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Speaker 1: Djess, Hilenio, Charlotte mae'stening to the back.

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Speaker 2: Plus thank y'all for bere like coach, are leaders got family.

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Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club is where people get the information on

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Speaker 3: the topics, on the artists and everything like that.

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Speaker 2: I'm running like that.

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Speaker 4: You guys went nice.

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Speaker 2: Everybody got me all nervous like you guys. Let's not

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Speaker 2: go Yeah, you locked into the world's most dangerous wanting show.

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Speaker 1: If you want to Breakfast Club and we're gonna bring

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Speaker 1: it one hundred and twenty minders want not come up here?

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Speaker 3: This is what I'll do this that's right, Get up

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Speaker 3: about the bids and listen to the greatest show on Earth.

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Speaker 5: Ray right, Ray Yo.

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Speaker 2: Charlomagne Davy, what up are we losing?

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Speaker 6: This is your time to get it off your chest.

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Speaker 2: I got an indoor pool, outdoor pool.

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Speaker 6: We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Get on the phone right now. He'll tell you what

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 5: We live.

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Speaker 2: Hello. Who's this?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This man?

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Speaker 7: Man?

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Speaker 8: How y'all doing?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Ben?

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Speaker 2: Getting off your chest? Ben uh man?

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Speaker 7: I just want to first of all, good morning Jess,

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Speaker 7: Good morning, charlat Man.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, he pe all right, uh firy thing.

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Speaker 9: I just want to get this.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say. I can't say this to my girl,

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Speaker 7: so I'm gonna just say it to y'all.

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Speaker 8: I hate my girl.

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Speaker 7: Dogs.

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Speaker 10: Okay.

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Speaker 2: What kind of dogs are they?

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Speaker 11: That she got?

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Speaker 7: Some kind of little poodle dog and American pit?

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Speaker 9: Okay, I am a dog guy.

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Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 9: I love dogs.

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Speaker 7: I just didn't grow up with dogs in my house. Okay,

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Speaker 7: but he's dog about to be crazy.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how.

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Speaker 7: Okay to all the dog people out there, I don't

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Speaker 7: know how y'all dealing with dogs running all around y'all

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Speaker 7: house and dog here everywhere, but just about to make

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Speaker 7: me say, hey, I can't do it.

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Speaker 8: No more.

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Speaker 2: Cleaning up, bro, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I just refused, like, I don't even.

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Speaker 6: Walk these dogs.

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Speaker 2: You'll got kids.

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Speaker 7: I don't do nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lord, damn, he's about to walk away, because what

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Speaker 2: are they doing to you?

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Speaker 11: Man?

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Speaker 7: Listen, the dogs ain't doing nothing. They just they just

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Speaker 7: stupid dogs. And I hate dogs everywhere.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't like going to work with dog here all

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Speaker 7: over me. Okay, that's crazy. We look. These dogs don't

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Speaker 7: even be in my car. And I got dog here

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Speaker 7: in my car.

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Speaker 4: It's sound vacuum in my.

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Speaker 7: Car, and my all lady with every day because I'm

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Speaker 7: thinking of these dogs.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like y'all need more space, like more and

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Speaker 1: more space than when your residents.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he got a nice size house.

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Speaker 7: Ain't no space.

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Speaker 12: You need to getting ready to eat.

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Speaker 2: Damn to make one of them come up missing? You

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Speaker 2: don't do that.

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Speaker 7: Listen, this is what made me call this morning. I

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Speaker 9: Every morning those all the way to work, just like

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Speaker 9: I'm doing now. But I had a dream about poisoning

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Speaker 9: them dolls last night. I said, boy, I might need

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Speaker 9: to talk. I might need to call charl Many talk

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Speaker 9: to them. But this is something going on with the missal.

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Speaker 1: Having dreams about Did you and your wife have a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we had to do a bigger argument. I ain't

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Speaker 7: trying to go ahead no more.

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Speaker 13: So why don't you buy one of them kid gate?

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Speaker 13: You know the little kitty gates. But but I want

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Speaker 7: That what, Charlotte?

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Speaker 8: I don't want dogs? Yeah, look.

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Speaker 4: All right, man, so let me let me walk out.

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you something.

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Speaker 1: Dog, when you heard that there was when you heard

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Speaker 1: the lie that they was eating catching dogs in Ohio?

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Speaker 2: Did you did you? Did you smile a little bit?

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Speaker 4: Did you think about taking a little trip a little bit?

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Speaker 2: You have a good one, man, I have a good one.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I have a good one.

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Speaker 2: Man, Get it off your chest. Eight hundred five five

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Speaker 2: one on five one. Did you grow you grow with dogs?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 10: I didn't grove with dogs, but I have those now,

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Speaker 10: Charlomagne A couple not like that though.

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Speaker 14: I had a couple of rock walls when I was young.

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Speaker 14: I had a bad experience with somebody poisoned my dogs.

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Speaker 14: Somebody got tired of my Damn.

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Speaker 1: I had two rod walls named band Terror, and somebody

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Speaker 1: got tired of Terror and they poisoned the neighb with

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Speaker 1: poison them. I can't prove it that they would poison them,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like they would poison them. Uh No,

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Speaker 1: which one died? One of them died because they got poisoned.

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Speaker 1: One of them got picked up by the dog people

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Speaker 13: Jesus Christ. Yeah, I had shepherds all my life. My

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Speaker 13: dad didn't believe in having a dog as a petty.

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Speaker 13: If you had a dog, the dog need to have

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Speaker 13: a job. Oh wow, so you got to protect the

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Speaker 13: house again.

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Speaker 2: That different.

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Speaker 13: You ain't got no pety. You gotta have a job.

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Speaker 13: You're gonna protect this house. If now we don't want

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Speaker 13: a little dog, now we want a dog.

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Speaker 2: I want a dog now my.

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Speaker 4: Wife won't let me get one. Yep, I want to

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Speaker 4: stop African boar board.

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Speaker 13: Well, get it off your chest eight hundred and five

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Speaker 13: eight five one oh five one. If you need to

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Speaker 13: vet hit us up now it's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling what you're doing.

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Speaker 6: If this is your time to get it off your chest,

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Speaker 6: whether you're mad or blessed eight hundred five five one.

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Speaker 6: We want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Hello? Who's this.

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Speaker 8: Theme from the eight o three leave when I was

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Speaker 8: a late night booty call doing the Walk of shame

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Speaker 8: aka to ride a shame home.

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Speaker 2: So you stak right now?

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Speaker 5: No boy ooh, that got a.

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Speaker 8: Good point, you know what? But actually I don't because

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Speaker 8: I don't eat meat and I don't really have an

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Speaker 8: older light that to be honest, that.

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Speaker 4: That asparagus stink when you pee? Now, don't act like that.

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Speaker 2: But was it a good night?

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Speaker 7: At lea?

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Speaker 8: It was a good night.

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Speaker 5: But check this out before we get into my good night.

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Speaker 5: Go to my TikTok page.

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Speaker 8: Not you, but y'all, five me listeners.

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Speaker 5: Coffee's content k A s k A F I s

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Speaker 5: k O is T E n T like get back

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Speaker 5: to the late night do the card? What's up?

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Speaker 2: I just asked if you enjoyed yourself?

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Speaker 6: That's all?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I always do though, Okay, this is a regular book,

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Speaker 1: this is something new, or this is a regular book.

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Speaker 8: No, it's a regular booe. And next, I was a

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Speaker 8: virgin until I met him, and then I had two

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Speaker 8: kids already, But I was a burgeon until I met him,

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Speaker 8: because I never knew did you say any I knew?

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Speaker 10: Again?

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Speaker 8: Was missing out?

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Speaker 5: All I never knew?

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Speaker 14: Jesus well, oh, she said she was a virgin till

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Speaker 14: she met Oh, because you had two kids, but you

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Speaker 8: I kind of didn't have an art. I just didn't.

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Speaker 15: Okay, while I'm.

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Speaker 8: Late night creeping on the weekday and I got to

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Speaker 8: be the work in the hour, and still I got

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Speaker 8: this son hold myself like thirty one and.

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Speaker 4: My daughter ten how far what you're driving from? Where

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Speaker 4: your booty call at role?

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Speaker 8: You a fastir road?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do road.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the fab round ain't too far.

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Speaker 8: It ain't too far. It's like a tap on the

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Speaker 2: Get your ass back home. You gotta be working a

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Speaker 8: Right right the morning, Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Get home in time to take a shower, brush your

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Speaker 1: teeth before you kiss that ten year old two.

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Speaker 4: You're going to smelling like.

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Speaker 2: But you don't.

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Speaker 5: Stop playing with me. I told you I don't have

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Speaker 8: I don't eat me family right, Thank.

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Speaker 4: You everybody that people, people that's thinking up. We don't

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Speaker 4: know what you do.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yo, get it off your chest.

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Speaker 13: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. If

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Speaker 13: you need to ben hit us up now. It's the

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Speaker 13: Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Morning.

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Speaker 13: Everybody is e J N V jess hilarious, Charlamagne the

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Speaker 13: guy we are the Breakfast Club just is out today.

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Speaker 2: Lauren's holding it down.

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Speaker 13: And of course we got our niece Nola Hill, and

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Speaker 13: we got a special guest in the building. Brother Teddy swims, Hang,

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Speaker 13: I'm so honored me here man, I'm fine man, happy

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Speaker 13: to have you.

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Speaker 2: I really really excited, dude.

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Speaker 11: We we did our album release party last night though,

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Speaker 11: so uh, you know again, excuse my drinking for.

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Speaker 2: You don't drinking early in the morning. You see that

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Speaker 2: one over.

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Speaker 16: Let's hear all.

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Speaker 7: The way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have one other way. Absolutely, Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: drinking with a pregnant man? Is there?

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Speaker 4: Tell us about yourself, teddy, man, that's so loaded.

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Speaker 11: I'm from Georgia, from from about thirty minutes east of

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Speaker 11: Atlanta and Conyers, Georgia, Rockdale County, and you know, like

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Speaker 11: singing songs and I'm a good, good, good boy.

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Speaker 4: It was a very soulful, soulful voice. Did you grow

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Speaker 4: up in the church.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so my granddad was a Pentecostal pastor. I didn't

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Speaker 11: grow up singing in the church a lot, but I

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Speaker 11: you know, I definitely grew up with fire and brimstone

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Speaker 11: for sure.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: With the fear of God. Yeah you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're afraid to sind? Oh no, no, not not these days.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but I'm just talking about like back in

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Speaker 2: the day was like a very yeah.

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Speaker 11: Now there's a you know, even as we're getting ready

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Speaker 15: You know, Teddy Swims is here, Charlamagne.

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Speaker 6: Sure?

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Speaker 14: I Love Not Your Man is a very vulnerable record

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Speaker 11: Hell yeah, man, I think it was important to start

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Speaker 2: I don't don't I don't want to. I don't want

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Speaker 11: think you would think if you.

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Speaker 2: Had a if you had a passion.

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Speaker 11: I'll just make it like this, you had a passion

455
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Speaker 11: in your life, and you had somebody in your life

456
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Speaker 11: that says you could quit your job and just focus

457
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Speaker 11: on your passion.

458
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Speaker 2: I'll take care of the rest.

459
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Speaker 11: You got it, and you don't do anything with your life,

460
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Speaker 11: but you just eat Zaggs all day and lay around

461
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Speaker 11: and blame somebody for your shortcomings when you have the

462
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Speaker 11: opportunity to follow your dream and somebody that would support

463
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Speaker 11: you with your dreams, and you'd be like so surprised

464
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Speaker 11: to see if somebody had the opportunity to follow their

465
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Speaker 11: dreams and they had everything taken care of. How many

466
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Speaker 11: people would be like, if everything's taken care of, I'm

467
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Speaker 11: going to do it anymore.

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Speaker 2: And you can't.

469
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Speaker 11: You can't put ambition and drive into somebody.

470
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Speaker 2: You can't heal.

471
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Speaker 11: Nobody, you can't save nobody. And I've started to go

472
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Speaker 11: on that tangent.

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Speaker 1: But from that situation, do you feel like you no

474
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Speaker 1: longer inable because it's like, though you want to.

475
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Speaker 18: Do something out of love to better somebody, sometimes it's

476
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Speaker 18: to their own detriment.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think I think, yeah, I think it's it

478
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Speaker 11: was an enabling at the end of the day. You know,

479
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Speaker 11: I was doing something to help someone become but I

480
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Speaker 11: think at the end of the day, I was enabling

481
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Speaker 11: somebody to do nothing, and if that was inside of them,

482
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Speaker 11: I was enabling that.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's a common pattern, you know.

484
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Speaker 11: But yes, I'm trying to heal and learn to see

485
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Speaker 11: somebody for who they are and not who I want

486
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Speaker 11: them to be or think they should be.

487
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Speaker 2: I can tell you got a big heart, but people

488
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Speaker 2: will take advantage of hell.

489
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I'm also grateful to be I don't want

490
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Speaker 11: to say I'm grateful be taking manage that.

491
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Speaker 2: I'm grateful to be available.

492
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Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna use you, but don't let people miss use

493
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Speaker 4: a man.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I have a last question for you.

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Speaker 18: I was reading this interview you talked about because your

496
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Speaker 18: girlfriend's black, and you talked about like when you guys

497
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Speaker 18: are in the South, you get like looks from people

498
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Speaker 18: and like it bothers you because love should be loved.

499
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Speaker 18: But you're about to bring a baby into the world.

500
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Speaker 18: You're so positive, she seems so amazing, but the world

501
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Speaker 18: is not always like that. Like, how do you defeat

502
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Speaker 18: that because you're really a really nice person, Like it

503
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Speaker 18: breaks my heart.

504
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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I hate how much she's go through.

505
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Speaker 11: So her dad's black and her mom's white. So she

506
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Speaker 11: tells me about stuff all the time, about like, you know,

507
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Speaker 11: how she felt not wide enough or not blacking up,

508
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Speaker 11: and how much her world in her life has been

509
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Speaker 11: such a I guess, like a juxtaposition in both sides,

510
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Speaker 11: you know, never feeling like she wasn't quite accepted by

511
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Speaker 11: either side, you know.

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Speaker 2: And so there is not a story.

513
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Speaker 11: I won't I won't tell you her story because she's

514
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Speaker 11: better saying it than I. Well, I'll never tell you

515
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Speaker 11: her story. But I see how like how beautiful she is,

516
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Speaker 11: and how I guess how like elegant she navigates being

517
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Speaker 11: who she is. She's the most incredible human being I've

518
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Speaker 11: ever met, man to talk to.

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Speaker 14: I love that Johnson and White, the Song of Money Loan. Yes, sir,

520
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 14: that title is a little on the those, don't you think, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11: I think I think that the point of it was

522
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Speaker 11: kind of to the core of love in itself is

523
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Speaker 11: black and white, Like it's a it's a black and

524
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Speaker 11: white issue.

525
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Speaker 2: Love is love and not love is not love and loving.

526
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Speaker 11: Whether it's a person of a different color, shape, size, sexuality,

527
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Speaker 11: same sex, whatever it is. I think that the thing

528
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Speaker 11: was trying to say that we no matter what, we

529
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Speaker 11: could come from different worlds. It's it's a true I

530
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Speaker 11: guess wrote me on and Juliette story. You know kind

531
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Speaker 11: of is the basis of it is that like you know,

532
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Speaker 11: we we come from different places, we come from different cultures,

533
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Speaker 11: we have different things. But when you're in love, man,

534
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 11: love is love and and that should be enough. And

535
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Speaker 11: that's really they ain't nothing great about that, man, That's

536
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Speaker 11: just love.

537
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Speaker 2: You know, love is love.

538
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Speaker 1: You know, I love that record and it's a good

539
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Speaker 1: stamp because you know, money Long recently went viral for

540
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Speaker 1: saying she's not writing soulful songs for white artists.

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Speaker 4: Did you see that?

542
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Speaker 2: I did not? Oh I'm glad I got that one

543
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Speaker 2: before she said exactly when did she do that song?

544
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Speaker 7: Was that long?

545
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Speaker 2: Did you do that a while ago? Yeah?

546
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Speaker 6: We did it.

547
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Speaker 11: It's had to be a few months ago now. But

548
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Speaker 11: diffriend Jeff Kitty and Mickey Echo is a part of

549
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Speaker 11: it with us too, and we we like started working

550
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Speaker 11: on it. And I remember Jeff Kitty as has been

551
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Speaker 11: working with Money for long years and years and he's like, man,

552
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Speaker 11: should we see if Morney wants to do this song

553
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Speaker 11: with us? And I was like, I mean, yeah, that's

554
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Speaker 11: like that. We'd kind of like to do a record

555
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Speaker 11: like this. We would kind of need that, you know.

556
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Speaker 11: I would be so stoked that she'd be willing to

557
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Speaker 11: because I knew what I kind of wanted to say.

558
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Speaker 11: But also I can't say that, you know, without having

559
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Speaker 11: money helped me say that, you know, but also without

560
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Speaker 11: like relying too much, you know, I think I needed

561
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Speaker 11: to We needed to say that together. And so I'm

562
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Speaker 11: just grateful she took that opportunity to say, I see

563
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Speaker 11: what you're trying to say. I have you say that,

564
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Speaker 11: you know, and and said it with me, And I

565
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Speaker 11: think I'm so grateful for her because money is just allegend.

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Speaker 2: Man, what a bad bad ass man.

567
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Speaker 13: Now, you also said you wanted to meet one of

568
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Speaker 13: your musical idols, were Stevie Wonder?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you ever get an opportunity?

570
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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, we haven't met in person, but yeah, yeah,

571
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Speaker 11: and I got I got a chance to do a

572
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Speaker 11: record with him too. So uh, I think he's gonna

573
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Speaker 11: put out on his next record, I hope. So, I

574
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Speaker 11: hope it's gonna come out. I'm really excited. It's it's

575
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Speaker 11: a good record. It's called Politics Player and uh yeah,

576
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Speaker 11: which is such an honor to be on our Steve

577
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Speaker 11: Wonder record. But yeah, he did FaceTime. I'll tell you that.

578
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Speaker 11: It's so funny. Man, he FaceTime.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

580
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Speaker 11: And here's the thing thing. He is actually blind, y'all.

581
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Speaker 11: This is true life.

582
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Speaker 2: He was blind.

583
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Speaker 11: I'm saying people say it. People, there's a conspiracy that

584
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Speaker 11: he's not.

585
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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 11: Look, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I was on

587
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Speaker 11: the phone with this. I was facetiming this man and

588
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Speaker 11: he said, he turned this. He had put the camera around.

589
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Speaker 11: He said, this is my son over here, and then

590
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Speaker 11: he said I'm over here today. He's pulled it up

591
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Speaker 11: here and he said, and this is my niece. And

592
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Speaker 11: then he had he had phone facing her. And for

593
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Speaker 11: the next ten minutes of the conversation, I'll look as.

594
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Speaker 2: Far as you are. I looked at his niece and

595
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Speaker 2: knock and he was holding he was holding the camera

596
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Speaker 2: like he was holding like I not all. See I

597
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Speaker 2: did not have to hold it.

598
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Speaker 6: She was she was sitting there.

599
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Speaker 2: She was sitting there text on her phone.

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Speaker 11: I didn't have the hard to say, hey, I can't

601
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Speaker 11: see you, but you know, my dumb ass man, my

602
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Speaker 11: numb that's the reason he called me because.

603
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Speaker 2: I was in Tokyo.

604
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Speaker 11: I was in Tokyo and I had found I had

605
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Speaker 11: found my favorite album, all time, best album ever, Songs

606
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Speaker 11: in the Key Live.

607
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Speaker 2: I found a CD of it.

608
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Speaker 11: It was a Tokyo version of it, like the Japanese

609
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Speaker 11: version of it, and my dumb ass taxing him a

610
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Speaker 11: picture of it.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, I get.

612
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Speaker 11: Idiot like he was gonna see it right right, Like

613
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Speaker 11: I just chech that's what I found, Bro, I found, Bro,

614
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Speaker 11: what are you saying? His FaceTime? So I was like,

615
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Speaker 11: my dumb ass too, was like you give a touch.

616
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Speaker 11: He's definitely he didn't see it, Bro, I don't think.

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Speaker 11: I just just to put all those things to rest.

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Speaker 15: And shut down.

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Speaker 16: It's crazy.

620
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Speaker 18: All these years black people have been trying to figure

621
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Speaker 18: this out and you are the one that.

622
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Speaker 16: Solved the problem.

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Speaker 6: I just I just know.

624
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Speaker 2: I was looking at his knees about fifteen minutes. Again.

625
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Speaker 15: Well there you have it, Swim. You appreciate you for

626
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Speaker 15: joining us. It's the breakfast Club.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, It's topic time.

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Speaker 13: Eight hundred and five eight five one five one to

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Speaker 13: join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Mourning.

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Speaker 13: Everybody is thej Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.

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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 13: If you just joining us, we open up the phone

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Speaker 13: lines eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one.

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Speaker 13: We're talking about older men dating these younger women. And

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Speaker 13: when I say younger women, I'm talking about teens or

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Speaker 13: low late or early twenties.

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Speaker 2: I show no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 14: When I'm talking about younger women, I'm talking about these

640
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Speaker 14: guys that are thirty years these people seniors.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 14: Like, I think, when you're fifty some years old and

643
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Speaker 14: you're dating a twenty year old, that's ridiculous to me.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm consistent.

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Speaker 13: I'm talking about teenagers eighteen, nineteen, early twenties. Somebody could

646
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Speaker 13: be thirty two dating a sixty year old And are

647
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Speaker 13: you cool with that? What a thirty five year old

648
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Speaker 13: dating a sixty five.

649
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Speaker 6: Year old man?

650
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Speaker 2: A sixty year old man?

651
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's even more because this man sixty

652
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Speaker 1: plus years old old, but he said thirty thirty at least,

653
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Speaker 1: like yeah.

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Speaker 2: Growing up and that's going to say so it's not

655
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Speaker 2: the difference we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at her a little crazy, like, damn, what

657
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Speaker 4: you want with that old ass man? He must be rich.

658
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's let's ask Jess. Jess, you said you

659
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Speaker 2: dated a forty year old man.

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Speaker 15: You were at age I was twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Why yeah? Money? Yeah, he did.

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Speaker 9: Make about the line.

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Speaker 19: I was really about to say, yeah, he had money,

664
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Speaker 19: and I always had like a little old solo or whatever,

665
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Speaker 19: you know what I mean. And I met him at

666
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Speaker 19: the car dealership and no, ain't buy me no car,

667
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Speaker 19: but he helped me with the down period.

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Speaker 12: That's why.

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Speaker 19: He helped me with the down pay much. And I

670
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Speaker 19: think the down pay I was getting like a little Honda.

671
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Speaker 19: It might have been like five thousand or something. But

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Speaker 19: I act like I ain't have it all, and he

673
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Speaker 19: was like, you know, you know, and how give you?

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Speaker 19: He gave me like three thousand dollars.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, for like six or seven months. It really wasn't long.

676
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: But I broke it off.

677
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 19: Not even I broke it off because you you get

678
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 19: and like relationships with older guys as a young woman,

679
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 19: because you think, oh this is gonna help me grow up,

680
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 19: or I'm doing something that ain't nobody else doing I'm

681
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 19: in you know, and he's very childish.

682
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 10: She was childish.

683
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 19: You you automatically just think because you did an older

684
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 19: guy that they're gonna have it all together.

685
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 10: They're wise, you know.

686
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: They they can teach you.

687
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 13: Things, try to do those things when you're like, nah,

688
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 13: I know what I'm doing and do this. So he

689
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 13: try to be like, treat you like a child or no.

690
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 19: Yeah, until he realized that he couldn't do that, and

691
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 19: then that made him. That made me even more attractive

692
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 19: to him, Like he liked that. It's okay, so you're

693
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 19: not a young dummy.

694
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 2: You smart.

695
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 19: Now let me show you how dumb I am. It

696
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 19: was just weird, Like I was like, oh no, I

697
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 19: gotta no, I can't. Like he was very childish and stuff.

698
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 19: He didn't know how to have sex, he didn't know how.

699
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: To ghat the box.

700
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 10: I was like, oh my god, you're too old and

701
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 10: I know these things. And I started dating back in

702
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 10: my age.

703
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 4: Break probably gonna taste the way they used to.

704
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: The ones from my area taste a whole lot different, right.

705
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 14: I'm gonna be I just think it's corny. There's no

706
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 14: way you should be dating a woman who was in

707
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 14: somebody's womb when you was thirty.

708
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, imagine imagine being thirty years old, Yeah, standing

709
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: over a crib with your out like that.

710
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: That just looks crazy. That that sounds that's yeah, how

711
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: you should look at it? How you fifty?

712
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: If you fifty plus years old dating a twenty year old,

713
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: that makes no sense to me.

714
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 14: I don't know why men have not grown out of that.

715
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 14: I love discipline, I love stability, I love having a family.

716
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: When you if you.

717
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: Fifty plus years old, you should be kicked up. You

718
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: have your feet kicked up at home. You got your

719
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: wife over here, you got your kids over here. Why

720
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: are you chasing these other I.

721
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 10: Disagree with that standing over the crib, which sound like that?

722
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 10: Now listen.

723
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 19: The only reason why, the only way I would think

724
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 19: about it like that is if way around the way,

725
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 19: and you've seen this girl grow up and you waited

726
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 19: for her to get a.

727
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 10: Certain age like nineteen eighteen something like that to date.

728
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: Her, then I get that notion of it.

729
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 19: But to these if you're just an older man and

730
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 19: you see a younger woman, younger looking woman, you know whatever,

731
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 19: it's like, all right, they are attracted to young women,

732
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 19: you know, but that's different. I'm not about to think

733
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 19: about it as I'm standing over a damn crib with

734
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 19: my watch this little girl grow.

735
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: I will not jump, I.

736
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 6: Won't say this.

737
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 13: Everybody's not made for marriage, right. He was married and

738
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 13: didn't enjoy it, so he wants to be a bachelor.

739
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 13: And I'm not mad at that. But I look at

740
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 13: it a little different, Charlamage. You got four daughters. I

741
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 13: got four daughters. I don't want my twenty one, nineteen

742
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 13: twenty two to twenty three year old daughter dating a

743
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 13: fifty four year old man. There's there's nothing in common.

744
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 13: The only thing I feel like you dating that young

745
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 13: is because you want to control. That's that's what that's

746
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 13: my mentality. But there's nothing, you know, I don't see

747
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 13: nothing wrong with it. If he want to be a bachelor,

748
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 13: he could be a basket. Maybe he's just not made.

749
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 19: Somebody your age, go get you a nice forty something

750
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 19: and exactly what you said you want to control, because

751
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 19: that guy at that dealership gave me three thousand dollars

752
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 19: because he just knew she greened now going to control her,

753
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 19: and did not.

754
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: He didn't know. He's dealing with Jesse Baltrom.

755
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: Go find somebody that can help you regulate your cholesterol.

756
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: Go find somebody that they dealing with their blood pressure. Really,

757
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: go find somebody that can recognize the signs.

758
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: Of I gotta go get a colic colons. But you

759
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: don't know what that is those?

760
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 6: You know what I mean? Who is?

761
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: Who is Calvin? Who's hello?

762
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 6: Who's this?

763
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 8: Hey? This is key?

764
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 20: How y'all doing?

765
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: I'm good?

766
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 5: Key?

767
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 6: How old are you?

768
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: Key?

769
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: No?

770
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: Hold on it, says key, was seventeen dating a forty

771
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,239
Speaker 2: year old man.

772
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 20: Come on, it was forty something, a little bit older

773
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 20: than forty.

774
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: And y'all got married. Break that down.

775
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 20: Yeah, we end up getting married. We had three beautiful

776
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 20: children together. We are no longer together.

777
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: Because he dead.

778
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 10: Oh my god, is he dead?

779
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 20: No, he's still he's almost sixty one, still dating younger women.

780
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: What state of y'all in that that was legal?

781
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 11: Huh?

782
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: What state of y'all in that that was legal?

783
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 20: It wasn't Virginia.

784
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: But you said y'all got married when they got married,

785
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: probably when she get married.

786
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 20: Until I was like twenty. Oh, dug right, So long

787
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 20: story short, it was.

788
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 9: It was very hard.

789
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 20: My twenty my early twenties twenties was very hard, very displessing.

790
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 20: He was very controlling, was always gone out doing what

791
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 20: he wanted to do while was at home taking care

792
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 20: of our kids.

793
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 8: It was it was really hard.

794
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 20: It was something that I would not recommend any young

795
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 20: woman ever.

796
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: Was he very controlling?

797
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 7: He was.

798
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 20: It was a domestic balance situation. I definitely finally got

799
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 20: the courage to leave because I didn't want my children

800
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 20: to keep on, you know, seeing that I don't didn't

801
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 20: want them to think that that's normal. And then in

802
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 20: fact that our oldest son, he's sixteen, now I had

803
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 20: to put him in therapy because you know, it just

804
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 20: it was just horrible.

805
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, thank god that.

806
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 20: I had to pray my way out of that situation

807
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 20: because I was really in.

808
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 8: Love with him.

809
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 15: Where was your father at at this time? Was your

810
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 15: dad around?

811
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 8: So yeah, let me let me.

812
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 20: Protect my parents. My parents are both retired army and

813
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 20: they were both overseas fighting the war and Iraq. So

814
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 20: I was in vi Jinga with my with my grandmother.

815
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 20: I was at work when I met him, so it's

816
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 20: not like my grandma just let me do it ever work,

817
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 20: you know, he took that opportunity to you know. Yeah,

818
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 20: and he used to come pick me up from hool

819
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 20: and everything like Jesus high school, you know, signed out.

820
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 10: So yeah, definitely old enough to sign your out.

821
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: That's wow.

822
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: Crazy.

823
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 19: But but thank you for sharing your story that you're

824
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 19: still hear and that you are out of that situation.

825
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely.

826
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 20: I didn't want my kids to think.

827
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 15: That I was normal, So yeah, thank you.

828
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Key.

829
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 20: And he's a horrible father, so.

830
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: That means he a horrible grandfather too.

831
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 20: Yeah, he is people, all right.

832
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 14: The moral of the story is, I know y'all like

833
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 14: to be out here bragging about smashing these young girls,

834
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 14: but that's not a flex to me. You know what

835
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 14: I'm saying, You fifty four years old, in your fifties,

836
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 14: you should be later with your wife and kids, or

837
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 14: at least be with women that's close to your age.

838
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: Like that's that's me, yeah, you know, and I'm consistent

839
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 4: with that.

840
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: I said that when Diddy was out here with young

841
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: Miami and you told LEONARDA, I don't know what y'all

842
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: seeing these young girls.

843
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: I need somebody that can know at least all at

844
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: least six members of.

845
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: Wu Tang six. It's a six of them. Yoh godess

846
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: I never told you this story about how years ago.

847
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 14: I'm not gonna say his name, but there was a

848
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 14: record rep and he was talking to me about how man.

849
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 14: I tried to talk to one of these young girls

850
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 14: and she was real smart, and I said to her,

851
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 14: you a regular doogie Houses?

852
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: And she was like, who is doogie houses? Just don't

853
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: know exactly? You know who don't know? No, okay, exactly see.

854
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: Regular doogie houses?

855
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 10: And now tell me what's the dog house.

856
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 4: Doogie House was a hit sitcom back in the day

857
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: that Neil Patrick Harris.

858
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 16: My grandma said, I know, Neil Patrick, you got the.

859
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: Ladist coming on you. See what I'm saying.

860
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 13: I would tell everybody outter that thinking about it, Just

861
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 13: imagine when you have daughters. Would you want your daughters

862
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 13: to date a fifty four year old man at the.

863
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 2: Age of nine.

864
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Imagine being thirty button neckad standing over somebody's crib.

865
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: That's what you should be thinking about when you.

866
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: Were here ready to holler these twenty some year old

867
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: girls when you fifty plus cut it out.

868
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 13: If you just joined us this context, this context, Yeah,

869
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 13: it's the breakfast club in the morning, the Breakfast Club.

870
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: One of everybody is team was just hilarious, charlamage to God.

871
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. La La Rosa is here

872
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: with us, and we got some special guests in the

873
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 2: boland this morning.

874
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: The host of the new show Friday Night Vibes on

875
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: TV as the new host Friday Night Vibes on TVs.

876
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: Dina Parker Kevin on.

877
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: I walked that up because you know, keV didn't talk

878
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: about that last time he was here. And I saw

879
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: Nina in Chance and Nina was like. Nina was like,

880
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: I don't know why he was up there and did

881
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: not mention that we're in a new home.

882
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: Friday Night may be having tunelevision, so you got all

883
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: these other projects he was. I watched the interview and

884
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: I was so excited, like, I can't wait till he

885
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: mentions Friday Night VIX because we were in the middle

886
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: of filming Friday Night Vibes.

887
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: Man Friday Night Friday Night Vibes, and I had just.

888
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: Did Taron Hall. I was like, Keith, I mentioned you

889
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: and shouted you out. They showed your picture on the back.

890
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: I'm being ghastling, I said at first, So it means

891
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: it's true, baby, that's just who you are.

892
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 13: Because you know one of your best friends was up

893
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 13: here right like just right here, and when we told

894
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 13: him that you were coming, he was like, he didn't

895
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 13: even tell me he was here in New York.

896
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 2: He was like, we were playing pool and friendship.

897
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 10: We saw Tony just in the grind.

898
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 6: I was like, what are you doing?

899
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: Tony didn't tell me he was doing the breakfast club.

900
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: But men don't share details like that, Like if it

901
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: would have been me and my homegirl, we would have

902
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: been like at the hotel having breakfast before we came over.

903
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: I feel like, y'all just see each other when you

904
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: see Tony had a show in New York. I didn't

905
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: know that I got tickets to a show, surprising. I

906
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: was gonna pull up right ticket because always buy.

907
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't even play that. I'm not trying to hear it.

908
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: Don't hear me because people you ain't even cool, Like

909
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: what's up on the tickets? Kevo stays dot com. It's

910
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: what I'm telling them. My parents buy tickets to my show, and.

911
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 2: I want to support, but then they want you to

912
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: give up the ticket. Yeah, that ain't support parents. Buy

913
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 2: tickets to your parents.

914
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: Refuse to get free tickets. They're like, I believe in

915
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: you and what you're doing. I'll go get tickets.

916
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 18: They won't make sure they got loan you no money

917
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 18: ever again.

918
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: No, well, yes, you keep doing good. You know what

919
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I need you to make it.

920
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: You know they're not just testing you just to see

921
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 4: if you're gonna say no, no, no, y'all have done enough.

922
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: I got you.

923
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 12: No, they buy them, they support for the next show.

924
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 12: My friends, I don't mind these people.

925
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

926
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: We ain't got a relationship. You're trying to get the

927
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: free tickets, Manna, Okay, it's like a hookup. When I

928
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: work in Popeye's, I give my friends a hook up.

929
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Not everybody, some of the biscuits.

930
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: If you see the price, that's true.

931
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 4: How did this come together?

932
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? We actually chem tested together. Kevin

933
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: and I knew each other only on social media, like

934
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: I was a fan of his work and we had

935
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: never met, so we would, you know, exchange on social media.

936
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: And then you know the show used to be hosted

937
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: by Tiffany Hattis and do y'all cold. They were revamping

938
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: it and so they did like a big casting call

939
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: so when we got called and sometimes when you get

940
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: to a certain level, you're like, oh, I still got

941
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: a kip test. Yeah, I was like, So we did

942
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: the kym test and it was it was actually like

943
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: a family reunion. It was about twenty about what befteen women,

944
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: fifteen men. Yeah, and we were kim testing with our friends.

945
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: So it was like a big day. We got in trouble.

946
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: It took all day long.

947
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like you you spend five minutes with

948
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: this person and okay, y'all done and this person and

949
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: when Nina and I went, it was like this sounds cliche,

950
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: but I was like, I forgot we were even auditioning.

951
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: We were just chopping it up and they stopped us.

952
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: We were like, okay, cool. I was like this, we

953
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: got this. Like there's sometimes I feel like you get

954
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: that little voice you know when you're when you're in

955
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: this industry, you just know when something that is magic.

956
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: And we were sitting next to each other and it

957
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: was so easy with him. And I've had a lot

958
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: of co hosts over the years, and keV is by

959
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: far like the easiest person I've ever worked with.

960
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 4: Oh that's an ultimate compliment.

961
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: By the way, it's not just to him as to

962
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: his wife Melissa, right, because his wife is he knows

963
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: how to there is a there's a dance, as you

964
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: guys know. And then when you have like a co

965
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: host who knows how to communicate in a healthy way

966
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: with a woman, it's just like even like he'll be

967
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 2: like do you need to sit? I'm like what because

968
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: I'm used to people being like get off the way,

969
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: and it's just he's very kind. So it just makes

970
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: it so easy to work with. Nina.

971
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 14: Go ahead, I tell you that all the time. When

972
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 14: somebody says you're easy to work with, that's beautiful. When

973
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 14: somebody says you're a pleasure to work with, you always work.

974
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's so long. The work is hard.

975
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: So talent is evenly distributed, you know in La New York,

976
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: but good people to work with is not so much.

977
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: And then it's already stressedful you got early call times

978
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. If you're also a jerk on

979
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: top of that, it's like, bro, I don't even want

980
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: to do it.

981
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 2: It's life be lifing, as you know, so it's like

982
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: it's hard to get on and have to like turn

983
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 2: all of that off. You know in filming. So when

984
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: you have somebody that's like keV is really like my

985
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: real life brother, you know, I really love him. I

986
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: love his wife like, we have dinners like and so

987
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: it's just it doesn't it truly doesn't feel like work.

988
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: So we just be cutting up, and you know, this

989
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: show really allowed me to be funny and like really

990
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: tap into cause I feel like I've done so much

991
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: formal journalism. This was like a different This was more vulnerable,

992
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: and keV is more of my coach sometimes where he's

993
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: like just say it, like, you know, cause I'm so

994
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: trained that sometimes it's a little bit more stiff, so

995
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: he's like, just say it. They ain't gonna care.

996
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we need to helped me too, because I

997
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: had never done official TV, never worked off a prompt before.

998
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: So the first day I was like, dang man, like

999
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure and you can't really mess up.

1000
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: It's time for you to do your job right. And

1001
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, it's all good. There's how you

1002
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: doing us run through it once and Nina, man, let

1003
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: me tell you what she big sis for real, because

1004
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: when I don't want to do stuff, she'd.

1005
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: Be like, ah, we ain't doing that, y'all. We are

1006
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: doing this.

1007
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: Like you can tell she's been in the game for

1008
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: a long time, never rude or anything like that, but

1009
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: she she knows how to assert herself and people respect

1010
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: her for that.

1011
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: And I'm more of like, I never done this, so

1012
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: whatever y'all say is cool. But also when you've done

1013
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 2: it a long time, you know when people are patty time,

1014
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: like you're like, we don't need we got this. We

1015
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 2: can just roll through this, like y'all ain't got a

1016
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 2: babys Like, we're gonna come in, we gonna knock this out,

1017
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: and we're gonna go home. Everybody gonna get home on time, y'all,

1018
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: hill over time stop.

1019
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: Is hard for you, keV being on a production that

1020
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: you don't control, no low key, Actually it's free because someone,

1021
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, there's a certain amount of stress when

1022
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: you control it, Like the talent is just one aspect.

1023
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: Then you got to worry about the budget and the controlling,

1024
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: the editing, the delivery day. That vibes brother, When it's

1025
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: over all right, y'all, and it's it is, it is

1026
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: a welcome reprieve from having a duel. I don't want

1027
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: to have to worry about post edit deliveries, time code

1028
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, s and p leave it at the door coffee? Yes,

1029
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 1: what time is lunch?

1030
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: Okay? Perfect, see you all tomorrow. Just come on time.

1031
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 8: Do my job.

1032
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: Chopping up with Nina, I knew we was cool. Need

1033
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: to let me her she was getting braided down, like

1034
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: y'all real friends, man, you let me see the the breakdown.

1035
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: No, That's why I think that camaraderie and chemistry from

1036
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: the audition through the show, it just carries on throughout.

1037
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: And then that's why the show feels so natural. Our

1038
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: guests come on, they feel really natural with us, you

1039
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1040
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: So, and it doubled the ratings. So we did the

1041
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: first season, we only had like twelve episodes, so it

1042
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: was just the first Friday of every month, which right now,

1043
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: you know, TV is very difficult. They actually doubled our

1044
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: episode order because they were saying that our interviews with

1045
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: each other and with our guests were spiking over the movies. Yeah,

1046
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: so I mean listening to get a double order during

1047
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: this time, we feel very blessed.

1048
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 13: Were still picking it with Nina, Parker and keV on

1049
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 13: stage the new show Friday Night vibes is on TVs Lauren.

1050
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 18: I was going to ask you, Nina, because for us

1051
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 18: in the journalism where you talk about brooking and hard journalism,

1052
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 18: I know you come from TMZ. Your career and how

1053
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 18: you've been able to diversify your resume. We all watch

1054
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 18: it like how because it is hard when you're such

1055
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 18: a journalist and do things where they allow you to

1056
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 18: show your personality. What was your first lesson in like

1057
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 18: I even want to try to diversify.

1058
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: Well, my first lesson was I got fired and you know,

1059
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: as you know, it's like you got fired from well,

1060
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: I got fired my first week from TMZ. I didn't

1061
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: know it.

1062
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 6: So my first.

1063
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 16: I'm gonna let her talk her story.

1064
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: So the first time I got fired was my first

1065
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: week in TMZ. I just moved to la and I

1066
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: was not even a PA yet. I was a runner.

1067
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know anybody in l A. I literally got

1068
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: the job by emailing contacts they used to have like

1069
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: a contact TMZ, and I just emailed and was like,

1070
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: I got a degree, can I like you know? And

1071
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: they were like, you've been out the game for a

1072
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: little bit, because I had stopped working in journalism and

1073
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: so they were like, we'll make you a runner. You

1074
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: can get the lunches. But this was before GPS, so

1075
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: I had like a Thomas Guide.

1076
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 15: Oh wow, yeah, that's age of myself.

1077
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: But I was I got lost. La is very difficult

1078
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: to navigate. You like, why is it too sa? So

1079
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: I got lost, So Paris Hilton got arrested, and I

1080
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: had to go get the tape from the paparazzi of

1081
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: her coming out of CNN for her first interview with

1082
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: Larry King.

1083
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 16: Oh my heart just dropped for you. Yeah, got lost

1084
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 16: with that tape.

1085
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: And I got lost, and if you know, CNN was

1086
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: on sunset and I took Highland to get back to

1087
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: the valley, and Harvey was like, why would you take

1088
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: Hiland and not Kawanga? What's wrong with you? Your fire

1089
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: in front of everybody? Choice, do you understand how that's

1090
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: very different? And you know, like this is before you

1091
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: could transfer digitally. You had to have the tape, so

1092
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: I cost them like fifteen twenty minutes and they wanted

1093
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: it up first. So he fired me in front of

1094
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: the whole newsroom and I went to the bathroom. I

1095
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 2: had only been in La like three months. I went

1096
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: to the bathroom and I was crying, like Ego kicked in.

1097
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: It was like at this place, go somewhere else. You

1098
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 2: don't need this place. And there was this really quiet

1099
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: voice with that was like, just go apologize. And I

1100
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: went to my managing editor and Harvey was in his office.

1101
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: I went to the managing editor and I had been

1102
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: staying late every day and I would just ask her

1103
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: she needed anything, so if she needed her trash taken out, whatever,

1104
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: I would just stay late for hours, just helping her

1105
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: and not getting paid. And I said, hey, you know,

1106
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry if I can work with you, and

1107
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: if you she was like, what are you talking about?

1108
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: And I said, Harvey just fired me. And she goes

1109
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: crossing down everywhere, and she went in his office and

1110
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: yelled at him, and he heard him say will you

1111
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: take her? And she came back out and offered me

1112
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: a year contract and was like, do you want to

1113
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: be my writing pa?

1114
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 6: Wow?

1115
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: And then that was in June of two thousand and seven.

1116
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: The show started in September of two thousand and seven,

1117
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: and by then he had heard me just talking. I

1118
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: would do my stories and talk out loud, and he

1119
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: thought I was funny, and he was like, I want

1120
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: you to pitch for the show, and I was like, no,

1121
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: I just want to write. He was like, I'm not

1122
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: asking you. You're gonna get on the show. And that's

1123
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: really how it started. That was the first time I

1124
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: got fired, and I was just like, I'm gonna just

1125
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: go for it. And I just was like, I'm not

1126
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: going to allow like one person to have the keys

1127
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: to like drive my car. Like I got to have

1128
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: these options open, and I have to like eat my

1129
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: ego a little bit. And I think our ego gets

1130
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: us in a lot of trouble in this industry. There's

1131
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: a lot of misunderst standings that happened that you you

1132
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: take it the wrong way. And I just learned to

1133
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: like drop that and it's helped me. Well what got

1134
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 2: you fired?

1135
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 6: For real?

1136
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: I didn't. I was fired from CBS. Okay, they didn't

1137
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 2: renew my contract, so the well you're just kind of fired,

1138
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: you know, You're like it's like we don't we're not

1139
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: having you back. I had like a two year contract

1140
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: and I had it was the most money I had

1141
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: ever made. Because now I'm an official course spind and

1142
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: I'm doing red carpets and I made all this money

1143
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: and I blew it. I was buying bags. I remember

1144
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: I went on my first check and bought a Gucci

1145
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: and Louis vuita bag, both just both. Because I have

1146
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: been I was making four fifty a week at TMZ

1147
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: who before taxes, so I wasn't making any money. So

1148
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: when I was getting the CBS money, I lost my

1149
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: damn mind. And I had no I had bad credit,

1150
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: I had no financial literacy all you had to be.

1151
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: And so when I lost the job, I was broke

1152
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: because I had I was, you know, even though I

1153
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: had money, I was spending every check. I was you know,

1154
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: I was at at the brunches, spending money like a

1155
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: drug dealer. I was just like, come on, let's let's

1156
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: get the bottles, you know, and just ridiculous. And what

1157
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: I realized was, I thought to myself, I had to

1158
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: downsize everything. I got a car accident, I lost my car,

1159
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: so I had to get a used car with the

1160
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: red light always on. And I had to get into

1161
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: a smaller apartment that was like a little bit more,

1162
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: you know, in a bad neighborhood. And I told myself,

1163
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: I was like, when I get my next thing, because

1164
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: I knew it was gonna come. I educated myself on

1165
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: how to get good credit. I fixed my credit, I

1166
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: figured out what I needed to save. I was like,

1167
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 2: I need multiple income. I was talking to Kevin Fraser

1168
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: who was at CBS, and he was kind of telling me, like,

1169
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: you acting crazy, you know. I talked called him my

1170
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: toxic mentor because he would give me advice, but it

1171
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: was always like really harsh. And I was like, the

1172
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: next time, I get it, and I got love and

1173
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: hip hop reunions and I just started saving everything. I

1174
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 2: started living under my means. So I was like, let

1175
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: me build this so that, like I can have two

1176
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: years of income so that the next time, I'm not

1177
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: gonna let this network decide like whether I eat or not.

1178
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 16: Do you when you left? To go back a little bit,

1179
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 16: when you left TMZ, were you seeing your news producer?

1180
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: Where were you when I left TMC, I did not

1181
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: have a job. I quit because they did not want

1182
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: to pay me.

1183
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 16: Okay, because there's always been a conversation. I don't know.

1184
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 18: I was told this before I went there, so not

1185
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 18: even just internally, but just in the journalism world, that

1186
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 18: you had been offered news director or something like that.

1187
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 18: But they didn't want to, Like they didn't you thought

1188
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 18: you should have news director, but they didn't want to

1189
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 18: give it to you.

1190
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: It was a news director. But what actually happened, I've

1191
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: never told anybody this. I accidentally got my coworker's check

1192
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: and we were sitting next to you, you know, TMZ

1193
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: would have the desks where there was a divider, and

1194
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: they said his check next to me, and I was

1195
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 2: just opening it blindly. And he was making six figures.

1196
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: I was not.

1197
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: I was making well under that. And I had been

1198
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: there and I was contributing. I was breaking stories. I

1199
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: was a part of Michael Jackson's death being broken. I

1200
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: was a part of major store is Bernie mac dyan.

1201
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: I was the managing editor on weekends, so it was

1202
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: just me and in that office in a PA. I

1203
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: was in there working. I only had Wednesdays off. I

1204
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: gave up my weekends for three years, and I was like,

1205
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: I put in the work.

1206
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 7: I was.

1207
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: It was my life. I didn't have a boyfriend, I

1208
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: didn't have friends. I wasn't going to the club, and

1209
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: I felt like I was old.

1210
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 6: This money.

1211
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: I think I was maybe making like fifty k Jesus

1212
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: and I just wanted what he was making. He was

1213
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: a white male, yes he was, and they were like no,

1214
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: And I was on every show and I was just like,

1215
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: y'all not gonna pay me. And we went into a

1216
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: little negotiation and I think maybe they offered me like

1217
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: ten more percent. I did not have another job. I

1218
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: did not have an agent, and I was like, I quit.

1219
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: I didn't have nothing, but I knew people liked me.

1220
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: And I reached out to a woman who used to

1221
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: be at Telepictures and she had just got an SBP

1222
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: job at CBS, and I was like. She was like, hey,

1223
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: we have the Insider once you come test for the Insider,

1224
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: and so I went tested for that and I got

1225
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 2: the Insider. But I didn't have anything when I left TMC,

1226
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I was going to do. The

1227
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: good thing about being young is because I was still

1228
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: in my twenties at the time, you little crazy, So

1229
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 2: you know, had I been this age, I might have

1230
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: been like, let me just figure something out. But now,

1231
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: you know, cause I got bills and big bills. But

1232
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: back then I was like, it ain't nothing for me

1233
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: to pack up the studio apartment, get on that couch.

1234
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: That was like you ain't trap me, and they was

1235
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: the best decision I could have made. I mean I

1236
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: left really at the Pinnacle. Vantage just started like it

1237
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: was really a good time to be there, and everybody

1238
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: told me not to quit. Everybody like socially TMC was

1239
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: really hot and like, cause this is the Paris Hilton

1240
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: Britney Spears era, so people were like, you're crazy to leave.

1241
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: But I was just like, this is not serving me.

1242
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: And they not only that, Like this was before paid

1243
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: disparity was really a thing, so it was just accepted

1244
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: that the women take less. And I was like, I

1245
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 2: work harder than all these people up in here, and

1246
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm a black woman. And I mean when you guys

1247
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: started the Breakfast Club, that's how we met. We were

1248
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: started emailing, like dude, was like I got this new show.

1249
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: I was like, we're gonna put you on the show.

1250
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: And I've made a lot of contacts because I would

1251
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: reach out to black media and be like it on

1252
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: our bloc row, let me send you the break of news.

1253
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: Like I really cultivated. I still have all those relationships

1254
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 2: because I really was like I can't prevent them from

1255
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: putting this story out about black people, but I can

1256
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: at least give our side and if you call me,

1257
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give your side out there because they didn't care.

1258
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: They would just put it up. And so that was

1259
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: really for me, like my time.

1260
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 13: So I was like, you're not gonna pay me, but

1261
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 13: still kicking it with Nina Parker and keV on stage.

1262
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: The new show Friday Night Vibes is on TBS. Was

1263
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: it toxic working there?

1264
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 16: Indeed?

1265
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: What I mean, listen this is I've heard. It's not

1266
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: like that anymore. I don't know, And this is one

1267
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: of the reasons you and I haven't talked because I

1268
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: checked out of all things TMZ. I never watched the

1269
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: show again. When I stopped like, I didn't, I stopped community.

1270
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: I didn't even I'm not commun here with people I knew,

1271
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: but anything like I just kind of shut that part

1272
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: of my braain off because I had a lot of

1273
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: PTSD and it was you have to think about it.

1274
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: This was like the birth of New age media. There

1275
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: were no rules, so we would work like fourteen hours

1276
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: a day. You would get in trouble for taking a lunch.

1277
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: You couldn't leave like your desk. You had to answer

1278
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: your phone at four in the morning. It was you

1279
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 2: would work weekends and you couldn't say no. We would rock.

1280
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: People would walk around with their laptop. We would go

1281
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: to a concert. You have to have the laptop in

1282
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: your back because if you got a call it for

1283
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: you didn't answer, you would get fired for it was

1284
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: over for you. So and I made the decision to

1285
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 2: participate in that because I didn't have anybody, I didn't

1286
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: have anything else. I didn't have a team. We were

1287
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: kind of deterred from getting a team, like you know.

1288
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: So the things I know now this is this is

1289
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: there was no HR no H.

1290
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 16: Was very new, and there there was the union. Things

1291
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 16: that come in when you have in your protection they

1292
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 16: got rid of.

1293
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: That didn't exist back then. Like they had Telepictures that

1294
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: was the parent company that technically you could go, but

1295
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: you didn't know anybody there because they weren't You only

1296
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: knew who was in the building. So it was it

1297
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 2: was really the wild West. And I probably I mean

1298
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: when Michael Jackson died, I didn't leave the office for

1299
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 2: three days, like we slept there and.

1300
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 15: That was your salary of fifty thousand dollars or less.

1301
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: What I mean, I think I was still making like

1302
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: the PA salary thing, which was I think I had

1303
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: got boosted like six fifty a week. Crazy thing is

1304
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: when Lauren started working here.

1305
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 13: You ever see that dog that they and I'm not

1306
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 13: comparing you to a dog, that dog that when you

1307
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 13: get out the shelter right and you put your.

1308
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 2: Hand up to pettit.

1309
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 13: And that's how Lauren was. Lauren was like, wait a minute,

1310
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 13: you guys just said the good job like it was.

1311
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 13: I'm like what I thought she was joking? Then I

1312
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 13: realized no, she was traumatized.

1313
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: How long were you there?

1314
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 18: How was that TMC for eight years? And when you

1315
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 18: come in you hear well from the black people there,

1316
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 18: you hear so much about you. Van was always really

1317
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 18: big about, you know, talking to me about you. He

1318
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 18: was there when I was. When I was there, so

1319
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 18: was Raquel. And then they left, and when they left

1320
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 18: it was me and I was like, what.

1321
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: At least you had the camaraderie.

1322
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 18: But then they left, right and then George Floyd and

1323
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 18: i'm o Avrey happened and it was like, oh.

1324
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 2: And you're fighting by yourself Because there's a lot of microaggression,

1325
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: there's macro too, and one of the things that was

1326
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: hard for me was like at the time, and this

1327
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 2: was before Van even got there. I was the only

1328
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: black person on camera. And so you are yes, yes,

1329
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: the stories you tell me yourself, and you feel an obligation,

1330
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 2: but sometimes you're tired. Right, But the thing is with

1331
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: black talent, especially, you don't have the luxury of being

1332
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: silent when it's a black issue, because they're gonna look

1333
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: at you in this room full of white people and

1334
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: wonder why you didn't say anything. They're not gonna think

1335
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: about Like I've been doing this every single day. I

1336
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 2: got a migraine. I'm tired, Like I'm tired of arguing.

1337
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: I know, their race baiting me. They bait you on purpose.

1338
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm like, I got to

1339
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: think about the people who are watching that look like me,

1340
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: that are like me, and why didn't you speak up?

1341
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, as you age, fighting every

1342
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: day gets exhausting. And also when you get in baited

1343
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: because it's like, I don't mind having a healthy discussion,

1344
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: but you're purposely trying to bait me to have this

1345
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: conversation so you can have content, and I'm not really

1346
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 2: with that, And so you get tired of being used.

1347
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 2: You get tired of like when men being talked about,

1348
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: you know, you feel like I'm in this space. When

1349
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 2: I was there, it was very toxic, like we would

1350
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: get they had a relationship with Vivid because you know

1351
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashians sex tape and they Vivid would send like

1352
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: sex tapees in and sometimes people would just watch him

1353
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: in the office, you know, and it was like you

1354
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: were like what am I What's going on? But then

1355
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: also you're like, well, what are my other options? And

1356
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 2: that's when you start to build these relationships and you're like,

1357
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: I got to make an exit plan.

1358
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 18: I had a I just want to say this real quick.

1359
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 18: Then we can move away from tim Z because you

1360
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 18: have moved away.

1361
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: But I met.

1362
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 18: About I met you a long time ago in LA

1363
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 18: and our interaction you weren't rude, but it just wasn't

1364
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 18: the best. And one I was about to leave, Ban

1365
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 18: was like, you should call me, and I was like,

1366
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 18: I don't think she cares for me that much, and

1367
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 18: he was really and I was like, well, and I

1368
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 18: told him, but now here in your I don't know

1369
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 18: if you even knew who I was, But if so,

1370
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 18: I'm thinking like maybe that I had nothing to do

1371
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 18: with that. But I never thought about this because when

1372
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 18: you're in that environment, you think it's regular, you think

1373
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 18: it's okay, right, I never thought about like what your

1374
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 18: post life felt like mentally having to go through and

1375
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 18: deal with all of that.

1376
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 2: I think that so I got to do you telling

1377
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: the world that Nina no I said, why would you

1378
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: do that?

1379
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 18: The reason I want to say that is because now

1380
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 18: I'm sitting here and I felt your emotion just now

1381
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 18: when you're talking about your experience, and I identify with

1382
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 18: it so much, and it made me think about if

1383
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 18: I were to run into someone right in that same

1384
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 18: predicament unknowingly, I might not like, you know, do you

1385
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 18: know what I'm trying to Well.

1386
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 2: You're reacting to the place, not the person, yes, And

1387
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: so you you know, it's like if someone brings up

1388
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 2: a relationship that hurts you, you're kind of like, especially

1389
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: if you're not in a space to like say, you're

1390
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: not thinking about it, and it jars you for a

1391
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: second where you're just like And also, I'm very media trained, right,

1392
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: so sometimes I don't want to speak bad on a place,

1393
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: and I don't know if my experience would be your experience.

1394
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 2: So there's a lot. I can't say to you without

1395
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: saying it right where I can. It's like, how do

1396
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: I tell this person that in the trenches and like

1397
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 2: get out quickly? Yes, because that may not be your journey.

1398
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: So how do I say that to you with because

1399
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: it's so nuanced. So it's just such a layered thing.

1400
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: So sometimes if like people come up and be like

1401
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 2: I'm at TMZ, I'm kind of and I'm like, yeah,

1402
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you, because this is

1403
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: it's only something you understand if you've been there. It's

1404
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: like being in a sorority. But at the same time,

1405
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: and I think I've just healed from being there probably

1406
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: within the last like four years, four or five years.

1407
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: You I have this thing now where I'm my friends

1408
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 2: say I'm the fastest responder because you had to be

1409
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: this thing, right, I always Even now I'm not really

1410
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: in news anymore, like I'm a host for shows, and

1411
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: even now I feel like I got to look at

1412
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: these headlines, I'm like, what am I doing? I am

1413
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 2: posting about no news. I'm the first to post a

1414
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: tweet about it. Like, so you have these things so

1415
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't remember the the interaction, but I'll say that

1416
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: it was so traumatizing that sometimes it was hard to

1417
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: react positively about it. And also, you know, as you grow,

1418
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: you learn how to temper that a little bit better.

1419
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: But I think probably when we met, I hadn't really

1420
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: quite learned time.

1421
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 16: It wasn't nothing crazy, but I just I felt your shock.

1422
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 16: I just didn't.

1423
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 18: I didn't under Yeah, I didn't understand what I felt

1424
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 18: until this moment and you were dealing with But I

1425
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 18: didn't know because when when we hear about your journey,

1426
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 18: then we just hear.

1427
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: Well, I've never talked about this is the first time.

1428
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: I think we always said things positively because ultimately it

1429
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: was a positive experience because I have never learned. You

1430
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: learned kind of when you're in that because it's like

1431
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 2: the army.

1432
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 16: But I tell people it was the best boot camp

1433
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 16: I've ever been.

1434
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: To, the best book camp you'll never And one thing

1435
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: I will say about Harvey is he, to this day

1436
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: probably the hardest work ethic of anyone I've ever known

1437
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: in the industry. But you you get a lot of

1438
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: trauma from it, and it's very difficult to express if

1439
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: you haven't been there. And then also it's like I

1440
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: don't want to make that my story. So you know,

1441
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 2: when I'm meeting somebody and we in a social setting,

1442
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: it's like it's still now. Some people say, oh, I

1443
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: know you from TMZ, and I cringe a little bit,

1444
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 2: not because I'm ashamed of it. I've done so much,

1445
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 2: but it's still something that's always associated with you and

1446
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: will always be, as you will know it will always be,

1447
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 2: and there's going to be a time where you just

1448
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: don't want to hear about it because you've accomplished so

1449
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: much more, and so it's a little triggering when someone

1450
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: comes up to you and wants to talk about it

1451
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: and you're just like, so like bringing up an X

1452
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: that you don't at all.

1453
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: Do it anymore, because what you really wanted to say

1454
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 4: to her probably was good luck.

1455
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what am I supposed to say if you're in it?

1456
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 7: No?

1457
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I needed the money, but I forget

1458
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 18: what was going on at the time. But I think

1459
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 18: this was one of the times where I been wanted

1460
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 18: to quit and I just didn't. People think you're crazy

1461
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 18: to say that, and I was like, oh, I could

1462
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 18: talk to her.

1463
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: And then I wish we would have been introduced through

1464
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: VAN because there I would have loved to have talked

1465
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: to you one on one, like privately and just really

1466
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: give you a good download, because I know that you

1467
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: did reach out and DM and I never even saw

1468
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: them because weren't I wasn't following you, and I didn't

1469
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: even see him until I followed you, and I was like, dang,

1470
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: there's DMS in here, and I didn't even see this

1471
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: cry out for help. This is gonna be my last

1472
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: thing about the PD. What I found is a lot

1473
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 2: of people who leave only find their worth in posting

1474
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: news because they that's how you were rewarded then you

1475
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: were only you were. You could have been fired for

1476
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 2: not producing enough, so you find like you're worth in

1477
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: producing stuff. That's why, Like when I left, I would

1478
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: be posting breaking news and I didn't even have an

1479
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: outlet to attribute it to. And what it's what it

1480
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: allowed me to do when I took a step back

1481
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: was start to put more worth in like me, what

1482
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying and the other things, because I was like,

1483
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I really like news anymore,

1484
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if this is something I even

1485
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,959
Speaker 2: enjoy anymore, Like I enjoy talking to people, I enjoy

1486
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: x y Z, like what else can I dive into?

1487
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: And for you, what I would like to say is,

1488
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: and I think you're very good at it, but you know,

1489
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: and I know you have other things that you like to,

1490
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: you know, get into, and I just don't want you

1491
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: to get caught up in this thing of like I

1492
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: have to produce to be value because it's like what

1493
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,439
Speaker 2: who you are that brings the value, not being first

1494
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: because we're we kind of are taught to like we

1495
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: got to be first, even just have.

1496
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: Heard.

1497
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the value is not in being

1498
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: first anymore because this is what I have learned. It's

1499
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: what you're going to talk about that is valuable because

1500
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: you're not technically in the news place that has to

1501
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: be first.

1502
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 16: And just sometimes you when you hear that, did you

1503
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 16: hear that?

1504
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: A sense of urgency is what makes you special because

1505
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: you care and that's important. But I think people care

1506
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: just they want to know that these days everybody can

1507
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: get it anywhere correct. They want your take on it.

1508
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: So and you were correct and everybody else is wrong. Yeah,

1509
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: I know I was.

1510
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 16: Correct.

1511
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: Friday Night Vibes on TV.

1512
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 15: We appreciate you guys coming up and don't be strange.

1513
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: You could come home feel like you need a girl.

1514
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 2: I was watching too. I was like, oh my god,

1515
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: this is really happening. They're gonna put this on team.

1516
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 15: But please come on, if you are in town, please

1517
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 15: come on away.

1518
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: Seven years to get Kemp. So yeah, well, y'all just

1519
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: had him.

1520
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 6: So this was fine.

1521
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: I was fullying. I was in the coverage, tweeting fill

1522
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: into yes, yes, I have a I have a clothing

1523
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: line for plus women sizes twelve to thirty is. Yes,

1524
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: it's in stores, is at Macy's. It's doing very well,

1525
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: and so this is one of the designs. So yeah,

1526
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: it's do you know the multiple streams is always needed

1527
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: me to parking, not the little to keep a check.

1528
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 13: It's Nina Parker kept on stage Friday night vibes on TBS.

1529
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: It's the breakfast club.

1530
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 15: Good morning, that donkey, donkey that don't don't don't jump

1531
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 15: dunk the.

1532
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 12: Other day, right, there's a breakfast club.

1533
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: Bitches, you can call me the donkey of the day,

1534
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: but like I need no harm, Yes donkey, whoa why

1535
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: the hell I'm so loud? Scar myself?

1536
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: Don'ty today goes to a Pennsylvania woman named Christina solar Meado.

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Speaker 1: Christine this Solemido is forty four years old, and she

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Speaker 1: did something that people figuratively talk about doing. And I

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Speaker 1: wish I could cress on the radio but I can't.

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Speaker 1: But just know Bicki MinID wrote the song about doing

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Speaker 1: this to her ops. She called it did it on him.

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Speaker 1: But that's the clean version. Yeah, let's hear some of

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Speaker 1: this classic.

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Speaker 2: Can you remember this right? Yes, that's how a clean

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Speaker 2: version go. No, it was okay, turn it up, let

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Speaker 2: me hit it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, keep the instrumental going for me.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, See all of y'all talk about releasing snak missiles

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Speaker 1: on your ops, but she never actually released the chocolate hostages.

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Speaker 4: But Christina actually did. Let's go to NBC ten Philly

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Speaker 4: for the report.

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Speaker 21: Police the police chief or Prospect Park says he has

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Speaker 21: seen some road reach cases during his career. Somebody cuts

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Speaker 21: someone off, then the drivers might get into a heated exchange,

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Speaker 21: then they typically drive away. But in this case on Tuesday,

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Speaker 21: there was a little more to that, and the incident

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Speaker 21: was captured on video by a bystander. That video, shared

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Speaker 21: thousands of times on Instagram, shows a woman identified Thursday

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Speaker 21: as Christina Solometto walking to another woman's car.

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Speaker 16: The forty four year old sits on the hood or not,

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Speaker 16: showing the.

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Speaker 21: Most graphic parts of the video, including when she appeared

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Speaker 21: to defecate on the car. Solometto was brought to the

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Speaker 21: Prospect Park Police Department Thursday in handcuffs, offering no remarks.

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Speaker 21: She faces a number of charges, including in decent exposure

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Speaker 21: and depositing waste on a highway.

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Speaker 4: Imagine how mad you got to be the weaponize your

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Speaker 4: own digestive system.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is biological warfare, all right.

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Speaker 1: I respect people who can back the brown Caldillac out

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Speaker 1: of the garage in public.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not one of those people.

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Speaker 2: Now. I am very regular. Okay, eight thirty am every.

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Speaker 4: Morning, I'm making a tombstone in the water grave here

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Speaker 4: at work. But if somebody comes in the bathroom or

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Speaker 4: sits in the stall next to me, I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a cowboy fan, but I can't take the

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Speaker 1: Browns through the Super Bowl if someone else is in

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Speaker 1: the bathroom with me.

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Speaker 4: So the fact this woman was able to bake some butt.

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Speaker 1: Brownies in public on Q It's impressive, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you something, Christina. The reason you get in the

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Speaker 1: biggest he hards because, according to the police Affidavid, you said,

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Speaker 1: and I quote, I wanted to punch you in the face,

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Speaker 1: but I pooped on our car instead and went home.

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Speaker 2: I would rather you punched it in the face.

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Speaker 4: Okay. It takes way more energy to pull your pants.

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Speaker 1: Down and birth a creamy behemoth in public than it

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Speaker 1: does to punch someone in the face. Now, Christina allegedly

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Speaker 1: told cops that it was a clean poop.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have to wipe.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 1: Quote For the record, there is no such thing as

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Speaker 1: a clean wipe, okay, are a clean poop?

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Speaker 4: When you release the mud monkeys, the antal area.

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Speaker 2: Becomes soiled with stool and you gotta clean it, okay.

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01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: Fecal mata contains bacteria and other micro organisms that can

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Speaker 1: cause infections, are spread if not properly cleaned the way

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Speaker 1: and having residual dookie around the rim of your bookie

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Speaker 1: can cause discomfort, okay, itching and irritation whenever the inside

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Speaker 1: of your bonky itchin guarantees you didn't wipe properly. But

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Speaker 1: there is no clean kills. When you push you out

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Speaker 1: a suel snake. Okay, when you launch for torpedos, there

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Speaker 1: is always a casualty.

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Speaker 4: That's all I got. Please give Christina Solar medal the

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Speaker 4: biggest he hull he ha he ha.

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Speaker 2: You stupid mother.

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Speaker 10: Are you dumb the amounts of effort in which you

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Speaker 10: put that presentation?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you did? You literally, boy, like you ate that

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Speaker 2: I would never eat.

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Speaker 10: But what I'm saying you literally you told that story

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Speaker 10: like Maya Angela.

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Speaker 15: All right, well, thank you for that donkey of the day.

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Speaker 2: Now when we come back, thank you for that douchy.

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Speaker 16: Of the day.

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Speaker 6: The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 15: DJ n V Jess hilarious, Chela mean the.

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Speaker 13: Guy we are the Breakfast Club Laura l Rossa Field

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Speaker 13: in for just today we got a special guest in

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Speaker 13: the building.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed we have the brother Leon Thomas.

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Speaker 14: Welcome, Bro, It's good, it's good. Hey y'all feeling how

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Speaker 14: you feeling? Bless Black and Holly favorite Leon. You are

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Speaker 14: by far the greatest new male R and B singer

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Speaker 14: doing it today.

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Speaker 2: Man, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: That shouldn't even be up with debate.

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Speaker 2: Man, I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Man, how do you receive it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, to be honest, I try to

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Speaker 3: just take it one step at a time. You know,

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Speaker 3: I try to stay humble with everything. But I'm glad

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Speaker 3: to be a new voice in R and B. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's a genre that I love. You know, I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to bring back live musicianship, real songs.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: Writing with the team that I have has been an

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Speaker 3: amazing pleasure. And you know, just bringing like that, that

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Speaker 3: organic feeling back to the live stage is like a

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Speaker 3: big thing for me.

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Speaker 13: You know, for people that don't know Leon Thomas, you

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Speaker 13: know you started on Broadway. Tell everybody how you got

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Speaker 13: your start and your way into being this R and

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Speaker 13: B star. Well, listen, I grew up in New York,

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Speaker 13: started on Broadway out here. I did three Broadway plays

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Speaker 13: from Lion King the Carolina changed the color purple.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was assembling in Lion King. And then

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Speaker 3: you know, I started booking movies and TV show.

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Speaker 2: How How was that?

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Speaker 15: I just took my kids to see. You know, it

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Speaker 15: was insane, was that training? Because it's a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Shows, a lot of people in it's live, so you

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Speaker 3: can't mess up. No, no, no, you can't mess up.

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Speaker 3: It's eight shows a week. I was ten years old

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Speaker 3: when I did my first Broadway play. Shout out to

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Speaker 3: my mom and my family for you know, supporting me

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Speaker 3: through that whole journey. And yeah, man, I went from

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Speaker 3: being a regular kid to starring on Broadway and a

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Speaker 3: matter of months.

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Speaker 2: You know, Now, how was that?

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Speaker 13: Because it's not the typical thing New York kids do, right,

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Speaker 13: So you're singing, you're dancing, you're doing that.

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Speaker 2: So how did you get it to.

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Speaker 13: That point of No, because you go to Broadway. I

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Speaker 13: don't know anybody they went to Broway, it's very differ.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I had a couple homies who ended up in different plays,

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Speaker 3: but for the most part, yeah, yeah, it was definitely

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Speaker 3: like a bit of an anomaly for my neighborhood in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 11: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of weird playing it to my homies

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Speaker 3: in school, like, yeah, I was just doing a show

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Speaker 3: last night.

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Speaker 2: They're like, what was going on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not from New York, from the hoods of

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Speaker 4: New York.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but no, it was definitely a real pleasure, you know.

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Speaker 3: But but but from there, I ended up doing a

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Speaker 3: lot of TV and film.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 3: I shot my first movie out here with Robin Williams

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Speaker 3: and Terrence Howard called August Rush, which was an amazing pleasure,

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Speaker 3: and that kind of brought me into a lot of

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Speaker 3: a lot of TV after that with Nickelodeon and Victorious Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: with Arianna Grande, and you know, that was a big journey.

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Speaker 3: That was the number one show on the network at

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Speaker 3: the time. We were beating out American Idol and it

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Speaker 3: was a way for the rest of the world to

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Speaker 3: kind of really tap into who I am as a creative.

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Speaker 3: But it took years of really honing in on who

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Speaker 3: I am as an artist to get to this point,

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01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 3: producing and writing for a bunch of different artists, went

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Speaker 3: in a Grammy, working with Siza and a Babyface Drake,

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Speaker 3: a bunch of different people. It's been a actually dou

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Speaker 3: for Drake, but but you know, shout out to him

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Speaker 3: and yeah, allegedly, man, but you know, from me, I

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Speaker 3: don't think there's anything wrong with it either. But it

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Speaker 3: was a blessing to I mean, it's interesting because I'm

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Speaker 3: an artist and people see me as a singer, they

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01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 3: kind of forget that I also produced a lot of

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Speaker 3: big records.

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Speaker 2: You know, my production game is pretty tight. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: all purpose your lyrics like that of a rap.

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Speaker 14: But that's why when I see Freddie Gibbs on your records,

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01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 14: But it makes so much sense to be you're still

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Speaker 14: touching anybody from.

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Speaker 3: Victoria's absolutely man, you know, I'll chop it up with

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Speaker 3: Ari Avan. Joe Gia is a really good friend of mine.

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Speaker 3: You know, Matt Bennett, a lot of the cast. We

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Speaker 3: all hang out and do lunch. It's kind of like

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Speaker 3: my last two years of high school were with them,

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Speaker 3: so that's like my graduating class. Essentially. We were all

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Speaker 3: in school together, so we filmed, but we also went

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Speaker 3: to school. So Tho was my really good friends.

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Speaker 4: To Victoria and her mom. I did a host of

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Speaker 4: the New Year's Eve special with them for real.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's dope. People.

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Speaker 3: You ever wrote for a Yeah? Actually I worked with

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Speaker 3: her on her first album. That was my first time

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Speaker 3: on number one with an album. I did about like

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Speaker 3: four songs on her first album, Yours truly Wow, So

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Speaker 3: that was a real pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you know you always wanted to be an

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Speaker 2: R and B singer? Like?

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Speaker 13: It was that the goal as a kid growing up?

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Speaker 13: You always wanted to be an actor? Like and when

1729
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 13: did you pivot? When he was like this is what

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Speaker 13: I want to do.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I did this role with Katherine Bigelow,

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01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: She's an Oscar Award winning director, but I had to

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 3: cut my dreads for it, and that was kind of

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Speaker 3: like my last straw in acting.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I did this role for Detroit and I felt like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I need to kind of tap back into

1739
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 3: who I am as an artist. You know, grew my

1740
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 3: dreads back, really got into my internal self meditating, really

1741
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 3: like tapping into who I am as a human being,

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01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: and a lot of great music came out of that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I always knew I wanted to be a singer,

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01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 3: but I knew for a fact I needed to really

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: present myself as who I truly was. It's so easy

1746
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 3: to play a character when you're always acting. You know,

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01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 3: I needed to come to the world as my true

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 3: self when you were on.

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Speaker 18: The like the sets when you like even with like

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 18: Victorious and stuff like that. What was your mom and

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01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 18: like your parents there often or talked a lot about

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01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 18: that too, Like parents were close.

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Speaker 2: Now they were there, they were there.

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Speaker 6: You know.

1755
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: My mom was never like a mamager like over my

1756
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 3: over my shoulder kind of mom, but she was also

1757
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: very protective of my piece and mental health and making

1758
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 3: sure that I'm just like in a good, good space

1759
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 3: while I'm while I'm trying to create something timeless, and

1760
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 3: you know, shout out to her for just always you know,

1761
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 3: creating safe spaces for me throughout that journey. You know,

1762
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 3: from getting slimmed, it was definitely nuts, definitely nuts, you know,

1763
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 3: seeing seeing how everything with them, Definitely it's definitely definitely insane.

1764
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 4: Don't say that, definitely nuts after that.

1765
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I know, you know it's crazy. It's

1766
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 3: crazy because you know, I just saw the doc not

1767
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 3: too long ago. It's definitely eye opening. And a lot

1768
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: of my castmates we hopped on a Zoom call. We

1769
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 3: all wanted to talk about it. And luckily during during

1770
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 3: in our seasons, it was it was very wholesome and chill.

1771
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 3: But you know, shout out to anybody who dealt with

1772
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: anything bad. I mean, I you know, my heart definitely

1773
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 3: goes out to them.

1774
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 14: The thing I love about your music too is number one,

1775
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 14: I can tell you you got a sense of freedom. Yeah,

1776
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 14: but did that come with money or does that come

1777
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 14: with just how you came up? You know, with your

1778
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 14: mom doing music, so you always felt free as an artist.

1779
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I think the greatest thing about

1780
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: being an artist is that it's a it's a great

1781
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: representation of being a free black man, you know, like,

1782
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 3: you know, being able to wear what I want, you know,

1783
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 3: say what I want on on record is really important

1784
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 3: to me.

1785
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 7: You know.

1786
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 3: I try to stay as grounded and uh as real

1787
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 3: to who I am as I can be. I mean,

1788
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 3: I think it's it's it's really easy to want to

1789
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 3: be an artist and play a character who you think

1790
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 3: people want you to be. But I'm doing my best

1791
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 3: to just like kind of just say what I want

1792
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 3: what I want, you know, when you come up.

1793
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 18: With songs, but like I like feelings on Silent I

1794
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 18: love but songs like that, Like when I listen to it,

1795
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 18: each time I get something different from it. So the

1796
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 18: first time I listened, I was like, Oh, this is

1797
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 18: like guys just being like we keep her feelingce to herself.

1798
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 18: And then the second time I listened, I'm like, this

1799
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 18: is the trauma that they deal with because like he

1800
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 18: mentions PTSD and a bunch of other things, like how

1801
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 18: do you first of all, sitting.

1802
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 16: Back you wrote that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I sitting back

1803
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 16: and writing with him.

1804
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 18: How do you be like, Okay, here's all the things

1805
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 18: that we want people to get when they hear this,

1806
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 18: or do you guys just write and whatever people get

1807
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 18: they get, Like were you dealing with something yourself then?

1808
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: Or you know? The way I wrote that record was

1809
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 2: really interesting.

1810
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: I was in I was in Italy actually, I was

1811
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: working with Ya and TOI Dollars on the Vultures one project,

1812
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 3: and I just had some lyrics kind of you know,

1813
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 3: bubbling up in my head. But I think it was

1814
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 3: one of those moments that it was just kind of

1815
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 3: stream of consciousness. I didn't really think too hard on

1816
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 3: my sections. That was like my second take that you're

1817
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 3: hearing there. It wasn't like me like kind of really

1818
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 3: punching in a bunch of different ideas. It was just

1819
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 3: kind of flowing. And when Wile heard it, that was

1820
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 3: probably the hardest verse to get because we did probably

1821
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 3: we did like five sessions to get that one verse.

1822
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 3: But Yo, he's so talented and seeing how he crafted

1823
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 3: his verse, I mean, he would do like five bars

1824
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 3: at the time, and he really cared about the poetry

1825
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 3: of it all. And it's why I really respect him

1826
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 3: as an artist. He's just a true lyricist who.

1827
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 13: Of course Leam Thomas a singer, songwriter, producer and acting.

1828
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 13: His album Mutt is out right now, and we got

1829
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 13: to congratulate you because you gotta Grammy for your record

1830
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 13: with Sism. We tell everybody that we helped with that

1831
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 13: because we played Snooze every morning four times.

1832
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: You wrote Snooze produced on Snooze.

1833
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 8: Man.

1834
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 3: First of all, let's clear this up. Shout out to

1835
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: Scissen for writing that record. We were producing in a

1836
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 3: separate room and she heard the instrumental and was like, yo,

1837
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: what is that? And you know, there there is something

1838
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 3: that I do where I like take my voice and

1839
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 3: I chop it up like a sample because clearing samples

1840
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 3: is really expensive and cuts into the publishing. So rather

1841
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 3: than it's like actually doing a sample, I'll just you know,

1842
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 3: red sing a little something, right.

1843
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: So she really liked that and then took it into

1844
01:13:59,479 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: the other.

1845
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 3: Room and wrote an amazing song and being a part

1846
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 3: of the production on that with Babyface legendary baby Face

1847
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: was a true pleasure man. I mean, it was a

1848
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 3: real journey to see that song go from like a

1849
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: crowd favorite to a Grammy Award winning r and B

1850
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 3: song Man.

1851
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 2: That was definitely life changing for me.

1852
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 4: You got a deduction team, right, yeah?

1853
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rascal was me, Me and and Chris tians Man.

1854
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 3: We've been working together since we were like eighteen, so

1855
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 3: it's really cool to see the growth. I mean, we

1856
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 3: started off, you know, a little shaky when it came

1857
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 3: to production, but it's nice to see us, you know,

1858
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 3: really develop into the producers we are now. We had

1859
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 3: great mentors.

1860
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 18: Man, you have such big moments like even before that

1861
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 18: and during that, but it's like, I don't know, like

1862
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 18: when do you feel like things started like to click

1863
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 18: finally where people were like, oh shoot, Leon, like.

1864
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 16: We get it now.

1865
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 2: It's really interesting.

1866
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 3: I like to call it the Drake effect when I

1867
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 3: was working when I was working with Drake, all of

1868
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 3: a sudden, label executives who have known me for years

1869
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 3: were like, eh, I think you could be an artist,

1870
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 3: you know, And I was like, okay, So I kind

1871
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 3: of peeped that, and I said, okay, well let's start

1872
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 3: kind of building this out. But I knew I wanted

1873
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 3: that that same formula that Drake had with a Lil

1874
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 3: Wayne and and and you know, working with Todd dallas

1875
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 3: Son was a really smart move, not only because he's

1876
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 3: just an amazing artist, but because it was just nice

1877
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 3: to have a mentor who had done it already.

1878
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: So he's he's just like kind of like, yo, try this.

1879
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: Make sure the look has this, or you know, even

1880
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: when it came to the music, like here's how you

1881
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: really format an album, and I'm definitely doing a lot

1882
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: of studying, you know, shout out to Todd dallas Sign

1883
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 3: for sure. He definitely, you know, saw something in me

1884
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 3: that a lot of label executives were not sure about,

1885
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 3: and uh, it's cool to see it developing.

1886
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: How did you real, Tom?

1887
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 6: How did you tie me?

1888
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: I was actually working on his album as a producer

1889
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 3: on featuring Todd dallas Sign. I was like one of

1890
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 3: I think nine producers on a song with Kanye and

1891
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 3: Thundercat and a bunch of other people.

1892
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 4: Nine producers on one record.

1893
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like when it it was like point five,

1894
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 3: like I was just there out of this or that

1895
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 3: vocal and like some bass or something. But but he

1896
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 3: had everybody play like their un least records and I

1897
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 3: played on some of my first album as like demos,

1898
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: and Todd was like, yo, you really You're really tight,

1899
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 3: you know as an artist, he was like man and

1900
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 3: he was originally trying to record one of the songs

1901
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 3: that I had, but I was like, nah, I want

1902
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 3: you to feature on it. And over the years we

1903
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 3: became really good friends. I was working with him a

1904
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 3: lot and just kind of developed into a into a

1905
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 3: whole situation with Sean Baron. Sean Barron is the guy

1906
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 3: who officially like put it all together with Easy Money

1907
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 3: in Motown.

1908
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 18: Is it tough navigating because people are getting to know

1909
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 18: you now and everybody's fall in love with your music now,

1910
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 18: and like you have such a close association with Drake,

1911
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 18: you have to like pick and choose where you go

1912
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 18: musically and what you do musically with.

1913
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 2: Who you know.

1914
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 4: Honestly, can you work with Kendrick Lamar if you want to? Yeah?

1915
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know that's what she's asking. I mean,

1916
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 3: the way, the way I really look at it is

1917
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 3: just like on a political level, I make R and B.

1918
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 3: You know, obviously I make hip hop too, but I'm

1919
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 3: really focused on my artist journey. So I mean, Kendrick

1920
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 3: is such a huge artist. I don't really foresee us

1921
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 3: working together in the near future. And even with Drake.

1922
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 3: You know, I still want to take my steps to

1923
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: really build on my own two feet as an artist.

1924
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 3: So I'm doing what i have to do right now

1925
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: to really like grow my own business. Touring is a

1926
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 3: big thing for me. I'm really focused on that. I'm

1927
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 3: hitting the road all this year and working on more records.

1928
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 3: So I mean shout out to everybody, but but I'm

1929
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 3: definitely focused on me.

1930
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Speaker 1: How old were you when you realize Vibes Don't Lie?

1931
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 1: One of my favorite records, When you first realized Vibes

1932
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: Don't Lie?

1933
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 2: I think that was that was definitely early twenties.

1934
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 3: I think uh LA is filled with facades and people

1935
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 3: who are pretending to be something they aren't, people who

1936
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 3: move from their hometown and create a whole new persona.

1937
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 3: So I think for me, just really studying folks, especially

1938
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 3: a lot of the women you deal without their you know,

1939
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: it's really important to study their actions and not their words.

1940
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 14: I love the fact that you are encouraging women women

1941
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 14: to keep their healthy Yes, did you ever want to

1942
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 14: be a gun of collusest?

1943
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 7: No?

1944
01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 6: No, no, no, it wasn't on the list.

1945
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: Listen, Yeah, I just listen. I just listen. Man, They

1946
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 2: tell you like, Hey, I'm feeling the best of this.

1947
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 7: No.

1948
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think pH balance is a conversation

1949
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: and you know, I just listen.

1950
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 14: You was very very specific. She said, uh, she only

1951
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 14: drink water. She keep that healthy.

1952
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 18: They said on Twitter, you'd be talking crazy like that,

1953
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 18: but you sing it, so people can't be you had

1954
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 18: that conversation in real life, which your home.

1955
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 16: Like you're not your homegrow.

1956
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 3: I'm just big on shock value. I think songs, especially

1957
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 3: R and B songs, have gotten a bit not boring.

1958
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: But I think we've we've kind of already hit the

1959
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 3: the golden era of R and B. So I'm just

1960
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 3: finding new ways to make people's ears, you know, perk

1961
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 3: up and their minds move. I think social media and

1962
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 3: podcasts are really interesting to me. You know, these phone

1963
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 3: mics bring out so many conversations, and I think as

1964
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 3: an R and B artist, I want to find ways

1965
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 3: to let that live on the record, and it doesn't

1966
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 3: always have to be like verbating of what I'm going

1967
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 3: through in real life.

1968
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: I think it's important to create the drama.

1969
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1970
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 3: I kind of see music as you know, scripting the score.

1971
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 3: So sometimes the records are just like really good dramatizations

1972
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:12,839
Speaker 3: of like what I'm seeing.

1973
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 2: You never think everybody?

1974
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 16: But but like, why does that go for you?

1975
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 7: Now?

1976
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think. I don't think it's now.

1977
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 18: Expecting you to be like, all right, here's the check,

1978
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 18: Like how do you because you got the songs?

1979
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, you know, I definitely got the songs.

1980
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 3: But I think it's just important to be honest with

1981
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 3: your partner, you know, communicate. But but I think it's

1982
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 3: it's a it's a pretty interesting conversation. I try to

1983
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 3: stay out of if I don't have to. You know what, No,

1984
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 3: I don't even know what that is you putting me

1985
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 3: right now?

1986
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: Test a little bit, a.

1987
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: Little wax on it, a little pinky, put the pinky

1988
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: inside of hold on what you got something?

1989
01:19:54,280 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 2: It should be. I don't know where that is nothing

1990
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: that South Carolina the road thing that they do. It doesn't.

1991
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 2: I do not try that.

1992
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 16: That doesn't Your mom never told you you got to

1993
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 16: make it.

1994
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 4: Go drink gingerrels talking.

1995
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 16: About people everything, not earwax. Don't listen to him.

1996
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 8: That's what.

1997
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1998
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 16: Macarmo used to be like, go get some ginger and

1999
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 16: lay down.

2000
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 2: Wow about we love gingerrel around here.

2001
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 4: Did your therapist really tell you that you're too detached

2002
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 4: or that you don't commit?

2003
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 5: Nah?

2004
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 3: I think I think you know that bar for me.

2005
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 3: I have a colt writer, Busy Cruk, and he lives

2006
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 3: in Miami, great rapper. That was a bar that came

2007
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 3: from him. He's very deep into therapy. But I'm glad

2008
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,559
Speaker 3: that we talked about it on record because I mean

2009
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 3: it's something I definitely did try out over the pandemic

2010
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 3: and it's something that I actually really respect you a

2011
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: lot for a champion and.

2012
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: You know, but but but yeah, that was a that

2013
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 2: was a bar from Busy. But I thought it was

2014
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: important to add in there.

2015
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 16: You know, don't try to blame Busy now.

2016
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 6: Nah.

2017
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that's my code, Roger. You know,

2018
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

2019
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 3: Like, we we write a lot of our songs together,

2020
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 3: and I really respect a lot of the perspectives he

2021
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 3: brings to a lot of my poignant records.

2022
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 2: You know, you have some great bars for dancing with.

2023
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 18: When I listened to Dancing with the Demons, do you

2024
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 18: ever get like Miguel references sometimes?

2025
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm like.

2026
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 16: Oh my gosh, Like I wonder if like that, Like,

2027
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 16: are y'all do you know him?

2028
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2029
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like my big bro. We actually did a

2030
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 3: movie together. He was in Detroit when I had to

2031
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 3: cut my hair for he was. He was an amazing,

2032
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 3: amazing mentor for me for some years. You know that

2033
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 3: bridge between R and B and rock and roll, He's

2034
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 3: traveled across that bridge many a time. I definitely look

2035
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,640
Speaker 3: up to him when it comes to that. And you know,

2036
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 3: for me, because I played multiple instruments, you know, I

2037
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 3: definitely try to just embody a lot of that energy.

2038
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 3: But but I think we both have the same influences

2039
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 3: as well.

2040
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 14: I agree with Lauren on that Miguel to me before

2041
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 14: you was the last great R and B male R

2042
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 14: and B singer. To me, I'm just talk about the

2043
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 14: new guys. You know the legend I'm talking about. He

2044
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 14: was the last one to me. And I felt the

2045
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,560
Speaker 14: same way when I heard Dancer with the Demons. I

2046
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 14: feel like I feel like you're talking to yourself on

2047
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 14: that record. Though you said you can't seem to save yourself,

2048
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 14: never learn to ask for help going out all night

2049
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,560
Speaker 14: searching for a feeling. So so what what what have

2050
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 14: you learned to ask for.

2051
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 16: Help and so what I thought, I took it as

2052
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 16: it wasn't talking about a woman.

2053
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: Point.

2054
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's interesting for me, like that record.

2055
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 3: When I wrote it, I wrote it in two different days.

2056
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: The first day I was you know, micro dosan on shrooms,

2057
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 3: so it's a bit of a haze. The next day

2058
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 3: I listened to it and I was like, man, this

2059
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 3: is really poignant stuff. I mean, it's just really talking

2060
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 3: about being up all night and searching for a feeling,

2061
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 3: and it's trying to fill voids. I feel like, as uh,

2062
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: you know, when you're in your single journey, you can

2063
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 3: you can try to fill a void with a with

2064
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: a stranger and that's not always very healthy.

2065
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: And it could be fun.

2066
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,560
Speaker 3: It could be fun, for sure, But but but and

2067
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 3: then especially when you're when you're in the limelight. The

2068
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 3: second verse is more so talking about being in the

2069
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 3: limelight and trying to fill voice. Nobody really talks about

2070
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 3: the darkness that comes with the flashing lights. And yeah,

2071
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,839
Speaker 3: that that that record was very deep and very personal

2072
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 3: for me. You know, I'm glad that people resonate with it.

2073
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 13: Now you talk about Micaro Dosin on shrooms, but what

2074
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 13: does that put your mind and do you always do

2075
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 13: that to produce and write?

2076
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 7: Nah?

2077
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 3: Nah, I mean I think I think for this this album,

2078
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 3: it was an interesting opportunity to to kind of unplug.

2079
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't doing as many shows around that

2080
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 3: time too, so it was really helpful to to kind

2081
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 3: of just get into my own head and try to

2082
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 3: figure out who I am, you know. I I I

2083
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: definitely did a lot of manifest and a lot of

2084
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 3: just like writing down who I wanted to be as

2085
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 3: a human being around that time, a lot of journaling,

2086
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 3: you know, and looking back at that season in my life,

2087
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 3: it was it was a journey for me to evolve

2088
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 3: into who I am right now. I wouldn't suggest people

2089
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 3: just go super crazy on shrooms or anything, but I

2090
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 3: think microdosing, you know, a small amount, could be healthy

2091
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 3: if you're trying to just find yourself, you know.

2092
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 2: And at the time, I was trying to find myself,

2093
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 2: you know, micro do.

2094
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 16: You said you were trying to find yourself. Did you

2095
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 16: find yourself?

2096
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2097
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 3: But I mean I feel like that's a constant journey.

2098
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,799
Speaker 3: That's like the whole part of finding yourself. You realize

2099
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 3: it it never stops because we're always evolving, you know,

2100
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 3: but it's it's great that I was able to do

2101
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: it through music that that that was like a version

2102
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 3: of musical therapy for me, And I'm glad that people

2103
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 3: are resonating with it.

2104
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 7: You know.

2105
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 4: I love how you're normalizing dogs on but I'm not

2106
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 4: a dog anymore.

2107
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 14: There is a young, unhealed version of me that would

2108
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 14: have really appreciated that that record, because you make it

2109
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 14: sound so fun. It's almost like women are just gonna

2110
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 14: bring you in, like, oh, let me domesticate you.

2111
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 1: Nah.

2112
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 3: I mean I was really just documenting what I saw,

2113
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: but nah, nah nah, it's definitely.

2114
01:24:58,360 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 2: Its definitely talks to me.

2115
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 3: Post you know, post breakup, where where I just had

2116
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 3: to I just had to figure it out. But I

2117
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 3: think that's all a part of living, you know, you

2118
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 3: get nervous though. This is a post breakup album. Yeah,

2119
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,919
Speaker 3: this is a post breakup album. So this is me documenting,

2120
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 3: you know, finding myself first off, like you know, you

2121
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 3: you're you're kind of broken after that, and then you

2122
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 3: got to you gotta put the pieces back together.

2123
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 2: Her fault, Yes, No, it's not her fault.

2124
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 1: It's it's her fault that you ended up being a dog,

2125
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 1: you went through your own I think it's very commendable

2126
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: to that. On the song safe place, you let the

2127
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: person you're dealing with, no, this isn't a safe place.

2128
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think knowing that I wasn't

2129
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 3: necessarily ready to settle down. I think that conversation definitely

2130
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 3: came up a lot during I guess you would call

2131
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 3: them all face you know, just understanding like, yo, I'm

2132
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to settle down. This is a this

2133
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 3: is a fun place, you know. This is a a

2134
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 3: time period where I'm just figuring me out. Work is crazy,

2135
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 3: it's ecnic, you know, And I think having that conversation

2136
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 3: was important to, like you said, just avoid people not

2137
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 3: understanding what it was at the time.

2138
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 13: That's a personal because you're honest in music. But it's

2139
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 13: difficult to be face to face with somebody and be

2140
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 13: like it's very this is very difficult.

2141
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 7: You know.

2142
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 3: I really try my best to be as honest as

2143
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 3: I can, but yeah, those are hard conversations, man. You know,

2144
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 3: I can't sit here and say I've always done it

2145
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 3: right or I'm perfect or anything. But I try I

2146
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 3: try to be like real, you know, I try to

2147
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 3: explain myself. But even when you explain yourself, sometimes wires

2148
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 3: get crossed, you know. So I'm packing it and communicating,

2149
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 3: you know, it's an important thing later on.

2150
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 6: No woman want to hear that.

2151
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 4: She just lets you hit wrong.

2152
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's not as a woman ever

2153
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 18: said that to you when you were trying to like create,

2154
01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 18: like all right, maybe this is like a thing and

2155
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 18: she's like, yo, I.

2156
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 2: Don't want to do that.

2157
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2158
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 3: Actually yeah yeah. In my in my early twenties, I

2159
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 3: was talking to this amazing artist. Uh and yeah she

2160
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 3: was just like listen baby, the same safe place kind

2161
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 3: of thing.

2162
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 2: You know, anybody know that. She's like, no, no, no,

2163
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't think you got it up a little bit.

2164
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no no.

2165
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 3: It was all good for me at that point. But yeah, yeah,

2166
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: you know, it was definitely you know, it was definitely

2167
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 3: a realization for me. I was like, oh, it can

2168
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 3: happen on that side too. I was like twenty maybe twenty.

2169
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: One, you know. Yeah, yeah, so I was like real

2170
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 2: young green like, oh okay, alright, cool.

2171
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: So you're all looking for a relationship now if the

2172
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 3: right person, Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely I'm definitely.

2173
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: In that mode.

2174
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 6: Right now?

2175
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 16: Are you would you date other like artists celebrities or

2176
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 16: do you like, how does that work? Are you doing?

2177
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: It's just hectic.

2178
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you're kind of inviting the media into your

2179
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: life like the one safe place you have. But I mean,

2180
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 3: who knows if I really catch a vibe with somebody

2181
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: who happens to be fans. I mean, I don't really

2182
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: care about that side of things. You know, I've been

2183
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 3: in the game a long time. I've met some beautiful

2184
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 3: women who are amazing artists. But it's just about the

2185
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 3: human being and it can be tough to to really

2186
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 3: build something if both of your schedules are super hectic.

2187
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 14: I don't want to have a question two about another

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Speaker 14: record on far Fit. Yeah, you said, because he was

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Speaker 14: having a big conversation this week about Tricken Because you know,

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Speaker 14: Skip Bail is a legedly, Oh my god, for somebody

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Speaker 14: one point five million, and you say paid for my

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Speaker 14: mistakes and benes and diamonds two fifty fronted like you

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Speaker 14: was my autist. Five g's just across the Atlantic. We

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Speaker 14: sat in silence for almost two hours.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's a horrible BACA quarter million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, benzes and diamonds.

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, when I wrote that record, it was not

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Speaker 3: for me. That was not a joint that I was

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Speaker 3: originally gonna use for me. It was for somebody really

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Speaker 3: famous and really rich. But I just love the way

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Speaker 3: it sounded, and I was like, well, you know what,

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Speaker 3: I love to speak in a world where I can

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Speaker 3: actually afford that.

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Speaker 2: Why not let's manifest that.

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Speaker 1: No elucid dreams. You talk about your significant other leaving

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Speaker 1: things behind.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that was That was a fun record with Maseego

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Speaker 14: after a breakup. Why do you think that the topic

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Speaker 14: is taboo?

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Speaker 3: I don't really consider it taboo necessarily, but I think

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Speaker 3: it's just like it's just funny because for me, I

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Speaker 3: was living with my ex for like a couple of years,

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Speaker 3: so she just had like a closet filled with clothes

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Speaker 3: at my crib and it had been like a year

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Speaker 3: and a half since we were broken up. Uh, So

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Speaker 3: we were in the studio talking about different things.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The guitarist and producer on that song Freaky Rob his

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Speaker 3: girl left a flat screen at the house that he

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Speaker 3: had to use to watch Netflix. He was like, man,

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Speaker 3: when is she gonna take this flat screen? And uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, Masago also had a similar situation like that

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Speaker 3: at his crib with the couch. So we were all

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Speaker 3: just kind of using all of our different experiences putting

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Speaker 3: it into a song and you know, just locking it in.

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Speaker 4: It's different when it's closed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Did you clear you cleared out the class Yeah, definitely

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Speaker 3: clears out the h Yeah, clear.

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Speaker 2: Out the closet.

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Speaker 16: Did you move out of the apartment or you just

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Speaker 16: cleared out the closing.

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Speaker 2: Nah, I'm still at the crib, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: still at the crib.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's definitely a certain interior design choices I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna switch up, so but it's like real reason Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: The album is out right now. Make sure you pick

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Speaker 15: it up. And we appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: For joining us. Thank you so much for having me man,

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Speaker 2: it's a big opportunity. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 13: It's Leon Thomas the album What is out now and

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Speaker 13: it's The Breakfast Club. Good Morning Warning, Everybody's team Jay

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Speaker 13: and v Jesse, Larry Challaman, the guy we are The

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Speaker 13: Breakfast Club's time to get about.

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Speaker 2: They show them and you get a positive note down.

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Speaker 14: A positive noteice simply this, I swear because we were

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Speaker 14: talking about this earlier, about not being able to say no.

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Speaker 14: We were talking about a glorilla when the girl walked

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Speaker 14: up to her asking her for money, you know, for

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Speaker 14: her tuition. Nothing has caused more problems for me and

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Speaker 14: my life than my inability to say no or turn

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Speaker 14: people down. Soft and empathetic nature cost you a lot.

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Speaker 14: Remember that and know is a complete sentence. Have a

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Speaker 14: blessed date?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Now I like that.

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Speaker 10: When drive a queen's bone for that? Because this man

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Speaker 10: is right, breakfast cup, you don't finish her, y'all dump