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Speaker 3: you know what all y'all haters out there, y'all, but
Speaker 3: have your cape on real tight and we got somebody
Speaker 3: in here the night, the plugs and real right only
Speaker 3: d D shot. What's cracking with your dog?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 1: Why? How you doing? Man?
Speaker 3: Man? I'm chilling, man. It's an honor and a pleasure. Man.
Speaker 3: Half you wont hear?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all. Man, Uh, but you know giving me
Speaker 1: that access code? Come on? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Oh? For sure. We gotta do it, though. We gotta
Speaker 3: do it like that. Man. If we don't reach out
Speaker 3: to our young brethren man and do it big, who
Speaker 3: else will we.
Speaker 1: Gotta stick with each other. Man.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's our duty and the obligation. Man,
Speaker 3: Why you want to tell you man that album is slapping.
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Man, you know, hey, exactly, it's been exactly.
Speaker 1: It's been a while.
Speaker 2: It's been it's been a while since I came out
Speaker 2: with a new albums probably about well years in twelve
Speaker 2: years something like that. And you know, years I wasn't
Speaker 2: really tripping. I was doing movies and ship like that.
Speaker 2: I was doing everything else. You know, I'm an entrepreneur.
Speaker 2: I'll be all over the place, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know, I be tating ship, I be doing all
Speaker 2: kinds of other stuff. You know what I mean, Because
Speaker 2: I'm just that entrepreneur.
Speaker 3: So you know.
Speaker 2: But you know, rapp is my first love. Music is
Speaker 2: my first love. Thanks to people like that can over there,
Speaker 2: m C eight. You know, we got somebody that we
Speaker 2: can model after.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. When I first seen h
Speaker 1: on the scene, that dog, that guy brother.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I appreciate it, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You're still that guy. I love it. Here, you come
Speaker 1: on back in. You made the record.
Speaker 4: Yet I'm working on some ship right now.
Speaker 2: Man, you gotta do it, bro, you got to boy you.
Speaker 2: He was too hard out there, man, he was hard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna get back under. We're gonna
Speaker 5: get back to the microphone. You feel me, you know,
Speaker 5: let him know what's happening.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: Definitely one of my idols. And I guarantee you what
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: Forty idols too, man, I mean like we we we
Speaker 2: smiled your ship on a regular basis.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 5: Look, Yeah, I talked, I talked to you. I talked
Speaker 5: to you. I talked to forty all the time.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: He hits me, he hits me up in my d
Speaker 5: M all the time. So we chopped it up. I
Speaker 5: appreciate it too, man. It's good looking, it's all good.
Speaker 5: It's all good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Let me ask you, d shop man, do you
Speaker 3: feel that the stream when theyor messed up the game
Speaker 3: a little bit?
Speaker 1: Yes and no.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: The reason why I say yes and no is because
Speaker 2: first of all, we we're not getting paid. Probably we
Speaker 2: should should be getting paid, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Because like you know, you gotta have all these certain
Speaker 2: amount of streams to make some money. You gotta have
Speaker 2: a whole lot to see some bread. And to me,
Speaker 2: I think that you know, they win en off the
Speaker 2: subscribers who buying into their subscriptions whatever, and and they
Speaker 2: making more money than the artists down there.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, we should getting We should
Speaker 1: be getting more.
Speaker 2: But then again, for those people that be on the
Speaker 2: radio and be hating on niggas like us underground niggas
Speaker 2: and ship it, it give us still another platform to
Speaker 2: be able to people can hear our music, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, like or stuff like that, man, And
Speaker 2: it's still it's keeping our name out there. So we
Speaker 2: just gotta find other ways and other avenues to make bread.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The concerts give our own shows. Our branding.
Speaker 2: You know, whatever brand we got, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: whatever we strand we got, whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: Clothing line we got, you know what I mean, we
Speaker 1: just got.
Speaker 2: We gotta work everything else that surrounds uh surrounds are
Speaker 2: our brand, our brand. And I think even though I
Speaker 2: even though I did not get a website for this album,
Speaker 2: but I'm getting ready to get one done this week
Speaker 2: because now I'm starting to see it's going back to
Speaker 2: the beginning of websites, Like Okay, your Instagram people. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's see, you got one hundred thousand followers. All you
Speaker 2: gotta do is direct them to your website where all
Speaker 2: everything you got, all your old CDs, all that should
Speaker 2: be for sale physically, all that she should be. We
Speaker 2: been assigned autogress with all that, all that stuff man,
Speaker 2: and clothing or whatever.
Speaker 1: Everything you got.
Speaker 2: Your booking you can you can you can uh put
Speaker 2: your bookings for sale, like you know, hey, book this show,
Speaker 2: get the next one for free from me.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Nine been killing the game for years, he's been he's
Speaker 2: been killing it with strange music.
Speaker 1: They've been killing it.
Speaker 2: Bro. They we were slow slow.
Speaker 3: Over two hundred shows a year.
Speaker 1: Bro, man, we're slow.
Speaker 3: And in the year, so he do two hundred shows,
Speaker 3: bro and.
Speaker 2: That cad he barely get a little radio play every
Speaker 2: down there, you know what I mean. So you know,
Speaker 2: you know, we gotta we gotta, we gotta like it's
Speaker 2: like kind of like gang banging.
Speaker 1: You gotta fuck with who fuck with you? And you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, You gotta exactly who your
Speaker 1: folks is.
Speaker 2: You gotta fuck with who your folks is in the
Speaker 2: in the Instagram and Facebook is showing you who your
Speaker 2: folks is they right there with you?
Speaker 1: If they're organic?
Speaker 4: Right, if they if they not paid for? If they organic?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they organic. So I choose for shooting shoes
Speaker 2: and I paid for mine. You know, I got eighty
Speaker 2: thousand followers. When I came back in, I had about thirty,
Speaker 2: so I wasn't really fooling with the Instagram like that.
Speaker 2: So I can see that, I can see the growth.
Speaker 2: I can see that they they they're welcomed.
Speaker 1: Me back in. You know, they let me back in
Speaker 1: and they are you know, it's organic.
Speaker 2: And I'm interacting back and forth with everybody pop on
Speaker 2: my DM.
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, thank you for the comment. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know, let's like sign your checkout Like here, man,
Speaker 2: y'all fuck with you, you fuck with me, You wipe
Speaker 2: my feet, I wipe your feet.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure, Yeah for sure, for sure. You know man,
Speaker 3: you you've got your own stuff going, man, but you're
Speaker 3: part of a legendary Man. What I feel like is
Speaker 3: like the Bay Area, not just the Baby, but California's
Speaker 3: you know, franchise group.
Speaker 2: I made a lot of uh dairy moves. I made
Speaker 2: a lot of took a lot of sacrifices even help
Speaker 2: being a part of this whole babe, uh independent game,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You know, at the beginning,
Speaker 2: it was you know, it was me and my uncle,
Speaker 2: you know, Saint Charles, you know what I mean. And uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I have to talk him into. You know,
Speaker 2: he was a preacher. He still is a preacher, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, he's a minister. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, I have to talk him in and let
Speaker 2: him know, Hey, man, he made a record in.
Speaker 3: The seventies, you know what I mean, already figured out.
Speaker 2: He had that part of the game already figured out.
Speaker 2: And he and he used to you know that used
Speaker 2: to have a sign company. So he made our first
Speaker 2: album copy, you know what I mean. He didn't say Charles,
Speaker 2: because he he had that experience of making signs, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and stuff like that. So you know,
Speaker 2: But anyway, the main thing is that, you know, one
Speaker 2: day he came over with my house. You know, I
Speaker 2: was about seventeen, and I mean they're being hard headed.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're doing some things I ain't got no
Speaker 2: business doing as far as just you know, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: On the street dude, you know what I mean exactly,
Speaker 2: And uncle, as he should, he got on my head
Speaker 2: as he should. He got on my head and he
Speaker 2: was like, bro, man, you can't keep doing this. Bro,
Speaker 2: You're gonna get You're gonna get your toes knocked off
Speaker 2: and and you know, and I'm like, man, you know,
Speaker 2: check this out. And ain't nobody in my family even
Speaker 2: had no money?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna help us with the record. Were
Speaker 1: trying to make the record. You're gonna help us, you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You're like, if you keep doing this, you're going to jail.
Speaker 2: I'm like, check this out. Man, you ain't you a preacher?
Speaker 4: He said?
Speaker 1: Yep, I said, ain't.
Speaker 2: Ain't you preachers supposed to help people like me who
Speaker 2: out here acting the fool And he ain't doing right.
Speaker 3: He paused.
Speaker 1: He Paul's real quick right there. He passed.
Speaker 2: He just, oh, let me think about this one. He
Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, take a lot of records
Speaker 2: to make an album, you know what I'm saying. And uh,
Speaker 2: I said, it's not the money. I went in the
Speaker 2: room and grab me a for bad full of bread.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I just I just sold.
Speaker 1: I sold one of my mustangs. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right as far you know, you know what I'm talking
Speaker 2: about exactly, you know what I mean. And uh, I
Speaker 2: pulled out a bag of money, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I was like, like, I got bread. We got bread.
Speaker 2: And he was like, all right, I'll tell you what, man,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go home and see if I can give
Speaker 2: my wife blessing, you know what I mean, the blessing
Speaker 2: to you know, see if she would she down for
Speaker 2: if he come in and start helping us, Because.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you something about them. Wif they get
Speaker 3: nervous when you see you start messing with that music again,
Speaker 3: because they feel like, oh man, we go, you're about
Speaker 3: to be gone all the time. It's about to be
Speaker 3: all kind of shenanigans again. They don't want that sometime.
Speaker 2: The thing about it, man, is she but she could
Speaker 2: have shut it down, bro, She's like, oh no, you
Speaker 2: ain't messing with that. She could have shut it down,
Speaker 2: but she actually seen something. She gave him the blessing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: He came back a week later knocking on my dough.
Speaker 2: Let's go get the business license, let's get let's.
Speaker 1: Get going going, and and my uncle.
Speaker 2: Ended up being you know, he either have been a
Speaker 2: very very smart genius who who got in there and
Speaker 2: learned the distribution game to the highest degree. When made
Speaker 2: it was more like it made the yellow brick roll
Speaker 2: for everybody else to be able to come to him
Speaker 2: and say, okay, God, get your help and he'll be
Speaker 2: able to get you some money up front. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you come in, he get you
Speaker 2: pre orders. You got a pre order fifty thousand units,
Speaker 2: you got you gotta check in your pocket for like
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand. You know what I meant,
Speaker 2: your record, go ill appoint your record.
Speaker 1: We don't need a major company at that point. Who
Speaker 1: was getting pre orders, you know what I mean? Who
Speaker 1: was getting pre orders and co D you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: We sow.
Speaker 1: We sew the wholesale though, you know, but we was.
Speaker 2: Getting that that money up front where we could be
Speaker 2: able to keep moving.
Speaker 1: He was able to move together, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Who was wiggling? So everybody came over and it came over.
Speaker 2: And uh and dealt with my uncle, you know, Master
Speaker 2: P you know J T, Bigger Fiery, all the cast
Speaker 2: they all came, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And uh and I like to say that, you know,
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for a D shot, what would have happened?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's you stir up as.
Speaker 5: You know, you put the wheels in motion because you know,
Speaker 5: you want to try to flip that brig because niggas
Speaker 5: know you was in that street game, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. And people get nervous when they see they
Speaker 5: you know, they people in the street.
Speaker 4: Game knowing that.
Speaker 5: You know, you try to be cautious with everything you work,
Speaker 5: but them streets are still treacherous. But then you know
Speaker 5: you had to you had you had another game plan,
Speaker 5: like what ship, nigga, If you want me to get
Speaker 5: out the streets, then you're gonna have to help us
Speaker 5: put this record ship together. Because that was just like
Speaker 5: that was just like the D game, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Taking that product, flipping it, trying to serve
Speaker 5: it to motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Then you're running in and out of states trying to
Speaker 5: serve that product too, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 5: that that was a good way to flip it, especially
Speaker 5: because we we already had experience a little bit, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying with.
Speaker 4: The street game.
Speaker 5: So now it's a little bit, you know, same thing
Speaker 5: with flipping them records a little bit.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing, same principal. Man, You go get
Speaker 2: your store. I don't care what kind of store you got.
Speaker 2: You got a store selling the flowers.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: All you're doing is, you know, you you you're buying
Speaker 2: flowers at a low price and you sell them resale.
Speaker 1: You're buying it and sell it feel high, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Making some money.
Speaker 3: Now, did you imagine, you know, when you got with
Speaker 3: your uncle, man, that it would be like this man,
Speaker 3: y'all got a whole conglomerate man, what it was?
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something too.
Speaker 2: At the same time, you know, I end up going
Speaker 2: away anyway, I ended up doing two years, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, and my uncle still out there making
Speaker 2: it happen him and my mother. My mother was helping
Speaker 2: him with just you know, the distribution company, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, and we had a record out forty of
Speaker 2: them kept going.
Speaker 1: And then the thing about.
Speaker 2: It is when I went away and I want to
Speaker 2: the school of hard knocks, I was in that bad
Speaker 2: boy studying. Like really, I was hitting the books. Uncle,
Speaker 2: send me a letter every week, and like, man, hit
Speaker 2: them books, bro. Knowledge is power, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So I started hitting them books hell hard.
Speaker 1: Right when I got out.
Speaker 2: I was ready, I'm talking about I was ready, bro.
Speaker 2: I mean I missed a few steps. I should have
Speaker 2: been a billionaire by now. I missed a few steps
Speaker 2: because of my youth. But but the knowledge was there,
Speaker 2: the moves was there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I got out, I put it on. I put the path.
Speaker 2: I put it on steroids when I got out, because
Speaker 2: you know, I was I was already a sharp mode.
Speaker 2: I was already watching everything, looking around. Because when you
Speaker 2: was at where I was, that you gotta keep. You
Speaker 2: gotta stay up observative, you gotta like and it sharpens
Speaker 2: you up in a certain way because you pay attention
Speaker 2: to the details. See, in business, you gotta pay attention
Speaker 2: to the details. And in the in the pen, you
Speaker 2: gotta pay attention to the details.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You don't get dumb, ship, So you use that same
Speaker 2: third eye and you you and you take that book knowledge.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Always always tell people I read book, think and grow
Speaker 2: rich to me. That helped to me, that book helped
Speaker 2: really expand my horizons.
Speaker 1: Man, It's like it introduced new new game to me.
Speaker 2: And you know, the dude was spiritual, and the dude
Speaker 2: was making moves, and the dude was visualizing.
Speaker 1: The dude was writing down his goals. You know, what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do in ten years?
Speaker 2: You know, before you go to bed, you look at
Speaker 2: your goals and you read them. You imagine you and
Speaker 2: that Mercedes Bens. You imagine you and that in that uh,
Speaker 2: in that mansion.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And the thing about it is every last one of
Speaker 2: them goals I wrote down and I was visualizing on
Speaker 2: when I was in there. I woke up one morning
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, I end up having everything that
Speaker 2: I put down on my ship.
Speaker 1: I believe it.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 2: You start crying because because it was like It's like, basically,
Speaker 2: what you did was you told your space suit, which
Speaker 2: is your body right, your ears, your nose, your eyes.
Speaker 2: When you write it down, all you're doing is reading
Speaker 2: it back to you. I'm talking about Look, you've got
Speaker 2: to innerview, you got to.
Speaker 3: Out of you.
Speaker 2: So what you did was you wrote it down and
Speaker 2: you read you put in their physical form or you
Speaker 2: read it to you, to you shot calling, Nigga, this
Speaker 2: is what we finna do.
Speaker 1: Ears nose, eyes, feet, and this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Have you ever heard of
Speaker 1: people you know that that's that's pretty ill. And they
Speaker 1: be like, I'm tired.
Speaker 2: And they, you know, they're just they be saying, I'm tired, bro.
Speaker 2: And when you getting tired, they they they mean, they
Speaker 2: telling their body. Not not the kind of tired where
Speaker 2: they just want to go to sleep rest. They really
Speaker 2: telling the eyes, ears nose that we're ready to just go.
Speaker 2: We're ready to shut.
Speaker 3: Down up the tongue speak life and death.
Speaker 1: So you gotta watch what you tell yourself.
Speaker 3: You don't watch you you you know what's crazy? Shot?
Speaker 3: I read that book too, man, and what's crazy bout it?
Speaker 3: You know? The original print of that book came out
Speaker 3: like a nineteen thirty and something like that, Bro, the
Speaker 3: first for today. Hey, that's the first book I read.
Speaker 3: And when I read that book, Shot, that was the
Speaker 3: first year I made sposted half a million dollars. I
Speaker 3: made the first money ever made in my life. Then
Speaker 3: I read another book called called ten X ten X
Speaker 3: principal by Grand Cardon told you how to think big.
Speaker 3: You know, if you around somebody ate and they telling you, man,
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna go start no podcasts, you ain't gonna
Speaker 3: be no rap. You want them people from around you. Bro.
Speaker 3: Anybody that ever told me what I couldn't do and
Speaker 3: wasn't with me in the plan I kicked into the curve, bro,
Speaker 3: if you ain't with me, because I'm gonna tell you eight.
Speaker 3: If you notice everything you talk about doing, Bro, I'm
Speaker 3: just trying to go do it because I feel like
Speaker 3: I ain't gone to stop us.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 5: If another day I have You can't have negativity around you,
Speaker 5: they always say, uh, you know you block your blessings
Speaker 5: when you have negativity around you. And uh, when you
Speaker 5: have people around you that can't see the vision you
Speaker 5: feel me or it's just sometimes people don't want to
Speaker 5: see it, you know what I'm saying. Because people can't
Speaker 5: stand to see that you might make it to that spot,
Speaker 5: is what it be.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you definitely have to get yourself around people
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 5: You know, those would be the people who pray on
Speaker 5: your downfall, you feel.
Speaker 3: Let me ask y'all both this right here. God, when
Speaker 3: you first start doing music and when y'all doing that stuff,
Speaker 3: it wasn't popular at the time as far as a
Speaker 3: potential career. Did you have people laughing at you?
Speaker 1: Uh? I can't say that there was laughing at us.
Speaker 1: I can't say that.
Speaker 3: Well, don't you have some dubtin Thomas is due?
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's a couple of catchs that was
Speaker 2: laughing at forty, Like you know, they was laughing at
Speaker 2: his rap style, like like one of somebody that worked
Speaker 2: at the distribution company. He was talking about, you know
Speaker 2: when we first started knocking knocking on the doors, talking
Speaker 2: about you know, it does sound like.
Speaker 1: What do you drink on crack? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And you know it's a few people was talking crazy,
Speaker 2: but you know you can't let that stop you man.
Speaker 1: You know it's just like them telling, you know, walk.
Speaker 2: Disney Man cartoon that he was right drawing up, man,
Speaker 2: like Nigga, you ain't.
Speaker 1: Finna do that with that? What you'll do with that?
Speaker 3: And what I'm gonna tell you all both something they
Speaker 3: laughed at. They laughed at him. When he said he
Speaker 3: would go open up a theme park for children, they
Speaker 3: laughed at him in said, you're ridiculous. Colonel Sanders went
Speaker 3: around everybody in the country eight pixture his ideal for
Speaker 3: this fried chicken, and you didn't get he was eighty
Speaker 3: years old. Dog, that's right. That say something powerful. Dog,
Speaker 3: it's like man, the power with the tongue. Man, it's like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm getting sentimental. Man. When I first came to California,
Speaker 3: brought I had fifty dollars in my pocket and somebody
Speaker 3: had stole my clothes because I came from Cleveland Howard
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight to come out here and play Long
Speaker 3: Beach City College coach Wheels Shaw Rest and people. That
Speaker 3: man changed my life. You got my little taping on
Speaker 3: house said I want to bring you right here to California.
Speaker 3: I was supposed to go to Central State but didn't
Speaker 3: have no grades. I thought I was to be working
Speaker 3: at the factory. Off my life. That man called me,
Speaker 3: and I talked to my puffs. I said, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: get out to California. We ain't got no bread man.
Speaker 3: My pups looked in the newspaper and found a ticket
Speaker 3: to Vegas for three hundred dollars. They got that. He
Speaker 3: slid the three hundred to me. Man, I got that
Speaker 3: ticket and I caught a bus. I went to go
Speaker 3: call my mama, man, and left my bag over there.
Speaker 3: Somebody stole my leggat that quick, man, and I'm here.
Speaker 3: I had another bag that was on my shoulder that
Speaker 3: had two pairs of drawers in it and some socks
Speaker 3: and my wallet. I had fifty dollars man, and I
Speaker 3: got on the bus the great I got the Greyhound
Speaker 3: Long Beach, California. I'm so green. I just go to
Speaker 3: Long Beach, California. Don't have no way to call nobody here.
Speaker 3: Three o'clock in the morning, I asked somebody, where's Long
Speaker 3: Beach City College at. I'm down off Pchch somewhere eight.
Speaker 3: You know the Greyhound bus station used to be a
Speaker 3: Long Beach. I'm down there at three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 3: green and country as hell. And so this dude said, man,
Speaker 3: you about eight miles from there. He said, walk down
Speaker 3: p h hit the traffic circle. You gonna go straight
Speaker 3: up lake Wood Boulevard.
Speaker 1: I walked, and I.
Speaker 3: Saw Long Beat City College like a mile off the distance,
Speaker 3: you know, you building up the street, and I saw
Speaker 3: the long Beat City College Science and Man, I went
Speaker 3: to set in the stairs. I saw the athletic department.
Speaker 3: I set in the stairs, an athletic department and saw
Speaker 3: the sunrise, and I cried. I said, I made it.
Speaker 3: I'm here nothing I ain't. Ain't no turning back. I'm here.
Speaker 3: I'm at this point right now. Man, My had partners
Speaker 3: back home. Man, why you going out there? Man? You
Speaker 3: going out there? Ain't nothing gonna happen for you out there. Man,
Speaker 3: That man Will shaw Man not only was my football coach,
Speaker 3: him and coach Murphy was my father figures. And really
Speaker 3: I started believing in my stuff because that was the
Speaker 3: first time I had really just some other men that
Speaker 3: we was speaking life and to me, Man, I messed
Speaker 3: around and got a scholarship. I was out of there
Speaker 3: in two years. That scholarship more for the graduated, and
Speaker 3: I graduated. The Spring could have win more places, but
Speaker 3: I got out of there. Though.
Speaker 1: You know that's that that's that power of mentorship.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, we all need somebody to
Speaker 2: help uplift us. Man, right in this world, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Even when we went through eight I
Speaker 2: mean like when we was young, all the ghetto ship
Speaker 2: that we went through everything that we rap about, all
Speaker 2: the stuff.
Speaker 1: It's all to be used to help download into the next.
Speaker 2: Person right adressa your son, you look, your cousin, or
Speaker 2: somebody on the street that just needs some need some advice,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Hey, we we can tell him. Look, man, don't go
Speaker 1: that route.
Speaker 2: Don't go that route. Bro, we already been that route.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give you a short cut. If you
Speaker 2: listen to me, man, you'd be good, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So that's what we hear for, man, that's
Speaker 2: what we're here for. Man.
Speaker 5: Sometimes niggas don't want to take advice and ship because
Speaker 5: they always think, you know, uh, you might be trying
Speaker 5: to steal the wrong and we have we've had to
Speaker 5: face that, you know, that versity sometimes, you know, we've
Speaker 5: all been through it. Like you said, have somebody to
Speaker 5: lift you up, man, or tell you, you know, maybe
Speaker 5: give you that hand and tell you what's the right
Speaker 5: move or the wrong move, you know, like your uncle
Speaker 5: did when he told you know.
Speaker 4: This the move, get out the streets. This the move.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Sometimes we be naive to the fact of seeing those
Speaker 5: you know, those signs for those better pathways in front
Speaker 5: of us, especially when you're young and you're coming from
Speaker 5: the streets and repping the hood and you're going through
Speaker 5: that transition. It's kind of hard, like I say now,
Speaker 5: because you know, we was once the seventeens and eighteens
Speaker 5: and felt like, you know, playing the plan we was
Speaker 5: doing at the time, and shit, this is working for me.
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck with the nigga saying this
Speaker 5: working for me. And then there's somebody who come along
Speaker 5: who can really reach you and be like, check this out.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, You don't need to do
Speaker 5: that shit, try this shit, Let's try this way. And
Speaker 5: you know he came from the gate, let's go get
Speaker 5: the businesslights and said, you know, he was thinking from
Speaker 5: the beginning, we about to really turn this into some
Speaker 5: real smart shit.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You know, the hustle game, we all, we all get
Speaker 5: caught up when it's the hustle game.
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 5: All the money come in and the accolades of it,
Speaker 5: but one time or another, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: that shit gonna catch us.
Speaker 3: Man. Everybody in the ghetto was prone to that. Man.
Speaker 3: I came out here and kept for a while, and
Speaker 3: I got caught up in it for a minute, to
Speaker 3: the point to where Coach Shaw told me, whatever it
Speaker 3: is that you're doing and got you distracted, you need
Speaker 3: to stop. When I messed around, he said, you can go.
Speaker 3: I had University of Miami, I had Virginia Tech, all
Speaker 3: these schools Oregon. I had to graduate in the spring.
Speaker 3: They want you there for spring balls. You come from
Speaker 3: the jay z you only got two years from They
Speaker 3: want you there in the spring to get acclimated. And
Speaker 3: he said, man, you gonna mess around and blow it.
Speaker 3: But I was trying to make money. I didn't have
Speaker 3: no money out here.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: I was eating top Rahman every eight.
Speaker 5: That's a hustle. That's the hustlers for lating young nigga.
Speaker 5: That's a hustlers postums.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you you could whip that in all
Speaker 2: kinds of ways made.
Speaker 3: We will tell you what I used to do. I
Speaker 3: used to go get some onions. What was the grocery
Speaker 3: store back then? What was the name of the grocery
Speaker 3: store back then?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Which one? I forget about it. But I used to
Speaker 3: go buy a little market. Boys market. That's it right there,
Speaker 3: market one on Anaheim, on Anaheim. I used to go
Speaker 3: down there and get me a three dollars thing of
Speaker 3: ground beef, right that three dollars thing of ground beef,
Speaker 3: last meeting, the whole week. I would eat one of them.
Speaker 3: I would get one of my rhymen noodles. Right, you know,
Speaker 3: honey from textas called the rain and noodles. He said,
Speaker 3: get it back of the rainmon noodles. Right, I get that.
Speaker 3: I chopped me. I give me a spoonful of slipping
Speaker 3: the ground beef fried up in the fill it. Then
Speaker 3: I put my thing in there. I didn't want no
Speaker 3: whole bunch of water I put I would boil it
Speaker 3: and I would put butter in it with the stuff.
Speaker 4: Noodles.
Speaker 3: The ketchup in there, because you know I ain't had
Speaker 3: no tomato place. Lit's mentioned the chicken.
Speaker 2: You get them spaghetti, you see see see when you're
Speaker 2: locked up, man, that's called a spread, man.
Speaker 1: Spread whatever you got in your locker, man, just throw
Speaker 1: it up in there. Man, we're gonna.
Speaker 5: We're putting some were putting some cornuts up in that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Melvi the cheese made.
Speaker 5: You gotta how ramen is being made, and all kinds
Speaker 5: of country flavors and ship. You can take it into
Speaker 5: some Mexican, you can leave in Japanese and Chinese, turn
Speaker 5: it into some black people ship you you can have
Speaker 5: robbed it.
Speaker 4: All types of recipes I took.
Speaker 2: We went on a vacation that was with my my
Speaker 2: daughter right and uh I heard it was her birthday
Speaker 2: and all her her friends and everybody was there. So
Speaker 2: so at the end of the trip we had a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of food left. I was like, let me
Speaker 2: show you how to hook something up, how to take straps,
Speaker 2: scraps and just make it happen. I popped and pop
Speaker 2: rooms in there.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Cut that chicken up, man, that was left over, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Pop a little can that chicken
Speaker 2: and cream. Pop that up in there too, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. It was some hot sauce and so
Speaker 2: ripping all up.
Speaker 1: They was strong.
Speaker 3: It was like, damn, did you put the little pegget
Speaker 3: in there too?
Speaker 1: I put a little packet that you gotta do that.
Speaker 3: You gotta put the little season and packet up in
Speaker 3: there in there. Man, I'm gonna tell you what I survived.
Speaker 3: I survived for two years off of that. That's why
Speaker 3: would my son be telling me they like, man, I'm hungry,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna be making them one beat fried chicken,
Speaker 3: the other one beating spaghetti.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, look, whatever, all ain't hungry.
Speaker 4: Right, cutting up nigga. We cutting up nigga.
Speaker 5: We cutting up potatoes and even French fries and ship
Speaker 5: nigga whatever you could get. And they got a pack
Speaker 5: of bake and throw that up in there. And now
Speaker 5: you got you some French fries and some bacon.
Speaker 4: Nigga.
Speaker 5: We was, we was eating all kinds of shit when
Speaker 5: you're struggling trying to figure out, when you're trying to
Speaker 5: figure out your next motherfucking step in life, when you're
Speaker 5: in that transition of the seventeens eighteen nineteen, you're trying
Speaker 5: to figure it out.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: It's like most of the time you're not really thinking
Speaker 5: about you know, right, like today a nigga eats some
Speaker 5: healthy shit or you know, get them a good meal
Speaker 5: or whatever. Back then, nigging to strive and to come up.
Speaker 5: It was like whatever, man, because your thoughts was getting
Speaker 5: out of this predicament or trying to, you know, further
Speaker 5: the situation for the better.
Speaker 1: So look, bro, to be.
Speaker 2: Honest with you, it's hard on the yess's meth transition.
Speaker 2: Making a transition from me exactly twenty two twenty five
Speaker 2: is hard.
Speaker 1: See. That's why it's important that we come back in.
Speaker 2: That's why we coming back in as Titans, setting the
Speaker 2: record strain and let these niggas know. Hey, man, it's
Speaker 2: to our records right moving. You're supposed to build player mode.
Speaker 2: They supposed to be on no killer mode. You're supposed
Speaker 2: to be on that.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Let me get some money and let me let me
Speaker 1: get up on some females. You know what I mean, right,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: Like that, Yeah, like you say, shot, it's it's hard
Speaker 5: for you know, it's hard for the youngster because you know,
Speaker 5: some some of the youngsters, you know, when we was
Speaker 5: coming of us, when we was coming up, some of
Speaker 5: us had the mind state of being, you know, the hustler,
Speaker 5: and let me get on money, and I ain't tripping
Speaker 5: the ball. You know, I'm trying to make money with
Speaker 5: all sections I'm tripping off of. You know, if they
Speaker 5: got money, I'm gonna get money with them, get money
Speaker 5: with it. For some niggas, you know, who are trying
Speaker 5: to come up and establish that reputation, don't know how
Speaker 5: to transition that easily, you know, saying always about the
Speaker 5: pistol in the neighborhood and that comes first, and trying
Speaker 5: to prove the loyalty.
Speaker 4: You know, I knew a lot.
Speaker 5: I knew a lot of young niggas when I was
Speaker 5: young coming up who wasn't all about just you know, viciousness.
Speaker 4: You get me.
Speaker 5: Niggas was like you said, niggas was the players, and
Speaker 5: they had the money and all the bitches, and they
Speaker 5: had all the fancy new cars, and you know, you
Speaker 5: trip off or you know, see the nigga like damn
Speaker 5: that that's supposed to be an enemy. A nigga hanging
Speaker 5: with how how do he get to hang with the enemies?
Speaker 5: And they you know, but shit, somebody like us who's
Speaker 5: the rough riders. Niggas is blasting on us and nigga
Speaker 5: we blasting on it.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 5: Then niggas over their handshaking like how does how do
Speaker 5: shit work? Niggas didn't know how to transition that. The
Speaker 5: older you got and the more you start getting about,
Speaker 5: you know, nigga, we got to make It's got to
Speaker 5: be about money and motherfucking establishing motherfucking relationships. It ain't
Speaker 5: about that, you know, and and and I can understand
Speaker 5: that because, like I said, some niggas come up rough
Speaker 5: without that mentorship of being you know guided. You know
Speaker 5: a lot of niggas out there just hongry and just
Speaker 5: you know, desperate, like to prove the loyalty.
Speaker 4: To the spot.
Speaker 5: And and when you ain't on money and shit, sometimes
Speaker 5: it's gonna be difficult. And all you got is the
Speaker 5: pistol to prove your work with you feel.
Speaker 3: Me, let me ask you all something. Let me ask
Speaker 3: you something, and I guarantee you that to be fair,
Speaker 3: I guarantee the toldert dude that y'all both knew in
Speaker 3: your life didn't have to use no pistol.
Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of niggas that I saw,
Speaker 5: as you know, niggas who was about their business. A
Speaker 5: lot of times them niggas would try to be you
Speaker 5: know them, niggas would try to be cool with every nigga,
Speaker 5: especially aramatic, the different especially with different sections. Because if
Speaker 5: I'm a nigga with the if I'm a nigga with
Speaker 5: the work, I'm I need everybody to come get this
Speaker 5: ship I just don't need the niggas on the on
Speaker 5: the on the west side to come get it. You
Speaker 5: give me. I need the niggas on the east side
Speaker 5: to come get it. I need the niggas on the
Speaker 5: south side to come get it. I need to serve
Speaker 5: to that, to the to the to the niggas across
Speaker 5: the way, niggas out the county, and and and niggas
Speaker 5: with You can't. I can't be restricted because once you
Speaker 5: restrict it, you can't get all the money. And in
Speaker 5: the mind state is nigga. I want all the motherfucker.
Speaker 5: I don't want just no of it.
Speaker 4: I want it all. You feel me.
Speaker 5: The only way I could get that is by I
Speaker 5: have to be that liaison you get you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1: I took his cat. You're gonna be if you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a rapper, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You you you you should not be out there making enemy.
Speaker 1: You supposed to be out there kissing babies, shaking hands.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You know I tell these yesters though, I mean, it's
Speaker 2: it's very rare for a youngster to just come up
Speaker 2: out his hood unscathed. Mean that, if you if you
Speaker 2: think you don't come up out that hood without getting
Speaker 2: it funk on your on your rids to fame.
Speaker 4: You got another thing coming exactly.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't. You're neverna be able to keep
Speaker 2: all the niggas happy. But what you would, what you
Speaker 2: could do, is you can keep.
Speaker 1: Him at bait. You can. You need to recognize who
Speaker 1: the niggas is and and give him some love. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Don't on on your way up.
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't don't like, don't like, just don't like
Speaker 1: just pushing in their face. Don't just pull up in
Speaker 1: a bentley on him and don't say nothing.
Speaker 3: To him, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: All that?
Speaker 2: Mannah, Man, you pull up? Man, If you pull up, man,
Speaker 2: you know, hey, Bro, you wanna drink something?
Speaker 1: Man? Want to smoke? What how you doing?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: Okay, even though you know he.
Speaker 2: Really don't you really don't like you, but he probably
Speaker 2: don't change his views about you a little something after
Speaker 2: you're notching him as being the boss as well.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right, A lot of casts, a lot of justice right now,
Speaker 2: they get killed like a motherfucker. These rappers, they high risks.
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even want a baby sitting.
Speaker 2: None of these niggas don't even want any go on
Speaker 2: my label because the simple.
Speaker 1: Fact that he high risks rich especially if you're a
Speaker 1: Numblehead rapper. If you're a Numblehead rapper, right, you triple
Speaker 1: high risk.
Speaker 3: I don't seen so many talented dudes, man, I'm talking
Speaker 3: about some of the most talented dudes on't every scene. Man,
Speaker 3: they just can't get it right because they can't leave
Speaker 3: the streets alone. They hot headed, man, they taking the
Speaker 3: where they go.
Speaker 4: It's hard.
Speaker 5: It's hard, Like like I say, it's hard to make
Speaker 5: that transition, like we're saying, yeah, especially if if your upbringing.
Speaker 4: Was that lifestyle first, right, because.
Speaker 2: I was thinking so a lot of that even somebody's
Speaker 2: representing even their lifestyle.
Speaker 5: They just I'm speaking on I'm speaking on us from
Speaker 5: the past today. It's I mean, the generation is way different,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, because, like you said, you
Speaker 5: got some dudes who ain't never grew up on that
Speaker 5: street or never been through that lifestyle. And you know, hard,
Speaker 5: the hard as a motherfucker niggas to shoot you faster
Speaker 5: than the motherfucker too faster than a bumb or piss
Speaker 5: on the.
Speaker 2: Hearing to be hard because they put because now that
Speaker 2: you wrap, now that you got something, now that you
Speaker 2: got some boys hanging around you, now you've been put
Speaker 2: in a position where you feel like you need to
Speaker 2: be hard. Of course, yeah, really, you're really not that guy.
Speaker 2: And some of the other cats on the streets know
Speaker 2: you're not that guy.
Speaker 1: They grew up with you. You ain't that guy. Why
Speaker 1: he acting like that now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why you get. That's why you get all
Speaker 5: the killing and the beef. Because if I'm a nigga
Speaker 5: who went to high school with you and knew you
Speaker 5: was a nerdy punk in high schoo school, and then
Speaker 5: two years out of high school, you over here with
Speaker 5: a face full of tattoos talking about you, gun niggas
Speaker 5: up and you're showing gun I'm like, this nigga was
Speaker 5: a buster in motherfucking house.
Speaker 2: Well, that transition is also possible, don't forget. You can
Speaker 2: get bullied into some ship to the point where that
Speaker 2: you know you, you know how, you you know how
Speaker 2: dog a little puppy was a puppy and he all
Speaker 2: had to go lucky and jumping all old people, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he become that grown dog chilling.
Speaker 1: And he sit down looking like a pi pull like man,
Speaker 1: just don't come on over here, over here.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean is the most, dudes, he
Speaker 2: ain't that young dog. You know, he don't play no more.
Speaker 2: He grown now he's like, bro, don't don't even don't
Speaker 2: even try to come over here.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: Most he got something, He got something to prove now
Speaker 5: because when mother motherfuckers knew he was young, Nigga was
Speaker 5: jumping and pissing on everybody and somebody pet on you.
Speaker 4: Nigga.
Speaker 5: Nigga, now you got to prove that, Nigga, I'm not
Speaker 5: that motherfucker no more, don't and I'm and I'm damn
Speaker 5: shore gonna bite with with with an no remorse, you
Speaker 5: feel me, because the thing is, I got to prove
Speaker 5: to you I'm a real pit bull. You get me
Speaker 5: like you said you saw me motherfucking two years ago, Nigga,
Speaker 5: I'm licking all on motherfuckers and happy to be around.
Speaker 5: And like you said, the nigga walk up, he pissing
Speaker 5: all on hisself and whatever. So with knowing that motherfuckers
Speaker 5: feel like, oh I got to prove to you are
Speaker 5: my heart niggas, so yeah, I'll shoot you in two
Speaker 5: seconds and ship nigga.
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck. Just include my work.
Speaker 3: To tell you something now, Dudes and dudes who just
Speaker 3: got tired? Man, guess who just got tired of people
Speaker 3: playing with him and one day they just snap?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a snapping point.
Speaker 3: Differently, y'all doing your thisle with these records. Man always
Speaker 3: wanted to ask this man, how did the captain save
Speaker 3: the whole record come about? Y'all brought a whole new
Speaker 3: term into existence.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 2: It was just that, you know that that kind of
Speaker 2: cat that you know that that uh he like you
Speaker 2: know he he the kind of he kind of cant
Speaker 2: he was on some sucker ship like he like he
Speaker 2: he the kind of like if you got two other
Speaker 2: females and you have to let this female and she
Speaker 2: digging you, he the kind of slide slide and tell her,
Speaker 2: oh he got he.
Speaker 1: Got two bitches. You know what I mean? He got bitches.
Speaker 2: You ain't the only bitch, you feel me. That's a
Speaker 2: that's a player I had. That's a captain save ale
Speaker 2: right there. You know what I mean, He like, you
Speaker 2: don't need that nigga. Use a nigga like me and
Speaker 2: we'll be good. He got two other bitches. Why you
Speaker 2: want to mess when nigga got two other bitches?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: That kind of ship, you know, hey, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. That's how we came up with that song. Man.
Speaker 3: That that's crazy man, because y'all bought a whole new
Speaker 3: word into existence. I think everybody starts singing it after
Speaker 3: that song came on. Captain saber Hole, Yeah, the name
Speaker 3: for a lamee who liked the trick on bread on women.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, but like this, we all, we all
Speaker 1: gonna trick to a certain step. We all gonna go
Speaker 1: take a female to a restaurant. You go, you're coming
Speaker 1: out your pocket, you're coming. So I'm not saying there's
Speaker 1: certain levels of it. Now these cats, these these saber holes,
Speaker 1: now they really trick it. They breaking it off like
Speaker 1: really like, you know, really kicking it down. But always
Speaker 1: say though, at.
Speaker 2: This age, I mean, no matter what you're gonna, you're
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna buy a female a drink, whether you're
Speaker 2: at a club or whatever.
Speaker 1: I can't call that. I call that being a gentleman.
Speaker 2: If I'm buying a drink and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: and we you know, we're conversating, I call that being
Speaker 2: a player.
Speaker 1: I call that being you know, hey, I'm looking out
Speaker 1: for you. You feel me?
Speaker 3: You know, because it's grown men now. Man, we like
Speaker 3: to take our women and let them have a good time.
Speaker 3: You know your wife, My wife is gonna be the
Speaker 3: one to reap the benefits of everything because you know,
Speaker 3: I take my wife. So I like to take on vacations.
Speaker 3: I like being able to get her some bags. I
Speaker 3: like being get here here.
Speaker 2: They be trying to slide around in front of you
Speaker 2: and just nigga, he ain't he ain't cool for you.
Speaker 1: That's that's the kind of captain safe hold that we
Speaker 1: be talking about.
Speaker 5: Right, the nigga that needs to hate on the motherfucking
Speaker 5: talk ship just to try to get next to you.
Speaker 3: Mother.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's what that is.
Speaker 4: You get niggas, niggas. You niggas niggas did that ship.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Anytime a nigga will want what you got, they feel
Speaker 5: that they would do it by just trying to always
Speaker 5: feel the broad full of false information or you know,
Speaker 5: I know that nigga, that nigga ain't this or I
Speaker 5: heard this or I heard that. So niggas who feel
Speaker 5: like they can't, you know, they can't step to a
Speaker 5: female with their own with their own represent tation, they
Speaker 5: gotta hate on the next nigga. That's just to be
Speaker 5: able to get the next opportunity. That's what we that's
Speaker 5: what we called it.
Speaker 3: It's real, man. And you know you said earlier Man
Speaker 3: that you were an entrepreneur, ciingl entrepreneur. I'm a civil
Speaker 3: entrepreneur myself. You jumped in the movie Game Man at
Speaker 3: the time that it wasn't a lot of people doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm not scared. Like like you said, you wasn't scared
Speaker 2: to go out and get a podcast. I wasn't scared
Speaker 2: to you know, take a risk, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: take a risk. You know some Tyler Perry had take risks.
Speaker 2: We all sometimes sometimes, Man, we gotta we we gotta,
Speaker 2: we gotta damn to go broke.
Speaker 1: If you really believe in your project, you can believe
Speaker 1: in yourself, you have to have money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna spend some money and you might not
Speaker 3: make it back because I'm gonna tell you when we
Speaker 3: started doing Gangster Chrome, because you gotta remember when we
Speaker 3: started doing the podcast, it wasn't a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: podcasts out here, and I was executive public, so I'm
Speaker 3: paying for studio time. I wanted to sound a certain way,
Speaker 3: so we're paying for the big studio up at the
Speaker 3: CBS building. I got this and this one dude want
Speaker 3: to come late all the time, but he don't know
Speaker 3: whether you show up or not. I still got to
Speaker 3: pay that engineer for a whole hour because I got
Speaker 3: a book. I got the room book for an hour.
Speaker 3: So it was times man to where CATS wasn't coming
Speaker 3: on time though, and I had to go over and
Speaker 3: get double time and all that because it was a
Speaker 3: little different. You know, It's like when you're dealing with
Speaker 3: those type of engineers and stuff like that, and working
Speaker 3: in the radio station is kind of like billing you
Speaker 3: for that time is you wanted to sound a certain way, right.
Speaker 3: But I will say that everything I spent was worth it,
Speaker 3: even money that even money that I didn't make back,
Speaker 3: because I looked at it as a class, like.
Speaker 1: You gotta take the risks.
Speaker 3: I look at that as training because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you like this, Like when you read the books like
Speaker 3: were talking about, like ten X and all these other books, right,
Speaker 3: these great they call them self help books. The biggest
Speaker 3: thing they tell you without no risk is no reward.
Speaker 3: You ain't stand back and expect somebody else to find
Speaker 3: your dreams.
Speaker 2: Look, you know, one of the heaviest books I ever read,
Speaker 2: you know, besides the thinking go rich was the richest
Speaker 2: man in Babylon.
Speaker 3: Mhm.
Speaker 1: If you, if you.
Speaker 2: Go get that audio book and and and pop that
Speaker 2: in your thing. It tells you about every financial situation ever.
Speaker 2: It even tells you it's like it's like it's back
Speaker 2: in the the uh biboloonean days, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: the way it's talking stuff like that, but really listen
Speaker 2: to it, how it's getting down. It gives you every
Speaker 2: situation where even a rich man that ended up getting
Speaker 2: abroad and she going through his pockets, she's running through it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It shows stuff like that
Speaker 2: back in the day type ship and it and all
Speaker 2: his all his partners and all his rich partners. Was like,
Speaker 2: bro you know, I'm warning you man, you know you
Speaker 2: you you you you're going broke.
Speaker 1: And now you come and get more help from us.
Speaker 2: This is the last time we're gonna help you, because
Speaker 2: we see what they're broad doing to you.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So the man would all the man would, all they broke,
Speaker 2: and the bitch end is stabbing that motherfucker. And then
Speaker 2: she stabbed herself through herself and that you phrase when
Speaker 2: it went broke.
Speaker 1: But just stuff like that, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, It just shows you everything. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go back and read that one more time too, man.
Speaker 4: You know, to man, that's right.
Speaker 3: I wish you could see that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Two popish you can see the corner of my room
Speaker 1: to Tupac. He was a massive, massive reader too.
Speaker 3: Most of it, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you a staff man ninety five percent, no, ninety nine
Speaker 3: percent of fortune five hundred Ppany people read on average
Speaker 3: four hours of books quarter. I feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's a quartering every three month. They're reading at least
Speaker 3: four hours worth of books, right, and they make three
Speaker 3: hundred average person that gets a worker may not read none, dude.
Speaker 3: They may read two minutes, and that's telling you something.
Speaker 3: They make three hundred and thirteen they make three hundred
Speaker 3: percent less than the person that does all that reading.
Speaker 3: Man knowledge the power. My wife, if I wish you
Speaker 3: would see the corner of my MIC's thing. And right
Speaker 3: now I got a gang of books. My wife like,
Speaker 3: you read those books already, why don't you throw themway?
Speaker 3: And said, no, those are life, those survival mechanism. And
Speaker 3: they said, don't be the tree, become the salt. That's
Speaker 3: one of my favorite books, right because I've said sometimes
Speaker 3: when I'm down not I have to read them books
Speaker 3: to remember how to get back to my mission.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, though, I remember, you know,
Speaker 2: doing a lot of reading, getting a lot of knowledge,
Speaker 2: I became you could become the book. Mean that you
Speaker 2: can get stagnated in the knowledge, but your action, you're
Speaker 2: not putting forth action. What you got to go do? See,
Speaker 2: I have to put the books down. You gotta put
Speaker 2: them down too, Like, okay, no more books.
Speaker 1: I ain't get I got to get moving on these streets.
Speaker 1: I gotta get wiggling. You feel what I'm saying, see
Speaker 1: it for real? I don't know if you if you
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that.
Speaker 3: I understand it. I understand that you stagnant to the
Speaker 3: point to where you're reading the book and you have
Speaker 3: the knowledge, but you're not exactly a plan all the principles.
Speaker 1: There you go that part.
Speaker 3: I'm never planning all the principles because I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you I've become that toot where I've gotten See. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tell you, man, comfort is a dream killer. When
Speaker 3: you think you comfortable and you got a certain amount
Speaker 3: of money and you get comfortable, he say, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna chill out for the day and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: liay upre and watch TV. That's why I forced myself,
Speaker 3: no matter what I got going on, bro, no matter
Speaker 3: how late I went to bed the night before, I'll
Speaker 3: wake up at six o'clock in the morning. Because it's
Speaker 3: nine o'clock in New York, it's one o'clock in the
Speaker 3: afternoon in London. The world is moving while you in
Speaker 3: the bed sleep, right. I watched you in the bed.
Speaker 1: The world is moving. I watched forty all the time.
Speaker 3: Right there.
Speaker 1: He ain't never he he's still home. He ain't never comfortable, even.
Speaker 2: Though he most dudes he got the bag, but he
Speaker 2: sometimes sometime I get comfortable, man, I get you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, I have to fight myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes sometimes we get in a position, you know
Speaker 5: when when we know, you know, like you said, we
Speaker 5: feel comfortable, so we like, yeah, you know, cool.
Speaker 4: But it's some niggas man who.
Speaker 5: Just like I'm fucking if I can get it, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna keep getting it until I can't get it no more.
Speaker 5: And so they always chasing the avenue. You feel me,
Speaker 5: He remembered the struggle.
Speaker 2: Every everything, everything he's doing right now, I'm talking about
Speaker 2: like the drinks he be making.
Speaker 1: He was that guy.
Speaker 2: He used to drink stuff like that, like his red
Speaker 2: wine is. Everything he put his hands on was the
Speaker 2: old him. He just bringing it back. He even went
Speaker 2: back to to the turf burritos. He got turf burritos
Speaker 2: like you get you get out of seventy eleven, exactly
Speaker 2: made his own because he knew we're doing the struggle.
Speaker 2: That's what we popped by seventy level good tur burrito.
Speaker 5: You still see a nigga, you going to level fucking
Speaker 5: grabbing them a seventy eleven pizza or a hot dog
Speaker 5: or a mother burrito.
Speaker 4: The struggle real. That's why it was real.
Speaker 2: He still never forgot that, so he kind of imitating it.
Speaker 4: It's smart because you go ship.
Speaker 5: Why would I continue to give a motherfucking money for
Speaker 5: their ship when I can make the ship just as
Speaker 5: simple as they made. A nigga gonna buy my ship
Speaker 5: before he buys seven eleven brand, just for the fact
Speaker 5: that it's it's the goon he forty, you feel me,
Speaker 5: and especially because these a lot of these stores are
Speaker 5: still connected in the neighborhood, so you still got niggas
Speaker 5: in the neighborhood walking into these stores and fuck it
Speaker 5: before I give you motherfucking five dollars for uh a
Speaker 5: mister something burrito or a seventy eleven brand, fucking let
Speaker 5: me make.
Speaker 4: God damn right. And nine times out of ten, fuck it.
Speaker 5: I know he forty, I bump me some E forty,
Speaker 5: So as a regular nigga pulling in, fuck it, let
Speaker 5: me try one of these motherfucking tur barritos and shit,
Speaker 5: because you about to eat a seventy eleven one anyway,
Speaker 5: so why not grab a e forty one?
Speaker 4: You feel me real, especially.
Speaker 5: If it's in the motherfucking community where I'm used to
Speaker 5: be stomping around. You feel me, and it's still representing
Speaker 5: the community that niggas know I came from.
Speaker 4: You feel me, so that that works perfectly. You feel me?
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, you remember you remember that he was
Speaker 2: one of the one of the happiest days of my
Speaker 2: life when we did that uh that big ass sourcal
Speaker 2: word picture.
Speaker 1: Remember we did? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, definitely every rapper from
Speaker 1: the West Coast was right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah. My son, my son, he just found that like
Speaker 4: a week ago.
Speaker 5: He's at college and it takes a photography class and
Speaker 5: one of his classmate showed him the picture and was like,
Speaker 5: is your dad in this?
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 5: As soon as he said that, I spot at you instantly,
Speaker 5: he said.
Speaker 4: You know so.
Speaker 5: It's kind of cool because he's starting to go back
Speaker 5: and get familiar with some of our ship. You get
Speaker 5: me because you know, this younger generation, they be on
Speaker 5: all that other crazy shit. So now him him getting
Speaker 5: ready to turn twenty one, he's starting to calm down
Speaker 5: his music selection and a lot of his music is
Speaker 5: starting to beat a lot of our ship. You feel me,
Speaker 5: So you know that's that's that's a positive note for
Speaker 5: me because all the shit he was listening to At first,
Speaker 5: I was like, what the fuck is that going on?
Speaker 4: You feel me? So?
Speaker 1: Can you got us on fire over here?
Speaker 2: Man? He me forty cats, Man, he got us, He
Speaker 2: got us cracking. So we gotta we gotta you know,
Speaker 2: we gotta full.
Speaker 3: Of suit man exactly. Man, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 3: He's the prime example of speaking stuff into existence. Man.
Speaker 3: I remember when Kimbrick was Jay Rock's heype. Man. I've
Speaker 3: known Kendrick Dog since he was about maybe seventeen. Shout
Speaker 3: out to the Homeboys, TD Top punctioning all of them dudes,
Speaker 3: and Man, I remember, Man, I tell people all the time,
Speaker 3: Rolph is probably one of the most relentless dudes I've
Speaker 3: ever met. He was gonna make it in the music industry,
Speaker 3: man regard like no matter, no, he wasn't gonna be denied. Man.
Speaker 3: I remember he would beat man. I'm talking about from
Speaker 3: following dudes around, from from pestering people, Dog and he
Speaker 3: just made it. Man, A lot of dudes that slept
Speaker 3: on him. He still remembers all that. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 3: he do still remember all that, man, and long boy Hendrick,
Speaker 3: you just saw he just had that drive in the man.
Speaker 3: Anybody that successful got a certain drive, man, because you
Speaker 3: can't think like the normal person. See the thing I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say this, Man, before we get finished, I know
Speaker 3: you busy, d shot, So we gonna shut it down
Speaker 3: a minute. Man, if you contend with being average, you
Speaker 3: probably not gonna make it. Man, you got a really
Speaker 3: ten times your way of thinking and think.
Speaker 1: You know what they call that about that then average?
Speaker 1: They call that the herd mentality. You know, the following
Speaker 1: one of one and all the rest of them following together.
Speaker 1: They call it the Yeah see I'm I'm that cat.
Speaker 1: I go off.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gonna hear off to the right
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 5: You feel to be able to you got to be
Speaker 5: able to break away from the norm because I tell
Speaker 5: I told my son this all the time growing up,
Speaker 5: because you know, you have to instill these things in
Speaker 5: your in your in your seeds growing up, because that's
Speaker 5: where they get the knowledge from. If you don't plan
Speaker 5: it into them, then they can pick up all kinds
Speaker 5: of ship. I would always tell my son from you know,
Speaker 5: from the moment he started having friends and and you know, elementary, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, uh, middle school whatever. I would always tell
Speaker 5: him be a leader, not a follower, right, because sometimes
Speaker 5: you get in these positions to where you just want
Speaker 5: to be loan you feel me, and so that's that mentality.
Speaker 5: Fuck it, I'm gonna do what everybody else doing because whatever.
Speaker 5: And you're never gonna be able to break away from
Speaker 5: the norm if you can't think for yourself out of
Speaker 5: the box. If you always feel like you said that
Speaker 5: herb mentality, well shit, everybody going that way. Fuck it,
Speaker 5: I'm going that way too, nigga, ain't going into a fire. Repit, nigga,
Speaker 5: what do you mean? You so follow along because you
Speaker 5: see everybody doing that ship. You gotta be able to
Speaker 5: think outside of that and for yourself and expand your
Speaker 5: brain to not think that simplicity is what's for you.
Speaker 5: You gotta think that shit, I gotta be different than
Speaker 5: simple or average you are.
Speaker 1: That's why the album and stuff in the background magazine.
Speaker 4: You gotta think.
Speaker 1: So put your own route. Man, you are trying to
Speaker 1: sound like nobody, but you.
Speaker 5: Oh no, ever' I learned that from the beginning. You know,
Speaker 5: just find your own place and then just stick with
Speaker 5: that and if that works for you, then that's that's
Speaker 5: your lane. You feel me, if you try to turn
Speaker 5: around and do what everybody else is doing. You're gonna
Speaker 5: got caught up in the wash because if that ship
Speaker 5: don't work, now you ain't working.
Speaker 2: It's to change what's on that radio, that thing that
Speaker 2: that whole thing can change over.
Speaker 1: To something to some mobs in two months.
Speaker 5: Which is this which this game has done?
Speaker 1: You feel me?
Speaker 5: So you got to be able to establish your own
Speaker 5: fucking lane and want to establish your own lane. You
Speaker 5: can't get nervous when you see ship starting to get
Speaker 5: a little, you know, a little rocky.
Speaker 4: You got gonna fuck that. Well.
Speaker 5: Ship them niggas over there doing that, Now, maybe I
Speaker 5: need to try that ship. That's when you're gonna lose
Speaker 5: your true lawyer. Motherfucking fan base, and motherfuckers gonna be like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck. So I've always had the mentality once
Speaker 5: I got my lane, I'm just gonna stay right there
Speaker 5: because the people who fuck with me they appreciate that.
Speaker 4: I just stay right there.
Speaker 5: And when the motherfuck waves get rocky and you see
Speaker 5: all these niggas, you know, you cruising in your ship,
Speaker 5: You're gonna get some niggas to pass by on the
Speaker 5: fast jet skis and the speed boats and whatever. But
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stay cruising like I know how to do.
Speaker 5: My ship might be a little older, it might be
Speaker 5: a little whatever. You know, y'all. Niggas got the threefold motors, Nigga,
Speaker 5: my ship got the big sales that go up.
Speaker 1: Y'all might get there fifteen minutes before me.
Speaker 4: I get My shit is still pulling in.
Speaker 3: If you get there, I'm gonna tell you something before
Speaker 3: before we get there a week later.
Speaker 5: But I guarantee you my ship still it is still
Speaker 5: pulling in the port.
Speaker 3: Give me.
Speaker 1: Don't you trip off?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: You know I can't be driving on. They be driving
Speaker 1: off fast, trying.
Speaker 2: To get where they got to go, and Jesus cruising
Speaker 2: sudden you see that same car at the stop.
Speaker 5: Light, like fuck did all that zig zagon is swooping
Speaker 5: and motor rapping and brook.
Speaker 2: At people crazy, get out the way, look at you say,
Speaker 2: you need.
Speaker 3: To see them at the same wheel light you with
Speaker 3: you sat them off on the side of the road.
Speaker 3: But they don't break their ship right you passed them
Speaker 3: on up. You still chill more right past them on
Speaker 3: up and blow the horn heave.
Speaker 4: Them like nigga. Man, Yeah, definitely, I remember appreciate you coming.
Speaker 2: I remember this one motivator man I used to read.
Speaker 2: His name was Jim Rowan. He said, he said, uh,
Speaker 2: he's old. He's an old old man ninety when he died.
Speaker 2: But he said, he said, always when I go to
Speaker 2: a stop light, always sit back for at least thirty
Speaker 2: seconds when that light turned grig because that thirty seconds
Speaker 2: might just be the thirty seconds that saved your.
Speaker 1: Life for sure.
Speaker 2: But you're doing that thirty seconds, you're giving one of
Speaker 2: them cars that then rent the light.
Speaker 3: They don't ring like time to get by and show
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 1: I see it. You know what, man watched.
Speaker 2: I always use that the same thirty seconds and the
Speaker 2: car shows swoop by.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 3: All my kids that drive now, that was the first
Speaker 3: thing I told them. When the light turned green, wait
Speaker 3: thirty second, because I guarantee you it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: motherfucker that the light don't turn red and he's still
Speaker 3: trying to take it. And how many times you don't
Speaker 3: see people get t bone. I tell my kids do
Speaker 3: that all the time. One time, my one son, he said,
Speaker 3: then I wait hill and a car came baggling through
Speaker 3: that if he wink he got smashed there is you know,
Speaker 3: slow down, man, I really man, exact.
Speaker 1: We popped a little bit of analyze that up.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was about to tell you, man, I appreciate
Speaker 3: you coming to sit down. Man. It's always a pleasure, man,
Speaker 3: because I definitely feel like you want of them dudes
Speaker 3: Man that don't really get the credit that you deserve.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, my credit is, you know, as long
Speaker 2: as my You know, I'm lining my own little pocket
Speaker 2: book and minding my own business. I ain't trying to
Speaker 2: be bigger than better than nobody else. I'm just doing
Speaker 2: what I wanted to do.
Speaker 5: That's it in your lane, D shot. That's my nigga, Na,
Speaker 5: that's my nigga D shot. I used to get it
Speaker 5: in here.
Speaker 1: I can sleep on your couch, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: You shout. We got to look on some of these movies. Man.
Speaker 3: I got some scripts, man, I actually got actually got
Speaker 3: a cold script. Man. Actually he got a cold script
Speaker 3: man that I've been kind of developing a little bit.
Speaker 3: Man about this dude, And we'll talk about that off camera. Man,
Speaker 3: But I got a character for you.
Speaker 1: I'm in it. Let's go.
Speaker 3: I got a character for you, man, I got a
Speaker 3: a he devious too.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 2: The lane is open for us. Man, it's damn the
Speaker 2: more more it could be. Well, I ain't gonna say
Speaker 2: it's more more money than.
Speaker 3: Music, but you know it's possible. It's possible to be.
Speaker 2: TV is movie kind of mean right now for us? Man,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know the digital real estate. That's my
Speaker 2: distributed call.
Speaker 4: He called it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you estate. There's a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: Detroit casten. Don't make millions man, y'all. Man, where do
Speaker 3: people go find you at? Where you at, man, where
Speaker 3: you're resting your feet, at where they can find you at?
Speaker 1: Bro oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 2: You can hit me at the you gotta cut off
Speaker 2: a little bit. You can hit me at the real
Speaker 2: d shot you know what I mean. On Instagram you
Speaker 2: can just box me. I'm right on it.
Speaker 3: Yes, if you heard it, Man, you can call too.
Speaker 1: It's right there, the number right there on the time
Speaker 1: you call the nigga too.
Speaker 5: All my nigga, hit my nigga up, y'all. Go peep
Speaker 5: out that brand new album. Man, it's fired, man, don't
Speaker 5: even trip on it. Talk my nigga been moving man,
Speaker 5: y'all check, I'll peeped the videos out. Shout out to
Speaker 5: my nigga Jay sith Too man on the videos and
Speaker 5: ship Man. That's my nigga jag Man. So y'all, I
Speaker 5: might come out there fuck with you, D Shot. I
Speaker 5: don't even trip.
Speaker 2: Okay, he got my number. Everybody got my numbers. Got
Speaker 2: wen We're gonna do something moving.
Speaker 3: I got yeah, I wanna make I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 3: you get the eight ally D shop Man. We appreciate
Speaker 3: you and y'all. Hey, that's it for this week, y'all.
Speaker 3: Make sure y'all go follow us at the Gamester Chronicles
Speaker 3: podcast on Instagram. My boy with yours eight eight oh.
Speaker 5: Eight eight oaight, y'all know why I man man, y'all
Speaker 5: see me all the time, come to it.
Speaker 3: Follow the Homie T shop Man. Next time I wanted
Speaker 3: a team. I wanted to have like fifty sixty hundred
Speaker 3: thousand New Gangster Chronicles people that said, man, I heard
Speaker 3: you want to show man, and now I'm gonna big.
Speaker 3: I want some more of that game. Man. Man, We
Speaker 3: we appreciate you, and we out of here, y'all. Jill, Well,
Speaker 3: that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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