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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death.
Speaker 4: And so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Well, hello,
Speaker 4: how have you been since our last episode together? You
Speaker 4: may listen week after week, or you may be somebody
Speaker 4: like me who does the binge listening or binge watching
Speaker 4: on TV shows. Either way, I hope it has been good.
Speaker 4: I hope there have been some miracles and smiles. I
Speaker 4: had something good happen just a couple of days ago.
Speaker 4: Our friend Sonia Ronaldi, who captures the images and voices
Speaker 4: of people in the afterlife, did a presentation for us
Speaker 4: we Don't Die dot com. And she showed about an
Speaker 4: hour or so presentation on PowerPoint of the images that
Speaker 4: she has been collecting from people she works with, say
Speaker 4: a parent. She does this over zoom. She asks for
Speaker 4: a picture of the loved one. If you can imagine,
Speaker 4: she's got a humidifier set up with all much a
Speaker 4: steam that comes out and over to the side is
Speaker 4: the picture of the loved one. She then films the vapor,
Speaker 4: the steam, and then she'll go back through it. Now
Speaker 4: one second of film could be thirty two or sixty
Speaker 4: four different images, so she goes through them with a
Speaker 4: fine toothed comb. And what's happening quite often is the
Speaker 4: loved one will show themselves on her recordings on those
Speaker 4: different frames looking different. So, for instance, if it was
Speaker 4: a young person who passed, they can change their image
Speaker 4: from how they looked when they passed. They show pictures
Speaker 4: of them as younger people, and they're able to show
Speaker 4: themselves as older people as if they are growing up
Speaker 4: in the afterlife. There were some images, and she must
Speaker 4: have had sixty or seventy different images of people that
Speaker 4: she has worked with over the past eight months or
Speaker 4: so since we did the last one, and she shows
Speaker 4: the picture that was sent to her, and then you
Speaker 4: can see the other pictures. There are people that are
Speaker 4: say older, wearing glasses, having a mustache, showing themselves younger,
Speaker 4: no glasses, no mustache. People that perhaps had a picture
Speaker 4: of them with a straight face in the photo that
Speaker 4: she had received show themselves now with a big smile.
Speaker 4: Their faces seem to turn. There's different series of pictures
Speaker 4: that almost appear three dimensional to me. Sonya is one
Speaker 4: of the best reasons to believe in the afterlife. Because
Speaker 4: of all the work she's done for over thirty some years,
Speaker 4: people cannot schedule a reading with her. She does not
Speaker 4: work that way. She believes she works with a team
Speaker 4: of scientists on the other side. So often she's.
Speaker 3: Got a group of people that follow her and make
Speaker 3: small donations to her, and she'll work with those people
Speaker 3: to do some of her projects. She's incredible, So I
Speaker 3: think that's a really good reason to believe in the afterlife.
Speaker 3: So if you were not on that and you would
Speaker 3: still like to see it, if you wouldn't mind donating
Speaker 3: a couple of dollars, go to We Don't Die dot com.
Speaker 3: Click on the store page. It's right there at the
Speaker 3: very top Sonia Ranaldi's latest experiments and right there you
Speaker 3: can see some of the pictures. They're really quite fantastic.
Speaker 3: There is something called paradolia, and I know many people
Speaker 3: believe they have captured pictures of their loved ones, and
Speaker 3: they may have, right. So we were talking about EVP
Speaker 3: not too long ago getting the voices of people in
Speaker 3: the afterlife, and now this is pictures and what paradolia is.
Speaker 3: And I think this is important to know is that
Speaker 3: our minds look for faces in things. So when we
Speaker 3: look up at the clouds, have you seen dogs or
Speaker 3: bunny rabbits or maybe even the face of your loved one.
Speaker 3: That's what our mind does. If you look at a
Speaker 3: tree and you look at the bark, ooh, maybe you
Speaker 3: can make a face out of it. There's funny things
Speaker 3: out there, like people saw Jesus Christ or the Virgin
Speaker 3: Mary and a piece of toast. So not that the
Speaker 3: Virgin Mary or Jesus wouldn't appear in a piece of toast,
Speaker 3: because maybe they would. But we want to look for
Speaker 3: intelligence that is coming through a lot of people send
Speaker 3: me pictures of what they believe is orbs, and I'm
Speaker 3: on the fence about orbs unless you can see a
Speaker 3: clear face of a loved one in there, or it's
Speaker 3: got some kind of intelligence like it has always following
Speaker 3: you around in pictures. It may be dust, you know,
Speaker 3: it may be an orb. I'm not the ORB expert,
Speaker 3: but you always want to look for intelligence in those images.
Speaker 3: So when we look at Sonya's work, it is definitely
Speaker 3: intelligence because they are real people. They come in in color,
Speaker 3: most likely their facial expressions change, their age changes. It
Speaker 3: gives me goosebumps. And I so wish this was a
Speaker 3: video episode and I could just show you those pictures.
Speaker 3: You'll have to take my word for it. Like I said,
Speaker 3: good wee don't die dot com store page. You can
Speaker 3: check those out if you'd like to. I also want
Speaker 3: to answer a few questions that have come in. Where
Speaker 3: have they come in? I have been checking out reviews
Speaker 3: that you guys have been kind enough to post on
Speaker 3: the Apple Music page. I don't know where else you
Speaker 3: can leave reviews of the show, or you can email
Speaker 3: me directly, of course, I love hearing your stories and
Speaker 3: your experiences and your recommendations. Sandra Champlaine at Gmail is
Speaker 3: my best way to contact me. Someone had asked me,
Speaker 3: what about cremation? Does it impact our soul? Have I
Speaker 3: talked about cremation on other episodes, and I honestly don't
Speaker 3: think I have for any other reason except for there's
Speaker 3: nothing good, bad, or indifferent. Those in the afterlife and
Speaker 3: us going to the afterlife. We are all going to
Speaker 3: get there. I promise you that we are going to
Speaker 3: either be here or we are going to be there.
Speaker 3: There's no place we're going to be stuck in between
Speaker 3: the way we pass and what we do with our remains.
Speaker 3: We do not need to be fearful that there is
Speaker 3: a right way or wrong way. I'm not in someone
Speaker 3: else's shoes.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 3: And I know when my poor father was passing my
Speaker 3: siblings and I wanted to make sure Dad got as
Speaker 3: much pain medication as possible to put him out of
Speaker 3: the pain that he was in. And my brother made
Speaker 3: a comment and said, we take care of our animals
Speaker 3: much kinder than we do human beings. And the doctors
Speaker 3: and the nurse said, due to malpractice suits, there is
Speaker 3: a limit as to how much they can give people.
Speaker 3: I do know they're people who make decisions to end
Speaker 3: their life if they're suffering from a disease. I know
Speaker 3: certain countries can assist in that. I'm not the person
Speaker 3: to say what's right and wrong in your situation. No
Speaker 3: matter how we get into the afterlife, we are greeted
Speaker 3: by open arms, loving arms. We are reunited with family, friends,
Speaker 3: even our pets are there so as to if we
Speaker 3: are buried, if we are cremated, if we are I
Speaker 3: don't know, frozen to maybe come back to life one day.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they still do cryogenics. But whatever
Speaker 3: we do to dispose of our human body is fine.
Speaker 3: The most important thing we can do is we can
Speaker 3: look out for those people that are left behind. I
Speaker 3: know one gentleman who died and each one of his
Speaker 3: kids took a little bit of the ashes and put
Speaker 3: it in a piece of jewelry. You know, whatever that
Speaker 3: is to help the living that's what's important. On the
Speaker 3: time we have together today, I want to do a
Speaker 3: few things. I want to talk about our why. Why
Speaker 3: is it that we're so interested in the afterlife. I
Speaker 3: want you to hear from doctor Bruce Grayson about people's
Speaker 3: lives being changed by near death experiences. Really, you're not
Speaker 3: the same person you were as before you had the
Speaker 3: near death experience. I'd like us all to have this
Speaker 3: wake up call so that we don't come to the
Speaker 3: edge of our life and flatline like so many do
Speaker 3: with the near death experience. Let it give us life,
Speaker 3: Let it give us our purpose. Also, I think it's
Speaker 3: time for a little story time. Many of us have
Speaker 3: been racing around through life and wouldn't it be nice
Speaker 3: just to sit back, relax, maybe make yourself a cup
Speaker 3: of tea and just listen, listen to some stories that
Speaker 3: can warm the heart. So that's what we are up
Speaker 3: to today now. My why of doing all of these
Speaker 3: episodes is at the foundation to help people with pa
Speaker 3: and grief and not only to be able to get
Speaker 3: to the other side of it. And by that I
Speaker 3: mean start asking yourself those important questions, who am I,
Speaker 3: what's my life for? What am I passionate about. We
Speaker 3: spend our lives doing things we think we should be doing,
Speaker 3: but are we really going after what's important to us
Speaker 3: in life? When we take away the fear of death,
Speaker 3: my friend, we take away the fear of life, and
Speaker 3: you start realizing that you're one of a kind. Your
Speaker 3: life is for a reason. You're important, you are supported.
Speaker 3: We're here to experience, We're here to learn new things.
Speaker 3: We're here to share, We're here to love. We make mistakes,
Speaker 3: it gets messy, we're here to forgive. But there's so
Speaker 3: much value to life. So for me, I know how
Speaker 3: difficult grief is, and I want to help people get
Speaker 3: out of grief or get to the other side of it,
Speaker 3: knowing full will that your loved ones are still alive,
Speaker 3: and then let's have powerful life while we're here. Now.
Speaker 3: Another comment I got on the Apple Music podcast review
Speaker 3: for Shades of the Afterlife. Great show, but it's too repetitive,
Speaker 3: So I am listening. I truly am. I never get
Speaker 3: sick of telling you guys' stories about near death experiences.
Speaker 3: The scientists, the doctors, the lay people, all investigating the
Speaker 3: afterlife deathbed visitations, different kinds of mediums, the instrumental transcommunication,
Speaker 3: automatic writing, EVPs, all of that. I never get tired
Speaker 3: of it, and I apologize if I repeat myself, But
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I feel like somebody may just listen
Speaker 3: to one show and I want to make sure if
Speaker 3: something was said two and a half years ago, that
Speaker 3: perhaps I bring it back up again. I don't try
Speaker 3: to be repetitive. I do try to be different. I
Speaker 3: did think of something that may help. If you are
Speaker 3: truly a fan of the show and you wish to
Speaker 3: do a little financial support, and you certainly don't have
Speaker 3: to don't have to. I want to offer you something
Speaker 3: if you go to Patreon dot com, p A t
Speaker 3: R e o N dot com. I started a site,
Speaker 3: so just type in Sandra Champlain what it is. It's
Speaker 3: all episodes of We Don't Die Radio, which is my
Speaker 3: nine year old podcast which now has over four hundred
Speaker 3: episodes of the Afterlife. It is mainly interviewing people, so
Speaker 3: it's not any commentary like this show is. Plus, we
Speaker 3: have currently around one hundred and fifty episodes of Shades
Speaker 3: of the Afterlife and you can see them all in
Speaker 3: one place. Do a search, find the episode on the
Speaker 3: topic you want to listen to click on it and
Speaker 3: you'll be able to listen to it right away. So
Speaker 3: I think that might solve the problem not being repetitive
Speaker 3: and finding over five hundred and fifty hours of episodes
Speaker 3: with me talking about the afterlife. So let's go to
Speaker 3: the break now and then we'll be back. You're listening
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 3: When we think of near death experiences and famous ones,
Speaker 3: I don't know who comes to mind for you, but
Speaker 3: for me, I think of the story of Dani and Brinkley,
Speaker 3: who was a real rough, tough and bad guy and
Speaker 3: being struck by lightning twice. He sure had his fair
Speaker 3: share of time spent on the other side. It was
Speaker 3: a wake up call to him to change his life,
Speaker 3: to make a difference. He has. He continues as an
Speaker 3: author in inspirational speaker. He has donated his time and
Speaker 3: thousands of veterans have passed while he was at their bedside.
Speaker 3: He has been a giver. I also think of Anita Morjani,
Speaker 3: who had stage four cancer, who was at the end
Speaker 3: nothing more they could do for her, and during her
Speaker 3: near death experience, and she explains this well in her
Speaker 3: book Dying to Be Me, she gets an opportunity to
Speaker 3: see the other side. She gets an opportunity to see
Speaker 3: the bigger picture. She makes a deal with the universe
Speaker 3: that she can come back, be healthy, well, cancer will
Speaker 3: disappear if she's willing to tell the story of who
Speaker 3: people are, what their life is for, and that there
Speaker 3: is life after death. And then I think of doctor
Speaker 3: Rajiv Parti, who was an anesthesiologist with the big car
Speaker 3: while several cars. It was about money, it was about
Speaker 3: big houses, it was about accumulating, and when people went
Speaker 3: down through his anesthesia, he didn't care about them. He
Speaker 3: had his own near death experience due to an illness.
Speaker 3: He got a clear wake up call as to his
Speaker 3: impact on others. He came back with a newfound love
Speaker 3: of humanity, and as an anesthesiologist who puts people to sleep,
Speaker 3: he chose to wake people up. So now he's spreading
Speaker 3: the good word. I don't want any of us to
Speaker 3: have a near death experience. I want us to take
Speaker 3: the lessons of a near death experience and apply them
Speaker 3: to our life. It is time to live the life
Speaker 3: we want to live. Certainly, we've got to pay bills.
Speaker 3: If you're in a job that you don't like, continue
Speaker 3: on with it to pay the bills. Tell you can
Speaker 3: find what makes your heart sing, but put in things
Speaker 3: for you. Most people pass and they look back on
Speaker 3: their life and they have regrets. BE like to not
Speaker 3: have those regrets. I do believe that in the hereafter
Speaker 3: we can continue our dreams, We can continue to grow
Speaker 3: and to learn. But what if we packed this life
Speaker 3: with the adventures, the love, the experiences, the forgiveness, the failure,
Speaker 3: the success, all that that our souls are craving for.
Speaker 3: All those things are good for our souls, yes, But
Speaker 3: why there are really good is because anything that we
Speaker 3: have learned in this life, we have an opportunity to
Speaker 3: share with our fellow travelers and help them to have
Speaker 3: a good life. And I think that's the whole point
Speaker 3: of life. So let's listen to doctor Bruce Grayson about
Speaker 3: what he says about people no longer being the same
Speaker 3: after a near death experience.
Speaker 7: Most near death experiences say that they have trouble speaking
Speaker 7: about it because they just aren't words to describe it,
Speaker 7: like trying to draw an odor with a crayon. Either
Speaker 7: the visions they saw, or the feelings they felt, or
Speaker 7: the entities they encountered, they just aren't words to describe them.
Speaker 7: A sense of connectedness to other people, to nature, to
Speaker 7: the universe, to the divine, and that changes how they
Speaker 7: see everything. It makes them much less invested in things
Speaker 7: of the physical world.
Speaker 1: Power, prestige, fame, competition.
Speaker 7: Experiences almost always say this is the most important thing
Speaker 7: that's ever happened to me, and nothing else in my
Speaker 7: life compares to it. I'm Bruce Grayson. I'm a professor
Speaker 7: emeritus of psychiatry and neurobehavioral sciences, and I've recently come
Speaker 7: out with a book called After the Doctor, explores what
Speaker 7: near death experiences reveal about life and beyond. Near death
Speaker 7: experiences are profound, subjective experiences that many people have when
Speaker 7: they come close to death, or sometimes when they are
Speaker 7: in fact pronounced dead, and they include such difficult to
Speaker 7: explain phenomena as a sense of life, leaving the physical body,
Speaker 7: reviewing one's entire life, encountering some other entities that aren't
Speaker 7: physically present that they sometimes interpret as deities or deceased
Speaker 7: loved ones. When they return, they often are profoundly changed
Speaker 7: by this experience. The most common change we hear from
Speaker 7: near death experiences is that they are no longer afraid
Speaker 7: of death. They describe having existed without their physical bodies
Speaker 7: when their physical bodies were essentially dead, and yet they
Speaker 7: were feeling better than ever. Most near death experiences say
Speaker 7: they are more spiritual, but not more religious. They tend
Speaker 7: to look on organize religions as being simplifications of what
Speaker 7: the spiritual world really is. That what's important to them
Speaker 7: is the interconnections, not the dogma that goes along with it.
Speaker 7: And they think that the type of deity they encountered,
Speaker 7: if they did, is not as limited as the God
Speaker 7: they were taught about in church. It's much bigger than that,
Speaker 7: much more inclusive. It leads them eventually to the Golden Rule,
Speaker 7: which is actually part of every religion. We have do
Speaker 7: unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Speaker 7: But they feel that this is not for them anymore
Speaker 7: a guideline we're supposed to follow, but a law of nature.
Speaker 7: The vast majority of the death experiences that we hear
Speaker 7: are pleasant, if not outright blissful. That sounds like a
Speaker 7: wonderful thing to happen, but it can create a lot
Speaker 7: of problems in your life. I've talked to lots of
Speaker 7: people who were concerned that their loved one now is
Speaker 7: not the same person that they married. Lives were based
Speaker 7: previously on something that they thought they shared that they
Speaker 7: no longer shared. That can really disrupt the marriage, And
Speaker 7: there have been reports of a high rate of divorces
Speaker 7: among neo death experiencers. Furthermore, a lot of the families
Speaker 7: will say when a crisis happens, the experience may just
Speaker 7: take off and go see if they can help, without
Speaker 7: concern of just leaving.
Speaker 1: The family behind.
Speaker 7: Often feel why do you love other people as much
Speaker 7: as you love me? I'm your family, which is often
Speaker 7: very hard for the children of the near death experiencers.
Speaker 7: One fellow I knew was a sergeant in the Marines
Speaker 7: in Vietnam and was shot in the chest, and during
Speaker 7: that operation he had an elaborate and near death experience.
Speaker 7: When he came back from that, the idea of shooting
Speaker 7: someone else was totally unthinkable to him. He felt that
Speaker 7: he was no different from the people he was shooting at,
Speaker 7: and he had to eventually leave the Marines, which had
Speaker 7: been his lifelong goal to be a marine, ended up
Speaker 7: coming back to the States and retraining as a medical technician.
Speaker 7: And I've heard this again and again from police officers
Speaker 7: and military officers who retrained in social work, a medical care, clergy, teaching,
Speaker 7: and so forth. Being a psychiatrist, and I've worked with
Speaker 7: people for about fifty years now, I know how difficult
Speaker 7: it is to help them make changes in their lives.
Speaker 7: You have an experience that takes place in a matter
Speaker 7: of seconds or a fraction of a second that totally
Speaker 7: transforms their attitudes, values, and beliefs and behavior. People have
Speaker 7: thought about ways of trying to induce an NDE like
Speaker 7: experience safely through guided meditation, hypnotherapy, psychedelic drug use, and
Speaker 7: these attempts have pretty much not been successful. And when
Speaker 7: I talk with New Death Experience about this, they say
Speaker 7: that one of the most therapeutic things about the experience
Speaker 7: was the complete lack of control.
Speaker 4: You have.
Speaker 7: So much of our lives is spent on trying to
Speaker 7: maintain control of our lives, which is tremendously anxiety provoking,
Speaker 7: and in a near death experience, no matter what happens
Speaker 7: to you, you are totally out of control. Something else
Speaker 7: is in control of what's happening to you, and yet
Speaker 7: you feel better than ever. It often helps people deal
Speaker 7: with their anxieties, certainly their anxiety about death and dying,
Speaker 7: which often falls over into other areas of being anxious
Speaker 7: about other things in life as well, And when they
Speaker 7: come back, they realize you don't need to be in
Speaker 7: control all the time, and that giving up control, stop
Speaker 7: being so obsessional about being in control, makes life much
Speaker 7: more enjoyable for you, and it may help the rest
Speaker 7: of us in learning how to make our lives more
Speaker 7: meaningful and fulfilling.
Speaker 3: That clip comes from our friends over at Big Think,
Speaker 3: and don't forget to check out doctor Bruce Grayson's book.
Speaker 3: After next, I just want to read to you a
Speaker 3: few short accounts of near death experiences. In two thousand
Speaker 3: and one, a study was done by renowned cardiologist Pim
Speaker 3: Van Lomo. A man who had been in a deep
Speaker 3: coma later told a nurse that he recognized her. He
Speaker 3: told her that he saw where she had placed his
Speaker 3: dentures during resuscitation efforts, and then he described the cart
Speaker 3: where she placed them. They were there precisely as he
Speaker 3: described it. We had done an earlier episode about veridical
Speaker 3: near death experiences, and these are those that can be verified.
Speaker 3: Here's another One man who had a near death experience
Speaker 3: as a child recalled the experience of meeting dead relatives.
Speaker 3: There were some ladies. They were so loving and so wonderful.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to come back. I didn't see any
Speaker 3: pictures of them until I was an adult, and then
Speaker 3: I said, oh, yeah, they were my great grandmothers who
Speaker 3: had died years before I was born. Here's another and
Speaker 3: this is the doctor telling the story. She suffered a
Speaker 3: cardiac arrest during her stay in the hospital where I
Speaker 3: was the chairman of the psychiatry department. She was unconscious
Speaker 3: as the resuscitation team tried to revive her. According to
Speaker 3: a later report, she floated out of her body and
Speaker 3: stood near the window watching the resuscitation. She observed without
Speaker 3: any pain whatsoever, as they thumped on her chest and
Speaker 3: pumped air into her lungs. During the resuscitation, a pen
Speaker 3: fell out of her doctor's pocket and rolled near the
Speaker 3: same window where her out of body spirit was standing
Speaker 3: and watching. The doctor eventually walked over, picked up the pen,
Speaker 3: and put it back into his pocket. Then he rejoined
Speaker 3: the frantic effort to save her. They succeeded. A few
Speaker 3: days later, she told the doctor that she had observed
Speaker 3: the resuscitation team at work during her cardiac arrest. No,
Speaker 3: He soothingly reassured her, you were probably hallucinating because of
Speaker 3: the lack of oxygen to your brain. This can happen
Speaker 3: when the heart stops beating, but I saw your pen
Speaker 3: roll over to the window, she replied. Then she described
Speaker 3: the pen and the other details of the resuscitation. The
Speaker 3: doctor was shocked. His patient had not only been comatose
Speaker 3: during the resuscitation, but she had also been blind for
Speaker 3: many years. That give me goosebumps. It did for me.
Speaker 3: It is time for us to take a break, so
Speaker 3: make yourself comfortable. Grab that cup of tea. It's going
Speaker 3: to be story time with Sandra when we get back.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Speaker 3: I learned a couple of tips this past week, tips
Speaker 3: or tricks, whatever you want to call them. One is
Speaker 3: just to slow down and be it centered. I don't
Speaker 3: want you to think I live a stress packed life,
Speaker 3: that I'm always on edge, but there certainly is some
Speaker 3: anxiety that goes through my life. I liked how doctor
Speaker 3: Bruce Grayson said, we don't need to be in control
Speaker 3: all the time. Remember the children's the nursery rhyme, Row Row,
Speaker 3: row your boat gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily.
Speaker 3: Life is but a dream, so it is. It's an illusion.
Speaker 3: It's a very real one. There is pain and suffering,
Speaker 3: but if we try to fight it and row upstream,
Speaker 3: it's not so easy. Better to go with the current
Speaker 3: and do the best we can. So one of the
Speaker 3: things is a breathing technique. It will help recenter us,
Speaker 3: it'll help us gain control, and if you do it
Speaker 3: a few times you watch, you'll really feel better and
Speaker 3: you'll feel less stress. So I'll explain it to you
Speaker 3: so you don't have to hear me doing it. But
Speaker 3: it is to breathe in deep and fill your lungs
Speaker 3: and belly with air. And before you breathe out, you
Speaker 3: take one more sip of air, so you breathe in deep,
Speaker 3: and then you do a you know, one more that
Speaker 3: sounds terrible. One more sip of air and hold it
Speaker 3: and then just as slow as you can, just let
Speaker 3: it out. See how you feel before. Do it several times.
Speaker 3: It'll make a difference. The other good tip that I
Speaker 3: got is about dreams. I'm a girl who has the
Speaker 3: craziest dreams. You might too. Talking to a dream expert,
Speaker 3: she said, if we write down our dreams when we
Speaker 3: remember them first thing in the morning, just get them
Speaker 3: out of your head. They don't last too long there.
Speaker 3: Write them down, don't look at them, but after having
Speaker 3: several dreams recorded, look to see the common denominators in
Speaker 3: your feelings. So it's not about what happened in the dream,
Speaker 3: it's about how you felt about them. That our subconscious
Speaker 3: mind at night works out things, and if we can
Speaker 3: have a heart to heart talk with ourselves, analyzing the
Speaker 3: dreams a bit, working out the emotions that appear in
Speaker 3: our dreams, working out why they're occurring in our life,
Speaker 3: coming to some understanding, we have more room at night
Speaker 3: for other kinds of dreams, and wouldn't we all like
Speaker 3: to dream of our loved ones. May not hurt to
Speaker 3: talk to your loved ones before you go to bed
Speaker 3: and see if they'll come into your dreams, but I
Speaker 3: do find and I've been doing it since last episode.
Speaker 3: I've been writing down dreams, and my dreams have gone
Speaker 3: from reoccurring stressful dreams to just kind of crazy nonsense dreams.
Speaker 3: So we'll see where they go. I'll report back. Let's
Speaker 3: get into some story time. When my little daughter Grace
Speaker 3: passed away, I was devastated, simply beside myself with grief.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do, where to turn. I
Speaker 3: couldn't eat or sleep. I had been through so much
Speaker 3: and it simply was not fair. I was so angry
Speaker 3: with God, the doctors, with myself. Everyone. Gracie had Treacher
Speaker 3: Colin's syndrome. She had a cleft palate, was missing bones
Speaker 3: from her cheeks and chin, and her ears were little
Speaker 3: nubs with no outer openings. She had dealt with all
Speaker 3: of these problems, including many surgeries to overcome them, and
Speaker 3: like a trooper. At the age of three, she was
Speaker 3: a happy, little blonde delight and all she wanted in
Speaker 3: the world was to keep up with her five year
Speaker 3: old sister Katie. Unfortunately, we discovered another roadblock. She had
Speaker 3: very little enamel on her teeth and her baby teeth
Speaker 3: began to break down. To protect them, she needed to
Speaker 3: have her teeth capped. The only way for the dentist
Speaker 3: to work on her was to give her gas. Otherwise
Speaker 3: she fought like a bear and wouldn't let him work
Speaker 3: on her mouth. The third dentist appointment, she suddenly stopped breathing.
Speaker 3: Despite all of their efforts, they couldn't bring her back.
Speaker 3: I was shocked. I followed the ambulance to the emergency
Speaker 3: room at the Catholic Hospital, where they left me in
Speaker 3: a room with her. I cradled her in my arms
Speaker 3: and begged her to wake up, but that was not
Speaker 3: to be. My sister came to the hospital right away,
Speaker 3: so I wasn't alone, Thank goodness. Finally, I had to
Speaker 3: let my baby go and walk away. I have never
Speaker 3: ever had to do anything so hard. People quickly gathered, family, friends,
Speaker 3: neighbors all came to offer support, but there was none
Speaker 3: to be found. I became ill with the migraine, nausea
Speaker 3: and vomiting. I curled up in my bed and closed
Speaker 3: my eyes, praying and wishing I could go back in time,
Speaker 3: Wishing I hadn't taken her to the dentist that day,
Speaker 3: Wishing she would have been born without so many challenges,
Speaker 3: wondering if the jeanes that caused all of her problems
Speaker 3: came from me, but no one knew the answer. The
Speaker 3: migraine passed, but not the grief. The funeral had to
Speaker 3: be arranged, so many things to attend to. I couldn't eat,
Speaker 3: I couldn't sleep. Every time I tried to sleep, I
Speaker 3: would see her in that tiny white coffin and jerk awake.
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of anything else except my five year
Speaker 3: old who still needed a mama. She didn't understand why
Speaker 3: her little sister was no longer there, and wanted to
Speaker 3: know when she was coming back. Then one night, a
Speaker 3: miracle occurred. I had dozed off, and instead of seeing
Speaker 3: Grace in her coffin. I found myself walking along a
Speaker 3: wooded path. The grass was thick and green. I could
Speaker 3: smell the flowers that speckled the ground, a soft breeze blue,
Speaker 3: and it felt good. In the distance, I saw a tall, black,
Speaker 3: wrought iron fence. As I approached, I saw people walking
Speaker 3: around on the other side. It looked like they were
Speaker 3: having a picnic. Leaned against the fence, just watching. Then
Speaker 3: I saw a child pulling a man toward me. As
Speaker 3: they drew closer, I recognized them. It was my father
Speaker 3: in law and Gracie. My father in law had passed
Speaker 3: away the month before Gracie was born. I always regretted
Speaker 3: that he never got to see her, But now I
Speaker 3: saw them together. They stopped about a foot away from
Speaker 3: the fence. Gracie's face had filled out. She looked exactly
Speaker 3: the way I pictured she would once she had had
Speaker 3: all of her surgeries. She was a perfect little girl,
Speaker 3: and she looked so happy. She waved me with a giggle,
Speaker 3: and then they turned around and walked away. I immediately
Speaker 3: awoke with the knowledge that I had just seen two angels.
Speaker 3: My little girl was in heaven with her grandfather. She
Speaker 3: was happy and well and I had nothing to fear
Speaker 3: for her. Some may say I dreamed of what I
Speaker 3: hoped to be, but I know it was no dream,
Speaker 3: and while I still grieved, it was tempered with the
Speaker 3: relief of knowing my baby was in good hands. And
Speaker 3: that was by Susan Hawthorne. Here's another I never had
Speaker 3: a dog, and at first was weary of surprising our
Speaker 3: young sons with a chocolate Labrador Retriever puppy for Christmas.
Speaker 3: Until I met that little bouncing ball of silky brown fur.
Speaker 3: Gracie won me over instantly. She was beautiful and affectionate.
Speaker 3: She had loads of personality that made her tons of fun,
Speaker 3: and boy was she ever smart. Her first summer with us,
Speaker 3: for instance, Gracie discovered that she could cool off by
Speaker 3: lying on an air conditioning vent in the kitchen floor.
Speaker 3: One day, I thought the first floor was too cool
Speaker 3: compared to the rest of the house, so I closed
Speaker 3: a couple of events downstairs, including one of those in
Speaker 3: the kitchen. Gracie's routine didn't occur to me until she
Speaker 3: walked over to the vent to lay down. Immediately she
Speaker 3: noticed the lack of airflow. She stood up and then
Speaker 3: studied the rate for a moment. I watched in wonder
Speaker 3: as then she plunged her claws into it, pulling it
Speaker 3: out and calmly flung it aside. She settled down onto
Speaker 3: the open space and the floor and looked at me
Speaker 3: with a triumphant grin. Okay, Gracie, I get it, I said,
Speaker 3: smiling at her. From now on, I won't mess with
Speaker 3: your vent. Every summer, that was her favorite resting place.
Speaker 3: We all grew close to our furry family member. We
Speaker 3: loved her, and she adored us in return. Gracie always
Speaker 3: seemed to sense what we needed. When my husband was
Speaker 3: coming home, even at unusual times, she would tell me
Speaker 3: he was on his way by running to the window
Speaker 3: to watch for his approach. Sure Enough, within five minutes
Speaker 3: he'd enter our neighborhood. She knew to move slowly around
Speaker 3: elderly grandparents. If you could use some fun, she grabbed
Speaker 3: a frisbee ready to play. If you wanted your space,
Speaker 3: she rested and awaited your call. If you were sick
Speaker 3: or sad, she placed a huge paw on your arm
Speaker 3: or snuggled up beside you, comforting you until you recovered.
Speaker 3: Such a good girl, I told her, you always know
Speaker 3: how to help. She seemed to understand everything I said.
Speaker 3: For ten years, Gracie added to the joy of our family.
Speaker 3: But one Sunday evening mid July, the dreaded moment arrived.
Speaker 3: Our beloved Gracie was passing away, and we were heartbroken.
Speaker 3: My grief was overwhelming. I cried for days, and every
Speaker 3: time I walked into the house I ached with sorrow.
Speaker 3: I was used to a lovable big dog with nuzzling
Speaker 3: nose and wagging tail, running to welcome me, charging through
Speaker 3: the kitchen, her nails clicking on the vinyl floor. As
Speaker 3: she tried to stop, she would often slide right into
Speaker 3: my feet. Her greetings had been clumsy and charming, hilarious
Speaker 3: and heartwarming, all at the same time. I missed them.
Speaker 3: I missed her terribly. After arriving home on a hot
Speaker 3: afternoon a couple of weeks after she passed, I poured
Speaker 3: a glass of iced tea and stood in the kitchen
Speaker 3: sipping it. When I caught sight of that vent that
Speaker 3: she'd always laid on. A tear rolled down my cheek. Oh, Gracie,
Speaker 3: I sighed, how I wish you were still here. I
Speaker 3: heard the air conditioning kick in, and then something special happened.
Speaker 3: Tiny puffs of brown gracie fur began to rise from
Speaker 3: the vent, and they gathered into a little ball. I watched,
Speaker 3: mesmerized as the ball of fur became bigger and quickly
Speaker 3: rolled across the kitchen floor toward me, mimicking the enthusiasm
Speaker 3: that Gracie had shown before. Like her, it stopped right
Speaker 3: at my feet. I picked up that small bunch of fluff,
Speaker 3: and as I smoothed it between my fingers, the heartache
Speaker 3: began to ease. Here was reassurance that Gracie's love would
Speaker 3: always be with us. Her legacy would live on in
Speaker 3: our hearts, in our memories, in the ways she had
Speaker 3: helped shape our family. Message received Gracie loud and clear,
Speaker 3: and that was by d Riley. Don't let anybody tell
Speaker 3: you it was just a pet. If you have a
Speaker 3: four legged friend, pass, I tell you those animals make
Speaker 3: their way into our hearts with all that unconditional love,
Speaker 3: sometimes deeper than we let any human being. The more
Speaker 3: we love, the more it hurts. But I do think
Speaker 3: our capacity to experience love is really important while we're here.
Speaker 3: So I'm happy to report our loved ones do go on,
Speaker 3: and so do our fine feathered, four legged, furried, etc. Friends.
Speaker 3: Let's go to the break and then we'll be right
Speaker 3: back with some more stories. You're listening to Shades of
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain
Speaker 3: and these are stories that make a difference. I said
Speaker 3: earlier that the common denominator out of everything that I
Speaker 3: do is to help relieve pain. I don't want anyone
Speaker 3: to discount their grief, and I do think this bears repeating,
Speaker 3: as this is the primary reason people listen to this show,
Speaker 3: read afterlife books, and do the research. Grief has a
Speaker 3: mind of its own. A lot of it is in
Speaker 3: our control and a lot of it is out of
Speaker 3: our control. Don't be hard on yourself. If you have
Speaker 3: not yet taken me up on my offer for a
Speaker 3: free copy of my book, please take it. Chapter ten
Speaker 3: is about surviving grief. It's about what we can do
Speaker 3: to help move through the grieving process, bring back our
Speaker 3: neurotransmitters to a healthy level again. And our neurotransmitters are
Speaker 3: what controls all those impacts of grief, like the feelings
Speaker 3: of sadness, of rage, of uncontrollable crying. You may have
Speaker 3: some guilt, you may feel numb, you may feel you're
Speaker 3: losing your memory, and so much more. So remember go
Speaker 3: to we dootdie dot com at the bottom of the
Speaker 3: page and to your email address. What it says. It's
Speaker 3: the first few chapters, but it's the whole book. So
Speaker 3: let's get back to some stories so that we know
Speaker 3: just how close our loved ones are. This story is
Speaker 3: by Charlene. A bottle of Shallamar perfume sat on my
Speaker 3: mother's dresser. The art deco Shallamar bottle was filled with
Speaker 3: an exotic fragrance, a blend of night blooming flowers, vanilla,
Speaker 3: and mysterious musk. The blue glass stopper was its signature.
Speaker 3: A tidy ribbon encircled the bottleneck, much like the scarves
Speaker 3: or pearls that often graced my mother's neck. Our home
Speaker 3: was perfumed by shalamar on a regular basis. I remember
Speaker 3: being upstairs in my bedroom when suddenly the scent wafted
Speaker 3: in silently but powerfully into our rooms. I knew Mom
Speaker 3: was getting ready for an evening out with Dad. Often,
Speaker 3: my sister and I would watch her getting ready. Lying
Speaker 3: across her bed, we watched as she dressed. The finishing
Speaker 3: touch was her ceremony that never varied. She dabbed on
Speaker 3: her special scent behind her ears and at the base
Speaker 3: of her throat. We always giggled. When she stroked that
Speaker 3: final dab onto some intimate places. Our giggles turned into
Speaker 3: full blown laughter as she said, you never know who
Speaker 3: you're going to meet, and as she switched out the door,
Speaker 3: she left a scent of shalamar in her wake. We
Speaker 3: have continued to laugh through the years. My daughter recounted
Speaker 3: the first time she was introduced to my mother's wit
Speaker 3: and wisdom at the tender age of ten, very seriously.
Speaker 3: She had watched her her grandmother going through the ritual,
Speaker 3: and it really amused the little girl. Her own daughters
Speaker 3: squealed with delight as they listened to their great grandmother's
Speaker 3: story passing down from the mother, and so it continued
Speaker 3: through the generations. Mom tried a different scent once. Her
Speaker 3: new choice was Forever Crystal, popular at the time of
Speaker 3: the TV hit show Dynasty. The beautiful Linda Evans played
Speaker 3: the part of Crystal, the second and nice wife of
Speaker 3: the oil tycoon Blake Carrington. The flowery perfume was the
Speaker 3: total opposite of Mom's classic fragrance, and because it underpowered
Speaker 3: the personality of my mother, it lasted for only a
Speaker 3: brief time. Forever Crystal was Forever no more. My parents'
Speaker 3: fiftieth wedding anniversary marked an especially special time for us.
Speaker 3: A surprise party planned by her four children was a
Speaker 3: huge and emotional success. Our friends came from Afar, as
Speaker 3: did family that had scattered to different parts of the world.
Speaker 3: We all watched in awe as Mom danced with Dad,
Speaker 3: her great and only love of her life for so
Speaker 3: many years. The singer crooned their special song, Yours, while
Speaker 3: Dad sang softly to Mom, Yours till the end of
Speaker 3: life story with tears streaming down his face. After my
Speaker 3: Dad passed, the scent of Shallamar no longer lingered. The
Speaker 3: bottle remained untouched. Now the four of us sat together
Speaker 3: surrounding our mother as she lay quietly in her hospital bed.
Speaker 3: No scarf, no lipstick, no curls. However, she was more
Speaker 3: beautiful than ever. I bent over for one last time
Speaker 3: and caught a subtle scent. I called my sister over,
Speaker 3: and she too was amazed at the fragrance. As it
Speaker 3: became stronger, My brother, returning from the coffee shop, was
Speaker 3: perplexed when he smelled the familiar but still unidentifiable scent.
Speaker 3: The nurse opened the curtain and sternly asked, who has
Speaker 3: sprayed perfume? And my sister and I glanced knowingly at
Speaker 3: each other. It was the scent of Shalamar, the scent
Speaker 3: to last through the ages, had permeated our entire surroundings.
Speaker 3: Just then, our mother made the grand, final exit, and
Speaker 3: we could almost hear her say, you never know who
Speaker 3: you're going to meet. This next story is by Kate
Speaker 3: On December tenth, two thousand and seven, the bottom fell
Speaker 3: out of my world. My mom died, a sad end
Speaker 3: to her nearly twenty year struggle with rheumatoid arthritis. Mom
Speaker 3: was smart and funny, kind and beautiful. She charmed everyone
Speaker 3: who met her, even through her illness. Worked tirelessly to
Speaker 3: find forever homes for cats and dogs. Not a week
Speaker 3: goes by that I don't meet someone who knew Mom.
Speaker 3: And they always say things like, I was just thinking
Speaker 3: about your mom the other day. Then they'll tell me
Speaker 3: the story of her thoughtfulness or compassion or humor. What
Speaker 3: a legacy she left, remembered so often, so fondly, and
Speaker 3: so well by so many. But a little over a
Speaker 3: month after we lost her, all I could think about
Speaker 3: was how much I missed her. We talked on the
Speaker 3: phone several times each day for years, saw each other
Speaker 3: several times a week, living just a few blocks apart.
Speaker 3: The hole in my life was enormous, raw and exhausting.
Speaker 3: I was lying on the living room sofa a few
Speaker 3: days after what would have been Mom's seventy third birthday.
Speaker 3: I wasn't asleep, but not fully awake either. Suddenly I
Speaker 3: felt a firm, steady pressure against my mouth. It was
Speaker 3: so strong that I could feel my lip pressing into
Speaker 3: my teeth. I opened my eyes, wondering what it was.
Speaker 3: When I reached my hand to my lips. I knew
Speaker 3: it had been Mom kissing me good night, just as
Speaker 3: she'd done when I was a girl. I smiled through
Speaker 3: my tears. I didn't tell my husband, who sat across
Speaker 3: the room. He'd say I'd been dreaming, so I kept
Speaker 3: it close to my heart and felt comforted more than
Speaker 3: words can say. The next day, my whole family gathered
Speaker 3: at my mom's house for the sad task of sorting belongings.
Speaker 3: I found myself alone in mom's bedroom with my sister
Speaker 3: in law. She's a spiritual and philosophical person, so I
Speaker 3: shared my experience with her. I know it was Mom
Speaker 3: kissing me good night, I concluded. We hugged and cried
Speaker 3: a little. Later that night, back at the home she
Speaker 3: shares with my brother, she told Tom the story. Only
Speaker 3: then did he tell her the very same thing had
Speaker 3: happened to him the same night and around the same time.
Speaker 3: He'd been in bed, somewhere between waking and sleeping when
Speaker 3: he had felt a surprisingly strong pressure on his mouth.
Speaker 3: I could really feel it pushing against my teeth, he
Speaker 3: told me when we talked. He hadn't mentioned it to
Speaker 3: anyone either, not knowing what to make of it, but
Speaker 3: I'm certain it was Mom reassuring us that she was okay,
Speaker 3: proving there's life beyond bestowing one more gesture of her
Speaker 3: unending love. In the days and years since, I've often
Speaker 3: thought of that kiss, and have selfishly wanted more, of course,
Speaker 3: but the memory never fails to soothe my grieving heart
Speaker 3: and always makes me smile. Amazing when she was here
Speaker 3: with us, Mom is amazing. Still love never dies, and
Speaker 3: that's by Kate Fellows. I often think of how difficult
Speaker 3: it must be for our loved ones to let us
Speaker 3: know that they are Oh kay. I'm sure there are
Speaker 3: different things that need to happen to get the message
Speaker 3: through strong and clear. But if we can take time
Speaker 3: to quiet down, maybe do that breathing exercise a little
Speaker 3: more often be in the present moment. You may just
Speaker 3: feel a touch from them, or they're perfume, or sometimes
Speaker 3: just a random thought comes by if sometime you were together,
Speaker 3: or sometimes just out of the blue, you think of them.
Speaker 3: They work through our feelings, they work through our imagination.
Speaker 1: They are real.
Speaker 3: Would you like to try something with me? If you're
Speaker 3: in a space that you won't be disturbed, and you're
Speaker 3: certainly not driving the car, or anything. Take just a
Speaker 3: couple of deep breaths and talk to your loved one.
Speaker 3: Ask them if they would come close to you, Picture
Speaker 3: them just a few feet away, Picture their smile, how
Speaker 3: they made you feel, and ask them to walk closer
Speaker 3: and closer, and pay attention to how that feels within you.
Speaker 3: And perhaps they give you a little kiss, or they
Speaker 3: patch you on the head, touch you on the shoulder,
Speaker 3: letting you know they have never left you and they
Speaker 3: love you. And now imagine them taking a few steps back,
Speaker 3: and how does that feel within you. The more you
Speaker 3: practice with them, the more they practice with you. As
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Speaker 3: sharing that I do. As always, our home base is
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Speaker 3: our world famous Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included and
Speaker 3: so much more. Remember I said earlier how important it
Speaker 3: is to live and experience. William shed said a ship
Speaker 3: in the harbor is safe, but that is not what
Speaker 3: ships are built for. And Mark Twain said, twenty years
Speaker 3: from now, you will be more disappointed by the things
Speaker 3: you didn't do than by the things you did do.
Speaker 3: So throw off the bow lines, sail away from safe harbor,
Speaker 3: catch the trade winds in your sales, explore, dream and discover.
Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain and you've been listening to Shades of
Speaker 3: the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
Speaker 3: Paranormal Podcast Network.
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