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Speaker 1: Crime Alart hourly update, breaking crime news Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jennifer Gould. A shooting in Arkansas has not only

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Speaker 2: divided a community, it also has a father facing first

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Speaker 2: degree murder charges. Aaron Spencer shot a man to death

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Speaker 2: after finding his missing fourteen year old daughter in a

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Speaker 2: car with him, but that man was no stranger. According

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Speaker 2: to the girl's family, Aaron Spencer and his wife, Heather

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Speaker 2: say Michael Fossler had a no contact order with their

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Speaker 2: daughter due to previous stocking and rape accusations against him. Still, though,

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Speaker 2: the sixty seven year old reportedly managed to reconnect with

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Speaker 2: their girl, so when Aaron Spencer discovered his daughter was

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Speaker 2: missing last week, he promptly called nine to one one,

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Speaker 2: initiating a search by Lonoke County Sheriff's Office deputies. However,

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Speaker 2: the couple soon learned their daughter was with the alleged predator.

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Speaker 2: A confrontation with Fossler ensued, resulting in him being shot

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Speaker 2: by Aaron Spencer. Fossler was pronounced dead at the scene.

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Speaker 2: Spencer was then taken into custody and released on a

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars bond. He's facing a

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Speaker 2: preliminary charge of first degree murder, a class y felony

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Speaker 2: that carries a potential sentence of ten to forty years

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Speaker 2: in prison. The girl's mother, Heather Spencer, expressed anger towards

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Speaker 2: the sheriff's office on social media, claiming they prioritized protecting

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Speaker 2: Fossler over her family. Fossler had also been arrested by

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Speaker 2: another law enforcement agency in July and booked for Internet

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Speaker 2: stocking of a child and sexual assault, according to officials.

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Speaker 2: Sheriff John Staley released this video about the case.

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Speaker 3: As your sheriff, it is our duty to conduct a thorough,

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Speaker 3: factual investigation. Law enforcement does not file charges. We gather

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Speaker 3: evidence that smittcates to the prosecutor. We will then decide whether

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Speaker 3: or not to file charges. Currently, official charges have not

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Speaker 3: been filed. I have not nor will I advocate for

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Speaker 3: any specific charge. This is the tragic situation and my

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Speaker 3: thoughts and prayers are with all those involved.

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Speaker 2: The incident has sparked outrage and concern in the community.

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Speaker 2: Many are praising Aaron for protecting his daughter, while others

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Speaker 2: are questioning the circumstances surrounding the shooting. The investigation is ongoing.

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Speaker 2: The prosecutor will ultimately decide what charges will be filed

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Speaker 2: against Aaron Spencer. The Spencers had set up a go

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Speaker 2: Fundme to collect money for Aaron's legal fees, but the

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Speaker 2: site shut it down, claiming it violated their terms of

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Speaker 2: service to collect monies for anyone charged with an alleged crime.

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Speaker 4: I'm Nicope Harden. In California, a jury found a man

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Speaker 4: guilty for the murder of his girlfriend who had disappeared

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Speaker 4: last December. Alice Alex Hermann, sixty one, disappeared from her

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Speaker 4: home in California. After her remains were found, her boyfriend,

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Speaker 4: musician Theobald Theo Lingle, was arrested for her murder. Prosecutors

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Speaker 4: say it was a three hour long audio recording of

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Speaker 4: Hermann pleading for her life that sealed the fate of

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Speaker 4: the suspect.

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Speaker 5: I don't see how you could listen to something like that,

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Speaker 5: what was being spoken by the fendant, to the words

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Speaker 5: he was using, the tone of it, the frankly sort

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Speaker 5: of banal nature of this argument that led up to it,

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Speaker 5: and not come to the conclusion that we always believe

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Speaker 5: was correct, which was first free murder.

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Speaker 4: It's unclear if the recording on the victim's phone was

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Speaker 4: taken intentionally, but it was very revealing. During that recording,

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Speaker 4: the jury had the opportunity to hear the woman say

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Speaker 4: that she wanted to stay in while her boyfriend insisted

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Speaker 4: she join him out for an evening. At one point,

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Speaker 4: he threatens Hermann, saying I could mash your f brain.

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Speaker 4: Over the next two hours, similar threats can be heard,

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Speaker 4: one after the other. As the woman pleads for mercy.

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Speaker 4: The man can be heard saying do you want to

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Speaker 4: live or do you want to die? Herman can be

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Speaker 4: heard saying the words fifty three times. The woman seems

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Speaker 4: to try to bite the man to escape, at which

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Speaker 4: point he says, You're going to die right now? Are

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Speaker 4: you ready? How do you want to die? He said,

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Speaker 4: by blunt force, trauma or something else, or maybe I

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Speaker 4: should choke you to death. A few moments later, the

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Speaker 4: woman's voice begins to weaken. Alex Herman was an accomplished

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Speaker 4: scientist and a musician. According to her obituary, she is

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Speaker 4: remembered as a rock star, a rock scientist, a brain surgeon,

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Speaker 4: a master at martial arts, and a finance wizard. Herman

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Speaker 4: enrolled in college at the age of sixteen and went

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Speaker 4: on to get her PhD in neuroscience, lending a job

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Speaker 4: with NASA. The suspect is a founding member of a

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Speaker 4: jazz rock band, Mister Bungle, where he played saxophone and piano.

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Speaker 4: He is scheduled for sentencing next month.

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Speaker 1: I'm Drew Nelson, a woman vanished in Colorado in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen after moving for a fresh start.

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Speaker 5: Now authority say.

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Speaker 1: Two suspects and custody accused of her murder. Douglas County

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Speaker 1: Sheriff Darren Winkley announced the arrest of Javier Alex Martel,

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Speaker 1: aged thirty, and Jennifer Premer, aged thirty eight. They face

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Speaker 1: his charges in the death of fifty one year old

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Speaker 1: Kimberly Bell, last seen alive July twenty second of twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Belle's sister reported her missing a month later when she

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Speaker 1: stopped showing up for work. After years of investigation, police

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Speaker 1: now believe Bell was choked to death and dismembered. According

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Speaker 1: to witness statements, Bell was driving with Martell and Bremer

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Speaker 1: in her rental car the night she disappeared. Sheriff Weekly

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Speaker 1: says Martell was seated in the back.

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Speaker 6: Martell became enraised with Bell and put his arm around

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Speaker 6: Bell's neck, pulling her into the backseat of the vehicle.

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Speaker 6: At one point, it's alleged that Martell stopped choking Bell

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Speaker 6: just for a few moments. Then Martell decided to finish

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Speaker 6: the job and then pulled and then continued to choke

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Speaker 6: Bell until she was dead.

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Speaker 1: The pair then reportedly drove around Denver with Bell's body

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Speaker 1: in the car, stopping at a home depot where Martell

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Speaker 1: bought it acts Bremer used Bell's credit card to buy gas.

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Speaker 1: Later that night, they drove to a remote area near

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Speaker 1: ST's Park. Martel allegedly dismembered Bell's body, placing her remains

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Speaker 1: in trash bags. Authorities believe they disposed of the bags

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Speaker 1: in a dumpster at a nearby veterinary clinic, but the

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Speaker 1: investigation revealed Google searches on her account like quote take

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Speaker 1: a tracking system out of a forward focus and quote

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Speaker 1: does a phone ping location if off? Sheriff Weekly acknowledges

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Speaker 1: the years of work by the cold case team quote

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Speaker 1: We've never had a case quite like this in Douglas County.

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Speaker 1: We're glad to bring some closure for the family. Martel

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Speaker 1: now faces first degree murder charges and remains in custody

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Speaker 1: out a ten million dollar bond, while Bremer, who was

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Speaker 1: released on bond, faces charges of accessory to murder and

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Speaker 1: identity theft. Investigators are calling for anyone with information about

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Speaker 1: the case to contact the Douglas County Cold Case Team.

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