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Speaker 2: let's start with Chase of the Afterlife with the Santra Channaplain.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and

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Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do

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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 4: And so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Well, hello,

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Speaker 4: how have you been since our last episode together? You

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Speaker 4: may listen week after week, or you may be somebody

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Speaker 4: like me who does the binge listening or binge watching

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Speaker 4: on TV shows. Either way, I hope it has been good.

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Speaker 4: I hope there have been some miracles and smiles. I

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Speaker 4: had something good happen just a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 4: Our friend Sonia Ronaldi, who captures the images and voices

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Speaker 4: of people in the afterlife, did a presentation for us

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Speaker 4: we Don't Die dot com. And she showed about an

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Speaker 4: hour or so presentation on PowerPoint of the images that

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Speaker 4: she has been collecting from people she works with, say

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Speaker 4: the steam, and then she'll go back through it. Now

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Speaker 4: in the afterlife. There were some images, and she must

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Speaker 4: of the best reasons to believe in the afterlife. Because

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Speaker 4: of all the work she's done for over thirty some years,

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Speaker 3: very top Sonia Ranaldi's latest experiments and right there you

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Speaker 3: my best way to contact me. Someone had asked me,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: When we think of near death experiences and famous ones,

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Speaker 6: The best afterlife information you can get well in your

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Speaker 6: own Shades of the Afterlife with Sander Champlain.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.

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Speaker 3: I learned a couple of tips this past week, tips

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Speaker 3: or tricks, whatever you want to call them. One is

449
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Speaker 3: just to slow down and be it centered. I don't

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Speaker 3: want you to think I live a stress packed life,

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Speaker 3: that I'm always on edge, but there certainly is some

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Speaker 3: anxiety that goes through my life. I liked how doctor

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Speaker 3: Bruce Grayson said, we don't need to be in control

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Speaker 3: all the time. Remember the children's the nursery rhyme, Row Row,

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Speaker 3: row your boat gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily.

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Speaker 3: Life is but a dream, so it is. It's an illusion.

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Speaker 3: It's a very real one. There is pain and suffering,

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Speaker 3: but if we try to fight it and row upstream,

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Speaker 3: it's not so easy. Better to go with the current

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Speaker 3: and do the best we can. So one of the

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Speaker 3: things is a breathing technique. It will help recenter us,

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Speaker 3: it'll help us gain control, and if you do it

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Speaker 3: a few times you watch, you'll really feel better and

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Speaker 3: you'll feel less stress. So I'll explain it to you

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Speaker 3: so you don't have to hear me doing it. But

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Speaker 3: it is to breathe in deep and fill your lungs

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Speaker 3: and belly with air. And before you breathe out, you

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00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: take one more sip of air, so you breathe in deep,

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: and then you do a you know, one more that

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Speaker 3: sounds terrible. One more sip of air and hold it

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Speaker 3: and then just as slow as you can, just let

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Speaker 3: it out. See how you feel before. Do it several times.

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Speaker 3: It'll make a difference. The other good tip that I

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Speaker 3: got is about dreams. I'm a girl who has the

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Speaker 3: craziest dreams. You might too. Talking to a dream expert,

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Speaker 3: she said, if we write down our dreams when we

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Speaker 3: remember them first thing in the morning, just get them

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Speaker 3: out of your head. They don't last too long there.

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Speaker 3: Write them down, don't look at them, but after having

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Speaker 3: several dreams recorded, look to see the common denominators in

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Speaker 3: your feelings. So it's not about what happened in the dream,

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Speaker 3: it's about how you felt about them. That our subconscious

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Speaker 3: mind at night works out things, and if we can

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Speaker 3: have a heart to heart talk with ourselves, analyzing the

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Speaker 3: dreams a bit, working out the emotions that appear in

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Speaker 3: our dreams, working out why they're occurring in our life,

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Speaker 3: coming to some understanding, we have more room at night

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Speaker 3: for other kinds of dreams, and wouldn't we all like

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Speaker 3: to dream of our loved ones. May not hurt to

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Speaker 3: talk to your loved ones before you go to bed

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Speaker 3: and see if they'll come into your dreams, but I

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Speaker 3: do find and I've been doing it since last episode.

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Speaker 3: I've been writing down dreams, and my dreams have gone

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Speaker 3: from reoccurring stressful dreams to just kind of crazy nonsense dreams.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see where they go. I'll report back. Let's

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Speaker 3: get into some story time. When my little daughter Grace

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Speaker 3: passed away, I was devastated, simply beside myself with grief.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do, where to turn. I

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Speaker 3: couldn't eat or sleep. I had been through so much

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Speaker 3: and it simply was not fair. I was so angry

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Speaker 3: with God, the doctors, with myself. Everyone. Gracie had Treacher

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Speaker 3: Colin's syndrome. She had a cleft palate, was missing bones

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Speaker 3: from her cheeks and chin, and her ears were little

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00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: nubs with no outer openings. She had dealt with all

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Speaker 3: of these problems, including many surgeries to overcome them, and

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Speaker 3: like a trooper. At the age of three, she was

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Speaker 3: a happy, little blonde delight and all she wanted in

508
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Speaker 3: the world was to keep up with her five year

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Speaker 3: old sister Katie. Unfortunately, we discovered another roadblock. She had

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Speaker 3: very little enamel on her teeth and her baby teeth

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Speaker 3: began to break down. To protect them, she needed to

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Speaker 3: have her teeth capped. The only way for the dentist

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Speaker 3: to work on her was to give her gas. Otherwise

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Speaker 3: she fought like a bear and wouldn't let him work

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00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: on her mouth. The third dentist appointment, she suddenly stopped breathing.

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Speaker 3: Despite all of their efforts, they couldn't bring her back.

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Speaker 3: I was shocked. I followed the ambulance to the emergency

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Speaker 3: room at the Catholic Hospital, where they left me in

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Speaker 3: a room with her. I cradled her in my arms

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00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: and begged her to wake up, but that was not

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Speaker 3: to be. My sister came to the hospital right away,

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Speaker 3: so I wasn't alone, Thank goodness. Finally, I had to

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Speaker 3: let my baby go and walk away. I have never

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Speaker 3: ever had to do anything so hard. People quickly gathered, family, friends,

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Speaker 3: neighbors all came to offer support, but there was none

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Speaker 3: to be found. I became ill with the migraine, nausea

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Speaker 3: and vomiting. I curled up in my bed and closed

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Speaker 3: my eyes, praying and wishing I could go back in time,

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Speaker 3: Wishing I hadn't taken her to the dentist that day,

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Speaker 3: Wishing she would have been born without so many challenges,

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Speaker 3: wondering if the jeanes that caused all of her problems

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00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: came from me, but no one knew the answer. The

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00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: migraine passed, but not the grief. The funeral had to

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Speaker 3: be arranged, so many things to attend to. I couldn't eat,

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Speaker 3: I couldn't sleep. Every time I tried to sleep, I

536
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 3: would see her in that tiny white coffin and jerk awake.

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00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of anything else except my five year

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Speaker 3: old who still needed a mama. She didn't understand why

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Speaker 3: her little sister was no longer there, and wanted to

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Speaker 3: know when she was coming back. Then one night, a

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Speaker 3: miracle occurred. I had dozed off, and instead of seeing

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Speaker 3: Grace in her coffin. I found myself walking along a

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Speaker 3: wooded path. The grass was thick and green. I could

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Speaker 3: smell the flowers that speckled the ground, a soft breeze blue,

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Speaker 3: and it felt good. In the distance, I saw a tall, black,

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Speaker 3: wrought iron fence. As I approached, I saw people walking

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Speaker 3: around on the other side. It looked like they were

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Speaker 3: having a picnic. Leaned against the fence, just watching. Then

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Speaker 3: I saw a child pulling a man toward me. As

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Speaker 3: they drew closer, I recognized them. It was my father

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Speaker 3: in law and Gracie. My father in law had passed

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Speaker 3: away the month before Gracie was born. I always regretted

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Speaker 3: that he never got to see her, But now I

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00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: saw them together. They stopped about a foot away from

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Speaker 3: the fence. Gracie's face had filled out. She looked exactly

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Speaker 3: the way I pictured she would once she had had

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Speaker 3: all of her surgeries. She was a perfect little girl,

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Speaker 3: and she looked so happy. She waved me with a giggle,

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Speaker 3: and then they turned around and walked away. I immediately

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Speaker 3: awoke with the knowledge that I had just seen two angels.

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Speaker 3: My little girl was in heaven with her grandfather. She

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Speaker 3: was happy and well and I had nothing to fear

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Speaker 3: for her. Some may say I dreamed of what I

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Speaker 3: hoped to be, but I know it was no dream,

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Speaker 3: and while I still grieved, it was tempered with the

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Speaker 3: relief of knowing my baby was in good hands. And

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Speaker 3: that was by Susan Hawthorne. Here's another I never had

568
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Speaker 3: a dog, and at first was weary of surprising our

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Speaker 3: young sons with a chocolate Labrador Retriever puppy for Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Until I met that little bouncing ball of silky brown fur.

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Speaker 3: Gracie won me over instantly. She was beautiful and affectionate.

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Speaker 3: She had loads of personality that made her tons of fun,

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Speaker 3: and boy was she ever smart. Her first summer with us,

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Speaker 3: for instance, Gracie discovered that she could cool off by

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Speaker 3: lying on an air conditioning vent in the kitchen floor.

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Speaker 3: One day, I thought the first floor was too cool

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Speaker 3: compared to the rest of the house, so I closed

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00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 3: a couple of events downstairs, including one of those in

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Speaker 3: the kitchen. Gracie's routine didn't occur to me until she

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Speaker 3: walked over to the vent to lay down. Immediately she

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00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 3: noticed the lack of airflow. She stood up and then

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Speaker 3: studied the rate for a moment. I watched in wonder

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00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: as then she plunged her claws into it, pulling it

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Speaker 3: out and calmly flung it aside. She settled down onto

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Speaker 3: the open space and the floor and looked at me

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Speaker 3: with a triumphant grin. Okay, Gracie, I get it, I said,

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00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: smiling at her. From now on, I won't mess with

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Speaker 3: your vent. Every summer, that was her favorite resting place.

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00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: We all grew close to our furry family member. We

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00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 3: loved her, and she adored us in return. Gracie always

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00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 3: seemed to sense what we needed. When my husband was

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00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 3: coming home, even at unusual times, she would tell me

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Speaker 3: he was on his way by running to the window

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00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: to watch for his approach. Sure Enough, within five minutes

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00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: he'd enter our neighborhood. She knew to move slowly around

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00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: elderly grandparents. If you could use some fun, she grabbed

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00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: a frisbee ready to play. If you wanted your space,

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00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 3: she rested and awaited your call. If you were sick

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00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: or sad, she placed a huge paw on your arm

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00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: or snuggled up beside you, comforting you until you recovered.

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Speaker 3: Such a good girl, I told her, you always know

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00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: how to help. She seemed to understand everything I said.

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Speaker 3: For ten years, Gracie added to the joy of our family.

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Speaker 3: But one Sunday evening mid July, the dreaded moment arrived.

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Speaker 3: Our beloved Gracie was passing away, and we were heartbroken.

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00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: My grief was overwhelming. I cried for days, and every

607
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: time I walked into the house I ached with sorrow.

608
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: I was used to a lovable big dog with nuzzling

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Speaker 3: nose and wagging tail, running to welcome me, charging through

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Speaker 3: the kitchen, her nails clicking on the vinyl floor. As

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Speaker 3: she tried to stop, she would often slide right into

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Speaker 3: my feet. Her greetings had been clumsy and charming, hilarious

613
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: and heartwarming, all at the same time. I missed them.

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00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 3: I missed her terribly. After arriving home on a hot

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00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: afternoon a couple of weeks after she passed, I poured

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Speaker 3: a glass of iced tea and stood in the kitchen

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Speaker 3: sipping it. When I caught sight of that vent that

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Speaker 3: she'd always laid on. A tear rolled down my cheek. Oh, Gracie,

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Speaker 3: I sighed, how I wish you were still here. I

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00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 3: heard the air conditioning kick in, and then something special happened.

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Speaker 3: Tiny puffs of brown gracie fur began to rise from

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Speaker 3: the vent, and they gathered into a little ball. I watched,

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Speaker 3: mesmerized as the ball of fur became bigger and quickly

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00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: rolled across the kitchen floor toward me, mimicking the enthusiasm

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Speaker 3: that Gracie had shown before. Like her, it stopped right

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Speaker 3: at my feet. I picked up that small bunch of fluff,

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00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: and as I smoothed it between my fingers, the heartache

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00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: began to ease. Here was reassurance that Gracie's love would

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Speaker 3: always be with us. Her legacy would live on in

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Speaker 3: our hearts, in our memories, in the ways she had

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00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: helped shape our family. Message received Gracie loud and clear,

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Speaker 3: and that was by d Riley. Don't let anybody tell

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Speaker 3: you it was just a pet. If you have a

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00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: four legged friend, pass, I tell you those animals make

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00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: their way into our hearts with all that unconditional love,

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00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 3: sometimes deeper than we let any human being. The more

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00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: we love, the more it hurts. But I do think

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00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 3: our capacity to experience love is really important while we're here.

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00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: So I'm happy to report our loved ones do go on,

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00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: and so do our fine feathered, four legged, furried, etc. Friends.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to the break and then we'll be right

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Speaker 3: back with some more stories. You're listening to Shades of

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Speaker 3: the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM

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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua P. Warren

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Speaker 1: and you're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain

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Speaker 3: and these are stories that make a difference. I said

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Speaker 3: earlier that the common denominator out of everything that I

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Speaker 3: do is to help relieve pain. I don't want anyone

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Speaker 3: to discount their grief, and I do think this bears repeating,

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Speaker 3: as this is the primary reason people listen to this show,

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Speaker 3: read afterlife books, and do the research. Grief has a

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Speaker 3: mind of its own. A lot of it is in

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Speaker 3: our control and a lot of it is out of

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Speaker 3: our control. Don't be hard on yourself. If you have

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Speaker 3: not yet taken me up on my offer for a

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Speaker 3: free copy of my book, please take it. Chapter ten

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Speaker 3: is about surviving grief. It's about what we can do

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Speaker 3: to help move through the grieving process, bring back our

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Speaker 3: neurotransmitters to a healthy level again. And our neurotransmitters are

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Speaker 3: what controls all those impacts of grief, like the feelings

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Speaker 3: of sadness, of rage, of uncontrollable crying. You may have

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Speaker 3: some guilt, you may feel numb, you may feel you're

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Speaker 3: losing your memory, and so much more. So remember go

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Speaker 3: to we dootdie dot com at the bottom of the

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Speaker 3: page and to your email address. What it says. It's

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Speaker 3: the first few chapters, but it's the whole book. So

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Speaker 3: let's get back to some stories so that we know

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Speaker 3: just how close our loved ones are. This story is

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Speaker 3: by Charlene. A bottle of Shallamar perfume sat on my

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Speaker 3: mother's dresser. The art deco Shallamar bottle was filled with

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Speaker 3: an exotic fragrance, a blend of night blooming flowers, vanilla,

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Speaker 3: and mysterious musk. The blue glass stopper was its signature.

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Speaker 3: A tidy ribbon encircled the bottleneck, much like the scarves

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Speaker 3: or pearls that often graced my mother's neck. Our home

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Speaker 3: was perfumed by shalamar on a regular basis. I remember

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Speaker 3: being upstairs in my bedroom when suddenly the scent wafted

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Speaker 3: in silently but powerfully into our rooms. I knew Mom

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Speaker 3: was getting ready for an evening out with Dad. Often,

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Speaker 3: my sister and I would watch her getting ready. Lying

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Speaker 3: across her bed, we watched as she dressed. The finishing

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Speaker 3: touch was her ceremony that never varied. She dabbed on

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Speaker 3: her special scent behind her ears and at the base

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Speaker 3: of her throat. We always giggled. When she stroked that

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Speaker 3: final dab onto some intimate places. Our giggles turned into

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Speaker 3: full blown laughter as she said, you never know who

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Speaker 3: you're going to meet, and as she switched out the door,

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Speaker 3: she left a scent of shalamar in her wake. We

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Speaker 3: have continued to laugh through the years. My daughter recounted

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Speaker 3: the first time she was introduced to my mother's wit

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Speaker 3: and wisdom at the tender age of ten, very seriously.

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Speaker 3: She had watched her her grandmother going through the ritual,

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Speaker 3: and it really amused the little girl. Her own daughters

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Speaker 3: squealed with delight as they listened to their great grandmother's

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Speaker 3: story passing down from the mother, and so it continued

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Speaker 3: through the generations. Mom tried a different scent once. Her

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Speaker 3: new choice was Forever Crystal, popular at the time of

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Speaker 3: the TV hit show Dynasty. The beautiful Linda Evans played

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Speaker 3: the part of Crystal, the second and nice wife of

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Speaker 3: the oil tycoon Blake Carrington. The flowery perfume was the

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Speaker 3: total opposite of Mom's classic fragrance, and because it underpowered

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Speaker 3: the personality of my mother, it lasted for only a

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Speaker 3: brief time. Forever Crystal was Forever no more. My parents'

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Speaker 3: fiftieth wedding anniversary marked an especially special time for us.

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Speaker 3: A surprise party planned by her four children was a

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Speaker 3: huge and emotional success. Our friends came from Afar, as

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Speaker 3: did family that had scattered to different parts of the world.

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Speaker 3: We all watched in awe as Mom danced with Dad,

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Speaker 3: her great and only love of her life for so

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Speaker 3: many years. The singer crooned their special song, Yours, while

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Speaker 3: Dad sang softly to Mom, Yours till the end of

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Speaker 3: life story with tears streaming down his face. After my

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Speaker 3: Dad passed, the scent of Shallamar no longer lingered. The

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Speaker 3: bottle remained untouched. Now the four of us sat together

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Speaker 3: surrounding our mother as she lay quietly in her hospital bed.

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Speaker 3: No scarf, no lipstick, no curls. However, she was more

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Speaker 3: beautiful than ever. I bent over for one last time

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Speaker 3: and caught a subtle scent. I called my sister over,

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Speaker 3: and she too was amazed at the fragrance. As it

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Speaker 3: became stronger, My brother, returning from the coffee shop, was

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Speaker 3: perplexed when he smelled the familiar but still unidentifiable scent.

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Speaker 3: The nurse opened the curtain and sternly asked, who has

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Speaker 3: sprayed perfume? And my sister and I glanced knowingly at

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Speaker 3: each other. It was the scent of Shalamar, the scent

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Speaker 3: to last through the ages, had permeated our entire surroundings.

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Speaker 3: Just then, our mother made the grand, final exit, and

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Speaker 3: we could almost hear her say, you never know who

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Speaker 3: you're going to meet. This next story is by Kate

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Speaker 3: On December tenth, two thousand and seven, the bottom fell

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Speaker 3: out of my world. My mom died, a sad end

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Speaker 3: to her nearly twenty year struggle with rheumatoid arthritis. Mom

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Speaker 3: was smart and funny, kind and beautiful. She charmed everyone

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Speaker 3: who met her, even through her illness. Worked tirelessly to

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Speaker 3: find forever homes for cats and dogs. Not a week

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Speaker 3: goes by that I don't meet someone who knew Mom.

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Speaker 3: And they always say things like, I was just thinking

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Speaker 3: about your mom the other day. Then they'll tell me

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Speaker 3: the story of her thoughtfulness or compassion or humor. What

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Speaker 3: a legacy she left, remembered so often, so fondly, and

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Speaker 3: so well by so many. But a little over a

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Speaker 3: month after we lost her, all I could think about

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Speaker 3: was how much I missed her. We talked on the

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Speaker 3: phone several times each day for years, saw each other

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Speaker 3: several times a week, living just a few blocks apart.

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Speaker 3: The hole in my life was enormous, raw and exhausting.

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Speaker 3: I was lying on the living room sofa a few

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Speaker 3: days after what would have been Mom's seventy third birthday.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't asleep, but not fully awake either. Suddenly I

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Speaker 3: felt a firm, steady pressure against my mouth. It was

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Speaker 3: so strong that I could feel my lip pressing into

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Speaker 3: my teeth. I opened my eyes, wondering what it was.

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Speaker 3: When I reached my hand to my lips. I knew

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Speaker 3: it had been Mom kissing me good night, just as

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Speaker 3: she'd done when I was a girl. I smiled through

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Speaker 3: my tears. I didn't tell my husband, who sat across

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Speaker 3: the room. He'd say I'd been dreaming, so I kept

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Speaker 3: it close to my heart and felt comforted more than

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Speaker 3: words can say. The next day, my whole family gathered

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Speaker 3: at my mom's house for the sad task of sorting belongings.

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Speaker 3: I found myself alone in mom's bedroom with my sister

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Speaker 3: in law. She's a spiritual and philosophical person, so I

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Speaker 3: shared my experience with her. I know it was Mom

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Speaker 3: kissing me good night, I concluded. We hugged and cried

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Speaker 3: a little. Later that night, back at the home she

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Speaker 3: shares with my brother, she told Tom the story. Only

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Speaker 3: then did he tell her the very same thing had

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Speaker 3: happened to him the same night and around the same time.

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Speaker 3: He'd been in bed, somewhere between waking and sleeping when

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Speaker 3: he had felt a surprisingly strong pressure on his mouth.

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Speaker 3: I could really feel it pushing against my teeth, he

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Speaker 3: told me when we talked. He hadn't mentioned it to

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Speaker 3: anyone either, not knowing what to make of it, but

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Speaker 3: I'm certain it was Mom reassuring us that she was okay,

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Speaker 3: proving there's life beyond bestowing one more gesture of her

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Speaker 3: unending love. In the days and years since, I've often

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Speaker 3: thought of that kiss, and have selfishly wanted more, of course,

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Speaker 3: but the memory never fails to soothe my grieving heart

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Speaker 3: and always makes me smile. Amazing when she was here

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Speaker 3: with us, Mom is amazing. Still love never dies, and

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Speaker 3: that's by Kate Fellows. I often think of how difficult

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Speaker 3: it must be for our loved ones to let us

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Speaker 3: know that they are Oh kay. I'm sure there are

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Speaker 3: different things that need to happen to get the message

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Speaker 3: through strong and clear. But if we can take time

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Speaker 3: to quiet down, maybe do that breathing exercise a little

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Speaker 3: more often be in the present moment. You may just

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Speaker 3: feel a touch from them, or they're perfume, or sometimes

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Speaker 3: just a random thought comes by if sometime you were together,

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Speaker 3: or sometimes just out of the blue, you think of them.

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Speaker 3: They work through our feelings, they work through our imagination.

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Speaker 1: They are real.

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Speaker 3: Would you like to try something with me? If you're

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Speaker 3: in a space that you won't be disturbed, and you're

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Speaker 3: certainly not driving the car, or anything. Take just a

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Speaker 3: couple of deep breaths and talk to your loved one.

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Speaker 3: Ask them if they would come close to you, Picture

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Speaker 3: them just a few feet away, Picture their smile, how

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Speaker 3: they made you feel, and ask them to walk closer

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Speaker 3: and closer, and pay attention to how that feels within you.

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Speaker 3: And perhaps they give you a little kiss, or they

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Speaker 3: patch you on the head, touch you on the shoulder,

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Speaker 3: letting you know they have never left you and they

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Speaker 3: love you. And now imagine them taking a few steps back,

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Speaker 3: and how does that feel within you. The more you

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Speaker 3: I told you earlier, if you'd like to support my

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Speaker 3: the rest of the world. This show is hosted by iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 3: So just go to patreon dot com type in Sandra

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Speaker 3: Champlain if you would like to support the research and

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Speaker 3: sharing that I do. As always, our home base is

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Speaker 3: our world famous Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included and

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Speaker 3: so much more. Remember I said earlier how important it

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Speaker 3: is to live and experience. William shed said a ship

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Speaker 3: in the harbor is safe, but that is not what

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Speaker 3: ships are built for. And Mark Twain said, twenty years

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Speaker 3: from now, you will be more disappointed by the things

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Speaker 3: you didn't do than by the things you did do.

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Speaker 3: So throw off the bow lines, sail away from safe harbor,

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Speaker 3: catch the trade winds in your sales, explore, dream and discover.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain and you've been listening to Shades of

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Speaker 3: the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM

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Speaker 3: Paranormal Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: And if you liked this episode of Shades of the Afterlife,

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