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Speaker 2: It's Maria no Josa of Latino Usa. Cellino Sanchez el

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Speaker 2: Rey de Marco Corrido lived a life full of facts

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Speaker 2: and fiction. His mysterious death has opened up a can

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Speaker 2: of conspiracy theories about the narco world across the US

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Speaker 2: and Mexico. Today we continue with the second installment of Idolo,

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Speaker 2: The Ballad of Chelino Sanchez and just warning, there are

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Speaker 2: mentions of drug use, violence and graphic language in this

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Speaker 2: episode our Futuro Studios podcast in collaboration with Sonorro Media

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Speaker 2: and now Here's Eric Galindo.

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Speaker 1: There are parts of Sinaloa, like where my parents grew up,

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Speaker 1: where knowing someone who is either in the cartels or

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Speaker 1: who has been hit by cartel violence is common, and

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Speaker 1: it's the kind of place for honor matters and stories

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Speaker 1: about defending that on in are common. And it's exactly

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Speaker 1: that kind of story that is the basis of a

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Speaker 1: very popular theory about who killed Chellino. We are calling

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Speaker 1: it the Fiesta theory because it's an event that happened

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Speaker 1: at a party. So versions say it was at a

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Speaker 1: party for a holiday that celebrates the start of the

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Speaker 1: Mexican Revolution. Others just say it was a fiesta or

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Speaker 1: a dance of some sorts. That's the thing about Chellino.

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Speaker 1: His life is full of mystery, his past riddled with holes,

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Speaker 1: so we never know exactly what happened. But we've traveled

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Speaker 1: to Sinaloa and talk to people about how things went down,

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Speaker 1: and we've read and watched everything Chellino out there, and

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Speaker 1: based on that and some imagination, we've recreated some scenes

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Speaker 1: which you'll hear every now and then in this podcast.

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Speaker 1: And this first scene it's not just a theory, it's

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Speaker 1: a big part of Chelino's legend. It's nineteen seventy two,

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Speaker 1: or maybe it's nineteen seventy four. Like most things involving

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Speaker 1: Chelio Sanchez, the exact dates are a little blurry, but

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Speaker 1: it's around that time that a teenage Chelino Sanchez is

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Speaker 1: about to get into a dust up with some grown

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Speaker 1: ass men just outside. Young Chellino, known around town as

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Speaker 1: a skinning little hot head, is at a local party

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Speaker 1: stalking a man who disrespected his family's honor. Not just

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Speaker 1: any man, a local mafia boss who is at this

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Speaker 1: party with a small but heavily armed entourage. He's surrounded

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Speaker 1: by his men enjoying the music, eating food and pouring

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Speaker 1: drinks and Cellino while someone just gave him his first

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Speaker 1: gun as a gift. He's simple revolver in the hands

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Speaker 1: of a child, ready to do battle. The music and

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Speaker 1: the party begins to fade while Chelino focuses on his

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Speaker 1: objective revenge. But Chellino is patient. There's no need to rush.

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Speaker 1: He's waiting for the perfect moment, holding on tight with

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Speaker 1: There's a live band playing tamboraso and among the commotion

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Speaker 1: and music, Chellino spotsis target. Suddenly, Chelino feels his hand

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Speaker 1: pulling the gun from his waistband. It's like he's not

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Speaker 1: even thinking, his body's just moving on adrenaline and instinct.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, what's about to go down at this

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Speaker 1: party is the beginning of the Challino legend, But according

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Speaker 1: to the Fiesta theory, it's also going to result in

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Speaker 1: Chellino's murder. Some fifteen years later, for Fututo Studios in

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Speaker 1: Sonoro in association with Similo Productions, I'm Mark Galindo and

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Speaker 1: this is Idolo, the Ballad of Chelino Sanchez. He show

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Speaker 1: about the man who would become known as the godfather

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Speaker 1: of Naco corridos, whose life would become its own kind

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Speaker 1: of genary drug ballot. The exact details are a bit fuzzy,

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Speaker 1: but here's what we can put together about the Fiesta theory.

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Speaker 1: Chelino left sin Allah for the United States to work

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Speaker 1: when he was just a teenager, and apparently he left

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Speaker 1: due to an incident that happened at a party. Many

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Speaker 1: thought that he would never return to Gulagan after that incident,

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Speaker 1: but he did. He returned to his homeland a rising star,

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Speaker 1: to sing his corridos for a sold out crowd one

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Speaker 1: have to go to the place where Challino's story began

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Speaker 1: end and where my family's from, to Sinaloa. One of

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Speaker 1: food was so good. Everything was cooked over an open

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Speaker 1: He grew up all over the place, but primarily in Kuliacan,

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Speaker 1: I'm almost selling tortas delicious tortas assala by the side

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Speaker 1: a hell raiser in his youth, not unlike Challino. When

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Speaker 1: was nearly murdered by some nauticals for throwing rocks at

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Speaker 1: because that's the kind of hometown we are talking about

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Speaker 1: when we are talking about Chelino's origins, where nauticals shoot students,

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Speaker 1: the Mariscos are life changing and got in Assala will

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Speaker 1: make you fall in love. It's also the kind of

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Speaker 1: place where you can enter an actual legit raffle to

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Speaker 1: in an eight ball of cocaine using WhatsApp, where narticos

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Speaker 1: wanted by the DEA and FBI can eat dinner and

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Speaker 1: plain sight, and where the cemeteries have crips that are

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Speaker 3: Jose Alejandro Mendoza Perio Vista, productor Musico Tambien.

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Speaker 1: Alejandro Mendoza is the host of the Spanish version of

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Speaker 1: this podcast and a badass reporter based in Mexico City.

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Speaker 1: He went to Clagan to report the Mexican side of

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Speaker 1: this story, and he's driving around a cemetery in the

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Speaker 4: It's a Evano.

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Speaker 1: Alex Is with Feliciano Castro, a retired professor from Lau

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Speaker 1: Nivosida Aloa, who offered to give a tour through the cemetery.

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Speaker 4: Yorita Aria Monson's question, drecri mine de los mottafios a

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Speaker 1: Right away through the car window they see something that

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Speaker 1: the taj Mahal, the famous monument that an Indian emperor

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Speaker 1: built for his dead wife. S Al Tamagnel Nicholas Albuna's castles,

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Speaker 1: just like the real taj Maha there's many but still

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Speaker 1: decadence size version was made for someone powerful. There are

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Speaker 4: Is al semantin iwan in Na.

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Speaker 1: Filiciano says that the war between drug cartels continues into

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Speaker 1: Gula Gan, the capital of Sinalois, is a contradiction. You

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Speaker 1: can find mausoleums bigger than some houses in my neighborhood

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Speaker 1: fundamental to Kuliacan, a city Chaellino knew very well. Chelino's

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Speaker 1: biography is a combination of facts and legend, but this

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Speaker 1: is what we know. Chelino Sanchez was born Rosalino Sanchez

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Speaker 1: parents were Santos and Senorina Sanchez Felix. The Sanchez Felix

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Speaker 1: family was from a small town in the region named Las.

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Speaker 3: Tapias andsaio Chelino Sanchez.

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Speaker 1: That's Silver Messa musician and journalists from Sinaloa Rural q.

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Speaker 1: He explains that Lastapias is near the mountains of Drango,

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Speaker 1: family goes from being poor to extreme poverty. As a result,

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Speaker 1: According to his brother Francisco, Charlino was the spoiled one

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Speaker 1: That's his brother Francisco speaking in a twenty twenty documentary

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Speaker 1: about Charlino called King of Corridos. He says he has

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Speaker 1: All the brothers grew up working on farms to earn

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Speaker 1: the early seventies and Chellino is now a teenage cool

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Speaker 1: He becomes furious and promises, the day that I become

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Speaker 3: Chelino sanche representa too. Tola's characteristicas the Loquez ompersonation Sinaloa

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Speaker 1: And people in Sinala relate to his music because he

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Speaker 7: Corrillos is a music genre that was born in the

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Speaker 1: That's musician Renee Gauss, who grow up as a border

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Speaker 1: Stories of brave men and cowards, MACHOs who love to womanize,

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Speaker 1: It's like this. You walk into your favorite taco spot

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Speaker 1: He begins to strum the chords and with a voice

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Speaker 1: Guess now. When the corrido ends, he goes over to

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Speaker 1: Chalino had formed part of the Sina Lences soundtrack since

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Speaker 1: Here's Sinala musician Wachato again, who not only uses Challino

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Speaker 3: Corridos Recordongo the Chalino ante sorestas Camionetta's fourth dee as

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Speaker 3: Sonando for Let's comes a tipicahway Elsa, Radios Taxi, la

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Speaker 1: Whatato says he remembers listening to Chalino from those old

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Speaker 1: eighties fourth pickup trucks that would blast Chellino's music throughout Kuliacan.

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Speaker 7: Your marquerdo mi mama los ave el disco la colonia,

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Speaker 7: Muim contrata.

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Speaker 7: The music oramus maala.

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Speaker 1: And to really understand Challino's trajectory, you have to understand

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Speaker 1: Just like Chellino revolutionized corridos, Miguel Felix Gayado revolutionized drug

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Speaker 1: World that the Sinaloa kingpins of the seventies and eighties

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Speaker 1: But no one need talk to believes that anyone related

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the Fiesta theory seems like the good

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Speaker 1: The story is as follows. Ragulo, yet another one of

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Speaker 1: in Charlino Corrido called Loss Gales. It said that Charino

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Speaker 1: maintained a low profile after the shootout at the King

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Speaker 1: sing at a party, he and Armando now had targets

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Speaker 1: on their backs from the murders the two youngsters had committed,

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Speaker 1: so they decided to leave Sinala behind. They made their

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Speaker 1: way to the US Mexico border. Teenage fugitives with a

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Speaker 1: couple of bodies in their names and a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of enemies in the United States, the Sanchez brothers would

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Speaker 1: eventually choose La as their new home. They would start

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Speaker 1: working for a local mob boss with no arms.

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Speaker 4: He migrated to La in nineteen seventy seven, and then

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Speaker 4: from there he started actually smuggling humans as a coyote.

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Speaker 1: It is said that he used to be a driver

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Speaker 1: for a drug trafficker.

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Speaker 10: That had something to do with some ladies that he

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Speaker 10: got mixed up with, and I think maybe the men

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Speaker 10: in their lives probably didn't like that he was coosing

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Speaker 10: up to them, and there was probably some narco tithes

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Speaker 10: too as well.

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Speaker 1: And this mysterious kingpin with no arms gives rise to

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Speaker 1: get another one of those Challino death theories. Rumor has

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Speaker 1: it that Challino had an eye on this kingpin's wife,

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Speaker 1: but I'll tell you that story on the next episode

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Speaker 1: of Idolo The Ballad of Challino Sanchez.

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Speaker 8: You know where Legrano no Lego back, Bully Rap, Yesterday

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Speaker 8: Lost Kings and.

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Speaker 6: Almost Pasa Ronda Salo play one Abola Basa and Consa

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Speaker 6: and Casa.

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Speaker 8: Con su Premier ramps Dolan as a coup, This.

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Speaker 5: Weather loss in.

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Speaker 11: Darima, Who Loos Company and Manolomna.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is written and reported by Eric G. Lindo,

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Speaker 1: Alejandro Mendoza and Juan Diego Ramirez. It's edited by Marlon

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Speaker 1: Bishop and Carmin Gratterol, with help from Rodrigo Crespo. It's

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Speaker 1: produced by Juande Ramirez and Leanna Ruiz, with help from

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Speaker 1: Nicole Rothwell, Even Rive and Angelina mash Salazar. Executive producer

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Speaker 1: for Sondo Media by Jasmine Rometo and Joshua Weinstein, for

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Speaker 1: Fotudo Studios by Marlon Bishop and for Sinmelo by Eric Galindo.

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Speaker 1: Sound designed and mix sing by Manuel Parra. Original music

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Speaker 1: by Hector Fernandez with the help of Alex Mendoza, Carmen Graterol,

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Speaker 1: Jazmine Rometo, myself, Eric Lindo and Juan Diego Ramirez. Performed

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Speaker 1: Special thanks to our fixer, Chewi Ayardo. I'm your host.

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Speaker 1: Eric Lindo's out