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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Season with Peter Schrager. We are entering the final

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Speaker 1: few days before training camps.

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Speaker 2: Begin in the NFL. As you're listening to this.

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Speaker 1: The Jets actually start camp this week as they have

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Speaker 1: to get things going with the Hall of Fame game

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Speaker 1: up ahead. They also got the news that they were

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Speaker 1: on hard knocks this year, and I think all people

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Speaker 1: are excited about it. The NFL is excited about it,

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Speaker 1: NFL Films is excited about it. I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 1: I don't get the feeling the Jets are so excited

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Speaker 1: about it. And Aaron Rodgers made as much clear when

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Speaker 1: he took to the cameras when they were interviewing him

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Speaker 1: at the golf tournament and basically said, the league shoved

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Speaker 1: it down their throats.

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Speaker 2: Guess what they did.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what we get from it. Sala

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Speaker 1: is an interesting character in this one, one for the

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Speaker 1: camera's not looking to make it about him, and yet

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Speaker 1: he has.

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Speaker 2: Such a cool life, such a cool, interesting.

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Speaker 1: Family life, and one of the partons I like about

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Speaker 1: hard knocks is they take us into the people's personal

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Speaker 1: lives and goes into the homes. Robert Sala has seven

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Speaker 1: kids under the age of thirteen. He's an NFL head coach.

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Speaker 1: He's got all this expectations and all of I guess

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Speaker 1: this pressure this year touse. I would like to think

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Speaker 1: Salah is going to be one of the more interesting characters.

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Speaker 2: I know Rogers, it's going to be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Question is Aaron as we think about that, does Rogers

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Speaker 1: let them in for free?

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Speaker 2: This is the guy, Aaron Rodgers who has ip to

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Speaker 2: his name that.

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Speaker 1: He could sell his own documentary following his own career

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Speaker 1: for millions of dollars. Is he going to be open

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Speaker 1: with the cameras? Is he going to be saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: I don't see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Rogers is going to be so welcoming,

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Speaker 1: especially after we saw the quote that he gave at

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Speaker 1: the golf tournament this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I also wonder like, does Rogers have the Lebron set

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Speaker 3: times like filming the Inevitable documentary? Does Rogers also have

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Speaker 3: that you might, yeah, So I don't know. I also

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Speaker 3: feel like, what are you going to get like footage

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Speaker 3: of Rogers going on McAfee show once a week, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's going to make the most

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Speaker 3: enticing Hard Knocks footage.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see where Rogers lives.

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Speaker 1: I think that would be interesting just from the lifestyles

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see.

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Speaker 1: Rogers take a day trip to New York City. I

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Speaker 1: And you know, as much as he might be a

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Speaker 1: the pandemic or his way his departure with the Packers went,

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Speaker 1: Rogers smart guy. He's got a pretty quick humor. I

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Speaker 1: think more Rogers the better. I think if we get

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Speaker 1: on Hard Knocks and suddenly we're doing, you know, forty

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Speaker 1: working out in the offensive line room, you're not getting

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Speaker 1: what you really signed up for when you said, Jets,

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Speaker 1: you must do this. So Aaron Rodgers, I would hope,

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Speaker 1: would be a part of it. I'm just not sure

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Speaker 1: how much he's going to give. Did you get a chance,

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Speaker 1: Aaron to watch The Quarterback on Netflix yet? The new

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Speaker 1: series that has been produced by Omaha as well as

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Speaker 1: NFL Films and follows around the season of Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. And after a week of feedback from this thing,

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Speaker 1: everybody's darling Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I am. I think I'm five episodes in so far.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to slow it.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to binge the whole thing because this

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Speaker 3: is kind of like our content until you know, hard

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Speaker 3: Knocks comes up. So I've been I've been slowly enjoying it,

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Speaker 1: All right, let me give you a couple of takeaways

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Speaker 1: that I've had, and I want to hear whatever instant

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Speaker 1: this with anybody except my wife, who has been watching

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Speaker 2: Guy in the entire NFL. First of all, the guy

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Speaker 1: You never hear him complain his cerebral nature to playing

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Speaker 2: Is that called brain control? What was that then?

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Speaker 3: I don't remember, but like he's watching something and it

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Speaker 1: It was a sports century on Larry Bird that he

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Speaker 1: was watching on his iPhone, and if he's not paying

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Speaker 1: he just I've never heard of it. That's ai next level.

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Speaker 1: They're running our world stuff, and yet Cousins like, I've

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Speaker 1: been doing this for ten years. It's what I do.

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Speaker 2: He writes out every single play. That's my first thing. Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Cousins?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was talking to my girlfriend this weekend about

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Speaker 3: it and she was asking, like what takeaways I had

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Speaker 3: Cousins are you like that the chains on the airplane

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Speaker 3: and they go over that. But like he is, he's

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Speaker 4: You know, but yeah he does.

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Speaker 3: He takes such a beating it's I visibly winced when

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Speaker 3: he had his chiropractor there, Like I always think the

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Speaker 3: factors are scary, but like the next stuff, Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I know there's.

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Speaker 2: A little moment, and I'll break the fourth wall here.

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Speaker 1: There's a little moment where they beat the Bills in

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Speaker 1: this dramatic game and he's.

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Speaker 2: Walking off the field.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I remember, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, I'm sorry your Bill's fin and he looks up

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Speaker 1: into the crowd and as everyone's in the screen, hey,

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Speaker 2: So I have cousins number in my phone from.

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Speaker 1: Like the deep annals of meeting him back probably when

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Speaker 2: Anyone who grew up in our era love starter jackets.

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Speaker 1: I had one.

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Speaker 2: I had to call it out. I'm like, yes, that's

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Speaker 2: my first takeaway.

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Speaker 1: Second takeaway, I think Patrick Mahomes's wife, Brittany gets a

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Speaker 1: she's a big reason for Patrick Mahomes's success, how committed

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Speaker 3: It doesn't help that the show opens with her being like, Patrick,

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Speaker 3: we need to take a photo here, Patrick, let's take

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Speaker 2: I played college soccer.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm impressed with her. I do like Mariota's wife more.

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Speaker 3: I think I liked her, Like I don't know if

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Speaker 4: I loved that.

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Speaker 1: reading back plays like double, why is it dragon?

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Speaker 2: I'm like what that was amazing.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorite moments with plays is when Mahomes

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Speaker 3: when we go in motion, it means they're in a

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Speaker 1: I find it really interesting because I work on a

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Speaker 1: daily show. Obviously, I work on the Fox Sunday Show.

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Speaker 1: I grew up and you always had edge NFL matchup

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't play football at a high level.

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Speaker 1: I didn't coach at a high level. So a lot

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Speaker 2: Here's how it broke open. It's like almost like calculus.

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Speaker 1: To me, or it's speaking you know, a different language

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Speaker 2: When Mahomes is.

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Speaker 1: The one taking us through it, and when the player

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Speaker 2: And it's really cool. It's like watching chess in a way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And he's like pointing out, look at this one person

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Speaker 2: I have two more takeaways.

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Speaker 1: Third one Mahomes uncensored. You know I'm that dude and

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Speaker 1: mother f this it's all.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's almost like he's an actor

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Speaker 2: playing what.

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Speaker 1: He thinks like a tough guy man, yet it's authentic.

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Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know. He says warm, cuddly, like

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Speaker 1: And then he's out there cursing off Max Crosby and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, there's a different side of him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I also love his he he kind of does

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Speaker 3: the Andrew Luck thing too, right.

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Speaker 2: Yep, good play, good play man.

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Speaker 4: Always compliment to Crosby.

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Speaker 1: But Nick Bosa, he was like, man, you're great. After

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Speaker 2: That was awesome. And my last takeaway is an open question.

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Speaker 2: The three quarterbacks you would want heading into twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you my three first, and then you

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm outside right now. I got planes flying over me.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'm thinking. I want Rogers.

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Speaker 1: This is Yannis coming to the NFL at quarterback six

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Speaker 2: So those are my three, three very different situations.

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Speaker 3: So I think I don't I don't want to copy

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Speaker 3: I want someone who Sorry Mariota, but someone who's also

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Speaker 2: Let's go Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: And this is whatever situation. He's in in Baltimore. Sorry

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Speaker 1: All right, today's podcast guest. Really excited for this one.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the season with Peter Schriker.

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Speaker 5: Thanks man, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you. You and I have got to know

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So, I was the assistant quarterbacks coach in Philly

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Speaker 5: I'm watching every plus twenty pass attempt that week. Every

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Speaker 5: Who's on our team at that time? I tagged it.

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Speaker 5: And so we're all like, he's I'm gonna go Philly,

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Speaker 1: And I sid to Sean, I'm like, that was amazing.

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00:19:09,306 --> 00:19:10,586
Speaker 1: How'd you draw that up? He's like, oh no, the

436
00:19:10,626 --> 00:19:12,586
Speaker 1: Dolphins right out last week Salvin Akhmed ran it like

437
00:19:12,626 --> 00:19:13,826
Speaker 1: it was the same exact play, Like we just took

438
00:19:13,826 --> 00:19:14,866
Speaker 1: it from when we really liked that they did.

439
00:19:15,106 --> 00:19:20,306
Speaker 5: Was they then Ben Johnson beats the Packers on it

440
00:19:20,346 --> 00:19:20,666
Speaker 5: last year?

441
00:19:20,706 --> 00:19:21,426
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes he did.

442
00:19:21,666 --> 00:19:23,346
Speaker 5: We ran out to Golden Tate a couple of years

443
00:19:23,386 --> 00:19:24,426
Speaker 5: back too, exactly.

444
00:19:24,466 --> 00:19:25,706
Speaker 1: So it's like you see it, You're like, what is

445
00:19:25,786 --> 00:19:27,546
Speaker 1: that play? And it's like, no, we just stole from

446
00:19:27,546 --> 00:19:30,026
Speaker 1: someone else. And there's no shame in that, right.

447
00:19:29,906 --> 00:19:31,946
Speaker 5: None at all none. What sir, you're trying to move

448
00:19:31,946 --> 00:19:32,226
Speaker 5: the ball.

449
00:19:32,666 --> 00:19:37,066
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. Your story for the listeners come from, obviously,

450
00:19:37,346 --> 00:19:39,746
Speaker 1: I would say, a football family. Your pops was a coach.

451
00:19:39,986 --> 00:19:42,586
Speaker 1: Your older brother is Zach Taylor who's the head coach

452
00:19:42,586 --> 00:19:45,146
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati Bengals. But your path is not as maybe

453
00:19:45,186 --> 00:19:49,066
Speaker 1: direct as as Zachxpert was. Hey college superstar into coaching,

454
00:19:49,146 --> 00:19:53,786
Speaker 1: and to take the path, you were a high school

455
00:19:53,786 --> 00:19:55,746
Speaker 1: player going in You went to played college, but not

456
00:19:55,986 --> 00:19:57,466
Speaker 1: major division one, am I correct?

457
00:19:57,826 --> 00:20:00,186
Speaker 5: No, I originally went to junior college out of high school.

458
00:20:00,186 --> 00:20:02,586
Speaker 5: So for two gimes. When I'm a six foot tall quarterback,

459
00:20:02,626 --> 00:20:05,106
Speaker 5: I threw for two thousand yards in high school. You know,

460
00:20:05,106 --> 00:20:08,426
Speaker 5: we had a really good pl but mostly skilled players,

461
00:20:08,426 --> 00:20:10,306
Speaker 5: but we were old school under center all that. So

462
00:20:10,546 --> 00:20:13,226
Speaker 5: one highly recruited guy. I had some D two one

463
00:20:13,266 --> 00:20:15,346
Speaker 5: double A offers at the time, but wanted to play

464
00:20:15,426 --> 00:20:17,386
Speaker 5: D one football. So I went to junior college. And

465
00:20:17,746 --> 00:20:20,786
Speaker 5: my brother had gone to junior college the same one actually.

466
00:20:20,426 --> 00:20:21,466
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that.

467
00:20:21,546 --> 00:20:23,906
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he had, but he had bounced back there.

468
00:20:23,906 --> 00:20:26,106
Speaker 5: He went to Wake Forest out of high school, went

469
00:20:26,146 --> 00:20:29,186
Speaker 5: to Butler, had a lot of success, went on to Nebraska.

470
00:20:29,226 --> 00:20:31,106
Speaker 5: I had a great career there. So we were familiar

471
00:20:31,106 --> 00:20:33,986
Speaker 5: with the staff at Butler, so they recruited me. I

472
00:20:33,986 --> 00:20:35,826
Speaker 5: wanted to play D one, so I wanted to, you know,

473
00:20:35,906 --> 00:20:38,066
Speaker 5: take that opportunity to go and develop a little more.

474
00:20:38,426 --> 00:20:41,266
Speaker 5: So went there, had two great years playing there, really

475
00:20:41,346 --> 00:20:43,866
Speaker 5: enjoyed it, and then went on to Marshall University and played.

476
00:20:43,706 --> 00:20:46,746
Speaker 1: Two years years. Not out of high school though, yeah.

477
00:20:46,666 --> 00:20:48,626
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, not out of high school. So kind of

478
00:20:48,626 --> 00:20:51,786
Speaker 5: developed into that and had had a good experience doing that.

479
00:20:51,866 --> 00:20:53,346
Speaker 5: Spent two years at Marshall University.

480
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Speaker 1: Did you play quarterback at Marshall?

481
00:20:54,906 --> 00:20:56,306
Speaker 5: I did, Yeah, I was really a backup.

482
00:20:56,346 --> 00:20:58,026
Speaker 1: Who are you behind? Were you like left Witch years

483
00:20:58,106 --> 00:20:59,746
Speaker 1: or was it Pennington or after?

484
00:21:00,066 --> 00:21:02,506
Speaker 5: No, I was younger than those guys. Yeah, younger than

485
00:21:02,546 --> 00:21:03,106
Speaker 5: those guys.

486
00:21:03,706 --> 00:21:06,186
Speaker 1: So you go to Marshall and then careers over in

487
00:21:06,786 --> 00:21:07,186
Speaker 1: Then what.

488
00:21:07,586 --> 00:21:09,106
Speaker 5: I think I knew early on, I was going to

489
00:21:09,146 --> 00:21:11,746
Speaker 5: coach just kind of my dad was my dad coach.

490
00:21:11,866 --> 00:21:13,706
Speaker 5: My brother was kind of getting into coaching at that

491
00:21:13,786 --> 00:21:16,906
Speaker 5: point coming out, and so knew I was going to coach.

492
00:21:17,186 --> 00:21:19,066
Speaker 5: My brother was at Texa and at the time he

493
00:21:19,186 --> 00:21:21,106
Speaker 5: was like, hey, you can be a volunteer assistant here,

494
00:21:21,586 --> 00:21:23,066
Speaker 5: you know you could. I was trying to get into

495
00:21:23,066 --> 00:21:26,146
Speaker 5: Oklahoma at the time, that's home for us. And then

496
00:21:26,666 --> 00:21:29,266
Speaker 5: my brother knew some people on staff at Tulsa, and

497
00:21:29,466 --> 00:21:31,826
Speaker 5: I knew the head coach I had. My dad grew

498
00:21:31,906 --> 00:21:33,586
Speaker 5: up with the head coach at the time, Bill Blank

499
00:21:33,626 --> 00:21:36,626
Speaker 5: and Chip. So I just sent an email saying, Hey,

500
00:21:36,746 --> 00:21:39,186
Speaker 5: I'd love to get on staff here. I'll wash cars,

501
00:21:39,226 --> 00:21:42,226
Speaker 5: I'll find a place. I don't need anything, just let

502
00:21:42,266 --> 00:21:44,826
Speaker 5: me sit in your meeting room. And so he just

503
00:21:44,826 --> 00:21:47,266
Speaker 5: sent I spent in this long email. He just responds, Hey,

504
00:21:47,306 --> 00:21:49,826
Speaker 5: come see me. So next morning, jump in my car.

505
00:21:50,146 --> 00:21:52,066
Speaker 5: I'm sitting in front of his office at six o'clock.

506
00:21:52,306 --> 00:21:54,186
Speaker 5: His secretaryis, do you have an appointment? And said no,

507
00:21:54,386 --> 00:21:56,666
Speaker 5: he just said to come see him. I'm here. So

508
00:21:56,706 --> 00:21:58,306
Speaker 5: I just sat there and then we end up talking.

509
00:21:58,426 --> 00:22:00,466
Speaker 5: He's yeah, I got a roll for you, and you

510
00:22:00,546 --> 00:22:02,426
Speaker 5: come to this. I stay with in a basement at

511
00:22:02,466 --> 00:22:03,546
Speaker 5: some family friends And.

512
00:22:03,906 --> 00:22:05,586
Speaker 1: Is that right? So you're living in the basement of

513
00:22:05,586 --> 00:22:08,266
Speaker 1: a family friend's house and you're like, and this is

514
00:22:08,306 --> 00:22:10,986
Speaker 1: for an entry level job at a you know, Tulsa's

515
00:22:11,026 --> 00:22:13,746
Speaker 1: had some years, but it's not exactly Ohio State or Michigan.

516
00:22:13,906 --> 00:22:15,546
Speaker 5: No, not at all. But they'd had some good teams

517
00:22:15,546 --> 00:22:17,026
Speaker 5: and it was a good experience for me. And so

518
00:22:17,186 --> 00:22:20,466
Speaker 5: for the first five months I stayed in my mom's

519
00:22:20,466 --> 00:22:22,426
Speaker 5: sorority sisters family's basement.

520
00:22:22,866 --> 00:22:23,426
Speaker 1: I love this.

521
00:22:23,586 --> 00:22:26,106
Speaker 5: Didn't get paid and just trying to get some free

522
00:22:26,106 --> 00:22:27,866
Speaker 5: meals and hang out and learn some football.

523
00:22:27,906 --> 00:22:29,346
Speaker 1: Did you have a family at this point or are

524
00:22:29,386 --> 00:22:29,826
Speaker 1: you so low?

525
00:22:29,906 --> 00:22:30,106
Speaker 5: No?

526
00:22:30,106 --> 00:22:32,506
Speaker 2: No, no, solo, solo, so nothing to lose.

527
00:22:32,786 --> 00:22:34,946
Speaker 1: I want to be a coach. Yeah, and what a

528
00:22:34,986 --> 00:22:36,146
Speaker 1: lesson for everybody.

529
00:22:35,906 --> 00:22:38,666
Speaker 5: Right, just just kind of chasing dream, doing whatever is possible,

530
00:22:38,706 --> 00:22:40,786
Speaker 5: and you know, going to work. I just wanted my

531
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Speaker 5: foot in the door. I felt like I could, I

532
00:22:42,186 --> 00:22:43,706
Speaker 5: could earn my keep if I could get my foot

533
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Speaker 5: in the door, and that I was fortunate enough to

534
00:22:45,386 --> 00:22:46,226
Speaker 5: get that opportunity.

535
00:22:46,546 --> 00:22:48,946
Speaker 1: So then from Tulsa at that position, what's next?

536
00:22:49,346 --> 00:22:51,426
Speaker 5: So I'm at Tulsa for two years. My second year

537
00:22:51,466 --> 00:22:54,626
Speaker 5: at Tulsa, so really I spent that first six months

538
00:22:54,626 --> 00:22:57,746
Speaker 5: with the DFO time director Football Operations, just helping him.

539
00:22:58,226 --> 00:23:00,666
Speaker 5: But I'm in meetings, I'm around all of a sudden,

540
00:23:00,706 --> 00:23:03,866
Speaker 5: the GA that's coaching quarterbacks because we didn't have a

541
00:23:03,906 --> 00:23:06,106
Speaker 5: quarterback coach. The time goes to LSU. He had a

542
00:23:06,146 --> 00:23:10,386
Speaker 5: pre relationship with Steve Kragthorpe. Steve Kragthorpe's the PC at

543
00:23:10,466 --> 00:23:12,866
Speaker 5: LSU at the time, takes this guy with him. Well,

544
00:23:12,866 --> 00:23:17,666
Speaker 5: there's an opportunity now for a GA position in coaching quarterbacks.

545
00:23:17,906 --> 00:23:20,586
Speaker 5: So I was given that opportunity because kind of, you know,

546
00:23:20,706 --> 00:23:23,666
Speaker 5: my four or five months of being there, being around

547
00:23:23,666 --> 00:23:25,986
Speaker 5: those guys, the head coach, we've gotten to know each

548
00:23:25,986 --> 00:23:28,666
Speaker 5: other well, and I guess I'd earned his trust. So

549
00:23:28,666 --> 00:23:30,706
Speaker 5: it gave me this opportunity coach at quarterbacks. So then

550
00:23:31,786 --> 00:23:33,666
Speaker 5: meet my wife my second year there, which I think

551
00:23:33,706 --> 00:23:36,306
Speaker 5: is an important part of my story, but she would

552
00:23:36,306 --> 00:23:36,786
Speaker 5: say it is.

553
00:23:38,666 --> 00:23:39,026
Speaker 1: The record.

554
00:23:39,066 --> 00:23:44,306
Speaker 5: Ye, So meet her there, and then the summer before

555
00:23:44,906 --> 00:23:47,906
Speaker 5: my second year at Tulsa, my brother is in his

556
00:23:47,946 --> 00:23:49,906
Speaker 5: first year as a quarterback coach at the Dolphins, or

557
00:23:50,266 --> 00:23:52,946
Speaker 5: he might have been assistant quarterbacks coach time. So we're

558
00:23:52,986 --> 00:23:55,066
Speaker 5: going down on a family trip to Disney World, I

559
00:23:55,066 --> 00:23:57,306
Speaker 5: think it was. So we're hanging out. It's the last

560
00:23:57,386 --> 00:23:58,946
Speaker 5: day there in the office. So I'm just hanging out

561
00:23:58,946 --> 00:24:02,386
Speaker 5: in his office. Well, Chip Kelly comes through. Chip was

562
00:24:02,386 --> 00:24:04,746
Speaker 5: at Oregon at the time, had some NFL interests at

563
00:24:04,746 --> 00:24:08,306
Speaker 5: the time, but was going back to organ So you know,

564
00:24:08,306 --> 00:24:09,786
Speaker 5: we get a chance to talk to one of the

565
00:24:09,826 --> 00:24:13,226
Speaker 5: revolutionary minds and the football time. So we're just firing

566
00:24:13,266 --> 00:24:16,306
Speaker 5: off questions. He leaves the room. We're typing out everything

567
00:24:16,306 --> 00:24:18,946
Speaker 5: you said. Just we're note takers. That's that's kind of

568
00:24:18,986 --> 00:24:20,866
Speaker 5: what we did. When are you talking about how do

569
00:24:20,906 --> 00:24:21,626
Speaker 5: you practice?

570
00:24:22,186 --> 00:24:24,426
Speaker 1: I want it for the listeners because if you, if you,

571
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:25,786
Speaker 1: if you just fly in and you're.

572
00:24:25,666 --> 00:24:25,946
Speaker 4: Like, all right.

573
00:24:26,026 --> 00:24:28,906
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly a coached for the Eagles and Fort Niners

574
00:24:28,906 --> 00:24:31,306
Speaker 1: and whatever he's coach. You see, there was a five

575
00:24:31,386 --> 00:24:34,146
Speaker 1: year window when he was in Oregon where every NFL coach,

576
00:24:34,306 --> 00:24:36,666
Speaker 1: like if you were asked them, who's most innovative offense?

577
00:24:36,706 --> 00:24:38,746
Speaker 1: One in it was Chip Kelly and it wasn't even

578
00:24:38,746 --> 00:24:39,946
Speaker 1: a question, no.

579
00:24:39,706 --> 00:24:41,986
Speaker 5: Not at all. So this so the chance to sit

580
00:24:42,026 --> 00:24:43,706
Speaker 5: there for three hours with this guy in a room,

581
00:24:43,786 --> 00:24:45,506
Speaker 5: just my brother and I and him and some other

582
00:24:45,546 --> 00:24:48,626
Speaker 5: coaches in and out was invaluable. So we're just firing

583
00:24:48,666 --> 00:24:51,466
Speaker 5: off questions talking all that go our separate ways. That

584
00:24:51,666 --> 00:24:55,306
Speaker 5: was cool. A year later, he ends up taking after

585
00:24:55,346 --> 00:24:58,546
Speaker 5: that season, ends up taking the Eagles job. There's a

586
00:24:58,626 --> 00:25:01,066
Speaker 5: guy on stab at Greg Austin, who was a GA

587
00:25:01,226 --> 00:25:04,826
Speaker 5: form at the time at Oregon, Okay, was actually an

588
00:25:04,826 --> 00:25:07,786
Speaker 5: offensive lineman from a brother at Nebraska. When my brother's

589
00:25:07,786 --> 00:25:11,266
Speaker 5: playing quarterback, Okay, Greg calls me. I'm on a walk,

590
00:25:11,706 --> 00:25:13,986
Speaker 5: you know, along the river in Tulsa with my girlfriend

591
00:25:13,986 --> 00:25:17,746
Speaker 5: at the time. He calls and says, hey, I'm going

592
00:25:17,786 --> 00:25:20,546
Speaker 5: to Philly with Chip. We're talking, We're throwing around names,

593
00:25:20,666 --> 00:25:22,466
Speaker 5: trying to find we need a young guy that can

594
00:25:22,506 --> 00:25:26,026
Speaker 5: work with quarterbacks, can work for nothing as long as

595
00:25:26,546 --> 00:25:28,266
Speaker 5: that we need to and so I said, I'm in.

596
00:25:28,546 --> 00:25:30,546
Speaker 5: They didn't talk about pay, we didn't talk about title,

597
00:25:30,546 --> 00:25:31,826
Speaker 5: we didn't talk about I said I'm there.

598
00:25:31,826 --> 00:25:34,266
Speaker 1: Did you ask your girlfriend on the walk? Are we in?

599
00:25:34,666 --> 00:25:37,906
Speaker 5: You just said at that time I didn't. I said, yeah,

600
00:25:37,946 --> 00:25:41,306
Speaker 5: I'm in it. So I just signed up without knowing

601
00:25:41,346 --> 00:25:43,466
Speaker 5: what was going on, and it worked out. They brought

602
00:25:43,466 --> 00:25:46,066
Speaker 5: me in, ended up getting on staff there, and that

603
00:25:46,146 --> 00:25:47,306
Speaker 5: was kind of how I got my foot in.

604
00:25:47,746 --> 00:25:50,826
Speaker 1: I remember that first, the first summer with Chip, and

605
00:25:50,866 --> 00:25:52,266
Speaker 1: it was like, first of all, you guys are the

606
00:25:52,266 --> 00:25:54,506
Speaker 1: first to like put the geo trackers on every fire,

607
00:25:54,626 --> 00:25:57,146
Speaker 1: and it was like this modern sports science And I'm

608
00:25:57,146 --> 00:25:58,906
Speaker 1: not mocking at all because I think it's a it's

609
00:25:58,906 --> 00:26:02,186
Speaker 1: the standard now. The time there was about thirty articles

610
00:26:02,226 --> 00:26:04,786
Speaker 1: about it and brought in all these different experts. And

611
00:26:04,786 --> 00:26:08,026
Speaker 1: then the other thing was you got if I'm not mistaken.

612
00:26:08,106 --> 00:26:11,746
Speaker 1: In the quarterbacks room, it was like Bradford Sanchez Tebow like,

613
00:26:11,786 --> 00:26:13,026
Speaker 1: it was everyone right.

614
00:26:13,146 --> 00:26:15,106
Speaker 5: We had everybody roll through there. When we first get there,

615
00:26:15,186 --> 00:26:18,906
Speaker 5: it's Michael Vick, Nick Foles in the room right there,

616
00:26:18,946 --> 00:26:21,786
Speaker 5: and then it goes. We ended up at Barkley Sanchez,

617
00:26:22,466 --> 00:26:24,626
Speaker 5: Sam Bradford. You know, we had a t bow came through.

618
00:26:24,626 --> 00:26:26,146
Speaker 5: We had all these guys kind of rolled through there.

619
00:26:26,186 --> 00:26:28,706
Speaker 5: So it's really cool, you know, looking back on that

620
00:26:28,746 --> 00:26:29,506
Speaker 5: three year experience.

621
00:26:29,546 --> 00:26:32,226
Speaker 1: Yeah, different quarterback types to work with, right, Like, and

622
00:26:32,306 --> 00:26:34,226
Speaker 1: how does that impact you as a coach or a

623
00:26:34,266 --> 00:26:37,026
Speaker 1: young assistant working with them? Like, Okay, here are five

624
00:26:37,066 --> 00:26:40,106
Speaker 1: different players, five different skill sets, but let's try to

625
00:26:40,106 --> 00:26:41,426
Speaker 1: do what we can to make it work for all

626
00:26:41,466 --> 00:26:42,146
Speaker 1: of them exactly.

627
00:26:42,186 --> 00:26:43,466
Speaker 5: And we kind of tinkered, you know, we had a

628
00:26:43,506 --> 00:26:45,786
Speaker 5: different starter every year. We kind of tinkered the system

629
00:26:45,826 --> 00:26:48,226
Speaker 5: every single year. And it was that was cool because

630
00:26:48,266 --> 00:26:50,866
Speaker 5: with Chip nothing was off the table. It was what

631
00:26:50,906 --> 00:26:54,426
Speaker 5: can we do? And then you know, the way he teaches,

632
00:26:54,466 --> 00:26:57,426
Speaker 5: the way he thinks, it was very forward thinking. So

633
00:26:57,426 --> 00:26:59,306
Speaker 5: it's fun. You know, we're kind of just a think

634
00:26:59,346 --> 00:27:01,866
Speaker 5: tank of we can try to do whatever we want

635
00:27:01,946 --> 00:27:02,706
Speaker 5: any sort of way.

636
00:27:02,786 --> 00:27:04,946
Speaker 1: So we have how deep would you guys go? Would

637
00:27:04,946 --> 00:27:06,706
Speaker 1: you go to like Division III? Like what do you

638
00:27:06,706 --> 00:27:08,866
Speaker 1: look for when anything? Any high school?

639
00:27:08,946 --> 00:27:11,186
Speaker 5: Should kind of cut his teeth coaching at New Hampshire

640
00:27:11,826 --> 00:27:14,106
Speaker 5: and so it was, you know, we'd watched clips. Here's

641
00:27:14,106 --> 00:27:16,546
Speaker 5: what we did at New Hampshire. We'd have install tapes

642
00:27:16,626 --> 00:27:18,466
Speaker 5: of a New Hampshire play and sometimes you get the

643
00:27:18,466 --> 00:27:21,186
Speaker 5: players looking at you sideways. And then we'd introduce it

644
00:27:21,226 --> 00:27:23,146
Speaker 5: and we'd kind of turn it into our own thing

645
00:27:23,146 --> 00:27:24,546
Speaker 5: and see if it worked. Maybe it'd make it to

646
00:27:24,586 --> 00:27:27,026
Speaker 5: a game, maybe it wouldn't, but we or we just

647
00:27:27,066 --> 00:27:29,226
Speaker 5: get access to it to coaches, and you know, maybe

648
00:27:29,226 --> 00:27:30,906
Speaker 5: it just got left on the cutting room floor, but

649
00:27:31,466 --> 00:27:34,066
Speaker 5: you're seeing all this and you're seeing that football's football,

650
00:27:34,146 --> 00:27:36,706
Speaker 5: regardless of the level. If we can make it work

651
00:27:36,706 --> 00:27:38,426
Speaker 5: in our system and explain it to our guys and

652
00:27:38,586 --> 00:27:40,826
Speaker 5: understand it and teach it, why can't we do it?

653
00:27:41,346 --> 00:27:43,666
Speaker 5: So we were always it felt like just this think

654
00:27:43,706 --> 00:27:45,666
Speaker 5: tank of football, and it was awesome.

655
00:27:45,626 --> 00:27:48,546
Speaker 1: That first year with Chip, and then obviously Chip gets

656
00:27:48,786 --> 00:27:51,826
Speaker 1: shown the door and incomes Doug Peterson. How do you

657
00:27:51,866 --> 00:27:53,746
Speaker 1: stay on staff? How do you ingrain yourself with a

658
00:27:53,786 --> 00:27:56,546
Speaker 1: whole new crew of guys? And I guess for the

659
00:27:56,586 --> 00:28:00,426
Speaker 1: coaching lifeers listening here like is there survivor's guilty for

660
00:28:00,506 --> 00:28:02,066
Speaker 1: something like that, we were like, well, some of my

661
00:28:02,106 --> 00:28:04,426
Speaker 1: guys haven't been knocked out, but I'm still here and

662
00:28:04,426 --> 00:28:05,586
Speaker 1: I've got a family to provide for.

663
00:28:05,746 --> 00:28:08,426
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean you know, I'm kind of looking

664
00:28:08,506 --> 00:28:10,266
Speaker 5: i'd gotten married at the time I got married in

665
00:28:10,306 --> 00:28:12,706
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen, that was the year that was Chip's last

666
00:28:12,746 --> 00:28:15,706
Speaker 5: season in Philly. So then Chip goes to San Francisco.

667
00:28:16,106 --> 00:28:18,026
Speaker 5: We're just kind of in limbo as a coaching staff.

668
00:28:18,066 --> 00:28:20,146
Speaker 5: You know, they tell you, hey, you get an opportunity

669
00:28:20,186 --> 00:28:22,066
Speaker 5: to meet with this new coach. See how it goes.

670
00:28:22,106 --> 00:28:24,066
Speaker 5: It's his call. So I'm kind of thinking in the

671
00:28:24,106 --> 00:28:25,346
Speaker 5: back of my mind, like I'm going to have to

672
00:28:25,386 --> 00:28:28,346
Speaker 5: go to San Francisco. And I'm like, I'm newly married,

673
00:28:28,346 --> 00:28:30,346
Speaker 5: I'm a quality control. I'm not making enough money to

674
00:28:30,346 --> 00:28:32,346
Speaker 5: live out in San Francisco, So what am I going

675
00:28:32,426 --> 00:28:35,146
Speaker 5: to do? But I get a chance, obviously sit down

676
00:28:35,146 --> 00:28:38,826
Speaker 5: with coach Peterson. We just talk, kind of share. I

677
00:28:38,906 --> 00:28:41,706
Speaker 5: kind of shared my vision for myself, what I was doing,

678
00:28:41,746 --> 00:28:43,706
Speaker 5: what I want to do, where I came from all this,

679
00:28:44,546 --> 00:28:47,386
Speaker 5: and so he just wanted to keep me and said,

680
00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:49,746
Speaker 5: you know, I'm going to make you the assistant quarterbacks coach,

681
00:28:49,866 --> 00:28:52,506
Speaker 5: which was at the time of promotion and title. I'm

682
00:28:52,546 --> 00:28:54,786
Speaker 5: still a quality control, You're still breaking that. You're doing

683
00:28:54,826 --> 00:28:57,106
Speaker 5: the same stuff. You're just you get to your resume

684
00:28:57,146 --> 00:28:57,946
Speaker 5: sounds a little better.

685
00:28:58,226 --> 00:29:00,306
Speaker 1: It's amazing, and then Chip goes on to San fran

686
00:29:00,426 --> 00:29:02,506
Speaker 1: You stay with these guys and then is that where

687
00:29:02,546 --> 00:29:03,666
Speaker 1: you meet Frank Rake and the rest.

688
00:29:03,786 --> 00:29:06,426
Speaker 5: Yes, So Frank comes in, John d. Filippa comes in

689
00:29:06,426 --> 00:29:09,906
Speaker 5: as the quarterback coach, and it was a little unprecedented

690
00:29:09,946 --> 00:29:12,146
Speaker 5: the time. They kept a lot of us. So Jeff

691
00:29:12,186 --> 00:29:14,906
Speaker 5: Stallin stays Jeff Sallen was brought in by Chip, he

692
00:29:14,986 --> 00:29:18,546
Speaker 5: stays on, Douce Staley stays on, Justin Peel stays on.

693
00:29:19,146 --> 00:29:20,706
Speaker 5: You know, there were a lot of us that kind

694
00:29:20,706 --> 00:29:23,426
Speaker 5: of stuck through. So we there was probably four or

695
00:29:23,466 --> 00:29:26,026
Speaker 5: five of us in the offensive staff room that were holdovers,

696
00:29:26,346 --> 00:29:28,786
Speaker 5: so we had a working relationship. But then that was

697
00:29:28,786 --> 00:29:31,386
Speaker 5: cool because Doug comes in. Doug brings what they're doing

698
00:29:31,386 --> 00:29:34,186
Speaker 5: with Andy. Frank brings in what he's done in his past.

699
00:29:34,346 --> 00:29:36,546
Speaker 5: John d. Flippo had been a coordinator, He brings in

700
00:29:36,626 --> 00:29:38,826
Speaker 5: what he's doing. And then four or five of us

701
00:29:38,866 --> 00:29:41,426
Speaker 5: have this idea of what we'd built with Chip, and

702
00:29:41,466 --> 00:29:44,186
Speaker 5: so we kind of meshed this whole system together and create,

703
00:29:44,946 --> 00:29:47,506
Speaker 5: you know, our offense at that time. So it's there's

704
00:29:47,506 --> 00:29:49,426
Speaker 5: bits and pieces of people say the Andy Reid system,

705
00:29:49,466 --> 00:29:52,266
Speaker 5: the chip spread, whatever it may be. But we just,

706
00:29:52,586 --> 00:29:54,346
Speaker 5: I mean, like you do any season, you just kind

707
00:29:54,346 --> 00:29:56,186
Speaker 5: of form it onto the players you have and what

708
00:29:56,346 --> 00:29:59,346
Speaker 5: you know and what you think presents issues for a defense.

709
00:30:00,306 --> 00:30:03,706
Speaker 1: That rookie year for Wentz goes well, he wins the job,

710
00:30:03,826 --> 00:30:06,146
Speaker 1: and then obviously he's having this MVP season and then

711
00:30:06,146 --> 00:30:08,786
Speaker 1: you go to Los Angeles and this much anticipated battle

712
00:30:08,826 --> 00:30:13,066
Speaker 1: against Goff and he goes down with a knee quickly.

713
00:30:13,586 --> 00:30:16,586
Speaker 1: Carson and you what was your relationship and you know

714
00:30:16,746 --> 00:30:19,066
Speaker 1: the toughness you saw from wins to kind of handle

715
00:30:19,866 --> 00:30:22,266
Speaker 1: that situation where we're gonna go on this ride and

716
00:30:22,306 --> 00:30:24,586
Speaker 1: you're on the team, but gosh, you're not the one

717
00:30:24,586 --> 00:30:25,746
Speaker 1: throwing the passes in the big game.

718
00:30:25,866 --> 00:30:27,386
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's the tough part of it. Again,

719
00:30:27,386 --> 00:30:30,266
Speaker 5: I'm assistant quarterback coach, so I'm more more or less

720
00:30:30,266 --> 00:30:31,026
Speaker 5: a fly on the wall.

721
00:30:31,066 --> 00:30:31,186
Speaker 1: Now.

722
00:30:31,186 --> 00:30:34,586
Speaker 5: I'm offering input to Frank and coach Y Filippo and

723
00:30:34,626 --> 00:30:37,386
Speaker 5: all that, and I'm a sounding board for the quarterbacks

724
00:30:37,386 --> 00:30:39,706
Speaker 5: as well. So I got good relationship with all those guys.

725
00:30:41,106 --> 00:30:44,386
Speaker 5: But Carson goes down, Nick steps in. I'd been there

726
00:30:44,546 --> 00:30:47,266
Speaker 5: when we originally had Nick, so Nick was there with Chip.

727
00:30:47,706 --> 00:30:51,346
Speaker 5: We end up, you know, trading Nick for Sam Bradford. Well,

728
00:30:51,386 --> 00:30:54,506
Speaker 5: that Carson's rookie year. Obviously, we trade Sam to Minnesota.

729
00:30:54,626 --> 00:30:56,906
Speaker 5: Carson steps in and ends up starting that rookie year,

730
00:30:57,266 --> 00:31:00,306
Speaker 5: bring Nick back in as the backup in seventeen. So

731
00:31:00,386 --> 00:31:03,746
Speaker 5: we had a previous relationship under a different staff.

732
00:31:04,066 --> 00:31:06,866
Speaker 1: Talk Nick out of retirement, if I'm not mistaken, Yeah.

733
00:31:06,666 --> 00:31:09,466
Speaker 5: I think Nick was borderline retirement there for a while

734
00:31:09,466 --> 00:31:12,706
Speaker 5: after after a stint away Kansas City, Yeah, and then

735
00:31:12,786 --> 00:31:16,146
Speaker 5: came back through. So yeah, so we came in and

736
00:31:16,466 --> 00:31:18,626
Speaker 5: Carson goes down, and then it just kind of quickly

737
00:31:18,666 --> 00:31:21,266
Speaker 5: as an offensive staff, as quick as we could, we

738
00:31:21,426 --> 00:31:24,306
Speaker 5: pivot more to the thing that Nick does well. And

739
00:31:24,346 --> 00:31:26,546
Speaker 5: a lot of that was going back to the success

740
00:31:26,546 --> 00:31:29,346
Speaker 5: he had under Chip. Some of the play action concepts,

741
00:31:29,386 --> 00:31:32,746
Speaker 5: some of the RPO game that we developed in that system,

742
00:31:33,226 --> 00:31:35,386
Speaker 5: we'd still had in our system, and we just kind

743
00:31:35,386 --> 00:31:37,426
Speaker 5: of pulled it back out of the playbook and featured

744
00:31:37,466 --> 00:31:39,386
Speaker 5: it a little bit more, and then we're able to

745
00:31:39,466 --> 00:31:41,266
Speaker 5: kind of create this run with Nick late in the year.

746
00:31:41,506 --> 00:31:44,026
Speaker 1: Yeah. Your relationship with Foals, you guys are tight, right.

747
00:31:44,346 --> 00:31:47,866
Speaker 5: Yeah. So when I got married, my wife comes out.

748
00:31:48,026 --> 00:31:50,466
Speaker 5: Nick's wife and my wife really hit it off. We

749
00:31:50,546 --> 00:31:52,346
Speaker 5: end up having kids at the same time. We both

750
00:31:52,346 --> 00:31:55,706
Speaker 5: have daughters. They end up being close, So really they

751
00:31:55,746 --> 00:31:58,986
Speaker 5: started a friendship. We have a professional relationship and then

752
00:31:59,026 --> 00:32:01,026
Speaker 5: you know, you spend time in the off season when

753
00:32:01,026 --> 00:32:03,426
Speaker 5: they're around, getting dinner together something like that. So we

754
00:32:03,506 --> 00:32:05,906
Speaker 5: developed a friendship through that. Yeah, so that was cool.

755
00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:09,786
Speaker 1: I've said this before. I got killed for it on

756
00:32:10,186 --> 00:32:12,986
Speaker 1: It was after you guys beat the Bears in that

757
00:32:13,026 --> 00:32:15,666
Speaker 1: playoff game, the Cody Parky double dooint game, and I

758
00:32:15,706 --> 00:32:17,186
Speaker 1: came on camera and said, I don't care if it's

759
00:32:17,226 --> 00:32:18,906
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, I don't care if it's Peyton Manning, I

760
00:32:18,906 --> 00:32:21,506
Speaker 1: don't care who it is. And if I need one

761
00:32:21,706 --> 00:32:24,706
Speaker 1: drive and one game, I think I'm going with Foles.

762
00:32:24,746 --> 00:32:26,346
Speaker 1: And it was one of those deals where an NFL

763
00:32:26,386 --> 00:32:28,186
Speaker 1: network put that out there and it was like a

764
00:32:28,226 --> 00:32:30,546
Speaker 1: press release and it was on Instagram. And I still

765
00:32:30,586 --> 00:32:32,386
Speaker 1: to this day people call me a clown for it,

766
00:32:32,466 --> 00:32:35,146
Speaker 1: and yet I quietly in certain corners, we'll look around

767
00:32:35,186 --> 00:32:38,586
Speaker 1: and be like I stand by like fools. When the

768
00:32:38,586 --> 00:32:40,266
Speaker 1: game was on the line, there was maybe no one

769
00:32:40,266 --> 00:32:41,146
Speaker 1: better than Nick Foles.

770
00:32:41,266 --> 00:32:43,946
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did a great job. He rose the challenge.

771
00:32:44,186 --> 00:32:48,026
Speaker 5: Those two and seventeen, the NFC Championship against Minnesota and

772
00:32:48,066 --> 00:32:50,146
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl against the Patriots are two of the

773
00:32:50,146 --> 00:32:54,586
Speaker 5: best quarterback performances and modern folks to sit there and

774
00:32:54,586 --> 00:32:57,386
Speaker 5: watch him play and yeah, exactly. I mean, I think

775
00:32:57,426 --> 00:32:59,226
Speaker 5: he played as well as anybody has and those two

776
00:32:59,306 --> 00:33:01,266
Speaker 5: and for the moment they were you know, it's not

777
00:33:01,306 --> 00:33:03,306
Speaker 5: just some regular season game this guy pulls and they're

778
00:33:03,466 --> 00:33:06,106
Speaker 5: two of the biggest games and the franchise history at

779
00:33:06,106 --> 00:33:09,026
Speaker 5: the time, and so he to play the way he

780
00:33:09,066 --> 00:33:09,946
Speaker 5: did was awesome.

781
00:33:10,346 --> 00:33:15,226
Speaker 1: You go to the Colts after the Eagles, that's you know,

782
00:33:15,266 --> 00:33:17,626
Speaker 1: with Frank and then you end up in Jacksonville with

783
00:33:17,706 --> 00:33:22,146
Speaker 1: Doug last year. You get there first time where it's like, Okay,

784
00:33:22,666 --> 00:33:25,146
Speaker 1: yes Doug is an offensive coach, but it's really your offense.

785
00:33:25,786 --> 00:33:27,706
Speaker 1: The change when you get that title and you get

786
00:33:27,706 --> 00:33:29,786
Speaker 1: the opportunity to kind of move that with this young

787
00:33:29,906 --> 00:33:35,186
Speaker 1: quarterback Trevor Lawrence, especially coming off what was just you know,

788
00:33:35,266 --> 00:33:37,626
Speaker 1: a forgettable first season with Trevor, Like, what was that like?

789
00:33:37,666 --> 00:33:38,906
Speaker 1: Going into that That.

790
00:33:38,946 --> 00:33:40,946
Speaker 5: Was fun because it was kind of a clean slate.

791
00:33:41,066 --> 00:33:43,106
Speaker 5: You know, rarely do you walk into a situation where

792
00:33:43,106 --> 00:33:45,586
Speaker 5: you have this first round kid that you know, generational

793
00:33:45,626 --> 00:33:46,986
Speaker 5: talent that gets thrown around a lot.

794
00:33:47,026 --> 00:33:47,666
Speaker 1: But that was it.

795
00:33:47,746 --> 00:33:50,586
Speaker 5: But you know, honestly struggled his rookie year. He's the

796
00:33:50,626 --> 00:33:52,826
Speaker 5: first to admit that. And so but you get this

797
00:33:53,466 --> 00:33:55,786
Speaker 5: basically piece of clay, and the type of kitty is

798
00:33:55,826 --> 00:33:58,866
Speaker 5: obviously becomes a big deal. But you've got a clean

799
00:33:58,906 --> 00:34:01,226
Speaker 5: slate to work with. We've got money to spend that,

800
00:34:01,426 --> 00:34:03,186
Speaker 5: you know, the front office was willing to spend and

801
00:34:03,226 --> 00:34:05,026
Speaker 5: go out and invest in the receivers and the people

802
00:34:05,066 --> 00:34:08,186
Speaker 5: around him. And then again we put together a pretty

803
00:34:08,186 --> 00:34:11,426
Speaker 5: cool coaching staff and kind of made our own system.

804
00:34:11,586 --> 00:34:13,986
Speaker 5: So we take what we'd done in Philly that Doug

805
00:34:14,026 --> 00:34:17,706
Speaker 5: and I are familiar with. Phil Rausher comes in from Minnesota,

806
00:34:17,746 --> 00:34:20,386
Speaker 5: you know, kind of in the coming from the Kubiak system,

807
00:34:20,946 --> 00:34:23,986
Speaker 5: Jim Bob Cooter and Mike McCoy coming from more or

808
00:34:24,066 --> 00:34:27,666
Speaker 5: less the Peyton manning Philip Rivers passing game, which was

809
00:34:27,706 --> 00:34:30,666
Speaker 5: something I was familiar with being with Frank Reich and Indy.

810
00:34:31,186 --> 00:34:33,306
Speaker 5: So we the three of us kind of have our

811
00:34:33,346 --> 00:34:35,786
Speaker 5: own language in the past game. Doug and I have

812
00:34:35,906 --> 00:34:39,386
Speaker 5: our language from Philly. Phil kind of has these revolutionary

813
00:34:39,426 --> 00:34:42,426
Speaker 5: ideas from and on in our world, revolutionary ideas from

814
00:34:42,666 --> 00:34:45,506
Speaker 5: the Kubiak system, the Shanahan thing taking over, and so

815
00:34:45,546 --> 00:34:48,466
Speaker 5: we just kind of put this together and then we

816
00:34:48,746 --> 00:34:53,186
Speaker 5: molded around this really special young quarterback, you know, bringing

817
00:34:53,226 --> 00:34:56,986
Speaker 5: in Christian Kirk, Zay Jones, Evan Ingram, Travis, etn. And

818
00:34:57,026 --> 00:34:58,866
Speaker 5: just kind of tried to have massage it to fit

819
00:34:58,986 --> 00:35:01,826
Speaker 5: our skill set, the skill set of the guys around him,

820
00:35:01,826 --> 00:35:05,266
Speaker 5: and be creative and you know, again with Doug, Doug's

821
00:35:05,346 --> 00:35:07,786
Speaker 5: encouraging us to to think out of the box and

822
00:35:08,066 --> 00:35:11,066
Speaker 5: do whatever we need to do to create the offense

823
00:35:11,066 --> 00:35:11,906
Speaker 5: that we're going to become.

824
00:35:12,306 --> 00:35:16,706
Speaker 1: Two different. Trevor Lawrence questions A when did you first

825
00:35:16,746 --> 00:35:18,226
Speaker 1: see And it could have been the first practice he

826
00:35:18,266 --> 00:35:20,546
Speaker 1: laid eyes on him, like this guy's special. When was

827
00:35:20,546 --> 00:35:22,666
Speaker 1: that moment for you where you're like, ooh, this is

828
00:35:22,706 --> 00:35:23,346
Speaker 1: something different.

829
00:35:23,626 --> 00:35:27,426
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think just watching him throw through the OTA process,

830
00:35:27,506 --> 00:35:30,226
Speaker 5: just routes on air, it's like this is the ball

831
00:35:30,546 --> 00:35:32,106
Speaker 5: never hits the ground, you know, it's just kind of

832
00:35:32,106 --> 00:35:33,826
Speaker 5: that type of thing where it's on air, that's what

833
00:35:33,906 --> 00:35:36,546
Speaker 5: you'd expect. But you know, he was special in that

834
00:35:36,586 --> 00:35:40,346
Speaker 5: regard and I'd been around really good high picks, you know,

835
00:35:40,666 --> 00:35:43,546
Speaker 5: Michael Vick, Sam Bradford, those type of Carson went. You've

836
00:35:43,546 --> 00:35:45,786
Speaker 5: been around those high picks and you'd seen it and

837
00:35:45,826 --> 00:35:48,906
Speaker 5: you're like, okay, it's on par with that, it's special.

838
00:35:50,066 --> 00:35:52,226
Speaker 5: And then just getting to be around him through the

839
00:35:52,226 --> 00:35:54,426
Speaker 5: off season, you're like, this guy's are really laid back.

840
00:35:54,466 --> 00:35:56,386
Speaker 5: You know, nothing seems to bother him. He doesn't get

841
00:35:56,586 --> 00:35:58,146
Speaker 5: but you don't know, you haven't been in any fire

842
00:35:58,226 --> 00:36:00,506
Speaker 5: with him. Yeah, go through the season, we kind of

843
00:36:00,546 --> 00:36:03,066
Speaker 5: start out highs and lows. You know things are going good.

844
00:36:03,106 --> 00:36:05,866
Speaker 5: We hit a little rough patch, but you believe like

845
00:36:05,906 --> 00:36:08,466
Speaker 5: this guy's and special. But the mindset I think really

846
00:36:08,546 --> 00:36:12,386
Speaker 5: showed up to me particularly was the Baltimore game. That's

847
00:36:12,426 --> 00:36:14,026
Speaker 5: kind of where we started to hit our stride where

848
00:36:14,026 --> 00:36:15,906
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter we need a drive to win the

849
00:36:15,946 --> 00:36:18,586
Speaker 5: game and he looks like he's just playing catch in

850
00:36:18,586 --> 00:36:20,826
Speaker 5: the backyard. You could feel from the press box you

851
00:36:20,906 --> 00:36:24,706
Speaker 5: can feel this momentum building and the way the kid's playing,

852
00:36:25,506 --> 00:36:27,426
Speaker 5: the confidence, the way he's throwing the ball. I mean,

853
00:36:27,466 --> 00:36:29,026
Speaker 5: you're just watching him throw it and you kind of

854
00:36:29,066 --> 00:36:31,826
Speaker 5: know there's a little more conviction in that. You see

855
00:36:31,866 --> 00:36:33,546
Speaker 5: the passion come out and the way we win the

856
00:36:33,546 --> 00:36:35,746
Speaker 5: game and all that. So you start to see that,

857
00:36:35,826 --> 00:36:38,226
Speaker 5: you start to think, like, Okay, this mindset thing with

858
00:36:38,266 --> 00:36:42,666
Speaker 5: the kids real. He is steady, he's even keeled, he's composed,

859
00:36:43,026 --> 00:36:46,386
Speaker 5: but he's passionate, like he is a fiery fighter. And

860
00:36:46,586 --> 00:36:47,906
Speaker 5: that's kind of just what you wanted to see. You

861
00:36:47,906 --> 00:36:48,666
Speaker 5: hadn't really seen it.

862
00:36:49,426 --> 00:36:53,346
Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course you know, the great high school player,

863
00:36:53,346 --> 00:36:55,346
Speaker 1: a great college player. But after the first year of

864
00:36:55,386 --> 00:36:56,626
Speaker 1: the pros, it's like, all right, well that doesn't mean

865
00:36:56,626 --> 00:36:59,386
Speaker 1: anything in the NFL. Sure, And to hear that he's

866
00:36:59,386 --> 00:37:02,226
Speaker 1: a laid back. I don't know Trevor. I've never interviewed him.

867
00:37:02,226 --> 00:37:04,986
Speaker 1: I don't know him, but everyone says he is as

868
00:37:05,026 --> 00:37:06,906
Speaker 1: authentic as it comes. He is who he is. He's

869
00:37:06,946 --> 00:37:09,826
Speaker 1: not trying to put on airs and either you know

870
00:37:09,866 --> 00:37:11,946
Speaker 1: the players, they all love him. So what is that

871
00:37:12,026 --> 00:37:13,946
Speaker 1: quality that you see from him that really makes him

872
00:37:13,986 --> 00:37:14,426
Speaker 1: stand out?

873
00:37:14,906 --> 00:37:17,066
Speaker 5: That's the big Honestly, we were playing We played golf

874
00:37:17,106 --> 00:37:19,546
Speaker 5: with a couple buddies two or three days ago, and

875
00:37:19,586 --> 00:37:21,386
Speaker 5: I had a buddy that's a Jags friend that didn't

876
00:37:21,386 --> 00:37:22,786
Speaker 5: know him or anything like that, and we get off

877
00:37:22,826 --> 00:37:25,666
Speaker 5: He's like, is he always like that? Just chill? He said, yeah,

878
00:37:25,746 --> 00:37:27,666
Speaker 5: you know, I've never really seen him lose as cool

879
00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:30,106
Speaker 5: or anything like that. I've seen him getting tense and

880
00:37:30,466 --> 00:37:33,026
Speaker 5: a little more competitive, but he's pretty much just always

881
00:37:33,386 --> 00:37:36,226
Speaker 5: the same guy, even keeled, and I think just the

882
00:37:36,346 --> 00:37:39,866
Speaker 5: authenticity that he carries himself with guys appreciate that. He

883
00:37:40,346 --> 00:37:43,746
Speaker 5: is humble, but he's accountable. You know, if something goes wrong,

884
00:37:43,746 --> 00:37:46,026
Speaker 5: he's the first to say, that's all me. If whether

885
00:37:46,066 --> 00:37:48,386
Speaker 5: it's him or not, he's the quarterback, he's going to

886
00:37:48,426 --> 00:37:50,226
Speaker 5: stand there. He's going to take the arrows for his guys.

887
00:37:50,266 --> 00:37:52,906
Speaker 5: And I think guys see that and guys respond to that.

888
00:37:52,946 --> 00:37:54,786
Speaker 5: I mean, when you know what you're getting out of

889
00:37:54,826 --> 00:37:57,946
Speaker 5: a guy, you know he's got your back, you know

890
00:37:57,986 --> 00:37:59,746
Speaker 5: you're you're willing to fight a little extra for him.

891
00:37:59,746 --> 00:38:01,746
Speaker 5: And I think that's our players saw that from the jump,

892
00:38:01,746 --> 00:38:03,306
Speaker 5: because we brought in a lot of new guys that

893
00:38:03,786 --> 00:38:05,626
Speaker 5: you know, didn't know much about him other than the

894
00:38:05,706 --> 00:38:08,986
Speaker 5: hype and struggles his rookie year. But you know, he

895
00:38:09,066 --> 00:38:11,786
Speaker 5: quickly earned everybody's trust and the way he prepares and

896
00:38:11,786 --> 00:38:13,906
Speaker 5: the way he plays and the way he treats people now.

897
00:38:13,866 --> 00:38:15,386
Speaker 1: I'm going to get you on the board in the

898
00:38:15,426 --> 00:38:17,226
Speaker 1: All twenty two and you're gonna put the filmer on

899
00:38:18,346 --> 00:38:21,226
Speaker 1: your favorite Trevor Lawrence pass of the twenty twenty two season.

900
00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:25,306
Speaker 5: Oh man, there were some special ones. One of the ones,

901
00:38:25,306 --> 00:38:27,626
Speaker 5: I'd say that really kind of part of it was

902
00:38:27,666 --> 00:38:30,506
Speaker 5: the time in the season. Looking back now you realize

903
00:38:30,506 --> 00:38:33,626
Speaker 5: it was a spark. But we go honestly, we beat

904
00:38:33,666 --> 00:38:36,546
Speaker 5: Baltimore in this emotional comeback win. We go to Detroit

905
00:38:36,586 --> 00:38:38,266
Speaker 5: and just get our faces kicked in. I mean, we

906
00:38:38,306 --> 00:38:40,786
Speaker 5: fumble the second play of the game. They just ran

907
00:38:40,866 --> 00:38:43,586
Speaker 5: us up and Trevor gets dinged up pretty good. So

908
00:38:43,586 --> 00:38:46,586
Speaker 5: he's hurt. You know, we thought he tears his acl,

909
00:38:46,706 --> 00:38:48,866
Speaker 5: his ankle something like that. He comes back into this game,

910
00:38:48,906 --> 00:38:51,986
Speaker 5: we're already down thirty, fights his tail off for his guys.

911
00:38:52,226 --> 00:38:54,786
Speaker 5: That was cool to see. Don't practice much of the

912
00:38:54,826 --> 00:38:57,706
Speaker 5: week going. We're playing Tennessee at Tennessee, first time we're

913
00:38:57,706 --> 00:39:00,466
Speaker 5: playing them in season. So he's banged up. Yeah, so

914
00:39:00,506 --> 00:39:02,826
Speaker 5: he's banged up. We're not sure if he's going to play.

915
00:39:02,826 --> 00:39:03,026
Speaker 1: C J.

916
00:39:03,186 --> 00:39:06,026
Speaker 5: Betherd's ready to roll all week. You know, come Friday,

917
00:39:06,026 --> 00:39:08,866
Speaker 5: Trevis's I'm playing I'm good to go. So he comes

918
00:39:08,866 --> 00:39:11,426
Speaker 5: out again. We're trying to limit movements with him, protect

919
00:39:11,506 --> 00:39:14,186
Speaker 5: him a little bit. Well, you know, we just kind

920
00:39:14,186 --> 00:39:16,186
Speaker 5: of start rolling as an offense, throwing the ball over

921
00:39:16,266 --> 00:39:18,866
Speaker 5: the yard. We have a short, little five yard in

922
00:39:18,946 --> 00:39:20,986
Speaker 5: route to Evan Ingram singled up on the outside or

923
00:39:21,186 --> 00:39:23,106
Speaker 5: runner two by two, So he's outside at number one,

924
00:39:23,186 --> 00:39:25,546
Speaker 5: just gonna run a five yard in banging a completion.

925
00:39:25,746 --> 00:39:28,386
Speaker 5: Keep this change moving well, Trevor pumps him. Trevor gives

926
00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:30,586
Speaker 5: him a double move, just feeling something at the time.

927
00:39:30,626 --> 00:39:33,546
Speaker 5: You know, he'd been playing really well throughout the game.

928
00:39:33,786 --> 00:39:37,466
Speaker 5: Throws a double move. Evan doesn't necessarily win right away,

929
00:39:37,466 --> 00:39:39,106
Speaker 5: but Trevor puts in a spot where Evan's got a

930
00:39:39,146 --> 00:39:41,466
Speaker 5: chance to go get it, make a play that kind

931
00:39:41,506 --> 00:39:44,626
Speaker 5: of just right there showed you the confidence, the ownership

932
00:39:44,666 --> 00:39:47,746
Speaker 5: he had in the system himself. You know, I think

933
00:39:47,786 --> 00:39:50,626
Speaker 5: that game, he's thirty of forty two for three ninety

934
00:39:50,626 --> 00:39:52,866
Speaker 5: and three touchdowns, playing on a bad ad play on

935
00:39:52,906 --> 00:39:54,266
Speaker 5: a game we didn't even know if he'd play it,

936
00:39:54,946 --> 00:39:56,586
Speaker 5: and that really sparked us. I think that kind of

937
00:39:56,626 --> 00:39:58,626
Speaker 5: kicked us into a five six game win streak or

938
00:39:58,666 --> 00:39:59,786
Speaker 5: something like that at the time.

939
00:39:59,826 --> 00:40:02,546
Speaker 1: And it also shows the ceiling right like or the

940
00:40:02,626 --> 00:40:04,066
Speaker 1: unlimited like oh wait, he could do.

941
00:40:04,026 --> 00:40:06,666
Speaker 5: That exactly, and the confidence to do it. You know,

942
00:40:06,666 --> 00:40:08,986
Speaker 5: that's not something we necessarily we talked about, hey, you've

943
00:40:08,986 --> 00:40:11,506
Speaker 5: got the green when I coached to do that, not necessarily,

944
00:40:11,586 --> 00:40:13,666
Speaker 5: but he doesn't. He gives him a pump. He has

945
00:40:13,666 --> 00:40:15,586
Speaker 5: faith in his guys and he can throw it right

946
00:40:15,586 --> 00:40:17,786
Speaker 5: where he wants to throw it and guy makes a play.

947
00:40:17,826 --> 00:40:20,226
Speaker 5: So that for us as a coaching staff was like, Okay,

948
00:40:20,266 --> 00:40:22,786
Speaker 5: this guy's special. There's something different. He believes in this

949
00:40:22,866 --> 00:40:26,066
Speaker 5: his teammates. That was a big turning point for our

950
00:40:26,106 --> 00:40:28,226
Speaker 5: season there with that throw. But you know, there's a

951
00:40:28,306 --> 00:40:30,586
Speaker 5: number of other throws that you know in the Dallas

952
00:40:30,626 --> 00:40:32,266
Speaker 5: late in the Dallas game, I think it's fourth down,

953
00:40:32,306 --> 00:40:35,266
Speaker 5: he scrambling, he throws when it goes basically threw a

954
00:40:35,266 --> 00:40:38,026
Speaker 5: guy's hands over his head, hit Zay Jones, keeps us rolling,

955
00:40:38,546 --> 00:40:40,186
Speaker 5: walk off field, go. There are a couple things like

956
00:40:40,226 --> 00:40:43,546
Speaker 5: that that I could name a few that were just

957
00:40:43,626 --> 00:40:45,026
Speaker 5: special type throws.

958
00:40:45,306 --> 00:40:47,826
Speaker 1: And the potential for him unlimited.

959
00:40:47,746 --> 00:40:50,066
Speaker 5: Yeah, unlimited. I would I wouldn't put a ceiling on it,

960
00:40:50,186 --> 00:40:54,226
Speaker 5: just athletically where he is mentally where he is. You know,

961
00:40:54,426 --> 00:40:56,706
Speaker 5: hopefully we can keep this core together with him to

962
00:40:56,746 --> 00:40:58,866
Speaker 5: continue to grow around him because they all play really

963
00:40:58,906 --> 00:41:02,866
Speaker 5: well together. But you know, it's really fun to see

964
00:41:02,906 --> 00:41:05,346
Speaker 5: him just want to come in every single day and

965
00:41:05,346 --> 00:41:07,186
Speaker 5: get better and be a better play. That's the way

966
00:41:07,226 --> 00:41:09,226
Speaker 5: he attacks it and the way he carries himself.

967
00:41:09,506 --> 00:41:11,306
Speaker 1: I know how close you are with your brother Zach.

968
00:41:11,426 --> 00:41:14,186
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever you know, whether you're hanging out

969
00:41:14,186 --> 00:41:17,066
Speaker 1: at the family having a barbecue or just texting him like,

970
00:41:17,626 --> 00:41:19,906
Speaker 1: my guy's better than yours, Trevor would be Burrow, And

971
00:41:20,226 --> 00:41:21,706
Speaker 1: do you ever go like that way? Does it ever

972
00:41:21,746 --> 00:41:23,146
Speaker 1: get to that point where you guys like this is

973
00:41:23,186 --> 00:41:24,626
Speaker 1: my dude, that's really let's go.

974
00:41:26,226 --> 00:41:28,546
Speaker 5: I think we both I think it's both clear we

975
00:41:28,626 --> 00:41:31,666
Speaker 5: love the guy we're coaching right now. It's never come

976
00:41:31,706 --> 00:41:33,946
Speaker 5: down to my guys better than your guy. But I

977
00:41:33,946 --> 00:41:35,906
Speaker 5: think both of us would would stand on the table

978
00:41:35,946 --> 00:41:37,946
Speaker 5: for the guy we have right now. But it's fun

979
00:41:37,986 --> 00:41:39,746
Speaker 5: to see. I mean, we're just getting to work with

980
00:41:39,746 --> 00:41:41,626
Speaker 5: these two guys that are a special point in their

981
00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:42,266
Speaker 5: career right now.

982
00:41:42,466 --> 00:41:43,986
Speaker 1: And what a cool test when it is to your

983
00:41:43,986 --> 00:41:46,666
Speaker 1: family that you've got two brothers, and both of you

984
00:41:46,706 --> 00:41:48,946
Speaker 1: guys are in the ears of maybe the best two

985
00:41:48,986 --> 00:41:51,626
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks under a certain age in the NFL. And

986
00:41:52,386 --> 00:41:55,266
Speaker 1: your dynamic with Zach, like, are you watching games and

987
00:41:55,266 --> 00:41:56,866
Speaker 1: looking at like the corner of your eye at the scoreboard,

988
00:41:56,946 --> 00:41:58,466
Speaker 1: either rooting for him, we're doing against Like, are you

989
00:41:58,546 --> 00:41:59,866
Speaker 1: keeping an eye on what they're doing too?

990
00:41:59,986 --> 00:42:05,346
Speaker 5: Absolutely, that's my brother. I'm his biggest fan. So unless

991
00:42:05,346 --> 00:42:07,986
Speaker 5: it hinders the jag in some way, I'm rooting for

992
00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:09,786
Speaker 5: the Bengals always. So I always kind of keep an

993
00:42:09,786 --> 00:42:12,226
Speaker 5: eye on where the scores are in their games. Whenever

994
00:42:12,266 --> 00:42:14,346
Speaker 5: I get a chance, in between a drive and between

995
00:42:14,346 --> 00:42:17,946
Speaker 5: a quarter, whatever it may be, when my attention doesn't

996
00:42:17,946 --> 00:42:19,506
Speaker 5: have to be dialed in, you kind of catch the

997
00:42:19,546 --> 00:42:21,786
Speaker 5: scoreboard and say, oh, they're winning by four, they're in

998
00:42:21,786 --> 00:42:23,506
Speaker 5: a tight game, whatever it may be. You just keep

999
00:42:23,546 --> 00:42:25,866
Speaker 5: an eye on it. When we get a chance, we're

1000
00:42:25,906 --> 00:42:27,666
Speaker 5: not playing at the same time, I've got it on

1001
00:42:27,746 --> 00:42:28,746
Speaker 5: I'm watching the Bengals.

1002
00:42:28,986 --> 00:42:31,666
Speaker 1: What makes you guys different from each other? Obviously you

1003
00:42:31,706 --> 00:42:33,386
Speaker 1: see the last name, and you see that you guys

1004
00:42:33,386 --> 00:42:35,146
Speaker 1: both wanted to coach, and like your father, you're both

1005
00:42:35,186 --> 00:42:37,186
Speaker 1: coaching offenses and you're doing a great job at the

1006
00:42:37,306 --> 00:42:39,906
Speaker 1: NFL the highest level. What separates the two of you

1007
00:42:39,986 --> 00:42:41,506
Speaker 1: or what would you both say, Hey, if you look

1008
00:42:41,546 --> 00:42:43,026
Speaker 1: in the mirror, this is a long different than Zach.

1009
00:42:43,866 --> 00:42:45,986
Speaker 5: That's a good question. Honestly, I don't know. We've never

1010
00:42:46,066 --> 00:42:48,906
Speaker 5: worked together. You know, we've always shared ideas. I design,

1011
00:42:49,306 --> 00:42:51,386
Speaker 5: not necessarily I'd love to work with them at some

1012
00:42:51,426 --> 00:42:52,986
Speaker 5: point in time. I think that'd just be cool for

1013
00:42:53,066 --> 00:42:56,346
Speaker 5: us to get a chance to work together. But you know,

1014
00:42:56,386 --> 00:42:58,826
Speaker 5: our path is just never the right time to kind

1015
00:42:58,826 --> 00:43:01,186
Speaker 5: of get together. You know, he was a first taking

1016
00:43:01,426 --> 00:43:03,746
Speaker 5: his job as a first year coach, and you know,

1017
00:43:03,746 --> 00:43:06,746
Speaker 5: when I was coming out of Philly, it wasn't really

1018
00:43:06,786 --> 00:43:08,906
Speaker 5: he had two tough years in Cincinnati. It wasn't really

1019
00:43:08,906 --> 00:43:10,746
Speaker 5: the right time to bring your brother in and double

1020
00:43:10,786 --> 00:43:13,066
Speaker 5: down on that. So, you know, that one something that

1021
00:43:13,106 --> 00:43:15,746
Speaker 5: ever really came up. We never talked about, you know,

1022
00:43:15,826 --> 00:43:18,586
Speaker 5: doing this, not doing this. It was just I've got

1023
00:43:18,586 --> 00:43:20,546
Speaker 5: my path, you've got your path. Let's do our thing

1024
00:43:20,586 --> 00:43:22,386
Speaker 5: and root for each other from far. If it works

1025
00:43:22,386 --> 00:43:24,506
Speaker 5: out in the future, that would be awesome. But uh,

1026
00:43:25,266 --> 00:43:27,146
Speaker 5: I'm not I don't know if I could say what's

1027
00:43:27,266 --> 00:43:31,306
Speaker 5: necessarily different. We have a very similar demeanor. We've kind

1028
00:43:31,306 --> 00:43:33,666
Speaker 5: of come up in different paths, but at the same time,

1029
00:43:33,706 --> 00:43:36,466
Speaker 5: our paths have crossed and weird ways where we've been

1030
00:43:36,506 --> 00:43:40,226
Speaker 5: exposed to the same systems through different people. But you know,

1031
00:43:40,306 --> 00:43:43,746
Speaker 5: I think just the the element of like our environments

1032
00:43:43,746 --> 00:43:45,666
Speaker 5: are different at this point in time. So it's you know,

1033
00:43:45,706 --> 00:43:47,826
Speaker 5: he's doing what he needs to do to be the

1034
00:43:47,866 --> 00:43:49,586
Speaker 5: best coach for the Bengals, and I'm doing what I

1035
00:43:49,586 --> 00:43:51,426
Speaker 5: need to do to be the best office coordinator for

1036
00:43:51,506 --> 00:43:54,346
Speaker 5: the Jaguars. So you know, our offense is pivot at

1037
00:43:54,346 --> 00:43:56,946
Speaker 5: certain times, and whatever that may be is what it

1038
00:43:56,946 --> 00:43:59,146
Speaker 5: needs to be. We have different terminology. I know that

1039
00:43:59,226 --> 00:44:01,786
Speaker 5: we share enough ideas that I hear him talk and

1040
00:44:02,066 --> 00:44:04,706
Speaker 5: things sound different. But I watched them play and we

1041
00:44:04,786 --> 00:44:06,986
Speaker 5: run that play. You know, I may ask question about

1042
00:44:06,986 --> 00:44:09,506
Speaker 5: how you're coaching this one and steal some ideas off

1043
00:44:09,586 --> 00:44:10,986
Speaker 5: him because I have access to him.

1044
00:44:11,026 --> 00:44:14,346
Speaker 1: So Yeah, one of the things I loved about Zach

1045
00:44:14,426 --> 00:44:16,026
Speaker 1: last year. We've always you know, he had the Super

1046
00:44:16,026 --> 00:44:20,746
Speaker 1: Bowl run and then the obviously the horrible situation against Buffalo,

1047
00:44:20,826 --> 00:44:23,706
Speaker 1: and then you know, Zac should a little edge afterwards

1048
00:44:23,706 --> 00:44:25,306
Speaker 1: about the coin toss and all that stuff, and a

1049
00:44:25,306 --> 00:44:27,626
Speaker 1: little attitude kind of embodied like, hey, we're not the

1050
00:44:27,666 --> 00:44:30,546
Speaker 1: old Bengals, will you push us around anymore? Did you

1051
00:44:30,666 --> 00:44:32,506
Speaker 1: see that always from him, because that's the first time

1052
00:44:32,506 --> 00:44:34,546
Speaker 1: I think football fans saw that from Zach where there's

1053
00:44:34,546 --> 00:44:35,746
Speaker 1: a little bit of bite to him too.

1054
00:44:35,986 --> 00:44:40,426
Speaker 5: Oh. Absolutely, there's so much that you know, he to

1055
00:44:40,466 --> 00:44:42,946
Speaker 5: an extent lets people in, but he really it's coach

1056
00:44:42,946 --> 00:44:44,946
Speaker 5: speak when he's in front of people and in front

1057
00:44:44,946 --> 00:44:46,946
Speaker 5: of the media and things like that, which most guys are.

1058
00:44:47,026 --> 00:44:51,586
Speaker 5: So I know, I know the fiery competitive guy he is,

1059
00:44:51,666 --> 00:44:53,946
Speaker 5: and probably in front of his team too that they know,

1060
00:44:54,386 --> 00:44:56,786
Speaker 5: and you know, I've seen it as a competitor him

1061
00:44:56,786 --> 00:44:59,066
Speaker 5: growing up and watching him coach and talking to him,

1062
00:44:59,106 --> 00:45:01,946
Speaker 5: and you know, I know how aggressive his demeanor is,

1063
00:45:01,986 --> 00:45:04,106
Speaker 5: his mindset is, and then I also see what he

1064
00:45:04,106 --> 00:45:05,466
Speaker 5: puts in front of the media and all that. So

1065
00:45:05,786 --> 00:45:08,346
Speaker 5: I don't know that people have seen the true Zach

1066
00:45:08,586 --> 00:45:10,546
Speaker 5: that he presents in front of his team or that

1067
00:45:10,626 --> 00:45:13,906
Speaker 5: I know him as, but certainly proud of the way

1068
00:45:13,946 --> 00:45:16,426
Speaker 5: he presents himself and you know where he's gotten his

1069
00:45:16,466 --> 00:45:17,146
Speaker 5: team at this point.

1070
00:45:17,506 --> 00:45:19,906
Speaker 1: Dude, it's so cool that you're both doing it, obviously,

1071
00:45:19,986 --> 00:45:22,466
Speaker 1: but on an individual level. Your path has been great too,

1072
00:45:22,546 --> 00:45:24,546
Speaker 1: and now you're at this point and we look at

1073
00:45:24,546 --> 00:45:26,946
Speaker 1: this Jaguars team heading into twenty twenty three, just to

1074
00:45:26,946 --> 00:45:29,746
Speaker 1: bring it up to speed, a sexy pick for a

1075
00:45:29,746 --> 00:45:32,346
Speaker 1: lot of people, like it was there. They're on the cusp,

1076
00:45:32,386 --> 00:45:35,826
Speaker 1: they had Kansas City on the ropes. What's the message

1077
00:45:35,866 --> 00:45:37,866
Speaker 1: to the team going into twenty twenty eight three and

1078
00:45:37,906 --> 00:45:38,986
Speaker 1: is it one of those where it's like, don't read

1079
00:45:39,026 --> 00:45:40,906
Speaker 1: the headlines, just worry about ourselves.

1080
00:45:40,986 --> 00:45:42,586
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think we've always kind of been that way,

1081
00:45:42,626 --> 00:45:45,106
Speaker 5: even last year when we started out, and a lot

1082
00:45:45,106 --> 00:45:47,506
Speaker 5: of it stems from coach Peterson. You know, he's the

1083
00:45:47,626 --> 00:45:51,426
Speaker 5: same positive, optimistic, consistent guy every single day in front

1084
00:45:51,466 --> 00:45:54,106
Speaker 5: of the team, and we've always kept the focus on us.

1085
00:45:54,186 --> 00:45:55,866
Speaker 5: You know, we don't care if people are saying we're

1086
00:45:55,866 --> 00:45:58,426
Speaker 5: the same old Jaguars. Oh this is a new age thing.

1087
00:45:58,506 --> 00:46:00,666
Speaker 5: You know, they're they're up and coming team. None of

1088
00:46:00,666 --> 00:46:03,146
Speaker 5: that matters to us because the coolest thing about this

1089
00:46:03,186 --> 00:46:04,866
Speaker 5: thing is, you know, you got to go prove it

1090
00:46:04,866 --> 00:46:07,466
Speaker 5: for three hours every Sunday, and so none of it

1091
00:46:07,546 --> 00:46:11,026
Speaker 5: matters whether you're hyped, favored, underdog, whatever it may be.

1092
00:46:11,426 --> 00:46:14,546
Speaker 5: And our guys we have really high character players that

1093
00:46:14,666 --> 00:46:17,586
Speaker 5: understand that, and everybody kind of wants to prove that

1094
00:46:17,786 --> 00:46:19,426
Speaker 5: Sunday that we're ready to roll and we have an

1095
00:46:19,426 --> 00:46:21,866
Speaker 5: opportunity to win and we can put our best foot forward.

1096
00:46:21,906 --> 00:46:24,946
Speaker 5: So our focus has solely been on getting better, and

1097
00:46:24,986 --> 00:46:27,386
Speaker 5: that's the message from Coach Peterson. That's the message we

1098
00:46:27,426 --> 00:46:29,466
Speaker 5: relate to our players. That's the cool thing is you

1099
00:46:29,506 --> 00:46:32,626
Speaker 5: hear them say that. You know, we hear the expectations.

1100
00:46:32,666 --> 00:46:34,706
Speaker 5: It's hard not to hear all that. But I don't

1101
00:46:34,706 --> 00:46:36,746
Speaker 5: think any of it matters to our guys at this

1102
00:46:36,786 --> 00:46:38,706
Speaker 5: point in time, because at the end of the day,

1103
00:46:38,706 --> 00:46:40,026
Speaker 5: they're going to kick them all off on Sunday and

1104
00:46:40,066 --> 00:46:41,986
Speaker 5: you're going to see who the better team is or

1105
00:46:42,026 --> 00:46:43,666
Speaker 5: who's going to come out on top of that game.

1106
00:46:48,626 --> 00:46:51,386
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, as we're in July right now,

1107
00:46:52,466 --> 00:46:54,386
Speaker 1: you know, I remember when Robert Griffin and I kind

1108
00:46:54,386 --> 00:46:57,346
Speaker 1: of had that big breakout year. The following off season,

1109
00:46:57,546 --> 00:47:00,426
Speaker 1: there are a lot of articles about defensive coordinators spending

1110
00:47:00,426 --> 00:47:03,186
Speaker 1: the off season kind of constructing ways to stop whatever

1111
00:47:03,226 --> 00:47:05,946
Speaker 1: the Shanahans had built for Robert Griffin, and you know,

1112
00:47:05,986 --> 00:47:07,346
Speaker 1: there was a lot of copycat We were in the

1113
00:47:07,426 --> 00:47:11,346
Speaker 1: league with that. As an offensive coordinator, what do you

1114
00:47:11,466 --> 00:47:14,866
Speaker 1: do during the off season to improve your skills to

1115
00:47:14,906 --> 00:47:17,826
Speaker 1: get your offense even better? And is there a certain

1116
00:47:17,826 --> 00:47:20,186
Speaker 1: point where you're like, all right, I need to have

1117
00:47:20,466 --> 00:47:22,386
Speaker 1: this as vacation, but hey, I got to get in

1118
00:47:22,426 --> 00:47:24,866
Speaker 1: the lab. Also, this offense announced my time to do it.

1119
00:47:25,146 --> 00:47:28,706
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're constantly doing it. From the moment the season ends,

1120
00:47:28,746 --> 00:47:30,586
Speaker 5: you kind of do your exit interviews, you sit down

1121
00:47:30,586 --> 00:47:32,266
Speaker 5: with your staff and we kind of mapped out.

1122
00:47:32,746 --> 00:47:32,906
Speaker 1: You know.

1123
00:47:32,946 --> 00:47:35,146
Speaker 5: It ended up being we started like, all right, let's

1124
00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:37,786
Speaker 5: find five things we really need to improve as an offense,

1125
00:47:37,826 --> 00:47:39,786
Speaker 5: you know, whatever that may be. As the off season

1126
00:47:39,826 --> 00:47:41,706
Speaker 5: went involved, I think right now we had like nineteen

1127
00:47:41,746 --> 00:47:44,346
Speaker 5: points of we need to do better at this. Okay,

1128
00:47:44,426 --> 00:47:47,186
Speaker 5: what does that mean? That could be That's what we

1129
00:47:47,266 --> 00:47:47,746
Speaker 5: ended up with.

1130
00:47:47,826 --> 00:47:50,106
Speaker 1: I love this, not twenty nineteen.

1131
00:47:50,426 --> 00:47:53,186
Speaker 5: And it goes on. It just evolves, you know, it's far.

1132
00:47:53,906 --> 00:47:56,346
Speaker 5: It just ended up that way of and it could

1133
00:47:56,346 --> 00:47:58,026
Speaker 5: be one hundred. You know, there's all these little sub

1134
00:47:58,066 --> 00:48:01,186
Speaker 5: points off of it. But from we need to improve

1135
00:48:01,186 --> 00:48:03,426
Speaker 5: our short yards, we need to eliminate our negative runs.

1136
00:48:03,506 --> 00:48:04,706
Speaker 5: You know. I think at the end of the day,

1137
00:48:04,706 --> 00:48:07,706
Speaker 5: we were one of the most explosed offenses, but we're

1138
00:48:07,826 --> 00:48:10,346
Speaker 5: one of the most We may have led the league

1139
00:48:10,386 --> 00:48:12,706
Speaker 5: and negative plays on first and second half, so we

1140
00:48:12,706 --> 00:48:15,386
Speaker 5: were extremely volatile. We could get ourselves out of it.

1141
00:48:15,426 --> 00:48:17,626
Speaker 5: We'd get in first and ten, go to second, and

1142
00:48:17,666 --> 00:48:20,226
Speaker 5: twelve to go to first and ten. So we'd get

1143
00:48:20,226 --> 00:48:22,546
Speaker 5: ourselves out of these holes because we have these players

1144
00:48:22,586 --> 00:48:24,666
Speaker 5: that could do special things. But like, we need to

1145
00:48:24,706 --> 00:48:26,346
Speaker 5: identify how we can get better at this, and we've

1146
00:48:26,426 --> 00:48:29,426
Speaker 5: kind of gone about that our own certain way. Part

1147
00:48:29,426 --> 00:48:31,746
Speaker 5: of us just evaluating who we are, what we did,

1148
00:48:32,226 --> 00:48:33,986
Speaker 5: what worked, what didn't work, What do we want to

1149
00:48:34,026 --> 00:48:36,106
Speaker 5: continue to invest in, what do we want to you know,

1150
00:48:36,146 --> 00:48:37,826
Speaker 5: maybe put aside we thought we'd be great at that,

1151
00:48:37,866 --> 00:48:40,626
Speaker 5: we're not. Let's put that aside and hut our losses

1152
00:48:40,666 --> 00:48:43,146
Speaker 5: and move forward. Where can we add who's doing something

1153
00:48:43,146 --> 00:48:46,626
Speaker 5: that looks similar to the way we play the game,

1154
00:48:46,786 --> 00:48:49,666
Speaker 5: or has similar players. How are they using their players

1155
00:48:49,666 --> 00:48:51,786
Speaker 5: that's maybe we don't have in our system at this

1156
00:48:51,826 --> 00:48:54,226
Speaker 5: point in time, or we have in our system we

1157
00:48:54,346 --> 00:48:55,426
Speaker 5: just hadn't thought to do it that way.

1158
00:48:55,466 --> 00:48:55,946
Speaker 1: We need them.

1159
00:48:56,026 --> 00:49:00,026
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know that's the fun part of it

1160
00:49:00,106 --> 00:49:03,586
Speaker 5: right now is more than ever in football, you have

1161
00:49:03,666 --> 00:49:07,946
Speaker 5: access to so much. You know, everybody's watching, everybody's watching everybody.

1162
00:49:07,986 --> 00:49:10,746
Speaker 5: You can watch all of college, all the college teams

1163
00:49:10,746 --> 00:49:14,306
Speaker 5: out there, what they're doing Twitter. You see some crazy

1164
00:49:14,346 --> 00:49:17,506
Speaker 5: high school D three play no ideas off the table,

1165
00:49:17,546 --> 00:49:18,866
Speaker 5: and you can you have access to all that. You

1166
00:49:18,906 --> 00:49:20,706
Speaker 5: can see, all that, you can read these articles, you

1167
00:49:20,706 --> 00:49:23,866
Speaker 5: can listen to podcast of guys' philosophies and how they

1168
00:49:23,906 --> 00:49:26,386
Speaker 5: got to where they got to. And so you know,

1169
00:49:27,386 --> 00:49:28,986
Speaker 5: I've been asked a couple of what's your hobby. What

1170
00:49:29,026 --> 00:49:30,906
Speaker 5: do you like to do? I like football, So I

1171
00:49:31,026 --> 00:49:33,986
Speaker 5: like to watch football, listen to football, if an old

1172
00:49:34,026 --> 00:49:35,906
Speaker 5: games on NFL. My wife got on me the other day,

1173
00:49:35,946 --> 00:49:36,866
Speaker 5: she said, it's.

1174
00:49:36,746 --> 00:49:38,346
Speaker 1: The Office Network.

1175
00:49:38,706 --> 00:49:42,586
Speaker 5: I watched the twenty sixteen Cowboys Week fifteen game that's

1176
00:49:42,626 --> 00:49:45,426
Speaker 5: on it, whatever it was, And you know.

1177
00:49:45,426 --> 00:49:50,226
Speaker 1: It's just stress you and me. Exactly last week. Last week,

1178
00:49:50,306 --> 00:49:52,466
Speaker 1: I was at the thing for Fox, and I go

1179
00:49:52,586 --> 00:49:54,626
Speaker 1: up to Greg Olsen and Kevin Burkhart and I'm like,

1180
00:49:54,706 --> 00:49:57,066
Speaker 1: I was up this week. I'm like, you guys called

1181
00:49:57,106 --> 00:50:00,106
Speaker 1: a game a couple of years ago Patriots Colts, and

1182
00:50:00,146 --> 00:50:01,666
Speaker 1: I think you were probably coaching in it. It was a

1183
00:50:01,666 --> 00:50:03,786
Speaker 1: Saturday game and I'm like, you guys did a really

1184
00:50:03,826 --> 00:50:05,346
Speaker 1: nice job. And Burkhart looks at me, He's like, why

1185
00:50:05,346 --> 00:50:07,746
Speaker 1: are you watching that? Are you watching that? It's June?

1186
00:50:07,786 --> 00:50:08,746
Speaker 1: Why are you watching that?

1187
00:50:08,946 --> 00:50:09,346
Speaker 5: Like, I don't know.

1188
00:50:09,666 --> 00:50:10,506
Speaker 1: And I loved it.

1189
00:50:10,506 --> 00:50:12,826
Speaker 5: It's worked, obviously, but that's it's fun. That's what I

1190
00:50:12,906 --> 00:50:13,386
Speaker 5: enjoyed doing.

1191
00:50:13,426 --> 00:50:14,346
Speaker 1: It's also a drug.

1192
00:50:14,546 --> 00:50:17,066
Speaker 5: I love it. I'm listening to podcast. I texted you

1193
00:50:17,066 --> 00:50:18,786
Speaker 5: the other day that I was listening. I was watching

1194
00:50:18,866 --> 00:50:21,346
Speaker 5: your YouTube with you and Kellen doing this thing. And

1195
00:50:21,746 --> 00:50:23,346
Speaker 5: you know, I'm trying to pick nuggets. Every time I

1196
00:50:23,346 --> 00:50:25,346
Speaker 5: hear kill and say something insightful, I go to my notes,

1197
00:50:25,386 --> 00:50:27,146
Speaker 5: throw it in there or something whatever it may be.

1198
00:50:28,346 --> 00:50:29,906
Speaker 5: So that's the fun part of it right now, is

1199
00:50:29,946 --> 00:50:33,226
Speaker 5: you constantly learn, you can constantly grow, constantly evolve, and

1200
00:50:33,666 --> 00:50:35,746
Speaker 5: if there's something I think can help our team, then

1201
00:50:35,946 --> 00:50:37,706
Speaker 5: I'll steal it. I'll take it. I'll turn it into

1202
00:50:37,746 --> 00:50:39,466
Speaker 5: ours and present a target.

1203
00:50:39,986 --> 00:50:42,666
Speaker 1: Let's do a little rapid fire here. Your father was

1204
00:50:42,666 --> 00:50:47,786
Speaker 1: obviously a legendary high school coach who was your greatest

1205
00:50:48,066 --> 00:50:50,666
Speaker 1: mentor in this profession. Would you say it's your pops.

1206
00:50:51,626 --> 00:50:53,506
Speaker 5: I would say it's my brother, just because now my

1207
00:50:53,906 --> 00:50:56,866
Speaker 5: dad was coaching, but he got out of coaching before

1208
00:50:57,066 --> 00:50:59,226
Speaker 5: I was even born, so he coached justice, but he

1209
00:50:59,266 --> 00:51:03,346
Speaker 5: wasn't coaching college at the time. So my brother and

1210
00:51:03,426 --> 00:51:05,786
Speaker 5: I have My brother's obviously five years older than me.

1211
00:51:05,826 --> 00:51:07,986
Speaker 5: He's always been ahead of it, so he was always

1212
00:51:08,066 --> 00:51:09,946
Speaker 5: kind of could call him and you know, how do

1213
00:51:10,066 --> 00:51:12,386
Speaker 5: I deal with this coming up, because maybe he went

1214
00:51:12,426 --> 00:51:14,786
Speaker 5: through it before, So I would say him, and then

1215
00:51:14,946 --> 00:51:17,826
Speaker 5: Frank Craich and Doug Peterson are certainly two other names

1216
00:51:17,866 --> 00:51:20,426
Speaker 5: that you know in Chip Kelly's influence on me, I

1217
00:51:20,426 --> 00:51:22,626
Speaker 5: would say that's that's never really left my mind and

1218
00:51:22,626 --> 00:51:25,546
Speaker 5: stuff like that. So those those guys, you know, my

1219
00:51:25,906 --> 00:51:27,866
Speaker 5: brother and Frank are probably too that I talked to

1220
00:51:27,906 --> 00:51:29,866
Speaker 5: the most. And then obviously Doug. I can walk around

1221
00:51:29,866 --> 00:51:31,906
Speaker 5: the corner and talked about who.

1222
00:51:31,786 --> 00:51:33,786
Speaker 1: Is the player that you've coached that you've looked at

1223
00:51:33,786 --> 00:51:35,826
Speaker 1: and said that that's just the biggest physical freak I've

1224
00:51:35,866 --> 00:51:38,226
Speaker 1: ever been around, and this is this is a special dude.

1225
00:51:38,586 --> 00:51:40,386
Speaker 5: That I've coached. I mean Michael Vick.

1226
00:51:40,546 --> 00:51:42,626
Speaker 1: Yeah, at that even at that age.

1227
00:51:42,386 --> 00:51:44,306
Speaker 5: I'm twenty four years old, when I get in the NFL,

1228
00:51:44,386 --> 00:51:47,306
Speaker 5: I've played with Michael Vick on Madden for ten years

1229
00:51:47,306 --> 00:51:49,426
Speaker 5: before that, and that was the one. You know, you're

1230
00:51:49,466 --> 00:51:50,866
Speaker 5: not allowed to play with him. It's different.

1231
00:51:50,906 --> 00:51:53,786
Speaker 1: No, yeah, him and Algae Crumpler and Brian Finneran you

1232
00:51:53,826 --> 00:51:55,746
Speaker 1: cannot play with that team. Yeah, I think that. I

1233
00:51:55,786 --> 00:51:57,866
Speaker 1: think it was for Madden, yes, yeah.

1234
00:51:57,826 --> 00:51:59,986
Speaker 5: So so Michael Vick was the one that's like, this

1235
00:52:00,066 --> 00:52:02,706
Speaker 5: guy is a moss. Just the way he throws the football,

1236
00:52:02,746 --> 00:52:05,946
Speaker 5: the way he moves effort like that was really you know,

1237
00:52:06,706 --> 00:52:08,706
Speaker 5: of being on the field with watching them day and

1238
00:52:08,786 --> 00:52:12,066
Speaker 5: day out. Just a physical freak. Jason Peters, you know,

1239
00:52:12,146 --> 00:52:14,506
Speaker 5: left tackle for the Eagles, one of those guys is

1240
00:52:14,586 --> 00:52:17,986
Speaker 5: just his ability to move another grown man was incredible.

1241
00:52:18,706 --> 00:52:21,426
Speaker 5: And then the thing I tell people too is as

1242
00:52:21,426 --> 00:52:24,746
Speaker 5: a coach, the opponent when we went to in twenty seventeen,

1243
00:52:24,786 --> 00:52:27,426
Speaker 5: we went to Carolina on a Thursday night and watching

1244
00:52:27,506 --> 00:52:30,226
Speaker 5: Julius Peppers and Cam Newton run out of the tunnel,

1245
00:52:30,906 --> 00:52:33,386
Speaker 5: it was just like, wait, what are those two like.

1246
00:52:33,346 --> 00:52:35,466
Speaker 1: They belong on the same as the others.

1247
00:52:35,546 --> 00:52:38,986
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they were just athletics specimens. So it was

1248
00:52:39,026 --> 00:52:41,346
Speaker 5: cool to see. It's just cool to you know, get

1249
00:52:41,346 --> 00:52:43,866
Speaker 5: to be on field level with those guys and see

1250
00:52:43,866 --> 00:52:44,986
Speaker 5: those guys every single week.

1251
00:52:45,066 --> 00:52:48,426
Speaker 1: Yeah, your favorite play call that you've made that you

1252
00:52:48,466 --> 00:52:50,066
Speaker 1: take pride in and you're like, all right, that was

1253
00:52:50,146 --> 00:52:52,266
Speaker 1: kind of unique and you haven't seen that everywhere. If

1254
00:52:52,306 --> 00:52:54,586
Speaker 1: you can go into the annals of the Press Taylor

1255
00:52:54,666 --> 00:52:55,706
Speaker 1: play call history.

1256
00:52:56,626 --> 00:53:00,306
Speaker 5: Well, another big one was the Chargers playoff game. You know,

1257
00:53:00,346 --> 00:53:02,906
Speaker 5: we we were kind of making this comeback. We score,

1258
00:53:03,226 --> 00:53:05,106
Speaker 5: we're about to kick their point, they get a penalty,

1259
00:53:05,226 --> 00:53:07,306
Speaker 5: balls on the one. Doug says, let's go for two.

1260
00:53:08,026 --> 00:53:10,706
Speaker 5: We've got a little screen called out to Evan Ingram.

1261
00:53:10,986 --> 00:53:13,866
Speaker 5: It's got a at the time because it's short yardage,

1262
00:53:13,906 --> 00:53:15,306
Speaker 5: goal line played, it's got to kill on it for

1263
00:53:15,306 --> 00:53:18,346
Speaker 5: Trevor to sneak it. Well, you know it's on the one.

1264
00:53:18,546 --> 00:53:20,586
Speaker 5: It's two point play, I'm saying, and I head say, hey,

1265
00:53:20,746 --> 00:53:23,546
Speaker 5: no kill, just throw the screen, let's roll, and Trevor

1266
00:53:23,626 --> 00:53:25,706
Speaker 5: kind of just you know, Trump's everything dives in the

1267
00:53:25,786 --> 00:53:28,426
Speaker 5: end zone. Nobody's blocking the sneak for him. You know,

1268
00:53:28,466 --> 00:53:30,506
Speaker 5: he does it all on his own. The line's not cutting,

1269
00:53:30,546 --> 00:53:32,826
Speaker 5: nothing like that. So that was one of those ones.

1270
00:53:32,866 --> 00:53:35,266
Speaker 5: It's like that worked out well everything, you know, moment

1271
00:53:35,866 --> 00:53:37,546
Speaker 5: I told him not to do it, he does it.

1272
00:53:37,586 --> 00:53:38,906
Speaker 2: You know, that's kind of where you'll take it.

1273
00:53:39,146 --> 00:53:41,786
Speaker 5: A little player with momentum kind of do his thing

1274
00:53:41,866 --> 00:53:43,466
Speaker 5: right now. You don't want to take a stinger away,

1275
00:53:43,506 --> 00:53:45,346
Speaker 5: and he was feeling it. He made a play. So

1276
00:53:45,386 --> 00:53:46,946
Speaker 5: that was the one that's like, I don't know if

1277
00:53:46,946 --> 00:53:49,306
Speaker 5: that's a great play call. It obviously was not, but

1278
00:53:49,866 --> 00:53:51,226
Speaker 5: he made it work, and so that was a cool

1279
00:53:51,226 --> 00:53:52,186
Speaker 5: one to be a part of him. Like, all right,

1280
00:53:52,226 --> 00:53:52,986
Speaker 5: things are hitting here.

1281
00:53:53,026 --> 00:53:55,986
Speaker 1: So were you in so far? For when the Rams

1282
00:53:56,026 --> 00:53:58,026
Speaker 1: played the Bengals in the Super Bowl two years ago,

1283
00:53:58,186 --> 00:54:01,026
Speaker 1: I was where were you seated? Let me hear everything.

1284
00:54:01,346 --> 00:54:03,786
Speaker 5: I had just gotten the job here. So I signed

1285
00:54:03,786 --> 00:54:06,506
Speaker 5: my contract on like Thursday, and I tell Doug like,

1286
00:54:07,306 --> 00:54:09,106
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm enough to miss Monday, Like I got

1287
00:54:09,106 --> 00:54:11,546
Speaker 5: to go to the Super Bowl, so, you know, second

1288
00:54:11,626 --> 00:54:13,186
Speaker 5: day of work, I'm asking for the day off, all

1289
00:54:13,266 --> 00:54:16,626
Speaker 5: ready to go out there and celebrate or watch my

1290
00:54:16,666 --> 00:54:18,026
Speaker 5: brother kind of you know, in the biggest game of

1291
00:54:18,066 --> 00:54:20,706
Speaker 5: his career. So we're out there. You know, they've got

1292
00:54:20,866 --> 00:54:23,946
Speaker 5: a suite for the family. We're in Beyonce, jay z

1293
00:54:24,586 --> 00:54:27,146
Speaker 5: or Beyonce maybe just they are three suites down. My

1294
00:54:27,226 --> 00:54:30,426
Speaker 5: sister's waving at her all this stuff. So that was

1295
00:54:30,426 --> 00:54:32,666
Speaker 5: a really cool experience just getting to be there for that,

1296
00:54:33,106 --> 00:54:35,346
Speaker 5: watching them play, you know, come down to the very end.

1297
00:54:35,866 --> 00:54:37,746
Speaker 5: That was a cool experience for our family to be

1298
00:54:37,826 --> 00:54:39,866
Speaker 5: able to sit there and see that and watch that.

1299
00:54:40,106 --> 00:54:44,146
Speaker 1: Yeah, your Eagles Super Bowl Parade memory is what I mean.

1300
00:54:44,186 --> 00:54:47,026
Speaker 5: I tell people that was probably the most fun I've

1301
00:54:47,026 --> 00:54:48,706
Speaker 5: ever had in coaching. You know, people say it was.

1302
00:54:48,626 --> 00:54:50,346
Speaker 1: The super game, the parade.

1303
00:54:50,426 --> 00:54:53,826
Speaker 5: The game is so stressful. To see the confetti fall,

1304
00:54:53,866 --> 00:54:56,226
Speaker 5: it's it's almost just relief at that point it's over.

1305
00:54:56,346 --> 00:54:58,506
Speaker 5: We did it. The parade as you wake up in

1306
00:54:58,546 --> 00:55:00,826
Speaker 5: the morning and you know we're about to go out

1307
00:55:00,866 --> 00:55:04,906
Speaker 5: to a million screaming fans celebrating us, yelling at us

1308
00:55:04,946 --> 00:55:07,706
Speaker 5: all the time. So the parade was awesome. I remember

1309
00:55:07,786 --> 00:55:10,706
Speaker 5: Joe Douglas were on different floats, but seeing him at

1310
00:55:10,706 --> 00:55:13,306
Speaker 5: the end, when we get to the Rocky steps and

1311
00:55:13,346 --> 00:55:14,906
Speaker 5: all that, seeing him he's got a big gash on

1312
00:55:14,946 --> 00:55:17,066
Speaker 5: his face. I guess he didn't know. A fan throws

1313
00:55:17,106 --> 00:55:18,946
Speaker 5: him a big beer can, hits him in the face,

1314
00:55:18,986 --> 00:55:21,586
Speaker 5: cuts his face. You know, I think he was excited

1315
00:55:21,626 --> 00:55:24,186
Speaker 5: about it. He didn't care at the time. Stuff like that.

1316
00:55:24,386 --> 00:55:27,786
Speaker 5: Just those memories of seeing all that Jason Kelsey's speech

1317
00:55:27,826 --> 00:55:30,866
Speaker 5: and the Momber's outfit, you know, Fletcher Cox trying to

1318
00:55:30,866 --> 00:55:32,546
Speaker 5: talk and people getting them off the stage, just things

1319
00:55:32,546 --> 00:55:35,506
Speaker 5: like that that you just remember, and that was a

1320
00:55:35,546 --> 00:55:36,826
Speaker 5: really special day for us.

1321
00:55:37,066 --> 00:55:39,346
Speaker 1: It's a special team. I feel like that was like

1322
00:55:39,386 --> 00:55:42,946
Speaker 1: a really cool team that was of that model where

1323
00:55:42,946 --> 00:55:45,906
Speaker 1: there was these homegrown guys, but they also went and

1324
00:55:45,946 --> 00:55:49,306
Speaker 1: acquired guys like Alshon Jeffery, and they acquired you know,

1325
00:55:49,426 --> 00:55:52,146
Speaker 1: jay A Jayi at mid season and they put it

1326
00:55:52,186 --> 00:55:55,386
Speaker 1: all together and then the Eagles almost overnight they're in

1327
00:55:55,466 --> 00:55:57,786
Speaker 1: Super Bowl again with a whole new crew, but they

1328
00:55:57,786 --> 00:56:00,186
Speaker 1: still have some of those holdovers from that guy, that

1329
00:56:00,266 --> 00:56:02,666
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen team. When you look back on it, did

1330
00:56:02,746 --> 00:56:04,306
Speaker 1: you know at the time it was as special as

1331
00:56:04,306 --> 00:56:04,626
Speaker 1: it was?

1332
00:56:05,226 --> 00:56:08,226
Speaker 5: You know, I think midway through the year you started

1333
00:56:08,226 --> 00:56:10,226
Speaker 5: to feel there's something special going on. Offense was kind

1334
00:56:10,266 --> 00:56:12,226
Speaker 5: of hitting our stride. The end of the defense. We

1335
00:56:12,266 --> 00:56:14,506
Speaker 5: had a top five defense that year. We had talent

1336
00:56:14,506 --> 00:56:16,586
Speaker 5: across the board, We had the right veterans on the

1337
00:56:16,626 --> 00:56:20,346
Speaker 5: right spot. There was great leadership on that team, so

1338
00:56:20,426 --> 00:56:22,746
Speaker 5: you kind of saw I think early on we didn't know,

1339
00:56:22,786 --> 00:56:25,506
Speaker 5: you know, we we we're one on one coming back

1340
00:56:25,546 --> 00:56:28,826
Speaker 5: from a tough loss at Kansas City playing the Giants.

1341
00:56:29,306 --> 00:56:31,946
Speaker 5: We end up kicking a sixty one yard walk off

1342
00:56:31,946 --> 00:56:34,146
Speaker 5: field goal to beat the Giants and struggle our way

1343
00:56:34,146 --> 00:56:35,106
Speaker 5: to two and one at the time.

1344
00:56:35,226 --> 00:56:36,866
Speaker 1: Jake Elliott Jake Elliott.

1345
00:56:36,946 --> 00:56:37,146
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1346
00:56:37,346 --> 00:56:40,106
Speaker 5: So so within from there is when we kind of

1347
00:56:40,106 --> 00:56:42,226
Speaker 5: get hot and we kind of start beating up on teams,

1348
00:56:42,266 --> 00:56:44,106
Speaker 5: and that's when you start getting into you know, you

1349
00:56:44,146 --> 00:56:46,426
Speaker 5: look back at it, and we were beating teams pretty good,

1350
00:56:46,466 --> 00:56:49,866
Speaker 5: pretty handily, which doesn't happen much in the NFL. So

1351
00:56:49,906 --> 00:56:51,786
Speaker 5: you started thinking, yeah, you know, we might be pretty

1352
00:56:51,826 --> 00:56:54,306
Speaker 5: good here, and we've got our showdown with the Rams.

1353
00:56:54,306 --> 00:56:57,346
Speaker 5: The Rams are you know, coming out like Gangbusters early on,

1354
00:56:57,466 --> 00:57:00,226
Speaker 5: and I think that was Sean's first year and my

1355
00:57:00,306 --> 00:57:02,786
Speaker 5: brother's on staff there, and we go out there and

1356
00:57:02,786 --> 00:57:05,226
Speaker 5: play those guys in just a battle, lose Carson in

1357
00:57:05,266 --> 00:57:07,546
Speaker 5: the game, Nick gets us through, get the win, clinch

1358
00:57:07,586 --> 00:57:10,506
Speaker 5: the division. But then you're like, all right, things are

1359
00:57:10,506 --> 00:57:13,226
Speaker 5: going well, well we just lost the MVP candle, Now

1360
00:57:13,306 --> 00:57:15,026
Speaker 5: where is it going to go? So it was, you know,

1361
00:57:15,026 --> 00:57:16,746
Speaker 5: there was kind of the ebbs and flows throughout the seat.

1362
00:57:16,746 --> 00:57:18,426
Speaker 5: I think We're the first ever one seed to be

1363
00:57:18,466 --> 00:57:20,266
Speaker 5: an underdog in the second round.

1364
00:57:20,066 --> 00:57:21,786
Speaker 2: Of playoffs against Falcons.

1365
00:57:23,186 --> 00:57:25,346
Speaker 5: So I don't know. There were times where he felt

1366
00:57:25,346 --> 00:57:27,266
Speaker 5: like we might be really good. Then you lose your quarterback,

1367
00:57:27,266 --> 00:57:29,666
Speaker 5: then you lose Jason Peters, then you lose Darren. I

1368
00:57:29,706 --> 00:57:31,826
Speaker 5: mean it was just kind of there was enough ebbs

1369
00:57:31,866 --> 00:57:33,506
Speaker 5: and flows that kind of kept us on our toes

1370
00:57:33,546 --> 00:57:35,946
Speaker 5: and which probably ultimately got us over the hump. There

1371
00:57:36,106 --> 00:57:38,106
Speaker 5: was never letting your foot off the gas.

1372
00:57:38,426 --> 00:57:40,866
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, I mean, such an interesting figure right now.

1373
00:57:40,866 --> 00:57:42,546
Speaker 1: I don't think he's even on a team at the moment.

1374
00:57:42,706 --> 00:57:44,626
Speaker 1: I've been been checking my phone of the day. But

1375
00:57:44,666 --> 00:57:47,746
Speaker 1: you coached him in multiple places. The good of Carson Wentz.

1376
00:57:47,746 --> 00:57:48,866
Speaker 1: If you were to make the case to a coach

1377
00:57:48,866 --> 00:57:50,706
Speaker 1: who's like, should I bring this guy on? What is

1378
00:57:50,746 --> 00:57:52,666
Speaker 1: the good of Carson Wentz? As far as if you're

1379
00:57:52,666 --> 00:57:54,666
Speaker 1: doing a pros and cons and will make the case

1380
00:57:54,666 --> 00:57:57,666
Speaker 1: for why he's still a viable player in this league.

1381
00:57:57,626 --> 00:58:00,146
Speaker 5: Well, I mean he's a great athlete, honestly. Now, he

1382
00:58:00,186 --> 00:58:02,146
Speaker 5: went through a lot of entry and tearing his acl,

1383
00:58:02,346 --> 00:58:05,026
Speaker 5: had a broken bones, back whatever you know. The next

1384
00:58:05,106 --> 00:58:08,186
Speaker 5: season has had his share of injuries that I think

1385
00:58:08,386 --> 00:58:12,346
Speaker 5: a little in a little bit hampered his athleticism. But

1386
00:58:13,066 --> 00:58:16,106
Speaker 5: you know he's a great athlete. He's incredibly cerebral. He

1387
00:58:16,346 --> 00:58:18,266
Speaker 5: spends a lot of time, is able to process a

1388
00:58:18,266 --> 00:58:20,706
Speaker 5: lot of information, has a very aggressive mindset, and the

1389
00:58:20,706 --> 00:58:22,226
Speaker 5: way he plays wants to push the ball down the

1390
00:58:22,226 --> 00:58:24,786
Speaker 5: field and then he'll lay it on the line for

1391
00:58:24,866 --> 00:58:27,306
Speaker 5: his team. I think you know he brings a physical

1392
00:58:27,386 --> 00:58:29,826
Speaker 5: aspect now I think at times that hinders him, you know,

1393
00:58:30,626 --> 00:58:33,146
Speaker 5: willing to let go of play. But you know, as

1394
00:58:33,186 --> 00:58:35,186
Speaker 5: far as a teammate and a guy you're coaching, and

1395
00:58:35,226 --> 00:58:36,586
Speaker 5: a guy that will put it out their first team

1396
00:58:36,586 --> 00:58:38,906
Speaker 5: all the time, you know that's what you're asking for.

1397
00:58:39,146 --> 00:58:41,666
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, our last in the rapid fire. And

1398
00:58:41,706 --> 00:58:44,826
Speaker 1: it's more of a philosophical question and a message to

1399
00:58:44,906 --> 00:58:46,866
Speaker 1: young coaches out there. You said it. You were living

1400
00:58:46,906 --> 00:58:49,866
Speaker 1: in a basement of your mom's sorority sister and you

1401
00:58:49,866 --> 00:58:52,626
Speaker 1: are driving yourself to Tulsa and saying, hey, I could

1402
00:58:52,666 --> 00:58:55,546
Speaker 1: do anything. Would be your message to a young man

1403
00:58:55,666 --> 00:58:59,066
Speaker 1: or woman leaving college and you know, no job opportunity

1404
00:58:59,066 --> 00:59:01,226
Speaker 1: in the NFL sitting there waiting for them, but they

1405
00:59:01,226 --> 00:59:03,226
Speaker 1: say I want to coach football, What would be your

1406
00:59:03,226 --> 00:59:04,146
Speaker 1: message to that person.

1407
00:59:04,546 --> 00:59:05,906
Speaker 5: Find a way to get your foot in the door.

1408
00:59:06,426 --> 00:59:08,906
Speaker 5: At your foot in the door, and then make yourself

1409
00:59:08,946 --> 00:59:12,466
Speaker 5: as valuable as possible to where when people leave your staff,

1410
00:59:13,466 --> 00:59:15,186
Speaker 5: you know they have to take you because of the

1411
00:59:15,186 --> 00:59:17,026
Speaker 5: things you provided, the things you were able to do,

1412
00:59:17,506 --> 00:59:19,786
Speaker 5: and the staff you're on has to keep you because

1413
00:59:19,786 --> 00:59:21,586
Speaker 5: they don't want to lose the things you're able to do.

1414
00:59:22,986 --> 00:59:24,986
Speaker 5: Whatever it may be. You know, I took a lot

1415
00:59:25,026 --> 00:59:27,266
Speaker 5: of pride and take an initiative, and I did the

1416
00:59:27,346 --> 00:59:29,826
Speaker 5: job requirement that I was asked to do. And then

1417
00:59:29,866 --> 00:59:31,546
Speaker 5: I wanted to do. Now, what can I do? How

1418
00:59:31,586 --> 00:59:34,506
Speaker 5: can I make the offensive coordinator's life easier, the quarterback

1419
00:59:34,546 --> 00:59:36,826
Speaker 5: coach's life easier, the quarterbacks life easier. What can I

1420
00:59:36,866 --> 00:59:40,666
Speaker 5: do to provide value? And you know, you can't take

1421
00:59:40,666 --> 00:59:42,586
Speaker 5: it hard when you throw an idea out there, or

1422
00:59:42,626 --> 00:59:45,906
Speaker 5: you do something and you don't see the fruits of

1423
00:59:45,906 --> 00:59:47,946
Speaker 5: it at the time. You know, yeah, that's a good idea,

1424
00:59:47,946 --> 00:59:49,866
Speaker 5: but we're not going to do it. You know, Okay, great,

1425
00:59:50,026 --> 00:59:52,826
Speaker 5: you know I researching idea, I brought an idea. It

1426
00:59:52,866 --> 00:59:56,466
Speaker 5: doesn't fit us right now. That doesn't discourage me from

1427
00:59:56,466 --> 00:59:59,386
Speaker 5: continuing to try to find ideas, try to find value,

1428
00:59:59,426 --> 01:00:01,706
Speaker 5: try to push ways to progress the team.

1429
01:00:01,666 --> 01:00:04,826
Speaker 1: Or push that idea in the future. Right to me,

1430
01:00:04,906 --> 01:00:06,346
Speaker 1: that's important. We do this. We do a TV S

1431
01:00:06,586 --> 01:00:08,706
Speaker 1: every day and it's like a young producer comes up.

1432
01:00:08,706 --> 01:00:09,986
Speaker 1: It's like I got this idea and we kind of

1433
01:00:10,026 --> 01:00:11,426
Speaker 1: like poop poo it and I'm like, no, no, no,

1434
01:00:11,426 --> 01:00:12,546
Speaker 1: that stick with it.

1435
01:00:12,586 --> 01:00:12,986
Speaker 3: I like that.

1436
01:00:13,106 --> 01:00:14,906
Speaker 1: I like that you're thinking of things. That's good.

1437
01:00:15,186 --> 01:00:16,986
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just trying to grow. I mean that's the

1438
01:00:17,026 --> 01:00:20,826
Speaker 5: coolest thing about being in the NFL is it's football

1439
01:00:20,986 --> 01:00:22,706
Speaker 5: twenty four to seven. I mean we are We are

1440
01:00:22,746 --> 01:00:28,626
Speaker 5: constantly watching film, tinkering scheme, stealing ideas, molding things that

1441
01:00:28,666 --> 01:00:30,346
Speaker 5: fit our players, listening to our players. You know, it's

1442
01:00:30,346 --> 01:00:33,426
Speaker 5: a partnership with players, and I think not putting yourself

1443
01:00:33,426 --> 01:00:35,986
Speaker 5: on this pedestal to where nobody else can give you

1444
01:00:36,026 --> 01:00:37,946
Speaker 5: an idea. I mean I will take an idea from

1445
01:00:37,946 --> 01:00:40,186
Speaker 5: anybody at any time that can get us four yards.

1446
01:00:40,386 --> 01:00:42,626
Speaker 5: You know, we're willing to do it four yards. Yeah,

1447
01:00:42,666 --> 01:00:44,386
Speaker 5: that's I mean, we're staying ahead of the change. We

1448
01:00:44,426 --> 01:00:48,946
Speaker 5: get four so so you know that's you kind of

1449
01:00:48,986 --> 01:00:50,306
Speaker 5: got to leave your ego at the door and you're

1450
01:00:50,306 --> 01:00:51,786
Speaker 5: just trying to get better every single day. We tell

1451
01:00:51,786 --> 01:00:54,266
Speaker 5: our players that too, but that's the ultimate goal. It's

1452
01:00:54,306 --> 01:00:55,466
Speaker 5: just I want to continue to grow.

1453
01:00:55,746 --> 01:00:57,586
Speaker 1: Who's a play call then maybe doesn't get the same

1454
01:00:57,666 --> 01:00:59,826
Speaker 1: credit he might deserve. I mean we always hear about

1455
01:00:59,826 --> 01:01:02,586
Speaker 1: Shanahan McVay and even you know, your brother gets a

1456
01:01:02,626 --> 01:01:03,866
Speaker 1: lot of love for some of the stuff you get.

1457
01:01:03,866 --> 01:01:05,306
Speaker 1: They do it to. Like, who's someone that you say,

1458
01:01:05,306 --> 01:01:06,626
Speaker 1: you know, you should check out with this guy doing

1459
01:01:06,626 --> 01:01:08,306
Speaker 1: because what he does is pretty impressive too.

1460
01:01:08,826 --> 01:01:11,746
Speaker 5: You know, I always kind of liked and this isn't

1461
01:01:11,746 --> 01:01:13,506
Speaker 5: just because he's on your podcast, but I always liked

1462
01:01:13,586 --> 01:01:16,066
Speaker 5: kind of what Nate Hackett was doing in Buffalo and

1463
01:01:16,146 --> 01:01:18,346
Speaker 5: Jacksonville when he was doing it originally there and it

1464
01:01:18,386 --> 01:01:20,026
Speaker 5: looked a little different than it does now. You know,

1465
01:01:20,066 --> 01:01:22,786
Speaker 5: obviously you continue to grow in evolve. I like watching

1466
01:01:22,786 --> 01:01:25,226
Speaker 5: Shane Walderton in Seattle. You know those guys are he

1467
01:01:25,546 --> 01:01:27,066
Speaker 5: did a great job interesting.

1468
01:01:27,146 --> 01:01:30,346
Speaker 1: You know, Shane's on that whole tree also never gets mentioned.

1469
01:01:30,466 --> 01:01:32,666
Speaker 1: He's been with those guys Lafloor and all those guys.

1470
01:01:32,746 --> 01:01:35,666
Speaker 5: Yeah, did a great job, you know, helping put Geno

1471
01:01:35,706 --> 01:01:38,386
Speaker 5: Smith in great positions while keeping their identity of running

1472
01:01:38,386 --> 01:01:41,906
Speaker 5: the football and the things they want to do. So honestly,

1473
01:01:42,706 --> 01:01:44,466
Speaker 5: you know, I'll watch anybody at any time.

1474
01:01:44,586 --> 01:01:45,786
Speaker 1: I know the goes on.

1475
01:01:46,226 --> 01:01:47,906
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a lot of fun to just see

1476
01:01:47,906 --> 01:01:50,306
Speaker 5: what's going on the leagues in good hands of just

1477
01:01:50,946 --> 01:01:53,026
Speaker 5: I think football is in good hands, just these forward

1478
01:01:53,026 --> 01:01:55,786
Speaker 5: thinking minds, everybody kind of pushing the envelope and compete

1479
01:01:55,826 --> 01:01:57,666
Speaker 5: and do to make football better.

1480
01:01:58,466 --> 01:02:01,106
Speaker 1: Our last thing, and you know it's for the Jaguars

1481
01:02:01,106 --> 01:02:05,146
Speaker 1: fan specifically, as we get excited for this season, your

1482
01:02:05,146 --> 01:02:09,226
Speaker 1: message to down there in Duval County is what I think.

1483
01:02:09,226 --> 01:02:11,226
Speaker 5: There's a lot to be excited about. You know. Obviously

1484
01:02:11,306 --> 01:02:13,506
Speaker 5: we we have we have the right guy pulling the trigger,

1485
01:02:13,626 --> 01:02:16,746
Speaker 5: and I think that's the biggest thing. You know, we'll

1486
01:02:16,786 --> 01:02:18,906
Speaker 5: go along way, I think with Trevor Lawrence as our leader,

1487
01:02:19,346 --> 01:02:22,026
Speaker 5: uh and and coach Peterson obviously the guy at the

1488
01:02:22,026 --> 01:02:23,906
Speaker 5: front of it all. With those two, I think my

1489
01:02:24,066 --> 01:02:26,546
Speaker 5: message to the Gyro fans were in good hands. You know,

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Speaker 5: just just stick with us, keep showing up. The last

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Speaker 5: two they were essentially playoff games. Titans game in the

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Speaker 5: Charge game. Awesome environment, right, our crowd was as good

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Speaker 5: as any crowd I've ever been in, and so when

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Speaker 5: Duval comes out, it's a it's a pretty special thing

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Speaker 5: in our players feed off it and stick with us.

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Speaker 5: We got the right people leading the charge.

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Speaker 1: All right, from the basement of the sorority sister's house

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Speaker 1: to the grunt work under Chip and you know, helping

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01:02:52,026 --> 01:02:54,226
Speaker 1: with the Philly Special to now being the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: one of the hottest teams. And the sex I say sexy.

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01:02:57,146 --> 01:02:58,826
Speaker 1: The word sexy makes sense, but you know the one

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01:02:58,866 --> 01:03:02,786
Speaker 1: that they very hot pick for this summer. Press Taylor,

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you to come on the podcast.

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01:03:04,586 --> 01:03:05,986
Speaker 1: Hope you had a good time, and we appreciate you

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01:03:06,026 --> 01:03:08,826
Speaker 1: taking the time, especially during your one vacation week when

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Speaker 1: the training camp gets gone.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. Man, always good.

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Speaker 1: Talking to awesome stuff. Press Taylor, Jaguars, Oh see on

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01:03:15,306 --> 01:03:17,946
Speaker 1: the season. That was great. I'm bringing in our producer,

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Speaker 1: Aaron wan Kaufman. Aaron, you've been on riding shotguing me

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Speaker 1: for most of these podcasts. There's something that I like.

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Speaker 1: I smile when I hear I was living in the

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Speaker 1: basement of my mom's sorority sister because she lived near

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Speaker 1: Tulsa that I'm like, I love that stuff. I love

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01:03:35,266 --> 01:03:38,146
Speaker 1: that and of course he you know, he finds his

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Speaker 1: own way. But pretty cool story at a Press Taylor too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and especially with last week's too, we have

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Speaker 3: working the enterprise, rent a car and yeah, Brad Holmes

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01:03:48,346 --> 01:03:51,986
Speaker 3: living in the one room apartment you know, at the

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Speaker 3: end of the train line. And now you know, Press

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01:03:56,386 --> 01:04:00,026
Speaker 3: like going driving all night to get somewhere. He doesn't

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01:04:00,066 --> 01:04:02,066
Speaker 3: have an appointment or anything. He's just like, yeah, I'm here.

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01:04:02,106 --> 01:04:03,666
Speaker 3: He told me to come meet him, and here I

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Speaker 3: am for to talk.

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Speaker 1: You know. I started with the special with Press because

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Speaker 1: I love that part of the Philadelphia Eagle season and

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Speaker 1: I was obviously coasting Good Morning Football at the time,

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Speaker 1: and there was all sorts of coverage about that play,

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01:04:15,866 --> 01:04:17,986
Speaker 1: and like the hours afterwards, I remember talking to someone

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles and they're like, I'm like, where the

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01:04:20,066 --> 01:04:21,826
Speaker 1: hell did that play come from? And They're like, twenty

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01:04:21,826 --> 01:04:23,826
Speaker 1: four year old Press Taylor find him. And I'm like

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Speaker 1: googling who that is and he's in the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the org chart. But like, isn't that a sweet message

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Speaker 1: that like any ideas can come from anywhere And in

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01:04:30,666 --> 01:04:33,746
Speaker 1: that case, it was the assistant quarterbacks coach who essentially

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01:04:33,826 --> 01:04:37,066
Speaker 1: was basically you know, low level guy at the time,

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Speaker 1: but now he's the offensive coordinator of the Jaguars. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I also love him talking about every time you assembled

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Speaker 3: this like new collection of coaches, whether it be offensive

1541
01:04:46,226 --> 01:04:49,386
Speaker 3: or defensive, they're all bringing in influences from the Chip

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01:04:49,466 --> 01:04:52,066
Speaker 3: Kelly system, the Andy Reid system, the McVeigh system, and

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Speaker 3: you get like parts of each of them, which is

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Speaker 3: a really fun thing to think of. And none of

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01:04:57,506 --> 01:05:01,386
Speaker 3: these coaching staffs are like static and yeah, just the

1546
01:05:01,426 --> 01:05:03,186
Speaker 3: same thing, no matter who's at the head of it.

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Speaker 3: So that I loved hearing about that too, and all

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Speaker 3: of the different people he's worked with.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool. We're wrapping up two weeks in a

1550
01:05:10,986 --> 01:05:16,026
Speaker 1: row of doing Lions GM last week, Jaguars OC this week.

1551
01:05:16,626 --> 01:05:19,146
Speaker 1: Two teams that have not been on the radar relatively.

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01:05:19,146 --> 01:05:21,666
Speaker 1: We were a little blip for the Jaguars few years ago.

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01:05:21,706 --> 01:05:24,586
Speaker 1: But I might pick that as my Super Bowl this year,

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01:05:24,786 --> 01:05:28,066
Speaker 1: Like this is why the NFL is the best. Were

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Speaker 1: in July and I'm talking Jaguars and Lions as a

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01:05:32,106 --> 01:05:34,986
Speaker 1: Super Bowl pick as a possibility. But you hear from

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01:05:35,026 --> 01:05:36,946
Speaker 1: some of the decision makers. You hear from some of

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01:05:36,946 --> 01:05:39,226
Speaker 1: the coaches, and it's hard not to kind of take

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01:05:39,226 --> 01:05:40,706
Speaker 1: a bite out of that apple and be like, I

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01:05:40,786 --> 01:05:43,706
Speaker 1: like where these teams are had at. Young Ascending had

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01:05:43,746 --> 01:05:45,546
Speaker 1: a taste of success at the end of last year

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Speaker 1: the Lions and the regular season the Jaguars obviously won

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Speaker 1: a playoff game. It's almost here, dude, it is almost here.

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Speaker 3: It would be it would be wild for the Kansas

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01:05:56,386 --> 01:06:00,026
Speaker 3: City Kansas City's next rival to be the other brother,

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01:06:00,466 --> 01:06:01,586
Speaker 3: the other Taylor brother.

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Speaker 1: They went from Zach Taylor to all right, this is

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Speaker 1: the season with Peter Schreger. We love you guys listening.

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01:06:08,786 --> 01:06:12,506
Speaker 1: We're gearing up. Training camp starts soon on behalf of

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Speaker 1: Aaron Wan Kauffman are awesome producer, and Jason English and

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01:06:16,426 --> 01:06:20,586
Speaker 1: Grace Fuse and Kurt the great editor, and of course

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01:06:20,986 --> 01:06:23,026
Speaker 1: we've got our folks back in LA and we can

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Speaker 1: go down the list, Jason Kleinman doing an awesome job,

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Speaker 1: and Meredith Batten and her team at Schneider his squad,

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01:06:29,066 --> 01:06:31,186
Speaker 1: David Jurenka, who runs the whole show as far as

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Speaker 1: digital goes, and then of course we talk about you guys.

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Speaker 1: The listeners keeping this thing going. I feel like I

1578
01:06:37,746 --> 01:06:40,106
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's a cult it's a cult favorite,

1579
01:06:40,106 --> 01:06:42,106
Speaker 1: because that means it's a small favorite, and it means

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01:06:42,106 --> 01:06:43,826
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a huge audience. But the truth matter

1581
01:06:43,946 --> 01:06:46,666
Speaker 1: is the amount of texts I get based on these interviews,

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01:06:46,666 --> 01:06:49,426
Speaker 1: whether it be the Kellen Moore, than Daniel Hackett or

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01:06:49,466 --> 01:06:51,466
Speaker 1: even the Hankers area in a few weeks ago, got

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Speaker 1: a lot of love, so we'll keep them coming. I

1585
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Speaker 1: love doing it, and we love that you're listening. Tell

1586
01:06:56,306 --> 01:06:59,786
Speaker 1: your friends, subscribe, and let's keep on rocking as the

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01:06:59,826 --> 01:07:20,146
Speaker 1: season approaches. The Season with Peter Schrager is a production

1588
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