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Speaker 1: A deadly winter storm whipped across the Jagged Hill in

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Speaker 1: North Korea. It was the last day of November nineteen

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Speaker 1: The Marines of Company G tried to find a foothold

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Speaker 1: on the hill. It was pure ice. They kicked their

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Speaker 1: and they had to do it fast. They heard the

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Speaker 1: sound of bugles and whistles. The Marines knew what that meant.

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Speaker 1: They were about to face an onslaught of enemy soldiers,

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Speaker 1: and they were totally and completely outnumbered. UN forces had

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Speaker 1: been trying to hold this ground for days. Many had

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Speaker 1: the hill. They knew certain death when they saw it,

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Speaker 1: but not the men of Company g There was something

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Speaker 1: that kept them going. It sure wasn't food. Their cans

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Speaker 1: or rations were frozen solid. It wasn't adrenaline either. It

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Speaker 1: was their captain, Carl Sitter. He moved from one position

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Speaker 1: talked to them. He told them they could do it,

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Speaker 1: hold that heel. Secretly in his heart, Carl believed that

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Speaker 1: he might not survive. In fact, he was pretty sure

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Speaker 1: that his men would. I'm j R. Martinez and this

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Speaker 1: is Medal of Honor Stories of Courage. The Medal of

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Speaker 1: Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States,

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Speaker 1: awarded for gallantry and bravery and combat at the risk

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Speaker 1: of life, above and beyond the call of duty. Each

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Speaker 1: candidate must be approved all the way up the chain

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Speaker 1: of command, from the supervisory officer in the field to

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Speaker 1: the White House. This show was about those heroes, what

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Speaker 1: they did, what it meant and what their stories tell

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Speaker 1: us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Carl Sitter

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Speaker 1: wasn't your typical marine. He wasn't an amazing physical specimen,

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Speaker 1: all muscle and rawn. He was kind of pudgy, round

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Speaker 1: crazy thing. Carl wasn't really supposed to be there. His

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Speaker 1: He was supposed to be a Special Services officer. And

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Speaker 1: guns or ammo. It was basketball's football and jockstraps. Not

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Speaker 1: exactly the job he'd wanted. Carl was only twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: But Carl wanted to be on the front lines, so

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Speaker 2: On Sunday, June twenty fifth, communist forces attacked the Republic

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Speaker 1: That's President Harry Truman.

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Speaker 2: We know that the cost of freedom is high, but

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Speaker 1: At first, it looked like the United Nations forces would

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Speaker 1: Some were battle hardened veterans, and most were so called

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Speaker 1: General MacArthur ordered a hasty withdrawal, but then those withdrawing

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Speaker 3: Here, thousands of Marines and other United Nations forces are

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Speaker 1: Carl and Company G were in North Korea, but far

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Speaker 4: Then we got the word, you guys are going to

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Speaker 1: They were going to bring ammunition, food, and supplies to

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Speaker 4: The people up around the reservoir desperately needed reinforcements, particularly

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Speaker 1: Most of the troops were near the UN force's last

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Speaker 1: It wasn't just the enemy that was deadly, it was

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Speaker 1: the weather. It was the coldest Korean winter in one

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Speaker 1: hundred years. Raymond Davis was there, like Carl. He was

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Speaker 5: The snow cames of Tempture dropped to forty below zero

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Speaker 1: Weapons froze, shut truck batteries.

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Speaker 5: Died, faces covered with the ice. The radios wouldn't work.

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Speaker 5: They were frozen food, frozen water, frozen terrible conditions.

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Speaker 1: And the men didn't have the right gear. After all,

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Speaker 1: everyone including leadership, had been sure they'd be home by Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Their coats were thin. On their feet, they wore something

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Speaker 1: And now Carl and his men were going deeper into

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Speaker 1: Here's Stephen Olmsted again that private in Carl's company.

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Speaker 4: We boarded trucks and there was kind of like an

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Speaker 1: Hell Fire Alley is right on one side of the road.

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Speaker 1: There were steep drop offs going down thousands of feet.

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Speaker 1: On the other side, Chinese fighters held the high ground.

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Speaker 1: Carl was focused and calm as they made their way

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Speaker 1: we don't have access to recordings of Carl, but he

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Speaker 1: was interviewed many times during his life. Our editor and

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Speaker 1: good friend of the podcast, Ben Nadaf Hoffrey, is going

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Speaker 1: to read his words here. This is what Carl told

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Speaker 6: I yelled for everybody to get off the trucks, and

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Speaker 6: it seemed like anybody close to me was getting shot,

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Speaker 1: Carl didn't have time to marvel at his survival. As

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Speaker 1: He could no longer lead the group. Command to Carl,

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Speaker 1: let me remind you Carl wasn't even supposed to be

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Speaker 1: But he didn't question it. He had a sense that

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Speaker 1: if he was there, it was for a reason. By

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Speaker 1: this point it was night. The surviving Marines cleared the

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Speaker 1: Then they saw the distant lights of the marine encampment.

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Speaker 1: Carl breathed a sigh of relief. There were tents on

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Speaker 1: They weren't. Chinese fighters jumped out of the tents and

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Speaker 1: the Marines were right back in the battle. Three of

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Speaker 1: They were freezing and exhausted. But if the un troops

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Speaker 1: Carl's men looked up at him with hopelessness. They were

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Speaker 1: As darkness descended again, the enemy returned in full force,

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Speaker 1: And then just before dawn, the attack slowed. As the

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Speaker 1: Reinforcements and supplies were finally on their way. Carl had survived.

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Speaker 1: Only ninety six of his men walked off that hill

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Speaker 4: I felt that if I were a hit, killed, or

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Speaker 1: Carl had survived, but the battle had changed him. It

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Speaker 1: There was something else that struck him that all the

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Speaker 5: They didn't have our children, didn't have air. We found

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Speaker 1: Carl's heart went out to those enemy fighters, even after

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Speaker 3: Two marine officers received from the President's hands the nation's

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Speaker 1: But Carl didn't believe he did anything particularly special.

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Speaker 6: Or I had the easy job, because as commanding officer,

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Speaker 1: He wondered what God wanted from him. Was fighting in

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Speaker 6: What war does is destroy people on both sides, and

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Speaker 1: What I love about Carl's story is how grounded it

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