WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Getting to Know Joe 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:04.680 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:06.519 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.480 Cowboys. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:16.120 This He's Talking Cowboys training live from. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:17.920 Dallas Cowboys training camp in. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:27.800 Six past second past TISI touchdown and now your hosts 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:34.520 Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.480 Welcome to Talking Cowboys. We are live from training camp 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.120 in Oxnard, California. I am here with Patrick Noci Walker, 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:44.919 I'm here with Tommy rsh and we have a very 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:49.680 special guest one mister fourth and long Jesse Holly of 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.760 Dallas Cowboys, of Hanging with the Boys, Fain. Thank you, 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.560 thank you, thank you, thank you, the famous Man. Thank 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:57.880 you so much for joining us. Famous Man in that 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:03.000 you just attended the Netflix premiere of One America's team, 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.080 The Gambler. This cow was last night in Los Angeles, California. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.800 How was his experience? And also, welcome to the show Man. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.600 Thank you for having me. I appreciate you guys having 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.160 me on it. You know, it's always a pleasure to 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.800 be around be around greatness, So I appreciate that I'm able. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.720 I'm able to sit here with you. I want you 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:23.120 find gentlemen, This is greatness. Absolutely, man, absolutely greatness. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.959 Hangs together like about this though, it's no I no 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:32.840 c oh okay, yeah, Josh No, Jay worked that out. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:44.200 It's this is soft day. 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:45.600 Yeah. Man. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.200 I went to the premiere last night and got suit 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:51.240 it up. I did. I did. I brought out the 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:51.880 I brought out. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:53.440 The good sneakers with your suit. 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:53.720 Huh. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.560 No sneakers ever with the suit. I like it. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:58.960 A gentleman, A gentleman. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:00.480 What I think I saw you reeling? 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.600 Yeah? Never, I'm mother, I'm mother. I'm I'm of the age. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.360 We wear hard bottles with suits. 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.079 Balance both depends on the move. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:11.600 When I go. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.720 And I got on Tommy about this. I got I 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.079 got on Young Tommy about this. I got on Young 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.440 Tommy about this because Tommy decided to wear sneakers night 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:25.360 one of the NFL Draft. No, I'm not going. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:25.720 I'm not. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:30.000 No, I'm not going to a premiere on the red 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:35.200 slash blue carpet of this caliber in l A and 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.320 put on one of my good tailor suits. What a 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.040 pair of sneakers? No way, But if it matches the suit. 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.160 My shoes matched my suit. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.360 That's what I'm saying. If your shoes matched the suit. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:46.280 No. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.720 Stacey's or no, this was this was a pair of 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.320 Mark Jacobs. This is this was a pair of this 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:58.400 was a pair of Mark Jacobs. There's a pair of 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.639 Mark jacob what's the phill Mark. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:04.320 Wing tips? 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.080 So you know yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.520 had on the Olive Green custom. 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:13.000 You know there's some videos. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.680 Yea yeah, a p images, But man, what was a 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:19.600 fragrance of choice? 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.520 The fraguents of choice last night? Was? 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:23.600 Was? 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.480 What was the frequent It was? Because you know, I 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.520 have these little travel things. You should, guys, you should 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.200 get this. I know that everybody had, like the big 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.600 Colone bottles. You can't travel them, but if you go, 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.560 they have these small little ones where you pump it. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.119 You pumped the Colonne into it. And I think last 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:39.560 night was was yourself. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:46.800 Yeah home, we're just talking about that because yeah, Josh 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:47.520 got the bottle of that. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.880 Yeah you had the black top the black bottles. Oh yeah, 0:03:50.880 --> 0:04:01.000 we were good. Get started worry about yeah, all get along. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:07.040 The thing that I came away with, like literally was 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:12.760 my exact words to John Manchuda and Clarence Hill was damn, 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.880 he's done it again. And if you all remember, like 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:21.200 Snoop Dogg had something where he was like, this don't 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:24.240 miss And that's what I took away from that last 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.720 night and I and I said this on an earlier show. 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.720 If you know me, I am not a carrier of water. 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.320 I am not a company man. I say what I want, 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:36.520 how I want, when I want, and I did with 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:43.080 the consequences as they comet. It was incredible. This was incredible. Well, 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:47.599 like I'm telling you, this was the cinematography of this. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:51.880 We got a chance to watch a ten minutes of 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.760 the episode one and then the full episode three last night. 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:57.520 And when I tell. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:03.080 You the way that they construins this, and because this 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.520 episode three takes place in the nineteen ninety two NFC 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.640 Championship game against the forty nine ers, right now, if 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.120 you're a Cowboy fan, you know, you know, you know. 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.760 But it was something about the way that they that 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.919 you had features from Bill Romanowski, Steve Young, Jerry Rice, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.880 Charles Haley, Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith, Eddie Lobardo. 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:27.640 I mean, you had. 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.240 Heavyweight, and so you're having this two sided perspective of 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.680 how this game is being broken down. You're hearing what 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.840 Steve Young has to say, You hear what Michael Irvin 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.279 has to say. You're hearing, you know, the mix between 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.040 Charles Haley being a Niner being a Cowboy. You're hearing 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:45.520 Emmitt Smith, You're hearing Bill Romanowski, You're hearing Jerry Rice 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.919 and how much this rivalry kind of meant. And in 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:51.880 the nineties where the team of that era, you know, 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.040 coming out of the eighties into the nineties and the 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.680 Cowboys with this upstart team. And then while you're in 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:00.760 all of this and you're in this battle, right, it 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.400 cuts away and it goes back to the nineteen sixties 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.280 where Jerry were in Arkansas, right as a football player 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.320 and then as a then as as as you know, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.000 it tells he tells a story about, you know, borrowing 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:18.240 eight hundred thousand dollars to to to for a well 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.239 and and that well being worth a hundred million dollars. 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.840 And then it tells stories about, you know, he almost 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.560 got into bed with not figuratively but in the business 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.880 with a hafa, right, and how his dad talked him 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.279 off that, and how he was a shoe salesman and 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.400 on pizza shops and sold mobile homes and all that 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.440 kind of stuff, and how him and Jimmy Johnson, and 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.240 then it. 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:39.880 It cuts back right right, and it. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.920 Goes back into talking about you know, his his time 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:44.440 on his you know, with his dad and on the 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.719 ranch and stuff like that. The way that this was 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:51.320 done absolutely and again I knew the outcome of the game. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.719 I knew the I knew. It's still like, I like, 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.360 I'm sitting and I don't know if this was the 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.360 movie theater feel, but I. 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.479 Was on the edge of my I was on the 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:02.080 edge of my. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:04.280 Cinema. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:09.880 Yes, yes, to know the results, to know the people 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:15.320 that happened, to the intimate league. And still I'm like, wait, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:19.080 they break the huddle and Michael takes Alvin Harper's route, 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.920 and Harper takes Michael's route, and they hear Troy Aikman 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:23.880 break it down right like he talks about the play 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.480 that they ran and how they broke the huddle and 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.080 how Michael said it and all that kind of stuff 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.080 and how Troy like, I'm at the line of Scrimmens 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.120 and I'm looking and he's like he's looking across and 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.800 look at the defense and he's like this ain't going 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:38.120 to Michael. Like he's looking around, He's like this this 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.680 bang ain'ts gonna be open, right, And he's like, I know, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.720 I want to go to Michael, and he says, do 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.080 I trust Alvin Harper in this moment? This is from 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.480 the mouth of Troy Aikman. He said, do I trust 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.400 Alvin Harper in this moment? But he's like, Michael ain't 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:55.240 open and he throws it to Alvin. And let me 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:58.480 also say this, this is I ain't the only one 0:07:58.480 --> 0:07:59.800 that got ran down in San Francisco. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:08.000 Want to put. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:08.520 That harp like, put that okay, I just want to 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.680 put that. Shut it down. I just want to shut 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:15.280 it down. I ain't only ain't the only one. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.400 They got, you know, Paul sucked up and think for 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:23.480 both the socks. It's a hot day. I'm just saying, 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:24.760 shut out to Alvin. 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.720 Harper, what a hell of a play, dirty harp. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.720 I ain't the only one I felt, I said. I said, 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.720 I felt vindicated, Like I said, wait a. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.880 Second, the old people. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.760 I'm just saying it was. It was phenomenal. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.280 I mean, if you know anything about Jerry Jones and 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.720 you know how to throw a party in the Netflix people, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.599 how they did that last night, Chef Kiss. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.680 Is there another team in the NFL that could do 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.840 this to this level, to this level of cinema and 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.720 have this much drama and intrigue, you know, and maybe 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.040 the I'm biased and I'm. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.720 Saying sports period, sports period, sports period. 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.440 No in the NFL, no. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.719 Not of my not in my opinion, I think with 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.000 the with the right editors and producers, a team like 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:14.480 Green Bay could probably pull that. 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:16.760 I mean. 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:24.760 Football historian. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.400 I those are kind of split up because the man 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.800 in the Arena, Tom Brady's documentary that was really well 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.120 produced series and that kind of covered the same topics. 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.160 I don't think that as good as that documentary was, 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.280 I don't know that there's gonna be that same level of, 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:41.360 like like I said, intrigue and salacious information going on 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.440 behind the scenes, like it is just a drama filled. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.400 Which means we have to leave the NFL. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:51.360 So I go Yankees, Lakers, Lakers, I mean last day 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:52.280 in Chicago Bulls. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.920 And let me also let me also what we're doing, 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.000 what are you doing? 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.960 Let me also say this because I know I've seen 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.120 already on social media and it's it's comic culture. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:03.160 Me. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.360 It doesn't really make me any difference, but I want 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:12.520 people to understand that what happened last night. Yes, the 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.280 Jones family attended, Yes, the Jones family was a part 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:20.240 of it. This wasn't a Jerry Jones production. Okay, this 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.800 was a Netflix event. This isn't So don't don't people 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.880 come at you like, I don't care. He's focused on this. No, no, 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.960 it's not corporate focus. This is this. This was hence 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:37.000 why it was done here in California because Netflix and 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:38.880 I was talking to the people that were involved in 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.360 all of this last night and it was like, nah, 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:41.439 this is a Netflix thing. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.640 They want. Netflix wants to make sure that this is 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:44.280 getting seen. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.000 It's football fans are gonna watch it, right, like football 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.520 people will watch this. But Netflix is not in the 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.320 business of football fans. Netflix is in the business of people, 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.240 human being human beings. So you know, last night you 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.760 saw a lot of different like influencers and people of 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.400 that of that elk because it was like, yeah, we 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.439 get the cowboy fans are going to watch some of them, 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:05.360 some of you don't watch. 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:07.480 Makes me no difference. I don't give it down what 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:07.840 you watch. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.520 But the football fan will watch, the cowboy fan will watch. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.920 But is how do we bring in the other Netflix 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.120 audience instead are looking for a documentary, that are looking 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:18.160 for a season series, and so a lot of this, 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.520 all of this was set up and done by Netflix. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.440 This wasn't Jerry Jones saying I want to have this premiere. 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.520 This was a Netflix saying we have to sell a product, absolutely, 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.400 and so I just want to put that out there. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.839 I was talking to some people last last night about that. 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:34.920 Well, we're all really excited to see it. We're also 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.319 really excited to see the next Deep Blue, which premieres 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.960 this Thursday, called The Wall two point zero, produced by 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.319 Yours Truly. Please check that out on Dallas Cowboys dot M. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.800 And it's about Tyron Smith, Zach Martin, Travis Frederick. Their 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.600 line that very much highlights twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen and 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.880 just the incredible runs that those lines went on. But 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.199 moving off of that, we have a football game to 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.120 talk about. This is our first football game of the 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.480 season to talk about here and talking Cowboys, Dallas Cowboys, 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.720 I'll send rams preseason in Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.520 or I guess in Inglewood. Boys, what were your first 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:06.920 reactions coming out of the game. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.960 Well, in Inglewood, you're always up to no good, and 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.440 I think there was a lot of no good. 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:15.079 I like it. 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:16.839 That's my guy right there. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.360 I was wondering, who would do? 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:19.360 Is that bad? 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:20.440 I was wondering who. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.640 Was I thought it was a good segue, all right. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:27.040 I was wondering, Well, then I'll say, look, there was there. 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.320 You don't want it to put too much stock into 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.160 one preseason game, right, I think you have to kind 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.400 of balance out knowing the fact that these guys had 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.280 thirty seven guys sit out, twenty seven of which would 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.240 probably be starting caliber players or guys who are getting 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.720 reps with the ones when we get to September fourth. 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.400 But at the same time, you know, you look at 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.199 how this team played against the run, and I thought 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.360 when I watched the game back, I don't know if 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.400 you guys saw the same thing, but I thought the 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.840 defensive tackles, not that they had a great day. I 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.040 thought they did better than I initially thought. And I 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.559 think really the where I saw the defense struggle against 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:02.360 the run was the linebackers weren't filling their gaps correctly 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:03.600 sometimes and you. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.199 Know, especially that second half. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.880 Yeah, and you know, maybe they're they're just missing their 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.160 assignments here and there. But so the run defense, you know, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.640 one hundred and eighty one yards you just got. You 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:15.640 would hope that with a guy like Maddie Beruflues leading 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.160 this defense and one of his staples over the course 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.559 of his career being very good against the run, that 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.480 you see a little bit better of an effort there. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.920 But again, you look at this defensive line and these 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.800 defensive tackles specifically, they're young guys who haven't gotten a 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.680 lot of snaps, Jay Delia, Tamya King, Bisote, Ernest Brown, 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.840 guys who just haven't really played a lot of football, 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.240 and so you have to bring that all into account. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.280 And then offensively, we got the full Joe Milton experience 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:40.439 fellas the. 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.600 Roller coaster that it is is there's highs, there's lows. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.280 I think there were a lot more lows, and I 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.640 think that you know, you got to settle him in right, 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:49.800 you got you got to make sure that you make 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.760 the easy plays to start things off, and I think 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.320 six straight passing plays. You know, maybe maybe you do 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.360 the quick pass or the handoff here to just kind 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.160 of get him settled into the game. And you could 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.600 tell the nerves were kind of getting to them and 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.920 you see some of those balls sell, so overall, I 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:05.560 think a good learning experience for a lot of these 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:06.240 young players. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.079 For me, I stone on the defensive side of the 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.319 ball as well, And I've said this on camping out 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:15.080 on Sunday evening. For me, it's about analyzing it with 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.080 the correct context. Okay, So my level of concern, like 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.720 with the run defense right now, is not at the 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.480 moment with the OSAs and the Solomon Thomases of the world, 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.520 because we haven't seen them yet. We'll see them week 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:27.760 one and then we'll assess that from there. My problem is, 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.520 I'm still concerned about this depth. Right injuries happened. The 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.200 Cowboys were ravaged by injuries last season, and we saw 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.400 that the depth could not step up and hold for it. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.200 Right when you look at the run. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.320 Defense issues against the Rams, Blake Horn was having basically, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.640 you know, a day against them, which then allows steps 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:46.560 and Bennett to have a day both on the ground 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.680 and in the air. And then the coverage and the 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.600 secondary I'll say it again, the cornerbacks group has been 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.640 the most concerning portion coming into training camp and throughout 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:58.280 training camp. 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:00.400 A large part of that is due to injury. Talking 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:01.320 about Trevon Diggs. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.200 You don't know what Savone Reveel is gonna be quite 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.280 yet when he comes back from NFI. Don't have Josh Butler. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.880 Kaylyn Carson has battled injury already in camp. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:10.280 He came back. But we'll see. 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.880 You got Kyrier Elam, but I didn't get to see 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.400 Kyer Elam on Saturday. We'll see if we get to 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.960 see him against the Raiders. But the other guys Zion 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.160 Childress for the most part, notwithstanding and Israel mccwambo having 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.280 the highlight play of the game, arguably outside of those 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.840 a couple of spots, the coverage got exposed in a 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.760 lot of ways. The secondary got exposed in a lot 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.080 of ways. I have concerns there. I don't have a 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.320 concern about Marius Leafhile you mentioned how things kind of 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:37.560 opened up a little bit more in the defense in 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.400 the middle of that defense in the second half. Who 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.240 didn't play in the second half, Marist Maris got pulled 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.160 at halftime rightfully, so he was the bright spot. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.520 Perry and Winfrey had some moments, some positive moments. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.600 Ernest Brown had a positive moment here or there, but 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.880 I also saw him get kind of walked out, kind 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:54.040 of washed out a couple of times. 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.680 That's concerning for nose tackle. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.520 But then you flip to the offensive side of the ball, 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.880 and like Tommy said, you got the full Joe Milton experience. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.800 Unfortunately it was more bad than good. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.200 And what I respect about that young man is I 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.440 walked out of that stadium feeling. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:08.960 Like it was a D. 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.920 His grade was a D. So then to see him 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.600 grade himself as a D minus. Okay, now you're talking 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.960 about a man with accountability and you can begin building 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.840 from that. Yeah, absolutely, you can build from that, and 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.600 that's what I love about it. But did he struggle? 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.280 Absolutely he did. And I see what tom you're saying. 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.360 As far as you know, six straight pass plays, maybe 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.000 do some quick outlets, but if you go back and 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.440 look at it, some of those overthrows were to the flats, right. 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.000 He just simply couldn't settle down until the second quarter. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.760 And then when he did get the ball moving, self 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:38.640 inflicted wounds. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:39.400 They showed up again. 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:43.640 Jesse penalties, penalties, penalties, and then he got out of 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.920 sorts again in the third quarter. I mean, we're talking 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.560 about a breakout game from Ryan Flinoyd. If Milton can 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.400 just find the touch on some of those passes. So 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.200 shouts out to him for battling through it. Shouts out 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:58.320 to Will Grier for taking advantage of limited reps, Malik 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.600 Davis for taking advantage of limited reps. There are some 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:02.480 positive to take away from the rams, but there's a 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.320 lot of concerns also for me. 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.240 I you know, and and both of you guys had 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.760 fantastic points. I was on the sideline, like I looked 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.159 at the sideline. I wanted to see all right, all right, 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.960 Brian Schottenheimer, Okay, this is your debut, so to speak, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.880 of being a head coach of this football team. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:21.440 I don't think you shined. 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.320 I don't think Brian Schottenheimer signed because even coming into 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.679 that game, if your game plan was and and and 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.520 I've said this multiple times, when I look at a man, 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.680 I look at his words and his actions. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.680 Do they match? Do they match? 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.560 And you've been telling us at every moment when you 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.400 set up these podiums that this football team is going 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.280 to be a physical, running football team. Then you get 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.040 into the first opportunity. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:48.640 Well, I'll take it back. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.680 I thought you showed your hand a little bit of 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.679 a little bit in in the uh. In the scout, 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:55.560 in the in the in the practice, when you go, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.840 I got mad, I got pissed off, so I threw 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.080 a bomb. Whoa hold on? 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:00.439 Now? 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.679 Coach out of two reflects leadership here. I need you 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.800 to be calm, composed and collected at all times, right 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.439 like I can't have you getting upset in and being 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:10.320 all of a sudden. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.919 Like ah, reacting emotionally. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.239 Throw it now, I get it now. When you when 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.159 you sit back and you if there's one thing I 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:19.280 know that Brian Shimer can lay his head down at 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:23.840 night and know if push comes to shove when it's 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.080 time to go. I got four, I got eighty eight, 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:31.000 I got three in eighty seven, and there you go. 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:35.480 I don't give a damn because you got Jimmy's and Joe's. 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:37.480 That's gonna beat any Jimmy and Joe and any. 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:37.919 We've seen it. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.639 We've seen it either we've seen it and you can 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:42.840 sprinkle them in there. But I'm talking about full shot. 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:48.359 None is here and there eighty eight, three, four and 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:53.080 eighty seven book it right, And so I look at 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:54.840 when you know he came into this game and he 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.680 opened up the press coup and is his media portion 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.200 of the game. In the pregame, it said, ever we 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.679