1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Hey, what up? Welcome and I'm Doug Godlie. This is 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: all ball. Um. We have a special podcast for you. 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a couplemans, a couple of thoughts 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: on k D and Kyrie. Looks like they're staying with 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: the nets for now. Um. Also, I did promise you 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: and I will deliver on more discussion over FIBA basketball. 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot I want to get to. I'm gonna 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: get a chance to coach and the Pangos All American 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: Game or tournament whatever it is this week, so I'll 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: give you some feedback on uh, some of the elite 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: high school kids that will be coming to McBride High 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: School in southern California. But this pod, you know, look 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: I get you know, and we talk hoope on it 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: and we tell stories. Um, Jason Randy Sklar are really 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: really freaking funny. They just are. And they have this 16 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: amazing ability to finish each other's sentences. And you know, look, 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: you're always amazed and impressed by people's comedic timing, but 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: to have identical twin brothers have that same timing nearly 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: every single time, uh they step in front of a 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: microphone is remarkable. Additionally, they're like delightful people. You know, 21 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: there is nothing and they've done They have a new 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: show called Nosebleeds and that that we'll talk about on 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: on YouTube on the UFC YouTube channel. But you know, 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: they've done cheap seats. They've done which is Mystery Science 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Theater three thousand, like making fun of things, but they 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: do it in a way in which it just doesn't 27 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel at all like it's mean spirited. 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: It's kind of kind of special in this day and 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: age to be really really funny and yet to not 30 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: offend anybody. How is that possible? So we'll talk some 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: comedy with them. We'll talk about how they how they've grown, uh, 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: the shows in which they developed who they are, and 33 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, do they live together at this moment? Like 34 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: this is any The Squaw brothers are, Um, I've I've 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: done so much sports radio with them that I've never 36 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: really caught up and heard and talked to them about 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: their story. I thought you'd enjoy it. Let's talk some KD. 38 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: So the Nets and k D jointly come out and say, Hey, 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere. I love this. I love this. 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: I I this used to exist in college sports that 41 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: used to exist in pro sports where college sports, that 42 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: guy had to get his release, you know, to transfer. 43 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go into Maxae. My coach and the coach 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: sometimes we were like, Nah, you're gonna play next year. 45 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: You're all good. I'm not giving you your release. Now 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: there's so much public pressure that everybody gets their release. 47 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: You don't even think you need a release. You just 48 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: put yourself, you get in the portal, and once you're 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: in the portal, b by um. I do think that 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: that's another thing that's missing from how these things go, 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: that you should have to at least have a conversation 52 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: with your coach and ask for your release or asked 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: to be placed in the portal. Most kids do handle 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: it the right way, but some don't. And it's just 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: like what are we? What are we? What are we 56 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: training anybody for if that's the way we roll. But 57 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: the nets have said like, yeah, we heard that you 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: want to release and we're not giving it to you. 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: We hear that you want to be traded. We're not 60 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: giving it to you. And I think that's awesome, and 61 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm my awesome. I mean it speaks to what is 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: the value of having a contract if you're not making 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: somebody fulfill that contract. You can do the same thing 64 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: with Kyrie Irving because I think the argument that k 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: D would make, and the argument that people down on 66 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: the nets would make is it hasn't worked, but we're 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: not being No one's really being honest about it. It 68 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: did not work last year. But you also didn't have 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons because of the Ben Simmons trade or getting 70 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: rid of James Harden. You had, you had pieces that 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: didn't fit. I love Patty Mills, I love Seth Curry. 72 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: You can't have Patty Merrill's and Seth Curry on the 73 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: court at the same time. It's hard to have one 74 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: of them on the court defensively because they're so little. 75 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: But you know, and or you can't have one of 76 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: those guys and Kyrie Irving sometimes because now you've got 77 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: two guys that are little and that gets exposed and 78 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: Kyrie is just not a very good defender, and you 79 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: didn't have great rim protection. You didn't have anybody, you know. 80 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: And then at some point k D because Kyrie was 81 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: so tired it felt like from Ramadan, and you know, 82 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: you're just physically exhausted because you're fasting. There's no water 83 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: by the way all day when you're celebrating Ramadan or 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: observing Ramadan. Anyway, the point is it was like one 85 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: on five was it was hard to watch. But if 86 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: the argument is it doesn't work, go back and look 87 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: at year before. They were laying it to the bucks 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: and then Kyrie got hurt. Right, Harden was not the same, 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: He wasn't right with the with the pool hamstring. Kyrie 90 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: gets hurt, they fall apart. They still lose in a 91 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: game seven. If not for Kevin Durant stepping on the line, 92 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: there might be a whole different narrative today. But the 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: idea that that it hasn't worked is both accurate and 94 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: inaccurate at the same time. It's accurate because it hasn't worked. 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: It's inaccurate because we have never seen the Big three, 96 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: either Hardened or Simmons, all play together, all at full strength, 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: all in the playoffs, and look asking me a hard 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: locker room to walk back in when Kad made it 99 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: obvious he didn't want to play for Steve Nash anymore. 100 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: But you don't have to love your coach. And I 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: respect Joe Si for saying this is my team. This 102 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: is how I want to proceed. Does it mean it's forever? 103 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: It doesn't. You know, there are couples that go to 104 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: they think they're gonna get a divorce. They go through 105 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: a couple's counseling. You know, one moves out of the 106 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: house and then maybe six months, maybe a year later, 107 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: guy moves back in. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it 108 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: does not. But the point is that the nets are 109 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: sitting there and this is I don't think it's like 110 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: a Kobe Bryant m But remember, Kobe want to be traded. 111 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: Kobe want to be traded. He went on radio and 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: talked about he was almost traded to the Bulls and 113 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: then it didn't happen. The Bulls didn't want to through 114 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: in lu all day. Remember then, So look for for 115 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant like, yeah, well I want to go to 116 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics. We don't wanta trade to the Celtics. 117 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: We don't want to make another bad trade to the 118 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Celtics because you're unhappy when you've got four more years 119 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: in your contract. No thanks. And then the idea is, okay, 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: why would we make Boston a better place than this? 121 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: When we feel like we were at full strength, we 122 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: can beat Boston. Is that accurate? I don't know. I don't. 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Boston is a perfect team, and I'm 124 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: interested to see what the nets look like. But the 125 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: idea that it doesn't work, I believe is a misconception 126 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: because it hasn't actually had the time with all of 127 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: them healthy in order to work. That makes sense, I 128 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: think it does. All right, Let's get to brothers. Scolard 129 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: Sclard brothers are two terrific comedians and um, they've been 130 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: touring for years, They've been writing for years, They've been 131 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: performing on TV shows and YouTube for years as well. 132 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: Here's their story. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 133 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 134 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio dot com and within the I 135 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. Well, 136 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I've known them for your known them 137 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: for years, but haven't known them. Okay, their brothers school 138 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: are and so you guys have like you guys. You 139 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: guys have like your niche and now it's now it's 140 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: doing UFC fights as well like for YouTube. So are 141 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: you know? I mean, the biggest show that we ever 142 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: did was on ESPN, probably back at the time when 143 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: you were there, or maybe you were still in college 144 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: playing ball, but like we were, I don't think so. 145 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: We were. So we did es on ESPN Classes, We 146 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: did Cheap Seats, which was basically street Science Theater with 147 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: the old weird footage from the U from the ESPN archives, 148 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: dog shows, cheerleading, Beard and Mustache Championships, Scrabble championships, spelling bees, 149 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: and we would just do the running commentary making jokes 150 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: and then pop out and do sketches with all of 151 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: our favorite comedy people, which you look back on who 152 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: was in it, Nick Kroll, Paul Rudd, David Cross, I mean, 153 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: Kristin Shaw, like incredible. Yeah, So like they all did 154 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: sketches in the show, and it was just it was 155 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: the show that you know. They ran it from two 156 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: thousand two to two thousand uh ten, basically like on 157 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: NonStop on Classic and you know, we talked to like 158 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: who do we talk to? Jay? Who we're talking to 159 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Dempster, We're talking to cubs who played on like 160 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: the you know, the Carrie would you know Mark prior teams, 161 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: and they're like, we all the only thing we had 162 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: on the t VO. That's how long ago was we're 163 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: episodes of your show in the clubhouse. We just watched 164 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: them over and over, which as Cardinals fans, you know, 165 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: you you kind of want to hate the Cubs. What 166 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I'll of them that they did that 167 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: to us. So that show people were like, bring it back, 168 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: bring it back, and we never really had the opportunity 169 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: until now, when I don't know if you ever met 170 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: Crowley Sullivan. He was at ESPN years ago. Great dude 171 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: at ESPN Classic. He bounced around and then went to 172 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: UFC Fight Pass, which is their librarian, said I want 173 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: to do cheap seats again here. So we're like, okay, 174 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. You can't call it cheap seats. 175 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: Let's call it the nosebleeds because same concept, but it's fighting, right, 176 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: makes sense, making like I like, I like the double 177 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: entangre nosebleed, but I thought I thought seats immediately. I 178 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: didn't even think yeah the yeah. So it's like, you 179 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: know again, it's our perspective from far away, and the 180 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: truth is the nosebeds is great because we come at 181 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: it from like we're not Joe Rogan, we're not Michael Bisping. 182 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: We don't know every intricacy of you know, the sport. 183 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: We love it. I think it's fascinating if you watch 184 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: the card this past weekend. The fact that like Leon 185 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: Edwards can with a kick at the end of a 186 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: five round match beat the pound for pound best fighter 187 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: and you FC means anything can happen. There's so much 188 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: about the UFC that we actually really love. But we 189 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: know the minutia of college basketball and baseball and you know, 190 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: college football and whatnot, so which so we're learning a 191 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: lot more about it. But that's not the reason we're 192 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: doing this show. We're doing it because it's comedy. And 193 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: you look back at the early days of UFC when 194 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: they had Brian Kilmeade from Fox and Friends as the 195 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: ringside announcer and Jim Brown, Jim Brown the Great No 196 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: I s so Jim Brown was so. Our joke was 197 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: in the first episode, which is available on on UFC's YouTube, 198 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: We're like, Jim Brown, what was O. J. Simpson booked? 199 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it was the mid nineties. He was probably 200 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: in the process of being booked as we speak. And 201 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: that's it. You know, like you've got people who don't 202 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: know what they're doing, You've got no weight classes. You've 203 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: got people who are saying, he's got to climb over 204 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: the ropes. Meanwhile, it's a cage. No one really knows 205 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: what's going on, and they're figuring it out as they go. 206 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: And UFC has come so far to be at the 207 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: point now where they are a ligitimate, like top level 208 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: sport in the world. So now they can look back 209 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: at the nineties. It's like Gottlieb, look back at your 210 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: old yearbook photos from high school and I bet you 211 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: could do an hour on each one. Same with us. Yeah, yeah, um, 212 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: you know John Boys kind of taking what you've guys 213 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: done and kind of tweaked it right with baseball only 214 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: and gotten the replace. But but has anybody else tried to, 215 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: like outright just blatantly copy. So they tried to do 216 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: it on ESPN Plus with a show called Roll the Tape, 217 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think it was that successful. They just 218 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: used people there, and I think, you know, it's it's 219 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: a hard thing to do. We put a lot into 220 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, we had a writing staff and we poured 221 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: over the jokes and we would put them in there 222 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: and be like, wait, this is too many jokes. We 223 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: got to pull back on a few of these, and 224 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: we can't say this one because down the road we 225 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: have this one here and it's too similar. Like there's 226 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: an art and a science to making it look like 227 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: we're just hanging out and doing it, which is the 228 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: real rick. And so you know, and and years of 229 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: comedy experience leads you to that point. And I'm not 230 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: sure if they really fully understood that on ESPN when 231 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: they went forward with this other show. So I think 232 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: it's really hard to do and that's a good thing. 233 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, I think we're unique in 234 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: the fact that we can do that. There are very 235 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: few people who do sports and comedy the way we 236 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: do it. Jason, You guys are up where we grew 237 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: up in St. Louis, Missouri, so huge Cardinals fans football 238 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: and baseball. So we're in Crief Corps, which is like 239 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: West County Parkway North High School. You know, we grew 240 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: up right across the freeway from Dismet. Dismet put a 241 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: lot of good basketball players out there. Steve Stepanovitch, great 242 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: Missouri Basmall players six eleven played in the league. I 243 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: think he played for Indiana, played for the Indiana Pacers. 244 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: Is that correct, Stepo Uh. Great player uh. And he 245 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, he played right across the highway from where 246 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: we grew up, which so so was was was common 247 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: like always your guys things, you guys when you're like 248 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: little kids and you have the VHS cam quarter you 249 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: guys cracking jokes and doing skits that we were. You know, 250 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: I think we we got way into comedy in middle school. 251 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: I have a thirteen year old son now, and like 252 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: when we were his age, we got way into stand 253 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: up comedy. And we were one of the first people 254 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: who had cable and still like you know, we would 255 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: watch all these Rodney Dangerfield young comedians Specialist Seinfeld and 256 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: sagg It and Sam Kinison and they're all in Dice 257 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: and they would only do like five six minutes Domrera, 258 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: and we would memorize all their acts because we love them, 259 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: and we would regurgitate them to our parents friends when 260 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: they'd come over to play bridge, so they'd be like, so, 261 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: what's going on with you guys, And we're like, what's 262 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: going on with us? What's going on with the shower radio? 263 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a dynamite item. You got music dancing 264 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: next on a slick surface. Next to a glass door. 265 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: What's up with that? And our parents friends were like laughing, 266 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: of course, because that's a great joke by Jerry sign Held, 267 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: and we just got this bug in us were like, man, 268 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: we love doing comedy. And we also at the same 269 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: time played sports. We played travel baseball, We played soccer. 270 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: Sat Louis is a big soccer town, paid indoor soccer, 271 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: outdoor soccer, and so our combination of sports and comedy 272 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: was always like this constant in our lives as we 273 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: were growing up. We never thought we'd be able to 274 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: do it together though in a career or for a career, 275 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: because I don't know about you, Doug, but like we 276 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: we had nobody in our family being like we didn't 277 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: didn't have like an uncle Jeff who was a stand 278 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: up comedian in l A who could like tell us 279 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: these are the things you need to do in order 280 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: to make it. We had to like blaze our own trail. Plus, 281 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: there were no twins doing it that on the level 282 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: that we could look at and be like, oh, we 283 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: want to be like them, you know, like you look 284 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: even the Smothers brothers and you're like, those guys are awesome. 285 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: And they had an unbelievable run of a show on 286 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: CBS back in the early seventies, late sixties. But you know, 287 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: they they played these two characters. One was the dumb 288 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: one and on the other one was kind of smart. 289 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: I wanted they give each other grief, and you're like, well, 290 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: they already did that. We need to figure out something else. 291 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: So it was a very you know, we had to 292 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: sort of chopped down a lot of stuff. I want 293 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: to get to the development of the act. Let's talk 294 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: about the ninth Daniel Roddey Dangerville Comedy Special, because that 295 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: is that is I was like VHS gold in my 296 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: house and underrated, underrated Bob Nelson hilarious, who did the 297 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: college football college football introductions. Yeah, it's almost like a 298 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: University of Texas right guard and he did Bruce Kaskasky 299 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: San Francisco University Titan all that stuff. Wide receiver could 300 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: never do that today, But I mean, could not do 301 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: it today. Knock off here enough, But they have captive 302 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: audience in Russia. They're not lying. What an incredible So okay, 303 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: So I want to get to the building of the act. 304 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: But it is crazy how comedies changed, right, Like, how 305 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: do we how do we navigate it today? How do 306 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: we navigate How do we navigate it and still be funny? 307 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: So you know, it's amazing. Is the comedy club as 308 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: we know it, Like we work every week at the 309 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Comedy Store in Los Angeles. Phenomenal comedy club in l A. 310 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: Probably the best one they There is an unwritten contract 311 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: that people sort of you you sign when you walk 312 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: through the door without actually signing on the dotted line 313 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: as an audience member and a comedian, which is, we're 314 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: gonna try some stuff up here on stage, and it's 315 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: not coming from a place of hate. It's just we're 316 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna push the envelope and you guys are gonna be 317 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: cool with it. And if you don't like it, or 318 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: for whatever reason you get up and leave, like there's 319 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: or you you tune it out. There's another joke in 320 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: another comedian come in your way. And so it's still 321 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: feels like in those areas, like as it gets tighter 322 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: and tighter on the outside in terms of what you 323 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: can say and whatnot, you get into the common club 324 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: and it's almost like a relief. It's almost like, you know, 325 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: when the tea kettle whistles, you say to yourself. Okay, 326 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: we're releasing the steam here a little bit, so I 327 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: think you can still do it. You have to be 328 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: smart about how you sort of attack things in stuff 329 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: that appears, like if we were to do a comedy special, 330 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: stand up special somewhere, like if it were to go 331 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: on Netflix or Peacock or wherever it goes you never know, Amazon, 332 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: you have to be smart about how you craft the 333 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: jokes that you do and stand behind them in a 334 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: certain way. And again we just say, don't come from 335 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: a place of hate. If you don't come from a 336 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: place of hate or anger, And as far as towards 337 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: groups of people, I think you can you can make jokes, 338 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: right ja. Yeah, And I think it's like it depends 339 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: also who you are, who you've established yourself to be. 340 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: So you've got guys like Bill Burr, who we love, 341 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: who we think is right now at the top of 342 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: his game. And that's a guy who makes his living 343 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: by being out on the edge and and saying things 344 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: that maybe aren't so popular, but then spending five minutes 345 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: backing it up and getting you to see his point 346 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: of view. And that's people know that's what he's gonna do. 347 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: Like when you go to a Bill Burr show, you 348 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: you you're expecting that when you turn it on a 349 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: Bill Burr special on Netflix, you know that's what you're getting. 350 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: I think when people step out of the character that 351 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: they've done and do things that are maybe a little 352 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: on the edge, then that's when people get into a 353 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: little bit of trouble. So, you know, whatever, Michael Richards 354 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: was doing it at the laugh Factory that wasn't necessarily 355 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: in his character, and he just went off and he 356 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: got filmed and that was a bad call. And I 357 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: think that's stuck on him for probably will forever. But 358 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: do you Then you have Chappelle, Yeah, oh uh me 359 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: Like Chappelle can Chappelle can't make fun of transgender people 360 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: l B t B A plus LGBT plus q q 361 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: Q yeah. Um. On the other hand, you have like 362 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: Joe Coy who's really hot, right, like yep, that Joy does. 363 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Joe does a bit where he talks about he he 364 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: knows what ethnicity of Asian or Island. You are right. 365 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. Maybe then 366 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: Chappelle couldn't do it. It's like the rules are very 367 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: very complex in terms of what we can and well, 368 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm not what we I'm not a comedian. What comedians 369 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: can and cannot what what topics they can even tack. 370 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: And it is one of those things where there are 371 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: there is no blanket rule. There just isn't. I mean, 372 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: I think I think if you're of a certain race, 373 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: then you can talk about that. Like we can't do 374 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: the material about race that Chappelle does, but Chappelle can 375 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: and he never gets heat for that. I think part 376 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: of the reason why he's gotten some heat recently for 377 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: doing trans materials because he's not trans and he doesn't 378 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: have that. He doesn't understand that particular struggle, so he's 379 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: just making observations about it. However, he does oftentimes relate 380 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: it back to race, and so you know, you can 381 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: argue that Chappelle has gotten a lot heat and been 382 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: quote unquote canceled, but he just played the Hollywood Bowl. 383 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't necessarily think that Chappelle is canceled, 384 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: and I don't think that he's taken a massive hit 385 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 1: because of the jokes that he's done. And I would say, 386 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: I would say that I can understand some of the 387 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: heat he got for you know the takes that he had. 388 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: I just get it. I mean, but by the same token, 389 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, he had to do and 390 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: did four separate specials on Netflix in the course of 391 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: like a couple of years. Like J and I know, 392 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: to to create an at we're we're at our hour 393 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: right now, our next special and sort of figuring out 394 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: where it's going to go. It takes us like two 395 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: and a half years to come up with an hour. 396 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Now we're a you know, a tea comedy team. There 397 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: aren't many comedy teams out there. The way we have 398 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: to do it is a little bit different. He's a 399 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: little more stream of conscious, but like it's I think, 400 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: you know, you get four hours of comedy. That's a 401 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: difficult thing to on earth and keep it on the 402 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: level of the entire So Ran what Randy is saying 403 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: with that, Doug is that you ant necessarily if you 404 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: have a thought and a and an idea that runs 405 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: through a larger bit. You can't just be throwing stuff 406 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: away and being like, I don't know if I should 407 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: touch that. That could be a third rail. I don't 408 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: know about that. So if you're if you're doing four 409 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: specials and your your mind is helping you write material 410 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: about a specific thing that you don't understand that's out 411 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: there in the world, and you are relating it back 412 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: to race and you are doing the things that you've 413 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: been doing with all kinds of bits. Then you're not 414 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: going to just throw it away and be like, I 415 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's a little touchy that area. Like 416 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: Chappelle has never done that, so he's like, why should 417 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: I do that right now? And I think, you know, 418 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting time for comedy because you know, 419 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: we say comedy is you're it's you should have both hands. 420 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: You shouldn't have a single hand tied behind your back 421 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: when you're going to do comedy, because we say that. 422 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: The analogy we make is like doing a set of 423 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: comedy is like climbing Mount Everest. All the conditions could 424 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: be perfect and you can still die. That's just what 425 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: it is. Like. You get on stage and you don't 426 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: know what you don't know what the audience is going 427 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: to be. You don't know what's going to trigger people 428 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: in a weird way. So you can't have people being like, 429 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: don't don't say this, and don't go here, and don't 430 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: do this. And don't do that. You just have to 431 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: be free to do what you believe is funny. And 432 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: I hope that the audience is there to laugh and 433 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: if they don't like something, that they'll just sit through 434 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: it and go to the next thing. You're act because 435 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: you're both funny. You're growing up. When was the first 436 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: time you guys said why don't we do this together? 437 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Why don't we do it together? So the first time 438 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: we stood on stage together and goofed around? I mean 439 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: we would goof around with our friends and be funny 440 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: amongst our friends, and like Jay said, we'd like spew 441 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: out Seinfeld's corgeous seven minute a bit, you know everything 442 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: he did, like, you know, his hilarious bit about his 443 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: mom's always like what do you think of this wall? 444 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: What do you think of that wall over there? This one? 445 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: And he was like to me, if it's forcing you 446 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: to use the door to get out of the room, 447 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: it's doing its job. I mean, that's just a brilliant concept. 448 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: But like as eleven year old twelve kids were like 449 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: saying that stuff around. When we were fourteen in high school, 450 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: there was like a talent show in front of three 451 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: people at our high school and we decided to do 452 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: stand up and we wrote a little bit of stuff. 453 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: But being fourteen year old kids, we borrowed other people's material, 454 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: which is patently wrong. You're not allowed to do that, 455 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: but we were kids and we didn't know, and we 456 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: got on stage and we got a great response even 457 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: with our own material. It was a mixture of like, 458 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: we did well with other people's material and we did well, 459 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: give me, give me, give me some your own material. 460 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: So our material we wrote there was I remember doing 461 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: a thing about a math club. There was a math 462 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: club at school that just didn't get much traction called 463 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: Mu Alpha Theta spells math in in Greek, and uh, 464 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: we were like, there just aren't because there weren't that 465 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: many people. There was a bit of a dud of 466 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: a club. And we were like, you need, we know 467 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: how to save your math club. You need better marketing. 468 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: You need to hire the guys that did the truck 469 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: and tractor pull commercials to do a commerce for your 470 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: math club. And so exactly, move Alpha Theta truck and 471 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: pro tractor pull. The truck and pro tractor poll is 472 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: a kind of a good joke, right, So you know, 473 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: we basically like we kind of did an entire commercial 474 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: like that, the one over to so and so. I mean, 475 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: we're doing all these math jokes in this sort of 476 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: announcer voice, and the crowd loved it. Was it perfect? No, 477 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: But that was probably our first crafted bit that still 478 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: reflects the style that we perform in today. We were 479 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: just drawn to these big performative bits that you know, 480 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: gave us a chance to bounce off of each other 481 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: without creating these false characters that we didn't like because 482 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: we figured, you know, we're a comedy team, but we're twins. 483 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: We aren't like, there isn't one of us who's like, 484 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: I'm so dumb and crazy and the other one has 485 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: to reel them back in. That's what the Smothers brothers did. 486 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: So we were like, we want to create this scenario 487 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: where we're on stage where it is like a tornado 488 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: of fun and ship. That's that's exactly what it is. 489 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: How did the thing that's amazing about you guys is 490 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: I think one of your voices work together? Thank you, 491 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: because there's similar bit different and so you know, like 492 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, and but it's more than anything, it's the 493 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: timing of how you guys one up each other or 494 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: back each other up or complete the joke. How does 495 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: how does that get? So? So J? We so J 496 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: and I just went on this like crazy hike with 497 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: a friend of us who turned fifty and he had 498 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: like a bunch of guys go on this hike in 499 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: around mont Blanc, which is in uh Switzerland and France. 500 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: We were in the Swiss Alps and the French Alps 501 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: and the Italian Alps doing this like crazy difficult hike 502 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: up and down, you know, ten and a half miles 503 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: a day. It was super cool and it was like 504 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: challenging and fun. And we're with our buddy Brad Meltzer, 505 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: who's the New York Times best selling author. He went 506 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: to college with us, and Jay, you can finish this 507 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: because you know, he was talking about this Ted talk 508 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: that this guy Simon Sinek dead years ago and and 509 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: he met him before the Ted Talk. But it was 510 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: really about trying to figure out what are you? What 511 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: is your message? What is your mission as a creator? 512 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: And this is something that exercise you could do Doug 513 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: for yourself. And the idea was like, look, it's like 514 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: a dartboard, right outer circle is what you do? You 515 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: know you can argue that you're you're a broadcaster, all right, Doug. 516 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: That's what you do. You're a player. You're a broadcaster. 517 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: You bring that knowledge to the table. How you do 518 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: it is the inner circle right inside of that So 519 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: you call upon all of your experiences in your life 520 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: as a player, all that stuff, and that's how you 521 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: do it. Inside that circle is the bull's eye, and 522 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: that's why you do what you do. And so he 523 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: got with Meltzer, this guy, and they met and they 524 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: went through a whole thing, and and he asked him 525 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: a ton of questions because he was trying to help 526 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Brad figure out what is his mission. And they talked 527 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: for hours and then he said, I think I know 528 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: what your mission. Mission is, your sort of mission statement 529 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: or I don't know what the exact term is, is 530 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: that you think dinary people can change the world. And 531 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Brad was like, holy crap, that's exactly what I think. 532 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: And that comes through all my work. So as Brad's 533 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: talking to me about this, I'm of course thinking like, 534 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: what is our mission and what and and have we 535 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: been working on this since the beginning And it's usually 536 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: it's usually already inside of the work that you do 537 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: so it's not like you have to go out and 538 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: figure out what it is you You're you're you're organically 539 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: creating it, right, So I think our original As I'm 540 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: talking to him, I'm like, I know what our mission 541 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: statement is. Our mission statement is simple. It is we 542 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: are better together then we are individually. We are better 543 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: together than we are individually, which is basically what you 544 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: were just saying. The thing that resonated with you is 545 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: how we do it together, and we show a togetherness 546 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: that whether people know it or not, they leave our 547 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: show and they're like, well, that was cool. There's a 548 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: sense of collaboration between these two people, especially I and I, 549 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: and I would argue, sorry, I ran to cut you 550 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: off that one of our early in LUNs is that 551 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: did this so well, which I'm sure you were influenced 552 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: by them as well, was the Beastie Boys. We would 553 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: watch the Beastie Boys and listen to the beast two Boys, 554 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: and we're like, number one, they're hilarious. Number two, how 555 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: much freaking fun are they having all the time. It 556 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: feels like you just want to be around them because 557 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: you're like, he says this, then he says this, Then 558 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 1: they all say this together and then he backs him 559 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: up and he hypes him and he does a little yeah, 560 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: and he does a little thing. And their timing is 561 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: beautiful and they work like this three headed organism. And 562 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: I think we saw the fun in that and we 563 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,239 Speaker 1: were like, we can do that. That's something we have 564 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: within us. And there's a little wish fulfillment. People are 565 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: sitting in the crowd going, I wish I had a 566 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: twin brother who was on my wavelength. You know, show 567 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: college you get so we you know, we weren't really 568 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: and we didn't say we have to go to college together, 569 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: just like we didn't say we have to get up 570 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: on stage when we were fourteen years old and do 571 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: it together. There was no discussion like hey, j do 572 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: you want to go out first and then I'll go 573 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: out second. There was none of that. It was like, hey, 574 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: we want to do comedy, let's just go. So when 575 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: we're thinking of colleges, we looked at Wisconsin, we looked 576 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: at pen and we looked at Michigan. We applied to 577 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: all three. Were like that pretty much covers it for 578 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: us Ivy League school to you know, satisfy our Jewish 579 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: parents from St. Louis Michigan because a it's a phenomenal 580 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: state institution, really good school, tremendous academics, great sports, which 581 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: was something that we loved, and we had become fans 582 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: of Michigan in the late eighties and the bow teams 583 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: and you know the Glenn Rice and you know Romeo 584 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Robinson basketball teams, like we became a fan of the 585 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: of the school in that way. And then Wisconsin because 586 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: we're like, look, if we can't get into Michigan and 587 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: we can't get independ Wisconsin is a phenomenal grade state 588 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: school too, and it would be fun to go there 589 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: as well. We knew some people who went there, so 590 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: we're like, that covers it for us. That's all. It's 591 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: my kids going through going to college right now. And 592 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: it's like she's gonna apply to twelve places. It was 593 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: three for us. That's the only thing we did together 594 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: was we applied to all three. And then we said, well, 595 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: we have different scores and we have some things that 596 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: are different. If you get into pen and you get 597 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: into Michigan, then we got a decision to make, like 598 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: who's gonna go. Are we gonna go together or not? 599 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: Let's decide late we luckily got into all three, which 600 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: is a humble brag of me saying that we got 601 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: into Pen and that's the that's the way I tell 602 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: you that we got into an Ivy League school. And uh. 603 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Then we both decided that Michigan would be a lot. 604 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: We visited Pen and we thought the kids were not 605 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: having fun. It was a good school, it's a cool school, 606 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: but we were just like, God, there's so much pressure 607 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: on these kids. They're not enjoying what they're doing. Then 608 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: we go to Michigan and we're like, this is the 609 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: most fun place ever. And the kids are so dynamics, 610 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: really cool, so like we're going there. We're we're going 611 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: there and we're gonna have a blast. And we did. 612 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: In addition to being around like really smart people who 613 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: are really dynamic from their high schools and they just 614 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: everybody seemed like they were doing really cool things, pushing 615 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: you to push yourself. And at at college, we started 616 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: to do stand up. At college at the at University 617 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: of Michigan, we started doing stand up there. Then later 618 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: into our years, we started doing it in ann Arbor 619 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: at the local comedy club. Then we would drive into 620 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: Detroit to Mark Ridley's Comedy Castle, and we'd do on 621 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: a Monday night, do like new talent in this and 622 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: even Detroit nights. And to relate that to an athlete, 623 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure there were times where when you were in 624 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: school where it was a Monday night or Tuesday night 625 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: and you're sitting taking three hundred free throws at like 626 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: ten at night, and you know, other people are out 627 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: at parties and you're like, why the funk am I 628 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: doing this? Like why seriously, why am I doing this? 629 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: I should be hanging with friends, and and we would 630 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: think that as we were driving into Detroit, especially if 631 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: our stand up wasn't that great, we were just like, 632 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: we have to get on stage. We have to get 633 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: on stage. This is where we figure out who we 634 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: are and what we're doing. And it was hard to 635 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: get on stage without great material because you never knew 636 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: how it was going to do. But we just were like, 637 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: we gotta do this. This is the sacrifice we make. 638 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: We we take ourselves off the shelf and we go 639 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: up there and we do this. How did you know 640 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: you made it? So we so we kind of hedged 641 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: our bet a little bit. We applied to law school. 642 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: Both of us got in too again sort of a 643 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: piece were you guys both applied to the same three schools, 644 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: you both got into all three schools. Then you both 645 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: applied to law school. Then you both get into law 646 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: Schoolho got the better else score by this, so JA 647 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: did better. JA did better. And then because I tried 648 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: this new method the second time, I took it where 649 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: I would basically circle all the answers in the workbook 650 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: and then at the very end, before time was up, 651 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: you know, right them in and color them in. The 652 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: problem was there were twenty four answers and I only 653 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: had twenty three bubbles colored in. On the eighth, I 654 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: accidentally skipped the eighth answer from the book, so everything 655 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: after that was the the wrong thing. And I just 656 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,239 Speaker 1: I tanked my second score and I had to use 657 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: my first score. Whatever point is, it didn't matter. We 658 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: both got in. Jay got into Emery in Atlanta, which 659 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: is the top twenty law school, and I got into 660 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: George Washington in in d C. And Jay got into 661 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: wash You as well, And it looked like, Okay, we're 662 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: going to go different places, but we said, no, we 663 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: have to try and do this thing that we've been 664 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: working on. We we have to because if we don't 665 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: give it a try, we'll never forgive ourselves for that. 666 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: We can always go back to law school always, let's 667 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: defer it for a year and whatnot. So we came 668 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: to New York and we gave ourselves like a little 669 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: bit of time to figure out. Of course, we needed 670 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: more time to figure things out than the time we 671 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: allotted ourselves after a year. When you guys get a studio, 672 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: do you guys get a one bedroom? There's three of 673 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: us living in a one bedroom apartment. We actually built 674 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: a wall and so there's two people share one bedroom. 675 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: It's we're living with a friend of ours who moved 676 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: who went to Cornell, and a childhood friend from Camp 677 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: who was also a comedy writer who's still rates well. 678 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: Camp Cama is a Jewish summer camp in Wisconsin. We 679 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: went to Okay, my kids have gone to four Stakers 680 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: and Indian Acres, which is it's in in Friburg, Maine. Right, gorgeous, 681 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean those are the camps. It was like this 682 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: camera camp had been around since that. We went to 683 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: so old school, beautiful on a lake. It was like perfect. 684 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: So so so if that went to Cornell, what's his name? 685 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: His name is Eric Friedman, and he's created like TV 686 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: shows for Nickelodeon and for UH, for Disney XD, and 687 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: he writes more kids stuff. But he's a writer. He 688 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: wrote on Cheap Seats. He's brilliant, really really funny dude. 689 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: He didn't know if you want to do stand up 690 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: or writing. Were like, let's all move to New York 691 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 1: and let's figure this out. And so we moved to 692 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: the city and about six months into the dark time there, 693 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: we realized that all of our materials sucked and it 694 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: was like college based stuff. And here we are in 695 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: New York City with Sarah Silverman and you know, Chappelle 696 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: and David Tell and Jeff Ross and all these like 697 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: Mark Mayren, all these top level comics, and we're like, 698 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: we don't freaking belong here. So we quit, which was 699 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: really hard for us. And then we took a sketch 700 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: writing class in in New York called at Chicago City Limits, 701 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: just to try try something different. Maybe we're gonna be 702 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: sketch writers. We don't know, And we started writing sketches 703 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: and performing these sketches and our teacher was this guy, 704 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: were like, this dude is freaking amazing. He's such a 705 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: good writer. Why isn't he working? Why is he just 706 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: teaching a class at Chicago City Limits. Two years later, 707 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: him and his brother became the head writers of Letterman, 708 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: Justin Stangel and Eric Stangle. So we were right on 709 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: about how smart and talented that guy was, and he 710 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: was actually telling us, you guys are very talented and 711 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: you guys should stick with this, and that gave us confidence. 712 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: And then this alternative comedy movement started started to like 713 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: expand in the Lower East Side of New York, and 714 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: we realized, Okay were alternative comedy, So I can I 715 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: can explain it in a yeah, I can explain in 716 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: a sports sense. So in the late eighties and early nineties, 717 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: like there was stand up comedy all over TV, like 718 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: A and E head comedy. You're like, the only reason 719 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 1: ay should ever have comedy is if like a comedian 720 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: gets murdered and they're doing a cold case file about 721 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: how that happened. Like there shouldn't be It was everywhere, 722 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: so everybody had these TV credits And then you go 723 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: to Des Moines, Iowa, and there'll be three comedy clubs. 724 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: You're like, why is there? Why are there three comedy clubs? 725 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: Into one eye. You can barely support one of them. Well, 726 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: if there are three clubs on that week and there 727 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: needs to be three headliners, so you had a lot 728 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: of people. It was we had thirty minutes who were 729 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: being asked to do forty five minutes of comedy, and 730 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: comedy suffered because a lot of people were just bad 731 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: facts similes of the people who were on TV. So 732 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: if you it's like if you added four baseball teams 733 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: to Major League Baseball, the overall general pool of baseball, 734 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: the players, the talent would go down because you're you 735 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: have to use guys who aren't ready, you know what 736 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean. And so that's exactly what happened, and so 737 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: people were really Comedy became a very basic thing where 738 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: you see a fat guy get up on stage and 739 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: I could do his act for He's gonna do forty 740 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: five minutes of fat jokes, some of them not even his, 741 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, what are we even doing here? 742 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Nothing was surprising, nothing was interesting, and that's what where 743 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: comedy gets you is when it's surprising. So this movement 744 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: kind of grew up on the coast in l A. 745 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: And in in New York and in San Francisco, where 746 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: people are like, we want to do comedy, that's surprising. 747 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: We want to do stuff that is anti what's happening 748 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: in the clubs right now. And it was really cool. 749 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: It was super cool that that sort of grew up 750 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: because for us, we didn't want to do comedy about 751 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: being twins. We didn't want to do forty five minutes 752 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: about he's this one and I'm this one. That's just 753 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: not what we wanted. We wanted to be funny the 754 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: way we were funny around our friends, which is a 755 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: much different way, in a much more organic way. And this, 756 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: this whole movement allowed us to do that. And from 757 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: that we wound up getting an MTV show in to 758 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: host this show called Apartment two f which had Zach 759 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: Alfin akiss on it, and it had Michael show Walter 760 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: on it, and it had Stephen Colbert in the first episode. Okay, 761 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: so so help me out here. Okay, so from ninety 762 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: four you move there. Yeah, how much was your rent? 763 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: Our rent back in the time and the day was 764 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: like fift hundred dollars, not less, just less than fourteen 765 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: seventy five for this one better apartment. So each of 766 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: us are playing like fo Bucks and how are you 767 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: guys paying day jobs? Day jobs? So Jason worked at 768 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: q two, which was QVC's younger, hipper like channel, and 769 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: we actually pitched them characters that we would play, like 770 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: these warehouse gates. How amazing would that show be if 771 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: you guys were doing QVC that would They totally missed it. 772 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: They missed the boat they I mean, I was in 773 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: the talent department. I'm like preparing all this stuff for 774 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: these hosts, and meanwhile, Rainy and I are like, we 775 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: could be so funny in this thing. And we pitched 776 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: characters and we did them a little bit on there 777 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: on the air. We just we kept grinding. I mean, 778 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: and that's I mean, you know this, you know this, 779 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: Like we we are like you. We have talent, I believe, 780 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: and we also have drive and grind. And it's like 781 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: that's the only way you're gonna We don't have enough 782 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: talent to not have the drive just to make it. 783 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: We need to have this oversized grind. And so we 784 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: would just push and we're like, hey, we're gonna make 785 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: our rent day jobs. We're gonna go out and perform 786 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: comedy every night. We started doing it. We get this 787 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: MTV show three years later by the time we were 788 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: twenty five, which is super rare. It was a great opportunity. 789 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: I think we were too young at the time and 790 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: we thought, you know, when it ended after a season, 791 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: we thought to ourselves, Okay, we're on the map. That 792 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: was really cool. I wish we had another opportunity to 793 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: do something like this. And then four years later Cheap 794 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: Seats comes along, or five years later, Cheap Seats comes along. 795 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: But but in that time we had done a number 796 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: of other projects, like we started to develop a show 797 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: in like Out in l A. So we were coming 798 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: out to l A with like NBC and HBO, Independent 799 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: Productions and Warner Brothers were developing this sitcom. Like many 800 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: things in l A and in Hollywood, you develop it 801 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: and then it never goes so you get paid to 802 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: do it and paid to develop it. So we were 803 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: getting paid money. But at the same time, it never 804 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 1: saw the light of day. And it was a great 805 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 1: project and we loved it, but it just never saw 806 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: the light of day. But that got us coming out 807 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: to l A. And we were thinking to ourselves, all right, 808 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: if we really want to do this, yes, you can 809 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: stay in New York. There's a handful of great late 810 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: night shows that you could try and write on or 811 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: be a part of. S and L being the top 812 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: tip top of that. But you know, you're thinking of 813 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, The Daily Show and a handful of others. 814 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: But we're like, we gotta move out to l A 815 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: if we're going to do this. So we really love 816 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: the scene because we'd come out for a week every 817 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: month and you know, right during the day and perform 818 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: out here at night in in l A. And we're like, 819 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: there's a cool scene out here too that kind of 820 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: mirrored the scene that was in New York. And we're like, 821 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: we got to move out here. So we did in 822 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: ninety nine and and and then ironically, three years later, 823 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: we get chief seats on ESPN Classic and we fly 824 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: back to New York one week out of every month 825 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: to shoot that show. Hilarious. Well, you guys been together 826 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: this whole time, living together, so we lived together until 827 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: so we lived together, we moved out to l A 828 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: with our buddy Eric Friedman again, he moved with us 829 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: out to l A and we lived That was the 830 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: other thing. So we were living in Chelsea. So we 831 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: moved from the one bedroom apartment to a three bedroom 832 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: apartment in nine and eight, and again rent was not 833 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: that bad when you consider it was like bucks a month, 834 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: so you're not even paying that much to live in 835 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: the city. In New York, it was just something you 836 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: couldn't do. But then we got a place out here, 837 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: a three bedroom, huge dupe like upstairs of a duplex, 838 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: and it was so much room and so much space. 839 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: You just felt like you could live more like a 840 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: human being out here in l A. The three of 841 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: us came out here and we lived together there. Then 842 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, I was dating my then girlfriend who is 843 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: now my wife, but she and I moved in together 844 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: in in two thousand and that was the last time 845 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: we lived. Jay and I lived together, And it's actually 846 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: I think it's allowed us to continue our career, the 847 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: fact that we have separate lives and wives and kids 848 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: and families. That you go into those environments and you're 849 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: no longer the scar brothers. You're just the dad who 850 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: screwed up the thing that your kid wanted you to do, 851 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: but you screwed it up. Jay, has there ever been 852 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: a talk of, Hey, I want to do my own thing. 853 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: You know, that's such a great question. I love that 854 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: question because, yeah, we have actually mulled that stuff over 855 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: and we have gone and done our own things within 856 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: other projects. And the truth is we feel like, if 857 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: I go back to even that mantra, we still feel 858 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: like we are better together than we are on our own, 859 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: and we have more to learn, more to do, and 860 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: we mind, you know, we'll we'll play this out as 861 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: long as it feels comfortable for us, and we're by 862 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: the way, we we are not beholden to any one thing, like, 863 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: if it starts to feel uncomfortable, we're happy to go 864 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: our separate ways. But we still love it. We still 865 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: love doing stuff together. But we have definitely had moments 866 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: where we're like, hey, do you think we would be 867 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: more successful if we just sort of branched out and 868 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: did our own thing. And I think the answer was 869 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: we should take advantage of every individual opportunity that comes up, 870 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: but we should still be the squad brothers. That's what 871 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: we've worked so hard to do and create, and that 872 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: is what I think is super unique. There's not that 873 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: you know, we do something that like to be a 874 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: headlining comedian, you're doing something already that like two people 875 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: in the world can do. That's it. So it's you're 876 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: already in a really small thing. Now we're part of 877 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: a comedy team, so me and without a guitar in 878 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: the act or music in the act. There are maybe 879 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: like four or five other comedy teams in the world 880 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: that are doing it on the level that we're doing it. 881 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: So you say to yourself, why would I remove that 882 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: unique thing that feels so special to us? Why would 883 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: I take that out of what we do? We just 884 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. Um coolest place you guys have ever played? 885 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: Cools venue or coolest? Yeah? Coolest venue? Um? Jay? What 886 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: what did we love more than anything? What was the 887 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: coolest venue we played? We we had a recent set 888 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: in the Man at the Montreal Comedy Festival up in 889 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: the Palace of Arts, up there in front of people, 890 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: and it was a TV set where we recorded for 891 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: television there CBC. It's gonna be played up there was 892 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: a gallup. Mark Marin hosted it and we did just 893 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: a short like eight eight minutes set and the theater 894 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: was gorgeous. It was like several tiers up and packed 895 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: so great. The energy was so great, and I thought 896 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: this was our best short set material for TV that 897 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: we've ever done. We were we were in it. We 898 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: were having fun, you know, and not to use the 899 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: sports analogy, but I know you appreciate this like the 900 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: game slowed down. Game slows down and you start to 901 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,479 Speaker 1: see you're in it and you love it. So Jane 902 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: I are having moments between each other that the audience 903 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,839 Speaker 1: can't even see, where we're ecstatic about how things are 904 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,919 Speaker 1: going and that they're receiving it the way we want 905 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: them to. And you know, you're always better when things 906 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: are going great. When the audience is giving it back 907 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: to you. Something happens in the chemistry of your brain 908 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: where synapses start to fire and you start thinking comedically 909 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: and you actually in the in those moments. In our career, 910 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: we've been able to create on the spot and create 911 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: comedy in those moments, and that rarely happens when you're 912 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: taping a TV show, because in the back of your 913 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: mind there's this thing like I only have one shot 914 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: at this. If anything goes weird, you know, we got 915 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: we gotta live with that. It's such an odd thing. 916 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 1: And so to have the freedom and feel that free, 917 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: I would say that was a great moment. I would 918 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: say Another moment we had in our career that was 919 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: fascinating and phenomenal was this is maybe almost twenty years ago. 920 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: Eighteen years ago. We were in l a at the 921 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: Palace which is now that's in front of like two 922 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: thousand people, and we opened for Tenacious D, which is 923 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 1: Jack Black and Kyle Gas and I mean, their fans 924 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: are so hardcore and they love those dudes and like 925 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: they're there to see them, and our attitude is can 926 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 1: we step on this stage and do what we do 927 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: and come with power and give them the setup that 928 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: they deserve. And I just remember doing that set, performing 929 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: and having a really good set and walking off stage 930 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: and high fiving Jack Black, JB given him some love 931 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: and him being like, thanks, boys, you set it up perfectly. 932 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 1: And that for me, like as a young comic, and 933 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: obviously we love them and we just love the work 934 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: they were doing. That felt really special because we didn't 935 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 1: know how it was going to go that night, and 936 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: that room was really special and big and packed with 937 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: great energy. And so we've had a few of those 938 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: types of shows in our career, which feel good, um 939 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: okay show. The show was called Nose Bleeds. Does Dana 940 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: say anything's off limits. No, yep, the nose bleeds no. No. 941 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: I mean, but again, almost like a good roast, you 942 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of have to be smart about it. You gotta 943 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: do it from a place of love because if it 944 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: looks like because Dana understands his audience and certainly the 945 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: audience that Fight Pass, where all these episodes are available 946 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 1: on UFC Fight Pass, which is like ESPN Classic, a 947 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: library for all the I mean, it's the largest combat 948 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: library in the world. It's fantastic. I mean, the stuff 949 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: they have on there is just brilliant. And again you 950 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: go back into the nineties and and check out these 951 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, the first ever, the first, the second, the 952 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: third Ufcason, but just like remember the same sort. But 953 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 1: I think right the current fight, it was like going 954 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: on that it deserves, and I think some die hard 955 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: UFC fans were like, that feels a little disrespectful. It 956 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: didn't feel like he gave it its due. So we're 957 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: always super careful about that. We're like, probably not good 958 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: for us to be commenting on what's happening in the 959 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 1: last like year or two, unless it's a crazy event 960 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: that is worth it. Like one of the episodes we 961 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: did was during COVID, they tried to put on fights 962 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: in Alaska for a f C Alaska Fighting Championship, and 963 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: those were like in someone's backyard near a church, and 964 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 1: they're like covering up the playground with like a tarp, 965 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: and it's like funny, and so that's where we can 966 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: go in and have fun. But I don't think people 967 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: want to hear us make comments and jokes about a 968 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 1: Covington fight, So like for us to go back, we 969 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 1: were kind of self editing and going to a place 970 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: where we know fight fans will think it's cool and 971 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 1: funny and interesting and nostalgic. What was the who was 972 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: the fighter the other night? He was licking the other guy, 973 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: licking the blood. He was rubbing his blood on his 974 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: face all over the face of the other dude. That 975 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: was insane. Oh my god, Luke Rock Hole, that was unbelievable. 976 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: So it was in that moment and Luke rock holds 977 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: like a fascinating dude. Who I watched this whole Michael Bisping, Uh, 978 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, a phenomenal Michael Bisping documentary. I watched it 979 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: on a plane as we were flying back from Europe recently, 980 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: and he like Luke rock Holds sort of life with 981 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: and and and career path of Michael Bisping, Like rock 982 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: Hold beats him in the first fight and it's like 983 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: there's no way, or actually I think I think he be. 984 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: They each beat each other and they were like knockdown, 985 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: drag out fights, and I'm like, I cant belie Luke 986 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: rock Hold. It's rock is still around. He is and 987 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: this was his last fight, and I think he in 988 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: those last moments he's like, I know I'm taking this 989 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: to the distance, and he was just like I'm gonna 990 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 1: do something crazy like again. That to me was fascinating 991 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: and crazy and hilarious. And he's like, you're gonna taste 992 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: my blood. I'm gonna roll it all of your faith 993 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: and there's nothing you can do about it because we're 994 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: clenched down low. It's kind of like a crazy, disrespectful 995 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: thing that is hilarious in our minds. What's amazing about 996 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: it is we're all kind of your guys are a 997 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: couple of years old than me. But I remember the 998 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: first time I saw blood Sport and and you're like, 999 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: there's no way that's real, right, kind it's kind of 1000 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: go and now like crazy, super popular, and now people 1001 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: go down to a bar and pay pay per view 1002 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: and it's on every weekend and it's you know, you 1003 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: have seen was sold for four billion dollars. Like it's 1004 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: crazy how in our lifetime this board has become not 1005 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: a legitimate but really mainstream. And so J and I. 1006 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: J and I were at the airport this past week 1007 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: and we did a show in Tulsa, Okay on Saturday night, 1008 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: and you know, we were on stage. It was better 1009 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: by the way you were J in the show. J, 1010 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: who was better? I think I think I. I think 1011 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: I was a little anyway, whatever, what's it agreed to disagree? 1012 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean I was carrying Jay for a while. You 1013 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: saw like one set of footprints and that was when 1014 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 1: I was carrying Jesus. So uh no, So the so 1015 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: we're so we're at the airport in the next morning, 1016 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about the fight, and this guy behind us 1017 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: at like security just starts talking like I didn't think 1018 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 1: this guy was a UFC fan at all, there's no wake. 1019 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,560 Speaker 1: He just starts talking about the Leon Edwards kicked to 1020 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: the face Tomorrow's mind. Like he just starts talking about it, 1021 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: and we're like, oh my God, this is like if 1022 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, if someone said, hey, did you see Pool's 1023 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: hit two home runs last night and he's now at 1024 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: six two and he's on his way to seven, would 1025 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: have that discussion. But like, remarkable that we're now having 1026 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: this discussion about this leg kick her around the web. 1027 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: I think it's because the UFC did something very smart 1028 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: and they seized on a moment and a vacuum that 1029 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: boxing created when boxing didn't make the Pacquiao Mayweather fight 1030 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: for five freaking years, UFC just slid right in. They 1031 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: were already on the rise, but they were like, look, 1032 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna make the fights you want to see every week. 1033 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,880 Speaker 1: Every month. There's gonna be a pay per view with 1034 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: a massive fight in it. We're going to create a 1035 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: lot of stars and a lot of people who want 1036 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: to see men women Women can headline our card and 1037 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,320 Speaker 1: that'll be a fascinating match. You want the coolest, coolest 1038 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: thing that it's brilliant. They did it, so we're and 1039 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: and here's the best thing. Because we talked about ESPN 1040 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: doing a version of Cheap Seats without us in terms 1041 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: of role to tape, and you know, I mean it 1042 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: was their prerogative. We told them like, you guys, this 1043 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: is we literally told them because they were kind of 1044 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: talking to us to potentially do it, to to do 1045 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: it again. But then they're like, no, we want to 1046 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: go in a different direction. We're like, I don't think 1047 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: you understand what you're saying. But the best thing is 1048 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,480 Speaker 1: that because the prelimb fights were on ESPN and ABC, 1049 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 1: they ran a promo for the Nosebleeds during that on ESPN, 1050 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: and you know, we're we're all competitors. There's a little 1051 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: bit of schaden freud for us, or just it felt good. 1052 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: You want to You want to beat every team that 1053 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,280 Speaker 1: turns you down, that didn't drift. You want to show 1054 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: them that you're that you're in the show and that 1055 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: you belong and look what you passed up. Well listen, 1056 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait watch more of this cheap seats is 1057 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: It was on my tvo as well, And you guys 1058 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: are always amazing and incredibly kind with your time, so 1059 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate you joined me and telling everybody I know 1060 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: to go and watch Nosebleed, which of course is on 1061 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: on YouTube and it's on the first episode is for 1062 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: free on UFC's YouTube page. We just look up Nosebleed 1063 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: Squad Brothers UFC. You can do that and the next 1064 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: is um You can see the rest of the episodes 1065 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: on UFC Fight Pass. I mean, it's a great thing 1066 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: to subscribe to. You can see the other five. So 1067 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: super fun. Man. When when is the next live show? 1068 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: You have? Live show? We're doing shows in an arbor, 1069 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,479 Speaker 1: Michigan at the end of September at the inn Ourbor 1070 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: Comedy Showcase. We're gonna do our podcast Dumb People Town. 1071 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: We have a little mini run in uh in October 1072 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: we're doing We're participating in a comedy festival in Minneapolis 1073 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: October seven. So a lot of stuff go to Superscars 1074 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: dot com and you can see it. But every week 1075 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: we're up at the comedy Store here in l A. 1076 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: And so you can just check out on Superscars dot 1077 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: com or tour dates. All right, last thing I promised, 1078 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: I know you guys gotta go. Okay, Michigan it's Ohio State. 1079 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 1: Last year the greatest. I have two children and I 1080 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: watched both of them being born. This fell was more 1081 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: satisfied or only Washington to be born. I mean, this 1082 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 1: is because Michigan's. Michigan's program was reborn in that game. Michigan, 1083 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: Like something I followed for way longer than following my 1084 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: kids has been Michigan football, and you just wanted to 1085 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: be a good rivalry. Like right now everyone's like, oh, 1086 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: High State, it's gonna kill him because it's in Columbus. 1087 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't know, Like you don't know 1088 00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 1: what their defense is going to be. You know what 1089 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: Michigan's offer it's gonna be. You just don't know, and 1090 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: so you never know. To me, it would be amazing. 1091 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: So finally walk into a season and be like, we 1092 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 1: don't know if we're gonna win or lose. That's so 1093 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: much better than what we've been doing for the last 1094 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 1: twenty years, which is how badly are we gonna lose? 1095 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: And so for that feeling for in our souls to 1096 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 1: have the one thing that happens for most teams, aside 1097 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: from the Detroit Lions, is to have hope, to have 1098 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 1: hope at the beginning of the season, hope in your team, 1099 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: belief in your team. That's that's that sense of sports, 1100 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: and Michigan gave us that gift last year by winning. 1101 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: Right that you have a this is in listening to 1102 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: your idea of comedy. You have a little bit of 1103 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors to you, right to to do what 1104 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,479 Speaker 1: you do with joy? Al right? I love it with 1105 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: with joy, every man Slashers of comedy. Thank you. I'm sure, 1106 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you get. Randy's gonna pick up a hammer 1107 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: and start helping you. I love it all right, brother, 1108 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: see Doug. My thanks to Randy and Jason. They were awesome. Uh. 1109 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,240 Speaker 1: This is the This is the All Ball podcast reminder 1110 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,760 Speaker 1: you can want. You can listen to the Doug Gottlieb 1111 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: Show daily three to six Eastern or twelve three Pacific 1112 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: on your I Heart Radio app, on Fox Sports Radio, 1113 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or any of your Fox 1114 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio affiliates. Thanks so much for listening. There's more 1115 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: of these great interviews to come. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This 1116 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: is All Ball.