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Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,

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Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear.

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Speaker 2: Listening toast, you can't predict anything presented by First Light,

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Speaker 2: creating proven versatile hunting apparel from Marino bass layers to

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Speaker 1: For every hunt, First Light, Go farther, stay longer. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're recording in Seth's trashed out. A frame is trashed out, Moldy, Alaska.

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Speaker 1: A frame which is looking really good. What's coming a

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Speaker 1: long way? Looking really good? The porch is still gone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no porch. The porch fell off.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a nice touch though, because you know

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Speaker 3: those endless pools.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's like an infinity It's like an infinity house.

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Speaker 5: When the tide is up and you sit where Chester is,

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Speaker 5: it's an infinity house. You cannot see land in between

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Speaker 5: the front windows.

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Speaker 1: And the and the water. It's amazing.

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Speaker 6: So we're looking at two big sliding glass doors at

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Speaker 6: the ocean.

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Speaker 1: When Seth bought his southeast last gay frame, I think

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Speaker 1: had you bought it? When I notified that your porch

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Speaker 1: was gone? Oh yeah, yeah, I came up and I

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Speaker 1: seth recollexes. I don't recollect. Yeah, I'll tell a story.

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Speaker 7: Kay.

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Speaker 5: We we hadn't as as the crew that bought this place.

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Speaker 5: We hadn't been up here all together yet. I was

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Speaker 5: the only one that had seen this place. Everyone else

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Speaker 5: bought Sight Unseen. But you came up last spring to

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Speaker 5: bear Hunt and I get a phone call from you

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Speaker 5: and you say I have good news and I have

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Speaker 5: bad news. And I was like, all right, well, let's

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Speaker 5: let's hear the bad news. And he goes, your porch

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Speaker 5: fell off. It's a high Like, what do you mean

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Speaker 5: fell off? And he said it fell off, it's laying

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Speaker 5: on the ground. Said all right, well, what's the good news?

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Speaker 5: He said, the fishing has been good.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing right off top, going out of going

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Speaker 1: on a book tour with a twist, No, not really

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Speaker 1: a twist. So our first book ever for kids is

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Speaker 1: coming out, and we got some great videos coming up

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Speaker 1: to show the book. We got great videos. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like those kind of videos where you

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Speaker 1: see someone doing something in a little bits. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what to tell you call them the process videos. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: process video. So we got a process video coming up.

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Speaker 1: Making your own scaler and scaling the bluegill, all with

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Speaker 1: coming up. This will be on my Instagram at Steven

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Speaker 1: Ranella wherever. We got a process video coming up. And

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Speaker 1: make a bull gun out of nothing but stuff that

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Speaker 1: would be in any house besides a little chunk of PBC,

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Speaker 1: which is in most houses. Yeah, if you're a kid,

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, take a blow gun out of it.

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Speaker 1: Out of the wall. In my place, they used to

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Speaker 1: dig around, tear the sheet rock up. See if you

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Speaker 3: You can find up here at the shack and.

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Speaker 4: Get you get your thing.

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Speaker 1: So everything every the book has everything you need to

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Speaker 1: not everything. You still gotta love them and feed them

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Speaker 1: and everything, but has much of what you need to

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Speaker 1: raise adventurous, competent outdoor kids with a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a raw edge to them. How to build, how to

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Speaker 1: how to build bullfrog gigs. Navigation using sun, navigation using stars,

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Speaker 1: hot tips on tree climbing, emergency shelters, identifying fossils, fish gutting,

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Speaker 1: animal tracking, much more. It's a great kids activity book.

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff's little bit dangerous, so you gotta

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Speaker 1: I'll be signing first edition copies of the new book

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Speaker 1: at Shields stores. Okay, so you go to your local

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Speaker 1: a second here, and we'll do pictures and sign books. Billings.

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Speaker 1: That's Billings, Montana, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Omaha, Nebraska, Kansas City, Missouri, Dallas, Texas,

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Speaker 1: And this is it's annoying, but it's just true. You

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Speaker 1: Where do you go to get them?

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Speaker 7: It's big.

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Speaker 1: Visit them meteater dot com for tickets. So go to

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Speaker 1: They'll get their book at the store with the ticket.

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Speaker 1: You get it, and it's just the it's the cover

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Speaker 1: waiting for you. Will get your book signed. It's great.

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Speaker 1: Did you say the name of the book, Steve. I

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Speaker 1: know you've said it a lot, Clay, I know you

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Speaker 1: said it a lot. Guy's like a professional cat. Count

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Speaker 1: the Stars. Great mind that fun projects, skills and adventures

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Speaker 6: I think this would be a good book to buy

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Speaker 6: as a gift for people that have young kids for real,

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Speaker 6: like as as a friend the family that's got young

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Speaker 3: Long as it's signed to Oscar Love Steve.

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Speaker 1: I was fishing the day you were born. There you go,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave that little detail because I wasn't with

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Speaker 1: Uh oh, here here's a call to action. I need everybody.

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Speaker 1: People got to listen up. We're doing so. If you

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Speaker 1: followed our Campfire Story series Campfire Stories Close Calls, there's

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Speaker 1: the Close Calls Volume one, Close Calls Volume two. These

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Speaker 1: are audio originals we're working on running right now. And

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Speaker 1: here's what we're looking for. We're looking for people out

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Speaker 1: Let's say you were the person that found the Edmund

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Speaker 6: You your father was hunting in the nineteen nineties and

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Speaker 1: Well, see, okay, okay, a hermit, you found a little hermit.

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Speaker 1: No, he they already found him. He played guilty. OK

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Speaker 1: Yeah, find a roll for this guy. Email writer Mulders

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Speaker 6: No no, no no, like beforehand, like I don't want to

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Speaker 6: I think you know you have an opinion. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Feel free. I have a question concerning the purchase of land.

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Speaker 1: brought the nonsense corner crossing bs, which a judge is

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00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: you know that that guy's getting totally shot down. There's

442
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: just another ruling in that case, which is more to

443
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: the effect of nothing happened like nothing happened to your land.

444
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: No damage is done by corner crossers. We're gonna cover

445
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: that in greater detail as things become more clear. Anyhow,

446
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be that guy. However, I don't

447
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: know how I feel about a bunch of people parking

448
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: on my land to access to public land. Now that

449
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm typing this, I don't really know how to ask

450
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: what I want to know.

451
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 5: I think he wants to know, would you let would

452
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 5: you let people? So, here's your land to access to?

453
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeh, so here he's saying, here I am. I'm gonna

454
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: buy a chunk of private land that has access to

455
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: landlocked public land. Does he have a moral obligation to

456
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: make his house a trailhead? Well, I don't think. From

457
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: I don't think a moral obligation.

458
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 4: No.

459
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: Well, so I'm staying out of it.

460
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, from the contract, from the context that we

461
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: got he leaves in there he says mostly landlocked. So

462
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: if if it's truly landlocked, I would say, I'm all

463
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 3: about letting people access public land. I think we are

464
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: all too, So I would say you could probably work

465
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: with your work with the state and get a little

466
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: parking area or something and.

467
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Really you would do that, Chester, I don't think you

468
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: understand what's happening here?

469
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 4: What he?

470
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do?

471
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, as are you kidding me?

472
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 4: You might have just bought the best hunting property, Jess.

473
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: You're saying, you're saying that if you bought fifteen acres

474
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: of land and it gave you access to fifteen thousand

475
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: acres of landlocked and when he says mostly land, I

476
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: don't know what he means. But okay, you bought fifteen

477
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: acres in a butt's a big chunk of landlocked public

478
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: you're saying you would turn your fifteen acres into a

479
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: public access part. That's that is wonderful if true.

480
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, think about all this stuff we do

481
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: at Meat Eater to get access to public land, like

482
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: you put where your mouth is. Yeah, why wouldn't Why

483
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: wouldn't you if you're if we're we're the ones raising

484
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 3: money to get easements and stuff like this.

485
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: What about if you didn't work at meat Eater.

486
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: I probably I wouldn't let people access.

487
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: Real life scenario.

488
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Speaker 6: You wouldn't be quite that altruistic like in a real

489
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 6: life scenario.

490
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Speaker 3: We I'm just saying with what we're doing, right now

491
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm being certain here, Okay, Clay, Okay, with what we're

492
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: doing at meat Eater and raising all this money for

493
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: land access and stuff. Absolutely, that's fifteen thousand whatever he said,

494
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: that's a ton of hunting land that that for that

495
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: we are raising money for currently to try and like

496
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: get little easements.

497
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Speaker 1: And I like him to send me the listing. He

498
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: doesn't even give what state.

499
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Speaker 5: I was gonna say that guy, if he's ever interested

500
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 5: in selling, should send an email to cal kelb and

501
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 5: and and maybe they can work out a little land

502
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 5: access initiative deal.

503
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: There, did I say I was gonna stay out of it?

504
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: You did, Well, you can take it back. I'm taking

505
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: it back. Here's what I do. Here's what I do

506
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: if I real world scenario I bought that chunk. Real

507
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: world scenario is I wouldn't be a tight ass with

508
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: my friends and stuff, but I don't know that I

509
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: would actually turn my home into a trailhead. I would

510
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: probably be like I like to think I would be

511
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: very generous with friends and kids and neighbors and whatnot,

512
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know that I would put up a sign,

513
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: just just trying to be realistic. And I think it's

514
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: it's it's a there.

515
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Speaker 6: It could be spread out into different areas of life

516
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 6: where you have access to something good. It's like we

517
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 6: have a great elk pot roast cooking in the kitchen.

518
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 6: Are we gonna let all the strangers that want to

519
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 6: come eat dinner with us? Come eat dinner?

520
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 9: No?

521
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: Yes, are we gonna.

522
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just like there's all kinds of stuff

523
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 6: that we individually have access to that we have a

524
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 6: right to as humans, to have some access to something that's.

525
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Speaker 7: And this guy, as the most recent purchaser of land

526
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 7: adjacent to this big chunk of public it's he's under

527
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 7: no obligation to solve a problem that everybody else isn't solving. Yeah,

528
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 7: I mean he might actually he might piss off his neighbors.

529
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 7: Or he will for sure. Oh yeah, if and if

530
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 7: you really I mean, I would approach it similarly to you.

531
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Speaker 7: And if I felt really good guilty about it, I

532
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 7: would make it my life's mission to establish new access

533
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 7: to some other piece of public life someone else on

534
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 7: the other side of the way.

535
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 6: It would be the same question of if you had,

536
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 6: you know, fifteen acres of private ground. It's like Chester,

537
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 6: would you let the public public hunt, and answer would

538
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 6: be would be no.

539
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Here's Oh that's a great Let's say yeah, Chester, Let's

540
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: say you bought.

541
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: Here's the deal. Clay brought up the pot roast thing.

542
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: You know, if I'm cooking a pot roast in my

543
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: kitchen and I'm not going to go hold a sign

544
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 3: out like Steve saying hey, come and get some pot roast.

545
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: But if some guy out there rolls up on his

546
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: boat and it's raining and he's like, you guys, got

547
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: any food, I'm going to welcome in in here with

548
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: open arms and I'm going to give him some of

549
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: that pot roast. Is if I own a chunk of

550
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: private property. My father, he owns a junk of private property.

551
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 3: He doesn't have a sign out in front of it

552
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: saying come hunt. Okay, But if some guy comes over

553
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: with it compelling story.

554
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: Moldial a frame porch fell off, Yeah, it'd be generous.

555
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, our friend Carl, Carl Malcolm, that's ask my father there.

556
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 5: But on your property, my a frame in Alaska, the

557
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 5: porch fell off, I can hunt.

558
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: Sorry, go ahead.

559
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: So I I know a guy also that has an

560
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: easement through his property and he's got it on the corner.

561
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: He doesn't have a big old sign out there. People

562
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: aren't constantly people know, the people that know know, and

563
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: it's not a whole lot of people accessing that. And

564
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: also those people that access through that do all kinds

565
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: are real nice things for that guy, really like, you know,

566
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: they take care of him. So I don't think it

567
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 3: be the worst thing in the world. It's all just

568
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: depends on the situation. But we gotta we gotta put

569
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: our money where our mouth is at meat eating.

570
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 5: Back in the day, while I was still in Pennsylvania,

571
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: I was real young. The hunting property at my family owns,

572
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 5: which you got Steve Chat, you've guys seen. We used

573
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 5: to be enrolled in this program with the Game Commission

574
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 5: where they would supply trees and food, plot seed, and

575
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 5: we would plan all that stuff and then let the

576
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: public on it.

577
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: But that quickly quickly ended, did it? Yeah?

578
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: Too much chaos?

579
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: Too much chaos.

580
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 5: You try to go up to your tree staying on

581
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 5: opening morning and someone's sitting in your stand like it

582
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 5: was just yeah too it was too much to handle,

583
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 5: and you just basically lost all your opportunity on your

584
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 5: own property.

585
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 7: You know.

586
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: But it worked for a little bit. But yeah, so

587
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: that's like.

588
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: Kind of brings this whole conversation on the sour note

589
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: just one perspective.

590
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 7: Well, I'm glad that there's chesters out there.

591
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: Maybe there are a lot of chesters out there in

592
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: the world, because I know and am the beneficiary of

593
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: many landowners who are exceedingly generous. Doug, Bubby Doug. I

594
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: can't remember to help someone like Bubby. I can't remember

595
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: with the number Bubby Doug had like forty some people

596
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: hundred dugs place last year.

597
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: He's controlled about it. You know, you got like.

598
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: Turkey a season, Turkey b season down the line, you

599
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: got like you know, youth dear rifle late this. You know,

600
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: he's measured about it and kind of has a schedule

601
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: in his head. But man, yeah, nothing wrong with being generous,

602
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: super generous. My friend Mark lives by me. Super generous

603
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: people are always out there, super good about kids. Right,

604
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: He's not in a program, he's not an access program,

605
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: no big sign out front, but like exceedingly generous to

606
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: the point where you like you're saying, to the point

607
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: where you are costing yourself opportunity because you could just

608
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: you could just be like mine, mind mine.

609
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 3: But in the in the long run that that probably

610
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: makes a guy like Doug, you know, just just a

611
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 3: happier human being because he's sharing and stuff. I don't know.

612
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 6: So could we say that this guy has a moral

613
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 6: obligation to be generous?

614
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 7: No, no, but he'd probably he'd probably feel good if

615
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 7: he was.

616
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: Okay, ready to move on?

617
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: Yep, you go, Chester, Yeah, I'm good.

618
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: So the final thing is Chester is Chester's taking the

619
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: moral high ground, doing what's right. Yeah, So we kind

620
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: of forgot about the listener. If you buy that place,

621
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: it's great. If you don't let me know where that

622
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: spot's at.

623
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: Whatever he does, you know, I'm not going to be

624
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: bummed up, you know, if he wants to keep that

625
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: to himself, just what I would do.

626
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: So over the years of over the years of hunting

627
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: coastal black bears, I have made adopted a couple of

628
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: strategies that I like. And one strategy I adopted for

629
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: hunting coastal black bears is to do it in waiters. Now,

630
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: when you're doing it in waiters, there is the obvious

631
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: safety risk. You do not want to go overboard in

632
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: deep water with good current cold water in waiters. That

633
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: is a that's just the reality. You could act like

634
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: you're going to be so diligent that you don't put

635
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: your waiters on until you're ready to get out and

636
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: go after a bear, But that's you're.

637
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 4: Not being realistic.

638
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: I leave in my waiters and I am out in

639
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: my skiff in my waiters, which many people would think

640
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: is not smart because when you go overboard, if you

641
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: hit something. And we were hanging out with the kid

642
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: last night that recently went overboard. He had a full

643
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: survival suit on, so a full Mustang suit. I'll think

644
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: about getting me one of them full Mustang suits.

645
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 6: You should do it, man. This me being up here

646
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 6: for the first time. It's striking to me. I think

647
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 6: you guys are desensitized to it. But how dangerous that, sir?

648
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 4: Oh it is.

649
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: I was talking to an uber driver in catch Can

650
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: one time and he was coastguard and we got to

651
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: talking and he had over his career, he's kind of

652
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: retired and started driving. Over his career, he had been

653
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: to many distress calls and many bodies. One that shook

654
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: him up one time is the guy had tied himself

655
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: to his skiff, tied himself to the flipped over, tied

656
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: himself to a capsized skiff, and he felt.

657
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: It was obviously so that his body would be recovered.

658
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Another time, he talked about two people had made it

659
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: to the beach and were dead leaning on a tree

660
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: in the winter.

661
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 6: What one of the first days we were out and

662
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 6: some of the bigger water, we were probably a half

663
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 6: mile from shore, maybe closer than that. And I said, Steve,

664
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 6: we have a wreck right now, and go in the water.

665
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 6: Can I make it to that shore swimming? And he

666
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 6: was like, no, probably not. And it was kind of

667
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 6: arising to me because you feel like adrenaline.

668
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: The current is so strong, dude.

669
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 6: And you'd and you'd make it, but the water's so

670
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 6: cold you'd just lock up before you got there.

671
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: When we were diving scallop, just to give you sense

672
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: of the current. So when we were diving scallops the

673
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: other day, I had a spot that I was diving

674
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: down to that I was marking because it was about

675
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: it was like at a two o'clock position, about twenty

676
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: five yards off the bottle of the boat, the boats

677
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: anchored thirty feet of water. I would dive down, hit

678
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: the bottom and then ride the current, looking so it's

679
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: an eighteen foot skiff. I'm twenty five yards up in

680
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: a one minute dive. When I pop up, I'm back

681
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: of the stern. Really weep.

682
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 6: You could have swum, you could have swam against the fins. Yeah,

683
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 6: but where you're talking about that shoreline, you're talking about

684
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 6: the current runs parallel to that short line. It just

685
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 6: takes you down theh So you would have a hard

686
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 6: time getting on an incoming tide to be a lot

687
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 6: better than an outgoing tide.

688
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, yeah, like likely likely not in

689
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: fifty degree water. I've got a little bit once we

690
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: get first without a survival colt. But we you know,

691
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: we used survival colts. But the kids were talking about

692
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: he hit a he hit a it's crazy, he hit

693
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: a tree caught this. No, he had a tree that

694
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: had snapped off on top and the tree was oriented

695
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: vertically in the water, root wad and everything. Wow, And

696
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: the end of the tree was was bobbing up and

697
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: down at the surface. The tree was standing upright in

698
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: the water. Huh, So you would have seen nothing. No,

699
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: gashed a hole in his thing. He was able to

700
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: swim to the beach his march, but it was like

701
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: a warm sunny day. He gashed a hole in his boat,

702
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: had a full on, full survival suit, made it to

703
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: the beach, walked up to Loggin Road. I wouldn't have

704
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: known what a Mustang suit was.

705
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 6: So these survival coats are basically it's like a jacket

706
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 6: with a zipper and pockets, but it's a it's a

707
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 6: flotation device.

708
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mustang is like the maker. It's a brand. Yeah,

709
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: Mustang is a leading maker of survival coats. Yeah, there

710
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: are other brands.

711
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

712
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 7: And it floats you in, insulates you.

713
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

714
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Picture of life jacket with a with sleeves.

715
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

716
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 6: Hey, when we get when we get more, I don't

717
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 6: want to give away the bear stuff.

718
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: Full of a current.

719
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 6: I've got a current thing about the about being having

720
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 6: a sense of being pulled out.

721
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: Oh so point being before I was before I got

722
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: distracted there. What I was getting at was it's dangerous

723
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: riding around a skiffing your waiters.

724
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just bear it a mine.

725
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: Where are you're maybe put your Mustang colde on so

726
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: you counteract, Wait, just your legs and fall off.

727
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 4: Uh so.

728
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: Oh it's so good for like it's just a great

729
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: way to cause you. You don't have to think about

730
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: where you're getting out. You can't shoot from a boat.

731
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: I remember one time we lost the bear. The bear

732
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: was going on the beach and went up in the timber.

733
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: We pulled up and my buddy Ryannie. We pulled up

734
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I'm gonna wail on a predator call.

735
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: And I started wailing on that predator call. And that

736
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: bear looked like I was going to get in the

737
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: boat with us when he come back out of the timber.

738
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: But we're pull pulled up on a steep thing, and

739
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: I said, you can't shoot from a boat.

740
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: So I was like, get out of the boat. Get

741
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 4: out of the boat so he could shoot it.

742
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: It's too deep. One who cares? But two had you

743
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: had waiters on, whoop, let's jump right in. Yeah, So

744
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: I like to hunt in waiters. One day, I was

745
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: sitting there years ago, and I never took action on it.

746
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: It's just one of those thought I had. I was

747
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: looking at some bear or another and I was thinking, man,

748
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: if I had my wet suit, I would just swim

749
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: up to that bear. No problem in a wet suit.

750
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: He would just think it was a seal coming. I

751
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: mentioned this to Clay, and Clay said, I'm gonna do

752
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: that with my boat. That's about the way it happened.

753
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: So Clay got himself a seven mil wet suit, five

754
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: mil with a one liner. Is that what you did? Yeah,

755
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: Our friends over at rob Allen made him a suit.

756
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: Did you do the custom measurements? Yeah, forty two measurements. Man,

757
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: it gets real personal.

758
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 6: That she measurements of every circumference.

759
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: On my body.

760
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: I did the same thing.

761
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: So got a five mil suit with a one mill liner,

762
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: and bought a little teeny pool toy boogie board.

763
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 6: I hate it, like a like a thirty inch very

764
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 6: cheap fore and made, you know, a little boogie board

765
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 6: from some box store, you know, And it had all

766
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: the beach colors on top, and it was kind of

767
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 6: like a scaly black on the bottom. And I spray

768
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 6: painted a little camo on top because that's what my

769
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 6: bow floated on. So I drilled two holes up through

770
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 6: the it was just dirofoam and put a piece of

771
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 6: hay string through the holes and I would do just

772
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 6: like a little slip knot over the handle of the

773
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 6: bow to sinch it down.

774
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: I feel you should have gone bellcross trap.

775
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, it probably would have been better, Probably would have

776
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 6: been better painted a seal's face on the front. Yeah, yeah,

777
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 6: we're seeing a lot of seals up here. Hey, can

778
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 6: I can I describe the land features of why this

779
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 6: is significant?

780
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: Oh? Why it matters?

781
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 6: I mean because I don't think it would be. It

782
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 6: wasn't evident to me here in you tell why this

783
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 6: would be effective. It was actually more effective than I

784
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 6: thought it would be. I was envisioning a lot of

785
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 6: like long straight shorelines. Yeah, that's what you think when

786
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 6: you think shorelines, But this is not that this. There

787
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 6: are uncountable islands and just much variation.

788
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 4: And in the swim around to a little day island.

789
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: Hop.

790
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we watched multiple bears swim.

791
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 7: And there aren't too many. There aren't too many big

792
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 7: flats on the on the coastline. I mean, there's some

793
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 7: grass flats tucked away here.

794
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: And let me get let me go, let me give

795
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: another little detail. Got two kinds of black bears. You

796
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: got black bears eating beech ry, eating grass grass. You

797
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: got black bears eating muscles and crabs on a low tide,

798
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, and the and the and like the waiter

799
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: strategy is good for either. But we're talking about we're

800
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: talking about bears that are in the rocks.

801
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 6: So the first day that I was here, we weren't

802
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 6: quite ready to commit. Randall was hunting and that y'all

803
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 6: had an incredible hunt, and I was in my waiters.

804
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Randall kills a.

805
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 6: Bear, and we can talk about that later. I got

806
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 6: in and we saw another bear. Well, we already had

807
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 6: Randall's bear in the boat. And I'm wearing waiters and

808
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 6: I stalk a bear and I'm bow hunting. I stalk

809
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 6: a bear along the edge, along the edge, trying to

810
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 6: go to a bear, and everything was good until I

811
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 6: got to a big rock that jetted out into the

812
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 6: water where it was real deep out on the edge

813
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 6: of the rock, and so I couldn't get around it

814
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 6: with my waiters without you know, getting way over them.

815
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 6: And so the waiters are good to a point, like

816
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 6: most of the time a waiter would get you. And

817
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 6: the thing about and this is if you're trying to

818
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 6: get within bow range of these bears, you're not walking

819
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 6: on soft ground.

820
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: You're walking on rocks.

821
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 4: And it's loud in barnacles.

822
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 6: Barnacles muscles very loud. So if you have waiters or

823
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 6: in you know, a wetsuit. The water is silent. There

824
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 6: was a bear the first day. That bear was feeding

825
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 6: on muscles and I was in the water with my waiters.

826
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: Can I interject from here, because it is the detail

827
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: on express It's a steep bank and trees will fall

828
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: over and will fall into the ocean and muscles blue muscles,

829
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: which I'll point out as a circumpolar species, meaning there's

830
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: a band of latitude. There's a latitude band and that

831
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: the blue muscle, same species occurs all the way around

832
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: the globe. So when you go into a restaurant and

833
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: order muscles, that's what we're talking about. But they they

834
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: attached to pretty much anything. There's a tree that fell

835
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: over into the ocean and its limbs over the years

836
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: have become seeded with muscles. At high tide. At high

837
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: tide the tide goes out, we watch a bear come

838
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: under the tree and it's like he's pulling apples out

839
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: of a tree, but he's feeding on muscles over his head,

840
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: draped off tree limbs. Very cool.

841
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: Two different times Randall's bear was doing that when we

842
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 4: hit the beach, two different times.

843
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: Very These these bears are crunching these muscles.

844
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 6: Muscles, Yeah, they're they're like crunching them like acorns.

845
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 7: And they'll just sit down acres acrens.

846
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: That'd be a good show.

847
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 5: They'll hunker down, just the lay on the beach and

848
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: just eat all the muscles around them.

849
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: So, okay, I got a quick question about the South.

850
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: Seems relevant, totally unrelevant. I just noticed in the South,

851
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: you guys get two syllables out of the word hen.

852
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 4: Hen him.

853
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: They get two syllables out on a bunch of bears.

854
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 6: Hen. I don't know if I do that or not.

855
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 6: Some people do now, Ben, Ben and Ben.

856
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, never mind the bears.

857
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 6: So the bears are feeding on these rocky outcroppings, and

858
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 6: there's a lot of little channels, and we decided with

859
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 6: the wet suit, you would be uninhibited in the water.

860
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 6: And we felt like that you we one thing that

861
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 6: we thought.

862
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: I got to come clean about. To go on though, Well,

863
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: go ahead. My case scenario had a lot to do

864
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: with rifle hunting, in that you can't shoot from a boat,

865
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: and the big boys don't like the sound of motors.

866
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: They learn what a motor sounds like, they don't like it.

867
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: Of course, there's a point at which you bear don't

868
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: want to hear outboard. My you use case scenario was

869
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: different than yours. Mine was how to extremely quietly get

870
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: to a point or island or whatever. How to extremely

871
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: quietly get to something where you could shoot from a

872
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: ways off. I wasn't picturing ass getting in there and

873
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: shaking hands with them like you were doing. Oh really,

874
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: what you thought I was going to get to the land? Stop?

875
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: No?

876
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: No, My original concept was wasn't shaking hands with them.

877
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: My original thing was just getting You could just slip

878
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: out of your boat instead of trying to beat your boat, right,

879
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: you could anchor and just slip out of your boat. Yeah, yeah, right.

880
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like like following them in.

881
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: A wetsuit like you were doing. Yeah.

882
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about that so much as I was thinking, like, man,

883
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: if I could get to that little point, all, yeah,

884
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: do that is, wait for him to get clear one

885
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: hundred yards, two hundred yards whatever the hell?

886
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

887
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: It wasn't quite like how you put it to use,

888
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: like you were putting the use like up close and personal.

889
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but go on.

890
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 6: Well, it ended up being incredibly effective, and the wet

891
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 6: suit thing was kind of interesting for me. This first

892
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 6: time I've had a wet suit and put it on,

893
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 6: and I was uncertain how cold this water would be,

894
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 6: how difficult it would be.

895
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: The first time you.

896
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 3: Put that wetsuit on, you had a slight panic.

897
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 6: Oh, man, no doubt I did. I got this wet

898
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 6: suit and I was sent this lubrication, which was a

899
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 6: powdered lubrication, and I thought I didn't read the instructions

900
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 6: on it. I thought it was like talcum powder. Like, Okay,

901
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 6: you put this wetsuit on with.

902
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: This dry how would you not? It was dumb, man.

903
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: There's no excuse a thing I'd find Like you're here,

904
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: we go just at it seems like you're just ambivalence

905
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: to directions. I'm guilty. I'm guilty, man, I'm guilty. I'm

906
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: just the fact you'd get a powder you've never seen

907
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: before and put it on your body. How do you

908
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: use it?

909
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: What it is?

910
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: Well, Clay gets a prescription from the drug store. He

911
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: probably takes the paper and just throws it out. Don't

912
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: tell me how to take this medicine out. I'm guilty.

913
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: I'm jake this medicine. How I please and when I please?

914
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: And so I'm putting this wetsuit.

915
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 6: On and I get it over my head and I'm like, man,

916
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 6: this is hard. And I finally get both my arms

917
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 6: in it and I got my head is choking me

918
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 6: to death, and I literally start to have a panic

919
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 6: attack because I can't get it off, and I call

920
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 6: my wife and I'm like, I'm like pulling it out

921
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 6: for my neck, and I say, when I go down

922
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 6: like trying to get under it, just pull it off

923
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 6: my back as hard as I was, literally like my

924
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 6: heart was pounded.

925
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: She thought I was going to pass out.

926
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 4: It was.

927
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 6: It was bad, and I was slightly and I didn't

928
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 6: have time to it was like the day before we came,

929
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 6: you know, and so I didn't put it on until

930
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 6: the first day. And actually that first day when it

931
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 6: was choking up on me, even while we were in

932
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 6: the boat, I was it made me like physically nervous

933
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 6: having that thing on.

934
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of brought you back to you, Yeah,

935
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 3: I was.

936
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 6: I was like pulling it down and I actually was like, man,

937
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 6: I wonder if I can do this or not. And

938
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 6: then finally, after a while, you just get used to it.

939
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 6: The wet suit was an incredible way to get get

940
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 6: close to these bears. And we had multiple wet suit stalks.

941
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 6: So what happens is you see a bear from a

942
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 6: long ways away and then you bowte in and get

943
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 6: to a place where they can't see you, get out

944
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 6: of the boat, and then and me and dirt. Dirt

945
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 6: was when they people would be able to see this.

946
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: At some point.

947
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 6: He was filling with an underwater camera and a GoPro

948
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 6: and some stuff, and we would we would swim, usually

949
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 6: staying close to the shore and try to come in

950
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 6: down wind to the bear, which we thought that being

951
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 6: under almost underwater would would cover our sin.

952
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: We had bears smell us if you did mask and

953
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: snorkel not gonna smell you, but don't smell your breath.

954
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's all they were smelling anyway. And

955
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: you put some tic TACs down that snorkel.

956
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 4: Bears love tic tacks.

957
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: No, So I mean, do you want me to tell

958
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: when we finally killed the bear?

959
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 4: Sure?

960
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to add more color in here,

961
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: but no, no, let's go.

962
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: I thought that when when I first heard you were

963
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 3: going to have a wet suit, a boogie board with

964
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: your bow on it in salt water. You've never been

965
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: in a wet suit. You're from Arkansas. I was like, yeah, that.

966
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: Seth had the best observation. We were talking about I'm

967
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: wrong how bears comprehend stuff, and he said, the last

968
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: thing they'll be thinking, is it some hillbilly mark. That

969
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: is the last thing.

970
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 6: They're like, maybe some yuppie from California not thinking this. Yes,

971
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 6: there were a lot of There were a lot of variables,

972
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 6: the worst cases of California.

973
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: There are a lot of variables.

974
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 6: But these bears, I knew from Steve's observations of being

975
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 6: in the water with him that they were gonna be

976
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 6: pretty much oblivious to things coming from the water. And

977
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 6: that's like deep biology, that there's just not danger on

978
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 6: the water. They hear a sound on the shore, they

979
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 6: hear a rock pop on the shore, they're gonna be gone.

980
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 6: They're going to be alert. But from the water, we

981
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 6: knew that they weren't going to be that alert. And

982
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 6: there literally are seals swimming around all over the place,

983
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 6: and here we are in these black wet suits, camo wetsuits,

984
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 6: you know, with stuff pulled up over our head. We

985
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 6: look like seals. But you guys needed to do I

986
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 6: think that.

987
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: Like a little face paint, oh, might have made a

988
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: big difference. It is because the white face comes very pronounced,

989
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: a little grease on your face. You might even look

990
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: like totally you might have got it. We we I

991
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: tell you. I saw where a black bear killed a

992
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: seal here.

993
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

994
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they when the salmon are in. This is

995
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: quite a ways out from here, but when the salmon

996
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: are in, the seals will go right up in the creeks.

997
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: And my theory is some bear standing there sleeping in

998
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: the grass whatever. And also it's like, you gotta be

999
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: kidding me, that's a seal and he had skinned that seal.

1000
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: It was just the seals hide. Wow, he emptied it

1001
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: out like a sack.

1002
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: Didn't like dine.

1003
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 6: I was envisioning a bear like trying to get in

1004
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 6: the water. You know, you think of all the scenarios.

1005
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 6: I just felt like you could get away from a

1006
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 6: bear in the water. I don't think they're that agile

1007
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 6: in the water.

1008
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 4: They don't hesitate to swim. Man.

1009
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 6: Two different times when we were out in a channel,

1010
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 6: we were in this like cluster of islands and two

1011
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 6: kind of peninsulas that came together, and so there's like

1012
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 6: a braid of channels. Two different times we were in

1013
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 6: the water with a bear that was swimming across the channel.

1014
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 6: You know, a couple, you know, two hundred yards from us,

1015
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 6: but they looked like a beaver from water level. Looked

1016
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 6: like a beaver going across the water, and then it'd

1017
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 6: get out and it'd be this bear.

1018
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, So.

1019
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 6: When we finally I think we've covered all the bases

1020
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 6: here of why we were doing it.

1021
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: Scent sound getting close.

1022
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 6: I mean I had shots at thirty and forty yards

1023
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 6: all day stalking on the land, and that's a good shot.

1024
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 6: I mean, a guy that's pretty decent with the bow

1025
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 6: can take that shot. But I've also bow hundred enough

1026
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 6: to know that thirty plus yards with a bow on

1027
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 6: any animal, maybe other than an elk that has a

1028
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 6: kills on the size of a beach ball, there's just

1029
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 6: a lot that can happen, and I.

1030
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: Like to get inside. I want to be I wanted

1031
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: to be twenty yards.

1032
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: From a bear. I think it's important to note here

1033
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 3: you want to put a kill shot on those things

1034
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 3: because if they go up into that thick, wet, nasty stuff.

1035
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: It is the worst stuff in the world to try

1036
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: to blood trail on. Yeah, it's just moss. Moss, not

1037
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: like a forest floor of like fallen leaves.

1038
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.

1039
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: It's it's heavily vegetated moss that doesn't show blood good.

1040
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, And depending on where the tide's at, they have

1041
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 7: like ten yards and then they're just disappeared.

1042
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, So I didn't want to take a marginal shot.

1043
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 6: I had some shots at other bears at forty ish

1044
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 6: without the wet suit, and I didn't. I just was like, man,

1045
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 6: I don't want to take it. And h and again

1046
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 6: I can hit a target all day at forty. But

1047
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 6: the here's my tide, my tide story. I don't even

1048
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 6: think I told you this. Dirt and I were on

1049
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 6: a small island with a channel that at low tide

1050
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 6: was probably forty yards wide.

1051
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: To get to the main part of land.

1052
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 6: And we see this bear like two hundred yards away

1053
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 6: on the shore from our island, and we're gonna swim

1054
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 6: this channel, this forty yard channel as the tide's coming out,

1055
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 6: it's starting to get low tide, and the wind's blowing

1056
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 6: pretty good, and we don't have flippers on because we've

1057
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 6: decided that we want to be more mote. We've got

1058
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 6: crocs over the feet of our wet suit and no snorkel,

1059
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 6: no goggles or anything, and I'm pulling the.

1060
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 4: Boogie board and.

1061
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 6: We dive off this kind of like deep front, like

1062
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 6: there's not a bottom, like you pretty much just jump

1063
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 6: off the edge of a rock almost into water you

1064
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 6: can't touch in and man, I got about four you know,

1065
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 6: just doggy paddle strokes out there, and it kind of

1066
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 6: starts taking you like out to sea.

1067
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it felt like.

1068
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 6: It really wasn't that dramatic, But to me, I was

1069
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 6: very cognizant that I am not going in the direction

1070
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 6: I'm swimming, and I thought, dang, this isn't gonna be cool.

1071
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: But it's like a full on river basically.

1072
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1073
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 6: But by the time that little section was short though,

1074
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 6: it was like ten yards. And then once I got

1075
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 6: out in the middle, it kind of calmed down and

1076
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 6: I could actually swim the direction I was wanting to go,

1077
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 6: but the bear was two hundred yards away around the corner.

1078
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 6: We get out into the middle of the channel dirt

1079
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 6: and I are just like floating, just like bobbing, and

1080
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 6: here comes the bear. We didn't know it was going

1081
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 6: to come our way. It comes around the corner and

1082
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 6: we're in clear view of this bear on the shore

1083
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 6: and it never even looks at us.

1084
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: So why you need a snorkel mask though too.

1085
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 6: The wind's good though, and but now we float down

1086
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 6: and just kind of slow swim watching the bear. I mean,

1087
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 6: it's like within bow range of us now, and there's

1088
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 6: just it was a perfect scenario because there was a

1089
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 6: rock about half as big as a car that was

1090
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 6: right on the edge. I get in behind that rock

1091
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 6: and I didn't even have my release on yet. Untie

1092
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 6: the bow, Untie the haystring, put my put my release on,

1093
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 6: and the bear was so close. I didn't even use

1094
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 6: my rangefinder. I didn't take it. I had a rangefinder

1095
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 6: clipped onto the hay string. And man, if there's ever

1096
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 6: a Vortex commercial, it's this.

1097
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 4: Man.

1098
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 6: I was using the Vortex rangefinder that more than once.

1099
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 6: I saw it bobbing from the end of that boogie

1100
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 6: board down in the salt water.

1101
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: It looked like a halibit jig bouncing.

1102
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 3: Hanging off that bailer twine.

1103
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I mean, and I would scoop it up

1104
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 6: and I would range to see.

1105
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: If it still works.

1106
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 6: She still works, and I just put it back on

1107
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 6: that boogie board and I'm serious it works today. I

1108
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 6: checked it last night before I put it up, like, yeah,

1109
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 6: she works. And anyway, I didn't even take the range finder,

1110
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 6: got the bow and then we ducked back into the

1111
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 6: water to about chest deep water. It kind of bent

1112
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 6: down and just started going towards the bear, and the

1113
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 6: bear was kind of in a cluster of rocks. I

1114
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 6: estimated I was twelve yards from the bear and I

1115
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 6: stood up and all I had to do was being

1116
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 6: water deep enough so that a full drawed my bottom

1117
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 6: cam didn't slap the water, you know, yep. So I

1118
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 6: I just stood up and the winds in my face.

1119
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 6: The bear never sees us, and I'm in you know,

1120
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 6: about five deep waste deep water and shoot the bear.

1121
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 6: Get a great shot the bear. You'll see it on

1122
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 6: the video. The bear jumps like a marlin coming out

1123
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 6: of the water.

1124
01:02:59,080 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 4: For real.

1125
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 6: The entry hole was on the was on the right

1126
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 6: side of the bear, and the bear spun so fast

1127
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 6: that I watched the arrow exit.

1128
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: Like almost towards me.

1129
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 6: And then the bear runs maximum of fifteen yards and

1130
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 6: rolls down to the edge of the water, and it

1131
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 6: wasn't a big bear. It was just you know, it

1132
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 6: was just a bear that did it, did things right.

1133
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 6: I really feel like you could probably target a big

1134
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 6: bear and do good if you if I just wanted

1135
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 6: like proof of concept, and.

1136
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: There Randall got a big old boar.

1137
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah he did.

1138
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is Steve's idea one hundred percent.

1139
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 4: Well I had.

1140
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean I'm mostly joking. I mean I I my

1141
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: idea up to the point that I never did.

1142
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 6: It well, But I told, I told, it's more like,

1143
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 6: you know what a fella could do. This is it

1144
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 6: was a It was a perfect merger because I would

1145
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 6: have never had even the thought cross my mind because

1146
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 6: I didn't have the spear fishing tool skill set, Like

1147
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 6: I would have never gone out on my own and

1148
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 6: got a wet suit and drew a pow tag.

1149
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 7: You never dreamed of getting in that water.

1150
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't have known that you could have gotten

1151
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 6: that water and not been eaten by a killer whale

1152
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 6: like I. But so your your confidence in the wet suit,

1153
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 6: and and then just me loving bear hunting and just

1154
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 6: wanting to do something different.

1155
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a perfect merger well, hunting

1156
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: c cucumbers in wet suits. You know, you're working all

1157
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: the edges, and you know, I mean, so you learn

1158
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: just how nicely you can get along and how like

1159
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, just how you're not thinking about stealth, but

1160
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: just how unbelievably stealthy it is.

1161
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,959
Speaker 4: It is just to be down in the water working

1162
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 4: along the edge.

1163
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know if a past experience, the way

1164
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: in which uh, stuff floating just isn't as of a

1165
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: high concern. They're they're just not quiet. Stuff floating is

1166
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: not as alarming to them as is other stuff. Now

1167
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: I say that, and just to really quickly touch on it,

1168
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: we we spooked Randalls bear.

1169
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 4: Uh approaching it. No motor running, yep, but yeah.

1170
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: It was fid we got it was wide open and

1171
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: it was only one what did I say, it was

1172
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: one ninety It spooked one hundred ninety.

1173
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 7: Yards, Yeah, something like that, and we were in the

1174
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 7: canoe paddling.

1175
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: Towards it, and at that point I knew we desperately

1176
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: wanted to get it.

1177
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we we we spotted him from the skiff

1178
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 7: out in the middle of the channel, and we're curious

1179
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 7: enough to want to get a better look at him,

1180
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 7: and ye.

1181
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: See, I can't tell what I'm looking at tom close. Yeah, well,

1182
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: and he was tough.

1183
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 7: When we got about halfway from the skiff to the

1184
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 7: to the shore, and he was he had kind of

1185
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 7: moved so he was sitting on his haunches and looked

1186
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 7: up at us, and it was like, right, then, that's

1187
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 7: a bear that we're really sit in.

1188
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: I was looking at one.

1189
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: Well, I was looking at one one time, and I'm

1190
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: still like looking at it, trying to assess. And it

1191
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: was enough that I wanted to look at it more.

1192
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: But I hadn't said shoot in a friend of mine

1193
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: shot and it wasn't a big one.

1194
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 4: He got mad at me.

1195
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: But I was like, I never said shoot, I'm still looking.

1196
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1197
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: In fact, when they're going off about deaf and meeks,

1198
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: that wasn't prepared for it. But it's like, yeah, I

1199
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: gotta look at him well, and we I mean I

1200
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: got to look at him.

1201
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: From a couple hundred yards away as well.

1202
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 7: Like you know, the first night for a while we

1203
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 7: saw three.

1204
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 4: That all.

1205
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 7: You know, each one of those I couldn't have said

1206
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 7: one way or the other.

1207
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: I got it.

1208
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're in a boat moving around yeah, you're.

1209
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 7: I mean, even even with your binoculars up, you know,

1210
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 7: it's so hard to get a clear picture of him.

1211
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 7: And they're moving until they sit down. And they all

1212
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 7: look pretty big when they're sitting there, squatted over eating muscles,

1213
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 7: you know, just because of the way that their body

1214
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 7: arranges itself. But when that one, he kind of turned

1215
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 7: his head and looked straight at us, and.

1216
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: Then I can see the configuration of its.

1217
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 7: Ear, its ears stickings. I was, I turned around the

1218
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 7: canoe and we're both nodding at each other.

1219
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like one And people say, this isn't that. I

1220
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: don't around here, I don't around here. I find this

1221
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: to be true. Ears off to the side of the head,

1222
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: the ears that looks small, peeled off to the side

1223
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: of the head is a big bear. Yeah, yous look

1224
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: pointy on top of the head is not.

1225
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 6: And let me I gotta say what I want to

1226
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 6: say something about that, because that's the thing that people

1227
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 6: in general say about bears across North America. It's the ears.

1228
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 6: And you're one hundred percent right. I mean here and

1229
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 6: in a lot of places that is one hundred percent true.

1230
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 6: But where I hunt in in the South, in Arkansas,

1231
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 6: and Oklahoma. The biggest bear I've ever killed my life

1232
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 6: had five inches of ear sticking off the top of

1233
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 6: his head.

1234
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean straight off the top. I mean, it's just

1235
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 1: a difference. I don't Yeah, I'm not saying it's always true.

1236
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: But if all the things people are looking for, of

1237
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: all the things you're looking at, it winds up being, uh,

1238
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: it's an easy one. And then the other thing is

1239
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: like that little triangle. Like if you go make a lot,

1240
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: make a triangle where the top what do you call

1241
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: the parts of a triangle? The top line of the

1242
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: triangle is a line from base the ear to base

1243
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: the ear, and then the point of that triangle is

1244
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: the end of its nose. You want where it's not

1245
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: pizza shaped. If that triangle is pizza shaped, it's small.

1246
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: If that triangle winds up being what's kind of over

1247
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: all the parts and sides equilateral, all the sides are

1248
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: the same. If it's that kind of triangle, it's probably big. Yeah,

1249
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: that's that's a good Anyways, he looked at us, and

1250
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: I was like, god dah when he got it and

1251
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: ran off. But one in I don't know what percent

1252
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: we got out to the beach, Randall had the Phelps

1253
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: predator called the fahn, and we talked about that Phelps

1254
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: call that one. This is president.

1255
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 6: He's got several. He's got a he's got a cub

1256
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 6: in distress.

1257
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 4: Call.

1258
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: That's the one.

1259
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 6: I have predator cub distress. Yeah, and then maybe a

1260
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 6: fawn jack.

1261
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: I think, no, no, once you have the cub distress,

1262
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: I think it's the fawn.

1263
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 4: The fawn. Yeah, either way. One in Well, let me

1264
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 4: tell the story.

1265
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: One time I was looking at a black brown and

1266
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: grass flat and it vanished somewhere out in the grass flat,

1267
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: or I thought went in the way.

1268
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 4: I couldn't find it.

1269
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: I knew it was on a grass flat. I get

1270
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: to the grass flat, bears not there. I guess set

1271
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: up where I got a good commanding view, and I

1272
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: start weighling on the fawn distress. To my surprise, out

1273
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: of the woods comes a black tail dough out of

1274
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: the chimber across. He comes across the whole grass flat,

1275
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: gets up to me, stomping, mad blowing, all pissed off,

1276
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: and goes back and I'm like, well, that amount of

1277
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: ruckus absolutely would have lured the bear in if he

1278
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: was here. I stand up and move forward. And that

1279
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: thing is right in front of me, still feeding on grass,

1280
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: and a little cut didn't care me blowing that call,

1281
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: the dope coming out of the woods, running around all

1282
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: pissed off, and that bear never stopped feeding on grass.

1283
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: That's how little it cared. And then the next one

1284
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: will try to get in the boat with you. Yeah,

1285
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: I think it's like one in ten, two and ten.

1286
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1287
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not one and two.

1288
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 4: No, it ain't one and three. No, well at it

1289
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 4: ain't one.

1290
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: It's like some number really care yea, and some number

1291
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: don't care.

1292
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 7: And at that point we couldn't see the bear. We

1293
01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 7: didn't have anything to lose.

1294
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 4: And it's smoked it.

1295
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he smooked it visually, not smell had the window.

1296
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 7: No, he was looking over he kept glancing back over

1297
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 7: his shoulders. Sam a couple quick steps up and just

1298
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 7: disappeared into the trees.

1299
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: And and meanwhile we got some folks in the boats

1300
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 3: watching all of this, myself, Clay, Sam, who else, Chris

1301
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: or something or no, you guys are. But I was like, there,

1302
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 3: I saw the bear spook and I even said, I

1303
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 3: was like, that thing's not coming back. Little did I know,

1304
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 3: little did I know you guys had that call.

1305
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,799
Speaker 6: It was awesome from our v We were quarter mile away,

1306
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 6: basically out in the middle of this this inlet, and

1307
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 6: I got my glass up and I think it's a

1308
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 6: done deal, and you are about to come.

1309
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 1: Back, and I hear the squall and I'm like, oh,

1310
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 1: they're predatorcaling.

1311
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 6: And man, that bear was. We could see this whole

1312
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 6: cross section of this thing shoreline, you know, y'all bank

1313
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 6: the short line, and where the bear went in the woods.

1314
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: And he went in the woods.

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01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 6: Probably twenty five thirty yards and probably was just sitting

1316
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 6: there because very quickly after you started blowing, I saw

1317
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 6: black moving through the woods, coming towards you.

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01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 7: And the bow of our canoe was tucked up against

1319
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 7: this hump of rock. So I got out of the

1320
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 7: canoe and I'm kind of sitting there holding it. Steve's

1321
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 7: in the canoe blowing on the call, and I'm I've

1322
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 7: got like one foot on shore and one in the water,

1323
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 7: just kind of crouched down looking down the beach, waiting

1324
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 7: to see this thing pop out of the trees, and uh,

1325
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 7: little you know, and all of a sudden, I'm sitting

1326
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 7: there and I can hear Steve get excited, and I

1327
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 7: hear him saying down the beach, down the beach. In reality,

1328
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,959
Speaker 7: he's saying in your face, in your face, which.

1329
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: Isn't that much more discripsive was looking at his twelve

1330
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: o'clock down the beach, and at is nine o'clock there's

1331
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: a bear like standing there ere.

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01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 7: It was just out of my peripheral and I'm I'm

1333
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 7: kind of between the canoe and this hump of rock,

1334
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 7: and so Steve has another twelve feet or so of

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01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 7: or ten feet of perspective on the whole thing, and

1336
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 7: I'm looking down and I don't see the bear. I

1337
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 7: bring up my binoculars quick. I put him down, and

1338
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 7: I look over my shoulder over my right shoulder to

1339
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 7: see where Steve's looking at. And I look over my

1340
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 7: right shoulder and I see his head craned left, and

1341
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 7: so I spin around, and I mean, I could not

1342
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 7: see that thing until I turned and have my chin

1343
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 7: over my left shoulder.

1344
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 3: And this spaar is on top of you.

1345
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 7: It's yeah, he's sitting right, I mean he's sitting over me.

1346
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 4: Probably, Yeah, he's he's like ten feet above you.

1347
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like.

1348
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 7: Ten feet above me, just peering over the rock. He's

1349
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 7: got this real you know, I can see from his

1350
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 7: chest from his chest up, he's looking over the rock.

1351
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 7: And uh, it happened real quick, but I got this.

1352
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 7: I saw him for you know, a second or two

1353
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 7: for it to register, and and that was like the

1354
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 7: limits of his patients with this whole scenario. So he

1355
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 7: hops back off the rock, and he turns and takes

1356
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 7: a step to the right, and then he zags back

1357
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 7: to the left. And at that point I shot him.

1358
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 6: I thought it was key, like when he was running away,

1359
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 6: you were calling and he made him stop.

1360
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he didn't go. Yeah, he paused for just

1361
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 7: a second. I mean he didn't. It's not like he

1362
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 7: turned around and was just you know, him his way.

1363
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: When he ran out there another fifteen yards.

1364
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 7: He yeah, he paused and turned around and stopped. And

1365
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 7: that's when I shot him. And uh saw him kind

1366
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 7: of over the next rock, and I followed him around

1367
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 7: and he was just laying there.

1368
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 3: That was fun to watch from a boat.

1369
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: Oh, it was stressful.

1370
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1371
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,639
Speaker 6: We were just like, why isn't he shooting? It looked

1372
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 6: like the bear was like an inch from you.

1373
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 7: Oh man, I mean he was he was.

1374
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 4: It felt like he was an inch from us. I was.

1375
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 7: I was like at that point, it wasn't like he was,

1376
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 7: you know, in front of us. I was between him

1377
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 7: and the boat. I was between him and the canoe.

1378
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 7: He came out.

1379
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: He popped out like right over our shoulders.

1380
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 5: He was close enough where I was zoomed into two

1381
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 5: hundred mills on my on my lens, and I like

1382
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 5: same thing. I was looking down the beach and all

1383
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 5: of a sudden, like I looked to my left and

1384
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 5: he's like right there, and like paying the camera over

1385
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 5: quick and could not find him in the view finder.

1386
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, just because he was so close. I was too

1387
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 4: zoomed in, said.

1388
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the bearer of bad news.

1389
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: But there was about a three four inch warpneck connor tip.

1390
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'll.

1391
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 4: Sitting here the other night looking at that.

1392
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: That's probably high on his priority list.

1393
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 4: There's Yeah, there's a long list.

1394
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: Well, you'll be able to at some point or not.

1395
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: You'll you'll be able to see all this we got,

1396
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: we got, we got good.

1397
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 4: It would be good. It'll be a good video.

1398
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a good Oh, it's.

1399
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: Gonna be a good show, good episode, anything else, We're

1400
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up.

1401
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, plans coming in here.

1402
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: Tell them to listen to my Davy Crockett series on

1403
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: Bear Grease. Uh yeah, go ahead, that's it.

1404
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 6: He's not a Davy Crockett fan. We've got a great

1405
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 6: series on Davy Crockett. You go, you learn a lot

1406
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 6: about David Crockett.

1407
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: But first listen to Clays. But if you if you

1408
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: don't mind, first listening to Clay's thing about the education

1409
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: Little Tree. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1410
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 6: We did a series on Asa Carter and the education

1411
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 6: a book called Education of a Little Tree. Lots of

1412
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 6: twists and turns, dark twist and turn dark twisting turns.

1413
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: And then if you still into it, listen to Crockett. Yeah, Crockett, whatever, Crockett.

1414
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you included why he didn't like Taters.

1415
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh it's in there, because that is the most harrowing

1416
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: Tater story that about turned me off to Taters.

1417
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, do you want to tell it?

1418
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 4: No?

1419
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, oh yeah, it is age.

1420
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 6: I would imagine that this audio series, aside from a

1421
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 6: just listening to a book on tape about Crockett, would

1422
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 6: probably be the most comprehensive podcast series on Crockett.

1423
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be four parts. Did you

1424
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: include how he was born on a mountaintop in Tennessee,

1425
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: Green Ed State and Land of the Free?

1426
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, we talk about it. We talk about how it's

1427
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 6: not true you've been duped, Seth.

1428
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 4: Disney's been lying to your old damn life.

1429
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: Seth. Well, I'm glad that you set the record straight.

1430
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of myth around a little Crockett

1431
01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 6: and Boone too.

1432
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well go listen and get get the truth. That's all.

1433
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: Get tune in the Crockett. And while while you're while

1434
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,520
Speaker 1: you're tuning in the crocket, Uh, go order Catch Carefish

1435
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:11,080
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1436
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:16,120
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1437
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:16,679
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1438
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 4: Tell it is June. Order it O.

1439
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 9: Rid on on the sealed gray shine like silver in

1440
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:48,440
Speaker 9: the sun, right right on alone, sweetheart.

1441
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 10: We done beat this dawn, of course, today taking a

1442
01:18:54,400 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 10: new drive, unbeat this damned horsiday. So take a new

1443
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 10: one and ride on.

1444
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 7: M HM.