WEBVTT - Teaching Pro Wrestlers How to Act

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome back to w WF Wrestling with Freddy

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. I teased a big episode last week. This

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm really excited to share these stories with you.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is gonna make you laugh. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them is gonna rip your heart right out of your chest,

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<v Speaker 1>throw it into pieces, and then it's gonna put an

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<v Speaker 1>arm around you and it's gonna say, don't worry. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take that heart, we're gonna patch it up, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put it right back in there, and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be feeling good, I promise you. And then I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a crazy story that I've teased that I

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<v Speaker 1>like to call the ice Storm. This is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a long one. We're probably gonna chop it into two.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to wait an extra week and benjam,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you can't wait, I promise there's some good stories.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is what they call a much better tease

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<v Speaker 1>than last week's tease. So let's start the show. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Wrestling with Freddy, now stuffing up for the mic.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hope of Wrestling with Freddie Freddie Prince June. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you guys, So I kind of told you

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<v Speaker 1>how the promo class started and it was a total fail.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh. I was at work at Tightened Tower the

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<v Speaker 1>next week and I went to talk to Jimmy and

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<v Speaker 1>this was Vince's guy. You've heard me mentioned him before.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure he was in the army, real serious,

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<v Speaker 1>just to the point, no nonsense, and you know he

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<v Speaker 1>has Vince's back no matter what. Like if Vince was like, yo, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta take that dude Freddie out, I would That

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<v Speaker 1>would would have been a rap and we would not

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<v Speaker 1>be making this podcast. So I talked to Jimmy. I said, hey, man, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they put me in a room closet and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it if that's like dudes, I have to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, no, they shouldn't have done that. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take care of it, and the dude did so.

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<v Speaker 1>The next Monday it was a raw. I show up

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<v Speaker 1>and they have like the producers meeting is done and

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<v Speaker 1>John Laura IDAs brings all the talent in and brings

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<v Speaker 1>me in and he's standing in front of him and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like six five and always wearing his suit and

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<v Speaker 1>his hair is always like col him and he's like

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<v Speaker 1>looks very corporate, right. He used to be a pro wrestler.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you don't know, I think the Dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>Dude was his name. So he says, all right, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, quiet down, and everybody quiets down. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole roster in there. There's probably sixties maybe seventy

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<v Speaker 1>deep then, I mean it was the room was full.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, he says, as you know, I always provide

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<v Speaker 1>you guys the proper tools you need. And right away

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<v Speaker 1>I step and I go, yo, man, don't don't call

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<v Speaker 1>me a tool. And that kind of made the wrestlers

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<v Speaker 1>pop a little and broke some of the why the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is Freddy Friends Jr. Standing next to Johnny Ayson

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<v Speaker 1>and he's what is going on right now? And he says, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we brought Freddy in and he's gonna write for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you, and he's gonna teach you guys a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about your promos and your acting. Isn't that right, Freddy?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, it may not have been the best introduction

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<v Speaker 1>that I've ever received, but it was an introduction. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I stood there in front of everybody. I wasn't prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for this. They didn't tell me it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen right then, and I just kind of explained what

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<v Speaker 1>promo class was going to be. And I said, when

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<v Speaker 1>I moved back to Los Angeles, I started at this

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<v Speaker 1>acting class called the Shop and it was these two,

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<v Speaker 1>uh these two acting coaches that worked together named John

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<v Speaker 1>Holma and Andrew mcgarrian, and our roster there was deep

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<v Speaker 1>with talent. We had everyone from my wife to Kirsten Dunns,

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<v Speaker 1>to Jennifer love Hewitt, Tina major Reno back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Christina Ricci was in there like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a deep, deep roster. And uh so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down what we did in acting class, and I

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<v Speaker 1>talked about scenes study, how we're gonna break scenes down

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<v Speaker 1>over a four week period, helped them start to develop,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, memorization skills so they can learn things a

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<v Speaker 1>lot quicker, a lot easier because I know you guys

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<v Speaker 1>worked last minute, I said. And we're also gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>some techniques that are just gonna help sharpen your skills

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<v Speaker 1>in there, especially in case you do forget your lines.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to have an ability to improv and

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<v Speaker 1>know where to go. And uh, I think, uh, when,

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<v Speaker 1>oh when John said tool, and I said, don't call

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<v Speaker 1>me in tool. I think Candice Michelle was her name.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes, she goes, well, you know how I like

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<v Speaker 1>to work my tools, and so I'm just like, oh lord,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how we're starting this off in front of

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<v Speaker 1>seventy people. She said that and they all laughed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I have to like blush. Um. So anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>explain it, and uh, I say, we'll be starting every

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<v Speaker 1>day right after the production meeting. Eventually I got to

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<v Speaker 1>uh make it a little earlier. I convinced him I

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<v Speaker 1>needed more time, and that got me out of some

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<v Speaker 1>production meetings, which, as I've let you know, those production

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<v Speaker 1>meetings were hell. So that was the real hell in

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<v Speaker 1>the cell was being a writer in those damn rooms,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. So anyway, uh, we start the first

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<v Speaker 1>one and it's now this is the official one, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty it's pretty deep. I'd say about maybe

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen seventeen wrestlers showed up, all young gunners right like

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<v Speaker 1>MS and Morrison, Uh Natty night heart. Um, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the young bucks were there. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Bryan was or Bryan Danielson was there, Shamus was

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<v Speaker 1>there all like the people who you know now, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were they were young gunners then, and uh I

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<v Speaker 1>start talking to him, and I can see like the

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<v Speaker 1>sus and rightfully so the suspicion in some of their

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<v Speaker 1>faces is to like, why I'm here, what my motives are? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell are you gonna teach me about acting?

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<v Speaker 1>Like all this kind of just toughness in their faces.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I start off with I said, listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>may not be I think. I said, I may not

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<v Speaker 1>be Robert Downey Jr. But Robert Downey Jr. Didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>a shit about y'all, and I do. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>teach you everything I know and everything I believe other

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<v Speaker 1>actors use as their techniques because I've I've worked with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the greats like Peter Falk and just people

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Denny, he people who really have a strong technique

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<v Speaker 1>as far as building a character behind the lines. And

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<v Speaker 1>I asked a ton of questions until I annoyed these

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<v Speaker 1>these sons of bitches, But I always would ask and

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<v Speaker 1>they would always uh give me everything they could. So

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<v Speaker 1>that softened some people up, but not everyone. And I

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<v Speaker 1>start talking to him about this acting exercise for my

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<v Speaker 1>acting class called repetition, and repetition is basically it's a

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<v Speaker 1>game with one rule. You're locked in to whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>other person says. So if you and I are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go back and forth, just a silly example, I'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to my podcast. You're locked into that. You

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<v Speaker 1>can you can personalize it or not, but but you're

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<v Speaker 1>locked into that. So I would say you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast, and you'd respond, I'm listening to your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And then i'd respond, you're listening to my podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd fun, i'm listening to your podcast because this is

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<v Speaker 1>getting old. So you have a low attitude on your voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I smile, oh, yeah, you're listening to my

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and that's making me feel good. And you're like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>what is Freddy, I'm listening to your podcast. And it

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<v Speaker 1>goes back and forth until someone can't take it anymore

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<v Speaker 1>and they have to change the words of the sentence,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you get a point. First to three points,

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<v Speaker 1>you win, or in this case, we just did first

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<v Speaker 1>one to change it loses. So I offer all this

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<v Speaker 1>up and uh, I say, now I need a volunteer.

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<v Speaker 1>But if no one volunteers, I'm gonna choose someone. But

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<v Speaker 1>before I can say I'm gonna choose someone, MS just

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<v Speaker 1>stands up. And if you don't know who the miss is,

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<v Speaker 1>if you, if you, if you're listening just to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy stories that I'm telling, and you're not a

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling fan. You may have seen his show on USA

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<v Speaker 1>called MS and Mrs or promos for it. Um you

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<v Speaker 1>may remember him from the old school uh MTV like

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<v Speaker 1>Reality Show Days, or you may have seen him on

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<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars as Mike the mss mssan in UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So to understand them is and I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 1>take us on a side quest, but I like video

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<v Speaker 1>games and side quests are fun. To understand them is

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<v Speaker 1>you have to understand how this business views reality TV.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not fair. But it goes film, television, professional wrestling,

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<v Speaker 1>and then reality TV is below that, like reality TV

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing more than a cash grab. It's all show

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<v Speaker 1>business and we all know which words bigger. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reality shows the cheapest show to make. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the talent anything, and you can make a

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<v Speaker 1>fortune off of it. But they don't respect wrestling, but

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<v Speaker 1>they respect reality shows even less. A good comparison would

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<v Speaker 1>be the comedy version of THEO Van who everybody loves now.

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<v Speaker 1>But when THEO Van who's selling out arena's nationwide, started

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<v Speaker 1>out in comedy, he was a guy from real world

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<v Speaker 1>road rules and every comedian hated him and no one

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<v Speaker 1>would help him. People would steal his steal his time

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<v Speaker 1>slot just so he wouldn't go on because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want this guy who basically they look at it as

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<v Speaker 1>like you got a lottery ticket, you didn't earn it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they are a handful of comics, a very small

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<v Speaker 1>handful who looked after THEO. One of them is I

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<v Speaker 1>know this story because one of them is my best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh wolfe Um, who said, you know, hey, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy to give you advice because he doesn't really care

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<v Speaker 1>what other people think. Josh is just a different cat.

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<v Speaker 1>So eventually THEO was so damn good that he earned

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's respect. And now the dudes on the Joe Rogan

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and every other show and people love him, and

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<v Speaker 1>TVs are trying to give him deals so he can

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<v Speaker 1>make a show because his style is so unique. So

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<v Speaker 1>MMS came up on the reality show circuit and said,

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<v Speaker 1>as a grown man, I want to be a w

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<v Speaker 1>w E superstar, and that was a take. Again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not wrestling is not as respected as I wish it

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<v Speaker 1>was in this business. So he was made almost a

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<v Speaker 1>joke on that show. Now all of a sudden, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a chance to be a pro wrestler, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these wrestlers are looking at him the same

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<v Speaker 1>way those comics looked at THEO, like, you're here because

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<v Speaker 1>you got famous on a reality show. You're not here

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<v Speaker 1>because you earned it. So the chip and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this for a fact, This is just me applying

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<v Speaker 1>my life experience to these situations. But the chip on

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<v Speaker 1>on Mrs shoulder, which is no longer there, was as

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<v Speaker 1>big as a house. Okay, you couldn't you couldn't miss it.

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<v Speaker 1>And he stood up before I could complete the sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>And I respect the hell out of his but he

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<v Speaker 1>did not like me when we were there, and he

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<v Speaker 1>and I aren't like buddies now, we don't like even

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<v Speaker 1>wish each other Merry Christmas or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we respected each other very much. And so he gets

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<v Speaker 1>up and I say, so you remember the you know

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<v Speaker 1>the rules, and he goes, yeah, I got it. I

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<v Speaker 1>got it. It's just so like dismissive with me right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I go all right, do you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>start for you? And he goes no, no, no no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, I'll start. I'm like, oh, and now I

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<v Speaker 1>get my eyes go wide right. It's like a wolf

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<v Speaker 1>seeing a rabbit with a limp, because this is in

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<v Speaker 1>his world, no matter how good he can do. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been humiliated in this exercise a million times in front

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<v Speaker 1>of all my peers, and I know how that pressure

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<v Speaker 1>builds by the time you have to repeat the same

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<v Speaker 1>sentence four times. And he hasn't felt this. But the

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<v Speaker 1>dude is fearless and he does not care what obstacle

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<v Speaker 1>you put in front of him, and what you say

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<v Speaker 1>he can't do, he will do it and he will

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<v Speaker 1>put it in your face. And I love this dude

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<v Speaker 1>so much for this. So he goes no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start, and I go all right, man, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, excuse me. If you hear me, curse now.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you don't want to hear me, curse, just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mute this part. But he says, what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck are you gonna teach me about acting? And I again,

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes just like the whitest they've ever been in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. And I go, what the funk? Am I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna teach you about acting? And he goes, what the

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<v Speaker 1>And we go back and forth and eventually he breaks

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<v Speaker 1>because he can't take it. It's he goes about six

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<v Speaker 1>rounds deep with me, which is good. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>the normal amount of pressure. And then he had to

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<v Speaker 1>change the sentence and I pointed at him and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh I Everyone was like, oh, you lost,

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<v Speaker 1>you lost. And he sat down and then other people started. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Other people started getting up after that and taking a

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<v Speaker 1>shot without me being there. Now they kind of saw

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<v Speaker 1>it happen, so they were starting to go on each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had to tell them when it was just them,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, now, listen, when we did this class when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a young buck, you know, like one years

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<v Speaker 1>old and uh doing this and it's you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of pretty people in an acting class and

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<v Speaker 1>this exercise. And I'm telling them this as candidly as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you guys now, I said, you know this

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<v Speaker 1>exercise inherently when it's a boy and a girl, they

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<v Speaker 1>step closer and closer to one another and it gets

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<v Speaker 1>sexier and sexier every time, especially if both people are single.

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<v Speaker 1>It just happens. It's the nature of the beast. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it a thousand times to to not know for

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<v Speaker 1>a fact this is true. And I said, when it's

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<v Speaker 1>two men, it gets closer and closer, but it almost

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<v Speaker 1>always turns into a fight. And I said, and when

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<v Speaker 1>it's two women, y'all usually keep it civil and clean.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, So here are the rules. Y'all ain't allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to make out and you're not allowed to hit each other,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, but everything else is a go. So they

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<v Speaker 1>start doing their thing, and the repetition starts going well,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we finish it's about an hour. I explained

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<v Speaker 1>to them what I want them to do well. First,

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<v Speaker 1>I explained to them what I feel the benefits of

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<v Speaker 1>the exercise are, and the first as two fold. The

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<v Speaker 1>first being there's a million different ways to cut a line, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>so long as you commit to it and have a

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<v Speaker 1>thought behind the line. The only long way to execute

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<v Speaker 1>a line on camera is to not believe it, to

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<v Speaker 1>not commit, and to be embarrassed or scared to fail,

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<v Speaker 1>which leads us to the second benefit of the exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>a fearlessness to fail. If you're willing to fail in

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<v Speaker 1>front of your peers, the people that you're working with

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately competing with, because that's how this business does artists,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna be more willing to fail out on

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<v Speaker 1>the big show because you've already done it. You got

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<v Speaker 1>back up, your career wasn't over, and you're getting another opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Another promise that I made to every single wrestler that

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<v Speaker 1>walked into that room was I would never film a

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<v Speaker 1>single session, and that nobody in the like the brass,

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<v Speaker 1>none of the agents, nobody would ever see anything they

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<v Speaker 1>ever did because they were nervous if they did something

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<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't good, that that would get them buried.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was a very legitimate concern because I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>people get buried at that company for far less. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They could just have a bad promo and FCW and

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing to do with them. It was just written poorly,

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<v Speaker 1>or they are a person who needs a writer. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But they were done and didn't get a shot for

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<v Speaker 1>like another two or three years, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I understood that fear, and I made that

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<v Speaker 1>promise and I kept it the whole time. I did

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<v Speaker 1>tell them any time I saw something special. I had

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<v Speaker 1>promised Vince that I would report that directly to him

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<v Speaker 1>if there was somebody that I thought, because I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted all cards on the table so everybody knew what

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<v Speaker 1>time it was and uh, and everybody knew what what

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on. So as the promo classes began

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of take shape, I had sort of my

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<v Speaker 1>regular ten, and then there'd be about I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>eight to twelve, sometimes less, just depending on on travel

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that and what time they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to get there. But we were doing

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<v Speaker 1>this every single week, and a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>weren't getting camera time, I felt deserved camera time. Eve Torres,

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<v Speaker 1>who's now Eve Torres Gracie. She was a former Divas Champion.

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<v Speaker 1>She knew how to act. I could just tell, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I gave her. I wanted everyone to do a monologue,

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<v Speaker 1>which they call a promo, and it's just a paragraph

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<v Speaker 1>or two where no one else is speaking. You're communicating

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<v Speaker 1>a message to your either to the person you're speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to or to the audience. And I gave her this

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<v Speaker 1>speech from Beautiful Girls that Rosie O'donald cut, which just

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<v Speaker 1>talks total trash on beautiful girls and how their life

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<v Speaker 1>is so much easier and they can fail more in

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<v Speaker 1>all this and the classes over and Eve comes up

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<v Speaker 1>to me and she says, Freddy, I I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, what do you mean why not? She

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<v Speaker 1>goes she's talking about me. I said, yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect reason why this is gonna be. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see if you can handle this. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>if you can do this. And so they got three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to kind of work on it, perform it. I

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<v Speaker 1>would give notes things like that, and in the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>week I expected them off book and uh and ready

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<v Speaker 1>to kick ass. So on the fourth week she comes

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<v Speaker 1>in and she cuts this promo and she straight like

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<v Speaker 1>breaks down, like full on like tears, and it's everyone

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<v Speaker 1>in there. She finishes, okay, and everyone in there we

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<v Speaker 1>would always clap when someone was done. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to build their egos up? I don't want to break

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<v Speaker 1>them down. That's the w w E philosophy that I

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<v Speaker 1>do not agree with. Break them down to build them

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<v Speaker 1>up in your image. That's a heavy fingerprint, and heavy

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<v Speaker 1>fingerprints are usually dictated by ego, not by imagination. Light

0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:43.479
<v Speaker 1>fingerprints or imagination. That's why Van Gogh's paintings look so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, she breaks down and no one claps, including me,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's sitting there in tears, right, and in tears,

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<v Speaker 1>and about three seconds go by, four seconds go by,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like all the wrestlers, not all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but like four or five wrestlers get up and they

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<v Speaker 1>all go to her and it's just, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that was and they're hugging her and like holding her up.

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<v Speaker 1>That was amazing. Oh my god, that was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yea great. And I'm sitting there like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>do the wrestler just moved me, like what just what

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<v Speaker 1>just happened? And it was like one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>like real moments that I saw with talent there that

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of like it just sort of messed

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<v Speaker 1>with my head, right. So I talked to Vince about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, yo, man, Eve is like doing next

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<v Speaker 1>level stuff up there where I'm wanting to tell her,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you need to get out this business in

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<v Speaker 1>audition for like TV shows and movies. You could have

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<v Speaker 1>been wonder woman. So she should have been a great

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<v Speaker 1>wonder woman. So he's like he just gives you that grunt, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which means I'll think about it if I get around

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<v Speaker 1>to it. And it sounds like this, that's it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not just that means like, I don't want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>this crap anymore. But if you get the triple, he's like, yeah, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So a few weeks go by and Uh, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, I hear that he's gonna be the general

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<v Speaker 1>manager of Monday and Iraw. And in this instance, the

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<v Speaker 1>storyline died. It came around I think a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half later, but they had this great idea on

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<v Speaker 1>how she was going to become the general manager, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was her just being in the right place at

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<v Speaker 1>the right time, and the current general manager was making

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<v Speaker 1>a fool of themselves and she comes in with a

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<v Speaker 1>solution instead of a problem. And that's what Vince likes.

0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.679
<v Speaker 1>He's solution oriented. Now, granted his philosophy as Reaganomics. He

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<v Speaker 1>fixed his problems with money. But Eve was coming in

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<v Speaker 1>and fixing a problem with an idea, and it got

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to TV and then uh, Pritchard said,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of talk in this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>it got killed. Um, but it came around later and

0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.440
<v Speaker 1>she did a great job with it. Anyway, that's the

0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Monday night Raw. We go to SmackDown on Tuesday and

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<v Speaker 1>Johnny makes the same speech, but this time doesn't call

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<v Speaker 1>me a tool, which is great. And I start to

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<v Speaker 1>work with the SmackDown group, and this is when I

0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:33.359
<v Speaker 1>meet Natalia Nightheart and Natty. To know her is to

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:37.159
<v Speaker 1>love her. You just you can't help it. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>evil insider. She's too nice to her own detriment. She's

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<v Speaker 1>too good for her own detriment. And her and I

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen her. She had some tears. I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was a shoulder that her, that her head was on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you gotta understand this woman. When she was

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<v Speaker 1>like her most over was when the women's division was

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<v Speaker 1>beyond afterthought. Okay it was. They received five minute matches,

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<v Speaker 1>and two minutes of it was their damn intro. So

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<v Speaker 1>they get three minutes to tell a match, and her

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<v Speaker 1>finisher is a damned submission that she only gets to

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<v Speaker 1>apply for about twenty seconds, and you can't tell a

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<v Speaker 1>story of how much pain the other her opponents in

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<v Speaker 1>because then they'd only have like sixty seconds left in

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<v Speaker 1>the match, So it limited anyone with a submission hold,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why very few of them did it, and

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<v Speaker 1>when they did, it wasn't traumatic because they got no time. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what all these women were going through

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<v Speaker 1>when I was there, and my relationship with Natty lad

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the women on SmackDown to come to

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<v Speaker 1>that class to the point where I began writing for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them and helping them work on their

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<v Speaker 1>skills to where Steph had me right, this whole crazy storyline.

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<v Speaker 1>They were gonna bring awesome coong in and they gave

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<v Speaker 1>me the story, and we had recently signed Gail Kim,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had awesome cang like smashing her first like

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<v Speaker 1>three opponents, just killing them right, awesome content. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know as Kia stevens Um and she's just like

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<v Speaker 1>six too, maybe six one, just gigantic, right, and I

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<v Speaker 1>met her, she's I can't wait to tell you this story.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I write this whole storyline about her and

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<v Speaker 1>she crushes the first three and the w W he

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<v Speaker 1>had signed Gail Kim and her and Gail had some

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<v Speaker 1>really really good matches at t NA, so Gayl was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give her a match and we were gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>seven minutes. This was that I was promised, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been three minutes, but I was promised seven minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>seven whole minutes. Now they get two commercial breaks and

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing twenty five minute matches in the last hour

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<v Speaker 1>of raw. They're so gangster now. But so we're writing

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<v Speaker 1>this up and Hail hits her finisher, but Cong kicks

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<v Speaker 1>out and Kong beats her, and then she meets Natalia

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the first real real test, and Kong

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<v Speaker 1>beats her, but then goes off after the bell, which

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<v Speaker 1>brings out Beth Phoenix, which is what Vince wanted me

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<v Speaker 1>to work WrestleMania too, And it was gonna be Beth

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenix and Awesome Cong at WrestleMania, or this is what

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Stephanie wanted me to do, and so I put this

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<v Speaker 1>whole story together. They brought in Kong and then Uh

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to try out some of my ideas in

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<v Speaker 1>the promo class. So we had already been working together

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<v Speaker 1>now a few months, and I had a good rapport

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<v Speaker 1>with them, and we were trying out new things. MS

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<v Speaker 1>was doing stuff with Alex Riley in there in the

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<v Speaker 1>promo class where they would just go off on each

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<v Speaker 1>other and nobody got to see and I'll tell that

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<v Speaker 1>story another day. But Kia and Beth. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>gave Kia more information than Beth, and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you two because you guys gonna be going

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<v Speaker 1>together at WrestleMania. But I want the relationship to start

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>in a very sort of Emperor Anakin Skywalker sort of way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to try to bury her or

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<v Speaker 1>break her, kill her. I want you to seduce her.

0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 1>I want you to bring her to the dark side,

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<v Speaker 1>so to speak, and have the two of you destroy

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of these Barbie doll beauties and show

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<v Speaker 1>the world what women should be. And Kia's just look

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<v Speaker 1>at emmy, and I swear to God. She goes, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a baby, and so I sit down. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>never worked with her before, okay, only Beth and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the case. She was brand new and Beth

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<v Speaker 1>standing there and Kia comes up to her and she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be afraid. I don't want to hurt you. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to join you, and she just walks in a

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<v Speaker 1>circle around Beth, and Beth just follows her with her

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<v Speaker 1>head and while she's circling around her, she goes, look

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<v Speaker 1>at you, and look at me, and now look at

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of these dumb bitches in this room,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all the rest of the female wrestler is

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and they're all sitting there and they're just there.

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<v Speaker 1>They know it's not personal. This is how these promos

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<v Speaker 1>are done. I mean, they'll shoot on each other straight up.

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 1>And she starts naming like their weight. This bitch weighs

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred twenty two pounds. I'm three of her. You

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<v Speaker 1>could snap her into We could break each and every

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>single one of them, and beyond that, we could break

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the whole damn system. And they go through this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing and she circles her about three times and at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, Beth just looks her dead in the face

0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>and goes, you can go straight to hell. And everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was like oh, And obviously that I was like, yo,

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>these chicks because Beth wasn't the best on the microphone, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so I had to protect her more than I would

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>have to protect Kia. Apparently I didn't know how much

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I would have to do with Kia, but she was

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<v Speaker 1>just fire, like straight fire. Now the story couldn't couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>play um and ended up not going because he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up leaving the company. But that moment in that promo

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<v Speaker 1>class is basically the beginning of the story of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ice Store. So I'll give you a tease for the

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 1>Ice Store, and then if you want to hear the

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>rest of the story, you can tune in next week,

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.239
<v Speaker 1>or like I said, you could smosh them and binge it.

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<v Speaker 1>So SmackDown is over, and uh, I'm working late because

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm working on this, this story, and I have to

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<v Speaker 1>show it to Stephanie. Ah. Pretty much everybody already left,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told Angelo, the other writer that I was

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<v Speaker 1>close with. I was like, man, I'll find it right, Like,

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:36.800
<v Speaker 1>there's always people so and I and I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>along with a lot of the people at this point

0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>in the company were digging me because they saw how

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<v Speaker 1>hard I worked. So I'm finishing up this story. Everybody leaves.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm walking through and there's not many people left in

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the arena, and uh, I see one of the makeup

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 1>artists and I say, hey, uh, do you wanna cruise

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 1>to Atlanta with me? I'll drive, I go, you can

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:57.479
<v Speaker 1>just sleep. She goes, oh, that would be amazing, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get in the car and makeup artists in

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood gossip. It's just they're sitting there in a trailer.

0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>You can only make so much conversation when you put

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>makeup on somebody for an hour straight. So they start

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.919
<v Speaker 1>gossip and they started saying, Hey, oh, this person, that person, who, this, that,

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 1>and this. I'm not one for gossip. That's why I'm

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 1>in and out of the makeup trailer inside of twelve minutes.

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>And I make them play music when I'm in there

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>so that everybody hopefully will note a song and sing it,

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>even if it's music I don't like, so long as

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I have to hear that. Unfortunately, this night I did.

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.639
<v Speaker 1>But she shaped the company in a different light, and

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.200
<v Speaker 1>I started looking out for myself a little bit more.

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>And she started telling me not only like who was

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.200
<v Speaker 1>sleeping with who, but who liked me and who didn't.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>And so I found out that John Cena couldn't stand

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>me and and didn't want didn't want me in the company.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>And this even goes into a promo class. And I'll

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>tell this story out another time when when John Cena

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>interrupted the promo class to try and like bury it.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>But um but yeah, we ended up with a little

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>bit of respect at the end. Um. So She's telling

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>me everything, and I'm like, alright, alright, this wrestler, that wrestler,

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh, we get in the car and we get

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>on the highway. She knows the way, She's done the

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>drive a hundred times, so all she has to do

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is get me on the highway. And she gets me

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>on the highway and it is the craziest four hour

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>road trip that I've ever been on in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't wait to tell you about it next week. Also, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you can follow me on Twitter or Instagram. Twitter is

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<v Speaker 1>is real Freddie Prinz. And I'll speak with you guys

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