1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: First Day of follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at Advocates Law dot com. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Blake is on the phone today for our first date 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Selena. So in 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call her and see if she'll 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: another date. But before we do that, Blake, how long 8 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from Selena? 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 3: It has been like several days a week maybe, And 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 3: it's not technically a first day followup because we didn't 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: even get our first date. No, what happened she ghosted 12 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: me on the first date. We got set up with 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: friends who like a group chat, and we really hit 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: it off, and we'd been talking for she was a 15 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 3: town business and so we've been just chatting and we'd 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: facetiming and it was going like super well, like she's 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: really great, and I definitely thought we'd hit it off 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: and we were going to hang out the day she 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: got back into town. We were going to have like 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: a late launch, early dinner thing. And I had a 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: whole plan, like just in Kate, you know, like if 22 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: the night went well, I have a telescope on the 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: roof of my building and I was going to show 24 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: her the stars. It was going to be so so cute, 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: and she never showed up, and I have not heard 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: from her since then. 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Good, So have you tried texting her? How many times 28 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: have you reached out to her in that week? 29 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: I mean I probably sent a bunch of texts that afternoon, 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: like you know, like we're worried about her and stuff. 31 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: And then I've tried to not be you know, I 32 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: don't want to be crazy if if she's not responding. 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: I mean, she she definitely got the other messages, so 34 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: you know, I've checked in. I waited a few days 35 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: and I checked in again and still nothing. 36 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: What do you think could have happened? 37 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: I mean, look, the only thing I can think is 38 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: that maybe it was like too intense before we actually met. 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, it really felt special to me, like 40 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: I thought for sure, like we've been talking every we're 41 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: facetiving every day, and I think maybe I wonder if 42 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: maybe she got freaked out that it was like too 43 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: much pressure for a date and like couldn't possibly live 44 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: up to whatever we were imagining it would be or something. 45 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: It is weird, how close you can get to somebody 46 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: just off of like FaceTime, so you feel like you 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: kind of know a person. So essentially, you guys had 48 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: a day. It just was on the phone the. 49 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: Much the longest we've gone without talking since then is 50 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: the thing. So it's like it's wrong we ever had 51 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: a week off. So I don't know, and I checked. 52 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: I texted because it was a mutual friends so I 53 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: reached out of the friends just like make sure they 54 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: were she was okay, and they were like yep. 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: They just said yep. 56 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they just said yep. So I like, I assume 57 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: that she's I mean, that sounded like they knew something, 58 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: but I didn't want to like follow up. I don't know. 59 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: Maybe I got scared about following up then and I 60 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: should have, but then it was too late. 61 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 4: Is there anything to be said to her that she 62 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: could have taken the wrong way? 63 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 3: I don't think so. I mean, like I mean between us, 64 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: like I feel like I did think some things. I 65 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: definitely thought like this is really going to work, like 66 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: you know, and I've I don't know, I've never actually 67 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: been ghosted before. I don't think so. I think maybe 68 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: I just like too was too optimistic and I just 69 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: got carried away, and I must I don't. I don't 70 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: know what it was, but I must have said something 71 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: that suggested that. I don't know, maybe I like she 72 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: thought I was crazy and we're gonna try to get 73 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: married that day or something. I didn't say that. I 74 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: didn't say that. 75 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: Just kidding. 76 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: What was the last conversation you guys had? 77 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: Well the night before, because she was like, she was 78 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: flying pretty early, so like the night before we were 79 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 3: we were facetiming. And then afterwards, I mean I text 80 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: her a few times before she went to sleep, and 81 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: like she asked for a steamy picture, okay, and she 82 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: hearted it. She just hearted it. 83 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 4: That's it. 84 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: That was the last interaction we had. It wasn't it 85 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: wasn't gross. It was very it was you know, it 86 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: was respectable, steamy. 87 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: You knowower and took a picture of your shower. Would that. 88 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: It was like, look, I mean, look, I'm not I know, 89 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: I know, I know the rules. I'm not sending you know, 90 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: I'm not sending her my junk. You know. It was 91 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: like no shirt looked, it looked good, it looked okay. 92 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, but she just hearted it. And I 93 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: assumed at the time. It was because she was falling 94 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: asleep and she didn't want to like text a lot. 95 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: But then like that was the last thing. 96 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what her true reaction was to seeing 97 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: the photo and like, I'm sure you're lovely by I'm 98 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: just want you know what I mean, Like, would that 99 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: be any reason? Like you do you look like. 100 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: If it was that? 101 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 102 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: Very so? 103 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: Maybe you know, she's just like, you're such a man. 104 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: She can't I can't handle it. She's like, oh no, 105 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: I shouldn't ask her a Stevie picture. 106 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 4: I don't know what kind of man I was gonna get. 107 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we're laughing. Yeah, maybe maybe you're too much, man. 108 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: Blake, I must be it. 109 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 4: All right, we'll figure it out. 110 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 5: Man. 111 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: We'll play a song come Back, and then call her 112 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting you 113 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: and maybe get you another date. 114 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 4: If you still want. 115 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you so much. 116 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: All right, we'll play a song come back, get your 117 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: first day follow up next right in the middle of 118 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: your first date follow up if you're just joining us. 119 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: When Blake is on the phone and he's getting ghosted 120 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: by Selena and he has no idea why So we're 121 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: gonna call her in a minute and see if she'll 122 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him 123 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: another date. But real quick, before we do that, Blake, 124 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: why don't you refresh everybody's memory about your not really 125 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: date but still getting ghosted by Selena? 126 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: Selena thing? 127 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked on FaceTime for like a month before 128 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: she got back from a road trip and then work trip, 129 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: and then when she lands were supposed to have a date, 130 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: but then she ghosted me after that, and I think 131 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: I might have come on too strong at the last, 132 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: or I'm too much of a man. 133 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: The last thing, the last thing that happened was you 134 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: sent her a steamy picture and that's it. You haven't 135 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: heard from her since. Way she did ask for the 136 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: steamy picture, right she did. Okay, are you ready to 137 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: call her? Yep, okay, yep, here we go. Hello, Hi, man, 138 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: speak to Selena. 139 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: Please. 140 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 5: This is Selena. 141 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: Hey, Selena, how are you? My name is Jewbull and 142 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: I host a radio show. It's called The Jewel Show. 143 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: Hi, Selena, I'm Nina also on the show. 144 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 4: Hi, and I'm Victoria. 145 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: Oh Hi, Hi, I'm Felena. 146 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you. Selena. 147 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: Have you ever heard of The Jewel Show before? 148 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: Maybe it sounds vaguely familiar. 149 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: We do a segment on our show it's called the 150 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: first Date follow Up. What that means is if you 151 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: go out on a date with somebody and end up 152 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: ghosting them, that person can email us to get you 153 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. So, 154 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: we got an email about you from one of our listeners. 155 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: No really, Yeah, his name is Blake, and he's wondering, Oh, 156 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: you're ghosting Blake. 157 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: Wait, so he thinks I'm ghosting him. 158 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 159 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: He told us about how you guys like facetimed a 160 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 2: bunch and then the last interaction between you two, you said, hey, 161 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: send me a steamy picture, and then so she sent 162 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: you a Seemy pick and then that's the last you 163 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: heard from you. So he doesn't understand what happened, right, 164 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: That's totally fair. 165 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 5: That's totally fair. I Uh, this is the weirdest thing 166 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 5: because I just got my phone back today. I was 167 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 5: on a flight. I flew out to Chicago for work 168 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: and we were supposed to meet up while I was there, 169 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: and I left my phone on the plane and they 170 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 5: literally like just nailed it. Back to me this morning, 171 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 5: probably an hour ago, opened up the package, and so like, 172 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: this is so weird, this is so like so no, no, I. 173 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Didn't want to. 174 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 5: I've been trying, like I sent him a Facebook message, 175 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 5: but he hasn't looked at it yet, and so I 176 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 5: thought he was like mad at me, Like I don't know, 177 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 5: like I didn't ghost him on purpose, and I've tried 178 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: every way I know to get a hold of him, 179 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 5: but I haven't been able to. So I was going 180 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: to call him later now that I have my phone back, 181 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 5: but I didn't have any of my contacts. I had 182 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 5: no way to get a hold of them before. 183 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: Seriously, that is yeah, and you just got your phone back. 184 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 5: Yes, I literally just got it back today. I can't 185 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 5: I don't. 186 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: I know. 187 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 5: That sounds like it's not real. It's real, Like it's 188 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: so weird. Oh maybe it's like kissing it or fate 189 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 5: or something. 190 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: Got to say, Yeah, I guess what Blake is actually 191 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: on the phone listening and wants to talk to you, 192 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: so kind of like you. 193 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 5: Called awesome, Well hey I was. 194 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: I just pull up your Facebook message. I'm sorry i'n't 195 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: open Facebook in like two years. I'm so sorry. Yeah, 196 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: I know. 197 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 5: I can't even this is so weird. I was literally 198 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 5: going to call you this afternoon, but I had to 199 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: do my work first. I've got my phone just now 200 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 5: and the phone ring, and I was like, oh, I 201 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 5: have no idea what this is, but I'm I'm so 202 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 5: thrilled that it's you, and that like, I don't know, 203 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 5: it feels like I don't it feels like it was 204 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: meant to be. 205 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: You're not. I'll give you I'll give you my numbers. 206 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: We're not on the air anymore, right, Maybe I should 207 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 5: write it down this time somewhere somewhere. Maybe address books 208 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 5: were for a reason when people used to write them. 209 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: You guys, they have technology for that. 210 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just so glad you're not ghosting me 211 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: and I I have I'm happy to restart the date 212 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: plan whenever you are free. 213 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: I love that. I'll be back in town in like 214 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 5: a week or two. And then, so you sent me 215 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 5: that picture. That was the last like internet like, that's 216 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: the last time I talked to you. Was that was 217 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: that was a good picture. I'm sorry that. I'm sorry 218 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 5: that that wasn't wasn't too much. 219 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: Man, they think the picture was too much and you 220 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: couldn't handle it, and that's why you disappeared, maybe. 221 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: Like subconsciously that's but no, I absolutely like it was 222 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: so fun, like getting to know you and talking to you, 223 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 5: and I was really looking forward to it too, and 224 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 5: so I was just thinking, like I guess I wasn't 225 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: meant to be you know, and then this totally flipped 226 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 5: it around. 227 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Selena, would you like to go on another 228 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: date with Blake. 229 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 4: We'll pay for it. Absolutely, that's exciting. 230 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: I can't wait. And if you lose a phone again 231 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: then I'll just look for you on Facebook. 232 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: I guess. Wait ye air tag. 233 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good idea. I'll have to put an 234 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 5: air tag on you and then I can sign you 235 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 5: from the air tag. 236 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 4: In you heard. With the air tag, you will first date, 237 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 4: follow up