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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football, percent of by Nerd Wallet. We are

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Speaker 1: live in New York City. It is a Monday, August eighth.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jamie yard All, alongside Kyle Brand, Peter Straeger,

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Speaker 1: and a Super Bowl champion Jason mccordy. That must feel

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Speaker 1: time for the lead blackball. Hey, we had the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game last week, but preseason week one, it's

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Speaker 1: just a couple of days away. Guys. Here's a schedule.

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Speaker 1: M and NFL Network is your home for every preseason game,

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Speaker 1: including twenty two live games. So get the full schedule

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Speaker 1: at NFL dot com slash Preseason. It all starts on

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Speaker 1: Thursday when the Patriots host the Giants. And for a

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Speaker 1: Brian Dable made it pretty clear yesterday who we are

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Speaker 1: important to play football to have live reps. How many

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night right here on NFL Network, including one

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Remember the team decided not to pick up

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Speaker 1: his fifth year option back in April. So how can

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Speaker 1: It can't just be hey, he had a really good game.

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Speaker 1: He flashed that's what That's what we've already seen from him.

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Speaker 1: You know what, the worst idea in the history of

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Speaker 1: you hear, yeah, everyone's playing Week one in preseason. Are

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Speaker 1: They had one last year. You combine the prior three seasons,

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Speaker 1: they have three. They now have five. This is a

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Speaker 1: whole new territory for Cincinnati. How are they Burrow and

422
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Speaker 1: Chase me like perfect? They need to be there eight

423
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Speaker 1: times for all I care? But how are they going

424
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Speaker 1: to handle this newfound attention where everybody's there? During training

425
00:20:00,708 --> 00:20:05,548
Speaker 1: camp we showed Jamar Chases GQ magazine sets. Now everybody's watching.

426
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Speaker 1: How are you going to respond to that? Now that

427
00:20:07,828 --> 00:20:09,788
Speaker 1: all the attentions on you, They're gonna love it so

428
00:20:09,908 --> 00:20:13,068
Speaker 1: because hell, hath no fury like a Joe Burrow scorn.

429
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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a pissed off Joe Burrow? Yes,

430
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Speaker 1: yet we have because when he was in high school,

431
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Speaker 1: no one was talking about Joe Burrow. When he was

432
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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, no one was talking about Joe Burrow.

433
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Speaker 1: We didn't even realize we were watching a scorn Joe

434
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Speaker 1: Burrow until he won a national championship at LSU. He

435
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Speaker 1: goes about his business in a very collected way. But

436
00:20:34,348 --> 00:20:38,148
Speaker 1: make no mistake, this is a competitive, fiery, passionate young

437
00:20:38,188 --> 00:20:40,428
Speaker 1: man who feels like along the way, I don't care

438
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Speaker 1: what you say about Oh it was a quarterback battlet

439
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Speaker 1: Ohio State or then I really could have gone with

440
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Well he didn't. Nebraska didn't recruit him and

441
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Speaker 1: that really pissed him off. And then he goes to

442
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. He doesn't win the starting job in his

443
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Speaker 1: home state. He goes to LSU and he wins a

444
00:20:54,908 --> 00:20:57,668
Speaker 1: title because he was out there to prove something. He

445
00:20:57,748 --> 00:21:00,148
Speaker 1: just lost a Super Bowl for crying out loud. He

446
00:21:00,308 --> 00:21:03,428
Speaker 1: is on a mission with the Bengal Hive and he

447
00:21:03,588 --> 00:21:06,188
Speaker 1: lost it with the ball in his hand, saber down

448
00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:08,348
Speaker 1: field and he couldn't make the play. And if he's

449
00:21:08,388 --> 00:21:10,788
Speaker 1: wired like that, that's as good as a get. Absolutely

450
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Speaker 1: Panthers training Mike Garafolo or in South Carolina to give

451
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Speaker 1: us the latest on the quarterback situation. Thank you, Jamie,

452
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Speaker 1: and good morning from Spartanburg. Good morning football from Spartanburg.

453
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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport with me here ready for Panthers camp. Wouldn't

454
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Speaker 1: intriguing team, really intriguing team? Up and down the roster.

455
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Speaker 1: So where would you like to start when it comes

456
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Speaker 1: to the roster the quarterback. We'll start with the quarterback

457
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Speaker 1: position because you come here to Panther's camping and there's

458
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of things you're talking When

459
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Speaker 1: we talk about the defense, that's pretty fice you talk

460
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Speaker 1: about the first round draft pick is going to be

461
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Speaker 1: slotted in the left tackle, But all anybody wants to

462
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Speaker 1: hear about is the quarterback. So, yes, it is an

463
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Speaker 1: open competition between Baker Mayfield, who they just traded for,

464
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Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold. They are splitting reps, some with the ones,

465
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Speaker 1: some with the two's kind of making sure they take

466
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Speaker 1: turns in both get equal opportunity. But Mike, it has

467
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Speaker 1: been pretty clear though the reps have been about equal.

468
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Speaker 1: It's clear that this is Baker Mayfield's job to lose

469
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Speaker 1: here in Carolina. Yeah, the ability, the way it was

470
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Speaker 1: playing to me, you know, maybe Darnold's kind of been

471
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Speaker 1: more the steady guy, the safer guy for the entire

472
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Speaker 1: training camp, offseason, even when Baker wasn't here, obviously, but

473
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield's got a more ability. The wild plays, the

474
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Speaker 1: flash plays have been more toward Baker Mayfield and he's

475
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Speaker 1: only continuing to learn this offense. I mean, Sam Darnold

476
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Speaker 1: got the jump when they came here. He certainly knew

477
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Speaker 1: much more about this playbook than Baker Mayfield did at

478
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Speaker 1: the time. So that's going to continue to grow, and

479
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Speaker 1: you would think that that would continue to give him

480
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Speaker 1: an edge as well. Now they have been splitting the reps.

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Speaker 1: I would expect in some form or fashion that to

482
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Speaker 1: continue into the preseason. But once we get through game

483
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Speaker 1: one game two, we're gonna have a real field for

484
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Speaker 1: who's winning. I think probably best case scenario for this

485
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Speaker 1: team is if Baker takes it and wins it. But

486
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Speaker 1: this is going to be a defense led team, team

487
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Speaker 1: that relies on stopping people and the run game. A

488
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Speaker 1: few better running backs when he's healthy than Christian McCaffrey

489
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Speaker 1: and Mike Just from the people we've spoken to today,

490
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Speaker 1: it seems pretty clear that they are not limiting his

491
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Speaker 1: reps but asking him to be a little smarter, kind

492
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Speaker 1: of limit that wear and tear. They've given him a

493
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Speaker 1: little more more breathers, I would say, than they did

494
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Speaker 1: in the past. And you know, used to run forty

495
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Speaker 1: fifty yards after every single carry. Now probably twenty yards,

496
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Speaker 1: taking it easy on himself, just to make sure that

497
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Speaker 1: when the season starts and they need him, that he

498
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Speaker 1: is out there on the field. Yeah, don't prove anything

499
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Speaker 1: to yourself. Don't prove anything to us. We know exactly

500
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Speaker 1: what you can do. Be smart about your body. And

501
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Speaker 1: if he's there, no matter who the quarterback is, Mayfield,

502
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Speaker 1: you know it'll be it'll be better to have that

503
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Speaker 1: guy behind you and make him plays for sure. So

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Speaker 1: back to you guys in New York as we await

505
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Speaker 1: practice here and look how far Christian McCaffrey's running and

506
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Speaker 1: who's making the whale plays at quarterback Mayfield right, make

507
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Speaker 1: sure with us more GM F B Jan Flater is

508
00:24:05,468 --> 00:24:08,828
Speaker 1: out at Saints training camp. She has everything we want

509
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Speaker 1: to know. They're in New Orleans. We're gonna start with

510
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Speaker 1: the offensive player of the year though in twenty nineteen,

511
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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas Jane. We haven't seen a lot of him

512
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Speaker 1: on the field since that remarkable season. So what is

513
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Speaker 1: the latest of the Saints number one wide out. Well, listen,

514
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Speaker 1: leading up to camp, Jamie, everyone told me that he

515
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Speaker 1: was trending in the right direction. He spent mini camp

516
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Speaker 1: in OTA's here rehabbing, but he made a significant jump

517
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Speaker 1: this weekend. And when I say significant jump, I mean

518
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Speaker 1: he participated in the team drills on Saturday, and everyone

519
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Speaker 1: I talked to you said he looked good. The only problem,

520
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Speaker 1: and Dennis Allen talked about this after practice, was he

521
00:24:39,508 --> 00:24:41,268
Speaker 1: ended up on the ground a little bit more than

522
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Speaker 1: they would like. But the good news about that at

523
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Speaker 1: least they know what his body can take and where

524
00:24:45,948 --> 00:24:48,508
Speaker 1: he's sort of at in his recovery. But it seemed

525
00:24:48,508 --> 00:24:51,348
Speaker 1: like the communication was there, And I even inquired how

526
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Speaker 1: getting along with Jarvis Landry, and I was told Jarvis

527
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Speaker 1: and him have a lot of similar traits, especially when

528
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Speaker 1: Jarvis was younger, and they think having Jarvis in the

529
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Speaker 1: building is good for Michael Thomas. And if you look

530
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Speaker 1: at this receiving corps without Michael, well they've ruggled. In fact,

531
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Speaker 1: if you go back, last time we saw him was

532
00:25:06,828 --> 00:25:08,988
Speaker 1: back in the twenty twenty playoffs, they were twenty ninth

533
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Speaker 1: in passing offense. Last season they were seventh when they

534
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Speaker 1: had Michael Thomas on the roster, So that is a

535
00:25:14,548 --> 00:25:17,948
Speaker 1: big deal. I'm also told Chris Alava is the real deal,

536
00:25:18,068 --> 00:25:20,908
Speaker 1: so maybe they might be able to get some productivity

537
00:25:20,948 --> 00:25:23,668
Speaker 1: out of this receiving course, something that they have sorely lacked.

538
00:25:23,828 --> 00:25:25,788
Speaker 1: What about the defensive side of the the ball. Let's talk

539
00:25:25,788 --> 00:25:29,068
Speaker 1: about the massive edition the Saints defense added and three

540
00:25:29,108 --> 00:25:32,868
Speaker 1: time Pro bowler Tyron Matthew, a native of New Orleans.

541
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Speaker 1: How's the Honey Badger look in? How's he acclamat and

542
00:25:36,268 --> 00:25:38,148
Speaker 1: to getting used to a new football team. Well, I

543
00:25:38,188 --> 00:25:40,588
Speaker 1: think there's a bit of a home or excitement about

544
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Speaker 1: this guy. Obviously, they've got a building named after him

545
00:25:43,588 --> 00:25:46,348
Speaker 1: at LSU over there at the athletic facility. He went

546
00:25:46,388 --> 00:25:48,508
Speaker 1: to school here, grew up here with his grandparents. But

547
00:25:48,628 --> 00:25:51,388
Speaker 1: he was noticeably absent from at least six practices to

548
00:25:51,388 --> 00:25:53,988
Speaker 1: start the training camp. He was back this weekend participating

549
00:25:53,988 --> 00:25:55,788
Speaker 1: in the team drills, and I gotta tell you, Jason

550
00:25:55,908 --> 00:25:58,468
Speaker 1: Michael had a great day on Saturday, but it was

551
00:25:58,508 --> 00:26:01,068
Speaker 1: the Honey Badger that at least spoiled one of those

552
00:26:01,068 --> 00:26:03,548
Speaker 1: with a fumble recovery. So they feel really good about

553
00:26:03,628 --> 00:26:06,148
Speaker 1: having Tyrone on that side of the ball. Obviously, right now,

554
00:26:06,188 --> 00:26:08,548
Speaker 1: they just want to make sure that the communications happening

555
00:26:08,548 --> 00:26:10,108
Speaker 1: and of course that he gets a little bit more

556
00:26:10,148 --> 00:26:12,868
Speaker 1: familiar with this playbook, but seeing both of those guys

557
00:26:12,988 --> 00:26:15,108
Speaker 1: on the field gives a lot of optimism around here.

558
00:26:15,108 --> 00:26:17,148
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of questions about this Saints team,

559
00:26:17,148 --> 00:26:19,588
Speaker 1: both on offense and defense. But as I've talked about

560
00:26:19,588 --> 00:26:21,828
Speaker 1: in the off season, having a guy like Dennis Allen

561
00:26:21,908 --> 00:26:24,028
Speaker 1: in the building who's been here for so many years,

562
00:26:24,068 --> 00:26:26,268
Speaker 1: there's at least some continuity. And when you look at

563
00:26:26,308 --> 00:26:28,788
Speaker 1: some of the players they're getting back, guys like Jamis Winston,

564
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Speaker 1: who I'm also told has looked really strong out here.

565
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Speaker 1: In fact, a lot of people said that he seems

566
00:26:33,268 --> 00:26:35,948
Speaker 1: to have matured a bit. He feels more vocal in

567
00:26:36,028 --> 00:26:37,828
Speaker 1: the huddle, and it doesn't seem like he has any

568
00:26:37,868 --> 00:26:40,308
Speaker 1: limitations after coming back from his injury. Things seem to

569
00:26:40,308 --> 00:26:41,948
Speaker 1: be trending up here in New Orleans, and maybe this

570
00:26:41,988 --> 00:26:43,348
Speaker 1: is a good thing that they're flying a little bit

571
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Speaker 1: below the radar. And good news this afternoon is we're

572
00:26:45,788 --> 00:26:48,268
Speaker 1: going to have everyone here. Ladany and Tomlinson will be

573
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Speaker 1: anchoring from Bettery with me, and then we'll have guys

574
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Speaker 1: like Mark Ingram, Dennis Allen, at Jarvis Landry, and Jamis

575
00:26:53,708 --> 00:26:56,108
Speaker 1: Winston all stepping by the set. That sounds incredible jam,

576
00:26:56,148 --> 00:26:58,668
Speaker 1: but we can't let you go about this. The Saints

577
00:26:58,748 --> 00:27:01,868
Speaker 1: defense looks like a throwback to another time, or maybe

578
00:27:01,908 --> 00:27:05,948
Speaker 1: even to medieval times. A sooth good sir, May I

579
00:27:06,028 --> 00:27:09,428
Speaker 1: have your finest leg of mutton or a flagon of

580
00:27:09,508 --> 00:27:13,348
Speaker 1: your best mead? Jane, what are we looking at? Where

581
00:27:13,388 --> 00:27:17,988
Speaker 1: were you and regaleless with your tale of pageantry in battle? Well,

582
00:27:18,028 --> 00:27:20,948
Speaker 1: I don't have returned, so I'm completely caught off guard

583
00:27:20,988 --> 00:27:23,228
Speaker 1: by this. But I went to Medial Times this weekend

584
00:27:23,268 --> 00:27:25,908
Speaker 1: for a friend's birthday. Yes I'm an adult. Yes we

585
00:27:26,028 --> 00:27:28,548
Speaker 1: all dressed up, and yes we went to the bars after.

586
00:27:28,828 --> 00:27:32,748
Speaker 1: And I was asked multiple times if my imdbeat page

587
00:27:32,788 --> 00:27:36,468
Speaker 1: reflects Renaissance fair actor. The answer is no, But I

588
00:27:36,508 --> 00:27:39,148
Speaker 1: told you my next step is comic con. So I

589
00:27:39,228 --> 00:27:41,108
Speaker 1: just got really excited about maybe I'm gonna do a

590
00:27:41,188 --> 00:27:43,628
Speaker 1: costume theme every weekend. If you haven't been the Medial

591
00:27:43,668 --> 00:27:48,068
Speaker 1: Times as an adult, it's so much better with adult beverages, Jane.

592
00:27:48,068 --> 00:27:50,708
Speaker 1: We'll look forward to your next report from the Reinforest Cafe.

593
00:27:51,548 --> 00:27:56,708
Speaker 1: Thank you, I love you. There you go, You're the

594
00:27:57,188 --> 00:28:00,268
Speaker 1: all right, So, Kyle, you mentioned on Friday's show and

595
00:28:00,428 --> 00:28:02,628
Speaker 1: Today Show that you think there will be some shocking

596
00:28:02,668 --> 00:28:04,988
Speaker 1: team that emerges from the NF. See all at the

597
00:28:04,988 --> 00:28:07,588
Speaker 1: Bengals did last year in the NFC and the AFC.

598
00:28:07,708 --> 00:28:09,788
Speaker 1: Excuse me that they make a Lombardi run? So who

599
00:28:09,868 --> 00:28:12,628
Speaker 1: will be your Bengals of the NFC this season? Could

600
00:28:12,668 --> 00:28:16,388
Speaker 1: the Saints be that team? It's interesting, but I'm still

601
00:28:16,428 --> 00:28:18,788
Speaker 1: marinating and I can't get the chainmail out of my head. So, Peter,

602
00:28:18,788 --> 00:28:21,428
Speaker 1: wyn't you want made a start? Apparently? Of course God does.

603
00:28:21,668 --> 00:28:24,508
Speaker 1: It's a good question, like are they sneaky Super Bowl contenders?

604
00:28:24,668 --> 00:28:27,948
Speaker 1: There's certain teams that identify a team with the quarterback

605
00:28:28,148 --> 00:28:30,668
Speaker 1: or I identify it with like the defenses. Who are

606
00:28:30,748 --> 00:28:32,588
Speaker 1: the Saints to me? Are Sean Payton? I don't know

607
00:28:32,588 --> 00:28:34,388
Speaker 1: what we're faced the franchise, Like that's the face of

608
00:28:34,388 --> 00:28:36,828
Speaker 1: the franchise, and you know, Breeze leaves and they get

609
00:28:36,868 --> 00:28:38,868
Speaker 1: even cooler, and it's like, all right, don't worry, We're

610
00:28:38,868 --> 00:28:42,148
Speaker 1: gonna get even you know, tougher on defense. Like what

611
00:28:42,388 --> 00:28:44,748
Speaker 1: is this team without Sean Payton? I don't know. And

612
00:28:44,788 --> 00:28:46,428
Speaker 1: I can't get on board with it until I see

613
00:28:46,468 --> 00:28:48,428
Speaker 1: I understand that they bring back everybody on defense, and

614
00:28:48,468 --> 00:28:50,948
Speaker 1: we love Cam Jordan and We love Lattimore and I

615
00:28:50,988 --> 00:28:53,388
Speaker 1: think Gardner Johnson would be chirping at us in medieval

616
00:28:53,388 --> 00:28:55,548
Speaker 1: times language if you can, if you wanted to shore.

617
00:28:55,748 --> 00:28:58,348
Speaker 1: But what's this, dude? What's going on? Salon was the

618
00:28:58,388 --> 00:29:00,628
Speaker 1: coach of the Raiders for a few years. Didn't work

619
00:29:00,628 --> 00:29:03,148
Speaker 1: out obviously, wasn't great circumstances. They have the players, they

620
00:29:03,268 --> 00:29:05,948
Speaker 1: have the organization, they're playing on a baseball field. Um.

621
00:29:06,908 --> 00:29:08,708
Speaker 1: Then he gets to the Saints and he's like one

622
00:29:08,708 --> 00:29:11,148
Speaker 1: of the best offensive coordinators. We get round two as

623
00:29:11,188 --> 00:29:15,988
Speaker 1: a head coach. It's a very small, small, small group

624
00:29:16,108 --> 00:29:19,108
Speaker 1: of guys who are first year coaches and won a

625
00:29:19,148 --> 00:29:21,628
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And you know, McCaffrey, you mentioned it. They

626
00:29:21,668 --> 00:29:24,748
Speaker 1: were Adolphins after Shula moved on, and then at the

627
00:29:24,748 --> 00:29:26,428
Speaker 1: Coults without to Shoolam down and then of course you

628
00:29:26,508 --> 00:29:29,348
Speaker 1: had George Seyffert after Bill Walsh left. The Niners were like,

629
00:29:29,748 --> 00:29:33,428
Speaker 1: is Dennis Allen doing better than what Sean Payton did

630
00:29:33,668 --> 00:29:36,068
Speaker 1: with what he had? Like, I don't see it. Lays

631
00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:37,708
Speaker 1: me a little bit. With Josh McDaniels was going through

632
00:29:37,828 --> 00:29:40,748
Speaker 1: like he had a run at it. Right in the

633
00:29:40,788 --> 00:29:43,308
Speaker 1: second show, I'm watching Jamis throw a towel around him, like,

634
00:29:43,348 --> 00:29:45,588
Speaker 1: I'm not this could be the team. To your point,

635
00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:48,028
Speaker 1: Rogers has receivers that we're not so sure about and

636
00:29:48,028 --> 00:29:50,508
Speaker 1: who knows where his game is at right now based

637
00:29:50,548 --> 00:29:54,908
Speaker 1: on the ayahuasca whatever else? Fine? Uh Rams Matthew Steffords

638
00:29:54,908 --> 00:29:57,148
Speaker 1: had thought a pass this summer? Great? Fine, Then we've got,

639
00:29:57,188 --> 00:30:00,308
Speaker 1: of course the Buccaneers. No Ryan Jensen, Tom Brady, just

640
00:30:00,348 --> 00:30:02,788
Speaker 1: Trent four back. There is going to be a team

641
00:30:02,868 --> 00:30:05,068
Speaker 1: that's not those three who has a great season and

642
00:30:05,108 --> 00:30:08,028
Speaker 1: it's in the mix. Is it the Saints? I need

643
00:30:08,028 --> 00:30:11,428
Speaker 1: to see a little bit more, you're I don't. I

644
00:30:11,428 --> 00:30:13,308
Speaker 1: don't think it's the Saints. I think what you just

645
00:30:13,308 --> 00:30:16,068
Speaker 1: started with the face of the franchise. It's a quarterback

646
00:30:16,188 --> 00:30:19,028
Speaker 1: driven league and we've watched Jamis throughout the years. We

647
00:30:19,148 --> 00:30:21,748
Speaker 1: kind of know what he is. And for me, I mean,

648
00:30:21,788 --> 00:30:24,428
Speaker 1: his record is he's thirty three and forty four his career.

649
00:30:24,868 --> 00:30:26,948
Speaker 1: I've been to the playoffs one time. That was when

650
00:30:27,068 --> 00:30:29,948
Speaker 1: Drew Brees were leading them, and he threw a pass

651
00:30:29,988 --> 00:30:32,068
Speaker 1: in that game, which was a really nice pass on

652
00:30:32,108 --> 00:30:34,708
Speaker 1: a trick play. But I don't see him taking them

653
00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:36,908
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. Now. I love the Saints defense.

654
00:30:36,948 --> 00:30:40,028
Speaker 1: They finished fourth last year and points against and they

655
00:30:40,108 --> 00:30:42,828
Speaker 1: have the Cam Jordan's, they have the Demario Davis is

656
00:30:42,868 --> 00:30:45,428
Speaker 1: in the middle. They added the Honey Badger or Marcus

657
00:30:45,428 --> 00:30:47,748
Speaker 1: May so they have some weapons out there on the

658
00:30:47,788 --> 00:30:50,188
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. But similar last week we

659
00:30:50,228 --> 00:30:53,348
Speaker 1: talked about the Pittsburgh Seelers. Is their defense good enough

660
00:30:53,348 --> 00:30:56,028
Speaker 1: to carry them into the playoffs? Now today we're asking

661
00:30:56,348 --> 00:30:58,388
Speaker 1: is the Saints defense good enough to carry them to

662
00:30:58,428 --> 00:31:02,068
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl? And get it? Like no, like absolutely not.

663
00:31:02,188 --> 00:31:04,228
Speaker 1: I don't there's no reason for us to sit here

664
00:31:04,228 --> 00:31:06,948
Speaker 1: today in August and to believe that the Saints are

665
00:31:06,988 --> 00:31:09,188
Speaker 1: the team. Like you said, we didn't say this about

666
00:31:09,188 --> 00:31:13,788
Speaker 1: the Bengals last year, and they made it. The Bengals

667
00:31:13,788 --> 00:31:16,708
Speaker 1: did as so many favors. Because now anything's possible. It's

668
00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:18,908
Speaker 1: sure will Charlie Bucket can find that golden ticket and

669
00:31:18,988 --> 00:31:20,828
Speaker 1: go to the chalk. In fact, it's all possible. So

670
00:31:20,908 --> 00:31:22,748
Speaker 1: let me bring this full circle. I think that when

671
00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:24,708
Speaker 1: we talk about the AFC, oh my god, there's thirteen

672
00:31:24,708 --> 00:31:26,348
Speaker 1: teams and go to the Super Bowls loaded In the NFC,

673
00:31:26,388 --> 00:31:28,828
Speaker 1: there's really just three front workers and Peter mentioned I'm

674
00:31:28,828 --> 00:31:32,268
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and the Rams and I guess the yeah.

675
00:31:32,308 --> 00:31:34,388
Speaker 1: So they're all have their own flaws in their own ways.

676
00:31:34,428 --> 00:31:38,148
Speaker 1: So that's thirteen other teams. And my take is we

677
00:31:38,268 --> 00:31:41,428
Speaker 1: could get an NFC version of the Bengals, meaning not

678
00:31:41,508 --> 00:31:43,428
Speaker 1: a team that takes the next step or team that

679
00:31:43,468 --> 00:31:47,908
Speaker 1: makes it jump a ridiculous biblical leap from terrible to

680
00:31:48,028 --> 00:31:49,828
Speaker 1: oh my god, like the Bengals are in the super Bowl.

681
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Speaker 1: Here's my list of teams that would qualify for that criteria.

682
00:31:52,268 --> 00:31:54,628
Speaker 1: This is how this is not everybody does. This is

683
00:31:54,668 --> 00:31:57,748
Speaker 1: what I got. The Baker Mayfield Panthers under year three

684
00:31:57,748 --> 00:32:00,108
Speaker 1: of Matt rule are in the NFC Top story, a

685
00:32:00,268 --> 00:32:02,988
Speaker 1: huge story. Daniel Jones just figured it out. Brian Daviel,

686
00:32:02,988 --> 00:32:04,828
Speaker 1: they made a leap and they won the East. Carson

687
00:32:04,868 --> 00:32:07,268
Speaker 1: Wentz tapped into that talent and the defense was great.

688
00:32:07,908 --> 00:32:11,028
Speaker 1: What guys, Marcus Mariota became a thing. He was incredible work.

689
00:32:11,028 --> 00:32:12,388
Speaker 1: He got bench and is rid of the rookie who

690
00:32:12,468 --> 00:32:14,948
Speaker 1: knows the Lions Dan Campbell made it work. Or the

691
00:32:14,988 --> 00:32:17,628
Speaker 1: Bears justin Fields turns into a Joe Burrow second year

692
00:32:17,668 --> 00:32:19,988
Speaker 1: sensation and oh my god, the Bears are in the

693
00:32:20,068 --> 00:32:23,908
Speaker 1: FC tattle game. Those all look anywhere from questionable to

694
00:32:24,148 --> 00:32:26,668
Speaker 1: asinine all of those, and yet I would put the

695
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Speaker 1: Bengals in the same category. Those are my picks the teams.

696
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Speaker 1: Now as far as the Saints, I know the problem.

697
00:32:33,268 --> 00:32:35,268
Speaker 1: Why not? Because I think, to me, your thing is

698
00:32:35,268 --> 00:32:37,988
Speaker 1: someone that no one's picking. Yeah, no one cares. Giants

699
00:32:38,668 --> 00:32:40,148
Speaker 1: was picking the Saint They don't belong on that list.

700
00:32:40,228 --> 00:32:43,788
Speaker 1: I can't get them there. It's that I've seen enough

701
00:32:43,908 --> 00:32:48,068
Speaker 1: of Jamis. I've seen so much Jamis seventy seven games

702
00:32:48,108 --> 00:32:50,388
Speaker 1: he's played. And I always say, when someone tells you

703
00:32:50,428 --> 00:32:54,308
Speaker 1: who they are, believe them. Look a fun character to

704
00:32:54,308 --> 00:32:56,188
Speaker 1: watch on the field and all that. But like I

705
00:32:56,268 --> 00:32:59,108
Speaker 1: just still if we're talking about Jamis is gonna beat

706
00:32:59,268 --> 00:33:01,908
Speaker 1: Rogers and the Players week one last year they play

707
00:33:01,948 --> 00:33:04,108
Speaker 1: them on a neutral field, nice and and the Saints

708
00:33:04,428 --> 00:33:06,828
Speaker 1: the crap out of the Packers with Aaron Rodgers Week

709
00:33:06,868 --> 00:33:10,228
Speaker 1: one is witchcraft. It's always very gootally totally. Are you

710
00:33:10,268 --> 00:33:12,748
Speaker 1: making the case week I might You're gonna get better

711
00:33:12,788 --> 00:33:15,868
Speaker 1: than that, James Jameis Winston. Yes, I can't get there.

712
00:33:15,948 --> 00:33:19,348
Speaker 1: I think the offense loses more losing Sean Payton than

713
00:33:19,388 --> 00:33:22,228
Speaker 1: it does going from Breeze is anybody's checked in with

714
00:33:22,268 --> 00:33:25,228
Speaker 1: Alvin Kmary lately, then ain't pretty, guys, ain't pretty. And

715
00:33:25,268 --> 00:33:27,188
Speaker 1: I'm from what I read, there's gonna be some issues

716
00:33:27,188 --> 00:33:28,708
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season and he may sit

717
00:33:28,748 --> 00:33:30,268
Speaker 1: down for a while or a long while. He's their

718
00:33:30,268 --> 00:33:32,748
Speaker 1: best player on offense, the best player may be out.

719
00:33:32,828 --> 00:33:35,548
Speaker 1: So I think that's pertinent, all right, So what is

720
00:33:35,588 --> 00:33:37,748
Speaker 1: it now? With a new playoff structure, everyone except for

721
00:33:37,788 --> 00:33:40,388
Speaker 1: one team from each conference gets to only play three

722
00:33:40,428 --> 00:33:42,868
Speaker 1: playoff games. Otherwise everyone else plays four. Is that how

723
00:33:42,908 --> 00:33:45,188
Speaker 1: that works? So you're telling me that the New Orleans

724
00:33:45,188 --> 00:33:48,548
Speaker 1: Saints can go for are gonna win four games in

725
00:33:48,708 --> 00:33:53,108
Speaker 1: January and they're gonna beat teams like the Packers. Yeah, okay,

726
00:33:53,108 --> 00:33:54,708
Speaker 1: so then let's let's say they do that. Okay, Now

727
00:33:54,708 --> 00:33:57,228
Speaker 1: they're gonna go play the Buccaneers. Okay, okay, yep, yep,

728
00:33:57,268 --> 00:33:58,788
Speaker 1: we got it, we got it. And now let's gonna

729
00:33:58,788 --> 00:34:02,228
Speaker 1: beat the Rams super Bowl. Like it's not the super Bowl.

730
00:34:02,308 --> 00:34:05,188
Speaker 1: I'm with Jason, Like it's playoffs. Yeah, Like, let's get

731
00:34:05,188 --> 00:34:08,308
Speaker 1: out Bengals last year beat the number one seed Titans

732
00:34:08,508 --> 00:34:11,788
Speaker 1: on the road, the Raiders and and the Chiefs and

733
00:34:11,908 --> 00:34:14,828
Speaker 1: Arrowhead like it has happened, Jamie. The Jaguars were a

734
00:34:14,908 --> 00:34:18,868
Speaker 1: bad play away. The AFC as not as powerful as

735
00:34:18,908 --> 00:34:20,868
Speaker 1: the NFC is going to be this season. I mean,

736
00:34:21,188 --> 00:34:22,908
Speaker 1: what was the nature of the AFC last year that

737
00:34:22,908 --> 00:34:24,468
Speaker 1: the Bengals were able to pull that We're off. It's

738
00:34:24,468 --> 00:34:26,468
Speaker 1: just it's also the makeup of the team. We're not

739
00:34:26,548 --> 00:34:29,628
Speaker 1: talking about a Jamar Chase. I mean, Olave Jane just

740
00:34:29,708 --> 00:34:31,708
Speaker 1: said he looks like the real deal. But it's it's

741
00:34:31,748 --> 00:34:34,708
Speaker 1: not Jamar Chase. I mean Michael Thomas, we don't know. Yeah,

742
00:34:34,748 --> 00:34:37,268
Speaker 1: Alba Kamara, we don't know. And the Bengals are drafting

743
00:34:37,268 --> 00:34:40,188
Speaker 1: at the top of the draft every year, and those

744
00:34:40,268 --> 00:34:42,868
Speaker 1: picks started to show up. Last year. You had Joe

745
00:34:42,908 --> 00:34:46,188
Speaker 1: Burrow now coming into his own kind and took off.

746
00:34:46,188 --> 00:34:48,508
Speaker 1: And to what you just said, do we expect Jamis

747
00:34:48,628 --> 00:34:51,468
Speaker 1: this upcoming season to just take off and have a

748
00:34:51,588 --> 00:34:53,548
Speaker 1: year like we've never seen. Well, this is when we

749
00:34:53,628 --> 00:34:56,188
Speaker 1: jumping on Jason Jamis rep on the field a round

750
00:34:56,188 --> 00:34:58,108
Speaker 1: the league. It's Jamis Winston week. You're playing either the

751
00:34:58,148 --> 00:35:00,108
Speaker 1: Bucks or the Saints. You're going through the film. What's

752
00:35:00,108 --> 00:35:03,148
Speaker 1: everybody talking about? The defensive meetings by Jamis. Jamis can

753
00:35:03,148 --> 00:35:05,308
Speaker 1: make every single throw on the But he's gonna give

754
00:35:05,308 --> 00:35:07,588
Speaker 1: you opportunities. We saw the last year he was in Tampa,

755
00:35:07,628 --> 00:35:11,028
Speaker 1: Bay had thirty touchdowns or whatever at thirty interception and

756
00:35:11,628 --> 00:35:14,468
Speaker 1: Godwin and Michael Evans were both over a thousand yards,

757
00:35:14,468 --> 00:35:17,508
Speaker 1: had terrific seasons. But can you win a Super Bowl

758
00:35:17,508 --> 00:35:19,508
Speaker 1: with thirty and thirty? Brady came in the very next

759
00:35:19,588 --> 00:35:22,108
Speaker 1: year and not only took it to the playoffs, but

760
00:35:22,348 --> 00:35:24,828
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with the same roster. But people

761
00:35:24,828 --> 00:35:26,188
Speaker 1: are saying, you know, he's sat on the bench for

762
00:35:26,228 --> 00:35:28,388
Speaker 1: a while and he's learning, he's maturity and he's grown up.

763
00:35:28,468 --> 00:35:30,828
Speaker 1: Like you buy that for sure, He's probably grown, But

764
00:35:31,388 --> 00:35:33,868
Speaker 1: does that equate to a Super Bowl? I was a

765
00:35:33,868 --> 00:35:36,788
Speaker 1: good player, played thirteen years. I could have sat behind

766
00:35:37,108 --> 00:35:39,628
Speaker 1: name whoever you want, Dion Sanders. It wasn't getting me

767
00:35:39,628 --> 00:35:42,668
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. It wasn't happening. I love

768
00:35:42,668 --> 00:35:46,668
Speaker 1: that parallel. YEA, all right, sorry, Since it's time for

769
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Speaker 1: training camp Spotlight presented by nerd Wallet, James Palmer and

770
00:35:50,628 --> 00:35:54,388
Speaker 1: Steve Mariucci are at Chiefs training camp. They're whining, they're dining,

771
00:35:54,428 --> 00:35:57,708
Speaker 1: they're doing all the things. They're eating ribs, barbecue, pizza.

772
00:35:58,148 --> 00:35:59,908
Speaker 1: They got everything going on. Guys. We're gonna start with

773
00:35:59,948 --> 00:36:03,388
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and their flashy offense. Unfortunately, though, for Kansas City,

774
00:36:03,428 --> 00:36:05,988
Speaker 1: they're gonna be without one of their brightest stars the season,

775
00:36:06,028 --> 00:36:08,748
Speaker 1: the flashiest if you will, as wide receiver Tiree Hill

776
00:36:08,828 --> 00:36:11,348
Speaker 1: was traded to the Dolphins. So how are the Chiefs

777
00:36:11,428 --> 00:36:14,828
Speaker 1: preparing to keep their offense red hot without Tyreek Hill.

778
00:36:14,868 --> 00:36:17,508
Speaker 1: I did some recon work yesterday guys and watching this

779
00:36:17,628 --> 00:36:19,668
Speaker 1: offense operate, and it was interesting because I talked to

780
00:36:19,708 --> 00:36:21,868
Speaker 1: a couple of people after practice and watched how Patrick

781
00:36:21,868 --> 00:36:23,788
Speaker 1: Mahomes was spreading the ball around. We know all these

782
00:36:23,828 --> 00:36:26,948
Speaker 1: new faces and Juju Smith Schuster and Marquez Valdes, Scantling

783
00:36:26,948 --> 00:36:30,188
Speaker 1: and Skymore the rookie coming in at the wide receiver spot.

784
00:36:30,228 --> 00:36:32,708
Speaker 1: And I talked to safety Justin Reid, who was also

785
00:36:33,028 --> 00:36:34,508
Speaker 1: new to this team, and he told me, I think

786
00:36:34,508 --> 00:36:38,228
Speaker 1: it's going to happen organically. It's gonna happen through camp.

787
00:36:38,268 --> 00:36:41,148
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen anybody take the rains specifically, say

788
00:36:41,228 --> 00:36:43,788
Speaker 1: each day somebody kind of flashes and another name in

789
00:36:43,828 --> 00:36:45,668
Speaker 1: there moved to mcole Hardaman, the guy who knows the

790
00:36:46,628 --> 00:36:48,628
Speaker 1: speedster who has been here, so it's kind of gone

791
00:36:48,708 --> 00:36:50,988
Speaker 1: day by day as somebody else stepping up. And maybe

792
00:36:50,988 --> 00:36:52,668
Speaker 1: that's what we see as Andy Reid. I don't have

793
00:36:52,668 --> 00:36:55,548
Speaker 1: an idea what you're talking about. Organically, What does that mean?

794
00:36:55,668 --> 00:36:58,828
Speaker 1: It just happened. That just happens. You know, remember when

795
00:36:58,828 --> 00:37:01,628
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford was in Detroit and Calvin Johnson was gone,

796
00:37:01,908 --> 00:37:04,868
Speaker 1: I thought, oh boy, he retired too early. Well, Matthew

797
00:37:04,908 --> 00:37:08,108
Speaker 1: Stafford kept throwing the ball very well, didn't He spread

798
00:37:08,108 --> 00:37:11,828
Speaker 1: it around very organically, very organically, And so that's what's

799
00:37:11,828 --> 00:37:13,988
Speaker 1: got to happen. You're right now, we're gonna have Travis Kelsey.

800
00:37:13,988 --> 00:37:15,748
Speaker 1: You're gonna show up, You're right, ye, and we're gonna

801
00:37:15,788 --> 00:37:18,108
Speaker 1: talk to him about this organic stuff. But they've got

802
00:37:18,148 --> 00:37:20,308
Speaker 1: some weapons. This is gonna be a fun team to

803
00:37:20,348 --> 00:37:23,468
Speaker 1: watch because you know, they've dominated this division now for

804
00:37:23,508 --> 00:37:25,748
Speaker 1: a long time. Six years they've won it, but the

805
00:37:25,788 --> 00:37:28,108
Speaker 1: other teams have closed the gap. And it's a it's

806
00:37:28,108 --> 00:37:29,628
Speaker 1: a heck of a time to have a young defense

807
00:37:29,668 --> 00:37:31,788
Speaker 1: with all these great quarterbacks in the division, right, But

808
00:37:31,828 --> 00:37:34,228
Speaker 1: they're going to grow up fast. They fix the offensive

809
00:37:34,268 --> 00:37:36,468
Speaker 1: line last year and they're gonna fix their defense this

810
00:37:36,548 --> 00:37:38,948
Speaker 1: year and of course, Patrick Mahomes, the trigger man, is

811
00:37:38,948 --> 00:37:41,588
Speaker 1: still here and he's going to spread the ball around organically,

812
00:37:41,668 --> 00:37:43,708
Speaker 1: and he'll do it very well because you know Addie

813
00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:46,348
Speaker 1: and Juju Smith and he's a veteran, and Marcus veld

814
00:37:46,428 --> 00:37:49,068
Speaker 1: Scatlan he's a veteran. They'll be fine. And then of

815
00:37:49,108 --> 00:37:51,468
Speaker 1: course Travis Kelsey's not going anywhere now. Still, then'm a

816
00:37:51,508 --> 00:37:54,188
Speaker 1: good football team, yea. Do you think Kansas City is

817
00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:56,908
Speaker 1: aware of the target on their backs this season and

818
00:37:56,948 --> 00:38:00,468
Speaker 1: how it's changing in their division? Have they talked about that? Yeah, Jason,

819
00:38:00,628 --> 00:38:03,028
Speaker 1: welcoming you too to this show man. It's great to

820
00:38:03,068 --> 00:38:05,188
Speaker 1: have you out there. And we're we're gonna talk to

821
00:38:05,268 --> 00:38:07,788
Speaker 1: Andy Reid about all that too, because they've been the

822
00:38:07,788 --> 00:38:10,268
Speaker 1: cream of the crop right in this division. We know that,

823
00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:12,868
Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, the other teams have closed

824
00:38:12,908 --> 00:38:15,668
Speaker 1: the gap big time. And not to mention Russell Wilson

825
00:38:15,668 --> 00:38:17,588
Speaker 1: over there in Denver, right, So, and it's hard to

826
00:38:17,628 --> 00:38:19,788
Speaker 1: stay on top, you know, you lose players. I mean

827
00:38:19,828 --> 00:38:21,828
Speaker 1: they lost one of their best players in Tyreek Hill,

828
00:38:21,868 --> 00:38:24,028
Speaker 1: of course, and it's hard to keep a team together

829
00:38:24,148 --> 00:38:26,628
Speaker 1: for a lot of different reasons. But when you have

830
00:38:26,628 --> 00:38:28,628
Speaker 1: a front office and a head coach that are on

831
00:38:28,668 --> 00:38:31,748
Speaker 1: the same page in terms of personnel, then you can

832
00:38:31,788 --> 00:38:35,668
Speaker 1: replenish what you need. It's almost an entirely new secondary, right.

833
00:38:35,868 --> 00:38:38,868
Speaker 1: They got young kids all over the place, so they

834
00:38:39,548 --> 00:38:42,148
Speaker 1: know they have a target on their back. Yes, Jason,

835
00:38:42,268 --> 00:38:43,908
Speaker 1: but I think when you have a veteran coach and

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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback, you can handle that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: The couple of things I gathered yes or as Jude

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Speaker 1: my recon work, and then I had to Phil much

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Speaker 1: in last night over several meals, was a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: One what stands out to the City Chiefs is Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 1: the addition to him to the division, and then the

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Speaker 1: pass rushers that have been added to this division that

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Speaker 1: jumped out at them immediately. And when I talked to

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Speaker 1: Micole harmon this offseason, he was like, man, we were

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Speaker 1: sitting down day it was different news. He was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: who joined the division? Now? Is these guys text each

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Speaker 1: other on this team. They know what's gone on within

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Speaker 1: the division. And Mooch made a great point about turning

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Speaker 1: things over to a new group of guys, and that

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Speaker 1: was a big part Kyle about the direction of this team.

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Speaker 1: You have to find new leadership. You can't keep the

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Speaker 1: same guys for Tyron Matthew also leaves new leadership on

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Speaker 1: that defensive side of the ball. There's changes happening here

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Palmer and Mary Chi, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for all that delightful Chiefs intel, but also just

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Speaker 1: how many everything you've eaten in the last way four hours?

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks, coach. Let's talk about the pressure that

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Speaker 1: those guys just referenced in the target on the back

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs and whether or not we believe that

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs having that kind of pressure, if at all,

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Speaker 1: will impact them this season. Juju Smith Shuster is a

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Speaker 1: guy who's had one hundred and eleven catches in a

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Speaker 1: season in this league. He did it at about twenty

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Speaker 1: three years old. He can play. When the Tyreek news

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Speaker 1: exploded and everyone freaked out and lost their minds, I

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Speaker 1: still feel the way I did then is that Mahomes

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Speaker 1: is the story here. Tyreek is an excellent weapon and

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Speaker 1: he's great, But I don't think Tyreek made Patrick Holmes

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I think that it is similar to the

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Speaker 1: Rogers thing. I don't think DeVante made Rogers. Rogers sometimes

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Speaker 1: the guy is just the guy, and I think the

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Speaker 1: Tyree story, maybe he blows up in Miami, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna be talking about his name a

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Speaker 1: lot once the season starts, as relating to Kansas sid anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's pressure. It's the standard. That's just

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Speaker 1: that's the pressure exactly. Let's go right, man,