1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay in Buck kicks off. Let's talk 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: migrant crisis NYC. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: A little bit of update for you on this one. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: There was a meeting with Alexandria Okazio or Okazio, Cortes, 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Jerry Nadler, a bunch of prominent Democrats outside of a 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: hotel in Manhattan that is now a relief center for 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: asylum seekers. And there were some folks who were present 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: who were not happy with the fact that New York 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: City is now America's largest refugee camp. And that is 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: a from a definition perspective and accurate statement they are 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: taking in asylum seekers or refugees. Also the numbers on this, Clay, 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. There was a city councilwoman, 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: I think it was a city council woman. Vernikov memory 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: serves that I saw share the asylum numbers for what 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: percentage recently eighty ninety percent of the people coming from 18 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: Central America other parts of Latin America, for example, don't 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: get asylum when they're actually up for because they're not 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: asylum seekers. 21 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: Right. 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: This is the whole point here is the system is 23 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: being scammed. Asylum is I can't be in my country 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: because I'm in physical danger or I'm being oppressed because 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: of my religion or something that is different than I 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: want to be in a country with a better economy, 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: in a massive welfare state. Here I am. That's called immigration. 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: That's not asylum seeking or refugee status. But they claim 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: to be refugees because they're scamming the whole system. Everybody 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: has to remember that. So they're running massive refugee camps 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: now in New York City. I've been to other refugee 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: camps elsewhere in the world, so I know something about 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: refugee camps. And here is what it sounded like outside 34 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: the hotel as these democrats are in there to make 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: this even more comfortable, more funding and better for the 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: illegal aliens who have gathered in New York City, play it. 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: The American dream. 38 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: Will not be bullied. 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Into submission today. 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: We will continue to fight for the American dream. 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: We will not be bully will We're not be pushing 42 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: to a corner. We will fight for these common sense solutions. 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Can I just be clear? 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: Apparently that was Representative Adriano espayat Did I get that right? 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: If I nailed that, when I'm proud of myself. First 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: time I've seen that name Democrat of New York who 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: is saying, Clay, the American dream now is you get 48 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: to enter illegally, you get to lie about the need 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: for you to stay, You get taxpayers to pay for 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: your food, housing, clothing, and all healthcare everything else, and 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: then you're supposed to be able to get work permits. 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: That's the American dream now, according to Democrats who are 53 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: speaking at this migrant center in Manhattan. 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 5: And what's important about this, Buck, is those are Democrat 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 5: voters screaming at by and large Democrat congressmen and women. 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: So Democrats. Now, there's a pretty consistent position on the 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 5: Republican side, right. It is, let's have border security. Let's 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 5: not have tens of thousands of illegal immigrants coming across 59 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 5: the border every couple of days. I saw Bill Malujin 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 5: just put out a tweet in the last twenty minutes, Buck, 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 5: the Biden administration. Things are so crowded now on the 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 5: border that the Biden administration is putting migrants on buses 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 5: and now dropping them off in San Diego. 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Did you see that? 65 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: I mean, maybe we can grab that audio, but they're 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: telling those illegal immigrants you're free to go, like you're 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 5: just go out and do whatever you want. I mean, 68 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 5: this is crazy. But Democrats don't have an answer for this. 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 5: They because they're finally fighting internally over this. 70 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: But they should based on what the Democrat party position 71 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: has been. This will be a shock. If you go back, 72 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: you could find editorials by the editorial board of the 73 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: New York Times as recently as let's say ninety eight, 74 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: maybe ninety nine. I mean, I'd go back. As you know, 75 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: I grew up in a New York Times, subscribing household clay, 76 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: so I used to read it all the time. Then 77 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: we switched to the Wall Street Journal years later. The 78 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: Times used to be a better paper in the nineties, 79 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: even if it was liberal. Now it's obviously just communist nonsense. 80 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: But they would back in the nineties write editorials about 81 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: illegal immigration and talk about how it was unfair to 82 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: other migrants, how it suppressed wages for the working class, 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: how it particularly created unfair competition for racial minorities already 84 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: in America, how it created They would actually make these 85 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: arguments from a Democrat perspective that it was suppressing wag 86 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: and that it was an unfair drain on the welfare state. 87 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: Now with for the last twenty years or so, it 88 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: has switched to illegal immigrant. This is a nation of 89 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are better than Americans in terms 90 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: of their work ethic, better than Americans in terms of 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: their law abiding nature. It's all propaganda. And what they're 92 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: finally forced to deal with is okay, So illegal migrants, 93 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: all they do is make everybody wealthier, better off. Say 94 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: for everything, that's great. New York should be saying, send 95 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: another one hundred thousand, Yeah, send another one hundred thousand. 96 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: We want more instead. The Mayor of New York City, 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: and now he's trying to walk it back, is saying 98 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: they are quote going to destroy this city, destroy it, 99 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: ruin it. Why are they ruining it? Everybody? The Democrat 100 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: Party told us for twenty years that illegal immigrants are 101 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: amazing and just make the country better in every respect. Clay, 102 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: there was no downside you were allowed to speak of 103 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: without being shouted down for being xenophobic em racist. And 104 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: that's what they tried to say about the idea of 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: the wall. And what I think you're seeing is the 106 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: number one issue that Biden is underwater on is the border, 107 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: and he's underwater on it because everybody agrees that it's 108 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: a disaster. And I thought you succinctly summed it up, 109 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: you know, last year when you said Joe Biden cares 110 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: way more about the sanctity of Ukraine's border than he 111 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: does the United States border. And I think that is 112 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: a pitch that works very well when you go out 113 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: and make an argument about what is going on there, 114 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: but when you're seeing now record because remember Title forty 115 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: two was ended, and it sound it felt like and 116 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: you see, if you agree with me on this buck 117 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: that there was almost a pause because people weren't sure 118 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: what the new policy was going to be south of 119 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: the border, and so there was a huge influx before 120 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: Title forty two expired. Then Title forty two expires and 121 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: things slow down a little bit because there was uncertainty 122 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: as to what the policies were going to be like. 123 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: And now it's basically a huge, wide open southern border 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: and everybody is rushing back. 125 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: The flood is the border again, that is all correct. 126 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: The flood is full on, back on, and you have 127 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: to remember the migrants that there are networks. They're speaking 128 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: to each other and word gets out through the smuggling 129 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: networks when is a good time to go? And so 130 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: if there was a pause at the border at the 131 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: end of Title forty two, it would have only just 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: been a you could call it a strategic pause to 133 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: see can we still get in easily? Are they still 134 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: doing the same stuff? 135 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: What's going on? 136 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: Title forty two wasn't blocking a lot of people who 137 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: are coming in illegally anyway. It just gave one tool 138 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: that could be used and was used, particularly earlier on 139 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: in the pandemic, more forcefully, to repatriate immediately people who 140 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: weren't in the country legally. But you know, you start 141 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: to realize the erosion of the rule of law that 142 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: this represents is not a minor thing, because if the 143 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: government can just decide that a person can be in 144 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: the country illegally and just because it is no longer illegal, 145 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: they don't pass a statue to this regard. They don't 146 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: they don't actually clarify this as a function of law. 147 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: They just choose that immigration law doesn't matter anymore. Clay, 148 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: why should tax law matter? 149 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 6: Like? 150 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: Why is hunter facing charges on possession of a gun? 151 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: I mean, what laws should we really enforce? Like, what 152 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: does it mean when our immigration system they keep saying 153 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: it is broken. That is a lie. The left, the 154 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: activists and the Kamis have broken it because what they've 155 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: done is morally blackmail the country effectively into refusing to 156 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: enforce immigration law. And by the way, a lot of 157 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: Republicans go along with this too. A lot of Chamber 158 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: of Commerce donor class Republican politicians and you know, all 159 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: throughout the spectrum are like, we need the cheap I 160 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 2: got into a huge fight with some very famous Republicans 161 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: at the table that I cannot name those off the record. 162 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Clay not long ago. It was actually on a on 163 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: a this is how I spend my This is before Carrie. 164 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: I was spending what's the fancy the Heart Holiday? 165 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: What is it called? Same? 166 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: Not Valentine the Heart Valentine's Day, said. 167 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 5: By like such a long term bachelor. There was a 168 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 5: stupid Heart holiday whatever it. 169 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: Is, the stupid cubd and the bows and the arrows. Yeah, 170 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: I can't. 171 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: I can't tell you over the years how many dates 172 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: I was like, didn't go. 173 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: I was like the Heart Holiday. 174 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 5: I was like, is there like a is there a 175 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: pediatric association hall, like, yeah, the Heart Holiday, Valentine's Day. 176 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: But I was at I was at a. 177 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: Dinner and and and one, and there were a couple 178 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: of people and it was off the records, I can't say, 179 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: but there's some very well known right wingers who were there. 180 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: And there was a donor class person, let's just say, 181 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: a very wealthy donor class person. And all this person 182 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: kept saying was we need more illegals because I need 183 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: to hire them for the businesses, big, big businesses. And 184 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: I kept saying, what about America? And you know what 185 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: the response kept being, They're too expensive. Yeah, well, folks, 186 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: guess what, there's a reason that they can get paid less. 187 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: And there are reasons that involve also all the social 188 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: services that are going to go to support the illegals, 189 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: as in what you see in New York City society. 190 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: It's socializing the costs of bringing these people in illegally 191 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: and then maximizing the profits for one small sector that 192 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: writes checks to the right politicians. This is what has 193 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 2: broken the system. Our immigration laws are actually rather straightforward 194 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: if you want to read them and look at what 195 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: they say. 196 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 5: Listen to this woman buck Cut twenty eight. She is, 197 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 5: we were just playing in New York City, the politicians 198 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 5: getting yelled down as they're trying to discuss this crisis 199 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 5: in New York City. Listen to this woman, who I 200 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 5: think is speaking for a huge majority of Americans. Listen 201 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 5: to cut twenty eight. 202 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 6: My message is closed the border that these people like, 203 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: how come they get to cut the lawn in front 204 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 6: of millions of people waiting. They're waiting to come to 205 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 6: America the right way, but they get like pushed in 206 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 6: front the migrants. So legal migrants, they get everything. They 207 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 6: put them first, put Americans last. We need to be 208 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 6: America first, not American's last. Do you think that AOC 209 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 6: was responsive to messages like this. No, she cut her 210 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 6: little parts conference early because she kept on talking the 211 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 6: same thing. Housing for migrants, work for migrants, But what 212 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 6: about our homeless veterans, what about our homeless Americans? She 213 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 6: puts them, puts the migrants first, us last. 214 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: Fuck. 215 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 5: That's a black woman in AOC's congressional district. Do you 216 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 5: know who she sounds like? Donald Trump? She sounds like 217 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: Donald Trump in twenty sixteen. And that's why I think 218 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 5: you are starting to see so many people in the 219 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 5: working class community who would have been traditionally Democrat voters 220 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 5: starting to repudiate and reject Democrat positions on immigration. I mean, 221 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 5: I thought, I mean again, that's a black woman, and 222 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 5: I believe in AOC's congressional district in New York City, 223 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 5: you just heard it that basically is Donald Trump immigration pol. 224 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they'll say that it's the Democrats 225 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: to shut people up and to keep people from learning 226 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: the truth about all the illegality around our immigration system. 227 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: What it means, what it does, How it overstretches border patrol, 228 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: How it makes the border completely wide open for the 229 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: fentanyl that is poisoning not just the one hundred thousand 230 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 2: plus who die of overdoses every year, but poisoning whole communities. 231 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: For every person who dies a fent thral, there's a 232 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: family that is forever shattered. For every person who dies 233 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: of fent thrill, there's somebody who's selling that drug that individual, 234 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: and it's facing decades in prison if they are caught 235 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: ruining that family. The poison that pours across the border 236 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: because of the illegality, it is hard to put into context. 237 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: It is hard to put into words and The only 238 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 2: reason this is able to continue is because the Democrats 239 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: lie to you about it. And when they say it's racist, 240 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: go walk around. You know, I'm here in Miami. Go 241 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: walk around. Ask a lot of Latinos in Miami what 242 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 2: do you think about illegal immigration? You don't you get 243 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: to hear from most of them. I came here legally. 244 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: Why should they come here illegally? I came here the 245 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: right way. I had to wait, my family had to wait. 246 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: I spent money on lawyers. They can just walk across 247 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: the border. That's not right. 248 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 249 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: Almost like again, people are being lied to on this 250 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: AOC and all the rest of them. They are lying 251 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: to you about the realities of immigration and the border 252 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: and what's really happening. If there is, by the way, 253 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: a giant neon sign for how I think assuming Trump. 254 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: People have been getting mad at me, by the way, 255 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: saying Trump is not the If I don't say Trump 256 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: is the nominee, people get mad at me. If I 257 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: say Trump is the nominee, people get mad. I'm just 258 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: I'm just saying he's way ahead right now, folks. He's 259 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: obviously not the nominee technically, but he's clearly way way ahead, 260 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: So we're just dealing with the realities we see it. 261 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: But Clay, immigration is the issue that Trump can win 262 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: this election on. I really believe that it's how he 263 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: won twenty six team. I think immigration in twenty twenty 264 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: four is, and his arguments for what he did on immigration, 265 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: I will say, actually, this is some of the stuff 266 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: he said the mag Kelly interviews. This is there's actually 267 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: a case to be made that the continuation of what 268 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 2: he was doing was all that's needed in order to 269 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: accomplish the goal. So I think that's a particularly powerful 270 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: place for him to go anyway that immigration gets me fired. 271 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 5: That was, by the way, Caitlin Sinclair's report from New 272 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 5: York City interviewing that woman, that's pretty fabulous, hurt. I 273 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: mean that clip that we played for you, I think 274 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 5: that's going to go viral, and I think it's going 275 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 5: to go viral because I think that woman is speaking 276 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 5: for a lot of people Democrats, Republicans all over the 277 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 5: country who were fed up with an open border. 278 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: The proper care and handling of a firearm includes keeping 279 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: your skills up to date when you can't get to 280 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: the range to practice. There's a really cool electronic training 281 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: tool you can use at home that I use the 282 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: Mantis X. 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As we 301 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 5: are reacting to the migrant crisis and everything that is 302 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 5: going going on there, there is now also a demand 303 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 5: all this is just body. 304 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: Blows landing on Joe Biden. 305 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: Even CNN's for Reid Zakaria says, hey, Democrats have to 306 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 5: admit they're just wrong on immigration. 307 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: It's cut twenty seven, twenty eight. 308 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 7: I do appreciate that the parties we're working round the clock, 309 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 7: and when I first called them at the very first 310 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 7: day of the negotiation, I said, please stay at the 311 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 7: table as long as you can to try. 312 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: So that's actually this is why I'm talking about the 313 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 5: uaw for Reed Zakaria on CNN has cut twenty eight, 314 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 5: and we're talking about how bad it's gotten. You heard 315 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: all of those Democrat congressmen and women getting shouted down 316 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 5: when CNN is on, and they're saying, yeah, Democrats just 317 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 5: have to announce they're wrong on immigration. I bet to 318 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 5: the see in an audience because they've been told that 319 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 5: it's racist to complain about immigration. 320 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 321 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, we'll get back to that clip later. 322 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 5: But it is instructive and interesting that we would be 323 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 5: in a position where even Democrats now are acknowledging that 324 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 5: everything is a disaster on their border policies and so. 325 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: Everything. 326 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 5: I mean that they're not even trying to defend against it, 327 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 5: and so this is I think just super messy in general. 328 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know what would you What can. 329 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 5: Biden do to not make this a total mess and 330 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 5: also simultaneously buck not turn it into a massive issue 331 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 5: for the left wing on his party. 332 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: He'll say what we need is comprehensive immigration reform and 333 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: border security. He will hide behind those two talking points, 334 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 2: and he will hope people don't realize comprehensive immigration reform 335 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: means amnesty. 336 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a mess, and I don't think it's 337 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 5: going to get better anytime soon. And I want to 338 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 5: tell you right now about our friends at GET refunds. 339 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of money to be had 340 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 5: if you have the right people advising you. Even CPAs 341 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 5: don't really understand how the Employee Retention Credit that's the 342 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 5: ERC works. 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Innovation refunds dot Com one eight four 353 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 5: three refunds. 354 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 2: We got our friends and Andy McCarthy with us now 355 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: he is Fox's contributor, writes at National Review, twenty plus 356 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: years as a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of 357 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: New York, Andy. Great to have you back. Let's just 358 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: have you jump right into it. The announcement yesterday of 359 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: the charges against Hunter Biden. How how much of a 360 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: surprise or how big of a deal is this in 361 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: this whole case in your mind? 362 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to say it's nothing burger. You know, 363 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: it's three felony gun charges. And even though I think 364 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: the Biden Justice Department did everything they could to sabotage 365 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 3: the case and make it disappear, they have brought these 366 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: charges and ultimately the sentencing will be up to the judge. 367 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: So you know, it's a it's a serious matter. Compared 368 00:19:54,920 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: to everything that's been uncovered in connection with the broader investigation, 369 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: I think it's a drop in the ocean. I also 370 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: don't think. I can't let it pass without saying that 371 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 3: the Justice Department in general, and Merrick Garland and David 372 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: Weiss in particular, did everything they could do to sabotage 373 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: the case, including the gun charges, which is which are 374 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: it's inexplicable. Well, inexplicable is the wrong word. It's entirely explicable. 375 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: But it was terribly wrong for them to do that. 376 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, if you think of what 377 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 3: a prosecutor is, you shake your head at this. If 378 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: you instead think, as I do, that Weiss's job was 379 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: to make the case disappear with respect to Joe Biden 380 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: more than anything else, then everything falls into place and 381 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: everything makes perfect sense. 382 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: Andy, you know, there's an effort underway. Clearly, this is 383 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: the New York Times hunter. Biden could face twenty five 384 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: years in prison and seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars 385 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: in fines. Here's a rundown of why the accusations against 386 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: the President's son and what makes the case unusual I'm 387 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 2: seeing two things happening. We're being told and you know, 388 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: as Andy knows better than anybody, any federal felony you 389 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: can get, you know, years and years in prison. That's 390 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: you know, if you're gonna take a plea, that doesn't 391 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: really happen. But that seems to me, Andy, they're trying 392 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: to make it seem like Hunter is being treated unfairly 393 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: in a negative light by the Justice Department. Here, what 394 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: do you make of that? 395 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is pretty hilarious. I mean, here's a guy 396 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 3: who for five years has gotten the benefit of selective 397 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 3: exercises of prosecutorial discretion. In that case that would have 398 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 3: taken ten minutes to present to the grand jury in 399 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: which he's like guilty eight ways to Sunday, and would 400 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: have been would have taken about a month to investigate. 401 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: They've never brought the case. And they not only never 402 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 3: brought the case, they never filed any charges that would 403 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 3: stop the statute of limitations. They never went to his 404 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 3: lawyers and said, well, will negotiate a plea with you, 405 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 3: but then you have to waive the statute of limitations, 406 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: which is what prosecutors ordinarily do when they're in PLAYE 407 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 3: negotiations with someone when the clock is running out. They 408 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: never did any of that stuff. This guy got the 409 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 3: complete benefit of all that. Then seven weeks ago they 410 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: bring him into court and they actually try to make 411 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: the gun case disappear under circumstances where he's not eligible 412 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 3: on the Justice Department rules for diversion on this case. 413 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: And I must say, Buck, I think like the interesting 414 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: question here to me has always been it seems to 415 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 3: me that there's two guns, not one. All of the 416 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 3: charges that we've seen that we saw yesterday, the three 417 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: charges are in connection with a cult revolver, a thirty 418 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: eight special, and we've all seen because you can't unsee them, 419 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: these images from the New York Post where he seems 420 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: to be in a session where he's cavorting with a prostitute, 421 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: and it seems to be a drug induced or infused session, 422 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: as it were. He's waving around a gun and that 423 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: gun is not a revolver. It looks like a clock. 424 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 3: And that according to the what's been reported about this 425 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: video imagery that happened on either October seventeenth or October 426 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: nineteenth of twenty eighteen, I think the nineteenth, So that's 427 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: within this eleven day period listed in the indictment, which 428 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: goes I think from what is it, October twelfth to 429 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 3: about the twenty third. So that's the second gun in 430 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: the mix here, and we've never heard a word about it. So, 431 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: you know, the thought that this guy is being treated 432 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: unfairly under these circumstances is just it bob the mind. 433 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 5: Andy, you talked about some of the IRS related issues. Okay, 434 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 5: so we've got the three felony charges brought on the 435 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: gun related issues, but you've been hammering this home about 436 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 5: the as it already happened with the fifteen and the 437 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: sixteen if I remember correctly, tax failure to pay taxes, 438 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 5: tax evasion. He totally is going to walk on that 439 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 5: because they allowed the statute of limitations to run out. 440 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: When are they going to bring these other charges at 441 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 5: least on seventeen and eighteen? 442 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: Andy? 443 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 5: And isn't that what everybody should be hammering now? Okay, great, 444 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 5: the gun charges have been brought, but the IRS charges 445 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 5: seem to be way more significant. You tell me if 446 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 5: you think I'm wrong on this, then the gun charges 447 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 5: in the first place, it seems like they're charging him 448 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 5: with the lighter of the offenses, and do we feel 449 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 5: like these irs felony charges are going to come, and 450 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 5: if they are, when do they need to come? 451 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 3: And maybe where Well, I think Clay it's it's I 452 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: think it's even worse than that, because I don't think 453 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: it's just tax charges. If the evidence that is being 454 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: uncovered by the by the Congressional Committee, and it wouldn't 455 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: shock me that Weiss didn't uncover any of this evidence 456 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: because I don't think they ever conducted an investigation here. 457 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: But if what the Congressional Committee's uncovering UH is going 458 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: to end up where I think it's leading, you could 459 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: have you could also have had money laundering charges and 460 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 3: FARA charges Foreign Agency Registration Act charges, as well as 461 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: bribery charges. And certainly if you look at what Muller 462 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: did with Manifort, you would think money laundering and FARAH 463 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: charges would be on the table. In addition to tax. 464 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 3: The statute of limitations is just five years on most 465 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: federal crimes. It's six years on the relevant tax evasion 466 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: crimes in this case, So already everything that is in 467 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: that is a normal federal Statute of limitations crime, a 468 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: five year crime. Everything twenty eighteen is gone. And with 469 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 3: respect to the tax stuff, everything before twenty seventeen is gone. 470 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 3: And I can't help but think that the reason that 471 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: wife handled the case the way he did was his 472 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: job was to make the case go away against Joe 473 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 3: Biden twenty fourteen and fifteen. It's actually twenty fourteen through 474 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, or the major years on Barisma, the China stuff, 475 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 3: which is two different schemes, go through about twenty thirteen 476 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: to twenty seventeen. Some of the other stuff that we've 477 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 3: been here, like the Yolina bat arena, the three and 478 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 3: a half million to Hunter that was twenty fourteen, all 479 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 3: this stuff is gone. You know, the Sky did nothing. 480 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't bring any charges. Usually, as a 481 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: federal prosecutor, if you're negotiating, if you're in plean negotiations 482 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: with the lawyers, you get them to weigh the statue 483 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: of the limitations, and if they won't do it, then 484 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: you get your you know, you get into the grand 485 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: jury and in diet so that you stop the clock. 486 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: But if you're trying to make the case go away, 487 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: then you do exactly what he's done. 488 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 5: Here, and not only that, And to your point, it's 489 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 5: awfully convenient that all the tax charges from when Joe 490 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: Biden was still in office are also the ones that 491 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 5: vanished right when he was still vice president, because then 492 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 5: you could go into whether his role and performance in 493 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 5: office was improperly influenced by Hunter, which is even more 494 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 5: significant obviously than the idea of him doing something out 495 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 5: of office. 496 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: Right, Clay, I think all you need to know about 497 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: that is that the nice people at Parisma, when Joe 498 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: was no longer vice president, they slash Hunter's salary in half. Yeah, total. 499 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how much more blunt it 500 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: could do than that. 501 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 2: Right, No, Nadie, what do you think of the chances 502 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: that Hunter actually sees the inside of a prison cell 503 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: at any point? Over this stuff? 504 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 3: Well? See, now this gets to this gets to the 505 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: human element. To me, fuck more than the than the 506 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: lawyer element. I have to say, if this was one 507 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: of my sons and I had the power to pardon, 508 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 3: there's no way you would ever put one of my 509 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 3: sons in prison, Not for me? Ye what happened? So uh, 510 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: And I don't you know, I say this with sympathy 511 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: for Biden as a human being, as somebody who's a 512 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: parent you know, I get that it would be a 513 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: terrible abuse of power, and the honorable thing to do 514 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: if you use your power to help your family out 515 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 3: in that way, and to help yourself, by the way, 516 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: would be to resign right after doing it. But I 517 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 3: can't imagine that. Biden, who you know, Look, I think 518 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: I've said this a million times. I think all the 519 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: people who say Biden's lost the stuff, Yeah, maybe he 520 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 3: lost the step, but he was always you know, he 521 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: was an imbecile for half a century quoto. Nobody who's 522 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: followed him like I followed him for all these years 523 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: could be surprised by some of the stuff that we've seen. 524 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: But at the same time, as a personal matter, you know, 525 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: he lost his other son, he lost his wife and 526 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: another child. He's had a very tragic life in a 527 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: lot of ways. I have a lot of sympathy for that. 528 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: I lost my dad when I was very young. It's 529 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 3: a traumatic thing that you never ever get over. And 530 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: if you you know, if the question with on that 531 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: kind of a record is you have your one remaining 532 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: son who is tragically a narcotics addict, who you know, 533 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: has been through very bad stuff and undoubtedly put his 534 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: family through very bad stuff. Are you going to let 535 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: him get sentenced to federal prison? I just I don't 536 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: see it. 537 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 5: Well, I think that would do Sorry sorry, but but 538 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 5: I think that's probably what you're building on too. Okay, 539 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: from a human perspective, I think we agree that he's 540 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: unlikely to let his son ever go into UH, into 541 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: a jail or into any sort of prison. What does 542 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 5: that do politically in your mind? Andy, If he were 543 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 5: to decide to do something that no one has ever 544 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: done with the pardon power in the history of the 545 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 5: United States, and that is pardon his own son, I. 546 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: Think it's gonna it's gonna make a fool out of 547 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: me play because I've been the one who's saying all 548 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: along that I don't think Trump can win. I just 549 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 3: don't think, like the math doesn't work. And I think 550 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: if Biden does something like we're talking about UH, all 551 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: bets are off. 552 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 5: It's so destructive politically to him that you think Trump 553 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 5: could win ahead to head battle with Biden. That's how 554 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 5: that's how destructive it could be. 555 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I don't want to suggest that 556 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's an isolation, right. The economy's 557 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: a mess. We could be heading into a recession, which 558 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: is a catastrophe for a president to try to run on. 559 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: His record's been awful. He's destroying the country. He's completely 560 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: decimating important institutions in the country. He's a very unpopular figure. 561 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: And if he given what his age is, you have 562 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 3: to take into account that if anything were to happen 563 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: to him, Kamala Harris becomes president. I mean, that's such 564 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 3: a toxic combination of things. If you throw on top 565 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 3: of it that he abuses his power. I assume if 566 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 3: he's going to cross the rubicon, he's not just going 567 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 3: to pardon Hunter. He's going to pardon you know, whoever 568 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: in his family is implicated in the influence peddling scheme. 569 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: It'd be very hard to survive all that politically. 570 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt. Have a good weekend. 571 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 5: Hey, I hope you enjoy my braves winning the sixth 572 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 5: straight NL East title. 573 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 3: Oh oh, you're killing me. I thought the week. 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Let's start here Ken in Northeast Ohio. 606 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 5: We're talking about illegal immigration and what a massive issue 607 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 5: it is for the Biden administration right now, as even 608 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 5: Democrat traditional voters are turning on their representatives. And you 609 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 5: heard us play video of AOC and others in New 610 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 5: York City being shouted down. 611 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: Ken, what you got for us? 612 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I'm calling from Southeast Michigan, Lavonia, Michigan. 613 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: To be exact, I. 614 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 5: Know where Lavonia is. That's a good place. My wife 615 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 5: is from is from Southeast Michigan. So we appreciate everybody 616 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 5: listening in. 617 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 3: That on my radio station. 618 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 5: Now, well, we're happy nine ten am, I think right. 619 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 5: We love all the people who are listening now in Detroit, 620 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,479 Speaker 5: we appreciate the new station. 621 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 8: Yes. No, the reason I'll Colin you brought up earlier 622 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 8: donald Trump and COVID, And now I did vote for 623 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 8: Donald Trump once, voted for him a second time, and 624 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 8: I will vote for him if he's on the ballot again. 625 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 8: Now regarding COVID, the one thing that all the doctors 626 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 8: that I deal with have told me from the very 627 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 8: beginning is we have to look at who controls the 628 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 8: World Health Organization, who controls the CDC, who controls those 629 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 8: medical agencies that receive government funding. And as I like 630 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 8: to describe them, as my doctors agreed with, I use 631 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 8: this symbolically the children of or in other words, comments, 632 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 8: And what that means is anything that they tell you. 633 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 8: And I follow this myself very religiously, very strictly. Same 634 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 8: thing the CDC tells you, do the opposite anything the 635 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 8: World Health Organization tells you. 636 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: It is thank you for the call. 637 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 5: By the way, isn't that amazing, Buck that we could 638 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 5: be in a position in a country where he could 639 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 5: say that, and I would say to myself, yeah, I 640 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 5: kind of agree with him. Whatever the CDC is saying. 641 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 5: You saw, we talked about it earlier this week the 642 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 5: CDC Health director. We had Alex Bearnson on. She wrote 643 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 5: a big piece in the New York Times saying everybody 644 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 5: six months and older needs to get the COVID shot. 645 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 5: And I would say, all of the data tells you 646 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 5: the exact opposite of that, especially if you're under sixty five. 647 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty sure. The CDC for a long 648 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: time used to tell people who, you know, if you 649 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 2: were sexually active as a you know, as a heterosexual 650 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: male or female in particular, they would say, you need 651 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 2: to have with part of your annual physical and HIV text. Yeah, 652 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: and this was part of them to bring this up 653 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: because of what Fauci Fauci and the whole the way 654 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: that he went and Barnson mentioned this yesterday. They completely 655 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: overestimated the risk of HIV transmission to a vast majority 656 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: of the population. And this was a largely political decision, 657 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: and they did this for a very long time. So 658 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: the people who like they were only maybe you know, 659 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: maybe they're engaged their college sweetheart, and they say, oh, 660 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: you're sexually acted, you should get an HIV test. Yeah, 661 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 2: that was common practice in the nineties. 662 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 5: Everybody I looked at this up buck because I was 663 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 5: blown away by it, the odds of a heterosexual man 664 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 5: right sleeping with a woman who had hiv or AIDS. 665 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 5: If you slept with a woman with hiv or AIDS, 666 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 5: one in four hundred chants of you getting hiv or agent. 667 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: So it's pretty crazy.