Speaker 1: We are back for episode five of the next pro
Speaker 1: just literal weeks away from the start of season thirty
Speaker 1: five of Dancing with the Stars, I already feel the
Speaker 1: buzz building, rumors freely flying online about who will be
Speaker 1: participating val Do you look for any of this online
Speaker 1: chatter or do you completely avoid it?
Speaker 2: About next bro?
Speaker 3: No, about dance season thirty five of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars, I am outside of the chatter.
Speaker 3: You don't love, you don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm not a good recipient of gossip, okay, Like I
Speaker 2: don't reciprocate, you know. I like to gossip for the
Speaker 2: like the social equity that you have. Right You're like, yo,
Speaker 2: did you know? And I'm like cool, And then they're like,
Speaker 2: well that was underwhelming. I'm not wasting my secrets on
Speaker 2: this dude, you know. So they go somewhere else. It
Speaker 2: does intersect me, obviously, because I'm not completely ignorant. I
Speaker 2: do want to participate, you know. I think that's me
Speaker 2: walking the line is like I don't want to be
Speaker 2: this high brow like I'm above this. I want to participate,
Speaker 2: but I want to participate it in an order, like
Speaker 2: a real authentic way. You know what I'm not supposed
Speaker 2: to know. I'm not supposed to know, and I don't
Speaker 2: want to know, you know, Like right now is when
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I heard this one, got this one.
Speaker 2: I heard this one's doing the show. They're definitely going
Speaker 2: to pair up this one with this one, and I'm
Speaker 2: just not interested in that because I know for a
Speaker 2: fact that they change things around last second, like literally
Speaker 2: last second until you see each other in the room.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, And so the speculation, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's a waste of my energy,
Speaker 2: right because I started building things in my mind. Oh okay, cool,
Speaker 2: Oh we could do this and then it flip. So
Speaker 2: I'd rather, like I said, I'd just rather be genuinely
Speaker 2: surprised when I mean my partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah then yeah, Well you and I did some interviews
Speaker 1: together at the Dancing with the Stars Con, but we
Speaker 1: did not check in again with our listeners once it began.
Speaker 1: Now that it is in the books, it's done, the
Speaker 1: first ever Dancing with the Stars con. What did you
Speaker 1: think of the first annual event?
Speaker 2: I thought it was massive. I thought it was like
Speaker 2: larger than life. Moments you know. I mean, obviously I'm
Speaker 2: a big sports fan. Having in an arena we had
Speaker 2: the Glitter Games on Friday, when we entered the arena
Speaker 2: with the co two like oh yeah, it just fell
Speaker 2: and having kind of maybe not three sixty but eighty five.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I never passed geometry, but whatever.
Speaker 2: Just having a crowd around us was epic. And then
Speaker 2: everything else is like the things that I love to
Speaker 2: do in the dance space just you know, magnified, right,
Speaker 2: I love to teach. So I got to teach an
Speaker 2: arena full of dance. You know people, everybody was up
Speaker 2: in their seats dancing. Like my little half an hour
Speaker 2: group class was probably my favorite part of the weekend.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: We had the Phaedra Parks Assist thing. It was just
Speaker 2: again to me, a social dance class. Now again, when
Speaker 2: I teach like serious dance classes, that's different. But again
Speaker 2: I'm trying to build something where it's accessible to as
Speaker 2: many people as possible. And a lot of times dance
Speaker 2: obviously is very intimidating, So you know, I I treat
Speaker 2: it more like a like a fun line dance I teach.
Speaker 2: On the backdrop off, I get to do stand up
Speaker 2: and just you know, have fun and make jokes and
Speaker 2: people walk away feeling good. I walk away alive, full
Speaker 2: of service. You know. I feel like I've earned my
Speaker 2: keeping this life and that's it, you know, And then
Speaker 2: we keep it moving. But the pictures, the meeting, the hugging,
Speaker 2: you know, the panels, getting to share my thoughts on
Speaker 2: the thing that has occupied my life for so long,
Speaker 2: and in the best way possible. I mean, it's a
Speaker 2: dream weekend for me. Yeah, and you know, in the
Speaker 2: process again, connecting with the people, not just people, but
Speaker 2: the people in particular that have made the show success. Yes,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's an exchange of gratitude and it's really fun.
Speaker 1: Well, let's jump into the next pro We only have
Speaker 1: six dancers left, so we are here to recap season one,
Speaker 1: episode five. We get the highlights from last week and
Speaker 1: Robert returns to greet our remaining hopefuls and let them
Speaker 1: know they are at the competition's halfway point. It's only
Speaker 1: going to get harder from here. Our judges, Surely and
Speaker 1: Mark Ballas then enter the room. Surely's in a white
Speaker 1: frilly top. Not sure if that's important to the recap,
Speaker 1: but I did just want to mention it, because she
Speaker 1: looks fantastic, very important. I'm always looking at what she's wearing,
Speaker 1: and I like that. Every week it's something totally different.
Speaker 1: We've seen bare shoulders, fully covered shoulders. She has got
Speaker 1: incredible fashion sense.
Speaker 2: Again, there are dancers, there are dancers trying to win
Speaker 2: a show. But the star of this, this, this entire
Speaker 2: project that Shirley Dallas.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, Shirley mentions she's looking for confidence, and then Mark,
Speaker 1: a Dancing with the Stars finalist eleven times, then tells
Speaker 1: them to embrace the pressure because that is what makes
Speaker 1: Diamonds such a hater.
Speaker 2: I immediately thought to myself, well, you know, we're tied for
Speaker 2: that record.
Speaker 3: They didn't even mention it. How rude tied for that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently Mark and I share the most Finals appearance ever. Wow,
Speaker 2: I think I believe. So we'll fact check this.
Speaker 3: And who's done. Have you guys also done the same
Speaker 3: amount of seasons?
Speaker 2: I believe so at this point, yes, because he started earlier,
Speaker 2: but then he took a little break.
Speaker 3: A little break. Yeah, wow, you guys are neck and neck.
Speaker 2: Oh anyway, anyway, Yeah, no, it's it's it's a great episode.
Speaker 2: I think it's a it's a great challenge. Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: We're introduced to this week's guest judge, twenty twenty one's
Speaker 1: Mirror Ball champ, the Emmy nominated Ferrari herself, Daniella Kara Gosh,
Speaker 1: m Now, what can you tell us about Daniella as
Speaker 1: a dancer, a partner, a competitor.
Speaker 3: She's special, right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean she's been spa I know her
Speaker 2: since she was a kid. We kind of came up
Speaker 2: from the same area, Brooklyn, New York. There's just so
Speaker 2: much I have so much pride for the individual that
Speaker 2: comes from that region. I mean, obviously I'm a product that,
Speaker 2: but again I moved from Brooklyn at a young age
Speaker 2: as well, and you know, I'm a New Yorker. Obviously
Speaker 2: I love the tri said area, but those were formative years. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I know Daniella from that dance scene and before we
Speaker 2: get to the accolades and the competitive stuff. Just to
Speaker 2: see her do a contemporary piece as the highlight of
Speaker 2: who she's coming, you know, how she's showing up. That
Speaker 2: to me is such a huge accomplishment. I'm so proud
Speaker 2: of her because again, neither one of us grew up
Speaker 2: with contemporary in our vocabulary, and the fact that when
Speaker 2: she joined the show, contemporary was still not part of
Speaker 2: her vocabulary. This is something that she's grown into while
Speaker 2: doing the show right, and again, for me, that's a
Speaker 2: testament to when she joined Dancing with the Stars, she
Speaker 2: was elite, the master of her craft on a different
Speaker 2: level that everybody got to see very quickly. But the
Speaker 2: fact that she was humble enough and open enough and
Speaker 2: still hungry enough to learn other styles enough to now
Speaker 2: be an exampful to the show to the next bro
Speaker 2: I'm proud of that. I'm proud of her, and I'm
Speaker 2: proud to have the world celebrate this talent.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, we hear a lot, obviously about the incredible
Speaker 2: talent that comes out of Provo, Utah and Utah in general.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's a community in Brooklyn, New York,
Speaker 2: in the greater tri State New York area that is
Speaker 2: producing some of the best ballroom land dancers that represent
Speaker 2: this country, the United States for a long time as winners,
Speaker 2: World Champions, Blackpool Champions. You know, we're proud to be
Speaker 2: Americans too. Yeah, even though we have these odd sounding names. Right,
Speaker 2: So again, she's a product of that environment, and I
Speaker 2: you know, I appreciate her in the room that I
Speaker 2: get to shining as well.
Speaker 1: It's always so nice to hear you lay praise on
Speaker 1: everyone that you know you do such a good job
Speaker 1: of it. Daniella performs to a slow rendition of Tears
Speaker 1: for Fears Everybody wants to Rule the World, and as always,
Speaker 1: it is stellar, with lots of awe inspiring lifts and
Speaker 1: a few of her biggest viral moments from past seasons.
Speaker 1: I know, it was like a cocktail of it was
Speaker 1: like valves knee walks, and then there was the walk
Speaker 1: and yeah, Robert has only three words when it's done.
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, Wow.
Speaker 1: Daniella explains that she has learned that successful Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars dances have to include wow moments that can
Speaker 1: go viral and that means more votes. So this week's
Speaker 1: challenge for the theme is Wow Moments, and it'll be
Speaker 1: contemporary and we'll need to include one of three Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Star's viral moments celebrity podcaster Valschmarkowsky's knee walks,
Speaker 1: Whitney Carson's leg lift, or Daniella's very own air walk.
Speaker 1: Plus they will need to add one of their own
Speaker 1: unique viral attempts into the mix. As Shirley explains, look
Speaker 1: to find something the audience has never seen before.
Speaker 3: How hard is that?
Speaker 1: Like when we talk about music or TV or movies,
Speaker 1: a lot of what comes up is is there any
Speaker 1: anything new? Is there ever anything truly that we haven't
Speaker 1: experienced before? Or is something always you know, somewhat taken
Speaker 1: from something else? How hard is it to come up
Speaker 1: with a dance move that no one's ever seen?
Speaker 2: Uh, It's very hard.
Speaker 3: How do you guys seem to do it so easily?
Speaker 2: We don't. I just think dance moves are just you know,
Speaker 2: they're they're just the script. They're just the words. You know,
Speaker 2: these words take on different shape with every single person,
Speaker 2: you know, a different person doing them. You know, they're
Speaker 2: not the same. And so this is a hard episode
Speaker 2: for me because, you know, a wow moment? What is
Speaker 2: a wow moment? I'm a believer in the human part
Speaker 2: of this thing, right, I think people make the dance incredible,
Speaker 2: not the dance, yeah, you know, And so of course
Speaker 2: I want cool choreography. But I'm never tripping about choreography honestly,
Speaker 2: because I'll make any choreography great because I am a
Speaker 2: part of it. I'm going to be doing that choreography,
Speaker 2: even the craziest stuff, unless it's like breaking my body.
Speaker 2: You know, I will put so much soul into that
Speaker 2: it'll it'll be the greatest thing you've ever seen. Right.
Speaker 2: So that's what I believe in. And for that reason,
Speaker 2: I'm not a trickster. I'm not really a thrower or
Speaker 2: any of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But we saw you try to do a double cart
Speaker 3: wheel last year.
Speaker 2: I did, and you see how that ended. I love
Speaker 2: the spirit. But on the flip side, it's not about
Speaker 2: what I think, or what I am or what you know.
Speaker 2: I do see the value in the wow moment that
Speaker 2: is physical, acrobatic just that I think there's a psychology
Speaker 2: there that isn't about dance at all. It's just about
Speaker 2: the human psychology of like, Wow, this death, death defying
Speaker 2: feet that you see. That's not dance to me. That
Speaker 2: is just a dole acrobatic, cergus lete type of performative thing.
Speaker 2: If you're asking me as a pure dancer, and that's
Speaker 2: where I am again. For me, the wow moments have
Speaker 2: always been about the exchange between two people and the
Speaker 2: quality of everything else. That's the wow. The wow is
Speaker 2: how I how I move?
Speaker 3: But that may be for dance, but we're talking Dancing
Speaker 3: with the Stars totally, and so now we're talking votes
Speaker 3: and social I liked.
Speaker 2: This episode and it's important. I'm just not the guy
Speaker 2: for this episode. This is the episode I would have
Speaker 2: been eliminated.
Speaker 3: Really, this would have been your week. You would have
Speaker 3: been totally. I don't want to do I spoil it.
Speaker 3: How do the people know? Are they waiting till the end?
Speaker 2: I don't know waiting. I think it's a very controversial moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I did. I just got word about something.
Speaker 2: What is it.
Speaker 1: Remember at the beginning of the show, we had talked
Speaker 1: about how you and Mark were tied for being in
Speaker 1: the finals eleven times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I brought that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I did just get word that you've You've
Speaker 1: actually only only been in the finals ten times to
Speaker 1: Mark eleven, so he does have one more than you there.
Speaker 1: But but you guys are tied with ten each for
Speaker 1: top three finishes.
Speaker 2: So top three finish, top three.
Speaker 1: Finishes, you are tied with ten each. But he has
Speaker 1: made it to the finals one more time than you.
Speaker 2: Listen, because they'll squeeze him into the final just to
Speaker 2: have him in there. I mean for me, the final
Speaker 2: is top three.
Speaker 3: Okay, I see and we tied there? You tied there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is I don't want to hear.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So Adele admits that this will be her first time
Speaker 1: performing at contemporary, which sounds daunting, especially when Robert remind
Speaker 1: them at the end of the episode someone will be
Speaker 1: eliminated and for some inspiration this week, Robert says he
Speaker 1: wants to take them to a place that makes him
Speaker 1: say wow every day.
Speaker 3: The cheesecake factory.
Speaker 2: Just kidding, he takes.
Speaker 1: He takes them to his family's Australia zoo. We see
Speaker 1: giraffes and zebras and Robert, who's holding a snake. The
Speaker 1: contestants are wowed while feeding a porcupine and petting a
Speaker 1: rhino cuddling with a koala. Wow, do you want to
Speaker 1: cuddle with a koala?
Speaker 2: I always have wanted.
Speaker 1: I know I've never been to Australia. Should we take
Speaker 1: to a family trip together? Because for the finale, great idea.
Speaker 1: You start the season at the finale, So that's a
Speaker 1: bad idea. The premiere of the next Dancing with a
Speaker 1: great idea. Oh I love it. Let's plan that now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we said the same thing just now, but.
Speaker 3: I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: The premiere of Stepping on Toes with the Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars. The next pro when that premieeres, we go
Speaker 1: and we can interview Robert to promote the season Zoo
Speaker 1: at his Zoo manifestation. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: see Robert as a TV star, the champion of Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars, but his entire life has been dedicated
Speaker 1: to preserving wildlife and taking care of animals. And it's
Speaker 1: so inspiring and it's so sweet to see him in
Speaker 1: his element, even though he is trying to make comparisons
Speaker 1: to the cuddly softness of a koala with the cuddly
Speaker 1: softness of dancing TV.
Speaker 3: It is great to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert's the rock Star is an incredible family. He's
Speaker 2: such a talent. Yes, I love that he shared a
Speaker 2: bit of himself. Yeah, it is completely random to have
Speaker 2: animals with dance moves, but I like.
Speaker 3: It was cute.
Speaker 1: They found ways the cuddly softness of this koala don't
Speaker 1: lose that softness in the dance totally. So the dancers
Speaker 1: are sent back to the ballroom. Now reinvigorated with some
Speaker 1: wow and ready to rehearse. Danielliswings by to help and
Speaker 1: they chat a little about the process. Selena says this
Speaker 1: is her wheelhouse. She feels like she has a leg
Speaker 1: up on the other dancers, so she is walking into
Speaker 1: this one with some of that confidence that Shirley was
Speaker 1: talking about. They're going to be dancing as couples, and
Speaker 1: this time the guys will select their partners, which is
Speaker 1: a flip from last week. And reminder, if more than
Speaker 1: one guy chooses the same girl, the girl will pick
Speaker 1: between the two, and then the guy must re select.
Speaker 2: That was so confusing. He just said, I was like
Speaker 2: trying to follow if the guy chooses the two girls.
Speaker 1: The girls went to the guy, and then when he
Speaker 1: had two women on his arm, he had to choose
Speaker 1: which of them, So now it's the reverse.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely getting eliminated this episode too much thinking I'm
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to dance, Like this.
Speaker 3: Part doesn't seem that hard. Just go to a person.
Speaker 3: If two of you were with one person, someone has
Speaker 3: to choose totally.
Speaker 2: I mean I'd be chosen every time regardless.
Speaker 3: And then you'd have the hard decision.
Speaker 1: You'd have all three ladies, yeah on your arm, then
Speaker 1: you'd have to choose one.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 1: And so Alan stands with Adele, Aj and Eric stand
Speaker 1: with Selena, and no one picks Nina. And I felt
Speaker 1: like Nina was like, I'm not used to this. I
Speaker 1: am not used to this. And then, because now Selena
Speaker 1: has to choose, she picks Eric over Aj, and she immediately.
Speaker 2: This is this episode should be called karmos.
Speaker 3: She bursts into tears.
Speaker 2: I know that was that was I mean, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: tough for her.
Speaker 3: I guess it was, Yeah, very very difficult for her
Speaker 3: to make that well.
Speaker 2: At this point, also, they're spending more time in the house.
Speaker 2: I think they're now building like they're closer, they're fighting,
Speaker 2: they're making up, they're forgiving each other. Maybe they're yeah
Speaker 2: moving on and yeah they're closer friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So all right, AJ is not chosen. Selena becomes
Speaker 1: very emotional. She apologizes to Aj, who then settles with Nina,
Speaker 1: who remember has never done contemporary before, and Aj admits
Speaker 1: it is not within his comfort zone either, and then
Speaker 1: we jump right into couples rehearsals and there are two
Speaker 1: days remaining. Alan takes charge with a spinning somewhat WWE
Speaker 1: adjacent wow moment, which she h Allen Copter.
Speaker 2: It's good well.
Speaker 1: Selena and dark Horse Eric seem to be working well
Speaker 1: together with lifts and tricks, Selena's specialty. AJ and Nina
Speaker 1: have actually implemented some inspiration from Robert's Zoo I was.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we thought they weren't going to really
Speaker 1: be inspired, we were wrong because they mentioned kangaroo jumps,
Speaker 1: python squeezes, koala cuddles, and Nina mentions her past musical
Speaker 1: theater experience left field I know, and boy did it
Speaker 1: really come in handy for her totally.
Speaker 2: I think she was making sounds yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think the music well, yeah, like gasping totally.
Speaker 1: We Also another thing you don't see in the show
Speaker 1: is that they are hearing there, that they know what
Speaker 1: their music is.
Speaker 3: What their music like, the songs they're dancing to.
Speaker 2: I know, we only hear for the first time when
Speaker 2: we don't hear that the rehearsal space exactly. But on
Speaker 2: the dancing when the stars you also don't hear, but
Speaker 2: we talk about it.
Speaker 3: We talk about it. We say that I'm dancing.
Speaker 2: To this and yeah, I understand the importance of that.
Speaker 2: I hate when they make us say that.
Speaker 3: And now you realize, right, because.
Speaker 2: Like as an is, we want clarity, we want to
Speaker 2: know what they're dancing to. Yes, this week we're doing
Speaker 2: the samba ky Mi Naj's Hero.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: By the way, some of it, Like when I'm watching
Speaker 1: them in rehearsal, it is very cool. Then when it
Speaker 1: when it's time for the performance and I see them
Speaker 1: do the move and you know, she gasps and.
Speaker 3: It goes along with the lyric, and I wise, oh,
Speaker 3: that's why they were doing that earlier in rehearsal. So
Speaker 3: it is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: But also I think if we knew that ahead of time,
Speaker 1: we'd see it rehearsal be like, well, that looks good.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I missed it every rehearsal, but I saw
Speaker 2: it to the performance and I wish she didn't gasp.
Speaker 3: No, he is too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you like contemporary?
Speaker 2: I love contemporary? Do you? Yeah? Do you know what
Speaker 2: I don't like? What bad contemporary? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So would you say musical theater?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe a musical maybe.
Speaker 1: Well that's what she That's what she was saying was
Speaker 1: her musical theater background is kind of the very like.
Speaker 2: So she sang falsetto and the why is it so breathy?
Speaker 2: What does that have? Listen? I think she's an amazing
Speaker 2: Latin dancer. She's not a good contemporary dancer, and neither
Speaker 2: is AJ. And that's okay, and neither am I to
Speaker 2: be fair, you know, it's hard. So that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: is like, that's a tough episode for them, regardless of
Speaker 2: whether they accomplish the goal or not of the wow moment.
Speaker 2: To me, anything that isn't quality is inevitably not going
Speaker 2: to be wow enough. You could fake it, you could
Speaker 2: do something, you could throw something, you could try your best.
Speaker 2: And I think they did, Sure everybody did, but they did.
Speaker 2: I'm not taking away their effort. I'm just saying it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying something that they also know. This is
Speaker 2: not their style, and there are masters of that style
Speaker 2: for a reason. When you see them the same way,
Speaker 2: AJ gets to shine in his style, and you could
Speaker 2: really see the difference.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, back at the house that night, the contestants
Speaker 1: are very tired and physically drained. I could see on
Speaker 1: all of them, and I who's like, I've been there.
Speaker 1: I know when that part of the season hit me,
Speaker 1: where at the end of the night.
Speaker 3: You're just like.
Speaker 1: Adele breaks down to Alan about the stress, and he
Speaker 1: reminds her to know her worth, that she is born
Speaker 1: for this. And now it is the last couple's rehearsal
Speaker 1: Day two. Daniella returns and checks out Adele and Alan. First,
Speaker 1: she suggests they refine their tricks a little more and
Speaker 1: avoid packing too much in. Daniella moves on Danina and
Speaker 1: aj and is impressed with their Koala moment. She does
Speaker 1: recommend really breaking out of their shell and not thinking
Speaker 1: about perfection. Daniella then watches Selena and Eric, who do
Speaker 1: not have their own wow moment yet, and they are
Speaker 1: clashing a little about what they want to do. Adele
Speaker 1: is also developing intense blisters on her feet. Ooh, she
Speaker 1: has never danced barefoot before. Can we talk a little
Speaker 1: about dancing barefoot? Because I hated it.
Speaker 2: I hated it too, But again, if you've if you've
Speaker 2: done contemporary all your life, that's like cake because because
Speaker 2: they just build this callous on their feet.
Speaker 3: My feet have never worked hard. There's baby feet.
Speaker 2: Well, they've worked hard in a sneaker.
Speaker 3: Correct, My sneakers work hard, not my feet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, No, there's no direct impact on the bottles.
Speaker 1: Then when I had to do my contemporaries, like, eh,
Speaker 1: there's like crumbs.
Speaker 2: In your feet, in your feet, I mean your feet whatever.
Speaker 2: My feet looked like they got spiders on them. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't want, no money needs to see that. I
Speaker 2: don't want to see that.
Speaker 3: Do you try to push off contemporary as long as
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 2: I love contemporary for the storytelling aspect of it, and I,
Speaker 2: you know, in the season, that's why this is so hard.
Speaker 2: I don't really you know, I sores help from my contemporaries,
Speaker 2: you know, like others source a lot of help for
Speaker 2: their ballrooms and their latins. I need. I need to
Speaker 2: confront the fact that now again depends on my partner.
Speaker 2: If it's an elementary routine, of course, I'm more than
Speaker 2: equipped to choreograph that and execute that at this point,
Speaker 2: not not in the beginning, but if I have a
Speaker 2: remarkable partner, remarkable talent, and we're just doing stuff on
Speaker 2: a high level in all the other styles like and
Speaker 2: it comes to contemporary, I owe it to her to
Speaker 2: give her that type of routine, and so I would
Speaker 2: go and I would work with somebody who's great on
Speaker 2: contemporary to teach me and help me help her create
Speaker 2: this piece. And then and then I would go into
Speaker 2: the room and teach her that piece. And you know,
Speaker 2: by that time, I know, but it's not that I
Speaker 2: can't execute it. It's just I don't speak that language naturally,
Speaker 2: you know, So I need to speak to and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I got to write poem, you know.
Speaker 2: So I could write the poem, but I need the words,
Speaker 2: you know, And so I would go and help, like
Speaker 2: this is what I'm thinking, this is the creative we
Speaker 2: want to tell this story. I kind of like, these
Speaker 2: are some of the things that I'm really like, I
Speaker 2: know I could do that are effective. How do we
Speaker 2: mix that up? Switch that up? You know? But I
Speaker 2: do my work to make sure that when I do
Speaker 2: come into the room, that that piece of work is
Speaker 2: worth yes, the talent in front of me and her
Speaker 2: journey on the show. So I try to really do
Speaker 2: my work for my shortcomings, you know, and make sure
Speaker 2: that my shortcomings are not reflected on my partner or
Speaker 2: her journey on the show. So yeah, what was the
Speaker 2: question again?
Speaker 1: I said, I'm dancing with the stars. Do you try
Speaker 1: to put off contemporary as long as possible?
Speaker 2: Yah? Yeah, yeah, No, I try to squeeze it somewhere
Speaker 2: in the middle where it's just like not that long
Speaker 2: over routine yet but still a very important week where again,
Speaker 2: contemporary does lend itself to more of a human exchange
Speaker 2: and a human like storytelling, right, So like I love
Speaker 2: those type of contemporaries too, Again, not for the tricks
Speaker 2: and the lifts of contemporary, but for the fact that
Speaker 2: I get to be a human touching, you know, connecting
Speaker 2: and really tell a story that I don't have to
Speaker 2: be like an intense Latin dancer for which again I
Speaker 2: love that energy too, but I'm not that energy all
Speaker 2: the time, so it allows for a softer feeling, a
Speaker 2: more delicate tone, you know. I mean again, contemporary is
Speaker 2: such a wide range, but that's again, that's that's my
Speaker 2: kind of approach to it.
Speaker 1: Aj who has been having issues opening up emotionally in dance,
Speaker 1: begins to feel the pressure and he leaves the room.
Speaker 1: He breaks down outside it and Nina comforts him. He
Speaker 1: has sacrificed so much to be there. He even moved
Speaker 1: his wedding, so he does not want to go home.
Speaker 2: But did he move his bachelor party?
Speaker 3: That's I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, I think I think.
Speaker 3: He still had the bachelor definitely while he was on
Speaker 3: the show. Maybe you're starting starting rumors.
Speaker 1: And now just like that, it's show night. We are
Speaker 1: back on the dance floor and Robert reminds them of
Speaker 1: the assignment. Our judges are back now with a guest judge, Daniella,
Speaker 1: and though they are dancing as couples, they will be
Speaker 1: judged individually with one dancer going home.
Speaker 3: Why is that fair?
Speaker 1: This week only one person's going home.
Speaker 2: We're invested now, so that's I.
Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, and I get it.
Speaker 1: It's such good TV to have double elimination, but my
Speaker 1: heart breaks for the couple last week.
Speaker 3: Who knew.
Speaker 1: Whichever one of you couples doesn't shine, you're both out.
Speaker 1: Even though this ultimately is a you know one person
Speaker 1: is going to win, and now in this case it's
Speaker 1: a couple, but it could be could be one person
Speaker 1: from two different couples who's in the bottom two.
Speaker 3: Doesn't have to be a couple.
Speaker 2: That's the part that I don't like. You feel like
Speaker 2: the bottom should be made up of all the contestants.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, not just the bottom.
Speaker 3: So last week instead of it, instead of it being
Speaker 3: a bottom couple.
Speaker 2: Okay, assess, assess the competition still regardless of these challenges.
Speaker 2: These challenges are really important, but we should be assessing
Speaker 2: them just in the totality of the talent in front
Speaker 2: of you, whereas it then narrows it down to just
Speaker 2: the two person unit.
Speaker 3: Very good point.
Speaker 1: Had they last week still done a double elimination but
Speaker 1: it wasn't based on per couple, I would have been
Speaker 1: I would have been fine with it. You're right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's my issue is that Why does it have
Speaker 1: to be based on couple? Okay, so this week, yes,
Speaker 1: and not this week? So Aj and Nina are up first.
Speaker 1: They danced to Human by Christina Perry and their wow moment,
Speaker 1: the rotating Kowala cuddle is kind of cool looking.
Speaker 2: It's very cool looking, so awesome, so beautiful song. He
Speaker 2: did a great job. Again, I have so much I
Speaker 2: give them so much props. I they did not rub
Speaker 2: me the right way on a human level, but they
Speaker 2: are working so hard and I did. He he won
Speaker 2: me over with the emotional thing he did not from
Speaker 2: the dance point, but he had this like little breakdown.
Speaker 2: He covered his eyes for too long, so I wasn't
Speaker 2: sure if he's really crying.
Speaker 1: Or just scratching his eyes for the fact, but he
Speaker 1: did you the rules to crying.
Speaker 2: Look, I just want to celebrate the fact that these
Speaker 2: two people are not contemporary dancers at all, regardless of
Speaker 2: her musical theater background. Yep. Uh. And they put together
Speaker 2: a pretty good piece.
Speaker 3: Yes, they really did.
Speaker 2: To my eyes know of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But to the to the to the viewer on Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars, that's a good contemporary they would be like, wow,
Speaker 2: that's a great dance. It had great wow moments. I
Speaker 2: really felt you had it, had the things.
Speaker 3: Right, so checked all the box They.
Speaker 2: Checked all the boxes. They really did. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say they didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to gloss over the fact that you
Speaker 1: said Aj won you over with his with his tears.
Speaker 2: He did. He did only because I understand the stress
Speaker 2: that he was under right in that moment. Just that
Speaker 2: because knowing that they really only had each other to
Speaker 2: choreograph in the room, that's a lot to ask from them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like kind of what we were talking
Speaker 2: about with Tristan when he had to choreograph a tango
Speaker 2: or yeah, or like a really competitive of Latin dance.
Speaker 2: That's a lot to ask from him. This is a
Speaker 2: lot to ask from Aj and Nina, and so I
Speaker 2: appreciate that they remember we talked about creatives and craftsmen,
Speaker 2: you know. They they crafted this routine together based on
Speaker 2: his experience. They're you know, working together passion, and then
Speaker 2: they performed it as as best as they could. And
Speaker 2: they really did throw in, like I said, to a
Speaker 2: non knowing eye, something that was really dramatic, really good.
Speaker 2: It was really good. They did check all the boxes.
Speaker 2: This would get eight or nines on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: Okay, we also get VAL's knee walks in there and
Speaker 1: Daniella's airwalk. Daniella dug itt Mark was impressed, especially with
Speaker 1: a trustfall move.
Speaker 2: They did and GT's everywhere just just live in life
Speaker 2: right now. Yes, knee walks, do that more?
Speaker 3: Do get more patients?
Speaker 1: Surely said she may even steal the Koala cuddle. AJ
Speaker 1: and Nina had a big showing. Next up is Alan
Speaker 1: and Adele and they perform to Elenium and Teddy Swims
Speaker 1: all that really matters. We get Danielle's airwalk and that
Speaker 1: wwe move we saw earlier the Alan copter and they
Speaker 1: did a cool caveman walk together on each other's feet.
Speaker 3: What did you think of that move?
Speaker 2: It is a move that's been done before.
Speaker 3: Okay in dance, in dance because I don't with my sons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun, it's so great. Yeah, not like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know about the interpretation.
Speaker 3: I know the man we don't do that now, No,
Speaker 3: I ssh, you try it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a cool move. Yeah, yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: I thought.
Speaker 3: That's what you thought.
Speaker 2: Again one more time. This is not their forte Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they did a good piecing and routine together, so
Speaker 2: again checked off the boxes. I would say slight edge
Speaker 2: over Ag and Nina only because just certain moments that
Speaker 2: were better quality, just different things. That Alan copter actually
Speaker 2: is a very effective, very strong move that was cool.
Speaker 1: It was that moment that they pointed out, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad they pointed it out where where there was a
Speaker 1: moment where he was handsless basically and she was just
Speaker 1: kind of free moving without that little slow down.
Speaker 3: You don't necessarily know that. It just looks like he
Speaker 3: was spinning and then he brings her down into his arms.
Speaker 3: But there is a moment where oh, it's cool.
Speaker 2: Because you do you build momentum, then you stop, but
Speaker 2: she keeps going and that's so cool.
Speaker 3: I do like that.
Speaker 1: Mark loved the Allan Copter and thought they were great together.
Speaker 1: He's blown away that that was Adele's first ever contemporary
Speaker 1: and he calls her a diamond and surely thinks. Adele
Speaker 1: is beyond a diamond and one of the best female
Speaker 1: dancers she has ever seen in sixty countries of Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars or strictly come dancing. Whoa from Shirley Ballast.
Speaker 1: That is quite a compliment.
Speaker 2: She is phenomenal. She is phenomenal. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's the routine that showcased that, but totally I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't take that away.
Speaker 1: But knowing it's her first, that's crazy what she said
Speaker 1: she'd never done one total.
Speaker 2: I believe that. Yeah, listen again, there there's some skills
Speaker 2: that are transferable, but no, but she's such a master
Speaker 2: at dance in this other language that she can still
Speaker 2: storytell and make you know. It's like when you have
Speaker 2: to speak gibberish. You can't, but you're an excellent actor,
Speaker 2: like you can make that gibberish Like, oh yeah, you'll
Speaker 2: create a scene, is what I'm saying. Right, you just
Speaker 2: know how to perform because you're just excellent. So that
Speaker 2: that's where she's at, Like I think she's just showcasing
Speaker 2: that she's an amazing performer, amazing dancer, just on a
Speaker 2: different level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eric and Selena are last. We get our got
Speaker 1: to Be product placement as he gets his hair ready
Speaker 1: for the big moment.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: Remember everyone be bold, be you with got to be glue.
Speaker 2: Glue.
Speaker 1: They danced too, You Stole the show by Sienna Spiro.
Speaker 1: They both do their knee walks in this one. Val
Speaker 1: What did you think of this dance?
Speaker 2: I mean, the best dance of the show for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just again, the choice is the quality, the seamlessness. She
Speaker 2: obviously was the glue of Why. Here's the thing we're
Speaker 2: doing most of the support work. That's where the real
Speaker 2: like texture and quality exposes itself. Is like in the
Speaker 2: points of the feet. You know, once you're off that heel,
Speaker 2: you're speaking of caveman wall, you know you don't have
Speaker 2: that same quality I mean, these are tools. These are
Speaker 2: not just like, oh, her feet are great. No, this
Speaker 2: is a tool that you develop, and the quality of
Speaker 2: how you move that tool and work that tool depends
Speaker 2: on what you're training for, you know. So these are
Speaker 2: ballroom dancers that have really no quality outside of their heels.
Speaker 2: You take them away from those tools. It's like asking
Speaker 2: an ice skater to all of a sudden be a
Speaker 2: I don't know a sprinter like, okay, cool, I'll run
Speaker 2: as fast as I can, but I have no structural advantage.
Speaker 2: Just because I'm a world superstar in ice skating doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that I'm going to be a great let's say, skier.
Speaker 2: It's a completely different part of your body, different ask.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of like Selena has contemporary background. That's
Speaker 2: the thing. It's like, I'm rocking with you on a
Speaker 2: different a different in a different space from what I'm
Speaker 2: comfortable with. And so, okay cool, and she's looking pretty good, yes,
Speaker 2: but you put her in her space. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's taking candy from a baby. It's like not even clothes.
Speaker 2: And she showcased that, and she but then Eric in
Speaker 2: return because he had a Selena and because he's also
Speaker 2: he's him, He's him totally. I'm him, He's him. He
Speaker 2: was just perfect with her back to back, two strongest
Speaker 2: dances of the season besides Alan and Adele, these two,
Speaker 2: and that's why they're choosing each other, because they obviously
Speaker 2: work really well together and they have chemistry. And there
Speaker 2: right now, to me, there that was the best dance
Speaker 2: of the night by far, And that's a wow moment
Speaker 2: to me. To me, the quality, the seamlessness, the transitions,
Speaker 2: the the fact that I got lost, you know, to me,
Speaker 2: a wow moment is also not waiting for the next
Speaker 2: acro move, you know, it's like to get lost in
Speaker 2: this moment in time between two people that are.
Speaker 3: Like sounds like what Eric was saying that sometimes the silence,
Speaker 3: sometimes the stillness, can be the whe totally.
Speaker 2: That's why I said, you know, I'm not the one
Speaker 2: to talk about this episode because I completely disagree with
Speaker 2: the result. I completely disagree with, yeah, the notion that
Speaker 2: this is what dances about. But I understand the assignment
Speaker 2: and I understand the importance of that in regards to
Speaker 2: dancing with the stars and being effective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm dancing with the stars right well, Sureley admits
Speaker 1: she's conflicted. She asks what the wow move was and
Speaker 1: Selena says, sometimes the wow is in the silence, just
Speaker 1: like you said.
Speaker 3: But Surely isn't so sure.
Speaker 1: She bickers a little with Mark, which is always fun
Speaker 1: for us to watch what a beautiful, true look into
Speaker 1: what his life was like having her as well his
Speaker 1: whole life and to see that dynamic play out is
Speaker 1: just very special because you know it's real.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she was so hard on the growing up.
Speaker 1: Surely thinks Eric needed to let himself go more. She
Speaker 1: expected more from Selena. It was good quality, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't great. Mark thought everything was quality dancing, but didn't
Speaker 1: think there was a wow moment. Daniella thought they looked
Speaker 1: like two pros out there, but again didn't think they
Speaker 1: completed the Wow challenge today and with our dances done,
Speaker 1: it is time for the results. One dancer will be
Speaker 1: leaving the show, and Mark says this was their most
Speaker 1: difficult decision yet. Shirley asks Selena and Eric whose idea
Speaker 1: it was to not have a larger than life wow
Speaker 1: moment and Eric, it really kind of bothered me here
Speaker 1: because at least the way it was edited, and I
Speaker 1: recognized that there were a lot of moments that are
Speaker 1: on the cutting room floor that we don't see. But
Speaker 1: there were many moments in this episode where Selena said,
Speaker 1: we don't have it. We don't have a wow moment.
Speaker 1: I feel like it needs to be bigger. I feel
Speaker 1: like it needs to be bolder. I feel like we
Speaker 1: need to do something really ah, And I'm feeling extra
Speaker 1: pressure because I am the contemporary dancer here.
Speaker 3: And every time he would.
Speaker 1: Say I think we've got it, the silence is the wow,
Speaker 1: We've got it, We've got it.
Speaker 3: Many times they.
Speaker 1: Had this discussion and then surely asks point blank between
Speaker 1: the two of you, which one of you was more
Speaker 1: comfortable saying we've got it?
Speaker 2: And he was not him.
Speaker 1: He was not him. So Val I found a Russian
Speaker 1: phrase okay that I think fits this moment. I'd like
Speaker 1: for you to read it for me. Okay, there's two,
Speaker 1: but I think this top one is the best. M
Speaker 1: Hold on, those are two different ones.
Speaker 2: Where did you find these?
Speaker 3: Do you like either of them?
Speaker 2: Not really, I've never heard either one of them? Or
Speaker 2: did you find these in English? And translating them? Well?
Speaker 2: The second one, this one is is lies are on
Speaker 2: spider legs? And truth is on the strong ones who
Speaker 2: wrote that.
Speaker 3: Passing and that the one not spider legs.
Speaker 1: They said cockroach legs, cockroaches and cockroaches.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So Vidyovich, this is a good one, but it has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with this moment. It says, no matter
Speaker 2: how much rope you make, the end is going to come.
Speaker 1: It says, no matter how I think it was, no
Speaker 1: matter how long the ropes are, the truth is going
Speaker 1: to come and there are consequences.
Speaker 3: It's something along like yeah, okay, well that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Definitely a metaphor. That's good.
Speaker 3: Okay, you like those.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me tell you what the fact that
Speaker 1: no matter how long the rope twists, there will be
Speaker 1: an end.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Deception or wrongdoing may continue for a while, but eventually
Speaker 1: the truth comes out.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying there? Do want to others
Speaker 2: as well. It's like so playful and youthful. Say that
Speaker 2: last one again just so people understand.
Speaker 1: Yes, no matter how long the rope twists, there will
Speaker 1: be an end, meaning the deception are wrongdoing may continue
Speaker 1: for a while, but eventually the truth comes out and
Speaker 1: there are consequences.
Speaker 2: And there are consequences in English. That's the truth. She'll
Speaker 2: set you free. You know, it's just so optimistic. Go
Speaker 2: with the truth because there is life out there. No,
Speaker 2: here's like, look, we're not promising you anything and you're
Speaker 2: going to die. Yeah, pretty much, which is But.
Speaker 3: It very much bothered me that he did not.
Speaker 2: Say, well, his whole flavor is just such a gentleman
Speaker 2: and yeah, a gentleman. No, No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's why, yeah, yeah, that's why. That was a one
Speaker 2: eighty moment. I also didn't understand why that.
Speaker 1: And then she didn't speak up for herself either. Then
Speaker 1: they they he said, we very much came to that
Speaker 1: decision together.
Speaker 3: And you see her kind of who.
Speaker 1: And surely goes Is that true, yes, ma'am?
Speaker 3: And I thought if she had said to be fair.
Speaker 1: Of course, at the end of the day, I allowed,
Speaker 1: I acquiesced, and I consent to to this dance. But
Speaker 1: all week, all two days, I did feel like we
Speaker 1: were missing the wow moment, and Eric felt more comfortable
Speaker 1: in the silence being the moment. I think what would
Speaker 1: have happened was Eric would have been in the bottom
Speaker 1: two and someone else would have been in the bottom two. Now,
Speaker 1: ultimately being in the bottom two and you're not the
Speaker 1: one to go home doesn't really mean anything. No, but
Speaker 1: but she wouldn't have been on the chopping block. You
Speaker 1: don't think so, I don't think so. They were trying
Speaker 1: to decide who thought they had it. And if Eric
Speaker 1: had said I thought we had our wow moment in
Speaker 1: the silence, Sureley would have said, you know, that was
Speaker 1: a tough choice. That was the wrong week to make
Speaker 1: this decision. You're in the bottom two, and then we
Speaker 1: could have seen who else they thought was the weakest link.
Speaker 1: But because they both said it's both of us, they said,
Speaker 1: well then there's our bottom two.
Speaker 2: So then look, then all happened the right way.
Speaker 3: Well, no, who I mean, you thought this was the
Speaker 3: strongest dance of it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't think either one of them should have
Speaker 2: been on the bottom too. Yeah, but the challenge was clear.
Speaker 2: And again this is me feeling what I feel watching.
Speaker 2: Perhaps they felt something else, Yeah, right, you know, they
Speaker 2: weren't wowed like I was wowed. What did you think
Speaker 2: of the dance? You are not a professional dancer? Yeah yet,
Speaker 2: but what did you think?
Speaker 1: I did think it was missing? I thought I agreed
Speaker 1: that it was missing the moment that Daniella was there
Speaker 1: to show them how to do, and I see the
Speaker 1: importance of that for Dancing with the Stars as far
Speaker 1: as a dance, was it a moving contemporary dance that
Speaker 1: outside of the spectacle of Dancing with the Stars would
Speaker 1: have been a ten. Absolutely, But knowing how important virality
Speaker 1: is and special things and this being a challenge for
Speaker 1: this week, I thought they were the only couple lacking.
Speaker 1: It would not have put both of them in the
Speaker 1: bottom too. Honestly, I thought aj and Ninas was by
Speaker 1: far the weakest performance for me. I am also a
Speaker 1: hard sell for this week because I don't love contemporary.
Speaker 2: Canna ask you a question, yes, please? Were you wowed
Speaker 2: by the koala?
Speaker 3: I was not wowed by the did you?
Speaker 2: Were you wowed by the other wow moment that they had?
Speaker 1: I I am wowed by, Uh, yeah, I'm wowed.
Speaker 3: I'm wowed by the alan coopter because.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, right. It's like, yes, Eric should
Speaker 2: have been not apprehended whatever, Like there was an assignment,
Speaker 2: you didn't do it, Yeah, you chose to do something else,
Speaker 2: but the assignment is wow, Like to wow somebody not
Speaker 2: to do something that is unconventional yeah, and is supposed
Speaker 2: to be a wow moment, But.
Speaker 3: Is it yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, because because I think in the process that
Speaker 2: too was some of maybe Eric thinking it's like yo,
Speaker 2: I could attempt a wow moment and look like trash,
Speaker 2: or I could think about the bigger just the picture
Speaker 2: that I'm presenting, and you know what I'm saying, it's like,
Speaker 2: why introduce a flavor that isn't going to be executed?
Speaker 2: Not to say that maybe that that's the case, But
Speaker 2: like I said, they did these moments that were unique.
Speaker 2: But were they wow moments yeah? Or were they just
Speaker 2: unique placeholders for what's supposed to really take your breath away?
Speaker 2: Because for me, when when Eric touches Selena or helps
Speaker 2: move her and her quality and the way she know
Speaker 2: she you know, the texture of the way she moved,
Speaker 2: that to me was wow, like yo, I want to
Speaker 2: see that again. I don't want to see that again.
Speaker 2: So that's why the formality of a move that is
Speaker 2: abstract cool, you didn't do that. They did that for sure.
Speaker 1: I wonder too, how much of like Eric knowing, because
Speaker 1: we know that they don't get to see the others
Speaker 1: the other performances before shown because.
Speaker 2: They'll tell you something else. There are those like you know,
Speaker 2: those go to moves that have been done a hundred
Speaker 2: times and they continue to get the wow, but they
Speaker 2: shouldn't because they've been done a hundred times and they're
Speaker 2: not wow moments at all. Yeah, it just played out
Speaker 2: abstract pictures that we've already seen a hundred million times.
Speaker 2: I think that this also should be part of the
Speaker 2: equation because I think at some point potentially in that room,
Speaker 2: they were like, well, look, we have a limited amount
Speaker 2: of time. We're not going to reinvent the wheel right now,
Speaker 2: so let's lean in on something that we could really
Speaker 2: deliver so that it's a plus plus from beginning to
Speaker 2: the end.
Speaker 1: And Eric knew he was with the only female pro there,
Speaker 1: the only pro there who's a contemporary dancer. He knows
Speaker 1: another couple has never done contemporary before Aj and Nina,
Speaker 1: so he could be thinking totally in well within his
Speaker 1: rights to think us just delivering a beautiful contemporary is
Speaker 1: going to be wow when everyone else is going to
Speaker 1: be taking big swings with leaps And so I do
Speaker 1: see that, and I don't think it was the weakest
Speaker 1: dance of the night.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but but but like again, that's why I was,
Speaker 2: you know, my opinion on this episode as an asterisk
Speaker 2: to it because I see beyond the just the assignment,
Speaker 2: but totally understand the assignment. I think the other thing
Speaker 2: that we just they don't see each other's dances. I
Speaker 2: think had he seen what it would be relative to others,
Speaker 2: he would have been like, oh, forget that silence. It's easy,
Speaker 2: let's pick it up. We don't even gotta do it. Well,
Speaker 2: we just got to do it because these guys are
Speaker 2: doing it. Yes, And that's that's the part. And again
Speaker 2: I guess that is also important. Yeah, you know, sometimes
Speaker 2: you've got to do it for the fact that you
Speaker 2: just need to sprinkle that. From my own experience, I
Speaker 2: always run into trouble with that because I paced my
Speaker 2: routine with the with the flow that feels right for
Speaker 2: me right, and then I look at it and I'm like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't have the moment, it doesn't have that thing
Speaker 2: that everybody's the thing that good Steady came around. Everybody
Speaker 2: loses their mind, what is that thing? And then I
Speaker 2: force the thing into the routine, and then when I
Speaker 2: watch it back.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you didn't need that thing.
Speaker 2: They didn't need that thing at all. Right, that's where
Speaker 2: I'm coming from, got it, I get that the thing.
Speaker 3: So Shirley announces the final decision.
Speaker 1: With a heavy heart. Eric the dark Horse is sent home.
Speaker 1: Alan is visibly very upset. The cast says goodbye to Eric,
Speaker 1: all of them crying. Selena especially feels very hurt and
Speaker 1: she feels like she let him down since this was
Speaker 1: her specific style of dance. And then Robert gives his
Speaker 1: final words with everyone perfectly placed behind him having emotional
Speaker 1: breakdowns in the back.
Speaker 2: And it's a good show.
Speaker 3: It's a good show.
Speaker 2: Five left, It's a good show. It's a great show
Speaker 2: because it's so different from Dancing with the Stars. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it really is. I mean again, obviously they share a
Speaker 2: common thread, but.
Speaker 3: It's so different, it really is.
Speaker 2: And I don't really watch other shows or you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of reality shows actually outside of like documentaries
Speaker 2: or whatever. Right, But so I don't know the structure
Speaker 2: of all the shows. Obviously that's why they're so popular
Speaker 2: because they get you with these characters. But this show
Speaker 2: got me, like, I'm you know, it's not a format
Speaker 2: that I would watch outside of the dancing part, and
Speaker 2: I like it. It's fun. I mean it's again, it's
Speaker 2: it's fun TV. It's really good.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely at that point now where I'm like, who
Speaker 1: is it.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna like there's no obvious go homes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Thank you all for joining us for this episode. We
Speaker 3: will catch you next time.