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Speaker 3: Oh it's time to bang.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the best damn combat sports show of all

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Speaker 4: time is back in your face hole and Luke Thomas

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Speaker 1: Ohio, Hey, it's Morning Combat. Fresh off of UFC three seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas. Everything's coming up, tup, Toria. But boy,

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Speaker 1: do we have a fantastic episode for you today. Break down?

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Speaker 1: What was I don't want to say life altering or

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Speaker 1: life saving pay per view for the UFC, but an injection,

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Speaker 1: a good hope, momentum, fun storyline, fun comments. We're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be fun, so we had that.

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Speaker 3: We also had.

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Speaker 1: Which will break out as well.

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Speaker 3: And they're also, yeah, it was a good night. I'll

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Speaker 1: He's in the post coilal cigarette mode. He's like it

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Speaker 1: was it was a good light. Yeah, I did one

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Speaker 1: say that told you guys, it's happening and it's coming.

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Speaker 1: But like it's a good light, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: there we go. Look enjoy this, okay, because your man

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Speaker 1: is the best. You might be the best in the work.

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Speaker 3: It's a debate.

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Speaker 1: Now this is Monday, June thirtieth, twenty twenty five. If

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Speaker 1: you're checking on your calendars, hope you guys are doing well.

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Speaker 1: We're old and washed, but we're here to tell you

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Speaker 1: the truth about combat sports, and that still matters, even

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Speaker 1: if they've compromised them in a media down to where

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Speaker 3: Luke, Well, I mean, if Oscar Willis has a good job,

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Speaker 3: you just know they're down to the fucking studs on

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Speaker 1: Looks like bad journalists. Great partier, it's kidding, kidding, Oscar,

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Speaker 1: Oscar's great, great fight.

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Speaker 3: He's also a bad party.

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Speaker 1: Great guy, by the way, Shout out to Oscar Willis, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Outside of the joy that Ilia Taporia has given you

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Speaker 1: tell America and beyond old you so bitch, beyond that, how.

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Speaker 3: Are you good? Actually? I have to tell you I

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Speaker 1: Oh you're you're now sitting to wipe like most normal human.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I stand like an absolute you know patriot.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's about freedom, that's about freedom.

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Speaker 3: No, And I told you this, I think probably maybe

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Speaker 3: It really really happened, and so I did. I was like,

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Speaker 3: And then last night I didn't get quite enough because

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Speaker 1: The tupooria effects took you to the level that you

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Speaker 1: purchased a Dana White Anheuser Busch Form Energy drink.

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Speaker 3: Now we're not sponsored by him, we're not. It is

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Speaker 1: The flavor is grape smash.

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Speaker 1: Is it like do not operate machinery, you may slap

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Speaker 3: A right, it smells, in fact like cheap grape.

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Speaker 1: Does it taste like gary Breca?

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Speaker 1: I love energy drinks, to your to your to your

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Speaker 3: Hey, who wants to taste of this? I have mouth?

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Speaker 3: sweeter than Mountain? How sweet is this? This is? Imagine

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Speaker 1: Huh Ain or Ola?

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Speaker 3: Coke Ola?

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Speaker 3: Point out he literally had to leave civilization in order

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Speaker 1: Time during three seventeen long island. Luke, how the hell

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Speaker 1: are you, brother?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing a lot better now that I caught up

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Speaker 6: on the fights, got to see what went down, had

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Speaker 6: a little fomo, but you know it's all right. Guys,

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Speaker 3: Did you get eaten up by mosquitos?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 6: I was actually pretty good. I did get a little

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Speaker 1: Can you tell Luke that so you brought a twenty

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Speaker 1: four rack and finished it in two and a half.

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Speaker 6: I bought a twenty four rack. There was three left

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Speaker 3: There how many people there was?

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Speaker 8: No that was just for me.

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Speaker 8: I drink about shooting.

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Speaker 3: What is the best shitty beer? Is it bud Light?

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Speaker 3: I feel like Miller Light is a better shitty shitty beer.

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Speaker 3: High I like high Life, Yeah, which makes no This

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Speaker 1: of anyway. How many bud Lights did you drink this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Would you have been able to finish a podcast on

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Speaker 6: I mean, I I don't know if you guys realize this.

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Speaker 1: You may see this fantastic piece of merch that I'm rocking.

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Speaker 1: By the way, can we put the damn camera on me?

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Speaker 1: We knew Ilia Taporia was great. He's better than we thought. So, Luke,

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Speaker 1: What did Ilia actually accomplish.

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Speaker 3: On Saturday night? All of that? And then I think

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Speaker 3: I'm being honest with you. But let's talk about the

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Speaker 3: how long did this last? This John Jones saga where

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Speaker 3: Also lick the backside of my balls and tell me

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Speaker 3: I don't know what will happen next. So he could

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Speaker 3: It's at least on par with some of those considerations.

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Speaker 3: If you are this far into your run, you're twenty

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Speaker 3: It is at least worth considering, not has he achieved

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking kill you, and then he does it.

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Speaker 1: long Islan Luke. If you can to show the results

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Speaker 1: of Charles and then those quotes around it, I'm very sorry.

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Speaker 3: It's score sacty cinema.

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Speaker 1: He delivered that, not with trash talk. He delivered that

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Speaker 1: with like candor, humble heart, like brother, I love you,

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Speaker 1: I respect you, but they made you sign up for this,

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Speaker 1: and I'm taking you out.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a hater of him.

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Speaker 1: As much as this sounds like gobble gobble, I'm more

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Speaker 1: in that post fight press conference that the UFC debuted,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that Toporia did meet some resistance from Olivera,

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Speaker 3: That that that throw he didn't get taken down.

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Speaker 1: Oh, ultimately ends up on his back after that scram no,

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Speaker 1: So as much as I want to have the conversation

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna doubt this guy Luke until he shows

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Speaker 1: all that that we can much, he's much better than Connor.

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Speaker 3: Well that too, I make guess Connor's bigger, But I'm saying, dude,

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Speaker 3: those fights were bigger than any of Taporia's fights just

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Speaker 3: I think two things I want to say, and I'd

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Speaker 3: To me, when he said pre fight, it's gonna go

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Speaker 3: But he clearly understands himself and his relationship to what

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Speaker 3: It's not I don't think he was just saying that,

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Speaker 3: He basically knew Charles was going to try a few things,

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Speaker 3: But you answered, you asked a specific example. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: Oh and don't forget that that jab that split the

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Speaker 3: His jabs were so powerful they were getting right through

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Speaker 3: Olivera's guard. But the point I wanted to make was

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Speaker 3: It sounds like nothing, but then you ask, well, why

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Speaker 1: And just you know, this whole idea of could this

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Speaker 1: seems true, Luke, And in mind you he trains in

436
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Speaker 1: his own house, in his own basement with his brother

437
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 1: as the trainer, and he left a team to do that,

438
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,239
Speaker 1: right like this is called Yeah, they are ahead of

439
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 1: the freaking game. And the comparisons to the breakout stardom

440
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 1: and some things are are comparable to Connor, but they're different.

441
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 1: But this side by side was interesting that people are

442
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: floating around. If you can show that of Connor putting

443
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 1: out Josialdo and then two Brazilians in the same exact

444
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 1: manner of knocking him down and then coming in with

445
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 1: the hammer punch, it's so significant.

446
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 3: There, that's so incredible to me, dude.

447
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,360
Speaker 1: They're different strikers, but you mentioned Topooria probably a better

448
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 1: well rounded fighter without questions, that.

449
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 3: Are significantly better wrestling and better power.

450
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Speaker 1: Even though people say that he copied his chest tattoo,

451
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 1: I probably, and he's been still Connor copying Connor's trash

452
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 1: talk on the head, I'm sure to Patty afterwards. But

453
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: holy shit, Luke, that.

454
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 10: Was just so fucking awesome, thorough awesome, decisive, exciting.

455
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: How great is it at this moment in time in

456
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Speaker 3: MMA to have anybody who can do this in the

457
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: fight game. Right now, you are watching somebody do something

458
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Speaker 3: that I'm telling you, in ten or twenty years, they're

459
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 3: going to be talking about long though.

460
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Speaker 1: Luke was playing back the replay of the finish, which

461
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,640
Speaker 1: UFC put up out for free on YouTube instantly, and it's,

462
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, approaching ten million.

463
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: I think it's passing now.

464
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Speaker 1: And you know, Joe Rogan lost his ship almost in

465
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 1: an unprofessional manner. You know, when the knockout happens, usually

466
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: the play by play guy steps and everybody else lays out.

467
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: Joe's just spewing words at like this monotone level, Like

468
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Speaker 1: I can't believe what if he did. He did, of

469
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: course he did, right, but like at the same time,

470
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: it was so I mean, would would you agree that

471
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Speaker 1: in the first minute of that fight, when when Oliver's

472
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Speaker 1: rushing him and then you saw to Pooria kind of

473
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: walk into that strike, he kind of had like, oh shit,

474
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: there is differences in size and wait and right here,

475
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Speaker 1: did you feel that like maybe he was up against

476
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Speaker 1: it early on.

477
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Speaker 3: Up against it? No, but definitely I recognize that. You know,

478
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 3: Olivera's Olavera is a good fighter. He's a really really

479
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 3: good fighter. Like he didn't lay down, he tried, He

480
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 3: tried stuff, he knew how to do, stuff that works

481
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: on just about anybody else.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just insane, just insane stuff. Afterwards though,

483
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: they let Patty in, and overall I love what they

484
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: did on Saturday, between the josh Van thing that we'll

485
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: get into and Patty coming in. Even if Patty's not

486
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: even your choice for the next opponent, and I'm not

487
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: even sure he's UFC's choice or Danish choice, we can

488
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: get into that. But look, I like that they were

489
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: willing to do this kind of stuff. Now you can

490
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Speaker 1: do it wrong, Like after Daniel Cormery defeated Derek Lewis,

491
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Speaker 1: and suddenly brock Lesner's in the cage and we're just

492
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Speaker 1: gonna forget that he popped for steroids and he's pushing

493
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, Cormier, and now we're gonna build to that

494
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: fight that never happened. There's ways you can do this wrong,

495
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 1: but them having a backstory Patty coming in. What do

496
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: you make of Dana afterwards being upset about it and

497
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: being like who led him in there? When it was

498
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: obviously Rogan who was calling for it and was like,

499
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: there's Patty, Patty.

500
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Speaker 3: Come on in, so hold on.

501
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Speaker 1: It makes me believe what we're always saying that Dana

502
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: is on the outsides of the decision making. Here he

503
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: is just the face on the microphone. Afterwards, I feel

504
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: like this was a choreographed move from the production team.

505
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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan Tko didn't feel like that.

506
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Speaker 3: I I don't know. So I talked to someone in

507
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: UFC last week and they told me that like Dana's

508
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: role in making sure like the way you see the product,

509
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: that's all Dana these very very production wise, like the

510
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: way if you're watching at home, I guess in person

511
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: as well, But if you're watching the fight.

512
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Speaker 1: And they did produce the third Canelo Crawford press conference

513
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: that looked UFC style, and it was it was fucking awesome,

514
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: Like that's his skill.

515
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Speaker 3: So like the way you see it, I'm told and

516
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Speaker 3: I was told this last week by UFC employee that

517
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 3: just looks like that that is done by Dana. So like,

518
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 3: on one level, he is obviously still very connected, but

519
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: they're to the point you raise, Okay, that can be true,

520
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 3: but then why is there this disconnect. I don't know

521
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: if it was Rogan's call. I checked the scene, I

522
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 3: went back and I looked again. He did have an

523
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: IFB in with a battery pack, so the production truck

524
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Speaker 3: had his ear. I have a feeling the production truck

525
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 3: can't tell you what to do, but the producer of

526
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: the show, in the production truck, they have a little

527
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Speaker 3: bit of authority to make something.

528
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Speaker 1: Might have TKO authority over their shoulders.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. So what I'm gonna say is, I

530
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Speaker 3: don't know if it means that Dana is losing control,

531
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: But what I will say is clearly other people in

532
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: the company have different ideas than him, and they should

533
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Speaker 3: compec That is a fact.

534
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Speaker 1: Dana didn't want to do Mayweather McGregor. It seemed like

535
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Speaker 1: Tko came over the top of that anytime. I mean,

536
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: Dana is showing us more and more almost there was

537
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: no you're right, same people, but you're right. I'm just

538
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: wondering if, like Ana's showing us that he's passed it,

539
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: not just the holding the bitter edge against and Ghanu,

540
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: but like being like, why the hell did this happen?

541
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Speaker 1: Either way, Luke, it was exciting. First, let me show

542
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: you some sound from Pa and then I'll get your

543
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: take on who should be next. But here's Patty talking

544
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: about that face off afterwards, and how big a fight

545
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: between these two meaning to Poria versus pimblet could actually be.

546
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Speaker 2: We've got a study known to me, and it's you

547
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: don't even need to like sell a fight. It sells itself.

548
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: Like two people who genuinely dislike each other. You don't

549
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: really get that. We haven't seen that since. Like it

550
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: could be even McGregor, right, two people who actually hates

551
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: each other because I hate him, you know what I mean.

552
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even want to finish him fast. I'd want

553
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: to finish him with a minute left in the fight

554
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: from seven tons of Times Pod.

555
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: Sure, that's the post fight show on the Plus. I

556
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: mean they could, they could, but that's not that's definitely

557
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: not on the broadcast. I avoid that at Will Luke.

558
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: It is interesting because I felt like Armnster, you can

559
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: should have gotten the fight on Saturday over Charles olivera

560
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: Dana did sort of do you hear Dana said in

561
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Speaker 1: the post fight presser when he was They asked if

562
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: he's upset it, sorry, you can easy holding him back,

563
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, he missed weight and his biggest opportunity,

564
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: so it's which.

565
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Speaker 3: He classified as one of the worst things you could do.

566
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Speaker 1: But I thought it was an we were told now

567
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: we're told the truth that he did miss weight behind

568
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Speaker 1: the scenes. We thought it was an illness or an

569
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Speaker 1: injury at the time that he pulled out.

570
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: So maybe what he meant was because of his situation,

571
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Speaker 3: he failed to even make it to weigh in. Yes,

572
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: in that sense, Well.

573
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Speaker 1: Let's be honest here, a fight against Patty unless you're

574
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Speaker 1: gonna fly on Connor McGregor. And I still think there's

575
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: a window to do that. If you really want to

576
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Speaker 1: pour you to.

577
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Speaker 10: Be the face of the Yes, so like, I'm not

578
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 10: against that just from the standpoint of you have someone

579
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 10: super special, put him in there with the all time

580
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 10: super special name to get that rub.

581
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Speaker 1: That's pro wrestling style matchmaking, which proven fact it works

582
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: in combat sports. Look at the history of Pride, like

583
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: how they did it there. But Luke, you can either

584
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: go Pimblet, which would be a fucking fantastic build and

585
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that want to see Patty

586
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: get handled like that. You could go Sir Yuki, which

587
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: is probably the best fight of the three. You could

588
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Speaker 1: go Gei Chee, which is marketable for the action potential,

589
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: even though he'd probably carve Gai Chee up and they

590
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: seem to tell him not to call out Islam and

591
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: we'll put that big super fight on the back burner.

592
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: What should be next for to Poory and his first

593
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: title defense at one fifty five and who do you

594
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: think will be next? Those are two separate question.

595
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: So if the top choice is if Islam is out

596
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: for obvious reasons, So you have three guys. You have

597
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: three guys. You have Gai Chie, you have Patty Pimblet,

598
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 3: and then you have Arminsar.

599
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: You can yep and Geige's threatening retirement, and Dana said

600
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Saturday post fight, if you're talking about.

601
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: Retirement people that one. It is so amazing to me

602
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: that these guys think that they can see. I respect

603
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 3: everyone respects Justin Gaigie's career, everybody including us, especially us,

604
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 3: But it is so unfucking believable to me that guys

605
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: think that they can say I mean maybe if he

606
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: just's saying it because that's the way he feels, but

607
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: there's no angle associated with it, which troke, you know,

608
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: trying to do reverse psychology and get and get the fight.

609
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: But I tend to think that there probably is some

610
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: reverse psychology that does. It's a fucking monopoly. They don't

611
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 3: care or else to say it. They don't care. They

612
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: don't care if you retire, they don't need, they don't

613
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: they don't give a flying fuck if you retire. They

614
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: don't care. So, okay, putting that aside, I think the

615
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: answer should be so Yuki, yeah, and I would accept Patty.

616
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: I'm actually a lot less interested in Justin Gaichee. Okay,

617
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: I think there are good fights for Justin Gaigee. So

618
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: for example, let's say they go Ilia Arman, then Patty

619
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: Gaigie to me is electric. I'm all in on that one.

620
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: But let me tell you why I'm picking it the

621
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 3: way I'm picking it. So are you kin to me?

622
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 3: I know what Dana White said, but you asked me

623
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 3: the question. Personally, he was the number one contender, and

624
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: to me, I did see someone bring this up to

625
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: me on my postfight show, and I'd like to repeat

626
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: it here, and I think they're right. Okay, they say,

627
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm not taking anything away from the volt Ko by

628
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: the way, everyone being like, oh, that's because of the

629
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: islam Ko. No, he would have gone down no matter what,

630
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: which is what I've been fucking saying to all of you.

631
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: But okay, putting that aside, he beats Max and then

632
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 3: he beats now OLIVERA time for him to fight someone

633
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: in his twenties. Agreed, Yeah, agreed. So that's why the

634
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: and the Arman shot that the title shot. I like

635
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: arm into Me, however, is the most interesting choice. Yes,

636
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: because his wrestling is so dominant and so consistent. He

637
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 3: can do it for long periods of time. And I

638
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: didn't see olivera necessarily overwhelmed to Poria, but I did

639
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: see him have to work for it.

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00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: So that that ties into the rightful question of whether

641
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: it is is welterweight a bridge too far potentially or

642
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: are there other lightweight title defense opportunities that could end

643
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: up being a physical bridge too far? Could Taporia end

644
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: up in trouble because remember Toaporia said, Olivera's kind of

645
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: tailor made for me. I want to have to chase him.

646
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: He'll come at me. That's exactly what happened.

647
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: I was right.

648
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: He knocked him the fuck out after some early adversity

649
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: or or at least resistance. Do you believe that that?

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Speaker 1: Not that it's matchup dependent? To Poria is great. He

651
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Speaker 1: might be the best in the sport, but even at

652
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Speaker 1: fifty five, are their potential traps.

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Speaker 3: For Yeah, so ar yuki in is one for sure,

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Speaker 3: that's a one. Patty to me is interesting not striking.

655
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: I think if they strike, he's gonna get his chin

656
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Speaker 3: sent into another dimension.

657
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Speaker 1: Don't get k I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet to Portia can test that theory. However, However,

659
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 3: he is big, He's fucking big, and his back taking

660
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: and back maintenance submissions guard these are all real threats.

661
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: These are things that could be real, real problems for Ilia.

662
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Speaker 3: And I definitely take that part of it seriously. With Gaetchee,

663
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Speaker 3: I just feel like it'd be a matter of time

664
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Speaker 3: before he got cracked and that would be that. So

665
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Speaker 3: those are the two choices asking. Beyond that, I guess

666
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Speaker 3: we'll have to see, but I don't. I don't. I

667
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: don't know aside from Islam and Patty, who I'm supposed

668
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Speaker 3: to be looking at now. I saw mac Maurcio McGregor.

669
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Speaker 3: It's a ceremonial McGregor would get stretched, but Ricio Hoofey

670
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: was out there talking a big game. Certainly on the

671
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: feet he gives me like real interesting vibes, but I

672
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: don't know about the rest of his game and his

673
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 3: takedown defense and blah blah blah. So right now, what

674
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say is there's a couple of guys I

675
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: think they could give him problems, but I don't. I

676
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Speaker 3: wouldn't pick any of them over Ilia right now.

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Speaker 1: I think it'd be a bad look to not do

678
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: the Patty fight next if you just did what they did,

679
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: which just hype it up and put him in there,

680
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: and it was fun hype up.

681
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Speaker 3: Maybe seriously, here's a theory of mine and not a theory,

682
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: just a I'm not saying this is true. I'm saying,

683
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Speaker 3: wouldn't it be interesting if there's like a rogue employee

684
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 3: in the production truck. It was like, we can't fucking

685
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: take this guy's decisions anymore. And then just He's like,

686
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: get Patty's fucking ass in there, and Rogan's like, let's

687
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 3: get Patty in here, you know what I mean.

688
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Like that man's name is Hunter Campbell.

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00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: That man's forcing his hand, you know what I mean.

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00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: And Hunter's got Arid and Shapiro in his ear, saying

691
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: make big matchups with trash talk. Let's do it how

692
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: we used to do. I mean, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's true, because it seems to be a TKO decision

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00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: too of late to not spend the money to promote

695
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: the big one. But everything to Pory will be a

696
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: part of moving forward, will be the big one. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope it is Patty next. Let's hear Familia he

698
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: did this Winner Circle. I don't know even what they

699
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: call it that UFC is now doing with the winner

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Speaker 1: of a pay per view main event. The podcast sit Down,

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00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: here's Eliot talking about what could be next.

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Speaker 3: Who do you want to face next.

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Speaker 11: If you can pick your opponent, who do you want

704
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Speaker 11: to see next?

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Speaker 1: I don't know right now. We don't have more legends

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Speaker 1: in the sport.

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Speaker 8: I think I think there might be one.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I would classify Justin Geegee as a legend,

709
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Speaker 12: and you have moved up to a division.

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Speaker 1: How long you know that?

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00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 12: Like, yes, Justin Geechee has done so much for the sport,

712
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 12: has so many incredible fights through future Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 12: I put him in the same regard as the three

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Speaker 12: people that you have just finished career.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Listen, you don't okay, I don't know who this

716
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Speaker 3: lady is that shouts to DC Sports legend Dan Helly.

717
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Speaker 3: I don't know who this lady is.

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Speaker 1: Are you making a ran against suffrage again?

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Speaker 3: That's you, motherfucker. I'm not going to kill her because

720
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: she seems like a nice person. That's an insane thing

721
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: to say that Justin Gaigie, who's never been a champion,

722
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Speaker 3: is on par with two of the best weight class

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Speaker 3: champions from featherweight ever, one of which who viciously ko

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Speaker 3: Justin Gaegee. The other one was number one pound for pound, is.

725
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: A former interim and be a m F champion, though

726
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Speaker 1: I want, like.

727
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: I respect his career, but it is absolutely not on

728
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: par with the other two guys, not even close.

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Speaker 1: All Right, do you think they will explore the Connor idea?

730
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Speaker 3: You know what?

731
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: Because have you seen the ship clip of Connor training

732
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: on a beach coming up?

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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gonna say this. It's cynical and

734
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think the result would be mysterious, but

735
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: it would. It would give to Poria and therefore the

736
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: sport itself such a boost yep, that I could I

737
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: could understand it, even though, first of all, but I

738
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: don't need to see Connor at all. Connor is like

739
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: a terrible person, right, he's a horrible guy. But you know,

740
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Speaker 3: if you wanted to make the best business decisions.

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Speaker 1: You're willing to make a star and literally put the

742
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: rocket pack on his back.

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Speaker 3: Hard to know what would be the like, what's a

744
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: faster way to do it than that? Not sure what

745
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: the answer is?

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Speaker 1: Islam maybe, But my final question is this, And by

747
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: the way, it's interesting that we're really not talking about

748
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: Islam when I still think that's the super fight of

749
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: all super fights because it's the number one and two

750
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: in the world, however, you have them right now. But

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00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: let's see if Islam. It looks like Islam could be

752
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: NYC this fall against Jack Della. Let's see what happens there.

753
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens with Ilia first in this division.

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00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: But you and I differ often on the amount of

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00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: milk boy type money that's put in a brown paper

756
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: bag and left in the locker room for different people.

757
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: And I am happy by the way that they gave

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00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: Brandon Royvaal his win show d bonus for his preventation

759
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: that loss. And we'll get into it. What do you

760
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: think Toporia took home from this victory? But like, is

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00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: it when all bonuses and things are added up in

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00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: pay per viewpoints? Is it five to ten million?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna say in the five to seven million

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00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: range because he's only recently really started headlining pay per views.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know what this one would have sold.

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00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: Because remember the problem that to Poria has is he

767
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: had a very at least for the hardcore fans. He

768
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: had a well known, loved opponent, but he didn't have

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00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: a guy who, like the casual American fans knew, which

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00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: is relevant because pay per view buys boost your dollars.

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00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: And there has been let's just call it what it is.

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: There's been a little bit of reluctance around to Poria

773
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: because he's walking out at the press conference and the

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00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: fight and the smattering of booze. They haven't quite accepted

775
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: him yet. And what I'm hoping for the sports interest

776
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 3: is if we can get over that and lift this guy,

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00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: he can take us to places we haven't been to

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00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 3: in fucking years.

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00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: Well, one of those places that would be great, it'd

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Speaker 1: be Spain. And this is why people are ripping Dana.

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00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: He opened up the postfight press conference when asked about

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Speaker 1: taking Elia to Spain next and was sort of like, oh, no,

783
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: it's difficult, it's hard.

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00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: Whatever.

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00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: Later in the same press conference, Luca reporter said, Hey,

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00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: did you see that the numbers coming out of Spain

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00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: are that Taporia is doing numbers on the same level

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00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: as Nadal and Tennis and other things like that, And

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00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: Dane was like, wait what really?

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00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: And F one and Real Madrid and then sucking Real

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Speaker 3: Madrid game.

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00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: Okay, But now suddenly Dana almost changes tune in that conversation,

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00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: which again leads you to believe that Dana is not

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: truly involved in these conversations that it's more Hunter and TKO.

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00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: So Luke, here's my optimism hope here that Dana doing

796
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: Canelo Crawford in Allegiance Stadium and doing a dome which

797
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: he hates doing, will open them up to how important

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00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: it is when you have fights on that level, to

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Speaker 1: do cultural events out a dome where it's not about

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00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: the experience of the user as much, it's just about

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00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: the people just want to be in the building for

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00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: this big thing you really want to make Taporio star

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00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: put them in a dome with Connor, or go to

804
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: Spain or like, do shit like that. I'm hoping TKO

805
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: is looking at the dollar sign potential in that and

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00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: is willing to do big shit and maybe go Okay,

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Speaker 1: Danna stay over here in you're late.

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Speaker 3: I just want to tell you, like, this is what

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00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: you could understand about TKO's priorities is if they they'll

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00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 3: allow their company to be rented by a dictatorial government

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Speaker 3: in Azerbaijan before they take a event to Spain to

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Speaker 3: rally behind the biggest transcendendent or potentially transcendent star that

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00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: they've had since arguably Connor McGregor that just tells you

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00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: what they're a priority.

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Speaker 1: Aren't you hoping in some way that if they did

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00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: go to the Connor direction, so you'report that they went

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00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: full tkoww and did the global press tours and made

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00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: this like one of the biggest trash talk builds that

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Speaker 1: we've seen.

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Speaker 3: I think they can and they should, and if they did,

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Speaker 3: I think they'd do a good job. I'm just telling

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00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 3: you it's nonsense that they can't go to Spain. Yeah,

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00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 3: before it was, because it's just it's absolutely ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I have get to pay back Luke.

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00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: I think he well fine, but the way which they've

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean just to be able to rent your business

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Speaker 3: to the world's most authoritarian governments before you got You've

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00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: got to dude, how many guys come around seventeen and

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00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: oh like this in your fight watching life. You can

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00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: count them on one fucking hand. And they can't take

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Speaker 3: him back to a place where they have I mean,

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Speaker 3: can we say. I don't know much about Spain, but

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00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: I know that from everything I can tell, they have

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Speaker 3: only embraced him and that market more, by the way,

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Speaker 3: seems to be heating up in ways that is ridiculous

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Speaker 3: to observe this if if in boxing, they would take

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Speaker 3: this guy to Spain and he would become a national

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: icon over fucking night there more than he already is,

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Speaker 3: which would help him, I think, propel him to being

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Speaker 3: a global superstar.

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Speaker 1: Let's close the Taporia discussion with this incredible video of

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Speaker 1: Sean O'Malley and his team watching the fight live. Here

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Speaker 1: is Sugars reaction.

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Speaker 3: I saw this, Holy fu.

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Speaker 11: Two, holy fun Islam versus Tapouri, and he's happened.

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00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 6: He's up there with John Jones knocked out, Bolt knocked out,

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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 6: Max knocked out Charles.

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Speaker 3: I want to say, holy fun.

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Speaker 1: Who would even fight night?

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Speaker 8: Holy fuck again?

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Speaker 1: Thank god he didn't accept my call out. He probably

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00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 1: went down scene reveal right there right like holy shit.

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00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you that was very funny.

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Speaker 1: I like it.

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Speaker 3: It was real. All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's transition too, topic number two. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: to get into today. We don't want to talk all

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00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: about Toporia because UFC three seventeen's comin event allowed us

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00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: another opportunity to celebrate thirty five year old Alexandre Pantosia,

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00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: who successfully had the fourth defense of his flyweight title,

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00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: who continues to get better with age like a fine wine,

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00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: submits Kaikr France in the third round, largely complete domination

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00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: except for a closer round two where it felt like

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00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Pantosia was taken just a bit of the foot off

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Speaker 1: the gas and saving up some energy for more grappling.

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Speaker 1: But Luke, what he did on Saturday was impressive when

867
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: you talk about statistics and how much further he's moving

868
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: into flyweight history. He broke first place ties in three

869
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: categories and flyweight history extending past the likes to me

870
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: as Johnson, Joseph Benavidez, and Devison Figuredo for most wins,

871
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: most submissions, and most finishes at one hundred and twenty

872
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: five pounds. Pantojia told the media that he believes he

873
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: should be pound for pound number two after this and

874
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: is demanding more respect. Luke, from the standpoint of late

875
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: career renaissances, how impressive is it what Pantosia is doing

876
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: at the age of thirty five in the sports smallest division,

877
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: in which he's becoming more efficient with age and title

878
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: defense and just more dangerous across the board. I don't

879
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: know if there's historical comparison directly to what he's doing right.

880
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: Now, I think of the comparison to DJ is. I mean,

881
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: there's meaningful differences along the way, but there's also, frankly,

882
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: a lot of similarities. DJ was when he was in

883
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: WEC fighting at Bansamway. Everyone respected him obviously right away.

884
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: The nickname Mighty Mouse kind of catches your attention. It's

885
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: a great nickname, obviously, But I gotta tell you, when

886
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: he was in WEC and after he fought Miguel Torre,

887
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: there was nobody who was like, oh, he's going to

888
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: go on to be one of the best fighters ever.

889
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: That didn't happen. He was something of an accident. Very

890
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: very good, very respected, but you didn't know exactly how

891
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 3: far that was going to go. Remember in the beginning

892
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 3: of the flyweight tournament where there was him Ian McCall. Yes,

893
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: I hear Udushatani all this. He didn't perform all that

894
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: well in the first fight, right there was this whole

895
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: thing so like to me, Pantoja actually is kind of

896
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: cut from a pretty similar cloth.

897
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but DJ was much closer to his late twenties

898
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: prime when that happened. This man's thirty five. I won

899
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: the title, and we thought he'd give it up next time.

900
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: We thought that was the career Bizpeing's moment.

901
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: So that's why this is to me somewhat more surprising,

902
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 3: is because you're right. Athletically, DJ was in a slightly

903
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: different place at that time, and you even heard Pantojia

904
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: reference it in the post fight interview with Rogan. He

905
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: keeps working on his craft, he keeps getting better, he

906
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: keeps skill building, and every time it's not necessarily huge leaps,

907
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: but he adds a little bit in the striking. And

908
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: by the way, shouts to Jack Slack, who noted analyst

909
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: who has been kind of harping on this point, and

910
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 3: he's right. There's something called a crab ride. Imagine someone

911
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 3: takes your back to put the hooks over a crab

912
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 3: rise when they go the other way behind the knees.

913
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: Other guys use it in the game. He's not the

914
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 3: only one, but Pantojia is one of these guys who

915
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: uses the crab ride consistently to score the back and

916
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: secure the back, which, by the way, he served him

917
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: valuably in this fight against Kai Kar France. So I'm

918
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: not calling him some gigantic innovator BC. What I am

919
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: saying is because he has so many internal characteristics of grit, determination, perseverance,

920
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: and appreciation for the finer points of jiu jitsu, technical savvy,

921
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: but also marries it with savagery. It took him a

922
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 3: while to build to this, but you can see all

923
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: of the ingredients to get to this place have always

924
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: been there. He just had to dial it all.

925
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: Until he's paying more money now for training camps because

926
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: he's coming in in right.

927
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 3: That the guy was a fuck I mean again, we've

928
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: talked about it. The guy is a professional athlete having

929
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: to do uber eats. Yeah, you know that he was

930
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: didn't have enough money or distracted.

931
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: I know that grind.

932
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: Well I'm saying, but you know what I mean, Like,

933
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: we're not bashed in the grind. We're saying, if you're

934
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: a professional athlete, this is not how you should be

935
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: spending your time. Yes, now, now look at this now,

936
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: without all, without pop do we talk about it all

937
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 3: the time, poverty and how much it limits the scope

938
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: of human potential. And this guy to me seems like

939
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: one of the sort of the bigger poster boys for

940
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: this argument.

941
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Well, now he's eating and look at the eating of

942
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: the competition. Look at the can you throw to that

943
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: full screen. Uh, this was a tweet showing his resume

944
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: his accomplishments. Uh, thirty MMA wins never been stopped by

945
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: the way, some people say is the longest streak of

946
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: never having been stopped in being a UFC champion.

947
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 3: I have to double check that. I'm not sure about.

948
00:43:54,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: That, including victories against twice Brandon Moreno, Manel Cop twice,

949
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Royval alex Press, Steve Verseeg, Kai Osakura, Kai Car France.

950
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: He entered this calendar year nine to zero against the

951
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: top ten in this division. Look, this was absolutely incredible.

952
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what he's putting together. Here's Pantoja

953
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: making his case that he should get more pound for

954
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: pound respect. You know, by the way between to what

955
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: Toporia did, the pound for pound could change a lot,

956
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: especially with Jones leaving. Here's Pantoja.

957
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 3: I think most people agree that you need to be

958
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 3: a little higher in the pound for pound rankings. Do

959
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: you have a spot that you feel.

960
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: He belong me?

961
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 3: Is it number one? Or do you be like, well,

962
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: maybe this up behind on us.

963
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: It's gonna makes sense if I'm not then number two,

964
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 5: I'm just behind off of the You know, that's no

965
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 5: make sense. Five fights for title, eight victories in streak,

966
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 5: second submission, four title defense numbers. Don't lie, brother, you know,

967
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 5: the only guy accept that he's a chef because he

968
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 5: have the numbers.

969
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: You know.

970
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 5: I I try to understand their pound for pound rankings.

971
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 5: I think maybe it's the more victories, Maybe it's victories

972
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 5: with the ranking guys. Maybe it's I don't know, the

973
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 5: guys need thinking. I need beating me someone to like

974
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 5: a You put a Jack Madeleine in the front of me.

975
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 5: You think I need to beat Madeleina together that his position?

976
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 5: That's crazy, you know. Uh, I think it's time to

977
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 5: respect more flyweight. You know, like I said josh Evan Bernove,

978
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 5: maybe the fight of the night tonight, I make a

979
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: very good fight with the Kai Kar France. I think

980
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: that it's time to people start to change his mind.

981
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: You know.

982
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 5: The flyweight is very entertainment, uh division, you know, and

983
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 5: I think it starts.

984
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: I think, Look, I'm gonna be updating my CBA Sports

985
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Top ten tomorrow. I know you're not a huge pound

986
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: for pound guy, but I am interested in hearing how

987
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: you would rank your own top five if we consider

988
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: your options are Ilia Pantosia because dupless See who am

989
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: I missing? There in the potential fifth spot? Those five guys,

990
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: how would you order that?

991
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: Right now? I have to think about it a little bit.

992
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: I probably go.

993
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 1: Because Morab was number three on my list entering this week,

994
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: and yes.

995
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: I would, I have to I have to think about

996
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: this a little bit. I probably go Islam or Ilia

997
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: number one.

998
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: The other one number two right there, one and two, so.

999
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: They're one and two, and then I would probably go.

1000
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: Has Pantosia eclipse Morob, who's also on a frickin hull

1001
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: hell of a.

1002
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: Run right now. I don't know, what do you think?

1003
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: Where are you?

1004
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: Those five right there? Are are I'm not going to

1005
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: say all five have a case for number one. They

1006
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: don't think. I think Ili and Islam are fighting for that.

1007
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: But however you order them, it's difficult decision because they're

1008
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: all on their own runs of beating decorated champions right now.

1009
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: So he made a great argument. You look at his

1010
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: resume and that full screen, the idea that he could

1011
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: be third right now. Maybe he does demand more respect.

1012
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: It's just so crowded right there, really fricking is one

1013
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: more quick video of Pantosia. There was some talk about

1014
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: him maybe getting a super fight with Morob and he

1015
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: come out this week and said he doesn't want it.

1016
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: He met Morob backstage and this is what he said.

1017
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: So he wants to stay in the division. They brought

1018
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: in Josh Van. That's our next topic to talk about.

1019
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: This breakthrough performance from Van. But he's ready to take

1020
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: on all comers. He wants to stay at one twenty five.

1021
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: Let's see, that's one question he can go.

1022
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, but go ahead, Well before

1023
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 3: he gets a Van, Well, yeah.

1024
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to Van. I wanted to ask you

1025
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: at Pantosia. Sure, I was on the I was in Stanford,

1026
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: Connecticut saurday night at cb A Sports HQ on the

1027
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: desk with our buddy Hakeem Dirmish and Danny Valanti, the

1028
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: betting analyst to call himself Danny Brascow. Shout out to

1029
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: Danny Brasco. He said on air, he said, I know

1030
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: about DJ's eleven title defenses. He goes with this run

1031
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: Pantosa is on right now. I think he's the greatest

1032
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: flyway I've ever seen. I told him on air to

1033
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: wash his mouth off and put some respect on the

1034
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: mounts his name. But Luke, I don't think Pantosia thirty

1035
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: five is gonna catch DJ or anyone might for the

1036
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: title defenses. Right, well, is there any chance he is

1037
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: on a run to becoming the goat at one twenty five?

1038
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: I think he'd have to do a little bit more work.

1039
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: But he's done some pretty great things. So let's talk

1040
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: about this. This is the run he's referencing. So first

1041
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 3: of all, he loses two dominant Cruz that was in DC.

1042
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 3: Then he has the Ian McCall draw, which.

1043
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: You were talking about, Demetrius Johnson, and again.

1044
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: The Cruise fight was obviously a thirty five, So his

1045
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: first fight at one twenty five is a draw essentially

1046
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: in March of twenty twelve. He then beats Ian McCall

1047
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 3: by decision. Again, that's a very good win. Then he

1048
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: beats Joseph Benavidez by split decision. That's a very good win.

1049
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: Then he beats John Dotson. People are going to undercount

1050
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: that win. That's a fucking very good win, all right,

1051
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: So he's got three of those in a row. John

1052
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: Maraga not as good. Joseph Benavitez again, he Chao's him,

1053
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: very good win, Ali bako Utinov who was probably on

1054
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: gear at the time, and.

1055
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: That Benavidez was the one where they said, oh, he

1056
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: doesn't have power, he's boring, and.

1057
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: Then Chaos him flat. Yeah in the first round, I believe.

1058
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: Then he goes to Chris Cariasso again not that good

1059
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 3: of a win. Koji Horgucci throws him up in the

1060
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: air and armbars and in the fifth very good win.

1061
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: John Dotson again good win. Henry Shudo stops him with

1062
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: strikes in the in the first round, very good win.

1063
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: Tim Elliott was big, so the name doesn't carry, but

1064
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: he was a fucking gigantic flight way.

1065
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: He won the tough tournament.

1066
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: Give credit. Yeah, Wilson Hayes uh or maybe ray Borg

1067
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: was the one who got Armbard by throwing him in

1068
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: the air and it was but but but horror. Gucci

1069
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: also got arboard. Pardon me sorry, hold on. So then

1070
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: he beats Wilson Hayes very good jiu jitsu black belt,

1071
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: but not much else, and then he beats ray Borg

1072
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 3: in the most incredible fashion. There are some weak spots

1073
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: in the resume. No one's resume is perfect. No one's

1074
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: is good. That's that's a very good fucking resume.

1075
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: Jay's upper room top five in a lot of people's

1076
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: minds all time, so too.

1077
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: Benefitez wins the McCall win, the two dots and wins

1078
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Speaker 3: the Hory Gucci wins.

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Speaker 1: Get there. I don't think you can get there, but

1080
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: this is impressive as ship. But I don't think you

1081
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: can get there.

1082
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: I think, I think to me, is Pantojia there yet? No?

1083
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 3: Could he get there? Possibly? What I am gonna say though, is,

1084
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 3: first of all, thirty five curse has not been shattered twice.

1085
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: But the point I'm trying to make here is the

1086
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 3: fact that we're even in a conversation about like is

1087
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 3: he close? Was unfathomable after DJ left the UFC. It's

1088
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be forever before someone at one twenty

1089
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: five even gets approximately close. Well, now it is here.

1090
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 3: He is at least approximately close, very very impressive.

1091
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: Quickly to close here KKF. He didn't provide much resistance

1092
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of those Pantosia's doing. Kai car France is

1093
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: also now twelve career defeats, but we don't tend to

1094
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: count that against people, even though he's still in his

1095
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: physical prime, but he's lost three of his last four.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: I got long Ise Luke in my ear telling me

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00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: that Albozi split decision. You know, should have gone the

1099
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: other way. He's lost three of four, and Luke, I

1100
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: get the heritage, I get honoring his people. I get that,

1101
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: But can we show the picture? I'm done with this.

1102
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm done with this?

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00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: Okay? Why is everyone so mad at this? I saw

1104
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 3: people online saying a bunch of stupid shit about this one.

1105
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not I get that.

1106
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: People.

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00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Every time the cameras on them, like when he does this,

1108
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: that's cool as shit. Every time the cameras on him,

1109
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: the tongue comes out doing the.

1110
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: Thing, it's like, do you know why he's doing that?

1111
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I know he's honoring his It's just like, you.

1112
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: Know, specifically, why is he doing me? No, here's the thing.

1113
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: I don't like it or hate it. I have no.

1114
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: It doesn't do one thing for me or the other.

1115
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: But my kind of view on this is you sound

1116
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 3: like my toddler who like, oh, I don't like broccoli,

1117
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: and I'm like, but you don't. You've never eaten it.

1118
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: You're not in a position to decide Okay, why.

1119
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: It's weird?

1120
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 3: Okay, why is it weird?

1121
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: What are we doing here? Look, I think I can

1122
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: leave it at that.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'm gonna say. There's a lot of people

1124
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: who are like, deeply in curious about the world who've

1125
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: decided that they don't like things. Let me, that is

1126
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: exactly what that conversation is. It's people looking at cultural

1127
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: elements they don't know shit about them, and then deciding

1128
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: that they're bad because you are ignorant about it. And now, listen,

1129
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 3: do I like that? It doesn't do anything for me.

1130
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: If he stopped tomorrow, fine, if you kept going, fine,

1131
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 3: it doesn't It doesn't move me. But if you're going

1132
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 3: to decide listen, just because you know things doesn't mean

1133
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna like it either. All I'm asking is, before

1134
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: you decide that someone's display of cultural heritage is annoying

1135
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 3: to you, you should probably have a decent understanding of

1136
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: what it actually is.

1137
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: I'll do more research and I'm gonna guess that my

1138
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 1: conclusion would be the same.

1139
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 3: But you know what, then fine, fine, fine, I don't.

1140
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: Think he deserved this title shot. I know that there

1141
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: was like you know, this is a dominant champion on top,

1142
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: and he had beaten everybody else in that top ten.

1143
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: He hadn't fought kay Carr Frience. I know that kay

1144
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: car Fence had shown flashes in the past getting into

1145
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: an interim title shot with Marino being up on the

1146
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: cards until he got stopped, But like, this pretty disappointing

1147
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: performance altogether, right, all things considered.

1148
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: You know, it was funny Long Island Luke was saying

1149
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 3: about the main event. It was like, oh, kind of

1150
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 3: went as expected, which is you know, again the odds

1151
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: makers kind of nailed it to me. This one kind

1152
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: of went as expected a little bit. Not that second round.

1153
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: I thought he had a decent second round. It wasn't

1154
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: a terrible second round, but you know, it was one

1155
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: thing that was kind of interesting, right, which was I

1156
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 3: had you know, we all thought there was some mention

1157
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: ahead of time. Hey, kaykr France has improved his takedown defence,

1158
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 3: which if you look at the wrestling takedowns along the fence,

1159
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: he actually did do a pretty good job when it

1160
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: was traditional wrestling. But dude, Pantoja's got back exposure, crab ride,

1161
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: all different kinds of tricks that he uses, Casoto hooks,

1162
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: you name it, it's a different ballgame, and and he

1163
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: was totally outmatched in that regard. And how about this,

1164
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: He's like blitzing into Kai car France who's retreating, and

1165
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: then he's kicking the legs and he kicks the legs

1166
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: right out from under him.

1167
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you forget the feeling that this is

1168
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: kkf's top point in his rides that I mean, I mean,

1169
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: you don't get much to say in the title, but like,

1170
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: I think he goes downward from here.

1171
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: He's had a number of opportunities to step up the

1172
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: Brandon Moreno fight, which by the way, he was doing

1173
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: real well in until he gets kicked in the ribs

1174
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: and that kind of closed the show. He's very talented,

1175
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 3: but he has had multiple opportunities to step up the

1176
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 3: next tier and has been left wanting every time. I

1177
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: think we've kind of know what we got at this point.

1178
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about what we got in topic

1179
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: number three, and that was Joshua van Out dueling number

1180
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: one contender, Number one Ray to contender Brandon royval On

1181
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: just a three week turnaround from his last fight at

1182
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: UFC three to sixteen to now leap frog the division,

1183
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: secure what seems to be the next title shot, and

1184
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: get a face off after the cold made event with

1185
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: Pantoja in the cage. This is just two years and

1186
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: five days after his UFC debut, where the twenty three

1187
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: year old improved to eight in one in the octagon,

1188
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: improving that the future of the flyweight division is very

1189
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: much right freaking now. It was an absolute war of

1190
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: attrition against Royval. Van took the kind of chance in

1191
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: accepting this fight that could have ended in danger or

1192
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: stunted his growth. Instead, he withstand the storm, landed the

1193
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: better countershots, dropped Royval twice in the closing minute of

1194
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: round three, and gets this opportunity. It doesn't look like

1195
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: kill eclipse John Jones' record of the youngest UFC champion,

1196
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: which was twenty three years and a eight months, because

1197
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: right now Rah Joshua Van is at twenty three years

1198
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: and nine months. But Luke, how much of a shot

1199
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: after what he did to Brandon Royval and what he

1200
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: would stood and this run he's on knocking out Bruno

1201
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: Silva three weeks ago. If we can show that face

1202
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: off one more time, how much of a shot are

1203
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: you actually giving him to compete for this championship. He

1204
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: was the slight betting favorite against Royvall. Even though we

1205
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: feared too much too soon, he proved it wasn't. This

1206
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: was as refreshing as something I've seen in a long

1207
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: time to see a kid earn it like this on

1208
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: this stage and look at him now, face to face

1209
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: with a legend. Is he in this fight when they

1210
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: when they make this, is this a legitimate threat for

1211
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: the championship here?

1212
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 3: I think it is? Yep. I have mixed feelings about

1213
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 3: this one.

1214
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: About the fight against royval.

1215
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, well the showdown with Pantojiak And on the

1216
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 3: one hand, dude like Josh Van is amazing. Dude seven

1217
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: times six times this year, seven times in the last

1218
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 3: eighteen months. Some insane love of consistency. Now all the winning,

1219
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: but most of it winning.

1220
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: He's fought nine times in the last years.

1221
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: It's absurd.

1222
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: It's two years and five days to his UFC debut.

1223
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: He's eight and one.

1224
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 3: He graduated high school just before the pandemic. Like, what

1225
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 3: the fuck are we talking? It's unbelievable. But what I

1226
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: wanted to point out was he's one of these situations

1227
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: BC where I'm not sure if he's doing his career

1228
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 3: correctly for the long haul. So he's obviously good enough

1229
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 3: now to beat number one contender Brandan Reuvell convincingly.

1230
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: By the way, what is what what convincingly mean?

1231
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 3: Reuvil rescued himself with a better effort in that second round.

1232
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: Yes, but well, Josh the knockdowns a round three secured

1233
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: two to one. Yes, but it was a tight fight

1234
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: that could have gone either way up until the final

1235
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: you know, minute and a half left and round three.

1236
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I guess what I mean is if you just

1237
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 3: look at the weapons Van used on him, they never

1238
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 3: really changed. He kept landing the same ones over and

1239
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: over again.

1240
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: Count right hand just bombed.

1241
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: There was a left hooky, County he had too. But

1242
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: so it's like, he's obviously good enough, And I gotta say,

1243
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: I'm not going to complain about the UFC trying to

1244
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 3: promote a fight. On the other hand, one twenty five

1245
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 3: is a week they're trying to force feed contenders as

1246
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: fast as they can up there. He's competing a lot

1247
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: his style. Naturally, he absorbs over five strikes per minute,

1248
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: which is absor double the average. Can we just show

1249
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: he's gonna speed run like if he's twenty eight, twenty nine,

1250
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 3: and he looks like a shell of himself, remember this conversation,

1251
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: because he's shortening his career doing show, but he's.

1252
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: Doing incredible things. Let's look at the output of roy

1253
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: Vall here. This is an Aaron brownstitter tweet. 'reva officially

1254
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: attempted four hundred and seven significant strikes in a nine

1255
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: hundred second fight. That's won per every one point nine

1256
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: to two seconds. It sets a record for the most

1257
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: significant strike attempts in a three round fight in UFC history.

1258
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: It's a higher attempts output per round than even when

1259
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: Max Holloway was dancing around Calvin Cator for those five rounds. Luke,

1260
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: I have to ask this question. Though I love the

1261
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: raw dog Brandon roy Vall, I was cheering for him

1262
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: in a sense. You know, he was he was plus money,

1263
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: the underdog despite being the number one contender, and really

1264
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: the only fact that he'd already lost twice to Pantosia

1265
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: was sort of holding him back from getting into the

1266
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: truly into a title shot again. And I respect that

1267
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: he was willing to leave it all on the line

1268
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: in the UFC rewarded him for that performance but how

1269
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: much was his extreme lack of head movement defense or

1270
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: any idea of getting off that center line. His defense

1271
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: was his offense. Every time Van landed a big shot,

1272
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: Roy Vault came right back with a combination and dude up.

1273
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: Until a minute and a half left in this fight,

1274
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: I felt like it was whoever's going to have the

1275
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: last big sequence is going to win this fight. Looking back,

1276
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: there was zero commitment to defense or doing anything but

1277
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: straight line attacks, letting it all go. I'm going to

1278
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: go through this kid and break him until he didn't

1279
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: and he got dropped late.

1280
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: I want to tell you by the way, he got

1281
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: dropped when he was standing on one leg after a knee.

1282
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: So it's not like I'm not saying the punch wasn't

1283
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 3: real or good or awesome, but partly the reason why

1284
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 3: he went down is because he was off balance.

1285
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: I get the commitment to want of breaking the kid

1286
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: and just saying being like, no matter what, I'm going

1287
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: to get back to the title level. But what role

1288
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: did that play? Just the extreme lack of defense, and

1289
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean he was right there to be hit.

1290
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: But what fight would you say he showed tremendous striking

1291
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: defense in.

1292
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: He's usually better at controlling the distance. He'll put himself

1293
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: in the he's the same. It's a high volume guy.

1294
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: But look, there was an over commitment to violence here

1295
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: that opened the door for Van to consistently land the

1296
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: same countershots, and it was because Van was the bigger puncher. Ultimately, look,

1297
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: Van at twenty three has to be able to bite down,

1298
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: has to be able to make the adjustments like he did.

1299
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: I thought Van showed better movement to evade at times,

1300
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: and Roy vault, to his credit, whenever there's an opening,

1301
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 1: he stepped in with two, three four punches. But Luke,

1302
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: he walked in face first and down coming trast So

1303
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a couple of problems.

1304
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: The first is that Josh Van's just a better striker

1305
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: who is like tailor, made to take advantage of a

1306
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: guy like this, and that's a lot of what you saw.

1307
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: The second thing, though, is a little bit more interesting

1308
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: to me. It looks to me like josh Van obviously

1309
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: tremendous boxer, tremendous accuracy, great combination work, the whole nine yards,

1310
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: but it looks to me like he lacks a little pop,

1311
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: like he lands on guys pretty consistently flush and it

1312
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 3: takes him a little while to put him out, So

1313
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 3: I think there might be a power punching issue. So

1314
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 3: it looked to me like raw Dog made a deal

1315
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 3: with himself, which was I'm just gonna walk forward because

1316
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: if I just stand here at range and try and

1317
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 3: set it up, he's just gonna pick me up.

1318
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: Part we need more kicks from range though, fair enough.

1319
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 3: Fine. What I'm saying is he elected to kind of

1320
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 3: take one to give one, because that enabled him to

1321
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: find Josh Van in front of him more consistently. Van

1322
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 3: Van would land like a two punch hard combination, but

1323
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: not move and that was weybll had to eat it.

1324
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: But now he can fire back as a consequence. So

1325
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: I do wonder about the punching power of Van. He's

1326
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: just twenty three. He hasn't even really grown into his

1327
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 3: man strength yet. Might be an issue against Pantoja. Could

1328
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 3: he land on Pantoja? I'm sure, But if you can't

1329
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 3: put Pantoja out, good fucking luck on round.

1330
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: I guess I'm asking you is if Royval had had

1331
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: had a little bit more variety in this and a

1332
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: little bit more commitment to not being right in the

1333
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 1: strike zone. Would this fight have gone differently? Or are

1334
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: you saying he would have lost? That's how it would

1335
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: have gone differently?

1336
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: Did say that again?

1337
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: If Royval wasn't as willing to just throw himself consistently

1338
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: at Van and be right there encountering range, would the

1339
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: fight have gone different? Does Royval kick himself?

1340
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 3: He would stopped?

1341
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: Should he have shot more?

1342
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: Oh? Oh, he should have shot more. Yeah, I'm saying

1343
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 3: if he had fought round one the whole way through

1344
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 3: like that, he would have been stopped in around two

1345
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: or maybe early round three.

1346
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, should Royvall fought from distance more and

1347
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: Ben Moore and been a little bit smarter, would he

1348
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: have won the fight that way?

1349
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: With what weapons kicks?

1350
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: The volume? He's a volume guy. You know that he's

1351
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: gonna outwork.

1352
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: You, dude. You can't just be like, okay, all right.

1353
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 1: I don't think he gets hit with this with as

1354
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: many hard countershots as he's not right there with his

1355
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: hands down and not moving his head, is what I'm saying.

1356
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: Yes, I think there are better ways he could have

1357
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 3: fought longer range and longer range weapon. Yes, I have

1358
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 3: a feeling that wouldn't have saved him. Okay, that's kind

1359
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: of where I'm at.

1360
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: Fight of the Year contender.

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01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, Long Island.

1362
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: Look you correct me if I'm wrong. You were camping,

1363
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: everyone's about to go to sleep. It's midnight. You're a

1364
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: mile away from any form of Wi Fi. You walk

1365
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: to a closed general store to activate the Wi Fi

1366
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: that they have in there to watch round three of

1367
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: this fight, and you walk into an absolute brawl.

1368
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: That's true, right, that is one hundred percent true.

1369
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 8: I caught the third round. I had no idea how

1370
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 8: it was being scored.

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01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,479
Speaker 6: Earlier they said it was anyone's fight going into the third.

1372
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 6: Josh Van to me, clearly won the third. But uh yeah,

1373
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 6: all right, you gotta do.

1374
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: Here's Pantosia talking about what he believes the threat Van

1375
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: will be to his title, which I assume this fight

1376
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: will come later.

1377
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 5: This year when I have twenty three. I'm working in

1378
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 5: the restaurant, clean Jeshes. Look that the guy have twenty three.

1379
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 5: You're gonna fight for the belt, for the world championship.

1380
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 5: I think this guy is gonna be my tough challenger.

1381
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 5: You know, he's young, he's hungry, and uh, he don't

1382
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 5: make wars like I did in the past. You know.

1383
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 5: I make my thirty five fight professional fights tonight, you know,

1384
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 5: and uh, that's a lot a lot of wars. I

1385
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 5: make a pass through, you know, with a lot of

1386
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:18,479
Speaker 5: very good fighters. And uh, you giving me this new guy.

1387
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 5: I think everybody wants to see the new uh normal

1388
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 5: rematch for me, you know. And uh, I want to

1389
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 5: fight with that guy too. I want to fight. I

1390
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 5: want that challenger, you know, fight with a new blood,

1391
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 5: new kid with a very hungry I found a couple

1392
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 5: of fights from Joshuva. He's doing an amazing job with

1393
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 5: a hate at Suda. He definitely all they takedowns.

1394
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 7: Uh.

1395
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 5: He beat you a Bruno boo dog in the last fight.

1396
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 5: You have this opportunity to fight with the number one container,

1397
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 5: revow and do your amazing job. You know who can

1398
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 5: say that?

1399
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 8: Uh?

1400
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 5: And now I think that's my tough challenges, you know.

1401
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 5: But Monday back to the gym and my coach know

1402
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 5: that a normal champion of the war. I'm the challenger,

1403
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 5: you know, and I know who's my open eight and

1404
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 5: I know why to want I want this belt again?

1405
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: Does he take him down and get his back?

1406
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so all right, So yeah.

1407
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: Quickly to close on this Van situation, gamble from the

1408
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: UFC gamble from Van. In this case, it worked out.

1409
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: We've got a hot young guy coming up against a

1410
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: decorated champion thatworks throwing flowers too. Do you want to

1411
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: see more gambles like this? I get the situation. Petosi

1412
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: had kind of cleaned out the division, but we're seeing

1413
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: rematches that fans don't necessarily want, like DDP. Strickland to

1414
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: O'Malley morob two. Were you are you, would you like

1415
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: them more to roll the dice on young people that

1416
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: are that are hot at the moment to try to

1417
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: create these type opportunities.

1418
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 3: I would rather Josh Van have at least one more fight,

1419
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: particularly a five round fight, for him to be fully vetted.

1420
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 3: But they got to feed the machine.

1421
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: Hey, it's a it's a fight. We we're gonna be

1422
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: excited for us for sure.

1423
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: For sure.

1424
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to topic number.

1425
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 3: Real quickly, if I may, I forgot to say this

1426
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 3: when you mentioned we saw the clip of where the

1427
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 3: presenter was saying, you know, hey, Gegee's on par with

1428
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 3: you know the guys he's fought before that interview that

1429
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: they're doing. I hope everybody understands it's designed to undercut

1430
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: MMA media. Yeah, like, there's no other reason to do that.

1431
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 3: That is exactly what that is for, so that they

1432
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 3: can get the first word out and that by the

1433
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 3: time that the shows come around on Monday, they're getting

1434
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 3: the second or third word at that.

1435
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: They don't need critical media, so.

1436
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 3: They have just have their own.

1437
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: They have found a way to remove us and soon

1438
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: our employers. Oh yeah, no, sorry, I don't want to bring

1439
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: do them upon us. We're doing just final We're fighting

1440
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: the good fight. Let's go to topic number four. It's

1441
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: what else happened at UFC three seventeen. The undercard recap

1442
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 1: highlighted of course by bannam Way prospect Peyton Talbot proving

1443
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: his first loss was merely a lesson against Hyoni Barcelos

1444
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: as he came out against a very tough Felipe Lima

1445
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: and after succumbing to eight takedowns just five months ago

1446
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 1: to Barcelos in a humbling loss, Albert showed what five

1447
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: months of extreme focus upon his appling looks like he

1448
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: also has that legit punching power. In a knockout threat,

1449
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: he got a close twenty nine to twenty eight decision

1450
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 1: across all three scorecards. Luke, did it appear as if

1451
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: Peyton Talbot fixed the glitch and that he's still looking

1452
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: like the future of the band Waite Division.

1453
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: People think you can just get better at takedown defense

1454
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 3: in one camp. You can get better at takedown defense,

1455
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 3: but not enough to make up all the problems that

1456
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: you had. So did he look better?

1457
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if his takedown defense was better,

1458
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: but his grappling was a lot better to get out

1459
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: of potentially bad situation.

1460
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 3: Too, I thought. But I thought his takedown defense was

1461
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 3: pretty good as well. So yes, I mean did he

1462
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 3: show better patience when he had to? Better?

1463
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: Overall?

1464
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: I think technique in the clinch not just for striking,

1465
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 3: but for wrestling as you indicated on top as well.

1466
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: I think there were some real improvements. That doesn't necessarily

1467
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 3: tell me he would beat Barcellos in a rematch, because

1468
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: Barcellos is a different kind of takedown gun right now,

1469
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 3: right he's on a heater, so it's not to say

1470
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 3: that you would reverse the results. That's why people are like, oh,

1471
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 3: one fire, you got. Training is hard, It takes a

1472
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 3: long time to get good, but this was a big

1473
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 3: step in the right direction. I want to say something

1474
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 3: that Felipe Lima kind of like if there is so

1475
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 3: because of this xFC gig, I now have to watch

1476
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 3: a ton of tape on guys yes who are in

1477
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 3: that like you know, seven fights or less category. And

1478
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 3: if there is one consistent thread that I see all

1479
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: the time, it's that younger fighters, for the most part,

1480
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 3: unless they're like a specialist, like let's say they're a

1481
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu guy. If they're just like a hey, I'm

1482
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 3: just an MMA fighter, they have disorganized offense. They just

1483
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: kind of do shit without much of a strategic plan

1484
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 3: or orientation about feeding people into funnels.

1485
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: Or understanding of how that connects with their defense.

1486
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 3: Usually it's such a problem. Felipe Lima has a lot

1487
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 3: of ability. We saw that, and I do think it's

1488
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: true when we said he was more battle tested on

1489
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 3: the regional scene. He had a five round fight in Octagon.

1490
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 3: He was, but he just kind of chuck shits up.

1491
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: He kind of just chuckshit at the wall and then

1492
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 3: if it sticks, great, If it doesn't, even just does

1493
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 3: something else. And it's like, I'm glad that he has

1494
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 3: energy and ability to try a bunch of different stuff,

1495
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 3: but his finishing mechanics on a lot of those takedowns

1496
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 3: were poor. Maybe do less, but get better at those

1497
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 3: things and focus on that.

1498
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: But you gotta like tap Peyton's top game too. After

1499
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: he made reversals. He was kind of nasty on there too.

1500
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 3: Sure, but I'm just saying it was one time where

1501
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 3: you know, Lima gets under a punch and then all

1502
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 3: of a sudden you can just see he just sees

1503
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,799
Speaker 3: that there's legs there and just shoots for a takedown.

1504
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 3: It's like if you weren't planning to do that. I'm

1505
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 3: not saying is the wrong thing, but that's you're just

1506
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 3: trying shit, have a plan, orient your offense, think about

1507
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: it strategically for this round and then the bout.

1508
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: Are you still pullding on? Do all your Peyton tobet stuck?

1509
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? I wouldn't sell. No, I'm gonna hold it. I'm

1510
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 3: a Hoddle. Well that's for crypto, but still I'll holdle.

1511
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: You'll hold Okay. Do you think he's improved since the

1512
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,560
Speaker 1: collaboration with Frank Ocean.

1513
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:57,480
Speaker 3: Spiritually?

1514
01:08:58,479 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: I just think he is nooswagger.

1515
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 3: He's got some swag. Yeah, he's got swag.

1516
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: And I have to watch him. At one thirty five,

1517
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: Tracy Cortes had like a nice bounce back win from right, you're.

1518
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 3: Going to skip right over that Gregory Hedriguez win.

1519
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: Uh from I'll get to all of it all right,

1520
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: but I wanted to say that Tracy Cortes look good

1521
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: against Vianna Raujo dominating thirty twenty seven, relying on her

1522
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 1: grappling coming off of that lost to Rosanami Unis, and

1523
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: then made a call out to her fellow Hispanics Luca

1524
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: under what's going on in this country at this moment?

1525
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: Here is Tracy Cortez afterwards responding to that.

1526
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 13: And then I have to ask about you know that

1527
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 13: your post fight interview you did in Spanish. You know,

1528
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 13: back in Phoenix, it's been a little bit of some

1529
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 13: turmoil over there. There's been a lot of stuff going

1530
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 13: on in central Phoenix. So I guess I think a

1531
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 13: lot of people were surprised, maybe not surprised, that someone

1532
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 13: spoke up like that when they had the platform. So

1533
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 13: why did you feel it was so important to kind

1534
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 13: of put out that message like that.

1535
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 7: Uh, A lot of my fans are Mexicans. You know

1536
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:56,879
Speaker 7: it's the Latin community. It is someone that I represent

1537
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 7: very much to my core, and I think it'll be

1538
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 7: it would be almost coward like if I didn't speak

1539
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 7: on something. You know. I want the support from my

1540
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 7: from what I call me, I want their support, and

1541
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 7: I represent the Mexican flag as well as the US flag,

1542
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 7: and I think it was it's only right for me

1543
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 7: to speak on it. I haven't been able to because

1544
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 7: I've been very focused on this fight and I was

1545
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 7: just waiting for the right opportunity and I felt it

1546
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 7: in my heart, and I you know, I just want

1547
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 7: everyone to know that I don't know if I am

1548
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 7: qualified to speak on such a sensitive topic, but nevertheless,

1549
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,759
Speaker 7: I could be a voice. I could be a voice,

1550
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 7: and I'm here.

1551
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 13: Well you you are a voice, you know, and you

1552
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 13: can't say that from experience, it means a lot.

1553
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: It's okay, Look, will she be uh? Will Trump send

1554
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: the word to cut her?

1555
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean she's gonna be deported iminentely now?

1556
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: But were you pressure the performance? Like this was a

1557
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: pretty I know, I know is thirty eight in excuse

1558
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: me or however you say? I expected Cortes to win.

1559
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: I thought she was one of the safer bets on this.

1560
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: But did you think she showed that there's still movement

1561
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 1: up with the one twenty five letter.

1562
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. First of all, credit to Tracy Cortez. We're basically

1563
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 3: talking about ice raids, but putting that aside. In terms

1564
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 3: of the performance itself, I kind of expected it. I

1565
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 3: was I thought there was.

1566
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: I thought there was like a hard nosed commitment to

1567
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: the grapp Yeah, I don't know, you know what, Sometimes

1568
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: she looks like, you're right, there was a certain intention

1569
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: that was on.

1570
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the motor was on, the intentionality was on. Just

1571
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: seemed like maybe there was an extra edge relative to

1572
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 3: previous performances. But she also had issues that have kind

1573
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: of messed her up in previous spouts too. So yes,

1574
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 3: definitely a good performance.

1575
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: For accidentally put this out of order. But we do

1576
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: need to talk about hobo cop Gregory Rodriguez going in

1577
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: there again.

1578
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 3: People in my chat on Saturday and out were saying

1579
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 3: hobo cock because that was.

1580
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,600
Speaker 1: In there against Jack Hermanson, and we wondered if he

1581
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: was going to kind of guess himself out and expose himself.

1582
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, he's a dangerous finisher, particularly early

1583
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: and he absolutely ruined her Manson, but almost in more

1584
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: egregious bisping hendo one fashion, got a running start and

1585
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: came in for a hammer fist of death really to

1586
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: a fallen opponent. Luke is does he deserve the criticism

1587
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: for that? Or is it all on the referee? Because

1588
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: Herbdean wasn't wasn't flying in there. It was kind of casual.

1589
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: Where do you put the blame? Is this just part

1590
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: of the game. Warriors are trained to fight until they're

1591
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: told to stop. Should he have shown compassion and understanding

1592
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: in the moment, considering her Manson got hit, fell backwards,

1593
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: RoboCop had to jump in in close space, had time

1594
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,480
Speaker 1: to see him. And still just.

1595
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: By the letter of the law, that's Herbdane's fault. Okay,

1596
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 3: by the letter of the law. Because your job as

1597
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: a fighter is you don't stop until the referee pulls

1598
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 3: you off WI right, That is that is the game.

1599
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 3: That's why there's going to be your ask herself, is

1600
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 3: there going to be a sanction on Gregory Hadriguez for

1601
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 3: that extra shot? No, there's not. Why isn't there There's

1602
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 3: nothing in the bylaws they could get him on. He

1603
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 3: didn't break any rule. He didn't do, by the letter

1604
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 3: of the law anything wrong, So my level of outrage

1605
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 3: for Gregory Hadriguez is pretty limited. Now. On the other hand, BC,

1606
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 3: it would have been nice if he extended some mercy.

1607
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 3: It would have been nice, I you know, And I

1608
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 3: will give UFC credit. During the broadcast, they gave us

1609
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: updates on Jack's condition, so I thought that was nice

1610
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 3: as well.

1611
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,719
Speaker 1: Credit for working about a week now, that unbelievable. Obviously

1612
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: doing great work as she always does.

1613
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I mean that's hard work. I saw

1614
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 3: my wife in the week before her she gave birth.

1615
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 3: It was a lot. But what I was going to

1616
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: say is, you know, I've I've had an on and

1617
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 3: off you know, I've spoken to herb Dean many many

1618
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 3: times over the years, and sometimes it's been a pleasant conversation.

1619
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 3: Sometimes it hasn't. I think he botched this one. I don't.

1620
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 3: I don't know how else you can say it. His

1621
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 3: pos He had his hands on Hadriguez before Hadriguez landed

1622
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,879
Speaker 3: the hammer fist, but it was so it wasn't forceful

1623
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 3: a lot of times for.

1624
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: The double leg and try to take him in.

1625
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So to me, It's like, you know,

1626
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 3: could Haudriguez have been a little bit nicer. He could have.

1627
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 3: But the real onus on that one is Herbdean.

1628
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 1: I think Hobocock should lean into it and become a

1629
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: heel and just be okay, lou quickly here.

1630
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 3: Terrence mc kinny, I will hit you after the bell,

1631
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 3: That's what I do.

1632
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: I thought I liked the plus five hundred on McKinney

1633
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 1: go in the distance for the first time in his career.

1634
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: He liked a just over a minute submission of Slava clause.

1635
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: At thirty years old and four wins in his last five,

1636
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: has McKinney straightened out the path toward lightweight contention.

1637
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 3: I have no fucking idea, but this is awesome. Okay,

1638
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 3: I have no clue. I have no clue how far

1639
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 3: is this headed? But fifty five seconds of just swagging

1640
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 3: and ball choking but swinging in bank. I mean, he's dude,

1641
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 3: he's MMA's evil knieval and I don't know if he's

1642
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 3: going to get across the canyon, but I I do

1643
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 3: know this, They're gonna shoot his ass out of a.

1644
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: Can to go headfirst into the canaan if he has

1645
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: that's just what he does. Slava was fighting and raging, and.

1646
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe his people have no idea that choke

1647
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 3: would have tapped anyone within seconds. Yes, the fact that

1648
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: Slava Claus hung on that long is absurd.

1649
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: Anybody else on this undercard do you want to circle?

1650
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: Or the only thing I want to mention is, uh,

1651
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 3: the Jacoby Smith and Nico Price fighting. Yes, so Jacoby

1652
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 3: Smith looks amazing in round one, then gases like a

1653
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 3: motherfucker for the rest of the fight.

1654
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: As a minus three thou thousand.

1655
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 3: Favorite, Jacoby Smith has so many nice things about his game.

1656
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 3: There's a lot to be excited about. I'm excited about,

1657
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 3: but that one could have gotten away from him a

1658
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 3: little bit with if the opponent was a little better.

1659
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 3: Let's tighten that up. He looks like he looks like

1660
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: a fucking Hercules. But we got to get that gas

1661
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 3: tank dialed in it because he's got so many other

1662
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: good parts about him. That one was like, how are

1663
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 3: you this tired already?

1664
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? What about that? On the what was supposed to

1665
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: be the curtain jerker? About that miss accepted the fight

1666
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:05,640
Speaker 1: on like an hour notice?

1667
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1668
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: Then miss Wait then got cut, but now he's going

1669
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: to come back here.

1670
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 3: They brought him back to the Contender series, which is

1671
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 3: probably the right thing to do, right. Maybe maybe don't

1672
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 3: book fights with felons that can't make it there because

1673
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 3: they have ankle monitors and then ask guys to cut

1674
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 3: thirty pounds in three days, Like, let's just not do that.

1675
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: Hey, let's go to topic number five inside the box here,

1676
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: I guess we can call it boxing.

1677
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 14: Hey.

1678
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: Jake Paul had a pay per view on his own

1679
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: there against Julio says Oar Chavez Junior, and despite a

1680
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: late and kind of exciting rally over the last two

1681
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: and a half rounds from Chavez, Jccjr. Was mostly lifeless,

1682
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: to the point that there's a whole new set of

1683
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: people bringing on this is rig this is stage and

1684
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: even Jake Paul after the fight threatening over Twitter to

1685
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: start taking legal action against those saying just that. But Luke,

1686
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: all in all, it was a ten round unanimous decision

1687
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: for Jake Paul. What did Jake, if anything, actually prove

1688
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: in this win over Chavez? And do you believe that

1689
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: the boxing public has essentially hit their limit? We said

1690
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: coming in we were close. I'm not already there. Do

1691
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: you think of boxing in general? Have not just hit

1692
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: their limit on Jake Paul fighting these type of half

1693
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: circus fights, but really are just kind of done with

1694
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: this experience in general?

1695
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 3: I have. I'll say this, I am so glad that

1696
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 3: we did. We covered Jake Paul ahead of time. When

1697
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:24,680
Speaker 3: at the end of.

1698
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: Pregame preview, I'm like, what do you think about Jake Paul?

1699
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: You're like, we're not doing this.

1700
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 3: No, But I mean, like at any point since this

1701
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 3: fight was announced, I mean maybe a little, right. I

1702
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 3: take great pride that we didn't waste any time we knew.

1703
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 3: We knew, dude, We've seen the Jake Paul experience up close.

1704
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 3: You saw after Tyson They're just going to sandbag And

1705
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 3: I know what he's saying is like calling on Anthony Joshua.

1706
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: Anthony Joshua would send him to another fucking dimension.

1707
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: Joshua or even Canelo or even do fucking zero. These

1708
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: gys are gonna kill him.

1709
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: Well, the Canelo fight is more interesting to me. I mean,

1710
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 3: I think Canelo wins.

1711
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 1: These are all him cashing himself out right, Like, here's

1712
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: here's my lesson from does he believe he can win

1713
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: any of these. Look, I don't see how we could.

1714
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: Here's the reality of Jack Paul. He's a below average

1715
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 3: pro boxer and a very good promoter. Yes, that's what

1716
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 3: he's That's where his real pay perview start.

1717
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: He can get you in the building. He could sell

1718
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: you a narrative there.

1719
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 3: He's a below average boxer and a fantastic promoter, and

1720
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 3: he is aggressive for his brand. He makes it he

1721
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 3: gets noticed, which is really the most important thing a

1722
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 3: promoter should do, right, Carnival bark, That's that's that's the job.

1723
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 3: I think he's awesome at that. We just talked about.

1724
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 3: Netflix MVP is going to be putting on Sarrano versus Taylor.

1725
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 3: Couldn't have one bad thing to say about that if

1726
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 3: I tried two thumbs up. That is the Jake Paul

1727
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: experience that I care about. But this shit, who could

1728
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: possibly give a fuck about a guy eighteen months ago

1729
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: who had gun charges and was in a fucking rehabilitation center?

1730
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 3: Are we talking about a.

1731
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: Joke for thirteen fucking years? And then in this fight, dude,

1732
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: the last three rounds he was putting it on Paul.

1733
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: He won the last two rounds on the scorecards. He

1734
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: was exciting the full happen for the first four rounds

1735
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: when Chavez barely let his hands go, Or how about

1736
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: the first seven and a half. Let's look at the

1737
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: anemic punching graphic here of the CompuBox track punches. Chav

1738
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 1: is zero for four in round one, two for seven,

1739
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: one for like you see it. Then he picks it

1740
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: up finally midway through round eight, and then he out punches,

1741
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: he outlands Jake in the final two. So, Luke, I'm

1742
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 1: not dude, this rig stuff. I think it is wrong.

1743
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: These fights aren't rigged. I don't think they talked to

1744
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 1: Chavas before and give him extra money and say don't try.

1745
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: Chavez is his own car wreck that's always going to

1746
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: take the money and kind of not try in a

1747
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 1: way in some form. But did you actually see the

1748
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: success Chavs had in the last three rounds? Why your

1749
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: next comment has to be why don't you do that

1750
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: from the beginning? Could he have backed Jake into a

1751
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: corner in the beginning with that type of pressure? Could

1752
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: he have tested Jake's gas tank cut?

1753
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 3: I don't think he has I don't think he has

1754
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 3: the metal for it or the gas tank for it.

1755
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 3: I think what you saw is what he has. He's

1756
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 3: got a couple of rounds he can go balls out,

1757
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 3: and he saved it for the end because he didn't

1758
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: want to do it early and then gas when he

1759
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 3: knew it wouldn't work. That's it, dude, this will be got.

1760
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 3: This is There's no point in watching unless there's a

1761
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 3: unimaginable change. There's absolutely no point in watching Jake Paul

1762
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 3: box none, zero zip. But if he wants to promote

1763
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 3: I'm all in. I just fucking great.

1764
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: This was the fight where boxing as a community was like, okay,

1765
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: enough people are getting going the rigged portion. And here's

1766
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: Virgil Ortiz Junior, the unbeaten junior middleweight star, who said

1767
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: Jake Paul is scamming the entire world with these circus fights,

1768
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: selling them as real fights. The entire world continues to

1769
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: eat it all up and then have the nerve to

1770
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: be disappointed because the circus fights that they pay to

1771
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: watch aren't real fights. He's single handedly destroying the sport

1772
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: and everyone else is enabling it.

1773
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: That's wrong.

1774
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 1: You guys are going to continue covering and watching the circuses,

1775
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: hoping for the emptieth time that the circus will be real.

1776
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 1: What is it called again? When you keep doing the

1777
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: same thing expecting different results, you have to applaud Jake

1778
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 1: for keeping up the charade.

1779
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 3: Long.

1780
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: Well, look, look what's the charade here. Jake still works hard,

1781
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,440
Speaker 1: but he's picking matchups that are one thousand percent usually.

1782
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 3: Favorable for his size, age.

1783
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: Experience, whatever. This had the same size. But then che

1784
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: Chavis puts that out. I don't even see how he

1785
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: got booed in that arena in the Hunter Center. And

1786
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: by the way, very good undercard. They utilized some golden

1787
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: boy fighters, Like that was a kid Austin, kid Floyd Schofield,

1788
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 1: Kid Austin walking through Tevin Farmer in like a minute,

1789
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 1: Like that was a big development. There was some real

1790
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: boxing things that happened. But the fatigues real, Luke, and

1791
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: people are really like, okay, enough and here's the deal. Like,

1792
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, he called out Dravonte again afterwards, call out everybody.

1793
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: But like, unless the next fight is zero for the

1794
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: title and it's the final, you know, boss of this

1795
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: attempt to go from Disney and YouTube to a world champion,

1796
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: He's just not at a world champion level. So can

1797
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: we stop talking about fighting world champions? Yeah, look at

1798
01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 1: this face off backstage. Zerdo Romeraz defended his two cruiserweight

1799
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 1: titles against Uni A Dordicos in a decent fight in

1800
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: that comin event, and then we go through the charade here,

1801
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: I say, charaed, Look, because I don't believe Jake will

1802
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 1: do it. Do you believe Jake?

1803
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 3: All right? And if he did, it'd be his demise.

1804
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not going to play the shavs interview

1805
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: he did with Marco's Vegas, he said I should have

1806
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 1: started earlier.

1807
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,879
Speaker 3: What I you know, I don't what are we expecting

1808
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,759
Speaker 3: it that he's a professional sandbagger.

1809
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: But he still be okay with a Tommy Fury fight

1810
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: or a KSI fight next to sort of cross those.

1811
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, fine, that's that.

1812
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to avenge the Tommy Fury.

1813
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Tommy Fury fight. To me, it makes sense

1814
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 3: because they're roughly I mean, I guess Jake might be

1815
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: better at this point, but you know, on some level

1816
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,640
Speaker 3: they're roughly approximate inability. That one makes sense. But if

1817
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: he's just gonna professionally sandbag, I mean, what the fuck

1818
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 3: is the point?

1819
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 1: I mean, there were boxing reporters like Steve Kim, who

1820
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: texted that he left midway through that Jake fight and

1821
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: he was like, I got all the coverage I needed

1822
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 1: on an undercarts well matched.

1823
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 3: It was good stuff, but like, what is this. I'm

1824
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: so dude, on this fucking show. I will give Jake

1825
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 3: the coverage as a promoter or a boxer that I

1826
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 3: think is warranted. But what I'm not going to do

1827
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 3: is give a fucking airtime, certainly ahead of time anyway,

1828
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 3: to any just obvious sandbagging opportunity. I'm not doing it

1829
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: in verse as a corpse, not doing it anymore, by

1830
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 3: the way, And UFC tried this shit with John Jones

1831
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 3: and Stepe, and that's a different version caause Stepe is

1832
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 3: a legend and and you know John was still reasonably

1833
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: okay at the sport at that time. But setting up

1834
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 3: fights that you just know the outcome, and then of

1835
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: course one guy looks terrible and we're expected to be like, oh,

1836
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 3: I'm glad I spent my money on that. Fuck. No, no,

1837
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:24,679
Speaker 3: you can't scam fans.

1838
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: There were a surprising amount of people, including Sergio Moore

1839
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: and Chris Matics of his own, who were picking Javez

1840
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: to win.

1841
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 3: Like I saw that, and I was like, are you

1842
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 3: too high as shhit?

1843
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: I did, okay that I still picked Jake because I

1844
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: knew Chavez would implode in some form. But I'm saying,

1845
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: after what we saw in those file two and a

1846
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: half rounds, you don't think if Shavas actually came out

1847
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: looking to fight from the opening jump, that he might

1848
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: have been able to win that. Now I feel like

1849
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: he could have.

1850
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: I think he was within ability to do it in

1851
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 3: terms of his boxing skill, but not his boxing commitment. No,

1852
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 3: it's dude, so he was a fucking there for a paycheck.

1853
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 3: What are we talking about you?

1854
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 1: No, you're right, You're right, all right, those are our

1855
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: five topics right there. Now we turn the attention to

1856
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: our fans, and every night at Morning Combat on X

1857
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: and Instagram, we give you the opportunity to join the

1858
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: discussion asking questions of us. This one's called DMS from

1859
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: the Donks.

1860
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 3: Hey, they brought it back.

1861
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:19,160
Speaker 1: And they just jerked off that dog from Ryan Underscore,

1862
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: Thomas Underscore, Davies, Luke's long lost cousin. What needs to

1863
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: happen for the Ilia versus Islam fight to get made,

1864
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 1: because that's probably the best MMA fight that could happen

1865
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 1: right now. Now he's right, and look one versus two

1866
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 1: pound for pound, like this is the fight. And after

1867
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: seeing what Elia can do at lightweight, now I wanted

1868
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: at lightweight. I know we're not going to get Islam

1869
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: to say, hold on, Jack, let me go back down

1870
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: to lightweight. But what do you make of the combination

1871
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: of Ilia's star push after this and will this fight

1872
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 1: ever happen?

1873
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 3: I think if Jack wins, we might get it, so

1874
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 3: that would send Islam. Yeah, because here's the problem. If

1875
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 3: Islam goes in there and then just handles Jack, they're

1876
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: going to give him other contenders. They're going to give

1877
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 3: him shopcop there, give him whoever right. But if he

1878
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 3: loses to Jack, he might stay at one seventy. But

1879
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 3: now you're like, well, wait a second, you've got this

1880
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 3: generational talent a weight class below. You were just the

1881
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 3: generational talent at that weight class. It would do huge

1882
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 3: numbers even with the loss at seventy. I think it

1883
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 3: makes it much more likely.

1884
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: I don't feel like we're going to get it now

1885
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 1: we're coming into this fight. I still thought with a

1886
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: Tuporio win we were going to get it, not next

1887
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: but maybe a year from now.

1888
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 3: I still think it's unlikely, but maybe if Jack goes

1889
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 3: in there, I guess what.

1890
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: Would have to happen is Tuporia would have to probably

1891
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 1: make two quick title defenses right put away some some

1892
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: more names. Obviously, Islam would have to win the title

1893
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: because they're not going to let they made Deally a promise.

1894
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 1: They're not gonna lie them move up soon. What if

1895
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: he gets a couple title defenses quickly? Can we start

1896
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: being on the road to that if Islam has to

1897
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: be Jack to secure that number one for pound?

1898
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 3: But sure? Yep?

1899
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to question two from Sam v

1900
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: two feet. Is Pantosia underrated? He joined Vulk as another

1901
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: fighter that is thirty five and older at one fifty

1902
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: or below. Yep, and want a championship out against a

1903
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 1: younger fighter. He's got four title defenses, and we talked

1904
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: about him breaking flyweight records in three different categories for wins, subs,

1905
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 1: and finishes. Should he get more praise in general? Luke,

1906
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: we kind of hit this earlier, but like Antosia wildly

1907
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: underrated in general?

1908
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the problem is the top of the

1909
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 3: pound for pound me and you're dealing with some real

1910
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 3: heavy hitters. It's difficult, but you know, I just want

1911
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 3: to point out, like it's very interesting that like no

1912
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 3: one in the history of the UFC enter fifty five

1913
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 3: and below at thirty five had ever one, and now

1914
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 3: it's happened in pretty rapid succession.

1915
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're telling your stat to shit.

1916
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 3: The fuck Up's not mine as somebody else's, but I

1917
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: just popularized it. But I love I love that they're

1918
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 3: pushing it back now. So now it's thirty six or

1919
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: thirty seven, would have to go and look whatever it is.

1920
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: But like this boner isn't TOATORI is he just popular?

1921
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, it's not his boner, but the blood

1922
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,640
Speaker 3: has rushed to my penis for that reason. All right,

1923
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 3: Not about that, thank you very much.

1924
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Torri O'Neil, who said, you think male

1925
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 1: or female on Tori on neilt.

1926
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 3: The way they spelled it to go either way? Right, Yeah,

1927
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 3: that's a that's a that's a that's a day.

1928
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: Them amazing performance by Josh Van. Is there a number

1929
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,639
Speaker 1: twelve ranked fighter you'd pick to beat the number one

1930
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 1: in any other division?

1931
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 3: Right now?

1932
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: The question up UFC dot Com slash rankings.

1933
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 3: I mean maybe heavyweight.

1934
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: Let's go division by division to the number twelve.

1935
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, because it's tom As I got two off

1936
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 3: the rip, already go for it.

1937
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 8: Well, John Silva's number eleven, can we count that?

1938
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 11: Lord GM And then I was going to say that, yeah,

1939
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 11: because here's number twelve everywhere else there's let's go through

1940
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 11: through the divisions here very quickly, ready, So Pantoja at flyweight,

1941
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 11: number twelve is Josh van Is unicated.

1942
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,600
Speaker 3: Bantamweight, it's Kyler Phillips. Nope. At featherweight it's use of

1943
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 3: the law, who I respect. But no. At lightweight, it's

1944
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: Michael Chandler. Fuck no. At walter weight wonder Boy Nope,

1945
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: is in inunicaated we're near to rider eighty five. At

1946
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 3: light heavyweight it's Johnny Walker that ain't.

1947
01:27:56,040 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: He will tear up Scotland in Scotland, Yes, a number twelve.

1948
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 3: Well, at heavyweight it's Mick Parkin that ain't fucking happening,

1949
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 3: although he was good. At women's strawweight. Number twelve is

1950
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,960
Speaker 3: Angela Hill. No I love her, but no women's flyweight.

1951
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 3: Karini Silva absolutely not show me the number twelve at

1952
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 3: women please dingity ding ding and then number twelve at

1953
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 3: women's bantamway. Who's number twelve women's bantaway? Can you even

1954
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 3: Nora Cornoli if I've seen her fight, I don't.

1955
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 8: Remember as the French chick she just fought like a

1956
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 8: month ago.

1957
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's number twelve. We should take number thirteen, by

1958
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 3: the way, thank you very much.

1959
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: Let's go to number four here. This is from Cresnzo Fano.

1960
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: Did Elia Taporia have an officially better run than Connor

1961
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: with two ends.

1962
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 3: And his Also he put then sequential rather than van,

1963
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 3: which is the correct word.

1964
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: So he's saying Connor's run to to the one fifty

1965
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: five times.

1966
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so imagine you count everything Connor did to Eddie

1967
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:52,679
Speaker 3: Alvarez and everybody.

1968
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: You have the das fights in between. That makes it

1969
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: a little complicated, right he did comeback.

1970
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 3: And right, and then everything and everything Ilia did to

1971
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 3: this point to me, Ilia's run.

1972
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Is okay, superior, critically.

1973
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 3: No superior in terms of what the actual sporting achievement is. Yeah.

1974
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: Well, let's not forget what did to not Jose Aldo,

1975
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: who hadn't been like that?

1976
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 3: Who soned Alex like that? Who son Max like that?

1977
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 3: Who Son Charles like that nobody, nobody.

1978
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so not small.

1979
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 3: But literally no one's beaten Volk like that. I mean

1980
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,599
Speaker 3: you could say, you could say up a weight class

1981
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 3: on short fucking notice. Islam obviously did something like that,

1982
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: but in the weight class absolutely not. And then no

1983
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 3: one had done Max like that, and no one's done Charles, like.

1984
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 1: People are upset at us for when we talked last

1985
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: episode about if Elia does this, it's just like the

1986
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: greatest three fight stretch. People are like, how are you

1987
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: not talking about what Morob is on right now? Picking

1988
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 1: any of the pickets?

1989
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 3: Picked the three fight stretches that's better. It's a very

1990
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 3: easy question. Picked the three fights that are better, Tell

1991
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 3: me what they are and tell me why they're better,

1992
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 3: because remember, some motherfucker just went up a weight class too.

1993
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 3: He went up a fucking weight class, I don't know how, and.

1994
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 1: He's destroying them like it's not like in way the

1995
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: ways they've not been. There's one thing a Morob five

1996
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 1: round dominant's decision.

1997
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 3: There's also to go in there and fucking destroy them again.

1998
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 3: Is Morob pound for pound great top five, no question

1999
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 3: about it? But Ilia is different.

2000
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 1: This is fun watching you as the Taporia gatekeeper here

2001
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: like all ideas are coming in, all opinions and just

2002
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 1: like swatting them away, like nope, you can't pass here.

2003
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,839
Speaker 3: People again, people want to have skepticism about it because

2004
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 3: they don't like his personality, and it's time to let

2005
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: that go, all right.

2006
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: Final question from Styx plays time. What is your favorite

2007
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:35,200
Speaker 1: summer beverage alcoholic or otherwise? Great question because new kids

2008
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: on the block did have a bunch of hits and

2009
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 1: Chinese food makes me sick. But Luke, you know those

2010
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 1: girls wearing abrac Crombie and Fitch for the summer. For

2011
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: the summer, those girls are all in high school, by

2012
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 1: the way.

2013
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 3: All right, come on, uh summer, be let's go alcoholic. Okay.

2014
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,720
Speaker 1: Mohito is just a classic, isn't it? Like if you're,

2015
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: if you're and you and the wife go out to

2016
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 1: a nice restaurant. You're sitting outside on the sidewalk and

2017
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: it's beautiful.

2018
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 3: I'm not a mohito gy, but I do reckon. I

2019
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 3: respect it. No, I'm going to have you know it

2020
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,440
Speaker 3: is one of my favorite places to go in Cartogna

2021
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 3: is This is this place called Juan del Mar and

2022
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 3: they serve in apparol sprits there.

2023
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: That is, my wife lives on aperol sprits.

2024
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 3: So I don't have them everywhere every I've had them

2025
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 3: here in different places, and they just don't have chick drinks.

2026
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: Doude, you freaking love chick drinks.

2027
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 3: I like good cocktails.

2028
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: Well, you can drop the tail because that also works.

2029
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 3: I like hobo cocktail, like.

2030
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 1: Let me get it. Let me get an umbrella and

2031
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: a tampa.

2032
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 3: I do need the umbrella I need. I need a

2033
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 3: good mixologist as well.

2034
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 1: But you know your go to move man. This twenty

2035
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: five dollars drink sucks. They don't know how to make

2036
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: them in this city. Let me get the next twenty

2037
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: four dollars one.

2038
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 3: You know that's true. I want to try good cocktail now.

2039
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: This one sucks too.

2040
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 3: The problem is I can't really have more than three

2041
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 3: cocktails anymore without getting a headache, yeah.

2042
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: Or without becoming obnoxious in taking your live show downy.

2043
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,839
Speaker 3: You know what I did. I created memories and merchants.

2044
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:54,879
Speaker 1: Each content content is cake.

2045
01:31:55,160 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 3: So non alcoholic, though I feel like some kind of

2046
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 3: like watermelon.

2047
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 1: Juice or what's a great non alcoholic summer beverage. I'm

2048
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: not doing like Nah, I don't know, I'm lame.

2049
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 3: I feel like fresh pressed juiced in the summer for

2050
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 3: like fresh you know, the fruits that like shine in

2051
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 3: the summer. I feel like that's a big winter.

2052
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: Okay, you're not gonna get like a bud like clmato or.

2053
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 3: Anything that's alcoholic.

2054
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 1: I know, but isn't that gross with like the tomato sauce.

2055
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 3: I think anything bud light is gross. I mean, look

2056
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 3: who drinks it?

2057
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a cultural heritage, Luke.

2058
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 3: I don't think the climato is cultural heritage. The bud

2059
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 3: light version of it is not mandatory drinking. Don't you dare?

2060
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:39,839
Speaker 3: Do you are both dumb?

2061
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 8: I'm laughing at him doing the fucking.

2062
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 3: It's like you're just you're just fucking co signing his ignorance.

2063
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 8: Now, that was good. I want to give a shout

2064
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 8: out to the spicy margarita though that would be.

2065
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 3: My I like sparsy marks. Right, all right, what's the

2066
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 3: what's the drink that you've had that you like change?

2067
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 3: How do I ask that? Name a drink that you

2068
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 3: had that was like outside the boundaries which you normally

2069
01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 3: would drink, that you actually kind of liked like you

2070
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,520
Speaker 3: took a risk and it was good.

2071
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: Oh. I mean, I'll do that at nice restaurants when

2072
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: my wife's like, just don't get another IPA, get this is,

2073
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 1: I'll get something wacky. But I never remember the name.

2074
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: So I'm horrible. I'm horrible for this conversation. We have

2075
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 1: more no that'll wrap up our shams from Donks Morning

2076
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 1: Combat at gmail dot com. By the way, reach the

2077
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 1: show this this Thursday. So here's a little update on

2078
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: our schedule here. Friday is July fourth. We will not

2079
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 1: have a show. We will be live this Thursday, July third,

2080
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: or a nice remote episode where we will be playing

2081
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,040
Speaker 1: your fan subs. You're dead wrong, so hit them up

2082
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 1: at Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. Tell Mikey that

2083
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: you said hi.

2084
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 3: But please keep keep send those dick pics.

2085
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,719
Speaker 1: Keep the pants on. I'll one more time getting fired

2086
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,919
Speaker 1: up here. In a couple of weeks out July eleventh,

2087
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,760
Speaker 1: Friday Night in Netflix, history will be made in New

2088
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: York's Madison Square Garden, Taylor Serrano three. Are you surprised?

2089
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: First and foremost, Luke ahead of this a PM Eastern

2090
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,000
Speaker 1: five pm if a standard time. They're live on Netflix

2091
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 1: and Amanda Serrano, despite losing the two close fights, is

2092
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:06,560
Speaker 1: the betting favorite.

2093
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 3: In the third. I'm surprised. I did think she has

2094
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 3: the power. I thought she won both of those fights.

2095
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 3: I also agree, but I recognize that they're also insanely close,

2096
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 3: so I sort of get it. But at the same time,

2097
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 3: I'm like, if you got tripped up for the same

2098
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 3: reason in the second fight as you did the first fight,

2099
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 3: why would the third one be different? But I guess

2100
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 3: we'll see.

2101
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Well, we're on the road to Taylor Serrano three in

2102
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: such a historic location there of NYCMSG, the site of

2103
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 1: their first meeting, which I kicked myself to this day

2104
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: for not going to that one because those those that know,

2105
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: the boxing regulars that were there said, male female, We've

2106
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,680
Speaker 1: never seen that type of excitement in the arena, like

2107
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: you know, the Irish fans, the Puerto Rican fans coming out.

2108
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 3: I've seen two big events there. Irish fans lifted and

2109
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 3: that was one of them.

2110
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, what do we think the importance with the

2111
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: respects to women's boxing are From this standpoint? This became

2112
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 1: their second meeting, became a monster surprised as the co

2113
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: main event to Jake Paul and Mike Tyson that it

2114
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 1: not only was such a killer Fight of the Year

2115
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: contender All Act fight with controversy and scoring, but that

2116
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: it became the most watched of women's event in American

2117
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: sporting history. We know the history between them and what's

2118
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: at stake. What do you think this fight being an

2119
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: all female historic car on Netflix and putting this trilogy

2120
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 1: not in a comain to another, you know, male main event.

2121
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 1: This is a main event fight they're going on Netflix

2122
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: with this. What will this do potentially to women's boxing

2123
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: in general?

2124
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 3: It's hard to say long term what it would do,

2125
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 3: but I think on the short term, BC we grew

2126
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,640
Speaker 3: up in an era where we did actually have for

2127
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 3: all the issues that sometimes plague women's boxing, we had

2128
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 3: big time stars. We had Leila Ali, did the Laila

2129
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 3: Ali run, made news. It was she was a major

2130
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 3: and central sports figure. And we've lived through a world

2131
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 3: BC where we had that in MMA.

2132
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: In the nineties. Few you know, yeah, for.

2133
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 3: Sure, she's another one, I would saying we haven't exactly

2134
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 3: had something like that in a while now. They they

2135
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 3: did great for themselves on that first and especially that

2136
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 3: second about but here comes the third one. To me,

2137
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 3: it's like, this is the kind of trilogy and the

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Speaker 3: kind of bout and these two particular figures who I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's going to stand the test of time, but it's

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Speaker 3: going to serve for this generation what someone like Leila

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Speaker 3: Ali was for us a signpost a this is how

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Speaker 3: I remember this era of women's boxing. It's the standard excellence,

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Speaker 3: and it's also not just the standard of excellence, it's

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Speaker 3: the celebrated figures beyond just the standard of excellence. They

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Speaker 3: kind of combined both in that way. Plus it's a trilogy,

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Speaker 3: so it's like a Mickey War. It's a gotty Ward.

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Speaker 1: Kind of thing guaranteed at like that in the issue, like.

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Speaker 3: This fight checks off many different things that we just

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Speaker 3: haven't seen from the women's game. And of course the

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Speaker 3: combination of all these factors involved, including the presenter here,

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Speaker 3: is gonna make a big deffer.

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Speaker 1: Under what this does launch into the future of women's boxing.

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Speaker 1: To see a fight this important on this platform, a

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Speaker 1: lot of that same audience probably saw it as the

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Speaker 1: co main event to Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. Now

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Speaker 1: it's standing rightfully on its own. You do, though, have

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Speaker 1: to talk about the specifics and Katie Taylor really standing

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Speaker 1: by the traditional women's format of ten rounds two minute rounds,

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Speaker 1: not evolving or in my words, evolving to the men's

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Speaker 1: style of twelve minute twelve rounds three minutes. We talked

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Speaker 1: about this before. How Eddie Hern, the promoter of Taylor, said, Look,

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Speaker 1: fights are more exciting that way. I also think it

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Speaker 1: just it helps Taylor's style. Yeah, she can spam that offense.

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Speaker 1: We know Amanda Serrano, despite technically coming from a lower

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Speaker 1: weight class where she's currently the unified featherweight champion, she's

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Speaker 1: won titles in what like nine divisions, you know, from

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Speaker 1: one eighteen to one forty, Like, her power is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Does Serrano have to change her game plan? Because being

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Speaker 1: the power puncher, matching Taylor's output the best she can,

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Speaker 1: she came as close as you couldn't write fights one

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Speaker 1: and two. I scored both for Serrano, A lot of

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Speaker 1: people did. How does she change it? Knowing that we're

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Speaker 1: sticking with the two minute rounds, the ten rounds, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a sprint. Is there is there an

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Speaker 1: a depth? Is there an evolution to the style? Knowing

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Speaker 1: I've gone twenty rounds with Katie Taylor and I just

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Speaker 1: barely couldn't edge her out?

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Speaker 3: Wait wouldn't So Okay, didn't Serrano have a greater output

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Speaker 3: in both those fights? And Taylor was the one who

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Speaker 3: had had flurries but overall high lower volume.

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Speaker 1: Umpubox because Taylor is all about high volume all the time.

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Speaker 3: See let's see, let's see Taylor.

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Speaker 1: And Serrano largely met met that volume evenly.

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Speaker 3: It felt like she definitely had big flurries, all right.

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Speaker 3: Here was the one from the second fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was one in she had some headbuok controversial.

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Speaker 3: November of twenty twenty four. So no, dude, Serrano has

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Speaker 3: much bigger numbers, not every single time, but most times.

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Speaker 3: I mean yet, dude. In round seven, Taylor landed thirty

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Speaker 3: five punches out of seventy nine attempted. Serrano landed fifty

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Speaker 3: four out of ninety seven attempted. How about this round ten,

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Speaker 3: Taylor landed thirty nine, Serrano seventy three. That's landed, not

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Speaker 3: throne landed. To me, it's like Serrano has figured out

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Speaker 3: a way to get a lot of volume in, but

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Speaker 3: for some reason it's not translating in the case of Taylor.

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Speaker 3: I think she likes this format, where again it kind

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Speaker 3: of builds over time, but she gets these flurries in

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Speaker 3: that are more memorable. What Serrano's got to do is

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Speaker 3: not just put volume on her. She's got to do

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Speaker 3: something that the judges can just ah, I remember what

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Speaker 3: happened in that round. I remember what happened in that

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01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 3: exchange for that minute. It's not a lot of time

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01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 3: to work, it's two minutes.

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Speaker 1: I wonder she's got to keep Taylor on the outside more,

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01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: you think, so try to because they end up just

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01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,719
Speaker 1: coming together and throwing flurries and it's exciting as hell.

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01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 1: But to come that close twice. This third one is

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Speaker 1: in their home city of New York.

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Speaker 3: There with the Puerto Rican badge, the Puerto Rican crowd

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Speaker 3: versus the Irvis crowd is going to be.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing. I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 1: So it all goes down, of course, Friday, July eleventh,

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Speaker 1: live on Netflix a PM Eastern five pm Specific Standard time,

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Speaker 1: and Luke Credit. This is where you got a credit.

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Speaker 1: J Paul nickis the most viable promotions they have filled

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Speaker 1: this card signing all of these top rated names in

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Speaker 1: women's boxing. Alicia Baumgardner, so many up and down this

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Speaker 1: card at holly Holm this weekend. Who got a win

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Speaker 1: coming back in boxing for the first time since her

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame induction in the in the run of

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01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 1: the UFC. I gotta give Jake a lot of credit.

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Speaker 1: This will be a showcase of elite women's boxing. But

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Speaker 1: I can't say the winner of this is going to

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01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,759
Speaker 1: own this era because this era of renaissance women's boxing

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Speaker 1: colors shield.

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Speaker 3: Is such as a claim, such a.

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Speaker 1: Huge part of that. But I think they'll join Shields.

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Speaker 1: I think win or lose for either of these two,

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01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 1: they're going to join Shields on that Mount Rushmore. I

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01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 1: really do. I think Shields, Serrano and Taylor have places

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01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,400
Speaker 1: on the top four there, you know, with with the

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01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 1: the ones that are already there, of the Lei La

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01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 1: Las Lucia Rikers, the uh who else am I missing there?

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Speaker 1: I mean there's been, there's been who's the uh the trainer,

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01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 1: the trainer.

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Speaker 3: What I was going to say was to me, this

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01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 3: is as I indicated, you know, if the how about this,

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01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 3: if the third, if the third fight is like the

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01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 3: first two, this is going to be women's gotty ward. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm sorry, that's what it's gonna be. And

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Speaker 3: and I honestly like I'll leave it at that, but like,

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01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 3: that's that's what that's what we could have next month.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Friday, July eleventh, Lava, Netflix, eight pm Eastern,

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Speaker 1: five Pacific. Don't miss it. We have one more segment

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Speaker 1: for you today, and this is, of course, where your

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Speaker 1: boy BC checks out the Internet right on a Sunday

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01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: trying to find the most ridiculous videos in the world

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01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: of combat sports and beyond to get a rise out

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01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 1: of Luke Thomas. Last week? What was I grated last week?

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Speaker 1: You didn't give me a letter, but there was some

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Speaker 1: you know, so severe it.

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Speaker 3: Was nothing great across the world.

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01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 1: Let's see if I can bounce back. This one's called

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01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: have you seen this ish? Whoah? Somebody's drinking after that one?

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Speaker 1: All right, UFC three seventeen was I f W time

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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas? Luke? You know I love a real

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Speaker 1: recognizing reel. How about Ilia and Pantosia backstage?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking hammers.

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Speaker 1: Let's get yes.

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Speaker 3: One of those welts that Yeah, I love it, love it.

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Speaker 3: The family guys, Look, we need.

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Speaker 1: Good stories in them and made we need good people.

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01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 3: Let's go there high achievers who here's my request, can

2264
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 3: we get high achievers who aren't racist and don't commit crimes?

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01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 3: Is that? Is that too much time?

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01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 1: Can we get out of conversations like this? Next one,

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01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 1: Dana White being asked about all of these recent tweets

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01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,759
Speaker 1: from John Jones. Dany, can you clarify who was the liar?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 14: You brought him up down here? You brought up John.

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Speaker 14: I don't know if you okay, fair enough? He gave

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01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 14: you a layup. I don't know. Did you see his

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01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 14: series of tweets over the last few days inferring that

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01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 14: basically he told you guys that he was retired last November,

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Speaker 14: and that your efforts to make to ask for no

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01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:48,200
Speaker 14: fight we're basically few times it's not true? Okay, I

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Speaker 14: tell you, I Is.

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Speaker 3: That what you wanted to ask me?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, That's what I wanted to ask you. But what

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Speaker 14: do you make of him coming out and saying it,

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01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 14: saying in contrary to what you've said there?

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm telling you the truth. I think they're both lying.

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Speaker 3: Can we just believe? Believe? Here's how often I want

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01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 3: to talk about John Jones again? Never if we never

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01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 3: bring him up, I'd be too happy if.

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Speaker 1: W also gave us this incredible moment. I don't think

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01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull this is from the UFC Hall Fame,

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Speaker 1: Serey Morning. We can play this right. We're not gonna

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01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: get us on this.

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01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 3: We gonna find out.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna Sonia gospel them. Two thirty six

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Speaker 1: the best fight that ever happened in my lifetime. I know,

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01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: people like, what about these other brawls that were better

2295
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in my lifetime? I was capable.

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Speaker 3: Aren't objective list, they're just personal list. Yes?

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Speaker 1: Is it pound for pound the best action fight we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen?

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01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 3: No?

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01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: Was it an insane title fight? Yes? Look at the

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01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: respect they give each other.

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Speaker 3: You know I had that mana that fire, but I

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01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 3: never ever got to realize that until you released it

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Speaker 3: from me. So brother, I am forever indebted to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You make me a better person.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Lampley was right. These two like give each other

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01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 1: so much and fought to the death that now they

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01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 1: want to f luke right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Fighting This is a two favorite things.

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Speaker 1: Come on, this is awesome. But you know I don't

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01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: like that we call Hall of famers hall of famers

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01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 1: just because their fight got into the Hall of Fame. Yeah, ge,

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01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: damn it, Delvin Gastolon is all fams.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna do it, you've got to put this

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01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:16,080
Speaker 3: one in. It's just the reality. I think that jacket's cool.

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Speaker 1: By the way, should they have to rematch?

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01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 7: Now?

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01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 1: Just give us a second helping of.

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Speaker 3: I don't have any You can't recreate lightning in a bottle.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going. It's time for our

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Speaker 1: shirts of the week here, Luke, this is I don't

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01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 1: want me to get political, but what do you think

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Speaker 1: about this one?

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Speaker 3: Far right? Excuse me, far left? Far right, bitch, I'm

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Speaker 3: far ting.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I feel like you should already that.

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01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 3: That is my political party right there.

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Speaker 1: You know this show's infamous history of touching tips.

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Speaker 3: Check out this shirt real bros touch tips?

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Speaker 1: Yeah that guy?

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Speaker 3: I mean that was the church our God? Okay, never mind?

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Speaker 1: Yes, And finally, Luke, long lived Princess Diana. But check

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Speaker 1: out this NASCAR related die shirt number ninety.

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01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 3: Is this show turning into insulting the deaths and terrible

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01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 3: tragedies of the world.

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Speaker 1: Honor that's not an insult.

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01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how. So why does every young

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01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 3: guy now all of a sudden have curly hair That

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01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:18,120
Speaker 3: wasn't that way when I grew up. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what that look.

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01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: You know, regional combat sports where.

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Speaker 3: Anything, brother, I'm living on it.

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01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: Anything can happen. Let's go to tough enough. You once

2345
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 1: called the Louis Hernandez fight, right.

2346
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 3: I called his last fight before this.

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01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 1: So this is a fight and tough enough, and he's

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01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 1: flipping off Chris Curtis.

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01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 3: And Sean strickl So I talked to Chris Curtis.

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Speaker 1: And watch what Sean Strickland does coming in here.

2351
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 3: Bro, he comes marching in like a dad.

2352
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: What the frick, dude?

2353
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he comes marching in like a dad. And then

2354
01:45:43,040 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 3: Chris Curtis gets up in his face. So I haven't

2355
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 3: got clarification, but I messaged Chris Curtis and he told

2356
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 3: me that Louis Hernandez repeatedly told him to suck his dick,

2357
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 3: which which I'm like, BC tells me that every Monday,

2358
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 3: I don't fist fight him. You know. The point interesting

2359
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 3: point is, first of all, two things I want to

2360
01:46:02,160 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 3: say about that Louis Herd andez I called his fight

2361
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 3: next FC. He's fucking good, like, I would not be

2362
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 3: surprised if he actually gets called up to Contender Series

2363
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 3: or something. Second of all, until he does, he's a

2364
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 3: fucking cop. Like, the whole thing about this is just

2365
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 3: a cop. Just crotch chopping and then fair Combsean, you know,

2366
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:20,799
Speaker 3: marching in like a fucking show.

2367
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: Would show that and also instinct in the cage, right.

2368
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also there's a big problem for Sean and Chris.

2369
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 3: Chris has a fight next month now, I'm not sure

2370
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,960
Speaker 3: where it is, the Max Griffin fight and Sean I

2371
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 3: don't think it. Does he have anything on the calendar. No,

2372
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 3: but if you get suspended in Nevada, the UFC is

2373
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 3: not gonna take you to fucking Australia and then just

2374
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 3: dodge a commission. You're suspended. No, no, no, no, no, no,

2375
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 3: that's one thing they've When have they done that? All right,

2376
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 3: They've never done that. They've never done that. If you

2377
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 3: get suspended by a real commission somewhere, they honor that.

2378
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:56,640
Speaker 3: And the point I'm trying to make is even if

2379
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 3: the UFC did do that, you see, by the way,

2380
01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 3: if you see did they they would.

2381
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 1: Recognize down this fight from Vegas to.

2382
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:03,759
Speaker 3: LA It was all under commission.

2383
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 1: John Jones is saying on Twitter that he changed the game.

2384
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 3: For everybody that happened under commission approval. They didn't do it,

2385
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 3: you have seen, would be risking their own license. I'm

2386
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,680
Speaker 3: saying if the Commission suspends either of them for this,

2387
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 3: that's going to fuck up their career the rest of

2388
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 3: their years. If they want to the rest of this

2389
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 3: year anyway, if they want to.

2390
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 6: Fight, let's stay in the reach scene real quick as

2391
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 6: fighting in two weeks, by the way, so it's even

2392
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:24,679
Speaker 6: sooner than.

2393
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,480
Speaker 1: Look, do you remember X one Championship fighter Ivan Perishkov

2394
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't.

2395
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:30,719
Speaker 3: Not off memory.

2396
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,799
Speaker 1: Do you know about this weed boxing promotion in Thailand

2397
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 1: that they have We've shown the clip.

2398
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:34,639
Speaker 3: No, but now I'm interested.

2399
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 1: Check out Ivan after he won this boxing fight.

2400
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 3: Oh he just gives electrocuted like a bitch.

2401
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he did live. We are not showing another

2402
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:44,080
Speaker 1: death right here on on. Have you seen this ship

2403
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:45,400
Speaker 1: we have that we have by accident?

2404
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 3: He looks like the mosquitos in my front porch on

2405
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 3: that light. I have that all right?

2406
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: This next clip is not a regional promotion. But check

2407
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 1: out this performance of this person in this street altercation

2408
01:47:57,120 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 1: and the pink jumps sending that to hell.

2409
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 8: I don't know, said NYPD on their things.

2410
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: It really, dude, is this guy throwing hands?

2411
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 3: Dude? What the fuck is this? Who are Oh my god, dude,

2412
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 3: guess I mean what? First of all, he seems like

2413
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 3: a terrible guy, but he got hands.

2414
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,919
Speaker 1: Dude, He's like killing a crowd right here.

2415
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,519
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. But here's the thing is,

2416
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 3: even if you win this and you drive off, they're

2417
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 3: gonna get your license plate and you're gonna go to

2418
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 3: fucking jail, you know what I mean. Like, it's over

2419
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 3: for you wild, So enjoy the fistfight. You're gonna be

2420
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 3: in rikers.

2421
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,439
Speaker 1: One more regional result here in Japanese MMA, watch this

2422
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 1: finish in this female fight, Luke, oh brother.

2423
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 3: People don't know women's MMA in Japan has got a

2424
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 3: pretty long and interesting history, and you just don't see

2425
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 3: knockout power like that and women the small But that

2426
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:50,840
Speaker 3: lady had some look.

2427
01:48:50,840 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: In my suburban Connecticut neighborhood, people are always uh not

2428
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 1: used to the fact that I regularly have bears, bobcats, foxes,

2429
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:58,800
Speaker 1: like running through my yard and cutting through all the time.

2430
01:48:58,800 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 3: It's just got a furry convention.

2431
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,439
Speaker 1: I grew up like that, but now it's there's fur everywhere.

2432
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: Foxes are wild. Check out this fox stealing the glizzies

2433
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 1: off the grill and hell yeah, she's heading back like

2434
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 1: a Hell yeah, look at that thief. I like foxes,

2435
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 1: although they it's in.

2436
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,479
Speaker 3: Ocean City, Maryland. That fox probably has radioactive waste all

2437
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 3: in its blood.

2438
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: All right, hey, look we've got some child abuse in

2439
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 1: a while in this.

2440
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 3: If you haven't peen on the floor at Secrets, you haven't.

2441
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 3: You haven't lived life.

2442
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:24,680
Speaker 1: Watched the kid in the red T shirt here on

2443
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 1: the soccer celebration. Get out of there, kid. Take that

2444
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 1: one more piece of child abuse from this Jenga game.

2445
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 1: Where are the parents when you you fucking don't hurting?

2446
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 1: Get in there, Get in there on hobocock please? Oh god, wow.

2447
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 3: Had Well, I can't. I can't. I was gonna be

2448
01:49:45,080 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 3: a really you can't aggressive joke about an ex girlfriend.

2449
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 1: But look, if we're gonna have child abuse, we better

2450
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,640
Speaker 1: offset it with some elder abuse. So let's go to

2451
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 1: the motorcycle full dress right there.

2452
01:49:58,600 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 3: Okay, So this happened to me.

2453
01:50:01,640 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: Oh oh god.

2454
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 3: Yes, charged to the school. One time I had to

2455
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 3: put a motorcycle into my friend's barn. It was many,

2456
01:50:09,800 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 3: many years ago, and uh, I had never I'd ridden

2457
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 3: a motorcycle like a little bit but not. I didn't

2458
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:16,719
Speaker 3: know what the fuck I was doing. And the ramp

2459
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 3: up was kind of long. You got to give it

2460
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 3: a little gas. You gotta get and I didn't and

2461
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 3: I got half that over and the motorcycle landed on

2462
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:25,400
Speaker 3: me and it burned my leg because the engine was

2463
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:26,400
Speaker 3: so hot. Yeah, it was fun.

2464
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 1: She's just given that away and like a podcast raffle afterwards, Hey,

2465
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 1: let's go, I begged his mom.

2466
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 3: It was cool.

2467
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you havec as I mentioned, produced and

2468
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: presented the third and final Canelo Crawford World Tour press

2469
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 1: conference in Vegas. Dude, this comment from Bud and this

2470
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,160
Speaker 1: little back and forth got me fired up. I won't lie.

2471
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 15: First and foremost, somebody was in a room saying that

2472
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 15: I was scared of them, so I stepped to him

2473
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 15: and then showed him who is the boss of this fight.

2474
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 15: I ain't scared of shit.

2475
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 16: Hey, I never say that, your uncle say that.

2476
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 15: I ain't scared of ship and you're gonna find that

2477
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 15: out out as you've seen the last Presidence when I

2478
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 15: walk you down, when you're supposed to be the bigger man.

2479
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 16: Yeah, hey, you say that because you're fighting with nobody

2480
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 16: and you obviously look like you're a great fighter. But

2481
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 16: you find out September thirteen, this is gonna be different

2482
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,080
Speaker 16: for you.

2483
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 15: And it's gonna be different from you as well.

2484
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 3: As well.

2485
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 15: Watching for the last fighters that you fought, they ain't

2486
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 15: on my level.

2487
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 9: I thought everybody the last fighters you folks, every thousand

2488
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 9: two mentioned me one, you mentioned one lead fighter.

2489
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 3: Just you wationed about this. Oh me, it's gonna mean me.

2490
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:53,520
Speaker 3: I don't tell you, and you.

2491
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 16: You will see that.

2492
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 15: You so when I beat you, and you're gonna be

2493
01:51:56,360 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 15: another body when I stop them, as you said, you're

2494
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 15: gonna be on nobody just like everybody else.

2495
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 3: Watch watch everybody saying since.

2496
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 15: I moved him forty seven, I ain't fought nobody, every

2497
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 15: last one of them.

2498
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 8: Stump AMU hole and said he gonna be next.

2499
01:52:18,000 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: Oh ship, Okay, that's okay, that was great, that's good.

2500
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 1: Why when he was asked, yes, goats podcast, Okay, he's.

2501
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 3: Asked, name one elite fighter that you fought, and he's

2502
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 3: bringing up, like, okay, Ricky Apple wherever the he brought

2503
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 3: his victor Postal.

2504
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: Who was the unbeaten at the top, fought him on

2505
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: pay per view and he dominated him. That's a great

2506
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 1: win on his resume.

2507
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 3: It's like under rated.

2508
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: Fine, but you're right, he should have led with Errol

2509
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 1: Spence Sean Porter right, like he should have gone that.

2510
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 1: Why would he bring up is Ricky Burns, who was

2511
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 1: a quality guy lightweight, But like, yeah, I don't understand

2512
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:50,520
Speaker 1: why he did that. I don't know, but I couldn't understand.

2513
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:51,840
Speaker 3: That Spence one was fucking incredible.

2514
01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 1: I also don't understand why they were sitting on a

2515
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 1: rooftop with Tom Brady Shaquille O'Neil and you know what,

2516
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: what do we do?

2517
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 3: It's the most Saudi thing ever. Let's just did you

2518
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 3: see the way.

2519
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 1: That Ring Magazine's Twitter account was just killing Jake Chafes

2520
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:04,719
Speaker 1: the whole week and over the weekend.

2521
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 3: No, but I think that's funny. Dude, they're editorially just

2522
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 3: dump It's not a dude, it's not a magazine, it's

2523
01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 3: a pr arm for Turkey.

2524
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of that pr arm. Backstage, Bud ran into

2525
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: Mike Coppinger in a wrestling match, broke out.

2526
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 3: Shot the fuck up dude.

2527
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 1: By the way, did you see cop going at Jake

2528
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: on Twitter aggressively like, who are you to say this?

2529
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 3: I wonder if Turkey's cracking the whip on them?

2530
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 1: Interesting shot the look it's not October, but here is

2531
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: your Halloween costume of the year already.

2532
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 3: Okay, well this is I mean, are we ingenuity?

2533
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 6: Come on?

2534
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: You can you can separate the art from the artist

2535
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 1: and rate that tat look.

2536
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 3: At Let me let me just say, Let me just say.

2537
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 3: I think this show has turned into tragedy porn. It's

2538
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 3: really which porn is kind of tragic.

2539
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 1: The best way to wash down tragedy, porter is by

2540
01:53:58,880 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: going to a German McDonald.

2541
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 3: Look at what they're selling, Luke, we are sucking dish.

2542
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:11,799
Speaker 3: That's that elliots Aporia happy meal. I've been buying.

2543
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 1: Well, you know, every week we do like to remember

2544
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 1: the past and never forget right.

2545
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,640
Speaker 3: Okay, because I didn't sleep last night, just drop some

2546
01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 3: coffee in my shirt? Is a random Tuesday? Like this

2547
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 3: day can't get any worse?

2548
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:32,480
Speaker 1: Apparently I can, Luke. Some people are so dark they

2549
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 1: even put tragedies on their body as a tattoo. I'm

2550
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: not going to ask you to rate that because that's disgusting.

2551
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:38,120
Speaker 1: But that's a real tat.

2552
01:54:38,200 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 3: Also, it's a bad one. It's not even a good tattoo.

2553
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 7: You know what.

2554
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: Let's get into actual tests. It's time to play rate

2555
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: that tat. We need a rating one to ten on

2556
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: the quality. Okay, under your here's a neo Japanese arm.

2557
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on this.

2558
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:55,839
Speaker 3: Neo traditional that pops? That's almost like that's almost neo

2559
01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 3: traditional slash new school.

2560
01:54:58,240 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 1: It's like a nine, right, No.

2561
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 3: Eight or higher?

2562
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 1: Do you think the guy's arm should get in the

2563
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 1: gym a little more?

2564
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 3: Maybe? I'm gonna guess there's a few things wrong with this.

2565
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going. You love soccer, you

2566
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 1: love MESSI? Is this a messy tattoo for you?

2567
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 3: Luke?

2568
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2569
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a zero and that's a negative eight billions.

2570
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna have you rate that.

2571
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:28,280
Speaker 3: It's like, why is why is MESSI kissing the tip

2572
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:29,720
Speaker 3: of Peter North's hall? Yeah?

2573
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 1: There we go, there we go. This is this is

2574
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 1: a creative one. I want to see how you score it.

2575
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 1: I wonder if you put it on a curve because

2576
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:36,080
Speaker 1: of the curves involved.

2577
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 3: He's holding butchet Yeah, alright.

2578
01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. All right, it's time for MMA

2579
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 1: fighters in the wild. The aforementioned Connor McGregor is back

2580
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 1: training for the cameras. Only it seems to keep that body.

2581
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 3: Why does he look increasingly purple?

2582
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I just don't understand. I'm gonna be

2583
01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: honest with that.

2584
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

2585
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't get it.

2586
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 3: And there's everyone watching him.

2587
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where he's at in his crazy.

2588
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:01,320
Speaker 3: Once once again. Like I'm if he never thought again,

2589
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 3: I'd be cool. That'd be totally cool. I don't need

2590
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 3: him anymore.

2591
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 1: Chewi Weives was in the wild Saturday at their Friday

2592
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 1: at the Way and this is at the Wig and

2593
01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 1: watch the celebration turn into child abuse. Luke oh ship

2594
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 1: oh okay, oh shit yeah. Notice that kid didn't.

2595
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 3: Go down though, got an iron chin brother ye.

2596
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of Chiwi Wi's, he went to UFC Fan X

2597
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 1: and ran it into Lord Gianne Silva and the two

2598
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 1: started having fun, but it did escalate into a weird

2599
01:56:28,240 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 1: wrastling match.

2600
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 3: What do you make of you? Every time a fighter

2601
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 3: greets Cormier, they just start wrestling him. Yes, it feels

2602
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 3: like that.

2603
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 1: Right, there's oh, Fabio Busque, right yeah, Fabiano Fabiano. Do

2604
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 1: you think he gets he gets chicks for from this job?

2605
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:46,040
Speaker 3: I hope? Okay, goat translator if ever there was one?

2606
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: What is going on here?

2607
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 3: This got a little weird. These guys are just being

2608
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 3: at this over under Clinch. There's there's Mauricio hoofy Hoof.

2609
01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, hold on, hold on, let's let's let's

2610
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 1: chill out here. And I don't know if you've seen

2611
01:56:57,800 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: this video.

2612
01:56:58,200 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is why when guys are like,

2613
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 3: m m A is not homo erotic. I'm like, it's

2614
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 3: the most homo.

2615
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:04,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't looking at it from that angle. I'm just like,

2616
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 1: it's just like.

2617
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 3: Threw him out, took his phone. I mean, I've had

2618
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 3: enough this.

2619
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 1: Boys will be boys, all right, Luke, Sorry about that.

2620
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 1: The last fighter in the Wild was Habib. In fact,

2621
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 1: he's on the water. What do you make of his

2622
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,400
Speaker 1: wakeboarding skills? He's the goat right now. I don't know

2623
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: shit about wakeboarding. Does anyone on the show know anything

2624
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 1: about it cultured in the lake life.

2625
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, from what I can tell, if

2626
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 3: this is like early, you know, if he's new at this,

2627
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,520
Speaker 3: that's pretty good, right, Yeah, I wish I mean, looks

2628
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 3: like his balances like it looks like it looks like

2629
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 3: his balance is a little bit off, you know, But he.

2630
01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: Did well on there, Luke. The UFC Wayiam Show continues

2631
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: to be off the frickin' rails. Here's Michael Bisbee, Laura

2632
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 1: Senko listen.

2633
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,400
Speaker 17: I mean, of course, Laura Sankoa has just provided so

2634
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:53,879
Speaker 17: many great matchmaking moments over the years, so that along

2635
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 17: to get her into the Hall of Fame. But of

2636
01:57:56,000 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 17: course she's known for being the UFC's finest female commentator.

2637
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 17: I think when it comes to being a female commentator,

2638
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 17: there is no one that does it better than Lauris.

2639
01:58:09,960 --> 01:58:10,120
Speaker 6: You know.

2640
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 1: But you were the first, well.

2641
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 17: The second, the long time ago, but you're the first

2642
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:18,000
Speaker 17: modern era of course. Uh outside of d C.

2643
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 1: You've got the best tits.

2644
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 17: Yeah, that counts for something.

2645
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 3: On the show That's bound, I'll say this, that's definitely

2646
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 3: gonna get you fired at CBS Sports And we did it. Yes,

2647
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 3: pretty good joke.

2648
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 1: Actually, well it's twell times, but he ripped on DC

2649
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 1: he should rob the w.

2650
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:41,839
Speaker 3: I mean, the reason why that joke works is because

2651
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 3: a you're comparing her to a male and you put

2652
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 3: the male first, right, So there is the reason why

2653
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 3: that works. I gotta say, that's a ballsy joke. That's

2654
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 3: pretty good. That's pretty good joke.

2655
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 7: Uh.

2656
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 3: Then they also get get you fired at any place.

2657
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 1: They also brought out a magician right after named Jerry McCambridge,

2658
01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: and he continued the jokes. Can you come close?

2659
01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 6: Yes?

2660
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 3: Do you want to switch?

2661
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 1: No, she just needs to be over here. Okay, which

2662
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:07,040
Speaker 1: side would you like me on?

2663
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 3: Okay?

2664
01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh they are nice chips.

2665
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:18,120
Speaker 3: No, So that is that is that's just straight up

2666
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 3: sexual harassment. That is that's straight up sexual harassment in

2667
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 3: the workplace. I mean the best being one was too but.

2668
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: At least I'm telling you it went too far. I'm

2669
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 1: telling you, but it was it went too far.

2670
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 3: Did I just love how Senko does nothing but homework

2671
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 3: and the only thing anyone in mm A can do

2672
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 3: is sexually objectifire. I know no one cares because we

2673
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 3: live in a world where you could just get to be.

2674
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 3: This is the world where you know, no one can.

2675
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: The Yeah, okay, no one cares. Things also got weird

2676
01:59:46,880 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 1: on the build to Paul Chavez before the fight even

2677
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:50,960
Speaker 1: took place. Here's a little snippet from their face off.

2678
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 1: I'd like to get your thoughts one of the world. Yes, oh,

2679
01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 1: here it was.

2680
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 3: That was weird, Luke, speaking of weird, if I never

2681
02:00:02,640 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 3: have to see Chavis Junior again, it'll be too sad.

2682
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 1: Okay, well, this'd be the last time you see him.

2683
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 17: Uh.

2684
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember after he fought Canelo in twenty seventeen

2685
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:13,120
Speaker 1: that that night he ordered two hookers brought him back

2686
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:16,480
Speaker 1: to his room, and they very infamously stole forty thousand

2687
02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 1: dollars from him.

2688
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 3: Luke, Yeah, I'm okay.

2689
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pictures floating around of it. You

2690
02:00:20,240 --> 02:00:22,640
Speaker 1: can see the eye busted up from fighting Canelo. So

2691
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 1: do you think he learned his lesson? Here's Jake or

2692
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 1: here's Shava is the day before the Jake Paul fight

2693
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 1: being asked what he's going to do if he wins.

2694
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 7: Tell me how you're going to celebrate if you beat Jake.

2695
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:37,760
Speaker 15: Paul, Mike Club, garrislub yeah, and Garris.

2696
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:39,400
Speaker 7: How much you're gonna spend on the girls, the nightclub.

2697
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:45,160
Speaker 1: The half my burs his purse. So he really just

2698
02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:47,560
Speaker 1: took this fight for the paycheck so he can afford

2699
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:48,160
Speaker 1: more once.

2700
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 3: Once again, I could not believe how many dudes I've

2701
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 3: found out by whores.

2702
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 1: Dude, he's like half my paycheck.

2703
02:00:56,240 --> 02:00:58,200
Speaker 3: Long Island. You ever bought a prostitute?

2704
02:00:58,880 --> 02:00:59,959
Speaker 8: No, I'm not a marine?

2705
02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 17: Wow?

2706
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, let's continue. We've got a couple more.

2707
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 1: Here's a reminder to wear your seatbelts. That's a tough

2708
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:20,920
Speaker 1: You think that she gets her Uh? Do you think

2709
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: her UPER rating goes down as a passenger after that? Luke?

2710
02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:26,920
Speaker 3: That was like me, oh, okay, you're allowed.

2711
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 1: To make jokes here. I mean the Jerry McKenna who.

2712
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:31,200
Speaker 3: Work on this staff other than Long Island.

2713
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: Luke, there's no and now, Luke, a public service message

2714
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 1: for anyone who can use a friend.

2715
02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 3: Get down from there. No, why not? I don't want

2716
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:43,200
Speaker 3: to be a part of this world anymore.

2717
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:45,560
Speaker 1: But this isn't the way your friends and family that

2718
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 1: care about you.

2719
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 8: My family is too far to see.

2720
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:51,040
Speaker 3: My friends don't have time for me. You don't need

2721
02:01:51,080 --> 02:01:54,600
Speaker 3: their law. You can love yourself and find new connections

2722
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 3: with who well, me for one. I can be your friend.

2723
02:01:57,400 --> 02:02:00,200
Speaker 1: Really, just get off the ledge. We can all got

2724
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 1: drinks like Canalis?

2725
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 3: Where's Canalis? Canalis? Nothing out?

2726
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:15,080
Speaker 1: Bitch bisits ping and Jerry McCambridge once love that clip.

2727
02:02:15,160 --> 02:02:20,320
Speaker 1: Luke one more segment for you, dude. Do you remember

2728
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 1: when Ketchup packets are left too long somewhere? Like I

2729
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 1: used to work at this newspaper that had all this

2730
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:25,600
Speaker 1: expired food and all the things. They're like, oh, we

2731
02:02:25,600 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 1: got ketchup in that drawer. Every Ketchup packet put out

2732
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:30,000
Speaker 1: purple Ketchup, and I'd still put it on the hot

2733
02:02:30,000 --> 02:02:31,800
Speaker 1: dogs that I would buy. And that's probably explains why

2734
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 1: I am the way I am today. Have you ever

2735
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:35,280
Speaker 1: had purple expired ketchup is discussed?

2736
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:36,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm not a raccoon.

2737
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:39,720
Speaker 1: All right. You also like restaurants with high ratings in

2738
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 1: New York City, right, Like you're a big ratings guy.

2739
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:42,800
Speaker 3: I mean if they're affordable.

2740
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's hear from some New Yorkers about this.

2741
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:46,480
Speaker 1: What's the best restaurant in New York City.

2742
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 3: I don't eat a lot of restaurants. I like to

2743
02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 3: stay home, get some purple ketchup, shoot it into my asshole, honestly, man,

2744
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:54,400
Speaker 3: eating out of soap RICEY usually just hit the supermarket.

2745
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:56,120
Speaker 3: They have a purple ketchup there that I like to

2746
02:02:56,240 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 3: just squeeze.

2747
02:02:57,280 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 8: My It's this little hole in the wall on the

2748
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,040
Speaker 8: lower east side. It's called I stayed home and shot

2749
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:02,080
Speaker 8: purple ketchup into my.

2750
02:03:02,080 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 13: Own so I shoot it up in my un til

2751
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:06,160
Speaker 13: I get home hard and the musch force I can.

2752
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:08,920
Speaker 3: It's going forty fifty miles per hour minimum. I'm really sick.

2753
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 3: I get really sick from it. We don't really bab

2754
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 3: would we do? The other night we shot purple ketchup

2755
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:14,680
Speaker 3: into each other's.

2756
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 12: Appatots I usually you lose my appetite for other stuff.

2757
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 13: Is of how sick I get from the purple ketchup

2758
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:23,520
Speaker 13: and and how it's it's in and it's in my app.

2759
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 1: That's all the shit I can handle this week.

2760
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:37,840
Speaker 3: See mimas, see MIAs. All right, you had a couple

2761
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:38,880
Speaker 3: bangers in there, but it's.

2762
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: Like, hey, you know, I did put that together under

2763
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 1: the influence. So there you go. Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

2764
02:03:46,440 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2765
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:49,200
Speaker 1: You can reach the show. You can also like and subscribe.

2766
02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:51,320
Speaker 1: But we got off that bubble of whatever bubble we

2767
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:53,760
Speaker 1: were on, like one hundred and seventy seven thousand subscribers.

2768
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 1: They think we'd never gain more, We've gained more. All right, awesome,

2769
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:02,000
Speaker 1: thank you morning Combat Dot Shop for all your merch needs.

2770
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:04,960
Speaker 1: Last chance to get the which ones, the uh.

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Speaker 8: Skits, some bits, shirts and hoodie.

2772
02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:08,919
Speaker 3: And the last day Today is the last day.

2773
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:11,919
Speaker 8: Releasing the next drop on Thursday's episode.

2774
02:04:11,960 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 1: So too, So we'll be back this Thursday. No more

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02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 1: Friday episodes, fourth of July. This week Thursday, This Thursday,

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02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:20,320
Speaker 1: July third, eleven am Eastern on YouTube. Check it out.

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02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 1: We'll have new merch. Get your final from batch number

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02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: one at morning Combat dot Shop right now. Luke Thomas,

2779
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 1: anything else you want to say to these people before

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02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 1: you catch a train?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Not the Osborne kind, because I know that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: It's not a joke set up. I'm just having conversation

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Speaker 1: with a friend.

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Speaker 3: I really can't believe they did that on that way

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Speaker 3: and show. That's insane that they did that.

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Speaker 1: I was just as blown away by bisbeing doing that,

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Speaker 1: although it was a well timed joke. I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: can't really do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm actually kind of just wow,

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Speaker 3: they really went there.

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Speaker 1: But that's why I put the purple ketchup bit on,

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Speaker 1: just to kind of like take you down.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, shooting shooting purple ketchup up your buttthole is

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Speaker 3: really quite importan. No, thank you for watching the show.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you trying to give a review of that. Literally,

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Speaker 3: I can't finish it. There's a little bit and I

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Speaker 3: had most of it. It made me feel kind of

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Speaker 3: gross halfway through the show, which the other energy drinks

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Speaker 3: don't do. So that'll be the last one of those

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Speaker 3: I have. By the way, on the front it says

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Speaker 3: natural energy. We have it, or if you can see

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Speaker 3: it now it's too far away. It says natural energy

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Speaker 3: right there at the top. I don't think it's very natural.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, I now have full blown AIDS.

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Speaker 1: That's Luke Thomas. I was Brian Campbell. It was great

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Speaker 1: to do the show with you. Long Island Lucas here

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Speaker 1: two of the main card minute check out his work

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Speaker 1: and check us out. This Thursday, July third, eleven am,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back a pre fourth of July Live episode

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Speaker 1: to set you up for the weekend, which is what's

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Speaker 1: going on this weekend.

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Speaker 3: I think No, it's July fourth. I think there's jack

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Speaker 3: ship last weekend. So I worked every weekend in June.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to take a week this way.

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Speaker 1: You give like the fireworks safe thing, or maybe you'll

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Speaker 1: hold that for Thursday.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't mind. I people lose their fingers, go

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Speaker 3: ahead and be a dumb fuck. Makes for good fodder.

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Speaker 3: On have you seen the ship? What I will say

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Speaker 3: is yes. What I will say is don't drink and drive.

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Speaker 1: Don't please call an uber, call a friend, all right.

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Speaker 3: Call a whrror PT, purple ketchup of your ass.

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Speaker 1: Whatever you got to do to get through it. We

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Speaker 1: are Morning Combat. It's amazing. We're still here, but we're

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Speaker 1: not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 1: So if you want the truth in combat sports, you

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02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:20,480
Speaker 1: know who gives it to you, raw dog style like Roval,

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02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 1: no head movement. That's what we're talking about. For LT

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Speaker 1: it's b C and the great staff that we have here.

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Speaker 1: Like l I L. Take care of yourself, have a

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Speaker 1: great time and enjoy the rest of your summer here.

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Speaker 1: We're out of here.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.