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Speaker 1: te Bob Abert very very pleased, UH to be back

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Speaker 1: with you after missing yesterday. Aaron did an excellent job

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Speaker 1: Mr Aaron Murray. Aaron, what's up? Brother? First off, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a team effort here. It's a group collaboration, yourself, myself,

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Speaker 1: at midnight right now? Um? Alright, Look, so we got

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Speaker 1: talk about the playoff rankings last night. I have a

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Speaker 1: top twenty five playoff rankings last night, and oh my god,

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Speaker 1: to throw run be that Heisman guy does worry me

429
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Speaker 1: right now, Like, I don't think there's anyone playing with

430
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Speaker 1: more confidence in the country right now than Michigan and

431
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Speaker 1: USC right now, like they're playing with Yes, that's fair,

432
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Speaker 1: that's fair, But Ohio State still has I'm sure we'll

433
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Speaker 1: see in a couple of years, like objectively, like quite

434
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Speaker 1: a bit more NFL talent man to man on on

435
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Speaker 1: that route, Like when you're talking about the best rosters

436
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Speaker 1: in America, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, I think right teams.

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Speaker 1: I think USC has better offense. They've got Caleb Williams.

438
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Speaker 1: I like their offensive line better. I like the better

439
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Speaker 1: running game they get, the better receiver, I mean that

440
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Speaker 1: receivers a toss up, they both have receiver I'd say, yeah, no,

441
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Speaker 1: come on and mar Harrison and plus Jackson's been then

442
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Speaker 1: Jigma is gonna come back eventually, right Aaron, But he's

443
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Speaker 1: clearly right, clearly right there. USC's offense is the better offense.

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Speaker 1: Flip over to the defense. Michigan just housed Ohio State

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Speaker 1: and that defense so like I at least at us

446
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Speaker 1: seeking get turnovers. The sample size that we have seen

447
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Speaker 1: of Ohio State being bad is so much smaller than

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Speaker 1: the sample size that we've seen of USC struggling this

449
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Speaker 1: year with certain teams, and it's not Look, I am

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Speaker 1: a petite Closian boy, and I'm with you. In an

451
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Speaker 1: ideal world, they do want to be painfully clear by this.

452
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Speaker 1: In an ideal world, Um, the top four from this

453
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Speaker 1: week should be the top four next week, regardless of

454
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Speaker 1: what happens, like like if we're really gonna do this

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Speaker 1: thing subjectively, where the committee can say, okay, we decide

456
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Speaker 1: the foremost serving the four best teams. Don't punish these

457
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Speaker 1: teams for having to play while other teams get to

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Speaker 1: sit at home. I'm just saying that I think if

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Speaker 1: somebody is going to go in and and probably even TC,

460
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Speaker 1: you should already be in as well. Uh, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to play somebody USC for Ohio State, I I

462
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Speaker 1: do find that to be acceptable. Um. I think Ohio

463
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Speaker 1: States done enough. Um, Aaron, anything else on the playoffs?

464
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Speaker 1: You has Boo Corrigan texted you anymore? Uh? You know

465
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Speaker 1: any more company lines? Yes, that you have to carry

466
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Speaker 1: forward or anything to help out Nick Saban and carry

467
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Speaker 1: that man's water and try to get Alabama back jumping.

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Speaker 1: I do not want either team, and I want the

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Speaker 1: four teams that are in there now in the championship rounds.

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Speaker 1: That's it should be. No no, no discussion going forward. Yeah, yesh,

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Speaker 1: we at least agree on that. I'm still kind of

472
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Speaker 1: trying to scroll your old Twitter feed find the tweet

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Speaker 1: where you said that you were scared. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: find it. I can tell you I was trying to

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Speaker 1: dig through either of your old tweets. It's impossible. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a reply. It was it was. It was

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Speaker 1: a reply. I'm telling you, I'm zering in on it here.

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Speaker 1: It was a very sarcastic and now we remember. Someone

479
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Speaker 1: hit me back like are you scared of all I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course I am. Wink wink, yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Okay, dude,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna find it. Don't worry. Um say, Aaron is

482
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Speaker 1: not scared of Alabama? So you people, all right? Uh?

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Speaker 1: From the college football playoff to Hugh Freeze at Auburn

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Speaker 1: as Hugh Freezing. By the way, I'm not clear on

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Speaker 1: the timing of all this. I've spent the last four

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Speaker 1: to eight hours and just some sort of like weird

487
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Speaker 1: half conscious swirling a hole where I was only really

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Speaker 1: sentient for like two hours of a soccer game yesterday. UM.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly when the Hugh Freez thing

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Speaker 1: became official, but Hugh Freeze now at Auburn, and the

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Speaker 1: question is like, do you think that Hugh Freeze will

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Speaker 1: actually succeed on the planes? And I will say this, UM.

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Speaker 1: I thought Pat Forty had a very funny portion of

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Speaker 1: his breakdown of the Higher where he talked about how

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, maybe potential red flags for a higher.

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00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: Here he's about how Auburn had to hire a PR consultant, uh,

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Speaker 1: simply to help navigate the news that they wanted to

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Speaker 1: hire Freeze. Um. He also mentioned the alleged contract quirk

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Speaker 1: of few Freeze not being able to control his own

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Speaker 1: social media, which you Freeze has disputed, um though many

501
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Speaker 1: people have seemed to think it's true. And in that

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Speaker 1: article he says, quote as one source with Auburn tie

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Speaker 1: said Sunday, if he's can contractually obligated to stay off

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Speaker 1: social media and they had to hire an O ship

505
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Speaker 1: firm before he even started, is hiring him really a

506
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: good idea? Um? And And and so I I agree

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Speaker 1: with what that's getting at right. Auburn is a school

508
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Speaker 1: that has its own very volatile and a lot of

509
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Speaker 1: times toxic history in terms of expectations and how they

510
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: willingly blow things up and scandals. I mean even last

511
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Speaker 1: year trying to basically create a scandal out of thin

512
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Speaker 1: air with Brian Harson to get him fired. Um. They

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Speaker 1: have a very booster infused culture and then you have

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Speaker 1: you Freeze, who has a history of scandal and off

515
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: the field issues, and that's an incredibly volatile mix, right,

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Speaker 1: And so I could see this going awry because of

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Speaker 1: something that does not pertain to football all. But if

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Speaker 1: we are talking about just on the field, are and

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Speaker 1: I do feel like, yeah, I think you Freeze is

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Speaker 1: going to win games at Auburn. Now, this doesn't get

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Speaker 1: any of my personal feelings on the issue and whether

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00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: they gets right or not, But like, if you're just

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Speaker 1: asking me for an objective, like will he win or

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Speaker 1: not at Auburn at a level that Auburn fans team acceptable?

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Speaker 1: I think he probably will. Um he's always been a

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Speaker 1: good recruiter. I think he probably he still will be

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Speaker 1: UM now he legally can play players. And to me,

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Speaker 1: it's like when we looked at some of the hires

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Speaker 1: that worked UM from this last couple of coaching cycles. Right,

530
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Speaker 1: whether it's like Lance Leipold to Kansas or calin Debora, Washington.

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Speaker 1: These are guys who had one no matter what level

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Speaker 1: of football they coached at, right, and when they got

533
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: to a higher level, well, guess what they continue to win? Well, Freeze,

534
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: whether it was on high school, UM, small college, big college, sec. Like,

535
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: he won every level of football that he's been at.

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Speaker 1: So if he can keep his ship together off the field,

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Speaker 1: and if Auburn as a community can keep their ship

538
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Speaker 1: together off the field, I do think it should be

539
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Speaker 1: a good football higher I'm with you. I think he

540
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: can win football games. I'm more concerned about Auburn keeping

541
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: their ship together off the football field than Hugh Freeze. Uh, listen,

542
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: you you learned from your mistakes. We all screwed up

543
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: in our day. We've all made mistakes. We've all have

544
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: some skeletons in the closet. I I you know, you

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Speaker 1: know me and cancel culture. We've had this conversation te

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Speaker 1: Bob and certain things. What was the one thing that

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Speaker 1: I swear swear many was it minivans? I saw it said,

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Speaker 1: was that has gone out of style is campans. Hey,

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Speaker 1: my buddy just actually gotten a brand new Kia Mini

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Speaker 1: van and it is decked out. I'm like, oh shared,

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00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: let's go all right anyways, I digress, cancel culture. I'm

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00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: all for a comeback. I'm all for someone getting another opportunity.

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00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that obviously has had success

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Speaker 1: in this league. Uh, you alluded to it. He can

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00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: recruit at a high level. You look at Auburn right

556
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: now and how they're situated to have success, brand new facility.

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00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to talk about all the

558
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Speaker 1: bells and whistles of what do the big boys have? Uh,

559
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: And I'll just talk to about Georgia in this case,

560
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: and you can you can throw in Alabama here too.

561
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: They got great facilities, they got great coaches, the ability

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Speaker 1: to recruit, and they got an I L through the wazoo.

563
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Like those kids are getting paid stupid amounts of money.

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Speaker 1: Albert all of a sudden has that they have a

565
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Speaker 1: brand new facility that can compete with anyone in the SEC.

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Speaker 1: They have a very ferral area that they can recruit to.

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Speaker 1: They can they can recruit in the state of Alabama

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Speaker 1: obviously that you're not gonna get maybe the same guys

569
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Speaker 1: Bama gets, but you can still get some top talent.

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00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: You can dip into the state of Georgia bring guys

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Speaker 1: over there to your roster as well. You got the coach,

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Speaker 1: and you've got a war chest when it comes to

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Speaker 1: an I L two to be able to, like you

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Speaker 1: just alluded, to pay these players to come to the university,

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Speaker 1: whether it's through the transfer portal or through the high

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Speaker 1: school ranking. So I think Auburn is situated in a

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Speaker 1: in a in a in a spot right now that

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Speaker 1: they now on they're going to win games with Hugh Freeze.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna win fast. I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm interesting what he does in the portal starting next week,

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Speaker 1: what players he gets uh to to solidify his lineup.

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Speaker 1: He's got to get a quarterback. And if I'm the

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Speaker 1: n I L group, if I'm this fifteen million dollar entity,

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Speaker 1: that how's all this money? What am I doing? If

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Speaker 1: I'm Auburn, I'm gonna go pick the top quarterback out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna guarantee you a million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year if you come play quarterback at Auburn and

588
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: what did we see at USC as soon as Caleb

589
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Williams committed to USC? What did that? And introduce the

590
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: introduced a top running back from Stanford and then I

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Speaker 1: introduced the top receiver in the country from Pittsburgh. If

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Speaker 1: you can go get the top quarterback, pay him to

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Speaker 1: come there, and then bring in talent around him, this

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Speaker 1: is a team that can have success right away saying

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do what USC did the Trojans and compete

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Speaker 1: for for a playoff spot. But all as I think

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Speaker 1: you could, you can change your roster to be a

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Speaker 1: competitor in the SEC year one, and I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: expecting them to to fight for that a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I I I think, Um, it's like you said in

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Speaker 1: like if Kelly's winning and year one at l s

641
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: U winning the sc West after taking over broken situation?

642
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think this is kind of

643
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: funny be being in the chat says Freeze will do

644
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: slightly better than mails On. That is kind of One

645
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 1: of the funny things about this is that Aaron, here

646
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: we are what how much is it for? Who? Who's

647
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: done the map? Maybe from you could you could find

648
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: a quick Google search here? Well, I just have in

649
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: my head around eighty million dollars to get Gus miles

650
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: On out of there, get Brian Harson out of there.

651
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: Like however much money Auburn has spent over the last

652
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: three or four years uh eighty to a hundred million dollars,

653
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: it is very funny to me that when it's all

654
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: said and done, you fired Gus males On to basically

655
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: end up with Gus males On. Like Hugh Freeze at

656
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: Gus males On are very similar coaches. They were both

657
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: high school coaches who have known each other for years.

658
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: They used to share offensive philosophies and plays all the time.

659
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: They've talked about this on record at length in the past.

660
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Remember it was Hugh Freeze who was head coach at

661
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: Arkansas State before he left for Old Miss only be

662
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: to replace, but Gus Melson who became head coach at

663
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: Arkansas State. And now it is Gus mals On leaving

664
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Auburn only to be replaced by Hugh Freze who was

665
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: now joining Auburn. And and it's like, it's like, man,

666
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: where would Auburn b right now if they had just

667
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: stuck with Gus like Michigan did with Jim Harbaugh right

668
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: where Harball went through a valley there where it looked

669
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: really bad and he was being too stun burn and

670
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: refused to change with the times and all these sorts

671
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: of things, and it was time to run him out

672
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: of there, but the Michigan administration decided they didn't want to.

673
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: And where they got lucky because they said they didn't

674
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: want to because of money, or if they really believed

675
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: in him. It has now worked out either way. I

676
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: think it'd just be impossible as an Auburn fan to

677
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: sit there and uh feel good about all the money

678
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: that you spent to basically turn Guss miles On into

679
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze, because I think they're both good. Like I

680
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: think Gus miles On is a great coach. Look he

681
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: is UCF playing for an A a C championship. My

682
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: point is, you went through a lot of drama. You

683
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: toxified your brand and your reputation and drove it into

684
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: the ground. And at the end of the day, it

685
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: feels like you made a lateral move. Uh When when When? When?

686
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: When all the chips have followen where they may well,

687
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: they should have never got rid of Gus in the

688
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: first place. Uh, It's just that just shows you the

689
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: expectations are a little bit too high there at Auburn

690
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: that you move on from a guy that was competitive

691
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: in that lead, that took you to a championship, that

692
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: beats a been and you know, good for him though

693
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: he got paid, he's now at UCF and having a

694
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: good time living life there in Disney World. Um, I

695
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: I think right now for all Burn, I want to

696
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: go back to your point of like, what what are

697
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: the expectations because of the success of some of some

698
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: of these other coaches across the country, whether it is

699
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: you know they're at L s U or at USC

700
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: because the transport, or you look what Lane Kiffin's done.

701
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: You know, Lane Kiffin has built consistency at All Miss

702
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: because of the portal and eight win team again this year,

703
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: ten win team last year. So I do think that

704
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: there is a sentiment there at Auburn like, Okay, here's

705
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: the money, here's the facility, go out there and make

706
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: us contenders year one. I think to me, I think

707
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: I think it can happen. I don't think we're looking

708
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: at the next coming of an L s U. I don't.

709
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: I don't expect them to all of a sudden be

710
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: a team that you know it's gonna be in Atlanta

711
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: next year. I do think you're going to run into

712
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: a couple of issues. One, the SEC West is to

713
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: be good next year once again, you know, Alabama ain't

714
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I think right now, what what Brian Kelly

715
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: is building at l s U is going to be

716
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: stupid good. It's gonna last for a long long time.

717
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: You got those two teams to contend with, who both

718
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: have headstarts. Lane Kiffin is is fully committed to Old

719
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: Miss and he's only going to continue to build that roster.

720
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: And he's better at the game than you are. When

721
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: it comes to the transfer portal um in in A

722
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: and M. Who knows. I mean, maybe these five star

723
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: guys that have you know, shocked the world last week

724
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: could beat L s U. Maybe they building our confidence

725
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: and then maybe maybe they have a good year next

726
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: year and maybe uh they bring in a new O C.

727
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they have the talent. So there's

728
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: a lot going against them, but they will be a

729
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: team that will be extremely competitive because of the resources

730
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: they have in the head coach they have. Yeah, man,

731
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: I hate that we even to give A and M

732
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: the time of day. And this is why it's so

733
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: bad that l s U lost that sweet because because

734
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: you're right, like, it has given them that oticum of

735
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: hope to hold onto or otherwise we would not even

736
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: considered A and M in that equation because we just

737
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: watched him go one and six and they were awful. Um,

738
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: Blake Walters is talking in the chat about Hugh Freezes.

739
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: He has one tin win season Ole Miss, and people

740
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: are acting like he's the next Save and he's a

741
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: good coach, but expectations are way too high. Well, I mean, well, okay, look,

742
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: the question of expectations is interesting, um, and we get

743
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: to that in a second. But I think I would

744
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: point out that his resume is more than just one

745
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: tin win season at Old Miss. Now the tin in

746
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: three year in which they won the Sugar Bowl, Like, yes,

747
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,479
Speaker 1: that was by far his best season at All Miss.

748
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: But he's eighty three and forty three overall. It's a

749
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: very good winning percentage. He's six and two in bowl

750
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: games as a college head coach. Um, He's won at

751
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: least ten games uh in a year at every college

752
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: that he's been to. So like, yeah, I I I

753
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: think it's more than just one tin win season Ole Miss. Now,

754
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: that said, but it's Old missed too, though, Like let's

755
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: let's let's talk like this that he didn't win ten

756
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: games at Alabama or Auburn or Georgia or l s

757
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: U or Tennessee, like he did it at a place

758
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: that traditionally doesn't win games like that. Um, so I

759
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: think that, to me is always the most impressive thing,

760
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: Like what Lane did last year at Old Miss. To

761
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: win that many games is kind of like wow, like

762
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: you could go to a place, Which is why I

763
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: still think Lane should have probably jumped ship and taken

764
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: this job, and and and obviously he didn't. But there's

765
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: certain ten win season is not the same at every university.

766
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: Ten wins at George is not the same as ten

767
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: wins at Mississippi State or Old Miss. That is a

768
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: whole different level of excelling with less resources. So I

769
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: do let's say that into a consideration. He now is

770
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: at a place that's and why I've been saying the

771
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: whole reason for the past month and a half two

772
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: months why Lane should jump ship and move the Auburn

773
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: is because they have more They have more money to

774
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: pay code just they have more money to pay assistance.

775
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: They have more n I opportunities to pay the players.

776
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: They have better facilities, better ability to recruit. So now

777
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: that he has that, let's see what he can do.

778
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Let's not give him the opportunity. He's well equipped. How

779
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: good of a coach is he? And you know what,

780
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: the other day they moved on from Gus. They went

781
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: outside the box. It didn't work out most people. I

782
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: guarantee you had no idea who who who the previous

783
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: head coach even was. If you had to put them

784
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: in front of a line up in front of most

785
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,959
Speaker 1: of the fans, it probably could have pick him out.

786
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: They got a guy that is from the good old

787
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: boy crew, playing and simple, he is one of them.

788
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: He is auburn, he has that uh fradish mentality. I

789
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: guess you could say that's that's that's that's one of

790
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: their like. But he's one of them though I I

791
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: to me, I mean, look and again that one of

792
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 1: the biggest things will be can they avoid any off

793
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: field issue. I have to fathom that Hugh Freeze is

794
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: not going to screw up and step into scandal. Like

795
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: if you step into scandal. After all of this, the

796
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: amount of hubrists and just sheer self conceit Uh, it's staggering.

797
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: So so like with that in mind, though maybe I'm naive,

798
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: Maybe I am naive, but like I have to imagine

799
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: he's not going to get into trouble off the field.

800
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: Whether or not he can live up to national championship

801
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: expectations that I'm not so sure about. I am sure

802
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: he will be much better in terms of wins and

803
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: losses than Brian Harson was. Um, Brian Harson was kind

804
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: of a disaster from day one. I guess too. Man.

805
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: You know what bugs me the most about Free It's

806
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: like we talked about the other day. It's not the

807
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: it's not UM paying for um um sex workers or

808
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: anything like that, like it more ethical Like to me,

809
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: it's some of the stories about when he was the

810
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: old like high school administrator. Because I don't know, Man,

811
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: I into a school like that, and I've seen so

812
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: many of those guys that are just absolute grease balls

813
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: and they just wrapped themselves up in these like cloaks

814
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: of faith and forgiveness, and it's just like, ah, I

815
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: don't know, I've seen a lot of those guys and

816
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 1: they rubbed me the wrong way. Um. But but but again,

817
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: as I said, all personal interaction that I have had

818
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: with you, Freeze has actually been very positive. It's just

819
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: that a lot of these stories don't line up with

820
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, you know why, why why would I have

821
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,959
Speaker 1: had any reason for them not to be. I suppose, um,

822
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: so maybe a combustible mix, but on the field should

823
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: be pretty good. I suppose I just just uh no,

824
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,479
Speaker 1: I just I was just I just noticed you're shut

825
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 1: pretty badass shirt. You're right. Check it out, dude. Click

826
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: the merch link snaps twenty. Even though I think I

827
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: have coffee stains on it from this morning. I had

828
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: a day. I was in bumper to bumper traffic. I

829
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: was still feeling pretty sick. I was like sweating, spilled

830
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: coffee in my lap, bumped the car in front of me,

831
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: like looking down at the coffee get out. Ther styrons

832
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: are blaring, there's like an accident ahead. The sun wasn't

833
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: even up yet. I felt like I was like, I'm

834
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: just pouring sweat, feeling miserable. Then I get to work,

835
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm about to start the show. I go to take

836
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: a sip and I pour coffee all down the front

837
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: of my shirt. Just a freaking day, dude. But we're

838
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: making we're making it um all right, last on the

839
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: least um So, Deon Sanders is back the news once

840
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: again as uh, Colorado is offered Dion the head coaching job.

841
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Donnell is a local TV man from Tampa, your

842
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: neck of the woods there Aaron Murray and Kevin tweeted

843
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: that Dion Sanders has been telling recruits he will be

844
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: at a school on Sunday. Decision appears to be down

845
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: to Colorado, Cincinnati and USF. Look, you just saw I

846
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: and and and potentially this is true. You know, you

847
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: just saw it with soccle off. Though. The TV reporters

848
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: are always the one that love to run with these

849
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: type of reports, more so than the old school news

850
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: and Prince guys. So for whatever that is worth, they're

851
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: saying that Dion on Sunday. Uh, Kevin O'Donnell is is

852
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: saying that he'll be choosing basically between Colorado, Cincinnati and Usfuh.

853
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: For for whatever this is worth, Kevin also tweeted, Kevin

854
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: all I know. Kevin also tweeted he's been told, quote,

855
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: don't sleep on Jamie Chadwell and Liberty. So that's the

856
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: Liberty connection I was talking about earlier, um Kevin O'Donnell

857
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: also saying that's potentially in the works, which I feel

858
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: like Jamie Chadwell is way cooler than Liberty, But I

859
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: don't know whatever resources that's that's that's the issue, Like

860
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: talking to people, you know, he was pay no, like,

861
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: will commit to paining He yes, he will pay players,

862
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: pay his coaches like no, no. If Jerry Fowl is

863
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: not gonna have any problem committing resources, Um, I just

864
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: evolved a jump so that I thought Jamie Chadwell was

865
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: gonna make and then a champion four. I just really

866
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: hope that Liberty isn't the spot that he lands in.

867
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, Aaron Colorado, Cincinnati and us why man

868
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: Jack does he exactly does he want to leave Jackson

869
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: State that bad that he's willing to take any Like

870
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: to me, that's like a almost a little bit too desperate,

871
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: Like why did you take the job in the first place.

872
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: You wanted to champion UM and get Jackson State and

873
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: and those communities and those schools uh to a different level.

874
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: And you've done a great job. And I think he's

875
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: obviously what they're doing a jack State this year has

876
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: been tremendous but I just think, like, why take a

877
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: job at those schools? But maybe you can wait a

878
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: year or to continue to have this cauccess you're having

879
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: at Jackson State, continue to to drive home the initiative

880
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: initiatives that you're working on, and then wait for a

881
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: better job and and in a in a footprint that

882
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: fits you more. Like Dion to Colorado, really, Dion to

883
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati USF. I know it's my hometown team, but like,

884
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I know? No, no, just

885
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: just wait, Deond A better job will come open in

886
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: the next year or two, don't I Well, it's like

887
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: it's it's funny that you zeroed in on USF because

888
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: to me too, I'm thinking about like the impact that

889
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: Dion is having at Jackson State and on hbc U

890
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: s in general, and the fact that Jackson State hadn't

891
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: played a game on ESPN since nine nine when he

892
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: got there, and now they've played multiple games in national TV.

893
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: They even had College Game Day. We talked about the

894
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: deals that he's struck with Walmart to build new facilities.

895
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: We talked about the publicity that he brought to the Jackson,

896
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: Mississippi water crisis, like he's had and and I mean

897
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: it looks other guys like Q Jackson and others joining

898
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: the HBCU Travis Hunter getting big time recruits, like like

899
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: really having a positive impact beyond what you can normally

900
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: do as a college football head coach, and to give

901
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: all that up to try to help South Florida win

902
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: an a a C championship that just tastes like shit.

903
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: I I really hope that that is not in the

904
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: future now. I do want to be clear about this.

905
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: I I don't feel it's also fair for maybe to

906
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: me to paint Dion into this corner of having to

907
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: be like, well, look at what a positive impact you're having,

908
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: are you gonna bail on that community? Because guess what,

909
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: Deon's going far more for that community than any of

910
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: us ever had. But but but but I do just

911
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: like outside looking in, I would still hope that he

912
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: would um that when he did make that jump, it

913
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: would be to a bigger and more prestigious and more

914
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of worth it job. And so I guess it's like, Okay, Well,

915
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: the question is, then, Aaron, what do you think does

916
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: he have to make a smaller jump before the large one? Right?

917
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: Does he have to go to a Colorado or I'm

918
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: taking uc USFL. Does you have to go to a

919
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: Colorado or a Cincinnati UM before he can get to

920
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: a Texas or Oklahoma Or do you think that one

921
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: of the big boys would come calling UM right out

922
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: of Jackson State. I would think a big boy would

923
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: come calling. I mean, like look at alb for example,

924
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: Like that was a rumor. Obviously it didn't happen, and

925
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: who knows how how genuine that really was. But like

926
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: I think he could get a smaller group of five

927
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: school that is still better situated to have success than

928
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: than the other schools that we're talking about right now.

929
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: I just to me, it feels like there was a

930
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: lot of talk about Dion in Georgia Tech Dion to

931
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: Auburn and neither happened, and maybe he was starting to

932
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: get a little bit It's like, hey man, I'm about

933
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: to take the next step in my career. May I'm

934
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: about to leave, you know, like you said, like what

935
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: I've done here is incredible. I don't think anyone can

936
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: get mad at him for for leaving to move on

937
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: and take that next step in his career as a

938
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: head coach. So I want to put that out of

939
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: the conversation. But I think for him there was a

940
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: level of excitement of taking that next step and moving

941
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: on and having the opportunity to coach at a parify school,

942
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: And when that didn't happen, he kind of sat back

943
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: and like, damn, that kind of stinks, Like I was

944
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: really looking forward to that. Well, let me go see

945
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: what else is out there. So I think it's him

946
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: wanting to take a step forward and a little bit

947
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: of impatience going on right now because of he kind

948
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: of tasted it a little bit and it was rumored

949
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: and the feelings were there. Um, But I just to

950
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: me for him, I think if he if he did

951
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: stay another year and more openings occurred next season and

952
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,959
Speaker 1: he can see new to have success, he could jump

953
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: into a better situation. But if I had to choose

954
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: one of the three, I think since a position to

955
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: have more success. Since he's about to go to the

956
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: Big twelve, my bad. That was that was my That

957
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: was my whole separating factor. There was Colorado be Power five.

958
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: I forgot, Cincinnati is about to be Power five as well.

959
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: They're about and he's about to go. They're about to

960
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: go Big twelve without Texas about Oklahoma so, and they've

961
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: already built a winning culture with Fickle there. I think

962
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: he could jump in. There's town on the roster already.

963
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: To me, I would take since over the other schools. Definitely, USF,

964
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: Like USF is such a odd ball in this whole

965
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: conversation right now. Uh sincenati Colorado. If if there was

966
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 1: an opportunity, let's go to Sinse Yeah, I would, Okay,

967
00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean you know I could think yeah, would you up?

968
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: Now that you know these are the three options presented,

969
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: It looks like Mike Norvell is having success at Florida State.

970
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: What do you think the ideal job that Dion should

971
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: wait for? Res like? Obviously these three are kind of

972
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: man if you have what's I mean, what's all we do?

973
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: This is our one user words because we're of course

974
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: we're at a time. Um. But what do you think

975
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: the ideal deon Deon Sanders landing spot is? M hm uh,

976
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: I thought I thought Georgia Techer or Auburn would have

977
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: been perfect. Not Auburn. You cannot sit here and say that,

978
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: youth all that Auburn would have been perfect for prime.

979
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: The only thing that works the prime prime to the

980
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: planes sounds good, But besides that, dude, are you kidding me?

981
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: The school? Go watch that Will Herring video vouching for

982
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze and tell me that Dion Sanders would have

983
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: fitted Auburn. I don't. I don't know about that, bro,

984
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't know about that one.

985
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: She if I was Dion, I get asked down to Miami. Okay,

986
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Florida state, you want to stick with Mike Norvell. Well,

987
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm about to become a problem for you. Uh, put

988
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: me in Miami, get rid of christophrog just want over

989
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 1: christ the ball. You just want Chris Baul Like, no,

990
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: go coach, That's what's what you want. No. I was

991
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: told to use my words, and as we're talking it

992
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: out loud, Uh, he would kill it in Miami. I

993
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: was actually thinking about like other like big badass cities,

994
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: because Diana's prime time and I feel like he needs

995
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: like a prime stage to shine and yeah, man, like

996
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: Tech in Atlanta. That kind of feels like he was

997
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: a little bit there, but he feels like a way

998
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 1: better fit to me holding it down in South Beach. Yeah,

999
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: that's like that. I think I think you hit it

1000
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: on the nail on the head there to like, he's

1001
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: just this big personality. They're like, none of the schools

1002
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: in that list to me, fit that personality, like Colorado,

1003
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: Cincinnati in USF don't move the needle to me, and

1004
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: that is not who he is. Like, I just feel

1005
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: like he is prime time and he deserves to be

1006
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: in the spotlight, and he deserves to be in a

1007
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: place that is a Miami esque or being in Atlanta,

1008
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: or being in a place like Auburn that is a

1009
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, always talked about and always has the drama,

1010
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: and he's he is. He has made for TV person

1011
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: You can't say and Auburn Alabama, No, but you can't.

1012
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: You can't throw on alb reality TV. Auburn is reality TV.

1013
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean you can make a whole you know, you

1014
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: know whatever it is on the NFL. They do the

1015
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: preseason show whatever behind the scenes with like yellow Wood

1016
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: and Alburn and the boosters and the fans, and it

1017
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: would be great entertainment with with him. You're talking about

1018
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: like hard hard knocks, Yeah, hard knocks, Yeah, Colorado, Blair, Cincinnati, Blair, USFL,

1019
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: Like they don't move the needle, like they don't scream

1020
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: Prime time. I want prime time to be in prime time?

1021
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: Brom do you agree with my Miami take? Do you

1022
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: have a better school for Dion? I don't. I wish

1023
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: I did, but really I think that I think those

1024
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: brands match up well. I mean, now the for state,

1025
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: you're not getting any of the real sexy sexy jobs. Um,

1026
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: I I don't really have a good one unless you know,

1027
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: Wayne took Oklahoma and he went to oldness. That would

1028
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 1: also be fun for a lot of reasons. Oh d okay,

1029
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 1: Kiffin would be fun. That's like, that's the best pay.

1030
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: But I don't have an obvious one. But we have

1031
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: to go because Aaron has a radio show in three minutes.

1032
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: What for real you do? Oh? I don't know? Real

1033
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: for real, for real, for real? Um okay, look, thank

1034
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: you all so much for joining us. Uh once again.

1035
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: Um everybody in the chat. D we'se b O M.

1036
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: Barts of Dilla Meadows, Rob d A Barge, BB, Derek Waller, Thomas,

1037
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: there all y'all man hanging out this every single day.

1038
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: We love you all so much. So happy to be back.

1039
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm finally regaining my footing. Oh my god,

1040
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel good again, boys, But huge thank

1041
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: you to Aaron Murray. Huge thank you to Ryan Brumley,

1042
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: Paul Farrington, Pat Gunter, Daniel Cardinez all the wonderful people

1043
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: of the Volume Sports Network to make this show happen.

1044
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: Huge thank you to Uncle Colin right Um for giving

1045
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Speaker 1: us some sweet baby gear for new Snaps babies. Huge

1046
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: thank you to Fandel for for you know, being the

1047
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1049
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Speaker 1: Apple Spotify wherever, uh please rad to review its share

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Speaker 1: with your friends. Super pumped it is. Spotify wrapped a season.

1052
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: Very excited I did next year to see how many

1053
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: of y'all have uh Snaps on your top five most

1054
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. In fact, I'm willing to promise some

1055
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: sort of prize next year to everyone who sends us

1056
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: a screenshot of Snaps being in their top five podcasts.

1057
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Speaker 1: So uh, that hemy kind of thing. I love Spotify

1058
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Speaker 1: raps is I really truly do. And I love all

1059
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Speaker 1: of you, and you Aaron and everybody else. We'll see

1060
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Speaker 1: you tomorrow for more snaps,