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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: He's got his uh cured coffees stacked up over there.

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Speaker 1: There's a story behind that. You had none yesterday, You've

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Speaker 1: got twenty seven of them today. Thought of me, Callen,

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Speaker 1: thought of me. I brought some from home. It's been

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Speaker 1: a little shortage around here, little shortage. I'm glad to

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Speaker 1: these early starts coffee. So I'm down in like three

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Speaker 1: diet cokes before we uh start to show. You gotta

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Speaker 1: get the gotta get the caffeine level of the proper road. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I don't operate best first thing in the morning, so

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Speaker 1: this is instrumental to my success. Typically, if I'm getting

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Speaker 1: up this early, I'm going out to kill something, yes,

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Speaker 1: I value, or maybe even hit the links perhaps something

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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, yeah, Not to get up and do work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. Well, you're chatting with you about football. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we can handle it. Typically we do this

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Speaker 1: much later at night though, that's for sure, that's for sure,

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Speaker 1: And that's when I do my best work. Um, some stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we get some stuff the stealers will put on the

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Speaker 1: pads today. Uh, it'll be the first time in pads.

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Speaker 1: We should see some backs on backers. We should see

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Speaker 1: uh with some live tackling. We should see all kinds

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Speaker 1: of good stuff. Yeah. I mean they've been in camping

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Speaker 1: now a while to not be doing much. And I

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Speaker 1: mean the rules of the rules. I mean, everyone's dealing

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Speaker 1: with the same thing. But it seems like a long

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Speaker 1: acclamation period considering that they got a game. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: really is. I asked Mike Tomlin about that the other day,

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Speaker 1: as you know, because he the guy that likes to

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Speaker 1: have his team get physical and practice and practices and

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Speaker 1: training camp. And he's like, well, you know, the rules

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Speaker 1: are the rules. Everybody's working under the same rules. Deal

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Speaker 1: with it, right, But deep down he's saying, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean typically they would have been tackling, not the

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Speaker 1: last three days. Yeah, right, right, And depending how far

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Speaker 1: you go back, sometimes since day one. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna understand the it doesn't have to happen right away,

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Speaker 1: but it just doesn't seem a bit extreme. It makes

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Speaker 1: it tough on the guys trying to make it a

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Speaker 1: name for themselves. The young guys. I mean, again Cam Heyward,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't change his outlook on things or his season

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Speaker 1: or any of those type of things in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: but especially after last year, but no preseason, super shortened camp,

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Speaker 1: some of these young guys, how do you find the

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Speaker 1: James Harrison, Mike Hilton types? You know? And even the fifth, six,

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Speaker 1: seventh round picks sometimes they don't have enough time. You know,

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Speaker 1: last year, if you're a position coach and you know

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Speaker 1: you draft a uh tackle in round two, a guard

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Speaker 1: in round seven, you gotta get that tackle ready to

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Speaker 1: play on game day. And the round seven guys I

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Speaker 1: saw there was a tweet from I believe it was

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Speaker 1: Gil Brandt and and he said, um, I think they

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Speaker 1: were like nine guys in the a OF and maybe

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Speaker 1: seven in the NFC or vice versa. There weren't many

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Speaker 1: drafted players from last year who weren't on rosters this year.

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Speaker 1: Well that's why, that's why you drafted the guy. You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna cut him to keep an undrafted guy who

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Speaker 1: you haven't seen playing a game. Yeah, And that's who

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Speaker 1: it really hurt was the undrafted guys, without question. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if you're a fifth six, seventh round pick. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get the benefit of the doubt. You didn't have

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Speaker 1: enough chance to screw it up, right, right, Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: I do like the fact that they have bigger practice

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Speaker 1: squads though, so at least a lot of those well

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Speaker 1: that helped too, like around you know, but I mean

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Speaker 1: you have no special teams in preseason. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a huge way to make an impact is let me

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Speaker 1: run down on the punt team, let me do all

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Speaker 1: those type of things, and you would you only do

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Speaker 1: it in practice. Special teams in practice isn't close to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you have to show that they desire to

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Speaker 1: doing that, you know. Uh. Cynthia Freeland, a friend of

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Speaker 1: game theories here, and it's projecting the most improved players

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Speaker 1: on each a f C and NFC team. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. And for the Steelers, that guy

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Speaker 1: she what Cynthia wrote about Devin Busher. Um, he said

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Speaker 1: in his rookie season in two thousand nineteen, Bushes impacting

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Speaker 1: coverage was almost immediate. Computer vision shows he was able

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Speaker 1: but I mean that's also a new technology from them,

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Speaker 1: and that he started entering this high level of production

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Speaker 1: The average for off ball linebackers drafted in the first

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Speaker 1: three rounds since two thousand five is about five games

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Speaker 1: before they are consistent and we can determine who they

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Speaker 1: are with any statistical relevance. Given the changes to the

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Speaker 1: Steelers defenses soft season, it seems more. It seems more

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Speaker 1: will be asked to Bush in his return to the

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Speaker 1: field after missing eleven games in and there are great

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Speaker 1: indicators that he will be able to deliver. That's not

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Speaker 1: what Steeler fans think about Devon Busche. I guess this

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Speaker 1: is a bigger He wasn't very good in coverage his

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Speaker 1: first two years, right, That's that's what I hear a lot. Well,

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Speaker 1: he needs to get better in coverage. My take on

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Speaker 1: it was, and this goes back to his Michigan days.

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Speaker 1: I was always impressed with his man coverage skills, particularly

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Speaker 1: a level last year. Barkley comes to mind. Early in

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Speaker 1: I think he was the biggest culprit there. And he

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Speaker 1: played a lot of man coverage against backs, you know

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Speaker 1: where Edmunds often get the tight end. And it's not

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Speaker 1: every snap, but there's a rule of thumb um And

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Speaker 1: even early on, I thought he was a lot better

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean that's not a strict thing.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes the zones it's hard to tell exactly what

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Speaker 1: his job. For example that there was against Denver last year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and he would Bush was not supposed to be the

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Speaker 1: guy who had him. Yeah, but Busch was the closest

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Speaker 1: Bush got beat by fan for a touchdown. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: play better than I was. Two. I mean fans running

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Speaker 1: not like it's the first I've ever had in football's

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Speaker 1: history either, But I mean that's a tough play, especially

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Speaker 1: if you're making up for somebody else. I'm not making

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Speaker 1: do think he's the obvious candidate to be the breakout player.

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Speaker 1: It goes back to the too. You know a lot

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Speaker 1: don't see is that how many times the quarterback looks

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Speaker 1: because the coverage is good, right, absolutely, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that will ever happen, And it's more of a

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Speaker 1: to know the throws that should be made that aren't

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Speaker 1: much toge I can hear that. That's a totally different

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's all. It's the butterfly thing too,

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Speaker 1: advanced stats his rookie year, he gave up He was

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Speaker 1: targeted sixty eight times in sixteen games. You give up

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Speaker 1: forty six completions, that's a sixty almost sixty eight percent

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Speaker 1: See that's what I was saying there, thinking is that

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference, Okay, because I was curious on those completions.

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Speaker 1: he catches him. Last year, he gave up fourteen completions

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Speaker 1: Goals Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally here

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Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson and Matt Um. He's when we were

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425
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Speaker 1: good line, and then he's trying to make up for

426
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 1: it too much with the bad line. There's a lot

427
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Speaker 1: of bad habits though, that they need to coach out

428
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Speaker 1: of him. Yeah. Well, we'll see, and I guess it's

429
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: a good pick, but we'll see. Here's the thing that

430
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: Indianapolis doesn't have great receivers. They don't have a they

431
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Speaker 1: don't have a true number one pit. You know, we

432
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: both like Pittman coming out. He might have been my pick,

433
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, a step forward, but there's

434
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Speaker 1: no number one. Do they have a they've got a

435
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 1: bunch of twos and threes, and even the tight ends

436
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: are okay. But they use a lot of people, and

437
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: there's bring this up a lot like Kyler Murray. They

438
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: gave him DeAndre Hopkins, Josh Allen, they gave him Stefon Diggs.

439
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 1: Like I know not there's not thirty two of those

440
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: type of receivers out there, but boy, if you had,

441
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: if you could add one high quality starting receiver, go

442
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: to guy, boy, it would help some of these quarterbacks.

443
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Speaker 1: For Jackson Villis Laviska Senault. I agree. I think a

444
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: lot of people look at him like he's a quarterrel Patterson,

445
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Speaker 1: Percy Harvin. I think he's more of a route runner,

446
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: you know, give him a slant, take it to the

447
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: house type guy. I mean, I think he's much more

448
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Speaker 1: than just a gadget dude. For the Chiefs, it is

449
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Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire. It's a good one, Yeah, he had

450
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: some struggles. Um. For the Raiders is Henry Ruggs. Probably

451
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: another good one. I mean, I think it's it's too

452
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Speaker 1: early just to say the Raiders are dumb. They should

453
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Speaker 1: have taken Judy or lamb Ruggs as a bust, you know.

454
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if if Rugs would have went in that draft,

455
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: you'd say okay, So you know it was up in

456
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: downs rookie year. But there's still immense talent that what happens.

457
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know he's going to be spotty.

458
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: He's probably his whole career in production wise for the Chargers.

459
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: It's justin Herbert. And she said, this one feels like cheating. Um,

460
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: but can you read the verbage I would have put

461
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: on there? Derwin James, that's a good one, just because

462
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: he's capable of the Yeah, but we haven't seen it

463
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: in two years. It's late in his career. But I

464
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: think Mike Williams is in for a big year. She said,

465
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: this one feels like cheating, but the Foe rules of

466
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: this article allow her but to qualify, so I'll take it.

467
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: At this time last season, we didn't know when Herbert

468
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: would start, and there were questions about how he'd fair

469
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: under pressure. His response a cool one thousand passing yards

470
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: and nine touchdowns under pressure, both of which led the NFL.

471
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: Herbert's ability to produce under pressure is a strong signal

472
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: for this seasons but potential, and it drives his values

473
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Speaker 1: to QB eleven right now. Note this could and likely

474
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: will change his camp in preseason, involved in the involved

475
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: the roster in playbook, a new coach means new plays,

476
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: so look out for fantasy in Folk come late to

477
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: mid August. It does seem a little bit like cheating.

478
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean, is he gonna take another step forward? I mean,

479
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: if he is, then he's like a top five quarterback.

480
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: What we've typically seen from the second year quarterbacks after

481
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: a breakout season is a bit of a regression generally speaking. Yeah, right,

482
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: his protection will be a lot better. But his numbers

483
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: in under pressure were awesome, as you mentioned, But they

484
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: weren't awesome in the Cleeve pocket. They were good. They

485
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: weren't blow you away. Not that not that it's better

486
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: that he's running around for his life. I think they'll

487
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: be happy to have Matt Feiler. But I think you know,

488
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: opponents have now had an entire offseason to sit and study. Okay,

489
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: here's what Justin Herbert does well, here's what he doesn't

490
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: do well, And you're gonna throw new things at him,

491
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: gonna throw new things at him. And again, there was

492
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: like three games I think it was Miami Detroit in

493
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: New England. That has to go back and look at

494
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: their schedule. They were all Blichick disciples, and he was

495
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: confused in all of them. So he's gonna see a

496
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Speaker 1: lot of what they did, you know. And I'm sure

497
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Speaker 1: he's working on that too. From Miami, it's Mike KISSICKI

498
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: m hm. He's a perfect candidate at this stage of

499
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: his career to be that break, breakout tight end. I

500
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: just don't know the target share with Wattle, will Fuller.

501
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: Davante Parker's good. He hasn't done anywhere, he hasn't gone anywhere.

502
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they got four out and four guys now, Like,

503
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's for me for fantasy, but

504
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean he could take a step forward as a player. Boy,

505
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: I disagree with her one for the Patriots. She has

506
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Speaker 1: Nelson Aguilar. Mm. I think he's reached his peak. He's

507
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. He is what he is at

508
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: this point. There's a lot of candidates for them I

509
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: would take, Like, I really like Josh Josh coming out. Yeah,

510
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: one of those guys defensive players there. There's some other

511
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: receivers that I would take off that team. Uh yeah,

512
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that that to me, I

513
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: think I've really warmed up to Jacoby Myers. Yeah, I

514
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: think he's the best receiver they have. Aguilar is weird

515
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: to me because I didn't like him coming out of

516
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: school because I thought he was not explosive and fast

517
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: enough to be ted Ginn and I didn't think he

518
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: was physical or quick enough to be a pure slot.

519
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: So he's and I was right to be honest with

520
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: you for the first couple of years, and then did

521
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: Gruden's credit, he used them pretty much exclusively as a

522
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: deep threat last year and it worked out well. And

523
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 1: I think that's what he is, and that's what the

524
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Patriots will probably do with them. But I think it's

525
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: already he is what he is already. I mean, I

526
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: think we saw the best of him in in Vegas

527
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: last year. Um, for the Jets, it's Quinn and Williams.

528
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: I think he's a total superstar. Yea and the Roberts Salah,

529
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: go get him attacking front four defense will be great

530
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: for him. Yeah. For the Titans, it's Anthony fer Ser.

531
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Speaker 1: That's gonna all be all about our opportunity. Yeah, he's

532
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: not a bad athlete. Yeah, he's gonna get every snap

533
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: they were a very very heavy twelve personnel team last

534
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: year with John New and Ferkser, and now I would

535
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: assume they'll play more eleven and always keep those two

536
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: receivers on the field, but maybe Josh Reynolds as well

537
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: and play less you know, double tight end sets, which

538
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: would make sense because they lost one. But that doesn't

539
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: hurt Ferk Sir, I mean I think he's okay. Yeah,

540
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals at Sizaiah Simmons, that it's all. I mean,

541
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: he's a year younger than Bush, but it's almost put up,

542
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: shut up, the same age. He's the same age, younger. Yeah,

543
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: you're a year a draft year younger. Uh. For the Falcons,

544
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: it's a j Terrell took him in the first round

545
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: and he wasn't terrible, but you know they passed on

546
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and he took you know. For the Panthers,

547
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, I mean, she's predicting these guys to take

548
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: a step forward, and that's who you want to take

549
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 1: a step forward. I think he'll be better in that situation.

550
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: The weapons are better. He's out of New York where

551
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: he was that you know, you were the third overall

552
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, like yeah. I think they're well

553
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: coached team too, and it's very much like the Went

554
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: situation for the Bears. It's cool Commet m m M.

555
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that. He played more and more

556
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: the season went on. Um, you don't remember, like Cole

557
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: Commet and Notre Dame was a two sport athlete and

558
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: now he's just concentrated on football for the second year.

559
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: You know, rookie tight ends, you can't expect the ton

560
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: from no. I think that's a good one for the

561
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: Cowboys at Seedee Lamb. Yeah, we've talked about him a time,

562
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: and him and Dak together we're tearing it up. And

563
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: then Dak went down for the Lions. It's chef of Cuda.

564
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: He had a really rough rookie year. I mean, almost

565
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: all the rookie corners did. They had no pass rush

566
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: pass rush and you know right, yeah, that's a good

567
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: one too for the Packers. It's for Shawn Gary. Yeah,

568
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: he's flashed more than I thought. I know you and

569
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: I were hard on him coming out of Michigan because

570
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: there's production. Another one of those guys that had no

571
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: production to production. But he's flashing and he's not even

572
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: like counted on for a ton of snaps with them.

573
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean they have the quote Smith Brothers and you know,

574
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: a good defensive line. This one's interesting. For the Rams,

575
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford little late to break out three years old. Again,

576
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of a cheat. For the Vikings

577
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: is IRV Smith. I agree with that. He's still and

578
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: so he's younger than people think. He's a pretty decent blocker. Um,

579
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: that's another team that he's not really competing with the

580
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: third receiver. I mean he's the third receiver there the

581
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: other real heavy twelve personnel team, which works fine with him. Uh.

582
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: For the Saints, it's Adam Troutman, especially the Thomas injury.

583
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: For the Giants at Xavier McKinney, Yeah, he didn't play

584
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: much as a rookie, was good, probably like the second

585
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: or third pick in the second round old For the

586
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: Eagles is Dallas Goddard. That kind of seems like cheating

587
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, it doesn't. I don't know if

588
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: anyone's biting on taking Earth's off their hands, but I

589
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: think Goddard's already kind of broken out for the Yeah,

590
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: for the forty Niners, Javon Kinlaw. They need him to. Yeah,

591
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of talked about Quentin Williams and

592
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: that style of defense when he traded Buckner and they

593
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: go draftkin Law. He flashed a little, but they need

594
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: him to they need him. Yeah. For the Seahawks, it's

595
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks. Yeah, that was an odd pick. kJ writes, gone,

596
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Brooks will be a full time player. Um, but he

597
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: flashed as well. And kJ Rachel isn't signed in the

598
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is Carlton Davis m good player? Good player

599
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit on a you know, star studded team.

600
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: And then for Washington it's your guy, Antonio Gibson. Mm hmm,

601
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean he's very volatile. He could be

602
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: a home runner, he could be forget about him and

603
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: think of what if. But I think he's his whole

604
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: key is you gotta get m Kissic out of the past.

605
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: But the Memphis coaches look can the day. Yeah, they

606
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: keep pumping out these backs, you know, gain well and

607
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: at least they use those guys. I mean, I get

608
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: a game was a good player. Paulard was good right,

609
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: all right, But this guy, every time he touched the ball,

610
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: he takes the house. It might be better than both

611
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: of those guys, and you didn't give him the football, right.

612
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: I think he had like a hundred touches at Memphis

613
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: and scored like thirteen touchdowns or something. You know, it

614
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: was something ridiculous like touches, not catches. Touches right, including

615
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: like kickoff returns. Right, Like, it's not a real difficult

616
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: ratio to figure out that maybe we should give him

617
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: the ball. He's gonna score every time we touched a

618
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: handed to him, maybe we should do. If he's scoring

619
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Speaker 1: one set of every you know, eight or nine times,

620
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: you give him the football, wouldn't you want to give

621
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: it to him like maybe eighteen times? Right, let's or

622
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: maybe they just didn't feel like you can handle it.

623
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: But he's showing on the NFL that, Yeah, we'll see.

624
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a big year for him too, But

625
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: they don't haven't invested in any other backs. I mean,

626
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: he should be the guy there, yeah, for sure. But

627
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Speaker 1: interesting stuff there from Cynthia Freeland. We're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll hear from Steelers GM Kevin Colbert.

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Speaker 1: He addressed the media yesterday. We'll hear what he some

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Speaker 1: of the things that he had to say right after this.

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Speaker 1: about Drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lilly here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: And as I mentioned in the previous segment, we heard

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Speaker 1: from Kevin Colbert yesterday. Uh, that will probably be the

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Speaker 1: last time we hear from Kevin Colbert in that kind

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Speaker 1: of setting. Uh. It was a kind of a press conference.

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Speaker 1: He usually does this back in our pod at the

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Speaker 1: at Saint Vincent College. He'll come back to pot A

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Speaker 1: where the most of the writers and radio guys are

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Speaker 1: at in sit down, and we'll have a little impromptu

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Speaker 1: press conference. He's done it for about ten years now,

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Speaker 1: maybe longer. Yeah, the first part it's kind of off

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Speaker 1: the record to give us some background stuff on. Usually

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Speaker 1: it's you know, who's eligible for the practice squad, And

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Speaker 1: right now they're working under the assumption that, um, everybody's

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Speaker 1: going to be eligible for the practice yet, because last

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Speaker 1: year that those are the rules, and you know the

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Speaker 1: NFL still hasn't figured those out. I would assume that

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Speaker 1: they're going to still work under the rules from last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't know, we don't. Yeah, I mean they can.

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Speaker 1: They can change your mind. Um, so last year, anybody

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Speaker 1: was eligible to be on the practice squad because you

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Speaker 1: can car, you can carry veteran guys are because you

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Speaker 1: needed that because of COVID issues. You know, get a

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Speaker 1: guy in here quick. A lot of people kept an

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Speaker 1: extra kicker, long snapper, things that specialists that you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: if this guy gets ready. It took five days for

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Speaker 1: the new guy to come in. If you find out

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Speaker 1: somebody test positive on a Tuesday or Wednesday, you weren't

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Speaker 1: getting him in let alone on a thurs there Friday. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: so you had to keep some of those guys available

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Speaker 1: and around just to cover your butt. Yeah. So obviously

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Speaker 1: some challenges and interesting to see what Kevin had to

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Speaker 1: say here is good stuff. Yeah, let's let's hear what

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Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert had to say on Tuesday. And um to

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Speaker 1: go back on what he did for us back in

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Speaker 1: the spring by taking a restructuring of his contract. It

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Speaker 1: was done with really two purposes, the first that being

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Speaker 1: his being able to be here and then also allowing

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Speaker 1: us to do some things financially and cap wise that

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Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't have been able to do without that restruction.

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Speaker 1: So it was a very unselfish move on his part.

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Speaker 1: It made him available for beyond that none of us know,

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Speaker 1: and we'll just work with one and see where it

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Speaker 1: goes from there. Forcause cap project, you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: a different environment completely, And we talked about this a

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Speaker 1: little bit in the off season. UM, we knew we

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Speaker 1: were gonna be up against the cap last year when

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Speaker 1: the pandemic hit and the and the cap went down,

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Speaker 1: we were severely up against the cap and we had

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Speaker 1: to make some obviously tough decisions. So moving forward, we

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Speaker 1: think we know where the cap will go. UM, we're

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Speaker 1: hopeful that it does and can we make certain players

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Speaker 1: fit within that group. And we always, you know, we

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Speaker 1: always will do a deal based on what it does

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Speaker 1: to us in and we try to project what it

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Speaker 1: will do to us three years down the road. And

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Speaker 1: that's not unique, UM, other than us not knowing what

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Speaker 1: that new amount will be. We think we know where

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Speaker 1: it is. We've been given a UM the floor, but

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Speaker 1: we don't know where it'll go. So we'll just trying

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Speaker 1: to do the best we can. Bill none. I'm taught

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Speaker 1: us on a daily basis, um, just how to be

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Speaker 1: a professional first and foremost I mean you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the majority of you folks ran across Bill

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Speaker 1: in some form or fashion, and you cherished every discussion

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Speaker 1: with him because he could talk not only about football players,

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Speaker 1: but he could talk about boxers, uh, entertainers, baseball players

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Speaker 1: and tell you about how he rode Roberto Clementi to

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Speaker 1: the airport after the nineteen sixty World Series. UM. So

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Speaker 1: he could tell you stories that were impactful life lessons. UM.

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Speaker 1: From a football standpoint. You know, Bill would always remind

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Speaker 1: you of let's just talk about the athleticism of this player.

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Speaker 1: He said, it's up to the coaches to take that

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Speaker 1: athleticism and make them in to a probe because they

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Speaker 1: all don't start out as Pro bowlers are Hall of

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Speaker 1: famers UM. And Donnie Shell's case, it's a classic example

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Speaker 1: the Bills buying raw talent as a college linebacker at

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Speaker 1: South Carolina State and saying, Hey, coach, I think this

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Speaker 1: guy can be this type of player, which obviously going

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Speaker 1: into Hall of Fame he turned into. So Bill just

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Speaker 1: reminded us daily of the the basic athletic traits that

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Speaker 1: coach nol was looking for back then. And it was

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Speaker 1: really a time where those two, along with Art Rooney Jr.

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Speaker 1: And Dick Hayley and Tom Modrack and Coach Nold's staff,

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Speaker 1: they put together the you know, the greatest teams in

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Speaker 1: NFL history in that era and the greatest draft in

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Speaker 1: NFL history. No, no, for real, I can't and did

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Speaker 1: you can? Didn't bring again when we when we had

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Speaker 1: to make some we really make some tough decisions. We

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Speaker 1: had starters that we would have liked to have kept.

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Speaker 1: We would have liked to have kept all of our

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Speaker 1: starters and start over this year, um, but we weren't

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Speaker 1: able to do that. We knew about it, and we

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Speaker 1: had to make some changes as as it went on.

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Speaker 1: And as you go through a spring and you're able

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Speaker 1: to sign a player of your own, um, on your

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Speaker 1: own team, and then you say, if you do this,

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Speaker 1: you may have to cut this player. And we had

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Speaker 1: to do those back and forth, and really our cap

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Speaker 1: situation changed literally three weeks or I'm sorry, coming out

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Speaker 1: of the mini camp, you know, when we decided to

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Speaker 1: move on from David, and all of a sudden we

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Speaker 1: had cap room and now we're looking to wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: this player is available, we might be able to sign

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Speaker 1: him because he was looking for a certain number back

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Speaker 1: in the spring. Now in the early summer he might

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Speaker 1: be more affordable. So we tried to make those decisions. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's an into visual thing. Sometimes it's positional. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: just a money issue how you can afford certain players.

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Speaker 1: And we're happy with the group that's come together to

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Speaker 1: this point. When Melvin Ingram was still available and we

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Speaker 1: could work it, we were happy to do that. When

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Speaker 1: Trey Turner was affordable and workable, we were happy to

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Speaker 1: do that. So we'll see what we got. We don't

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Speaker 1: know yet because we haven't played seventeen. Um, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: coachs will approach it, you know, as he does, and

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Speaker 1: he'll make adjustments to his practice regiment. But until you

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Speaker 1: go through those seventeen weeks, we're just making guesses as

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Speaker 1: to how he'll structure his practices with his veteran players.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he followed a certain pattern with sixteen games and

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Speaker 1: the placement of our by, but now he'll follow a

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Speaker 1: different pattern with the seventeen position figure Right now, No, now,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say we lacked depth. We have to I

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Speaker 1: think we lack proven abilities. Do we have people who

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Speaker 1: can play every position on this team? I feel yes,

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Speaker 1: but they have to come out and prove it. Um.

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Speaker 1: Alex Highsmith has to prove that he could be a

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Speaker 1: sixteen game starter, and he'll be challenged by Melvin Ingram.

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Speaker 1: Can Cam Sutton be an outside corner on sixteen games?

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Speaker 1: And you know you look at those things and you

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Speaker 1: you made decisions based on we think they can. But

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Speaker 1: until those players do it, we don't know. Yeah. Again,

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Speaker 1: never talk about an individual's contract negotiations. We know who

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Speaker 1: our free agents are. We know we want to keep

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Speaker 1: our good players. Um, and we'll see where it goes

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Speaker 1: as the rest of the summer unfolds. Views. Yeah, created

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Speaker 1: better than reveal conversations. You haven't done the other things

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Speaker 1: you feel like untoppable things you have negotiative Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and again that's an organization decision based on Mr Rooney's

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Speaker 1: directive on arts directive, and we talked about trying to

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Speaker 1: keep pace with what's going on in the league. You

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Speaker 1: referenced the one year deals that we hadn't done traditionally.

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Speaker 1: We recognize that we probably had to under these circumstances,

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Speaker 1: albeit the different rules, UM the circumstances from coming off

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Speaker 1: the lower cap, and we made some adjustments there. I

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Speaker 1: know we will hold on to the other our own

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Speaker 1: personal or um individual rules for the organization of We

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Speaker 1: won't negotiate with a player once the season starts. I

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Speaker 1: never ever see that change in because our only focus

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Speaker 1: should be on winning a Super Bowl. Wrong again, Well,

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Speaker 1: we will always try to stay as current as possible

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Speaker 1: by staying with and by staying within our own beliefs.

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Speaker 1: The our own beliefs will always override what's going on

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Speaker 1: in the league. Character. Did any character that t J.

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Speaker 1: Watt has proven to be a very good defensive player, UM,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's There's nothing, There's nothing you can add

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Speaker 1: to what he's done on the field other than win

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Speaker 1: a championship. I think the unique part of those five

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Speaker 1: people going into that Hall of Fame this weekend, they're

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Speaker 1: all super Bowl champions, some of them in Bill Nun's

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Speaker 1: case six times, UM coach Kaward with one and Troy

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Speaker 1: with two, and Allen you know with his one, and

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Speaker 1: UM Donny with his four. But they're all super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 1: I think every player, you know, we've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of great players come through here. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: great players in the Hall of Fame, but the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champion is the one thing that we want them

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Speaker 1: all to experience at some point birthday. What you I mean.

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Speaker 1: We we try to learn all the new players as

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Speaker 1: they come in. Um. You'll see us spending more time

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Speaker 1: with the individuals and learning about them. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram and Trade that we talked about, Chaz Green,

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Speaker 1: the young offensive lineman we picked up. We'll learn about

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Speaker 1: them constantly. We just want to know what they're about

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Speaker 1: and what they're seeing, what they're feeling, and they come

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Speaker 1: to us with a lot of questions and comments as well. Um.

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Speaker 1: But we do that with each each player. We know

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Speaker 1: the draft picks a little bit more because we spent

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Speaker 1: more time with them. A guy like Dwayne we didn't

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with in in pre draft

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Speaker 1: work because we knew we weren't going to get them. Um.

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Speaker 1: But you learn about them as you go through it.

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Speaker 1: You learn about them as you go through. That's what

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Speaker 1: training camp is about. That's what it's all here for.

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Speaker 1: That moving Haskins you mentioned there at the end, Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: that was Kevin Covert with the Assembled media yesterday. Of

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Speaker 1: course that questions about t J. Watt and what's with him.

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Speaker 1: I asked him about that. He wouldn't bite on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's been around the block obviously, And how

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Speaker 1: do you respond something like we don't really talk about

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Speaker 1: player individual player contracts and I don't think anyone's super

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Speaker 1: concerned about it. Yeah, they still want to sign t J. One.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna happen. Um, it'll be interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: much the dollars. When you heard him talk about Ben

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger there, and you know, the the quote was, well,

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Speaker 1: we're worried about Ben. We're not worried about Ben beyond one.

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Speaker 1: We're just worried about they'll they'll cross that bridge when

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Speaker 1: they get there, which I thought was very honest, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was a little ship of everything he said.

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Speaker 1: That might have been the thing that shocked me most

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Speaker 1: was just the way he phrased it. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're because you're gonna probably see this clip on NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com or something. We'll just take that tiny snippet.

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Speaker 1: We're not worried about Ben paste you know, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that they're totally shut the door on the guy

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Speaker 1: or anything. He goes out and has a good year,

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Speaker 1: then you know, but he's holding up five million dollar

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Speaker 1: pay cut that he took this year. He get next

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Speaker 1: year back if he has a good year this year, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think any of us expect him

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Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback past this year. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think the crazier things have happened. Tom Brady's gonna

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Speaker 1: be forty four next week. Forty four. I mean, Rivers

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Speaker 1: went to the Colts and decent successful year and you know,

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Speaker 1: so no, I mean, these guys hold on for a while.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers won the MVP. Yeah, he's thirty eight years old.

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Speaker 1: People don't realize old Aaron Rodgers is. He's a year

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Speaker 1: younger than Yeah, and we think he came out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he came out the year after because I was Ryan.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ryan Fitzpatrick's the same age. It's there's there's

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Speaker 1: a long list of quarterbacks playing, laid into their careers

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Speaker 1: and playing it's not just a one. Yeah, like Washington

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Speaker 1: fans and even like national media. Oh they get a

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Speaker 1: shot in the arm with Fitzpatrick, you know, like he's

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Speaker 1: this young dude, or something. It would be the interesting

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Speaker 1: thing if if Ben Roethlisberg and he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: do this and he's not going to do this, but

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Speaker 1: if he had gone to a different team this year,

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Speaker 1: what would the narrative be right right interesting? Or he

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Speaker 1: replaces Rivers and in let's say the Jets had had

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Speaker 1: the with the narrative in New York other getting the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback here, he's gonna, you know, probably

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Speaker 1: be very similar to how it was with Rivers. We

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Speaker 1: went to Indo last year, you know, a long time charger.

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna go there and get reinvigorated and lead

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Speaker 1: the offense. And they haven't had somebody the probably a

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Speaker 1: lot somehow the narrative here as well. Ben kes his

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Speaker 1: arms shot right right right. I just I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it either. It's it's it's it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty successful season after a season in which he threw

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Speaker 1: thirty three touchdown part yeah, definitly, getting it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: fun to watch, that's why they play the games. But

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Speaker 1: that is going to do it for the first hour

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Speaker 1: of the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. He is Williamson,

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. Kellen Girsky here with us as well,

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Speaker 1: keeping us on the air. We always appreciate his efforts

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Speaker 1: and we appreciate you listening to this first hour. We'll

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