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Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This man?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 8: How y'all doing?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 6: Ben?
Speaker 2: Getting off your chest? Ben uh man?
Speaker 7: I just want to first of all, good morning Jess,
Speaker 7: Good morning, charlat Man.
Speaker 2: Good morning, he pe all right, uh firy thing.
Speaker 9: I just want to get this.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say. I can't say this to my girl,
Speaker 7: so I'm gonna just say it to y'all.
Speaker 8: I hate my girl.
Speaker 7: Dogs.
Speaker 10: Okay.
Speaker 2: What kind of dogs are they?
Speaker 11: That she got?
Speaker 7: Some kind of little poodle dog and American pit?
Speaker 9: Okay, I am a dog guy.
Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 9: I love dogs.
Speaker 7: I just didn't grow up with dogs in my house. Okay,
Speaker 7: but he's dog about to be crazy.
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Speaker 7: Okay to all the dog people out there, I don't
Speaker 7: know how y'all dealing with dogs running all around y'all
Speaker 7: house and dog here everywhere, but just about to make
Speaker 7: me say, hey, I can't do it.
Speaker 8: No more.
Speaker 2: Cleaning up, bro, I don't.
Speaker 7: I just refused, like, I don't even.
Speaker 6: Walk these dogs.
Speaker 2: You'll got kids.
Speaker 7: I don't do nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lord, damn, he's about to walk away, because what
Speaker 2: are they doing to you?
Speaker 11: Man?
Speaker 7: Listen, the dogs ain't doing nothing. They just they just
Speaker 7: stupid dogs. And I hate dogs everywhere.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't like going to work with dog here all
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Speaker 7: even be in my car. And I got dog here
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Speaker 7: Car, and my all lady with every day because I'm
Speaker 7: thinking of these dogs.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, he got a nice size house.
Speaker 7: Ain't no space.
Speaker 12: You need to getting ready to eat.
Speaker 2: Damn to make one of them come up missing? You
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Speaker 7: Listen, this is what made me call this morning. I
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Speaker 9: Every morning those all the way to work, just like
Speaker 9: I'm doing now. But I had a dream about poisoning
Speaker 9: them dolls last night. I said, boy, I might need
Speaker 9: to talk. I might need to call charl Many talk
Speaker 9: to them. But this is something going on with the missal.
Speaker 1: Having dreams about Did you and your wife have a
Speaker 1: conversation and tell her how you feel?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had to do a bigger argument. I ain't
Speaker 7: trying to go ahead no more.
Speaker 13: So why don't you buy one of them kid gate?
Speaker 13: You know the little kitty gates. But but I want
Speaker 13: the little kitty gates and put the dogs and the
Speaker 13: kiddy gates.
Speaker 7: That what, Charlotte?
Speaker 8: I don't want dogs? Yeah, look.
Speaker 4: All right, man, so let me let me walk out.
Speaker 2: So let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Dog, when you heard that there was when you heard
Speaker 1: the lie that they was eating catching dogs in Ohio?
Speaker 2: Did you did you? Did you smile a little bit?
Speaker 4: Did you think about taking a little trip a little bit?
Speaker 2: You have a good one, man, I have a good one.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I have a good one.
Speaker 2: Man, Get it off your chest. Eight hundred five five
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Speaker 10: I didn't grove with dogs, but I have those now,
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Speaker 14: I had a couple of rock walls when I was young.
Speaker 14: I had a bad experience with somebody poisoned my dogs.
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Speaker 1: poison them. I can't prove it that they would poison them,
Speaker 1: but I feel like they would poison them. Uh No,
Speaker 1: which one died? One of them died because they got poisoned.
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Speaker 13: Jesus Christ. Yeah, I had shepherds all my life. My
Speaker 13: dad didn't believe in having a dog as a petty.
Speaker 13: If you had a dog, the dog need to have
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Speaker 2: Morning.
Speaker 13: Everybody is e J N V jess hilarious, Charlamagne the
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Speaker 13: And of course we got our niece Nola Hill, and
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Speaker 11: We we did our album release party last night though,
Speaker 11: so uh, you know again, excuse my drinking for.
Speaker 2: You don't drinking early in the morning. You see that
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Speaker 7: The way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have one other way. Absolutely, Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: drinking with a pregnant man? Is there?
Speaker 4: Tell us about yourself, teddy, man, that's so loaded.
Speaker 11: I'm from Georgia, from from about thirty minutes east of
Speaker 11: Atlanta and Conyers, Georgia, Rockdale County, and you know, like
Speaker 11: singing songs and I'm a good, good, good boy.
Speaker 4: It was a very soulful, soulful voice. Did you grow
Speaker 4: up in the church.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so my granddad was a Pentecostal pastor. I didn't
Speaker 11: grow up singing in the church a lot, but I
Speaker 11: you know, I definitely grew up with fire and brimstone
Speaker 11: for sure.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: With the fear of God. Yeah you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: you're afraid to sind? Oh no, no, not not these days.
Speaker 2: I mean, but I'm just talking about like back in
Speaker 2: the day was like a very yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, like girls don't get haircuts, you know,
Speaker 11: girls wear skirts, men wear jeans, like that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: It was really real kind of tight, and I was,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm very fortunate. I guess.
Speaker 11: I feel like I still subscribe to so many of
Speaker 11: the principles of you know, even the police art there.
Speaker 2: I do love that my my granddad was.
Speaker 11: As I was growing up with my granddad, he was
Speaker 11: he was like, we wouldn't even go to restaurants that
Speaker 11: would have bar in the restaurant, you know, And not
Speaker 11: that he ever had a problem drinking, but it.
Speaker 2: Was just he stood on his belief so much.
Speaker 11: The thing that I was always with him was that
Speaker 11: I didn't subscribe to the idea that like telling people
Speaker 11: that they're wrong and this is the only way to
Speaker 11: believe something. I remember he looked at other churches and
Speaker 11: be like, think that the only way he believed it
Speaker 11: was right. I remember I remember the first time I
Speaker 11: sang at his church, I might have been seventeen or
Speaker 11: sixteen or something, and I remember.
Speaker 17: Him saying, like, you know, I want you to saying
Speaker 17: at the church, Bud, but man, all these kids are
Speaker 17: like break dancing and carry it on for the Lord.
Speaker 17: And I was like, yo, pop, like nobody's broke dance
Speaker 17: since like my mom was the child and if they
Speaker 17: want to break dance for the Lord.
Speaker 2: Fop, like, let him break dance for the Lord?
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: He was. He was very you know, stern, like just
Speaker 2: by the book.
Speaker 11: If it wasn't in the Bible, then it was a sin,
Speaker 11: you know what I mean. Yeah, hell yeah. My mom
Speaker 11: was worse than I was. I remember, I remember getting
Speaker 11: in trouble for all sorts of being like, I'm not
Speaker 11: doing any of that. She was thought I was doing
Speaker 11: all sorts of message. I mean, but she was a
Speaker 11: passers kid.
Speaker 13: My mother was the But listen, I wanted to you know,
Speaker 13: when you about rebellious, you started to playing football, all right, So, yes, sir,
Speaker 13: it was her family was a big football family.
Speaker 2: So what got you from football to singing my different Jens?
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, an offensive offensive guard as well. Yeah,
Speaker 11: and but I mean, I just five foot seven. Wasn't
Speaker 11: really happening, you know, just in high.
Speaker 2: School, middle school at the time.
Speaker 11: Yeah, but I've been five foot seven since I was
Speaker 11: in eighth grade, and so I thought they thought I
Speaker 11: was gonna be big, you know, and then it just
Speaker 11: it didn't happen. I started shooting up six foot two
Speaker 11: and three and whooped my ass off.
Speaker 2: The line we got you into arts.
Speaker 11: Like my different Jesse, who still plays with me. I've
Speaker 11: known him since I was little kid. Uh, his dad
Speaker 11: was always in bands and stuff, so we started trying
Speaker 11: to experiment and play music and stuff. And his older
Speaker 11: sister was a musical theater and got us in the
Speaker 11: musical theater. And I just kind of fell in love
Speaker 11: with singing, and I was so I was hooked. I
Speaker 11: was hooked that singing has changed my life. I wasn't
Speaker 11: good always, but I fell in love with it, you know.
Speaker 11: And I remember telling my mom that I was I
Speaker 11: was gonna not do football anymore and I was gonna sing.
Speaker 2: And she was so so hurt. I brought out all
Speaker 2: my memorabilia, like I can't believe you do this to us.
Speaker 2: We were playing football, you know.
Speaker 11: And I remember my first little we did this show
Speaker 11: called Damn Yankees. I did like two lines in it,
Speaker 11: I think, and uh, after I got done, I come
Speaker 11: off stage and she was like, I'm so sorry, baby,
Speaker 11: this is where you belong.
Speaker 2: Really you're a star, you know.
Speaker 16: After I did like two lines, you know, but it
Speaker 16: was what do you mean by you weren't always good
Speaker 16: at it?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 16: How do you you sound.
Speaker 2: So we were so bad at it, you know, he
Speaker 2: was in a group.
Speaker 11: Well, no, just me and my buddy Jesse. He still
Speaker 11: plays guitar rights and he plays guitar in my band still.
Speaker 11: And we as we were learning and trying to build
Speaker 11: bands together and do it as kids. You know, we
Speaker 11: just were really bad. You know, we sucked, like we're
Speaker 11: just not good, like you can still fine actually on YouTube.
Speaker 11: I was a senior in high school. My first band,
Speaker 11: Heroic Bear, is still on YouTube, our first little EP.
Speaker 11: And I was in like a metalcore band at the time,
Speaker 11: And so you can still hear me like scream away
Speaker 11: and like singing, and.
Speaker 2: If you want to, you can go to routine. If
Speaker 2: you hear it, dude, you're gonna be like, Okay, yeah
Speaker 2: you got good.
Speaker 15: Did you get lessons or did you practice or how
Speaker 15: did you just so good?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 11: I think I was so lucky. I mean, I was
Speaker 11: in theater, you know, and I had a lot of
Speaker 11: good friends and they were singing. But I think I
Speaker 11: think the biggest thing was growing up in the like
Speaker 11: when the YouTube era was first kind of starting, you know,
Speaker 11: and if I had questions or if I wanted to
Speaker 11: know how to sing There was always a live version
Speaker 11: of singer singing, you know, so like I could I
Speaker 11: could watch like live videos.
Speaker 2: Of how how is how are they moving they throw?
Speaker 2: How they moving their jaws? How are they yeah?
Speaker 11: Sect it, you know, I could. I could just sit
Speaker 11: there and watch YouTube videos and see people singing live,
Speaker 11: you know, like singing Craig David singing like and credit recovery.
Speaker 11: I would pull up like YouTube proxy and just have
Speaker 11: it behind the video and just like listen to Craig
Speaker 11: David just I'm walking away j And I could listen
Speaker 11: to by videos and watch their them play, you know
Speaker 11: and singing.
Speaker 14: It was like do you think you like saw somebody
Speaker 14: like Craig David and like mimic him, and that's how
Speaker 14: you found your voice.
Speaker 11: So totally yeah, some of the best, man, some of
Speaker 11: the best that ever did it. Marvin Gay watching I
Speaker 11: was just reading man listening to Al Green, you know,
Speaker 11: I mean, I just fell in love with the instrument
Speaker 11: and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, I want to know how to access that.
Speaker 13: And then you started doing these covers, right, and you
Speaker 13: started covering songs and then you did one cover that
Speaker 13: started shooting up crazy.
Speaker 11: So talk about that a little bit. Oh, I think
Speaker 11: Shania Twain. I'm still the one was al like, that
Speaker 11: was the one that really kind of went crazy for us.
Speaker 11: You know, I love my mama, and my mama loved
Speaker 11: Shanna Twain when I was coming up, I loved Shania
Speaker 11: Twain too. That was that was a real life changing
Speaker 11: one for us. Our first one we started out with
Speaker 11: was because June twenty fifth of twenty nineteen was the
Speaker 11: first time I never even expected doing covers, you know, online,
Speaker 11: and we had found like the stems of Rock with
Speaker 11: You online and Michael Jackson, yeah, and so it was
Speaker 11: it was ten years right after he passed. It was
Speaker 11: just ten year anniversary, and so I said, well, we
Speaker 11: should just do Rock with You by Michael Jackson used
Speaker 11: to pay homage to him and for the you know.
Speaker 11: And then we uploaded it and it started doing well,
Speaker 11: and was like, man, we should just keep this this cover.
Speaker 2: Train kind of going.
Speaker 11: So we kept on for the next few months, and
Speaker 11: I think the beautiful thing about starting with Rock with
Speaker 11: You it started getting you know, this said. The first
Speaker 11: day we woke up, we had like ten thousand views,
Speaker 11: and it was so life changing for us. We like
Speaker 11: the boys, we're getting hammered this is sick. And it
Speaker 11: was such a weird thing because once it hit like
Speaker 11: this this critical mass of like maybe five hundred thousand views,
Speaker 11: I think people were looking at it and seeing the
Speaker 11: way I look and then seeing the rock with You,
Speaker 11: you know, and saying rock with You by Michael Jackson
Speaker 11: and me, and and I'm looking like an absolute redneck
Speaker 11: and saying like, either this is hilarious or this is
Speaker 11: actually really good. And I think for our benefit it
Speaker 11: was it was kind of both, you know, because just
Speaker 11: the fact that I was singing that song but doing
Speaker 11: it well was kind of funny and surprisingly good.
Speaker 4: Why have you tried everything with therapy?
Speaker 2: Well, I've had tried therapy.
Speaker 11: Now there's a you know, even as we're getting ready
Speaker 11: of our kid, me and my girls have been doing
Speaker 11: even a couple of therapy, which has been so wonderful
Speaker 11: and making sure we're coming in and having this child
Speaker 11: and the most healed, safest environment possible. But I think
Speaker 11: name of the album that was kind of to have
Speaker 11: that conversation and with myself to get myself to go.
Speaker 11: I think there's just like been in generations past, and
Speaker 11: even still there's this like connotation on therapy that we
Speaker 11: were like, we're not allowed to go to that, or
Speaker 11: we're not allowed to share our feelings or emotions. Yeah,
Speaker 11: you know, and I just it's been life changing for me.
Speaker 11: And I did have even this in my brain that
Speaker 11: I was like, I'm not crazy. I don't need that,
Speaker 11: you know. I had this for so long that I
Speaker 11: was like, I know myself. I don't need nobody to
Speaker 11: tell me what's wrong.
Speaker 6: With me, you know.
Speaker 11: And I feel like once I got it to it,
Speaker 11: it was so much different than I thought it would
Speaker 11: be too. And I feel like there was something beautiful
Speaker 11: about having that first album and not trying it and
Speaker 11: being in a place of turmoil on heartbreak with somebody
Speaker 11: that was made me feel like my feelings were invalid
Speaker 11: or not allowed to have and having this part two
Speaker 11: coming out and being this thing of I've tried therapy,
Speaker 11: I'm back in love, I'm having a child. I got
Speaker 11: some level of success in this, and you know, on
Speaker 11: the back of heartbreak, it does get better on the
Speaker 11: other side.
Speaker 15: You know, Teddy Swims is here, Charlamagne.
Speaker 4: Can we talk about some of the music on this
Speaker 4: new album?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 14: I Love Not Your Man is a very vulnerable record
Speaker 14: thank you. Have you ever really felt like you gave
Speaker 14: everything to a woman and it wasn't enough?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Hell yeah, man, I think it was important to start
Speaker 11: this one out like that because I was. I'd have
Speaker 11: wrote this forever I was. I was in a place
Speaker 11: with somebody where my you know, it's hard. I don't
Speaker 11: want to talk about her in a way that because
Speaker 11: I now, as I've grown and healed and moved on,
Speaker 11: it's I I thank her for for what we went through,
Speaker 11: you know, and I'm grateful for that time and space
Speaker 11: that we had together. I was at the place here
Speaker 11: where I felt like I was given everything and my
Speaker 11: feelings in my I was was not validated, or it
Speaker 11: was not enough, or I was crazy to feeling this way,
Speaker 11: or I was abusive situation.
Speaker 2: I don't don't I don't want to. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say it. While both man. Physically she was, she
Speaker 2: was just not good. She was not a good person,
Speaker 2: and I've won the best for her.
Speaker 11: But yeah, it was a very tough thing to try
Speaker 11: to try to heal somebody, try to make space for
Speaker 11: someone to heal, try to give somebody everything. You would
Speaker 11: think you would think if you.
Speaker 2: Had a if you had a passion.
Speaker 11: I'll just make it like this, you had a passion
Speaker 11: in your life, and you had somebody in your life
Speaker 11: that says you could quit your job and just focus
Speaker 11: on your passion.
Speaker 2: I'll take care of the rest.
Speaker 11: You got it, and you don't do anything with your life,
Speaker 11: but you just eat Zaggs all day and lay around
Speaker 11: and blame somebody for your shortcomings when you have the
Speaker 11: opportunity to follow your dream and somebody that would support
Speaker 11: you with your dreams, and you'd be like so surprised
Speaker 11: to see if somebody had the opportunity to follow their
Speaker 11: dreams and they had everything taken care of. How many
Speaker 11: people would be like, if everything's taken care of, I'm
Speaker 11: going to do it anymore.
Speaker 2: And you can't.
Speaker 11: You can't put ambition and drive into somebody.
Speaker 2: You can't heal.
Speaker 11: Nobody, you can't save nobody. And I've started to go
Speaker 11: on that tangent.
Speaker 1: But from that situation, do you feel like you no
Speaker 1: longer inable because it's like, though you want to.
Speaker 18: Do something out of love to better somebody, sometimes it's
Speaker 18: to their own detriment.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think I think, yeah, I think it's it
Speaker 11: was an enabling at the end of the day. You know,
Speaker 11: I was doing something to help someone become but I
Speaker 11: think at the end of the day, I was enabling
Speaker 11: somebody to do nothing, and if that was inside of them,
Speaker 11: I was enabling that.
Speaker 2: And I think it's a common pattern, you know.
Speaker 11: But yes, I'm trying to heal and learn to see
Speaker 11: somebody for who they are and not who I want
Speaker 11: them to be or think they should be.
Speaker 2: I can tell you got a big heart, but people
Speaker 2: will take advantage of hell.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm also grateful to be I don't want
Speaker 11: to say I'm grateful be taking manage that.
Speaker 2: I'm grateful to be available.
Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna use you, but don't let people miss use
Speaker 4: a man.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I have a last question for you.
Speaker 18: I was reading this interview you talked about because your
Speaker 18: girlfriend's black, and you talked about like when you guys
Speaker 18: are in the South, you get like looks from people
Speaker 18: and like it bothers you because love should be loved.
Speaker 18: But you're about to bring a baby into the world.
Speaker 18: You're so positive, she seems so amazing, but the world
Speaker 18: is not always like that. Like, how do you defeat
Speaker 18: that because you're really a really nice person, Like it
Speaker 18: breaks my heart.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I hate how much she's go through.
Speaker 11: So her dad's black and her mom's white. So she
Speaker 11: tells me about stuff all the time, about like, you know,
Speaker 11: how she felt not wide enough or not blacking up,
Speaker 11: and how much her world in her life has been
Speaker 11: such a I guess, like a juxtaposition in both sides,
Speaker 11: you know, never feeling like she wasn't quite accepted by
Speaker 11: either side, you know.
Speaker 2: And so there is not a story.
Speaker 11: I won't I won't tell you her story because she's
Speaker 11: better saying it than I. Well, I'll never tell you
Speaker 11: her story. But I see how like how beautiful she is,
Speaker 11: and how I guess how like elegant she navigates being
Speaker 11: who she is. She's the most incredible human being I've
Speaker 11: ever met, man to talk to.
Speaker 14: I love that Johnson and White, the Song of Money Loan. Yes, sir,
Speaker 14: that title is a little on the those, don't you think, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 11: I think I think that the point of it was
Speaker 11: kind of to the core of love in itself is
Speaker 11: black and white, Like it's a it's a black and
Speaker 11: white issue.
Speaker 2: Love is love and not love is not love and loving.
Speaker 11: Whether it's a person of a different color, shape, size, sexuality,
Speaker 11: same sex, whatever it is. I think that the thing
Speaker 11: was trying to say that we no matter what, we
Speaker 11: could come from different worlds. It's it's a true I
Speaker 11: guess wrote me on and Juliette story. You know kind
Speaker 11: of is the basis of it is that like you know,
Speaker 11: we we come from different places, we come from different cultures,
Speaker 11: we have different things. But when you're in love, man,
Speaker 11: love is love and and that should be enough. And
Speaker 11: that's really they ain't nothing great about that, man, That's
Speaker 11: just love.
Speaker 2: You know, love is love.
Speaker 1: You know, I love that record and it's a good
Speaker 1: stamp because you know, money Long recently went viral for
Speaker 1: saying she's not writing soulful songs for white artists.
Speaker 4: Did you see that?
Speaker 2: I did not? Oh I'm glad I got that one
Speaker 2: before she said exactly when did she do that song?
Speaker 7: Was that long?
Speaker 2: Did you do that a while ago? Yeah?
Speaker 6: We did it.
Speaker 11: It's had to be a few months ago now. But
Speaker 11: diffriend Jeff Kitty and Mickey Echo is a part of
Speaker 11: it with us too, and we we like started working
Speaker 11: on it. And I remember Jeff Kitty as has been
Speaker 11: working with Money for long years and years and he's like, man,
Speaker 11: should we see if Morney wants to do this song
Speaker 11: with us? And I was like, I mean, yeah, that's
Speaker 11: like that. We'd kind of like to do a record
Speaker 11: like this. We would kind of need that, you know.
Speaker 11: I would be so stoked that she'd be willing to
Speaker 11: because I knew what I kind of wanted to say.
Speaker 11: But also I can't say that, you know, without having
Speaker 11: money helped me say that, you know, but also without
Speaker 11: like relying too much, you know, I think I needed
Speaker 11: to We needed to say that together. And so I'm
Speaker 11: just grateful she took that opportunity to say, I see
Speaker 11: what you're trying to say. I have you say that,
Speaker 11: you know, and and said it with me, And I
Speaker 11: think I'm so grateful for her because money is just allegend.
Speaker 2: Man, what a bad bad ass man.
Speaker 13: Now, you also said you wanted to meet one of
Speaker 13: your musical idols, were Stevie Wonder?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you ever get an opportunity?
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, we haven't met in person, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 11: and I got I got a chance to do a
Speaker 11: record with him too. So uh, I think he's gonna
Speaker 11: put out on his next record, I hope. So, I
Speaker 11: hope it's gonna come out. I'm really excited. It's it's
Speaker 11: a good record. It's called Politics Player and uh yeah,
Speaker 11: which is such an honor to be on our Steve
Speaker 11: Wonder record. But yeah, he did FaceTime. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 11: It's so funny. Man, he FaceTime.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 11: And here's the thing thing. He is actually blind, y'all.
Speaker 11: This is true life.
Speaker 2: He was blind.
Speaker 11: I'm saying people say it. People, there's a conspiracy that
Speaker 11: he's not.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 11: Look, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I was on
Speaker 11: the phone with this. I was facetiming this man and
Speaker 11: he said, he turned this. He had put the camera around.
Speaker 11: He said, this is my son over here, and then
Speaker 11: he said I'm over here today. He's pulled it up
Speaker 11: here and he said, and this is my niece. And
Speaker 11: then he had he had phone facing her. And for
Speaker 11: the next ten minutes of the conversation, I'll look as.
Speaker 2: Far as you are. I looked at his niece and
Speaker 2: knock and he was holding he was holding the camera
Speaker 2: like he was holding like I not all. See I
Speaker 2: did not have to hold it.
Speaker 6: She was she was sitting there.
Speaker 2: She was sitting there text on her phone.
Speaker 11: I didn't have the hard to say, hey, I can't
Speaker 11: see you, but you know, my dumb ass man, my
Speaker 11: numb that's the reason he called me because.
Speaker 2: I was in Tokyo.
Speaker 11: I was in Tokyo and I had found I had
Speaker 11: found my favorite album, all time, best album ever, Songs
Speaker 11: in the Key Live.
Speaker 2: I found a CD of it.
Speaker 11: It was a Tokyo version of it, like the Japanese
Speaker 11: version of it, and my dumb ass taxing him a
Speaker 11: picture of it.
Speaker 2: My goodness, I get.
Speaker 11: Idiot like he was gonna see it right right, Like
Speaker 11: I just chech that's what I found, Bro, I found, Bro,
Speaker 11: what are you saying? His FaceTime? So I was like,
Speaker 11: my dumb ass too, was like you give a touch.
Speaker 11: He's definitely he didn't see it, Bro, I don't think.
Speaker 11: I just just to put all those things to rest.
Speaker 15: And shut down.
Speaker 16: It's crazy.
Speaker 18: All these years black people have been trying to figure
Speaker 18: this out and you are the one that.
Speaker 16: Solved the problem.
Speaker 6: I just I just know.
Speaker 2: I was looking at his knees about fifteen minutes. Again.
Speaker 15: Well there you have it, Swim. You appreciate you for
Speaker 15: joining us. It's the breakfast Club.
Speaker 6: Good morning, It's topic time.
Speaker 13: Eight hundred and five eight five one five one to
Speaker 13: join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Mourning.
Speaker 13: Everybody is thej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 13: If you just joining us, we open up the phone
Speaker 13: lines eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one.
Speaker 13: We're talking about older men dating these younger women. And
Speaker 13: when I say younger women, I'm talking about teens or
Speaker 13: low late or early twenties.
Speaker 2: I show no, no, no, no.
Speaker 14: When I'm talking about younger women, I'm talking about these
Speaker 14: guys that are thirty years these people seniors.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 14: Like, I think, when you're fifty some years old and
Speaker 14: you're dating a twenty year old, that's ridiculous to me.
Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm consistent.
Speaker 13: I'm talking about teenagers eighteen, nineteen, early twenties. Somebody could
Speaker 13: be thirty two dating a sixty year old And are
Speaker 13: you cool with that? What a thirty five year old
Speaker 13: dating a sixty five.
Speaker 6: Year old man?
Speaker 2: A sixty year old man?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's even more because this man sixty
Speaker 1: plus years old old, but he said thirty thirty at least,
Speaker 1: like yeah.
Speaker 2: Growing up and that's going to say so it's not
Speaker 2: the difference we're talking about.
Speaker 4: You're looking at her a little crazy, like, damn, what
Speaker 4: you want with that old ass man? He must be rich.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's let's ask Jess. Jess, you said you
Speaker 2: dated a forty year old man.
Speaker 15: You were at age I was twenty three.
Speaker 2: Why yeah? Money? Yeah, he did.
Speaker 9: Make about the line.
Speaker 19: I was really about to say, yeah, he had money,
Speaker 19: and I always had like a little old solo or whatever,
Speaker 19: you know what I mean. And I met him at
Speaker 19: the car dealership and no, ain't buy me no car,
Speaker 19: but he helped me with the down period.
Speaker 12: That's why.
Speaker 19: He helped me with the down pay much. And I
Speaker 19: think the down pay I was getting like a little Honda.
Speaker 19: It might have been like five thousand or something. But
Speaker 19: I act like I ain't have it all, and he
Speaker 19: was like, you know, you know, and how give you?
Speaker 19: He gave me like three thousand dollars.
Speaker 10: Yeah, for like six or seven months. It really wasn't long.
Speaker 2: But I broke it off.
Speaker 19: Not even I broke it off because you you get
Speaker 19: and like relationships with older guys as a young woman,
Speaker 19: because you think, oh this is gonna help me grow up,
Speaker 19: or I'm doing something that ain't nobody else doing I'm
Speaker 19: in you know, and he's very childish.
Speaker 10: She was childish.
Speaker 19: You you automatically just think because you did an older
Speaker 19: guy that they're gonna have it all together.
Speaker 10: They're wise, you know.
Speaker 2: They they can teach you.
Speaker 13: Things, try to do those things when you're like, nah,
Speaker 13: I know what I'm doing and do this. So he
Speaker 13: try to be like, treat you like a child or no.
Speaker 19: Yeah, until he realized that he couldn't do that, and
Speaker 19: then that made him. That made me even more attractive
Speaker 19: to him, Like he liked that. It's okay, so you're
Speaker 19: not a young dummy.
Speaker 2: You smart.
Speaker 19: Now let me show you how dumb I am. It
Speaker 19: was just weird, Like I was like, oh no, I
Speaker 19: gotta no, I can't. Like he was very childish and stuff.
Speaker 19: He didn't know how to have sex, he didn't know how.
Speaker 2: To ghat the box.
Speaker 10: I was like, oh my god, you're too old and
Speaker 10: I know these things. And I started dating back in
Speaker 10: my age.
Speaker 4: Break probably gonna taste the way they used to.
Speaker 2: The ones from my area taste a whole lot different, right.
Speaker 14: I'm gonna be I just think it's corny. There's no
Speaker 14: way you should be dating a woman who was in
Speaker 14: somebody's womb when you was thirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, imagine imagine being thirty years old, Yeah, standing
Speaker 1: over a crib with your out like that.
Speaker 2: That just looks crazy. That that sounds that's yeah, how
Speaker 2: you should look at it? How you fifty?
Speaker 1: If you fifty plus years old dating a twenty year old,
Speaker 1: that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 14: I don't know why men have not grown out of that.
Speaker 14: I love discipline, I love stability, I love having a family.
Speaker 4: When you if you.
Speaker 1: Fifty plus years old, you should be kicked up. You
Speaker 1: have your feet kicked up at home. You got your
Speaker 1: wife over here, you got your kids over here. Why
Speaker 1: are you chasing these other I.
Speaker 10: Disagree with that standing over the crib, which sound like that?
Speaker 10: Now listen.
Speaker 19: The only reason why, the only way I would think
Speaker 19: about it like that is if way around the way,
Speaker 19: and you've seen this girl grow up and you waited
Speaker 19: for her to get a.
Speaker 10: Certain age like nineteen eighteen something like that to date.
Speaker 2: Her, then I get that notion of it.
Speaker 19: But to these if you're just an older man and
Speaker 19: you see a younger woman, younger looking woman, you know whatever,
Speaker 19: it's like, all right, they are attracted to young women,
Speaker 19: you know, but that's different. I'm not about to think
Speaker 19: about it as I'm standing over a damn crib with
Speaker 19: my watch this little girl grow.
Speaker 2: I will not jump, I.
Speaker 6: Won't say this.
Speaker 13: Everybody's not made for marriage, right. He was married and
Speaker 13: didn't enjoy it, so he wants to be a bachelor.
Speaker 13: And I'm not mad at that. But I look at
Speaker 13: it a little different, Charlamage. You got four daughters. I
Speaker 13: got four daughters. I don't want my twenty one, nineteen
Speaker 13: twenty two to twenty three year old daughter dating a
Speaker 13: fifty four year old man. There's there's nothing in common.
Speaker 13: The only thing I feel like you dating that young
Speaker 13: is because you want to control. That's that's what that's
Speaker 13: my mentality. But there's nothing, you know, I don't see
Speaker 13: nothing wrong with it. If he want to be a bachelor,
Speaker 13: he could be a basket. Maybe he's just not made.
Speaker 19: Somebody your age, go get you a nice forty something
Speaker 19: and exactly what you said you want to control, because
Speaker 19: that guy at that dealership gave me three thousand dollars
Speaker 19: because he just knew she greened now going to control her,
Speaker 19: and did not.
Speaker 2: He didn't know. He's dealing with Jesse Baltrom.
Speaker 1: Go find somebody that can help you regulate your cholesterol.
Speaker 1: Go find somebody that they dealing with their blood pressure. Really,
Speaker 1: go find somebody that can recognize the signs.
Speaker 2: Of I gotta go get a colic colons. But you
Speaker 2: don't know what that is those?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Who is?
Speaker 2: Who is Calvin? Who's hello?
Speaker 6: Who's this?
Speaker 8: Hey? This is key?
Speaker 20: How y'all doing?
Speaker 6: I'm good?
Speaker 5: Key?
Speaker 6: How old are you?
Speaker 4: Key?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Hold on it, says key, was seventeen dating a forty
Speaker 2: year old man.
Speaker 20: Come on, it was forty something, a little bit older
Speaker 20: than forty.
Speaker 2: And y'all got married. Break that down.
Speaker 20: Yeah, we end up getting married. We had three beautiful
Speaker 20: children together. We are no longer together.
Speaker 2: Because he dead.
Speaker 10: Oh my god, is he dead?
Speaker 20: No, he's still he's almost sixty one, still dating younger women.
Speaker 2: What state of y'all in that that was legal?
Speaker 11: Huh?
Speaker 2: What state of y'all in that that was legal?
Speaker 20: It wasn't Virginia.
Speaker 2: But you said y'all got married when they got married,
Speaker 2: probably when she get married.
Speaker 20: Until I was like twenty. Oh, dug right, So long
Speaker 20: story short, it was.
Speaker 9: It was very hard.
Speaker 20: My twenty my early twenties twenties was very hard, very displessing.
Speaker 20: He was very controlling, was always gone out doing what
Speaker 20: he wanted to do while was at home taking care
Speaker 20: of our kids.
Speaker 8: It was it was really hard.
Speaker 20: It was something that I would not recommend any young
Speaker 20: woman ever.
Speaker 2: Was he very controlling?
Speaker 7: He was.
Speaker 20: It was a domestic balance situation. I definitely finally got
Speaker 20: the courage to leave because I didn't want my children
Speaker 20: to keep on, you know, seeing that I don't didn't
Speaker 20: want them to think that that's normal. And then in
Speaker 20: fact that our oldest son, he's sixteen, now I had
Speaker 20: to put him in therapy because you know, it just
Speaker 20: it was just horrible.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, thank god that.
Speaker 20: I had to pray my way out of that situation
Speaker 20: because I was really in.
Speaker 8: Love with him.
Speaker 15: Where was your father at at this time? Was your
Speaker 15: dad around?
Speaker 8: So yeah, let me let me.
Speaker 20: Protect my parents. My parents are both retired army and
Speaker 20: they were both overseas fighting the war and Iraq. So
Speaker 20: I was in vi Jinga with my with my grandmother.
Speaker 20: I was at work when I met him, so it's
Speaker 20: not like my grandma just let me do it ever work,
Speaker 20: you know, he took that opportunity to you know. Yeah,
Speaker 20: and he used to come pick me up from hool
Speaker 20: and everything like Jesus high school, you know, signed out.
Speaker 10: So yeah, definitely old enough to sign your out.
Speaker 2: That's wow.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 19: But but thank you for sharing your story that you're
Speaker 19: still hear and that you are out of that situation.
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 20: I didn't want my kids to think.
Speaker 15: That I was normal, So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: Key.
Speaker 20: And he's a horrible father, so.
Speaker 4: That means he a horrible grandfather too.
Speaker 20: Yeah, he is people, all right.
Speaker 14: The moral of the story is, I know y'all like
Speaker 14: to be out here bragging about smashing these young girls,
Speaker 14: but that's not a flex to me. You know what
Speaker 14: I'm saying, You fifty four years old, in your fifties,
Speaker 14: you should be later with your wife and kids, or
Speaker 14: at least be with women that's close to your age.
Speaker 4: Like that's that's me, yeah, you know, and I'm consistent
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 1: I said that when Diddy was out here with young
Speaker 1: Miami and you told LEONARDA, I don't know what y'all
Speaker 1: seeing these young girls.
Speaker 4: I need somebody that can know at least all at
Speaker 4: least six members of.
Speaker 2: Wu Tang six. It's a six of them. Yoh godess
Speaker 2: I never told you this story about how years ago.
Speaker 14: I'm not gonna say his name, but there was a
Speaker 14: record rep and he was talking to me about how man.
Speaker 14: I tried to talk to one of these young girls
Speaker 14: and she was real smart, and I said to her,
Speaker 14: you a regular doogie Houses?
Speaker 1: And she was like, who is doogie houses? Just don't
Speaker 1: know exactly? You know who don't know? No, okay, exactly see.
Speaker 2: Regular doogie houses?
Speaker 10: And now tell me what's the dog house.
Speaker 4: Doogie House was a hit sitcom back in the day
Speaker 4: that Neil Patrick Harris.
Speaker 16: My grandma said, I know, Neil Patrick, you got the.
Speaker 4: Ladist coming on you. See what I'm saying.
Speaker 13: I would tell everybody outter that thinking about it, Just
Speaker 13: imagine when you have daughters. Would you want your daughters
Speaker 13: to date a fifty four year old man at the.
Speaker 2: Age of nine.
Speaker 1: Imagine being thirty button neckad standing over somebody's crib.
Speaker 2: That's what you should be thinking about when you.
Speaker 1: Were here ready to holler these twenty some year old
Speaker 1: girls when you fifty plus cut it out.
Speaker 13: If you just joined us this context, this context, Yeah,
Speaker 13: it's the breakfast club in the morning, the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: One of everybody is team was just hilarious, charlamage to God.
Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. La La Rosa is here
Speaker 2: with us, and we got some special guests in the
Speaker 2: boland this morning.
Speaker 1: The host of the new show Friday Night Vibes on
Speaker 1: TV as the new host Friday Night Vibes on TVs.
Speaker 2: Dina Parker Kevin on.
Speaker 4: I walked that up because you know, keV didn't talk
Speaker 4: about that last time he was here. And I saw
Speaker 4: Nina in Chance and Nina was like. Nina was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know why he was up there and did
Speaker 4: not mention that we're in a new home.
Speaker 2: Friday Night may be having tunelevision, so you got all
Speaker 2: these other projects he was. I watched the interview and
Speaker 2: I was so excited, like, I can't wait till he
Speaker 2: mentions Friday Night VIX because we were in the middle
Speaker 2: of filming Friday Night Vibes.
Speaker 4: Man Friday Night Friday Night Vibes, and I had just.
Speaker 2: Did Taron Hall. I was like, Keith, I mentioned you
Speaker 2: and shouted you out. They showed your picture on the back.
Speaker 2: I'm being ghastling, I said at first, So it means
Speaker 2: it's true, baby, that's just who you are.
Speaker 13: Because you know one of your best friends was up
Speaker 13: here right like just right here, and when we told
Speaker 13: him that you were coming, he was like, he didn't
Speaker 13: even tell me he was here in New York.
Speaker 2: He was like, we were playing pool and friendship.
Speaker 10: We saw Tony just in the grind.
Speaker 6: I was like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Tony didn't tell me he was doing the breakfast club.
Speaker 2: But men don't share details like that, Like if it
Speaker 2: would have been me and my homegirl, we would have
Speaker 2: been like at the hotel having breakfast before we came over.
Speaker 2: I feel like, y'all just see each other when you
Speaker 2: see Tony had a show in New York. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that I got tickets to a show, surprising. I
Speaker 2: was gonna pull up right ticket because always buy.
Speaker 1: I don't even play that. I'm not trying to hear it.
Speaker 1: Don't hear me because people you ain't even cool, Like
Speaker 1: what's up on the tickets? Kevo stays dot com. It's
Speaker 1: what I'm telling them. My parents buy tickets to my show, and.
Speaker 2: I want to support, but then they want you to
Speaker 2: give up the ticket. Yeah, that ain't support parents. Buy
Speaker 2: tickets to your parents.
Speaker 1: Refuse to get free tickets. They're like, I believe in
Speaker 1: you and what you're doing. I'll go get tickets.
Speaker 18: They won't make sure they got loan you no money
Speaker 18: ever again.
Speaker 2: No, well, yes, you keep doing good. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I need you to make it.
Speaker 4: You know they're not just testing you just to see
Speaker 4: if you're gonna say no, no, no, y'all have done enough.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 12: No, they buy them, they support for the next show.
Speaker 12: My friends, I don't mind these people.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We ain't got a relationship. You're trying to get the
Speaker 1: free tickets, Manna, Okay, it's like a hookup. When I
Speaker 1: work in Popeye's, I give my friends a hook up.
Speaker 1: Not everybody, some of the biscuits.
Speaker 2: If you see the price, that's true.
Speaker 4: How did this come together?
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? We actually chem tested together. Kevin
Speaker 2: and I knew each other only on social media, like
Speaker 2: I was a fan of his work and we had
Speaker 2: never met, so we would, you know, exchange on social media.
Speaker 2: And then you know the show used to be hosted
Speaker 2: by Tiffany Hattis and do y'all cold. They were revamping
Speaker 2: it and so they did like a big casting call
Speaker 2: so when we got called and sometimes when you get
Speaker 2: to a certain level, you're like, oh, I still got
Speaker 2: a kip test. Yeah, I was like, So we did
Speaker 2: the kym test and it was it was actually like
Speaker 2: a family reunion. It was about twenty about what befteen women,
Speaker 2: fifteen men. Yeah, and we were kim testing with our friends.
Speaker 2: So it was like a big day. We got in trouble.
Speaker 2: It took all day long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like you you spend five minutes with
Speaker 1: this person and okay, y'all done and this person and
Speaker 1: when Nina and I went, it was like this sounds cliche,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I forgot we were even auditioning.
Speaker 2: We were just chopping it up and they stopped us.
Speaker 2: We were like, okay, cool. I was like this, we
Speaker 2: got this. Like there's sometimes I feel like you get
Speaker 2: that little voice you know when you're when you're in
Speaker 2: this industry, you just know when something that is magic.
Speaker 2: And we were sitting next to each other and it
Speaker 2: was so easy with him. And I've had a lot
Speaker 2: of co hosts over the years, and keV is by
Speaker 2: far like the easiest person I've ever worked with.
Speaker 4: Oh that's an ultimate compliment.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's not just to him as to
Speaker 2: his wife Melissa, right, because his wife is he knows
Speaker 2: how to there is a there's a dance, as you
Speaker 2: guys know. And then when you have like a co
Speaker 2: host who knows how to communicate in a healthy way
Speaker 2: with a woman, it's just like even like he'll be
Speaker 2: like do you need to sit? I'm like what because
Speaker 2: I'm used to people being like get off the way,
Speaker 2: and it's just he's very kind. So it just makes
Speaker 2: it so easy to work with. Nina.
Speaker 14: Go ahead, I tell you that all the time. When
Speaker 14: somebody says you're easy to work with, that's beautiful. When
Speaker 14: somebody says you're a pleasure to work with, you always work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's so long. The work is hard.
Speaker 1: So talent is evenly distributed, you know in La New York,
Speaker 1: but good people to work with is not so much.
Speaker 1: And then it's already stressedful you got early call times
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. If you're also a jerk on
Speaker 1: top of that, it's like, bro, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to do it.
Speaker 2: It's life be lifing, as you know, so it's like
Speaker 2: it's hard to get on and have to like turn
Speaker 2: all of that off. You know in filming. So when
Speaker 2: you have somebody that's like keV is really like my
Speaker 2: real life brother, you know, I really love him. I
Speaker 2: love his wife like, we have dinners like and so
Speaker 2: it's just it doesn't it truly doesn't feel like work.
Speaker 2: So we just be cutting up, and you know, this
Speaker 2: show really allowed me to be funny and like really
Speaker 2: tap into cause I feel like I've done so much
Speaker 2: formal journalism. This was like a different This was more vulnerable,
Speaker 2: and keV is more of my coach sometimes where he's
Speaker 2: like just say it, like, you know, cause I'm so
Speaker 2: trained that sometimes it's a little bit more stiff, so
Speaker 2: he's like, just say it. They ain't gonna care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we need to helped me too, because I
Speaker 1: had never done official TV, never worked off a prompt before.
Speaker 1: So the first day I was like, dang man, like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure and you can't really mess up.
Speaker 1: It's time for you to do your job right. And
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, it's all good. There's how you
Speaker 1: doing us run through it once and Nina, man, let
Speaker 1: me tell you what she big sis for real, because
Speaker 1: when I don't want to do stuff, she'd.
Speaker 2: Be like, ah, we ain't doing that, y'all. We are
Speaker 2: doing this.
Speaker 1: Like you can tell she's been in the game for
Speaker 1: a long time, never rude or anything like that, but
Speaker 1: she she knows how to assert herself and people respect
Speaker 1: her for that.
Speaker 2: And I'm more of like, I never done this, so
Speaker 2: whatever y'all say is cool. But also when you've done
Speaker 2: it a long time, you know when people are patty time,
Speaker 2: like you're like, we don't need we got this. We
Speaker 2: can just roll through this, like y'all ain't got a
Speaker 2: babys Like, we're gonna come in, we gonna knock this out,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna go home. Everybody gonna get home on time, y'all,
Speaker 2: hill over time stop.
Speaker 1: Is hard for you, keV being on a production that
Speaker 1: you don't control, no low key, Actually it's free because someone,
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's a certain amount of stress when
Speaker 1: you control it, Like the talent is just one aspect.
Speaker 1: Then you got to worry about the budget and the controlling,
Speaker 1: the editing, the delivery day. That vibes brother, When it's
Speaker 1: over all right, y'all, and it's it is, it is
Speaker 1: a welcome reprieve from having a duel. I don't want
Speaker 1: to have to worry about post edit deliveries, time code
Speaker 1: you know, s and p leave it at the door coffee? Yes,
Speaker 1: what time is lunch?
Speaker 2: Okay? Perfect, see you all tomorrow. Just come on time.
Speaker 8: Do my job.
Speaker 2: Chopping up with Nina, I knew we was cool. Need
Speaker 2: to let me her she was getting braided down, like
Speaker 2: y'all real friends, man, you let me see the the breakdown.
Speaker 1: No, That's why I think that camaraderie and chemistry from
Speaker 1: the audition through the show, it just carries on throughout.
Speaker 1: And then that's why the show feels so natural. Our
Speaker 1: guests come on, they feel really natural with us, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, and it doubled the ratings. So we did the
Speaker 2: first season, we only had like twelve episodes, so it
Speaker 2: was just the first Friday of every month, which right now,
Speaker 2: you know, TV is very difficult. They actually doubled our
Speaker 2: episode order because they were saying that our interviews with
Speaker 2: each other and with our guests were spiking over the movies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I mean listening to get a double order during
Speaker 2: this time, we feel very blessed.
Speaker 13: Were still picking it with Nina, Parker and keV on
Speaker 13: stage the new show Friday Night vibes is on TVs Lauren.
Speaker 18: I was going to ask you, Nina, because for us
Speaker 18: in the journalism where you talk about brooking and hard journalism,
Speaker 18: I know you come from TMZ. Your career and how
Speaker 18: you've been able to diversify your resume. We all watch
Speaker 18: it like how because it is hard when you're such
Speaker 18: a journalist and do things where they allow you to
Speaker 18: show your personality. What was your first lesson in like
Speaker 18: I even want to try to diversify.
Speaker 2: Well, my first lesson was I got fired and you know,
Speaker 2: as you know, it's like you got fired from well,
Speaker 2: I got fired my first week from TMZ. I didn't
Speaker 2: know it.
Speaker 6: So my first.
Speaker 16: I'm gonna let her talk her story.
Speaker 2: So the first time I got fired was my first
Speaker 2: week in TMZ. I just moved to la and I
Speaker 2: was not even a PA yet. I was a runner.
Speaker 2: I didn't know anybody in l A. I literally got
Speaker 2: the job by emailing contacts they used to have like
Speaker 2: a contact TMZ, and I just emailed and was like,
Speaker 2: I got a degree, can I like you know? And
Speaker 2: they were like, you've been out the game for a
Speaker 2: little bit, because I had stopped working in journalism and
Speaker 2: so they were like, we'll make you a runner. You
Speaker 2: can get the lunches. But this was before GPS, so
Speaker 2: I had like a Thomas Guide.
Speaker 15: Oh wow, yeah, that's age of myself.
Speaker 2: But I was I got lost. La is very difficult
Speaker 2: to navigate. You like, why is it too sa? So
Speaker 2: I got lost, So Paris Hilton got arrested, and I
Speaker 2: had to go get the tape from the paparazzi of
Speaker 2: her coming out of CNN for her first interview with
Speaker 2: Larry King.
Speaker 16: Oh my heart just dropped for you. Yeah, got lost
Speaker 16: with that tape.
Speaker 2: And I got lost, and if you know, CNN was
Speaker 2: on sunset and I took Highland to get back to
Speaker 2: the valley, and Harvey was like, why would you take
Speaker 2: Hiland and not Kawanga? What's wrong with you? Your fire
Speaker 2: in front of everybody? Choice, do you understand how that's
Speaker 2: very different? And you know, like this is before you
Speaker 2: could transfer digitally. You had to have the tape, so
Speaker 2: I cost them like fifteen twenty minutes and they wanted
Speaker 2: it up first. So he fired me in front of
Speaker 2: the whole newsroom and I went to the bathroom. I
Speaker 2: had only been in La like three months. I went
Speaker 2: to the bathroom and I was crying, like Ego kicked in.
Speaker 2: It was like at this place, go somewhere else. You
Speaker 2: don't need this place. And there was this really quiet
Speaker 2: voice with that was like, just go apologize. And I
Speaker 2: went to my managing editor and Harvey was in his office.
Speaker 2: I went to the managing editor and I had been
Speaker 2: staying late every day and I would just ask her
Speaker 2: she needed anything, so if she needed her trash taken out, whatever,
Speaker 2: I would just stay late for hours, just helping her
Speaker 2: and not getting paid. And I said, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry if I can work with you, and
Speaker 2: if you she was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: And I said, Harvey just fired me. And she goes
Speaker 2: crossing down everywhere, and she went in his office and
Speaker 2: yelled at him, and he heard him say will you
Speaker 2: take her? And she came back out and offered me
Speaker 2: a year contract and was like, do you want to
Speaker 2: be my writing pa?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 2: And then that was in June of two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: The show started in September of two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: and by then he had heard me just talking. I
Speaker 2: would do my stories and talk out loud, and he
Speaker 2: thought I was funny, and he was like, I want
Speaker 2: you to pitch for the show, and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: I just want to write. He was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: asking you. You're gonna get on the show. And that's
Speaker 2: really how it started. That was the first time I
Speaker 2: got fired, and I was just like, I'm gonna just
Speaker 2: go for it. And I just was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to allow like one person to have the keys
Speaker 2: to like drive my car. Like I got to have
Speaker 2: these options open, and I have to like eat my
Speaker 2: ego a little bit. And I think our ego gets
Speaker 2: us in a lot of trouble in this industry. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of misunderst standings that happened that you you
Speaker 2: take it the wrong way. And I just learned to
Speaker 2: like drop that and it's helped me. Well what got
Speaker 2: you fired?
Speaker 6: For real?
Speaker 2: I didn't. I was fired from CBS. Okay, they didn't
Speaker 2: renew my contract, so the well you're just kind of fired,
Speaker 2: you know, You're like it's like we don't we're not
Speaker 2: having you back. I had like a two year contract
Speaker 2: and I had it was the most money I had
Speaker 2: ever made. Because now I'm an official course spind and
Speaker 2: I'm doing red carpets and I made all this money
Speaker 2: and I blew it. I was buying bags. I remember
Speaker 2: I went on my first check and bought a Gucci
Speaker 2: and Louis vuita bag, both just both. Because I have
Speaker 2: been I was making four fifty a week at TMZ
Speaker 2: who before taxes, so I wasn't making any money. So
Speaker 2: when I was getting the CBS money, I lost my
Speaker 2: damn mind. And I had no I had bad credit,
Speaker 2: I had no financial literacy all you had to be.
Speaker 2: And so when I lost the job, I was broke
Speaker 2: because I had I was, you know, even though I
Speaker 2: had money, I was spending every check. I was you know,
Speaker 2: I was at at the brunches, spending money like a
Speaker 2: drug dealer. I was just like, come on, let's let's
Speaker 2: get the bottles, you know, and just ridiculous. And what
Speaker 2: I realized was, I thought to myself, I had to
Speaker 2: downsize everything. I got a car accident, I lost my car,
Speaker 2: so I had to get a used car with the
Speaker 2: red light always on. And I had to get into
Speaker 2: a smaller apartment that was like a little bit more,
Speaker 2: you know, in a bad neighborhood. And I told myself,
Speaker 2: I was like, when I get my next thing, because
Speaker 2: I knew it was gonna come. I educated myself on
Speaker 2: how to get good credit. I fixed my credit, I
Speaker 2: figured out what I needed to save. I was like,
Speaker 2: I need multiple income. I was talking to Kevin Fraser
Speaker 2: who was at CBS, and he was kind of telling me, like,
Speaker 2: you acting crazy, you know. I talked called him my
Speaker 2: toxic mentor because he would give me advice, but it
Speaker 2: was always like really harsh. And I was like, the
Speaker 2: next time, I get it, and I got love and
Speaker 2: hip hop reunions and I just started saving everything. I
Speaker 2: started living under my means. So I was like, let
Speaker 2: me build this so that, like I can have two
Speaker 2: years of income so that the next time, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna let this network decide like whether I eat or not.
Speaker 16: Do you when you left? To go back a little bit,
Speaker 16: when you left TMZ, were you seeing your news producer?
Speaker 2: Where were you when I left TMC, I did not
Speaker 2: have a job. I quit because they did not want
Speaker 2: to pay me.
Speaker 16: Okay, because there's always been a conversation. I don't know.
Speaker 18: I was told this before I went there, so not
Speaker 18: even just internally, but just in the journalism world, that
Speaker 18: you had been offered news director or something like that.
Speaker 18: But they didn't want to, Like they didn't you thought
Speaker 18: you should have news director, but they didn't want to
Speaker 18: give it to you.
Speaker 2: It was a news director. But what actually happened, I've
Speaker 2: never told anybody this. I accidentally got my coworker's check
Speaker 2: and we were sitting next to you, you know, TMZ
Speaker 2: would have the desks where there was a divider, and
Speaker 2: they said his check next to me, and I was
Speaker 2: just opening it blindly. And he was making six figures.
Speaker 1: I was not.
Speaker 2: I was making well under that. And I had been
Speaker 2: there and I was contributing. I was breaking stories. I
Speaker 2: was a part of Michael Jackson's death being broken. I
Speaker 2: was a part of major store is Bernie mac dyan.
Speaker 2: I was the managing editor on weekends, so it was
Speaker 2: just me and in that office in a PA. I
Speaker 2: was in there working. I only had Wednesdays off. I
Speaker 2: gave up my weekends for three years, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I put in the work.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 2: It was my life. I didn't have a boyfriend, I
Speaker 2: didn't have friends. I wasn't going to the club, and
Speaker 2: I felt like I was old.
Speaker 6: This money.
Speaker 2: I think I was maybe making like fifty k Jesus
Speaker 2: and I just wanted what he was making. He was
Speaker 2: a white male, yes he was, and they were like no,
Speaker 2: And I was on every show and I was just like,
Speaker 2: y'all not gonna pay me. And we went into a
Speaker 2: little negotiation and I think maybe they offered me like
Speaker 2: ten more percent. I did not have another job. I
Speaker 2: did not have an agent, and I was like, I quit.
Speaker 2: I didn't have nothing, but I knew people liked me.
Speaker 2: And I reached out to a woman who used to
Speaker 2: be at Telepictures and she had just got an SBP
Speaker 2: job at CBS, and I was like. She was like, hey,
Speaker 2: we have the Insider once you come test for the Insider,
Speaker 2: and so I went tested for that and I got
Speaker 2: the Insider. But I didn't have anything when I left TMC,
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was going to do. The
Speaker 2: good thing about being young is because I was still
Speaker 2: in my twenties at the time, you little crazy, So
Speaker 2: you know, had I been this age, I might have
Speaker 2: been like, let me just figure something out. But now,
Speaker 2: you know, cause I got bills and big bills. But
Speaker 2: back then I was like, it ain't nothing for me
Speaker 2: to pack up the studio apartment, get on that couch.
Speaker 2: That was like you ain't trap me, and they was
Speaker 2: the best decision I could have made. I mean I
Speaker 2: left really at the Pinnacle. Vantage just started like it
Speaker 2: was really a good time to be there, and everybody
Speaker 2: told me not to quit. Everybody like socially TMC was
Speaker 2: really hot and like, cause this is the Paris Hilton
Speaker 2: Britney Spears era, so people were like, you're crazy to leave.
Speaker 2: But I was just like, this is not serving me.
Speaker 2: And they not only that, Like this was before paid
Speaker 2: disparity was really a thing, so it was just accepted
Speaker 2: that the women take less. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: work harder than all these people up in here, and
Speaker 2: I'm a black woman. And I mean when you guys
Speaker 2: started the Breakfast Club, that's how we met. We were
Speaker 2: started emailing, like dude, was like I got this new show.
Speaker 2: I was like, we're gonna put you on the show.
Speaker 2: And I've made a lot of contacts because I would
Speaker 2: reach out to black media and be like it on
Speaker 2: our bloc row, let me send you the break of news.
Speaker 2: Like I really cultivated. I still have all those relationships
Speaker 2: because I really was like I can't prevent them from
Speaker 2: putting this story out about black people, but I can
Speaker 2: at least give our side and if you call me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give your side out there because they didn't care.
Speaker 2: They would just put it up. And so that was
Speaker 2: really for me, like my time.
Speaker 13: So I was like, you're not gonna pay me, but
Speaker 13: still kicking it with Nina Parker and keV on stage.
Speaker 2: The new show Friday Night Vibes is on TBS. Was
Speaker 2: it toxic working there?
Speaker 16: Indeed?
Speaker 2: What I mean, listen this is I've heard. It's not
Speaker 2: like that anymore. I don't know, And this is one
Speaker 2: of the reasons you and I haven't talked because I
Speaker 2: checked out of all things TMZ. I never watched the
Speaker 2: show again. When I stopped like, I didn't, I stopped community.
Speaker 2: I didn't even I'm not commun here with people I knew,
Speaker 2: but anything like I just kind of shut that part
Speaker 2: of my braain off because I had a lot of
Speaker 2: PTSD and it was you have to think about it.
Speaker 2: This was like the birth of New age media. There
Speaker 2: were no rules, so we would work like fourteen hours
Speaker 2: a day. You would get in trouble for taking a lunch.
Speaker 2: You couldn't leave like your desk. You had to answer
Speaker 2: your phone at four in the morning. It was you
Speaker 2: would work weekends and you couldn't say no. We would rock.
Speaker 2: People would walk around with their laptop. We would go
Speaker 2: to a concert. You have to have the laptop in
Speaker 2: your back because if you got a call it for
Speaker 2: you didn't answer, you would get fired for it was
Speaker 2: over for you. So and I made the decision to
Speaker 2: participate in that because I didn't have anybody, I didn't
Speaker 2: have anything else. I didn't have a team. We were
Speaker 2: kind of deterred from getting a team, like you know.
Speaker 2: So the things I know now this is this is
Speaker 2: there was no HR no H.
Speaker 16: Was very new, and there there was the union. Things
Speaker 16: that come in when you have in your protection they
Speaker 16: got rid of.
Speaker 2: That didn't exist back then. Like they had Telepictures that
Speaker 2: was the parent company that technically you could go, but
Speaker 2: you didn't know anybody there because they weren't You only
Speaker 2: knew who was in the building. So it was it
Speaker 2: was really the wild West. And I probably I mean
Speaker 2: when Michael Jackson died, I didn't leave the office for
Speaker 2: three days, like we slept there and.
Speaker 15: That was your salary of fifty thousand dollars or less.
Speaker 2: What I mean, I think I was still making like
Speaker 2: the PA salary thing, which was I think I had
Speaker 2: got boosted like six fifty a week. Crazy thing is
Speaker 2: when Lauren started working here.
Speaker 13: You ever see that dog that they and I'm not
Speaker 13: comparing you to a dog, that dog that when you
Speaker 13: get out the shelter right and you put your.
Speaker 2: Hand up to pettit.
Speaker 13: And that's how Lauren was. Lauren was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 13: you guys just said the good job like it was.
Speaker 13: I'm like what I thought she was joking? Then I
Speaker 13: realized no, she was traumatized.
Speaker 2: How long were you there?
Speaker 18: How was that TMC for eight years? And when you
Speaker 18: come in you hear well from the black people there,
Speaker 18: you hear so much about you. Van was always really
Speaker 18: big about, you know, talking to me about you. He
Speaker 18: was there when I was. When I was there, so
Speaker 18: was Raquel. And then they left, and when they left
Speaker 18: it was me and I was like, what.
Speaker 2: At least you had the camaraderie.
Speaker 18: But then they left, right and then George Floyd and
Speaker 18: i'm o Avrey happened and it was like, oh.
Speaker 2: And you're fighting by yourself Because there's a lot of microaggression,
Speaker 2: there's macro too, and one of the things that was
Speaker 2: hard for me was like at the time, and this
Speaker 2: was before Van even got there. I was the only
Speaker 2: black person on camera. And so you are yes, yes,
Speaker 2: the stories you tell me yourself, and you feel an obligation,
Speaker 2: but sometimes you're tired. Right, But the thing is with
Speaker 2: black talent, especially, you don't have the luxury of being
Speaker 2: silent when it's a black issue, because they're gonna look
Speaker 2: at you in this room full of white people and
Speaker 2: wonder why you didn't say anything. They're not gonna think
Speaker 2: about Like I've been doing this every single day. I
Speaker 2: got a migraine. I'm tired, Like I'm tired of arguing.
Speaker 2: I know, their race baiting me. They bait you on purpose.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm like, I got to
Speaker 2: think about the people who are watching that look like me,
Speaker 2: that are like me, and why didn't you speak up?
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, as you age, fighting every
Speaker 2: day gets exhausting. And also when you get in baited
Speaker 2: because it's like, I don't mind having a healthy discussion,
Speaker 2: but you're purposely trying to bait me to have this
Speaker 2: conversation so you can have content, and I'm not really
Speaker 2: with that, And so you get tired of being used.
Speaker 2: You get tired of like when men being talked about,
Speaker 2: you know, you feel like I'm in this space. When
Speaker 2: I was there, it was very toxic, like we would
Speaker 2: get they had a relationship with Vivid because you know
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashians sex tape and they Vivid would send like
Speaker 2: sex tapees in and sometimes people would just watch him
Speaker 2: in the office, you know, and it was like you
Speaker 2: were like what am I What's going on? But then
Speaker 2: also you're like, well, what are my other options? And
Speaker 2: that's when you start to build these relationships and you're like,
Speaker 2: I got to make an exit plan.
Speaker 18: I had a I just want to say this real quick.
Speaker 18: Then we can move away from tim Z because you
Speaker 18: have moved away.
Speaker 2: But I met.
Speaker 18: About I met you a long time ago in LA
Speaker 18: and our interaction you weren't rude, but it just wasn't
Speaker 18: the best. And one I was about to leave, Ban
Speaker 18: was like, you should call me, and I was like,
Speaker 18: I don't think she cares for me that much, and
Speaker 18: he was really and I was like, well, and I
Speaker 18: told him, but now here in your I don't know
Speaker 18: if you even knew who I was, But if so,
Speaker 18: I'm thinking like maybe that I had nothing to do
Speaker 18: with that. But I never thought about this because when
Speaker 18: you're in that environment, you think it's regular, you think
Speaker 18: it's okay, right, I never thought about like what your
Speaker 18: post life felt like mentally having to go through and
Speaker 18: deal with all of that.
Speaker 2: I think that so I got to do you telling
Speaker 2: the world that Nina no I said, why would you
Speaker 2: do that?
Speaker 18: The reason I want to say that is because now
Speaker 18: I'm sitting here and I felt your emotion just now
Speaker 18: when you're talking about your experience, and I identify with
Speaker 18: it so much, and it made me think about if
Speaker 18: I were to run into someone right in that same
Speaker 18: predicament unknowingly, I might not like, you know, do you
Speaker 18: know what I'm trying to Well.
Speaker 2: You're reacting to the place, not the person, yes, And
Speaker 2: so you you know, it's like if someone brings up
Speaker 2: a relationship that hurts you, you're kind of like, especially
Speaker 2: if you're not in a space to like say, you're
Speaker 2: not thinking about it, and it jars you for a
Speaker 2: second where you're just like And also, I'm very media trained, right,
Speaker 2: so sometimes I don't want to speak bad on a place,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if my experience would be your experience.
Speaker 2: So there's a lot. I can't say to you without
Speaker 2: saying it right where I can. It's like, how do
Speaker 2: I tell this person that in the trenches and like
Speaker 2: get out quickly? Yes, because that may not be your journey.
Speaker 2: So how do I say that to you with because
Speaker 2: it's so nuanced. So it's just such a layered thing.
Speaker 2: So sometimes if like people come up and be like
Speaker 2: I'm at TMZ, I'm kind of and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you, because this is
Speaker 2: it's only something you understand if you've been there. It's
Speaker 2: like being in a sorority. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: and I think I've just healed from being there probably
Speaker 2: within the last like four years, four or five years.
Speaker 2: You I have this thing now where I'm my friends
Speaker 2: say I'm the fastest responder because you had to be
Speaker 2: this thing, right, I always Even now I'm not really
Speaker 2: in news anymore, like I'm a host for shows, and
Speaker 2: even now I feel like I got to look at
Speaker 2: these headlines, I'm like, what am I doing? I am
Speaker 2: posting about no news. I'm the first to post a
Speaker 2: tweet about it. Like, so you have these things so
Speaker 2: I don't remember the the interaction, but I'll say that
Speaker 2: it was so traumatizing that sometimes it was hard to
Speaker 2: react positively about it. And also, you know, as you grow,
Speaker 2: you learn how to temper that a little bit better.
Speaker 2: But I think probably when we met, I hadn't really
Speaker 2: quite learned time.
Speaker 16: It wasn't nothing crazy, but I just I felt your shock.
Speaker 16: I just didn't.
Speaker 18: I didn't under Yeah, I didn't understand what I felt
Speaker 18: until this moment and you were dealing with But I
Speaker 18: didn't know because when when we hear about your journey,
Speaker 18: then we just hear.
Speaker 2: Well, I've never talked about this is the first time.
Speaker 2: I think we always said things positively because ultimately it
Speaker 2: was a positive experience because I have never learned. You
Speaker 2: learned kind of when you're in that because it's like
Speaker 2: the army.
Speaker 16: But I tell people it was the best boot camp
Speaker 16: I've ever been.
Speaker 2: To, the best book camp you'll never And one thing
Speaker 2: I will say about Harvey is he, to this day
Speaker 2: probably the hardest work ethic of anyone I've ever known
Speaker 2: in the industry. But you you get a lot of
Speaker 2: trauma from it, and it's very difficult to express if
Speaker 2: you haven't been there. And then also it's like I
Speaker 2: don't want to make that my story. So you know,
Speaker 2: when I'm meeting somebody and we in a social setting,
Speaker 2: it's like it's still now. Some people say, oh, I
Speaker 2: know you from TMZ, and I cringe a little bit,
Speaker 2: not because I'm ashamed of it. I've done so much,
Speaker 2: but it's still something that's always associated with you and
Speaker 2: will always be, as you will know it will always be,
Speaker 2: and there's going to be a time where you just
Speaker 2: don't want to hear about it because you've accomplished so
Speaker 2: much more, and so it's a little triggering when someone
Speaker 2: comes up to you and wants to talk about it
Speaker 2: and you're just like, so like bringing up an X
Speaker 2: that you don't at all.
Speaker 4: Do it anymore, because what you really wanted to say
Speaker 4: to her probably was good luck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what am I supposed to say if you're in it?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I needed the money, but I forget
Speaker 18: what was going on at the time. But I think
Speaker 18: this was one of the times where I been wanted
Speaker 18: to quit and I just didn't. People think you're crazy
Speaker 18: to say that, and I was like, oh, I could
Speaker 18: talk to her.
Speaker 2: And then I wish we would have been introduced through
Speaker 2: VAN because there I would have loved to have talked
Speaker 2: to you one on one, like privately and just really
Speaker 2: give you a good download, because I know that you
Speaker 2: did reach out and DM and I never even saw
Speaker 2: them because weren't I wasn't following you, and I didn't
Speaker 2: even see him until I followed you, and I was like, dang,
Speaker 2: there's DMS in here, and I didn't even see this
Speaker 2: cry out for help. This is gonna be my last
Speaker 2: thing about the PD. What I found is a lot
Speaker 2: of people who leave only find their worth in posting
Speaker 2: news because they that's how you were rewarded then you
Speaker 2: were only you were. You could have been fired for
Speaker 2: not producing enough, so you find like you're worth in
Speaker 2: producing stuff. That's why, Like when I left, I would
Speaker 2: be posting breaking news and I didn't even have an
Speaker 2: outlet to attribute it to. And what it's what it
Speaker 2: allowed me to do when I took a step back
Speaker 2: was start to put more worth in like me, what
Speaker 2: I'm saying and the other things, because I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I really like news anymore,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if this is something I even
Speaker 2: enjoy anymore, Like I enjoy talking to people, I enjoy
Speaker 2: x y Z, like what else can I dive into?
Speaker 2: And for you, what I would like to say is,
Speaker 2: and I think you're very good at it, but you know,
Speaker 2: and I know you have other things that you like to,
Speaker 2: you know, get into, and I just don't want you
Speaker 2: to get caught up in this thing of like I
Speaker 2: have to produce to be value because it's like what
Speaker 2: who you are that brings the value, not being first
Speaker 2: because we're we kind of are taught to like we
Speaker 2: got to be first, even just have.
Speaker 1: Heard.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the value is not in being
Speaker 2: first anymore because this is what I have learned. It's
Speaker 2: what you're going to talk about that is valuable because
Speaker 2: you're not technically in the news place that has to
Speaker 2: be first.
Speaker 16: And just sometimes you when you hear that, did you
Speaker 16: hear that?
Speaker 2: A sense of urgency is what makes you special because
Speaker 2: you care and that's important. But I think people care
Speaker 2: just they want to know that these days everybody can
Speaker 2: get it anywhere correct. They want your take on it.
Speaker 2: So and you were correct and everybody else is wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know I was.
Speaker 16: Correct.
Speaker 2: Friday Night Vibes on TV.
Speaker 15: We appreciate you guys coming up and don't be strange.
Speaker 2: You could come home feel like you need a girl.
Speaker 2: I was watching too. I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this is really happening. They're gonna put this on team.
Speaker 15: But please come on, if you are in town, please
Speaker 15: come on away.
Speaker 2: Seven years to get Kemp. So yeah, well, y'all just
Speaker 2: had him.
Speaker 6: So this was fine.
Speaker 2: I was fullying. I was in the coverage, tweeting fill
Speaker 2: into yes, yes, I have a I have a clothing
Speaker 2: line for plus women sizes twelve to thirty is. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's in stores, is at Macy's. It's doing very well,
Speaker 2: and so this is one of the designs. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's do you know the multiple streams is always needed
Speaker 2: me to parking, not the little to keep a check.
Speaker 13: It's Nina Parker kept on stage Friday night vibes on TBS.
Speaker 2: It's the breakfast club.
Speaker 15: Good morning, that donkey, donkey that don't don't don't jump
Speaker 15: dunk the.
Speaker 12: Other day, right, there's a breakfast club.
Speaker 2: Bitches, you can call me the donkey of the day,
Speaker 2: but like I need no harm, Yes donkey, whoa why
Speaker 2: the hell I'm so loud? Scar myself?
Speaker 1: Don'ty today goes to a Pennsylvania woman named Christina solar Meado.
Speaker 1: Christine this Solemido is forty four years old, and she
Speaker 1: did something that people figuratively talk about doing. And I
Speaker 1: wish I could cress on the radio but I can't.
Speaker 1: But just know Bicki MinID wrote the song about doing
Speaker 1: this to her ops. She called it did it on him.
Speaker 1: But that's the clean version. Yeah, let's hear some of
Speaker 1: this classic.
Speaker 2: Can you remember this right? Yes, that's how a clean
Speaker 2: version go. No, it was okay, turn it up, let
Speaker 2: me hit it.
Speaker 4: Okay, keep the instrumental going for me.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yes, See all of y'all talk about releasing snak missiles
Speaker 1: on your ops, but she never actually released the chocolate hostages.
Speaker 4: But Christina actually did. Let's go to NBC ten Philly
Speaker 4: for the report.
Speaker 21: Police the police chief or Prospect Park says he has
Speaker 21: seen some road reach cases during his career. Somebody cuts
Speaker 21: someone off, then the drivers might get into a heated exchange,
Speaker 21: then they typically drive away. But in this case on Tuesday,
Speaker 21: there was a little more to that, and the incident
Speaker 21: was captured on video by a bystander. That video, shared
Speaker 21: thousands of times on Instagram, shows a woman identified Thursday
Speaker 21: as Christina Solometto walking to another woman's car.
Speaker 16: The forty four year old sits on the hood or not,
Speaker 16: showing the.
Speaker 21: Most graphic parts of the video, including when she appeared
Speaker 21: to defecate on the car. Solometto was brought to the
Speaker 21: Prospect Park Police Department Thursday in handcuffs, offering no remarks.
Speaker 21: She faces a number of charges, including in decent exposure
Speaker 21: and depositing waste on a highway.
Speaker 4: Imagine how mad you got to be the weaponize your
Speaker 4: own digestive system.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is biological warfare, all right.
Speaker 1: I respect people who can back the brown Caldillac out
Speaker 1: of the garage in public.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not one of those people.
Speaker 2: Now. I am very regular. Okay, eight thirty am every.
Speaker 4: Morning, I'm making a tombstone in the water grave here
Speaker 4: at work. But if somebody comes in the bathroom or
Speaker 4: sits in the stall next to me, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a cowboy fan, but I can't take the
Speaker 1: Browns through the Super Bowl if someone else is in
Speaker 1: the bathroom with me.
Speaker 4: So the fact this woman was able to bake some butt.
Speaker 1: Brownies in public on Q It's impressive, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something, Christina. The reason you get in the
Speaker 1: biggest he hards because, according to the police Affidavid, you said,
Speaker 1: and I quote, I wanted to punch you in the face,
Speaker 1: but I pooped on our car instead and went home.
Speaker 2: I would rather you punched it in the face.
Speaker 4: Okay. It takes way more energy to pull your pants.
Speaker 1: Down and birth a creamy behemoth in public than it
Speaker 1: does to punch someone in the face. Now, Christina allegedly
Speaker 1: told cops that it was a clean poop.
Speaker 4: I didn't have to wipe.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: Quote For the record, there is no such thing as
Speaker 1: a clean wipe, okay, are a clean poop?
Speaker 4: When you release the mud monkeys, the antal area.
Speaker 2: Becomes soiled with stool and you gotta clean it, okay.
Speaker 1: Fecal mata contains bacteria and other micro organisms that can
Speaker 1: cause infections, are spread if not properly cleaned the way
Speaker 1: and having residual dookie around the rim of your bookie
Speaker 1: can cause discomfort, okay, itching and irritation whenever the inside
Speaker 1: of your bonky itchin guarantees you didn't wipe properly. But
Speaker 1: there is no clean kills. When you push you out
Speaker 1: a suel snake. Okay, when you launch for torpedos, there
Speaker 1: is always a casualty.
Speaker 4: That's all I got. Please give Christina Solar medal the
Speaker 4: biggest he hull he ha he ha.
Speaker 2: You stupid mother.
Speaker 10: Are you dumb the amounts of effort in which you
Speaker 10: put that presentation?
Speaker 2: Yes, you did? You literally, boy, like you ate that
Speaker 2: I would never eat.
Speaker 10: But what I'm saying you literally you told that story
Speaker 10: like Maya Angela.
Speaker 15: All right, well, thank you for that donkey of the day.
Speaker 2: Now when we come back, thank you for that douchy.
Speaker 16: Of the day.
Speaker 6: The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 15: DJ n V Jess hilarious, Chela mean the.
Speaker 13: Guy we are the Breakfast Club Laura l Rossa Field
Speaker 13: in for just today we got a special guest in
Speaker 13: the building.
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed we have the brother Leon Thomas.
Speaker 14: Welcome, Bro, It's good, it's good. Hey y'all feeling how
Speaker 14: you feeling? Bless Black and Holly favorite Leon. You are
Speaker 14: by far the greatest new male R and B singer
Speaker 14: doing it today.
Speaker 2: Man, thank you so much.
Speaker 4: That shouldn't even be up with debate.
Speaker 2: Man, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Man, how do you receive it?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, to be honest, I try to
Speaker 3: just take it one step at a time. You know,
Speaker 3: I try to stay humble with everything. But I'm glad
Speaker 3: to be a new voice in R and B. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a genre that I love. You know, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to bring back live musicianship, real songs.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: Writing with the team that I have has been an
Speaker 3: amazing pleasure. And you know, just bringing like that, that
Speaker 3: organic feeling back to the live stage is like a
Speaker 3: big thing for me.
Speaker 13: You know, for people that don't know Leon Thomas, you
Speaker 13: know you started on Broadway. Tell everybody how you got
Speaker 13: your start and your way into being this R and
Speaker 13: B star. Well, listen, I grew up in New York,
Speaker 13: started on Broadway out here. I did three Broadway plays
Speaker 13: from Lion King the Carolina changed the color purple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was assembling in Lion King. And then
Speaker 3: you know, I started booking movies and TV show.
Speaker 2: How How was that?
Speaker 15: I just took my kids to see. You know, it
Speaker 15: was insane, was that training? Because it's a lot of.
Speaker 3: Shows, a lot of people in it's live, so you
Speaker 3: can't mess up. No, no, no, you can't mess up.
Speaker 3: It's eight shows a week. I was ten years old
Speaker 3: when I did my first Broadway play. Shout out to
Speaker 3: my mom and my family for you know, supporting me
Speaker 3: through that whole journey. And yeah, man, I went from
Speaker 3: being a regular kid to starring on Broadway and a
Speaker 3: matter of months.
Speaker 2: You know, Now, how was that?
Speaker 13: Because it's not the typical thing New York kids do, right,
Speaker 13: So you're singing, you're dancing, you're doing that.
Speaker 2: So how did you get it to.
Speaker 13: That point of No, because you go to Broadway. I
Speaker 13: don't know anybody they went to Broway, it's very differ.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I had a couple homies who ended up in different plays,
Speaker 3: but for the most part, yeah, yeah, it was definitely
Speaker 3: like a bit of an anomaly for my neighborhood in Brooklyn.
Speaker 11: It was.
Speaker 3: It was kind of weird playing it to my homies
Speaker 3: in school, like, yeah, I was just doing a show
Speaker 3: last night.
Speaker 2: They're like, what was going on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not from New York, from the hoods of
Speaker 4: New York.
Speaker 3: Okay, but no, it was definitely a real pleasure, you know.
Speaker 3: But but but from there, I ended up doing a
Speaker 3: lot of TV and film.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: I shot my first movie out here with Robin Williams
Speaker 3: and Terrence Howard called August Rush, which was an amazing pleasure,
Speaker 3: and that kind of brought me into a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of TV after that with Nickelodeon and Victorious Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: with Arianna Grande, and you know, that was a big journey.
Speaker 3: That was the number one show on the network at
Speaker 3: the time. We were beating out American Idol and it
Speaker 3: was a way for the rest of the world to
Speaker 3: kind of really tap into who I am as a creative.
Speaker 3: But it took years of really honing in on who
Speaker 3: I am as an artist to get to this point,
Speaker 3: producing and writing for a bunch of different artists, went
Speaker 3: in a Grammy, working with Siza and a Babyface Drake,
Speaker 3: a bunch of different people. It's been a actually dou
Speaker 3: for Drake, but but you know, shout out to him
Speaker 3: and yeah, allegedly, man, but you know, from me, I
Speaker 3: don't think there's anything wrong with it either. But it
Speaker 3: was a blessing to I mean, it's interesting because I'm
Speaker 3: an artist and people see me as a singer, they
Speaker 3: kind of forget that I also produced a lot of
Speaker 3: big records.
Speaker 2: You know, my production game is pretty tight. So yeah,
Speaker 2: all purpose your lyrics like that of a rap.
Speaker 14: But that's why when I see Freddie Gibbs on your records,
Speaker 14: But it makes so much sense to be you're still
Speaker 14: touching anybody from.
Speaker 3: Victoria's absolutely man, you know, I'll chop it up with
Speaker 3: Ari Avan. Joe Gia is a really good friend of mine.
Speaker 3: You know, Matt Bennett, a lot of the cast. We
Speaker 3: all hang out and do lunch. It's kind of like
Speaker 3: my last two years of high school were with them,
Speaker 3: so that's like my graduating class. Essentially. We were all
Speaker 3: in school together, so we filmed, but we also went
Speaker 3: to school. So Tho was my really good friends.
Speaker 4: To Victoria and her mom. I did a host of
Speaker 4: the New Year's Eve special with them for real.
Speaker 2: Oh that's dope. People.
Speaker 3: You ever wrote for a Yeah? Actually I worked with
Speaker 3: her on her first album. That was my first time
Speaker 3: on number one with an album. I did about like
Speaker 3: four songs on her first album, Yours truly Wow, So
Speaker 3: that was a real pleasure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you know you always wanted to be an
Speaker 2: R and B singer? Like?
Speaker 13: It was that the goal as a kid growing up?
Speaker 13: You always wanted to be an actor? Like and when
Speaker 13: did you pivot? When he was like this is what
Speaker 13: I want to do.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 3: I feel like I did this role with Katherine Bigelow,
Speaker 3: She's an Oscar Award winning director, but I had to
Speaker 3: cut my dreads for it, and that was kind of
Speaker 3: like my last straw in acting.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I did this role for Detroit and I felt like,
Speaker 3: you know, I need to kind of tap back into
Speaker 3: who I am as an artist. You know, grew my
Speaker 3: dreads back, really got into my internal self meditating, really
Speaker 3: like tapping into who I am as a human being,
Speaker 3: and a lot of great music came out of that.
Speaker 3: You know, I always knew I wanted to be a singer,
Speaker 3: but I knew for a fact I needed to really
Speaker 3: present myself as who I truly was. It's so easy
Speaker 3: to play a character when you're always acting. You know,
Speaker 3: I needed to come to the world as my true
Speaker 3: self when you were on.
Speaker 18: The like the sets when you like even with like
Speaker 18: Victorious and stuff like that. What was your mom and
Speaker 18: like your parents there often or talked a lot about
Speaker 18: that too, Like parents were close.
Speaker 2: Now they were there, they were there.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: My mom was never like a mamager like over my
Speaker 3: over my shoulder kind of mom, but she was also
Speaker 3: very protective of my piece and mental health and making
Speaker 3: sure that I'm just like in a good, good space
Speaker 3: while I'm while I'm trying to create something timeless, and
Speaker 3: you know, shout out to her for just always you know,
Speaker 3: creating safe spaces for me throughout that journey. You know,
Speaker 3: from getting slimmed, it was definitely nuts, definitely nuts, you know,
Speaker 3: seeing seeing how everything with them, Definitely it's definitely definitely insane.
Speaker 4: Don't say that, definitely nuts after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, you know it's crazy. It's
Speaker 3: crazy because you know, I just saw the doc not
Speaker 3: too long ago. It's definitely eye opening. And a lot
Speaker 3: of my castmates we hopped on a Zoom call. We
Speaker 3: all wanted to talk about it. And luckily during during
Speaker 3: in our seasons, it was it was very wholesome and chill.
Speaker 3: But you know, shout out to anybody who dealt with
Speaker 3: anything bad. I mean, I you know, my heart definitely
Speaker 3: goes out to them.
Speaker 14: The thing I love about your music too is number one,
Speaker 14: I can tell you you got a sense of freedom. Yeah,
Speaker 14: but did that come with money or does that come
Speaker 14: with just how you came up? You know, with your
Speaker 14: mom doing music, so you always felt free as an artist.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think the greatest thing about
Speaker 3: being an artist is that it's a it's a great
Speaker 3: representation of being a free black man, you know, like,
Speaker 3: you know, being able to wear what I want, you know,
Speaker 3: say what I want on on record is really important
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: I try to stay as grounded and uh as real
Speaker 3: to who I am as I can be. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think it's it's it's really easy to want to
Speaker 3: be an artist and play a character who you think
Speaker 3: people want you to be. But I'm doing my best
Speaker 3: to just like kind of just say what I want
Speaker 3: what I want, you know, when you come up.
Speaker 18: With songs, but like I like feelings on Silent I
Speaker 18: love but songs like that, Like when I listen to it,
Speaker 18: each time I get something different from it. So the
Speaker 18: first time I listened, I was like, Oh, this is
Speaker 18: like guys just being like we keep her feelingce to herself.
Speaker 18: And then the second time I listened, I'm like, this
Speaker 18: is the trauma that they deal with because like he
Speaker 18: mentions PTSD and a bunch of other things, like how
Speaker 18: do you first of all, sitting.
Speaker 16: Back you wrote that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I sitting back
Speaker 16: and writing with him.
Speaker 18: How do you be like, Okay, here's all the things
Speaker 18: that we want people to get when they hear this,
Speaker 18: or do you guys just write and whatever people get
Speaker 18: they get, Like were you dealing with something yourself then?
Speaker 2: Or you know? The way I wrote that record was
Speaker 2: really interesting.
Speaker 3: I was in I was in Italy actually, I was
Speaker 3: working with Ya and TOI Dollars on the Vultures one project,
Speaker 3: and I just had some lyrics kind of you know,
Speaker 3: bubbling up in my head. But I think it was
Speaker 3: one of those moments that it was just kind of
Speaker 3: stream of consciousness. I didn't really think too hard on
Speaker 3: my sections. That was like my second take that you're
Speaker 3: hearing there. It wasn't like me like kind of really
Speaker 3: punching in a bunch of different ideas. It was just
Speaker 3: kind of flowing. And when Wile heard it, that was
Speaker 3: probably the hardest verse to get because we did probably
Speaker 3: we did like five sessions to get that one verse.
Speaker 3: But Yo, he's so talented and seeing how he crafted
Speaker 3: his verse, I mean, he would do like five bars
Speaker 3: at the time, and he really cared about the poetry
Speaker 3: of it all. And it's why I really respect him
Speaker 3: as an artist. He's just a true lyricist who.
Speaker 13: Of course Leam Thomas a singer, songwriter, producer and acting.
Speaker 13: His album Mutt is out right now, and we got
Speaker 13: to congratulate you because you gotta Grammy for your record
Speaker 13: with Sism. We tell everybody that we helped with that
Speaker 13: because we played Snooze every morning four times.
Speaker 2: You wrote Snooze produced on Snooze.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 3: First of all, let's clear this up. Shout out to
Speaker 3: Scissen for writing that record. We were producing in a
Speaker 3: separate room and she heard the instrumental and was like, yo,
Speaker 3: what is that? And you know, there there is something
Speaker 3: that I do where I like take my voice and
Speaker 3: I chop it up like a sample because clearing samples
Speaker 3: is really expensive and cuts into the publishing. So rather
Speaker 3: than it's like actually doing a sample, I'll just you know,
Speaker 3: red sing a little something, right.
Speaker 2: So she really liked that and then took it into
Speaker 2: the other.
Speaker 3: Room and wrote an amazing song and being a part
Speaker 3: of the production on that with Babyface legendary baby Face
Speaker 3: was a true pleasure man. I mean, it was a
Speaker 3: real journey to see that song go from like a
Speaker 3: crowd favorite to a Grammy Award winning r and B
Speaker 3: song Man.
Speaker 2: That was definitely life changing for me.
Speaker 4: You got a deduction team, right, yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rascal was me, Me and and Chris tians Man.
Speaker 3: We've been working together since we were like eighteen, so
Speaker 3: it's really cool to see the growth. I mean, we
Speaker 3: started off, you know, a little shaky when it came
Speaker 3: to production, but it's nice to see us, you know,
Speaker 3: really develop into the producers we are now. We had
Speaker 3: great mentors.
Speaker 18: Man, you have such big moments like even before that
Speaker 18: and during that, but it's like, I don't know, like
Speaker 18: when do you feel like things started like to click
Speaker 18: finally where people were like, oh shoot, Leon, like.
Speaker 16: We get it now.
Speaker 2: It's really interesting.
Speaker 3: I like to call it the Drake effect when I
Speaker 3: was working when I was working with Drake, all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, label executives who have known me for years
Speaker 3: were like, eh, I think you could be an artist,
Speaker 3: you know, And I was like, okay, So I kind
Speaker 3: of peeped that, and I said, okay, well let's start
Speaker 3: kind of building this out. But I knew I wanted
Speaker 3: that that same formula that Drake had with a Lil
Speaker 3: Wayne and and and you know, working with Todd dallas
Speaker 3: Son was a really smart move, not only because he's
Speaker 3: just an amazing artist, but because it was just nice
Speaker 3: to have a mentor who had done it already.
Speaker 2: So he's he's just like kind of like, yo, try this.
Speaker 3: Make sure the look has this, or you know, even
Speaker 3: when it came to the music, like here's how you
Speaker 3: really format an album, and I'm definitely doing a lot
Speaker 3: of studying, you know, shout out to Todd dallas Sign
Speaker 3: for sure. He definitely, you know, saw something in me
Speaker 3: that a lot of label executives were not sure about,
Speaker 3: and uh, it's cool to see it developing.
Speaker 2: How did you real, Tom?
Speaker 6: How did you tie me?
Speaker 3: I was actually working on his album as a producer
Speaker 3: on featuring Todd dallas Sign. I was like one of
Speaker 3: I think nine producers on a song with Kanye and
Speaker 3: Thundercat and a bunch of other people.
Speaker 4: Nine producers on one record.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like when it it was like point five,
Speaker 3: like I was just there out of this or that
Speaker 3: vocal and like some bass or something. But but he
Speaker 3: had everybody play like their un least records and I
Speaker 3: played on some of my first album as like demos,
Speaker 3: and Todd was like, yo, you really You're really tight,
Speaker 3: you know as an artist, he was like man and
Speaker 3: he was originally trying to record one of the songs
Speaker 3: that I had, but I was like, nah, I want
Speaker 3: you to feature on it. And over the years we
Speaker 3: became really good friends. I was working with him a
Speaker 3: lot and just kind of developed into a into a
Speaker 3: whole situation with Sean Baron. Sean Barron is the guy
Speaker 3: who officially like put it all together with Easy Money
Speaker 3: in Motown.
Speaker 18: Is it tough navigating because people are getting to know
Speaker 18: you now and everybody's fall in love with your music now,
Speaker 18: and like you have such a close association with Drake,
Speaker 18: you have to like pick and choose where you go
Speaker 18: musically and what you do musically with.
Speaker 2: Who you know.
Speaker 4: Honestly, can you work with Kendrick Lamar if you want to? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know that's what she's asking. I mean,
Speaker 3: the way, the way I really look at it is
Speaker 3: just like on a political level, I make R and B.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously I make hip hop too, but I'm
Speaker 3: really focused on my artist journey. So I mean, Kendrick
Speaker 3: is such a huge artist. I don't really foresee us
Speaker 3: working together in the near future. And even with Drake.
Speaker 3: You know, I still want to take my steps to
Speaker 3: really build on my own two feet as an artist.
Speaker 3: So I'm doing what i have to do right now
Speaker 3: to really like grow my own business. Touring is a
Speaker 3: big thing for me. I'm really focused on that. I'm
Speaker 3: hitting the road all this year and working on more records.
Speaker 3: So I mean shout out to everybody, but but I'm
Speaker 3: definitely focused on me.
Speaker 1: How old were you when you realize Vibes Don't Lie?
Speaker 1: One of my favorite records, When you first realized Vibes
Speaker 1: Don't Lie?
Speaker 2: I think that was that was definitely early twenties.
Speaker 3: I think uh LA is filled with facades and people
Speaker 3: who are pretending to be something they aren't, people who
Speaker 3: move from their hometown and create a whole new persona.
Speaker 3: So I think for me, just really studying folks, especially
Speaker 3: a lot of the women you deal without their you know,
Speaker 3: it's really important to study their actions and not their words.
Speaker 14: I love the fact that you are encouraging women women
Speaker 14: to keep their healthy Yes, did you ever want to
Speaker 14: be a gun of collusest?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it wasn't on the list.
Speaker 2: Listen, Yeah, I just listen. I just listen. Man, They
Speaker 2: tell you like, Hey, I'm feeling the best of this.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think pH balance is a conversation
Speaker 2: and you know, I just listen.
Speaker 14: You was very very specific. She said, uh, she only
Speaker 14: drink water. She keep that healthy.
Speaker 18: They said on Twitter, you'd be talking crazy like that,
Speaker 18: but you sing it, so people can't be you had
Speaker 18: that conversation in real life, which your home.
Speaker 16: Like you're not your homegrow.
Speaker 3: I'm just big on shock value. I think songs, especially
Speaker 3: R and B songs, have gotten a bit not boring.
Speaker 3: But I think we've we've kind of already hit the
Speaker 3: the golden era of R and B. So I'm just
Speaker 3: finding new ways to make people's ears, you know, perk
Speaker 3: up and their minds move. I think social media and
Speaker 3: podcasts are really interesting to me. You know, these phone
Speaker 3: mics bring out so many conversations, and I think as
Speaker 3: an R and B artist, I want to find ways
Speaker 3: to let that live on the record, and it doesn't
Speaker 3: always have to be like verbating of what I'm going
Speaker 3: through in real life.
Speaker 2: I think it's important to create the drama.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I kind of see music as you know, scripting the score.
Speaker 3: So sometimes the records are just like really good dramatizations
Speaker 3: of like what I'm seeing.
Speaker 2: You never think everybody?
Speaker 16: But but like, why does that go for you?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think. I don't think it's now.
Speaker 18: Expecting you to be like, all right, here's the check,
Speaker 18: Like how do you because you got the songs?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, you know, I definitely got the songs.
Speaker 3: But I think it's just important to be honest with
Speaker 3: your partner, you know, communicate. But but I think it's
Speaker 3: it's a it's a pretty interesting conversation. I try to
Speaker 3: stay out of if I don't have to. You know what, No,
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that is you putting me
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 2: Test a little bit, a.
Speaker 1: Little wax on it, a little pinky, put the pinky
Speaker 1: inside of hold on what you got something?
Speaker 2: It should be. I don't know where that is nothing
Speaker 2: that South Carolina the road thing that they do. It doesn't.
Speaker 2: I do not try that.
Speaker 16: That doesn't Your mom never told you you got to
Speaker 16: make it.
Speaker 4: Go drink gingerrels talking.
Speaker 16: About people everything, not earwax. Don't listen to him.
Speaker 8: That's what.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 16: Macarmo used to be like, go get some ginger and
Speaker 16: lay down.
Speaker 2: Wow about we love gingerrel around here.
Speaker 4: Did your therapist really tell you that you're too detached
Speaker 4: or that you don't commit?
Speaker 5: Nah?
Speaker 3: I think I think you know that bar for me.
Speaker 3: I have a colt writer, Busy Cruk, and he lives
Speaker 3: in Miami, great rapper. That was a bar that came
Speaker 3: from him. He's very deep into therapy. But I'm glad
Speaker 3: that we talked about it on record because I mean
Speaker 3: it's something I definitely did try out over the pandemic
Speaker 3: and it's something that I actually really respect you a
Speaker 3: lot for a champion and.
Speaker 2: You know, but but but yeah, that was a that
Speaker 2: was a bar from Busy. But I thought it was
Speaker 2: important to add in there.
Speaker 16: You know, don't try to blame Busy now.
Speaker 6: Nah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that's my code, Roger. You know,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, we we write a lot of our songs together,
Speaker 3: and I really respect a lot of the perspectives he
Speaker 3: brings to a lot of my poignant records.
Speaker 2: You know, you have some great bars for dancing with.
Speaker 18: When I listened to Dancing with the Demons, do you
Speaker 18: ever get like Miguel references sometimes?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm like.
Speaker 16: Oh my gosh, Like I wonder if like that, Like,
Speaker 16: are y'all do you know him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like my big bro. We actually did a
Speaker 3: movie together. He was in Detroit when I had to
Speaker 3: cut my hair for he was. He was an amazing,
Speaker 3: amazing mentor for me for some years. You know that
Speaker 3: bridge between R and B and rock and roll, He's
Speaker 3: traveled across that bridge many a time. I definitely look
Speaker 3: up to him when it comes to that. And you know,
Speaker 3: for me, because I played multiple instruments, you know, I
Speaker 3: definitely try to just embody a lot of that energy.
Speaker 3: But but I think we both have the same influences
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 14: I agree with Lauren on that Miguel to me before
Speaker 14: you was the last great R and B male R
Speaker 14: and B singer. To me, I'm just talk about the
Speaker 14: new guys. You know the legend I'm talking about. He
Speaker 14: was the last one to me. And I felt the
Speaker 14: same way when I heard Dancer with the Demons. I
Speaker 14: feel like I feel like you're talking to yourself on
Speaker 14: that record. Though you said you can't seem to save yourself,
Speaker 14: never learn to ask for help going out all night
Speaker 14: searching for a feeling. So so what what what have
Speaker 14: you learned to ask for.
Speaker 16: Help and so what I thought, I took it as
Speaker 16: it wasn't talking about a woman.
Speaker 2: Point.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's interesting for me, like that record.
Speaker 3: When I wrote it, I wrote it in two different days.
Speaker 3: The first day I was you know, micro dosan on shrooms,
Speaker 3: so it's a bit of a haze. The next day
Speaker 3: I listened to it and I was like, man, this
Speaker 3: is really poignant stuff. I mean, it's just really talking
Speaker 3: about being up all night and searching for a feeling,
Speaker 3: and it's trying to fill voids. I feel like, as uh,
Speaker 3: you know, when you're in your single journey, you can
Speaker 3: you can try to fill a void with a with
Speaker 3: a stranger and that's not always very healthy.
Speaker 2: And it could be fun.
Speaker 3: It could be fun, for sure, But but but and
Speaker 3: then especially when you're when you're in the limelight. The
Speaker 3: second verse is more so talking about being in the
Speaker 3: limelight and trying to fill voice. Nobody really talks about
Speaker 3: the darkness that comes with the flashing lights. And yeah,
Speaker 3: that that that record was very deep and very personal
Speaker 3: for me. You know, I'm glad that people resonate with it.
Speaker 13: Now you talk about Micaro Dosin on shrooms, but what
Speaker 13: does that put your mind and do you always do
Speaker 13: that to produce and write?
Speaker 7: Nah?
Speaker 3: Nah, I mean I think I think for this this album,
Speaker 3: it was an interesting opportunity to to kind of unplug.
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't doing as many shows around that
Speaker 3: time too, so it was really helpful to to kind
Speaker 3: of just get into my own head and try to
Speaker 3: figure out who I am, you know. I I I
Speaker 3: definitely did a lot of manifest and a lot of
Speaker 3: just like writing down who I wanted to be as
Speaker 3: a human being around that time, a lot of journaling,
Speaker 3: you know, and looking back at that season in my life,
Speaker 3: it was it was a journey for me to evolve
Speaker 3: into who I am right now. I wouldn't suggest people
Speaker 3: just go super crazy on shrooms or anything, but I
Speaker 3: think microdosing, you know, a small amount, could be healthy
Speaker 3: if you're trying to just find yourself, you know.
Speaker 2: And at the time, I was trying to find myself,
Speaker 2: you know, micro do.
Speaker 16: You said you were trying to find yourself. Did you
Speaker 16: find yourself?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But I mean I feel like that's a constant journey.
Speaker 3: That's like the whole part of finding yourself. You realize
Speaker 3: it it never stops because we're always evolving, you know,
Speaker 3: but it's it's great that I was able to do
Speaker 3: it through music that that that was like a version
Speaker 3: of musical therapy for me, And I'm glad that people
Speaker 3: are resonating with it.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: I love how you're normalizing dogs on but I'm not
Speaker 4: a dog anymore.
Speaker 14: There is a young, unhealed version of me that would
Speaker 14: have really appreciated that that record, because you make it
Speaker 14: sound so fun. It's almost like women are just gonna
Speaker 14: bring you in, like, oh, let me domesticate you.
Speaker 1: Nah.
Speaker 3: I mean I was really just documenting what I saw,
Speaker 3: but nah, nah nah, it's definitely.
Speaker 2: Its definitely talks to me.
Speaker 3: Post you know, post breakup, where where I just had
Speaker 3: to I just had to figure it out. But I
Speaker 3: think that's all a part of living, you know, you
Speaker 3: get nervous though. This is a post breakup album. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is a post breakup album. So this is me documenting,
Speaker 3: you know, finding myself first off, like you know, you
Speaker 3: you're you're kind of broken after that, and then you
Speaker 3: got to you gotta put the pieces back together.
Speaker 2: Her fault, Yes, No, it's not her fault.
Speaker 1: It's it's her fault that you ended up being a dog,
Speaker 1: you went through your own I think it's very commendable
Speaker 1: to that. On the song safe place, you let the
Speaker 1: person you're dealing with, no, this isn't a safe place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think knowing that I wasn't
Speaker 3: necessarily ready to settle down. I think that conversation definitely
Speaker 3: came up a lot during I guess you would call
Speaker 3: them all face you know, just understanding like, yo, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to settle down. This is a this
Speaker 3: is a fun place, you know. This is a a
Speaker 3: time period where I'm just figuring me out. Work is crazy,
Speaker 3: it's ecnic, you know, And I think having that conversation
Speaker 3: was important to, like you said, just avoid people not
Speaker 3: understanding what it was at the time.
Speaker 13: That's a personal because you're honest in music. But it's
Speaker 13: difficult to be face to face with somebody and be
Speaker 13: like it's very this is very difficult.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: I really try my best to be as honest as
Speaker 3: I can, but yeah, those are hard conversations, man. You know,
Speaker 3: I can't sit here and say I've always done it
Speaker 3: right or I'm perfect or anything. But I try I
Speaker 3: try to be like real, you know, I try to
Speaker 3: explain myself. But even when you explain yourself, sometimes wires
Speaker 3: get crossed, you know. So I'm packing it and communicating,
Speaker 3: you know, it's an important thing later on.
Speaker 6: No woman want to hear that.
Speaker 4: She just lets you hit wrong.
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's not as a woman ever
Speaker 18: said that to you when you were trying to like create,
Speaker 18: like all right, maybe this is like a thing and
Speaker 18: she's like, yo, I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to do that.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Actually yeah yeah. In my in my early twenties, I
Speaker 3: was talking to this amazing artist. Uh and yeah she
Speaker 3: was just like listen baby, the same safe place kind
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 2: You know, anybody know that. She's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't think you got it up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no no.
Speaker 3: It was all good for me at that point. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it was definitely you know, it was definitely
Speaker 3: a realization for me. I was like, oh, it can
Speaker 3: happen on that side too. I was like twenty maybe twenty.
Speaker 2: One, you know. Yeah, yeah, so I was like real
Speaker 2: young green like, oh okay, alright, cool.
Speaker 3: So you're all looking for a relationship now if the
Speaker 3: right person, Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely I'm definitely.
Speaker 2: In that mode.
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 16: Are you would you date other like artists celebrities or
Speaker 16: do you like, how does that work? Are you doing?
Speaker 2: It's just hectic.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're kind of inviting the media into your
Speaker 3: life like the one safe place you have. But I mean,
Speaker 3: who knows if I really catch a vibe with somebody
Speaker 3: who happens to be fans. I mean, I don't really
Speaker 3: care about that side of things. You know, I've been
Speaker 3: in the game a long time. I've met some beautiful
Speaker 3: women who are amazing artists. But it's just about the
Speaker 3: human being and it can be tough to to really
Speaker 3: build something if both of your schedules are super hectic.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 14: I don't want to have a question two about another
Speaker 14: record on far Fit. Yeah, you said, because he was
Speaker 14: having a big conversation this week about Tricken Because you know,
Speaker 14: Skip Bail is a legedly, Oh my god, for somebody
Speaker 14: one point five million, and you say paid for my
Speaker 14: mistakes and benes and diamonds two fifty fronted like you
Speaker 14: was my autist. Five g's just across the Atlantic. We
Speaker 14: sat in silence for almost two hours.
Speaker 16: Yeah, that's a horrible BACA quarter million dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, benzes and diamonds.
Speaker 3: Well, listen, when I wrote that record, it was not
Speaker 3: for me. That was not a joint that I was
Speaker 3: originally gonna use for me. It was for somebody really
Speaker 3: famous and really rich. But I just love the way
Speaker 3: it sounded, and I was like, well, you know what,
Speaker 3: I love to speak in a world where I can
Speaker 3: actually afford that.
Speaker 2: Why not let's manifest that.
Speaker 1: No elucid dreams. You talk about your significant other leaving
Speaker 1: things behind.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that was That was a fun record with Maseego
Speaker 14: after a breakup. Why do you think that the topic
Speaker 14: is taboo?
Speaker 3: I don't really consider it taboo necessarily, but I think
Speaker 3: it's just like it's just funny because for me, I
Speaker 3: was living with my ex for like a couple of years,
Speaker 3: so she just had like a closet filled with clothes
Speaker 3: at my crib and it had been like a year
Speaker 3: and a half since we were broken up. Uh, So
Speaker 3: we were in the studio talking about different things.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: The guitarist and producer on that song Freaky Rob his
Speaker 3: girl left a flat screen at the house that he
Speaker 3: had to use to watch Netflix. He was like, man,
Speaker 3: when is she gonna take this flat screen? And uh,
Speaker 3: you know, Masago also had a similar situation like that
Speaker 3: at his crib with the couch. So we were all
Speaker 3: just kind of using all of our different experiences putting
Speaker 3: it into a song and you know, just locking it in.
Speaker 4: It's different when it's closed.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you clear you cleared out the class Yeah, definitely
Speaker 3: clears out the h Yeah, clear.
Speaker 2: Out the closet.
Speaker 16: Did you move out of the apartment or you just
Speaker 16: cleared out the closing.
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm still at the crib, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: still at the crib.
Speaker 3: You know, there's definitely a certain interior design choices I'm
Speaker 3: gonna switch up, so but it's like real reason Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 15: The album is out right now. Make sure you pick
Speaker 15: it up. And we appreciate you.
Speaker 2: For joining us. Thank you so much for having me man,
Speaker 2: it's a big opportunity. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: They show them and you get a positive note down.
Speaker 14: A positive noteice simply this, I swear because we were
Speaker 14: talking about this earlier, about not being able to say no.
Speaker 14: We were talking about a glorilla when the girl walked
Speaker 14: up to her asking her for money, you know, for
Speaker 14: her tuition. Nothing has caused more problems for me and
Speaker 14: my life than my inability to say no or turn
Speaker 14: people down. Soft and empathetic nature cost you a lot.
Speaker 14: Remember that and know is a complete sentence. Have a
Speaker 14: blessed date?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Now I like that.
Speaker 10: When drive a queen's bone for that? Because this man
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