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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This

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Speaker 1: is Frosted Tips with Me and my beautiful husband, Turkey Turchin.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello there, mister Lance.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Nice.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for our guests today, Trevor Guthrie on this show.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in quite a while. I know

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Speaker 1: last time we saw him he was here for the

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Speaker 1: Grammys when he was nominated.

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Speaker 2: For This is what it feels like Van Buren.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see what's he he's been up to.

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Speaker 2: We also have another interesting story with him, which we'll

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Speaker 2: get into.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we got Oh that's right. The last time

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Speaker 1: we saw him, something major went down at the house.

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Speaker 1: It was very traumatic for me for you Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that story.

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Speaker 2: I had to go on the lamb.

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Speaker 1: Literally, big shout out to the listeners out there, especially

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Speaker 1: the ones that are doing boy Band Break. We see

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Speaker 1: you out there, Thanks so much for that podcast. They

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Speaker 1: do all kinds of fun boy band things over there,

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Speaker 1: so go check them out at boy Band Break. But

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Speaker 1: they recap some of this stuff that we do on

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Speaker 1: this show too.

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Speaker 2: So I know we've made it. Babe.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: We have a recap show of our show.

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Speaker 1: I love it. What else has been going on? I

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Speaker 1: mean the kids? Okay, what milestone are we at?

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Speaker 2: Now? Oh boy, what milestone are we at? They are

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Speaker 2: as active as ever.

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Speaker 1: They're definitely more huggy now, Oh that, yes, that is

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Speaker 1: a big They like to come up and give you

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Speaker 1: a hug and a little.

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Speaker 2: Kiss, which is honestly heaven on Earth.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is so Alexander loves to hug right, yes,

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Speaker 1: but he also loves to wrestle, and his sister doesn't

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Speaker 1: know if it's going to be a hug or he's

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Speaker 1: going to throw her to the ground. So every time

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Speaker 1: he tries to lovingly hug her, she's like, no, I.

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Speaker 3: Know, And he loves to go up to her and

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Speaker 3: just give her the biggest hugs. She will cry and

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Speaker 3: scream like he's about to murder her because honestly, she

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Speaker 3: doesn't know.

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Speaker 2: He could be trying to try the.

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Speaker 1: Body slammer down to the ground like he thinks he's

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Speaker 2: I know, I know he's just playing, but she's like,

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Speaker 2: don't play with me.

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Speaker 1: I know, well else he's got to learn. I guess

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Speaker 1: she's gonna be a She's gonna be able to deal with.

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Speaker 2: A lot with him. He's gonna be like Xena Warrior Princess.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're gonna have Trevor Guthrie. Trevor, all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. I am super excited to welcome our next guest,

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Speaker 1: Canadian singer songwriter Trevor Guthrie. He's a vocalist who first

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Speaker 1: came to the prominence as a member of the band's

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Speaker 1: his youth took up guitar while in high school. After

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Speaker 1: their sophomore album, Soul Decision called it quits and Guthrie

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Speaker 1: pursued a solo career. In twenty thirteen, Guthroy guested on

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Speaker 1: the artist Armin van Buren's album Intent, singing the song

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Speaker 1: that we all love This is what It Feels Like,

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Speaker 1: a Grammy nominated Also, Trevor, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having men excited.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, the fans have really been begging you to

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Speaker 1: come on this show, So I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: all your social media's, but you came and I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad you're here. The last time we saw you, you

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Speaker 1: were over at the house. When I think you're in

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Speaker 1: town for the Grammys, I think, yeah, yeah, so myan God,

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Speaker 1: that was like years ago. But it was so because

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Speaker 1: it was such an intense day, especially for Turkey here.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's set the story. So our friend, this

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Speaker 1: is when marijuana was not legal in California except to

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Speaker 1: So my friend grew plants for the dispensaries, and so

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Speaker 1: So you're over there and then the helicopter, the cop

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Speaker 3: I was already so whatever about having on a roof

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Speaker 3: We had the helicopters all of a sudden, lap Deiss

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Speaker 2: Yes. What's what's funny is though, because when we came,

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Speaker 2: you're showing me all these plants. Oh yeah, which which

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Speaker 2: is funny because what you didn't know about me is

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Speaker 2: And then like you say, the helicopter start flowing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they wouldn't stop circling the house. So then

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Speaker 2: Well we ran out the back, yeah, and thinking they

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Speaker 3: Then me and my friend Ti, who was also at

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Speaker 2: And then what's funny is that night I think you

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, this is the opposite of

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Speaker 2: It's like, wow, I've never actually seen one of these, Like, well,

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Speaker 1: Happen, right, So all right, Trevi. So you've had a

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Speaker 2: Well see, I wrote that song for Armon right that

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Speaker 2: Just keep doing what you're doing, like you're a marine man,

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Speaker 2: Let us put some money into it. In a fine okay,

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Speaker 2: Which was a good thing because, as you know, you

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Speaker 1: Are you doing the major label thing now? Are you

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Speaker 2: Now? It's a different era, yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and for radio too, Like I'm still you know,

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Speaker 2: But it is definitely not necessary. If you can, if

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what's happening with Jake right now. You know

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Speaker 2: He doesn't really need to. But I also believe at

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Speaker 2: I mean, you definitely have some advantages to having that

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Speaker 1: How did you come up with the name Sole Decision

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Speaker 2: I think it worked that way, but we were proud

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. That was a song I think

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Speaker 1: You who were your influences for that song?

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Speaker 2: I just when I go to club When I was

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Speaker 1: I wrote it, right, So it worked, you know exactly.

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Speaker 1: Well Faded came out that was two thousand with No

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Speaker 1: One does a Better album. It immediately goes to number

433
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Speaker 1: one in Canada. Huge here in the States.

434
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Speaker 2: Also.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so after all these years like a working

436
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,560
Speaker 1: together and it finally like quote unquote paid off. What

437
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Speaker 1: were you thinking at that moment? Where did where did

438
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Speaker 1: you think everything was gonna head?

439
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Speaker 2: I mean I just remember walking on stage for our

440
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Speaker 2: first show in Vancouver and like I started to sing Faded,

441
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Speaker 2: and everybody sang it and like they just started to win.

442
00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,000
Speaker 2: That gets you out and I'm like, oh my gosh.

443
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Speaker 2: I looked at Dave. I'm like, oh wow, this is crazy,

444
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Speaker 2: Like I think we're gonna make it, you know, like

445
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Speaker 2: this this is it, Like We're we're gonna make it

446
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,919
Speaker 2: because you get when you write that song and you

447
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,560
Speaker 2: get that human connection and you say something that people

448
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Speaker 2: want to sing back to you. It's like, that's that's

449
00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 2: difficult to do, right. So I think that was the

450
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Speaker 2: moment that, you know, I realized that, yeah, we're onto

451
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Speaker 2: something because it's connecting. And it did. And that was

452
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Speaker 2: the first show and we did hundreds of shows after that,

453
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Speaker 2: took us around around the world. It was a crazy ride.

454
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Speaker 1: He also said, you wanted to create a no skips album,

455
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Speaker 1: which people don't know. That means you don't skip to

456
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Speaker 1: the next song. Do you feel like you created that?

457
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Speaker 1: I said that, yes, that you did. You're right, Is

458
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Speaker 1: it a no album today?

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Speaker 2: Right? I would say so. I mean I wouldn't say

460
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Speaker 2: this hit after hit every here. We had six singles

461
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Speaker 2: deep in Canada. But yeah, like I grew up listening

462
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Speaker 2: to like George Michael albums and Wham and stuff like that, Duran,

463
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Speaker 2: Duran and Tears of Few Years and for me, I

464
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Speaker 2: remember those albums like that you could just play the

465
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Speaker 2: whole album. Every song was good. So with the first

466
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Speaker 2: Soul Decision album, I mean, we had like a good

467
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Speaker 2: ten years to write those so, I mean I had

468
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Speaker 2: a lot of songs that I had written. I was

469
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Speaker 2: trying to make them all singles. You know, sometimes that

470
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Speaker 2: doesn't happen. But if you put that effort in, you

471
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Speaker 2: can get those songs that at least are catchy and

472
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Speaker 2: they're listenable. Right.

473
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Speaker 1: That's something yeah, that I guess people don't really remember

474
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Speaker 1: is your freshman album is sometimes like artists like yourself

475
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Speaker 1: that have been spending ten years getting your favorite songs

476
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Speaker 1: together and really you know, working out. So your first

477
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Speaker 1: album is pretty set a large selection. Yeah, there's software

478
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 1: albums where it gets a little tricky because then you

479
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Speaker 1: have less time to put things together.

480
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Speaker 2: And that's put it out.

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Speaker 1: That's where a lot of people just kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: fade out. It's because like, oh, I didn't get to

483
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Speaker 1: spend so much time on that second album, and I

484
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Speaker 1: think that's your most important album. Do you have any

485
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Speaker 1: favorite No Skips albums? You have like some inspiration on

486
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Speaker 1: the no Skips?

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Speaker 2: The ones I just mentioned, I'm going back eighties like

488
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Speaker 2: Tears of Fires, song for the Big Chair was amazing,

489
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Speaker 2: Duran Durand's great, George Michael Faith, I mean, that's just

490
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Speaker 2: an incredible Turkey.

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Speaker 1: What's your and you have? You have to have some

492
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Speaker 1: good not Skip albums.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I only bought obviously obviously.

494
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Speaker 1: That's one another great Canadian.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it's the first album I ever got and it's

496
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Speaker 3: totally a no Skip of course.

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Speaker 2: No Spice Girl first album. Let me tell you every

498
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Speaker 2: song is a bop?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean yeah, they were all pretty

500
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Speaker 3: much singles.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Canadians, you Canadians do it right. I've never

502
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Speaker 1: met a Canadian I didn't like. I'm watching all of

503
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Speaker 1: Canadian's Big Brother right now, season after season, so I'm

504
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Speaker 1: really immersed into the culture that your culture, it is

505
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Speaker 1: the Canadian culture. Okay, name five of your favorite Canadian

506
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Speaker 1: entertainers right now.

507
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Speaker 2: Drake Bieber, Yeah, jo I love Justin b Bunning Easton

508
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: really well, Drake, Bryan Adams. Who else is in Canada? Yeah,

509
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Speaker 2: they've done.

510
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Speaker 1: I was looking for a little Ryan Gosling, Ryan Gosling.

511
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Speaker 2: Because I thought we were doing singers, did you say

512
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Speaker 2: entertainers entertainers?

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Speaker 1: Which Ryan's a good scene.

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Speaker 2: Ryan's great. Actually, Ryan's a great singer and a songwriter.

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Speaker 2: People don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you look at the credits for No

517
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Speaker 1: One Does a Better Album, you'll see that Ryan Gosling

518
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Speaker 1: is credited.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: How did that happen?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know my friends growing up and

522
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Speaker 2: uh yeah, I guess we're in La staying at the

523
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Speaker 2: Sportsman's Lodge and we love.

524
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Speaker 1: The sports Have you seen the area now? They were

525
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Speaker 1: going to be created the whole thing. There's now the Equinox,

526
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Speaker 1: the Air One. They've a little bogie boogie.

527
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Speaker 2: That's why we couldn't get a room there. Oh yeah,

528
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Speaker 2: prob I looked a year from now. I couldn't get

529
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Speaker 2: a room there.

530
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Speaker 1: Really, it's the spot because it's right next to CBS Radford,

531
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Speaker 1: so that's where a lot of the actors stay. They

532
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Speaker 1: filmed so many movies there too.

533
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Speaker 2: So many. Is that Jerry's Famous Deli still just next door?

534
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Speaker 1: It is closed, but it's still it is a bowling alley,

535
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Speaker 1: it's a bowling and they have live karaoke now, so.

536
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Speaker 2: I know they closed. Just my next job, the seven

537
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Speaker 2: Layer tron Cake.

538
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's surprising they could not get Jerry's Deli to

539
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Speaker 1: stay because it's still open in Miami, right or is

540
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Speaker 1: that going to I.

541
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Speaker 2: Have not seen that in Miami. Wow, I lost track

542
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Speaker 2: where we were. Sorry, guys, it's very cake. Yeah, no,

543
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Speaker 2: we're talking about right right, So yeah, I mean it's

544
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Speaker 2: just yeah, you want to come down, and we're choosing vocals.

545
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Speaker 2: We were doing a we needed some gang vocals on

546
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Speaker 2: this song. I think it was called Feeling You and uh,

547
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Speaker 2: you know you could sing. We were writing songs back

548
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Speaker 2: in the day together too, So yeah, come down the studio.

549
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Speaker 2: I think we grabbed a bunch of people. Scott Vicarious

550
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Speaker 2: was there from Breaker High and we just went to

551
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Speaker 2: the studio, had some fun. So I actually still have

552
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Speaker 2: a gold record of his that I gotta give him.

553
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Speaker 2: Oh no, he was on the record, so uh yeah.

554
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Speaker 1: Right, and now he's ken that excited for that movie.

555
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Speaker 1: That movie looks so look funny and I love the

556
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Speaker 1: Amy Schumer, who was originally going to be Barbie, was like, oh,

557
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Speaker 1: they didn't want to do my ideas. I wonder what

558
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Speaker 1: her ideas? Well, this is already funny and you know, campy,

559
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: but like what would hers be?

560
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: I can't Imagineeah, I don't know.

561
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Speaker 1: I guess we'll never know. I guess we'll never know.

562
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Speaker 1: All right. So, while you were a Canadian act, you

563
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: did see a lot of success here in the States.

564
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Speaker 1: You opened up for Christina Aguilera on the Genie a

565
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Speaker 1: Bottle Tour, which also not even as like that's amazing,

566
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Speaker 1: but Destiny's Child that was.

567
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Speaker 2: Great on the tour.

568
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Speaker 1: So you got to tour with all these amazing women.

569
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Speaker 1: Are there any good stories? Did y'all get to mingle?

570
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Speaker 1: Did you get to see Beyonce without he makeup?

571
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Speaker 2: All? Beyonce off the tour? Boss without makeup looks just

572
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Speaker 2: as good as we made that comment, like, oh my gosh,

573
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: course of course, right, So they were sweethearts, Beyonce, Kelly, Michelle,

574
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Speaker 2: they were so nice. How about Christina? Was he nice? Look?

575
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Speaker 2: We were on that was our first tour. It was

576
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Speaker 2: a big deal for us, right, and we're, you know,

577
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: thankful for being on it. We send us some flowers

578
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: and thank you for you know, inviting us on this tour.

579
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: Graduation on your first tour, you know, it's a big deal.

580
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Speaker 2: We never heard back from her. A couple of instances

581
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: where you know, we're trying to leave. I think it

582
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: was our hometown, Vancouver, we did it. I think gm

583
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: place we played there and just trying to leave the

584
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: the dressing room and security, her security comes back. You

585
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 2: got back in your room like, oh, we're just gonna leave.

586
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: I've got my family. No, you back in their room,

587
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: Christina's coming down the hall like, oh what, I'm gonna

588
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Speaker 2: jump her like break, I'm with my mom and dad

589
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Speaker 2: and my family, right, And so they made us.

590
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Speaker 1: Way through about ten fifteen minutes, and well, people can

591
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Speaker 1: forgive a lot of things when you're that talented, and

592
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Speaker 1: one thing that I will always give her is man.

593
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Speaker 1: She really helped our community, the lgbt QI a community

594
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Speaker 1: from an early early stance from a late nineties. So

595
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Speaker 1: if she was always such a huge supporter and one

596
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Speaker 1: of the I remember me coming out personally. I remember

597
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Speaker 1: her music had a lot to do with that, because

598
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Speaker 1: I think strips just came out and yeah, and it

599
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: just so many of those songs just remind me of

600
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Speaker 1: my first relationship and being in the closet and seeing

601
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Speaker 1: her that beautiful vide and seeing those two guys kiss

602
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Speaker 1: for the first.

603
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Speaker 2: Time in music. Our wedding song, like walking down the

604
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Speaker 2: Aisle was Christina. We can't seething. I know, I'm a

605
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Speaker 2: huge fan.

606
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Speaker 1: I just we asked her to sing in our wedding,

607
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Speaker 1: but we knew she was going to say no. We

608
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Speaker 1: did get Kelly Price to sing her song, so it

609
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: worked out great. Yeah, yeah, because we love Kelly Price.

610
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Speaker 2: Were you part of the Mickey Mouse Club? I was not.

611
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Speaker 1: That was Justin and Jason.

612
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Speaker 2: Okay, but how did you know Chris, because that was

613
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Speaker 2: she was a part of that.

614
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Speaker 1: You knew you were through j C and John.

615
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So when we started the group in ninety five, she

617
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Speaker 1: was just starting same thing with Brittany. You know, Brittany

618
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Speaker 1: was in a group called Innocence that a bunch of

619
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Speaker 1: our friends were in, and then Christina was just coming

620
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Speaker 1: out with uh a Reflection Reflection from Disney and that

621
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Speaker 1: song was just In and then she had a major

622
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Speaker 1: record deal after that. It was kind of right, okay,

623
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Speaker 1: and then Brittany couldn't do Innocence because she was signed

624
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Speaker 1: to Jive Records at the time, and John was like, uh,

625
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Speaker 1: you're not doing a group, You're domain a solo artist.

626
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: They forced her to be a solo artist, and you know,

627
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: that kind of worked kind of worked out.

628
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Speaker 2: That's right. That was a huge camp man that that

629
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: pumped out a lot of star because was part of

630
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Speaker 2: that too.

631
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, let's let's name him. Carrie Russell,

632
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: Ryan Gosling, Justin Timberley, j C. Shaz, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera.

633
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Speaker 1: There's so many Roan Gosling, Nicky Nicky Loach, I mean

634
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Speaker 1: a lot, so many more than that. It's it's crazy

635
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Speaker 1: what that show. And the funny thing is I go

636
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Speaker 1: back because I watched Mickey mouse Club when I was younger,

637
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Speaker 1: before j C and Justin were on it, and I

638
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: wanted to go back and watch it on Disney. Plus,

639
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, they must have all the you know,

640
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: Mickey mouse Club episodes. There were so many great performances there.

641
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Speaker 1: They don't have any of those up because of music licensing.

642
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding.

643
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Speaker 1: So all those Disney shows that like even our Concert

644
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: for Disney's not up there because of music licensing. Interesting, Yeah,

645
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: and even the remember the Disney movies that they would

646
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Speaker 1: make and then they would put like ensynct songs in it,

647
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Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. They had to replace those

648
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Speaker 1: with different songs. Now, so if you listen to them back,

649
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: it's they complete, we take our songs out of the

650
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: place it with some generic thing they made up.

651
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, in twenty five year clause probably.

652
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know. Music license is so confusing

653
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: to me. We get asked all the time, can we

654
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: use your song for this commercial? Can we just this

655
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: for this It's not it's not to me. Yeah, well no,

656
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: I mean it is up to we have to say yes. Uh,

657
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: but I'm always I mean, I'm gonna say yes to everything,

658
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: right basically because i want my songs heard everything.

659
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: But it's not a contract.

660
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and get paid.

661
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: So we could use it in this Nissan commercial.

662
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah all right.

663
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 3: So, uh.

664
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: You also went on tour with us for the second

665
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: leg of the No Strings Attached.

666
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: That was fun. Yeah, that was amazing. That was a

667
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 2: better experience.

668
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: How much of assholes will we know?

669
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: You guys were great and actually the best thing was

670
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: we remember. I mean, not the best thing, but it's

671
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: one of the things we remembered is how we were

672
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: talking about we were fighting about being a boy band

673
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: and we're a real band. I think it was Joey

674
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: that announced us the night we came out and say, hey,

675
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: it is like the first band and only band this

676
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: ever opened for instanct. He called us a band. So like,

677
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: these guys are awesome, and you took us to a

678
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: movie like you guys had this movie night that we did,

679
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: and that you rented the entire theater and that was cool.

680
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: I think you guys actually ate you know, food in

681
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: the capture with everybody and you guys are winding around

682
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: the halls. Hey, are you guys good? You give them good?

683
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, love tour we did. I mean everyone involved,

684
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: our crew, I mean all of our acts that we

685
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: worked with, we just had a great time. I mean

686
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: it was like our college years. I mean that was

687
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: our fraternity right, just hanging out backstage. But yeah, it

688
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: was great. And you guys were so lovely to work with.

689
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: I mean you have always been like the nicest guys.

690
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: You guys were good too, So you guys can put

691
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: good energy. So we we gave it back. Right. But

692
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: as you say, we're Canadian, we're.

693
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: All friends exactly. Our two nights Canadians.

694
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: Canadians are the best.

695
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: It does start Canadians and Australians. Those two countries, they're

696
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: like kindreds spread out some really commonwealth, right.

697
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

698
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Queen, the queen that puts you together.

699
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: Okay, So another huge song of your alls in North

700
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: America was kind of Crazy, which was number one on

701
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: t R L TRS. That was more important than the

702
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: charts or anything, at least for like like being on

703
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: the radio did not matter. It was t r L

704
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: and it was also Billboard named that music video one

705
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: of the top ten greatest boy.

706
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: Band videos of the until this moment.

707
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: That's very cool because Billboard even named the top ten

708
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: greatest boy band videos of.

709
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: The t RL era. That was a fun video. What

710
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: do you think made that song of that videos stand out?

711
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 2: We tried to recreate like a I think it was

712
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: help by the Beatles, right, and just like running through

713
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: the streets and stuff, being chased and yeah, so we did.

714
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: That's that was the concept. You know, me and Dave

715
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: wake up one morning and there's tons of fans outside

716
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: the apartments, like how are we going to get it

717
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: to rehearsal, Like, okay, we dress up, you know, I

718
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: think we'd dressing super Mario Brothers kind of mustache and

719
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: had what wasn't that but and it's just yeah, I

720
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: think it was just a fun video. You see us

721
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: being chased through the streets and Ken gets ubbed up, adapted, inducted,

722
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: and uh he's on the back of a pickup truck

723
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: and we see him in the scene, so we gotta

724
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: go rescue him. It's just it was just I guess

725
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: a different concept, and I think we had a lot

726
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: of fans also pushing, you know. I think t r

727
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: L you could vote. Was that how it worked?

728
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that you call in I think eventually online?

729
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm sure we had a lot of help

730
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: from fans, just like please make us number one? Like yeah,

731
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: it was all the fans, yeah, yeah, so but yeah,

732
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 2: it was just a fun video. I think the song

733
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: you know, had a catchiness to it and a George

734
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: Michael appeal.

735
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: And I think it was the frosted tips.

736
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: Personally, I still have frosted tips, so.

737
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: Purple frosted tips right now. But yeah, every number one

738
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: t r L song there was research.

739
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: You're onto something research, I think you're on all right.

740
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: So now the second album, Shady Satin Drug two thousand

741
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: and four, Now there were four years in between this album. Yeah,

742
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: what were you what were you all doing? Was it

743
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: just working on this album or were you trying to

744
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: do individual things after that first album?

745
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: I gotta think back, man, it's it's a long time ago.

746
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: It was four years, wasn't it. You know what happened?

747
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: We got dropped by Universal? Oh I know, I'll tell you,

748
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what happened Justin Timberlake Win Solo. Oh yeah,

749
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: and we get a call from the label said, yeah,

750
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: we're not We're not going to put out this record.

751
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: It's like what like and which is crazy because now

752
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: Rogers produced it. Who we all know who? Now Rogers

753
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: is right, I mean, one of the most funkiest guitar players.

754
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: And he's played on you know everything. He was in

755
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: chic you know, we are family. He's the man. He's

756
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: played on everything, Dran, Dram, Madonna, and he produced that

757
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: record and the labels like it doesn't matter. Justin Timberdake

758
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: Win Solo. He is the only guy that's going to

759
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: survive the boy bands. That was the message I got

760
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: when the labe was gonna call you to make you

761
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: see you if you're all right, feel good, and that's

762
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: what they told me, that no one's going to survive.

763
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm feeling good. Okay, you're dropping us

764
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: and no one's going to survive. That's great, thank you.

765
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: We just toured America twice and spent you know years

766
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: during the first album. There's no second album, so we

767
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: didn't have a label to release.

768
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: So Justin timber like destroyed Justin group.

769
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: Wow, well I think, Oh my gosh, I think and

770
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: all the boy bands, right, I mean, hey came up

771
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: with an incredible song and it was it was legit.

772
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: It worked. I mean, the times roll over, the times changed.

773
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: It was an end of an era, you know that.

774
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: It was the end of that ton of trl era

775
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: h at that point.

776
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: And I was given an opportunity. Actually, the label said

777
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: we we'd like you to go solo, and I just

778
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: I didn't have the confidence I always.

779
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Had tried and you know, I worked with Ryan Tedder,

780
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day. We tried getting him

781
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: a record deal, no other and and this was before

782
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: Justin went solo, and everyone every record lab was like, Lance,

783
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: a white solo guy will never work in this country, right, No,

784
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: it just is not gonna work. No one is looking

785
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: for that, and so could not get him a deal.

786
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: A couple of years later, boom, Justin solo white guy

787
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: definitely worked. Ye see.

788
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: This, Yeah, I mean he had the he had the

789
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: platform to jump from. I mean, you guys were at

790
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: one point, what the top ten most recognizable people in

791
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: the world. So all he had to do was make

792
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: sure he had good.

793
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: Songs and super talented what's the I mean because like

794
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: a lot of backstop boys try to do the same thing.

795
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: Well in the way he performs, you know, it's just

796
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: like he's a performer, he's an entertainer. And then you

797
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: you couple him up with Timbaland, which just killed it

798
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: on that album. And I know he's working on his

799
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: next album now with Timbaland, so I'm excited to hear and.

800
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't involved in his first yea, yeah, yeah, I mean,

801
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: there you go, like that's we always say the most

802
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: important three things in the industry are the song, the song,

803
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 2: the song. And he could come out with songs that were,

804
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: you know, whack, and it wouldn't have maybe happened totally.

805
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: You gotta have that song hit as a hit as

806
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: a hit, right and he had to. He was talented,

807
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 2: he had he had the whole package. So what do

808
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 2: you need. He needed to hit songs. So yeah, I mean,

809
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: I suppose I things happened the way that happened for me.

810
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: I didn't want to go solo. I didn't have, like

811
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: I said, the confidence, and we said, wow, we figured, okay,

812
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: we are huge in the States, we're huge in Canada.

813
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: We spend all this time promoting the first album, and

814
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: I think it was you guys that actually said, you know,

815
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: you guys are on the right path. You're doing the

816
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: right thing. You're playing all the same shows that we played,

817
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: the same spot. You're doing all the right promotion. Your

818
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: next album is gonna be your big one. So we're thinking, okay, well,

819
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: why wouldn't we release this with a you know, smaller label.

820
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: And it didn't work. The smaller label didn't have the

821
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 2: juice and people were falling Timberlake boy bands where people

822
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: were buying boy bands. It just didn't happen. So we

823
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: kind of just fell off the map.

824
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, after your final tour in two thousand

825
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: and five, who was the first to say, I think

826
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: it's time to hang it up right now?

827
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: Let's I think it was me. I think it was

828
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: just like, we're like, you know, we're getting you know,

829
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: a small venue filled with fans, and the next venue

830
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: there's nobody there, and the next day it's half filled,

831
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: there's nobody there, then it's full. It was just like,

832
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: you know, it's time to just move on. And I think,

833
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: you know, because I would was writing most of the

834
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: Soul Decision stuff, I felt, well, maybe I can just

835
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: write my own stuff. But I went down a different path.

836
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: I went acoustic guitar and vocals, and I actually moved

837
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: to Australia to me it with the drummer that played

838
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: on our record, TERR pie Rich when he was a

839
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: phenomenal drummer, say come on out, I'll get your heaps

840
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: of gigs and local clubs. You can just you know,

841
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: start doing singer songwriter stuff. And that really didn't turn

842
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: out well either, and then I left Austria. Actually, you know,

843
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: he got me a meeting with Sony and we went

844
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: and we played in a few stuff and they're like,

845
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: you know what, this is actually pretty good, but you

846
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: need radio hits. You were big in Australia, remember you guys,

847
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: you need to get into our studio, record some radio hits.

848
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: Give us first, write a refusal, and you know we'll

849
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 2: go from there. I'm like, all right. So there was

850
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 2: a glimmer of hope that maybe I could launch from Australia.

851
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I gotta go home. I just bought

852
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: a house. I'd filled it full of home stay students,

853
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: trying to pay the bills. I had, you know, a

854
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: friend looking after that situation, like, I got to get

855
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: home and deal with that situation first. And as I

856
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: was leaving Australia, the guy at Immigration said them, are

857
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: you coming back to Australia in times soon? I'm yeah,

858
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come back in a couple of weeks. I

859
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: just doing a deal with Sony and they're like, no, mate,

860
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: you you don't have a visa to be here. I'm

861
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: like a six months visa because you know you got

862
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: a three month visa and Inspire you've been here for

863
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: like two months longer. I'm like, my so, go see

864
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: my partner in the back. And I get back there

865
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: and they put a big stamp three years probation, you

866
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: black flag, get out of Austria.

867
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: Take it back. Australia is not the nicest.

868
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: And I haven't but yeah it was. So I was

869
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: out for three years and that and that I got home,

870
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: I was like, man, this sucks, like nobody wants to

871
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: give me a deal, No one cared about boy bands

872
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: can't get back to Australia.

873
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Well, we talk about mental health a lot on this

874
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: show and doing something as big as you guys did,

875
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: and I can definitely relate. And then it just kind

876
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: of stops. Did that affect you in a way depression?

877
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, of course, I think everybody really in

878
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: some level of course.

879
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: I mean I'm still dealing with the depression now. But

880
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: what how did you cope with it? How did you?

881
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: You know? I think I was lucky. I was never

882
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: a big drinker, never really did drugs. I was always

883
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: into the gym. And you know, anybody that's ever dealt

884
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: with mental health, you know the first thing you keep,

885
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: You got to take care of yourself. Get to the gym,

886
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: workout that's going to release certain endor fiends and and

887
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: so I was always training. I think that really helped me.

888
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: And there was always a belief in the back of

889
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 2: my head that, you know what, like I wrote those songs,

890
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: those songs were like like huge, and you look at Faded,

891
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: there's one writer on that. At the time we were

892
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: in the top forty. Lenny Kravitz was the only other

893
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: artist that had one name as a writer. And most

894
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: people five writers, six rs today twenty riders. You know.

895
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's cheating.

896
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: It's cheating. Well, that's how hard it is now right now,

897
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: it's so odd. I just felt like, you know, and

898
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: friends are like, man, you you did that, like you

899
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: can do this again? Like, and I guess time just

900
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: had to pass. It had to, you know, come around

901
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: to the opportunity. And it's funny that I got kicked

902
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: out of Australia because when I got back, even though

903
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: I was, you know, depressed, and I was like, oh man,

904
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: this is like what am I gonna How is this

905
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: gonna turn out? I still was writing songs. I was

906
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: still had There's still something in the back of your

907
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 2: head like you just you gotta keep going. You gotta

908
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: keep going. Right. If I would have given that up,

909
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how I would have handled depression or

910
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: anxiety because then it's like, well, what do you you know?

911
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: What am I living for? Like this is what I

912
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: was born to do. I don't really have any skills

913
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: or anything else. Right, So yeah, And I got back

914
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: from Australia and another opportunity came out of a friend

915
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: mine called me Andy. I met you on set, you

916
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: know when we do an extra work back in the day,

917
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 2: I'm like okay, and it's like I'm working with these

918
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: DJs and like, I don't know, I think about that

919
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 2: industry man, And he's like just come to my house.

920
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 2: We'll cut you in on the publishing if you write

921
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: these verses and sing. He's like, you got that like

922
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: Chris Martin sound vocals. I'm like, whatever, what am I

923
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: gonna say? No, I got nothing going on for me.

924
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: So I went there and that that this doesn't changed

925
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 2: my life because I end up, you know, getting opportunity

926
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: to write this is what it feels like, which guts

927
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: into Armen and he loved it and used to it

928
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: was so massive range, I mean that was I mean,

929
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: how was that experience?

930
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: Is kind of all all of a sudden again you're

931
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: just like thrusted back with like the number one huge.

932
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't believe it was gonna happen. All

933
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: my friends like you're just gonna change your life. I'm like, ah, sure,

934
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: Like I've already been down that road and I just

935
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: didn't want to have the home.

936
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: I can always say Grammy nominated that song.

937
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that feel pretty good.

938
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: It is a huge song and it's acually at the

939
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: time when that came out, I mean that song was.

940
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: Like the song yeah, number number one and thirty one countries,

941
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: the most played song on Billboard, you know, top forty Canada,

942
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: which is great.

943
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: You make a lot of money off that song.

944
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: That's so it pays well. Yeah, yeah, it's because it

945
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: hit all three market hit like a d all, Contemporary,

946
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: Top forty and dance, so you had all three markets

947
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: and man, that song is still playing today. I think it.

948
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: You know, it'll end up being timeless, which is great,

949
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: so that'll hopefully keep paying the bills.

950
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: And would you ever work with him again?

951
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: Like I mean that it would have to be the

952
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: right song because like you got to top that. We

953
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: need to Grammy this time, right, Yeah, But I'm not

954
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: working stuff again. I just got back from Europe. I'm

955
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: working with some some big names over there. And again

956
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: it comes that you have to have the song right.

957
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: You get the song and then you figure out that

958
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: production and then you put a plan together to you

959
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: with the label.

960
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: Is there an artist that you would love to collab with.

961
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: As far as DJs?

962
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: Just no, just anyway, like a cold Play or Justin

963
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: or someone just to have fun.

964
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure I'd love to do a song with Coldplay.

965
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: It would be interesting though, because we have similar yeah

966
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: and tones.

967
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: But you could be like jac and Justin right now,

968
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: it's like the two together is.

969
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: Like magic man. I you know, I'd work with anybody

970
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: that's you know, of that caliber. I think that's amazing,

971
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: guys like Timberlake and and Chris Martin, Rihanna, I mean

972
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: that do it played piano a ballad or something?

973
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Well, she had a great dance hit to what was

974
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: the one that she she had?

975
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: Lots had Harris got Yellow a Yellow diamonds? Wait, what's one?

976
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: This is what you're for? Diamonds.

977
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: That's our song.

978
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: That's diamonds.

979
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: Isn't that?

980
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: No? No no?

981
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 3: But she sang the other song that was written by

982
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, m this.

983
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: Is what you're waiting for? Oh, that was great to you.

984
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 3: That's Taylor Swift doing all the right. That's her voice

985
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: and she wrote that song.

986
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: That's a perfect game because she can put her foot

987
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: in the dance world and in the pop world. I

988
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: mean that's for me. That's where you want to be. Yeah,

989
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: I mean and at our age, I mean, where else

990
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: are we going to be? Right? I Mean, the dance

991
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: world doesn't except all ages. So it's it's good. Right.

992
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: Looking back on your career and especially with sole decision,

993
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: is there anything that you would have done differently?

994
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm happy where I am in my career. I've got

995
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: a good opportunity in front of me to, you know,

996
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: launch a solo record. So I mean, I don't think

997
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: why at this point, why I change anything.

998
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you seem very happy. You seem very in love

999
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: to see in those eyes over there. All right, let's

1000
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: get to some frosted tips here. After all these years

1001
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: of being in sole decision, you're still evolving and working

1002
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: in music. What are some tips for our listeners to

1003
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: keep you motivated?

1004
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: Escape the matrix? I don't know. For me, I'm a

1005
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: music I don't know else I would do, and I

1006
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: just I wake up. I'm like, okay, Like, how am

1007
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: I gonna What am I gonna do today to make

1008
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: this a great day? And it's like I have my routine.

1009
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: I like again, I say, take care of my health.

1010
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: I go to the gym, get the endorphins going, go

1011
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: for Mike, I go for a run, and then go

1012
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: and studio, mess around the piano, see what I can do.

1013
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: I also do a little home renovation project. So it

1014
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: depends on what are you working home? Oh man, we

1015
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: did a huge renovation during COVID. I probably should have

1016
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: been writing songs. But I just we just ripped down

1017
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: walls and we did.

1018
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: We went through like crazy reconstruction during.

1019
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: COVID and yeah, yeah, I don't I can't believe we

1020
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: pulled that off. But camera and getting tennis elbow like

1021
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: screw crazy. But yeah, I just think you have to

1022
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 2: keep busy. You just, you know, put a plan together.

1023
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: I write a list before I go to bed at

1024
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: night and what I'm going to do.

1025
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: And a really good way to start your day. And

1026
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: we do this most of the time. We always wake

1027
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: up and we say it's a great day. To have

1028
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: a great day, absolutely, you know, and just start with

1029
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: that affirmation, make up your bed, because then you're like,

1030
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 1: I have one thing accomplished already, and then it gets

1031
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: you know, then I wish I would go ahead and

1032
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: work out, which I don't, but that would really help

1033
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: in the morning. We still do, we do exercise, but

1034
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: it would definitely help in the morning.

1035
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 2: Kids pick them up and run with them exactly.

1036
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, my biceps are getting bigger because they're getting

1037
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, they're now twenty five pounds lifting.

1038
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

1039
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah good, I can feel it my shoulders and everything.

1040
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some fan questions because, like

1041
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: I said, the fans have been dying for you to

1042
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: be on the show, so let's get to them right now.

1043
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: This is from Courtney. Do you see Sole Decision ever

1044
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: being a part of the Pop two thousand tour? Do

1045
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: you know the Pop two thousand tour? It's a bunch

1046
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: of TRL acts basically Otown, Ryan Cabrera, LFO, Chris kah

1047
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: Patrick hosts it now BBEMCA think's going.

1048
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: On bb MAC.

1049
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they're great different. Yeah, So it's just yeah,

1050
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: it's like a TRL tour and it's it started years ago.

1051
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: They were only going to go for a couple of

1052
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: months and now it's been years and it's just like

1053
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: it was the.

1054
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 2: First time I'm hearing about it. Oh we haven't been invited.

1055
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: Well so right now, okay, Yeah, I think y'all should

1056
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: do the Pop two thousand.

1057
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: So what do people do? Like one or two songs?

1058
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: They get different, Like Otown definitely is the headliner, so

1059
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: they'll get probably forty five to an hour, probably like

1060
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: an hour show and they're great. You know, Rock Cabrero

1061
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: do like a good thirty minute set and everyone does

1062
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: about it thirty minutes. Yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting great. Yeah.

1063
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: I mean I've only played the guys from Solo Decision

1064
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: on one show. I did a show in Vancouver when

1065
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: my solo for solo shows and I brought them out.

1066
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: It's just surprised because you're like, you do faded. It

1067
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: was kind of crazy, like, I guess I could, but

1068
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: the guys are in town. I should like, why'd you

1069
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: guys come out? So they showed up and that was

1070
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: a great moment. You know, I'd be down to doing

1071
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: something that, like on a solo tour, bring them out

1072
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: for you know, a few songs. So I don't know.

1073
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: If these guys asked us to come out and play

1074
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 2: a few songs, I'm sure we could have a conversation

1075
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: about it.

1076
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Speaker 1: I am going to make some all right. This is

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Speaker 1: from Super Mal What's your guilty Pleasure karaoke song?

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Speaker 2: Good question. I've never been a big carryo me neither.

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00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: I hate it sounds.

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Speaker 1: Terrible because everyone's looking at you to be like perfect.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it's the worst, and it's like you're

1082
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Speaker 2: in a well. I'm like, I don't like karaoke, so

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00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: I don't have that go to karaoke song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't do the last time I did

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Speaker 3: karaoke with I never do care either. I was Christina

1086
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: Aguilort was there and nobody everybody refused to do it.

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00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: Have you refuse to get out cause they don't want

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 1: They don't wt to sing in front of her? Did

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Speaker 1: she do karaoke?

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00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: No, she was like hinting at and then she left.

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00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I would imagine she she doesn't want to

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00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: sound bad.

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00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: Well, I think she was safe from that crowd. Yeah, yeah,

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00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: I think she had everyone. Bet Why are you karaoke

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00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 3: with Christina? I wanted I would would It was the

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Speaker 3: Afterrivers for Kate beckhamsales Beartha.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I guess I was not. I was not invited

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Speaker 1: to that.

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Speaker 2: You're out of town.

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Speaker 1: Well it sounds like a good time. All right, Let's

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Speaker 1: get to the next question from Angela. May have you

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Speaker 1: David and Kin ever talked about a reunion?

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00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: We talked about this, Yeah, not in in length. If

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00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: an opportunity can't it's to have you the right opportunity,

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00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: And it's like, I gotta be honest with you. I

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00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm that excited about going out and

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Speaker 2: performing a lot of those songs like faded, no problem.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of crazy past those two. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure if I'm really yeah, you know, into I don't know.

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00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: I kind of moved on from that, but again, as

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Speaker 2: you said, the right opportunity, if it was the right thing,

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00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: all right, I'm never gonna say no, Right.

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Speaker 1: Pinky the Lotus ass Who inspired you musically?

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00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: Oh? The eighties? Yeah, George Michael was a huge inspiration.

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Speaker 2: Duran Durant and a lot of stuff that my parents

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Speaker 2: listened to was a lot of fifties and a lot

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Speaker 2: of country pop and listened to eight tracks in the car.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had an eight track player in my

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Speaker 1: room because it was my grandparents huge like huge stereos

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00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: high oh like this and just why we had one

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00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: of those record player and the eight tracks.

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Speaker 2: And the button oh yeah before you could switch every

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Speaker 2: four songs.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, And I loved it. So I had all

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Speaker 1: my papa's eight tracks, but he was a country fan,

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00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: so it was a bunch of just country eight tracks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then the records went even further because I think

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Speaker 1: there were my dads, but they were like nineteen fifties

1131
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Speaker 1: wolfman Jack. Okay, that's kind of what I grew up

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Speaker 1: the classics. All right, before we let you go, we

1133
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Speaker 1: have to hear what you're binging listening to watching right now.

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Speaker 1: So can you give us some good recommendations of things

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Speaker 1: that you are watching on TV right now?

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Speaker 2: We're not really binging much. I'm really trying to focus

1137
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: on on my career again, so I'm less television, but.

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Speaker 1: I think inspiration from TV.

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00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 2: The last thing we watched probably last week, we watched

1140
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: I think the four or five episodes that are available

1141
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: season three of ted Lasso.

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00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we still got to It's great, feel good.

1143
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: He is great.

1144
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Speaker 1: Did we only see the first season?

1145
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 2: We only saw the first season.

1146
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: We do that with all because we love television, but

1148
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: we never finish anything.

1149
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Speaker 3: We watched so many shows that then when other shows

1150
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: come out, we're like, oh, well watch that. Then we

1151
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Speaker 3: forgot this other show we just started, and then like

1152
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 3: three years later, we're like to the point where we.

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Speaker 1: Just don't finish the last two episodes.

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00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last episodes.

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Speaker 1: I did the same thing with friends, Like I watched

1156
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: like pretty much all everything, but I did not watch

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Speaker 1: the last episodes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem is you get two seasons and you

1159
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: gotta wait, like a year, and I gotta go back

1160
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Speaker 2: and watch the entire first and second I think I

1161
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Speaker 2: saw four times just to get every season.

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Speaker 1: I watched my TV like a movie, a long movie. Yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, what song do you have stuck in your

1164
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Speaker 1: head right now?

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00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy. I don't know why you keep

1166
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: the thing though. Yeah. I was just singing that my

1167
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: about three seconds, which is really bad. Uh.

1168
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: And is there a movie that you just love recently?

1169
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: We have to I have not seen Top Gun yet?

1170
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: Why have we not seen Top Gun? That and Avatar?

1171
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: There's oh, I haven't seen Avatar. Just saw Top Gun.

1172
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Speaker 1: We don't go to the movies. We don't get. Those

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00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: are the movies I wanted to see in theater, missed it,

1174
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: and now I just I don't know. I just forget

1175
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: they're even out. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But what we watch Babylon just i've watched, we haven't

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00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: seen anything. It was playing on the airplane and we landed,

1178
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: Like why would you put this on the flight if

1179
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: I can't watch the whole thing. It's like three and

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00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 2: a half hours.

1181
00:48:59,160 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: A who's in that?

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00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah pretty good so far. I mean halfway through,

1183
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this is this is good, So I

1184
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: do that too.

1185
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: On the plane. You don't get to watch last thirty

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00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: minutes of streat things, and I'll just never know how

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Speaker 1: it ends.

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00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm weird with movies on planes.

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Speaker 3: I have a weird thing where like you watch it,

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00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to, like actually commit to watching a movie,

1191
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: so I will just watch movies on other people's screen

1192
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 3: out and just watching what I'm seeing, just assume what's happening.

1193
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: Just making up your own entire movies.

1194
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: That's what I do.

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00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: You're weird. You're just weird.

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00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Well. On that note, Trevor, it was

1198
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: so great catching up with you. Yeah, man, thanks so

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00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: much for coming in. I'm excited to see this next

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Speaker 1: chapter for you. Do you have any idea of when

1201
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: you want to release any new music? Can we be

1202
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: looking forward?

1203
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: I think I got a song coming out this summer.

1204
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: Oh nice, So we don't have to wait long at all. No.

1205
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: I just I called buddy of mine who's producing, and

1206
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: I can see his n DJ Brandon Hart. He's a

1207
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: he does hard style. It's not a hard style song,

1208
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: but it's I'm a nineties the nineties.

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00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: But people love some nineties right now, Yes.

1210
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: You know, we went through an eighties phase and Kevin

1211
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: Harris new songs got that nineties vibe to you.

1212
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: Now, who thought nineties would come back? And everything fashion?

1213
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: What a weird decade?

1214
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: A weird decade.

1215
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: But now looking back, it was incredible, Like there was

1216
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: so many great things about that decade, but living it,

1217
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell is this? Like what is

1218
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: mismatched mess?

1219
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: I wasn't even to look back on in the nineties

1220
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: and like try to like so much.

1221
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Speaker 1: Like the birth of like real like hip hop trumble

1222
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: uh to country going pop, to the spice girls pop

1223
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,280
Speaker 1: to the grunge in Seattle. I mean it was all

1224
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: over the place even and then Santana with like you.

1225
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: Know, the Latin explosion arrived in nineties. Like how after

1226
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: the nineties we're just talking about what is? What is there?

1227
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: Just I know what I kept my head on like

1228
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: sideways hats No, like once.

1229
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: Came it was like the twenties thenots and the twenty

1230
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: tens melted together, and now the twenties are melting in

1231
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: And I could not tell you which Beyonce's song was

1232
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: in which decade.

1233
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: No, after two thousand, it's like, dude, where did pop

1234
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: culture go? I don't kind of do you.

1235
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: Think that's because of social media? Do you think that

1236
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: we're all so segmented now that we all have our little.

1237
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: Trend Maybe it's in the little world.

1238
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe interesting, it's it's just weird because you know,

1239
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: the nineties was the last decade that you were told

1240
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: what to like. Like literally, you watch MTV and you're

1241
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: told these are the twenty songs you have to like.

1242
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: That's it done.

1243
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: Also, now social media we're exposed to so much, so

1244
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: it's just like so much we're getting through it that

1245
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 3: does not get one trend, one trend within your own country, right,

1246
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: You're seeing every trend from all over the world, and

1247
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: so you're just everyone does everything, Like.

1248
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 2: You're seeing fashions from the eighties and nineties. But it's

1249
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: just like people aren't there's nothing from the million. I

1250
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 2: couldn't even tell you what's in the millennium. I can't

1251
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: even think that the whole Yeah, social media maybe, I

1252
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: don't know if you let's blame social media.

1253
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: All right, we blame you of social media and you

1254
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: Australia too. Yeah, all right, Trevor, how can everyone stay

1255
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: in touch? With you out there.

1256
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram at Trevor Guthrie.

1257
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, text back easy enough? O sure, okay,

1258
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: damn Trevor please okay, all right, thank you so much

1259
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: for being on the show. And that is all the

1260
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: show we have for you. Thank you so much for listening.

1261
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: You can always review, subscribe. Oh we do have some reviews.

1262
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: I think we have some reviews to do. All right,

1263
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: we promised some reviews and here we go, and let's

1264
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: see who the winner is going to be.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: This is from Courtney four eighty six. This makes me

1267
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: feel like a thirteen year old girl again. I enjoy

1268
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: listening to the interviews the boy band members. Some hit

1269
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: you in the fields, some make you laugh so hard,

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00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: but overall they're all really amazing and very enjoyable. Oh

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Speaker 1: that's really sweet.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to read the next one, the next

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Speaker 3: one from Glit. Okay, Glit Glit said, Okay, that's the

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00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 3: headline of this three stars three Okay.

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Speaker 2: This is the biggest problem with the show, and I

1276
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: like problems.

1277
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: We listened to you.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of Lance. I think he's swarmy

1279
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: and fake, but I listened when I like the guests.

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00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: So I'm glad he has a good one. Sometimes Oh

1281
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: my gosh.

1282
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: It's so me Wow, glit, that's rude. And then there's

1283
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: another one from it's Lindsay's God must have spent a

1284
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 3: little more time on this podcast. This is the podcast

1285
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 3: all of us millennials need in our lives. Lance and

1286
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: Michael have a wonderful rapport with their guests, and as

1287
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: a major BSBN SYNC fan, I love getting context as

1288
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 3: to what the boys were going through at the height

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Speaker 3: of their All.

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Speaker 1: Right, let me the next one. I'll try not to

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Speaker 1: be as smart, little less swarmy, says Smarty. Oh, Smarty,

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Speaker 1: So I think that means she's saying that she thinks

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Speaker 1: I'm really smart.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, I think he's very smart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, thanks glit nice. All right, us millennials have

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Speaker 1: been through it, and honestly, this podcast is a little

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Speaker 1: pocket of joy. Thank you Lance for bringing this to

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Speaker 1: us now, please, and I speak for all of us,

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Speaker 1: make the in syncre in intour happen, all right, Lisa Gallo.

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Speaker 1: And then the Ashley Parker Angel episode four Stars for Stars.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: This was an interesting episode. I'm not familiar enough with otown.

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Speaker 3: I in particular about what music I listened to. The

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Speaker 3: only boy bands I like or end sync and sync wrong.

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Speaker 3: So you don't like them that much. I think they

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Speaker 3: are more talented and have bigger songs than new kids

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Speaker 3: on the block. Wow, wow, Well a stream of consciousness

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Speaker 3: and why.

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Speaker 1: Not give us that extra star? What did we do?

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Speaker 2: What did you do? Did you?

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Speaker 1: That's alt Rawley? All right. We love all your reviews,

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Speaker 1: even the bad ones. Look, we do listen to you,

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Speaker 1: So if we do things that you don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear or you want to listen to always dm us.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on our TikTok, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of blowing up right now. Go follow us on TikTok

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. We do use that DM to listen to you,

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Speaker 1: talk to you guys, get your questions. So have fun

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Speaker 1: with us. Let's make this just enjoy and I'll work

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Speaker 1: with Lance on him being less smarty smarmy, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: work on that and fake. I don't know about the

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Speaker 1: fake thing. I'm just that's just gonna be don by

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Speaker 1: my all right, guys, be good to each other, take

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Speaker 1: care of the Oh my gosh, what is this but

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Speaker 1: I forget how to sign off the show. Be good,

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Speaker 1: be good to, don't drink and drive, don't drink and dry.

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Speaker 3: Take care of those pats, take care of those animals, animals,

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Speaker 3: all of them.

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Speaker 1: And remember stay frosted. Hey, thanks for listening. Follow us

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at Frosted Tips with Lance and Michael Turchinard,

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Speaker 1: and at lance bast for all your pop culture needs

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Speaker 3: And make sure to write a review and leave us

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Speaker 3: five stars six if you can see you next time.