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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, or should I say ho ho ho?

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Speaker 2: It's me Matt Rogers And in the words of another

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Speaker 2: Christmas icon, it's time. I'm back with my new nationwide tour,

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Speaker 2: Matt Rogers Christmas in December.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's time to remember when Christmas is.

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Speaker 2: I'm hitting the road all of December with Henrykoperski and

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Speaker 2: the whole band performing my album Have You Heard Of Christmas,

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Speaker 2: along with a bunch of other little surprises. So if

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Speaker 2: New York City, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, or yes, Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 1: I want to see your gorgeous ass.

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Speaker 2: my bio. Until then, stream the album, get your look

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Speaker 2: together and get ready to deck the damn halls at

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Speaker 2: a venue near you Christmas in December.

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Speaker 1: You in my heart XO XO, Santa Boy, look mare.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I see you my own and look over there

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Speaker 3: is that the culture? Yes, love cult, Love cult.

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Speaker 1: Is calling you. Caught me off guard there with the

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Speaker 1: you do it in what do you mean? Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: have to yeah myself. My heart is a potter.

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Speaker 2: Your heart's a potter, and you're in your athletic wear.

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Speaker 2: I'm in my Adam Selman's sport.

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Speaker 1: Adam Shelman sport. Uh. I was one of the great

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Speaker 1: honors of my life was being an ass man back

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Speaker 1: in the day. Yes, it's still an ass man. Sorry, Seinfeld,

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Speaker 1: I'm an ass man.

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Speaker 2: Well, if it's it's not a visual medium unless you're

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Speaker 2: watching who Are Shining Bright?

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Speaker 1: You are ready to go tack on the world. This

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Speaker 1: is well, I'll let him describe when we bring him on,

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Speaker 1: but this is this. I would say this is sort

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Speaker 1: of like a super reflective like you know, the stripes

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Speaker 1: that air traffic controllers might wear, but sort of writ

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Speaker 1: large across the entire garden. Yeah, be seen, Be seen, CNBC.

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Speaker 2: I have to say today is a big day, not

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Speaker 2: only because our guest is on the podcast, but also

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Speaker 2: because we are sort of resurrecting the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.

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Speaker 1: Are you you're not going to be there.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be there. I'm working.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was like, I was like, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna have to work. Damn.

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Speaker 4: It's okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be there. You know, I would be

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Speaker 1: there with bells on my dick and I was available.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be sitting there actually just fit for it. Today,

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Speaker 2: I'm giving you a little shimmer and a little shy wow,

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Speaker 2: just like to fit for the Victoria's Secret BSF. This

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Speaker 2: is going to be a really, really really fun night.

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Speaker 2: Everyone has to tune in. It's if you're listening to

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Speaker 2: this or watching this on Wednesday, actually fifteenth, it's tonight, y'all.

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Speaker 2: It's on Amazon NIME at seven pm.

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Speaker 1: It will be the event that it was always meant

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Speaker 1: to be, not that it wasn't before. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we just let's just like start clean with her. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: guess what we're all. We're all, Oh my god, Abercrommy

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Speaker 1: is making great blazers. Yeah, we yes, it's we're we're resetting.

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Speaker 2: Everything's reset. Everything's resetting, everything's resetting, everything's back. You know

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Speaker 2: what else is now? High fashion Marshals Marshall, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get get a Matt Rogers and bow Yang this December

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Speaker 2: for Marshals.

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Speaker 1: Baby. Some girls are flopping and I will address this

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Speaker 1: in my own thing so you'll see, you'll see I'm

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Speaker 1: not afraid of calling us that because it's disgusting. This

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Speaker 1: what we're saying on the on the SNL group chats,

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Speaker 1: we're going to discuss disgusting. I thought you I thought

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Speaker 1: get suspect and disgusting.

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Speaker 2: I really do want to start describing things as very suspect, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Very suspect.

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Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled about our guests.

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Speaker 2: This is amazing, and I really think that our listeners

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Speaker 2: are readers rather are in for it because I want

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Speaker 2: to tell everyone a little bit about the guests and

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Speaker 2: what he's accomplished and does well.

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Speaker 1: His guest has really made some iconic moves in the biz.

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Speaker 1: I first encountered our guests putting hot dogs on a

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Speaker 1: Who's that? And then found out that he puts mister

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Speaker 1: Daris in her amazing garments. But Rihanna's some amazing garments.

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Speaker 1: Has worked with her atport of it. As we said

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Speaker 1: of the Victoria Stephen Fashion Show.

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Speaker 2: Executi Victoria Executive not just fashion show and Victoria and.

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Speaker 1: Pink was I I might step into a pink moment.

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Speaker 1: I've been in a little bit of a pink moment.

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Speaker 2: No one understands how good they look in pink. It's

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Speaker 2: actually really culture number eight. No one understands how good

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Speaker 2: they look in pink. You look amazing and pink you do?

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Speaker 1: Everyone? Please welcome our guess, Adam Salmon.

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Speaker 4: Wow, this is a gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: I always love when we have a man with a

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Speaker 1: How often have you been complimented in your timber on

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. Just let's just say you gave

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it does always time to be down here and.

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Speaker 4: Then I have my moments. I have my moments where

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maintained decorum exactly. So how have you been with

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Speaker 4: I mean, so the models are coming in, it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: You're great respectors and admirers of the icons.

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Speaker 4: And then she came straight up to me and held

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Speaker 1: I think models feel a particular not even just models,

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Speaker 4: I think I have like a working history with so

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Speaker 4: And I think, like, you know, it takes them back

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the emotion must come from

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Speaker 4: Of what the aesthetic was. You have so many boxes to.

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Speaker 1: Check making them look good, the brand look good, and

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Speaker 4: I think what I keep saying is bringing the best

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Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I feel like the number one thing I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would hope that that would be beyond

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Speaker 4: just the Victoria's Secret Fashion show, right, Like like if

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Speaker 4: I have my own brand, like doing the castings with

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Speaker 1: I just feel like you, I think the reason why

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Speaker 1: I am so emotionally I've kept this. I've kept all

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Speaker 1: of your pieces for for years now because they were

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Speaker 1: my proportions or whatever, all obviously unique to me. But

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Speaker 1: like there I have my little like things where I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I feel like.

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Speaker 1: Your clothes automatically made me feel just based on where

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's been your signature is just having

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Speaker 1: Because the ritual for our generation has been like I'm

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Speaker 4: Them anytime like a measuring tape comes out, though everyone

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that that's what costume design taught me

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Speaker 4: What's so fascinating about it is like I think everybody

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Speaker 4: No, I I think they would be thrilled if I

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Speaker 4: So but I mean, but it's a joy, right because

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Speaker 4: there's a huge other part of the ship happening at

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Speaker 4: the same time. It's just such a massive company, so

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Speaker 2: Yes, I feel like if it was when I met you,

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Speaker 2: like we met because you're close friends with Greta, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the best and then it's then at the time

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Speaker 2: that's such a fun because you're such like a fun

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Speaker 2: what's gonna empower women?

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00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: And so I guess like it that's like fun you.

436
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 2: Can bring to Victoria's Secret, which is why I think

437
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 2: it's like such a genius brand for you, because the

438
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 2: show is gonna be fun. It should be fun, and

439
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 2: so just speaking to the fun that's gonna be on stage, like,

440
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: there's also the musical performances, which I think are such

441
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 2: like an intrinsic amazing part of the show. Can you

442
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about what it's been like to

443
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: bring the artists in and how that's come together.

444
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I keep saying like there's a reason why I

445
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 4: stepped away from pop stars, you know, Like no, I'm

446
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 4: just kidding. It's been incredible, Like it's so fun to

447
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: like enter the arena and actually the kind of build

448
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 4: the arena, you know, and like like someone we have

449
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 4: performing is Carol G.

450
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: It's so cool.

451
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Like she's just and I met her

452
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 4: in Paris over the summer and she's just like so beautiful,

453
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 4: so lovely, just so incredible.

454
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 1: And so huge deal yeah, huge deal.

455
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 4: So I mean like it's just like a lot, a lot,

456
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 4: a lot of fun and like like building that world

457
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 4: and helping them bring that show to life and create

458
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: the fun is you know, it's a dream come true.

459
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 4: It really is. Who what's what's the full what's like

460
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: the roster for So the lineup is Madison Beer. We

461
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: love Madison Be Love Be Oh my gosh, she's so major.

462
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 4: I mean she's debuting a new song.

463
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah that show like really vib but intentional.

464
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Madison Beer and then Twice, Yeah I love Twice,

465
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 4: and then I'm Carol G. And then Missy Elliott.

466
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: That's pretty staff that that kind of appeals to all sectors. Yeah,

467
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: not that like you're that's what the you know, idea is,

468
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: but it just it's a great that's a great lineup.

469
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great lineup. Twice is performing in Pink.

470
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,360
Speaker 4: We're bringing pink back to the.

471
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Speaker 5: Show, which I love, which is so we heard I

472
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 5: know that's gonna be Yeah, she's just she's been a

473
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 5: long time supporter of mine too, so like it's it's

474
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Speaker 5: really really fun to bring bring some people back into

475
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 5: the fold.

476
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: We met on a Dolly Parton video.

477
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were working on a Dolly Parton video.

478
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and like and I was dressing the extras

479
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 4: and then they're like the last day before I was

480
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Speaker 4: going to leave there, like, Doll you dress Amy sitdaras

481
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 4: like yeah, hell, and then so I had to like

482
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: sketch and then I had to stay up all night

483
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 4: and make stuff for her. And then we went down

484
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 4: and had like the best time. And then Judy, Dolly's assistant,

485
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 4: was next to her, and then and then Dolly came

486
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 4: over and was I you know, Amy said like what's

487
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 4: what what are you holding? And then she was like, oh,

488
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 4: Dolly snacks, And Dolly came around the corner and said,

489
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Speaker 4: the smoky sausage is a my face for.

490
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: Mine too.

491
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

492
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: Wait, speaking of sausages and Amy, those those simple Times

493
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: videos were like I think that was the first time

494
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: I figured it out that like this was her creative

495
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: team yeah, because I don't think she did that for

496
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: for the for the hosting one, for the entertaining one.

497
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no that No, she didn't do it

498
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 4: for I like you. And then I did Simple Times

499
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: Cross for Poor People with her, and and and I

500
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 4: worked on all the photos and all the crafts and everything,

501
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: and then and then we decided to make these videos afterwards.

502
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 4: It just like just for her And it was so fun.

503
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: Was that? Was that all shot in a day? No? No, no,

504
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: was it was shot over like the course of six

505
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 4: months or something. That's set was the same that was set? Yeah. Yeah,

506
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 4: the videos were set or I think over two or

507
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 4: three days, but the photos were the photos were Yeah,

508
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 4: of course it took forever, that book. And it was

509
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: so fun but still so good. It's still so good

510
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 4: to flip. I have my my Jerry blank. Oh my god. Yeah,

511
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: it's toasted. You can buy them at cure thrift. She

512
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: sells them, oh really, And then she sells dumb dumb

513
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: ones that look are oh perfect.

514
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: I bet you are a beast to go thrift shopping with. Yeah,

515
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: do you like it?

516
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't really thrift anymore.

517
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, incredible eye.

518
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 4: Sometimes, but like sometimes it's like, you know, it's just

519
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 4: it's changed, right. I feel like they take all the

520
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: good stuff, Like you really got to like parse through it. Yeah,

521
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: do you deep hop? Do you do go on that?

522
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: I sometimes there's it is just like it it just

523
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: feels so much less like connected in a way. It's

524
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: just like you're not touching it, You're not, Like I

525
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I guess I dressed in a uniform. You know,

526
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: that's my drag.

527
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 4: So like I like, I dress in a uniform and

528
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 4: then I buy the same thing over and over and over.

529
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 4: So like you know, now now I'm like trying to

530
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: elevate it. Yes, what's the template that you're sort of

531
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 4: like iterating on of mine? Yes, Like it's always like

532
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: a jacket and like kind of like a car hardy

533
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 4: pant and like the right T shirt or like the

534
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: right polo, you know like that. And now I'm like, oh,

535
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: what's a belt? I'm like, oh, I don't know.

536
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: I don't know why I thought I was an Adam

537
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: Salmon drug today it's because of my It's about the

538
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: belt jean, because jeans and the belt and I feel

539
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 2: like that's you and I almost wore black cowboy boots.

540
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: But then I was like, no one's going to see you, yeah,

541
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: and they would hurt.

542
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: I used to wear Cowboy boots exclusively.

543
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: I know, I was trying to give it.

544
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: And then and then Levi's five of five's orange tab orange.

545
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and I have thirty pairs of them. And

546
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: then I would have matt because I don't like mismatching, dnim.

547
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 4: It really irks me, so like you know, so I

548
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 4: would have the matching jacket to the matching pant and

549
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: then cowboy boots. And then I used to have my

550
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,959
Speaker 4: hair in like a big pumpadoor with a mullet.

551
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's talk about men's fashion.

552
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 5: What what what what?

553
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: What are you vibing on for twenty twenty six, not

554
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: just in terms of the Adam Salmon uniform, but like,

555
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: what what should we be looking at for the six

556
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: gay guys that listen.

557
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 4: I I think it's a good question. Actually, I think

558
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 4: big pants are out. Big pants are out. Yeah. I

559
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: think they hit a long yeah yeah, and I think

560
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 4: we're going back and like the skinny jean thing is

561
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 4: coming back, Like sorry, but you want to see body

562
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 4: see yeah.

563
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I kind of feel like I made friends

564
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: with the big pants lead because being from Long Island,

565
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: it's very hard for me to sort of separate from

566
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: like a fitted pant. And then you look at them

567
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, yeah no, And so to hear

568
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: that they're now coming back is.

569
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: Do you guys have anything that you won't wear? Won't

570
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 4: you wear like that? You're like that that's not for me?

571
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Can I tell you what I'm really over? And I

572
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: think it's as a result of seeing myself.

573
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: In it short suits, like short shorts on the runway,

574
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: shorts on the shorts on the red carpet, and I

575
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: think it was a great look. I was just like,

576
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: for some reason, I think it's always next to impossible.

577
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: To the right shoe when you're wearing a short. I

578
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: like an event. I was gonna say, I still haven't

579
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: made up my mind on Caprice for me, okay, because

580
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: because of my leg length. Yeah, and also his legs

581
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: are very thick.

582
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like that you guys are

583
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: very like in like a fashion era though like I'm

584
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 4: uniform man, you know, but like I feel like you

585
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: guys like really like to experiment.

586
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: But we aspire to uniform. But then I feel a

587
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: little bit Elizabeth Holme Steve Jobs.

588
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: Exactly in that way. No, no, no, like like I

589
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: it's like it's a constant tweaking, right. Yeah.

590
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: What do you make of the phrase don't wear what

591
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: the fashion designers make? Where what the fashion designers wear?

592
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: Wow, it's a good content. Pretty interesting.

593
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like people be copying your style

594
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: instead of wearing well, obviously they should wear what you're creating.

595
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: I'm I guess for me, I'm more interested in drussing

596
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 4: other people than I am myself, and and I try

597
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 4: to give as much to that as part possibles. Then

598
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: whenever I like, I like, I kind of just don't

599
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: want to think about it.

600
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: It taints it if you start blurring the line between

601
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: dressing yourself and dressing other people.

602
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 4: A little bit, really a little bit or it's just

603
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: like like I'd rather give than you know, which is.

604
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: Rather.

605
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 4: I remember that time that we hung out and we

606
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 4: went through that book of Birthday. I almost brought it.

607
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Actually, Birthday says about the birthday and what you're made of.

608
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: It is it is a tome and it's this thick

609
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: this why I need this yea to a full spread

610
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: on every single day of the year.

611
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so every and everyone, you know, everyone like

612
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: mine is like the day of the soul searcher, you know,

613
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 4: so like that, and then it gives your strengths and

614
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 4: your weaknesses brought it. Okay, well we can do a

615
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 4: dial in and okay, and then and then if you

616
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: come over, you know that, I'll I'll read you your

617
00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 4: your birthday, March. Mine is March your yeah, Mar fifth,

618
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: March tenth.

619
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well you're halfway between me and the IDEs

620
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: dangerous stay there much, beware them, wear them.

621
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 4: What do you do You still live by the day

622
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: of the soul search or do you still how?

623
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: How?

624
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: How?

625
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 4: Textually it's uncanny, really, it's so annoying. Yeah. Yeah, I

626
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: like my weaknesses or that I'm withdrawn and that I'm

627
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 4: long suffering, long suffering, suffering rough. But it's also like

628
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: you're not supposed to look at them as a weakness,

629
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 4: you know, It's like like it could be a positive too.

630
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 1: So the phrase long suffering has always been fabulous exactly.

631
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: Any supporting actress nominee is playing someone who's long suffering.

632
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody wants to play one.

633
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the long suffering wise suffering.

634
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you continue to be that. That's the goal everyone.

635
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 4: Ye do you remember what mine was? I don't remember

636
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 4: what you're really were, and so I don't remember a thing.

637
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just remember that, like I was kind

638
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: of like weighg whether or not it was true because

639
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't like being told necessarily who I am.

640
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 4: So even maybe that's part of it defiant, you know.

641
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: And then you're like, well, I.

642
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Will say, astrologically, this new thing that I've been not

643
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: fixated on, but that that is resonating with me as

644
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: a scorpio is everyone's constantly like, oh, you're a scorpion.

645
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, sure. But the thing that I

646
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: think is particularly true now more not more so than ever.

647
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: But just what I'm thinking about is like people will

648
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: project things onto me. They're like, you must be thinking this,

649
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: and I'm actually wasn't, but you your idea of me

650
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: is that I think that whatever, maybe maybe that was

651
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: in there. I just really have to flip through the

652
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Speaker 1: book again. I'm going to call you tell you yeah, yeah,

653
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look, and I'm gonna look today. I'm gonna

654
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: go to the office later and I'm gonna I'll talk

655
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: that is it possible for you to take a picture

656
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: of my page?

657
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: Well, well that's just as good is going to yourself.

658
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dense.

659
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: There's a lot there.

660
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: I've accepted an embraced pretty much everything about the way

661
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: that astrology is right and write about me. I was

662
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: gonna say right and wrong about me, but it's not

663
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: wrong about me. It is that annoying thing of like, oh,

664
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: read me down.

665
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: And it makes a great gift to like if you're

666
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: like I don't know what to get this person for

667
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: their birthday or whatever, like get the birth the book

668
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: of Birthdays. That's what it is.

669
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Speaker 2: So I started seeing someone who is resistant to astrology,

670
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: and as a joke, I got him like a little

671
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: book about scorpios and he's reading it and he's like, oh,

672
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: it's kind of scary.

673
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: There's a there's a vintage book called Gay Love Signs

674
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: Gay so good. Yeah, yeah, because it's like you're both

675
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: into Jackstraps and like you know, it's like like ridiculous,

676
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 4: you know, things so recommended for that. Okay, you have

677
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 4: a copy I have a copy of Yeah, you know

678
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 4: all the book and Summers read the poetry book. It's

679
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,959
Speaker 4: just a good, incredible poetry. Yeah, she writes about house plants,

680
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: you know, like it's it's incredible, beautiful stuff.

681
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a thing that we're missing. Like

682
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: you should like like tell Adrianna to come out with

683
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: a book of poem.

684
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 4: She would crush. Yeah, yeah, she would actually crush that.

685
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: I think you have your like they feel a kinship

686
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: to you. I think you should like obviously.

687
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: Maybe before the show, I'll bring them all together and

688
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: read them a poem and then and then they could

689
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 4: I was doing the show notes the other day and

690
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: it was like maybe one of the most stressful things,

691
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: and I wrote a poem about it. And then I

692
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: was just like I can't do this, but now I

693
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: have a poem. This is also what I wanted to

694
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 4: ask with you coming in.

695
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: It's like, what is like the backstage moment to you

696
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: that you wish more people could understand.

697
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: I think I, like, you know, like on the on

698
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 4: the runway, right, I guess I went into this like

699
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: really wanting to tell stories right, like you know, the

700
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: soul searcher, like wanted to tell the story right and

701
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: like have these sort of like emotional moments, but like

702
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: you can't really ask that of that many audiences, right,

703
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: and so I understand the story or wouldn't to like

704
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: understand like a deeper story, right, Like you know, like

705
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: on the Runway, it's like all about power and about

706
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 4: like you know, sexy and like kind of I'm contextualizing

707
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: it in the theme of day and night right like

708
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: the show, so it kind of gives it this theme.

709
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 4: But I wanted to tell more stories, right and then

710
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 4: and then I think that the actual stories probably play

711
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 4: out in quieter moments backstage, right, like and the connection

712
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 4: like what I just had with Gig yesterday, or like

713
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 4: the fact that Adrian is like holding on to me

714
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 4: and I'll remember that forever, And I think that like

715
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 4: you know, I think like the sisterhood of it all too,

716
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 4: and like even just building the looks on them and

717
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: and doing that making sure that they feel confident and ready.

718
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 4: Like that's the part that like I think the people

719
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 4: don't get to experience, but that I hope sort of

720
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 4: transcends onto the Runway because that's what like the joy

721
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 4: and like the fun part is, right.

722
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: Do you see a lot of community amongst the girls

723
00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: so much?

724
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 4: That's great, so much, and like you know, and then

725
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: I think, like in the past, they would be like

726
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 4: who has the best butt? You know that? But yeah,

727
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: but now it's more of like I'm so excited to

728
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 4: see sometime, I'm so excited to see Bella. I'm so

729
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 4: excited to see you know, this person. And that's like

730
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: the fun part to see them all get excited about

731
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: different ones. Well.

732
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is what I was saying earlier about

733
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: the emotion of it. It's like it's it's it's a

734
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: it's a new lease on it. Like I feel like

735
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: in the past it was it was icky because it

736
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: was top down, and now it's beautiful because it's a

737
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: bottom up.

738
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Speaker 2: You know.

739
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: It's like they are the ones who like can create

740
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: this and set the tone for what this can be

741
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: and like have it sort of rise from from from

742
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: what it was, which you know, I don't want to

743
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: keep bringing that up, but it's just it's it's a

744
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: really beautiful, meaningful thing that you guys are sort of

745
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: giving this a new life.

746
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it shows like the power of it,

747
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: you know, Like I think we all have stories of

748
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 4: the brand of like growing up, you know, and like

749
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 4: like like your mom or your sister, like whatever, you know,

750
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 4: your friend or whatever it is and like and able

751
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 4: to be like, this is actually your story. For me

752
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: to be able to say that to a model, this

753
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: is actually your story. It's not my story. It's not

754
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 4: that you know and like to take it and make

755
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: it happen on the runway, I think is like the

756
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: what I'm really trying to do, and hopefully we can

757
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 4: kind of tell the more of the stories in the

758
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: surround as well.

759
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the fact that just the mere fact

760
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: that Pink is having a moment will be fantastic. Yeah.

761
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: I mean also like like we talk, we obviously talk

762
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: week in and week out about pop culture and like

763
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: what's happening in it and the VS. Fashion Show is

764
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: is a cultural institution. I mean, it's model culture. It's

765
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: one of those things that everyone knows what it is.

766
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: So the fact that it's going to come back in

767
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: a brand new, fresh way, it's like it's one of

768
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 2: a few things that we have that we can all

769
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: look at and watch and like learn from and get

770
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: it excited about and you know, be enthusiastic about for

771
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: years to come.

772
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: So we're excited that you're doing it because you're the best,

773
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: and thank you.

774
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 2: And now we have to ask you the question of

775
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: our podcasts, the central question, which is what was the

776
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: culture Adam Salmon that made you say culture was for you?

777
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: I think for me it was competitive cheerleading.

778
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so.

779
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: Another fastest of you that you know you share this

780
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: with Hannah Einbinder. I know it was a competitive cheerleader.

781
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: So this is not the first guest we've had to

782
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: talk about this. But how serious was it?

783
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: How deep was it?

784
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 4: Well, we were junior limp in gold medalists. Yeah, we

785
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: were n c A like you know the thing like

786
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if you watch cheer and stuff like that,

787
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 4: but it was like n c A, like the whole thing.

788
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 4: And where was how the jacket is in Texas?

789
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: You know, h.

790
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: C s I the best in the nation. You know

791
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: who we are cheer station with that big booming voice.

792
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming you are. You are the one who.

793
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: Throws, throws and tumbles, and you know I was not

794
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: the best like I was. I would think I was decent.

795
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: I was good, and I could have gone to college

796
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: for it and like done it, but I wanted to

797
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: go to art school, as you know one does. But

798
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 4: you know, it taught me so much about like we

799
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 4: had this thing called the spirit stick, you know, and

800
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 4: you know it was forced, it was real, and it's

801
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: not about how good you are. It's about, like, you know,

802
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: how much you prop other people up and how much

803
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 4: you know, energy you show. And I think I think

804
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: about that a lot. I think, you know, it surrounded

805
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: me with women, you know from the jump and like strong, powerful, funny,

806
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: you know, like ridiculous women you know, you know, and

807
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: like we're like tumbling. It's like and it's also a

808
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 4: group thing too, be friends tru exactly. So you know,

809
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: I think so I think that that set me up

810
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: to be able to be like, oh, I can kind

811
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 4: of do anything I want to do. And especially in Texas,

812
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: you know, in the nineties that like it was like

813
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 4: a that was not the thing for a guy to

814
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: be doing part of Texas, said of Waco.

815
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: Outside of Waco, so it's like in the middle. It's

816
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: not like, uh, it's not like a little pocket of liberalism.

817
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: No no, no, no no. So yeah, it taught you

818
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: about support. It really did, like a literal like emotional support,

819
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 4: but also just in terms of like architecture of like, Okay,

820
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 4: I guess this has to be an anchor here and

821
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: this whatever, you know, I'm stretching here. Maybe it's like

822
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 4: you know, and like I guess we you know, you

823
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: don't think about it in the moment, but I think

824
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: as we get older, it's like, oh my god, like

825
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: holy shit, like these women like really did it and

826
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 4: like they were the supporting, you know system, So I.

827
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: Would be so curious. I don't think I've heard you

828
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: boom your voice. I feel like I've always heard you

829
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: at this frequency. I'm not saying I'm not putting on

830
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: the spot to do it now, but I'm just like,

831
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: do you feel like this choice to like place it

832
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: down here now is this way to like balance out

833
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: like just the usage of it.

834
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 4: Like in that in that way in that context. No,

835
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 4: I think that, Like, you know, I think sometimes we

836
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: like play characters of ourselves, right to try to figure

837
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: ourselves out. And like I was a theater, I was

838
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: in you know, cheerleading, and I think that I kind

839
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: of got out of my system. I feel more comfortable

840
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 4: in this, you know, like and I feel very comfortable

841
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 4: in myself right now, which is good. But I don't

842
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 4: feel like I need to be the booming person, Like

843
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 4: there there are better people for that boom boom, to

844
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: us to boom. Yeah, I'm looking to you to boom.

845
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: We can boom.

846
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: There's so much booming back in Wake Up.

847
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like, over, I don't want to boom, bitch.

848
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: You boom all the time. You know, well, I wouldn't

849
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: say you boom. I would say you shrieked.

850
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: You know what?

851
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure I shrieked you boom. I belt you, belt

852
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: you boom. I think you you one of the great

853
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: My favorite scream, my favorite scream. You have my favorite

854
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: scream of the poor, that's my favorite.

855
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: I is this just does does this resonate with us?

856
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, I'm about to say something so snobby,

857
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: but it's like, I Halloween's coming up. I'm like, I'm

858
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: not a big Halloween person because I have the privilege

859
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: of putting on costumes for my job. Exactly right.

860
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know's it's that thing where it's

861
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: like I have to like balance the scales a little bit.

862
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, where have you ever been a Halloween person?

863
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 4: I used to? Yeah, were you? I feel like in

864
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 4: college I was a big Aholleen person.

865
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, And then like.

866
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 4: Right, after college. Remember that year at j Justicpus Mugatu.

867
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: He was great. I don't think I've told Will that

868
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: you should well well, I remember, I remember, just yeah,

869
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: it was Halloween was my favorite day of the year

870
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: as a kid. It's always been like a little fraud

871
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: for me.

872
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I think there's something about

873
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 2: what you just said, Like maybe because I was always

874
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: in college, I was always doing sketch, so I was

875
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: always in costumes. I was dealing with so many costumes.

876
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: It was easy for me to just throw something together

877
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: because I had a prop bag and I traveled with

878
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: a prop closet because I was the director and I

879
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: had literally I was like, you.

880
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: Want to be a doctor? I got you, Maybe which

881
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: kind of doctor do you want to be? Do you

882
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: want to be a doctor who's covered in blood or

883
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: do you want to be fresh and new? Yeah? Both?

884
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: I got variations on my kind.

885
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: But it was like then, when the prop closet went

886
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: away and I didn't have all those things anymore, I

887
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: was like, oh, no, right, it becomes a day of

888
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: thing for me every year.

889
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: I tend to do fine, but but you have a

890
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: knack for putting together something at the last minute. One year, Matt,

891
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: this is when we were like broke and just didn't

892
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: have just resources, and so you put on like a

893
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: bob and you put on like one of Sudie's dresses,

894
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: and you were like a secretary at work.

895
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 4: I was a.

896
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: Secretary at the work party.

897
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: Who's going off, Oh my god, Like I just see

898
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 4: that's a gift. We should be able to bring it

899
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: together last minute.

900
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: I usually like, can can put the character together? And

901
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: then I look and I'm like, oh, I know who

902
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: she is, but I don't know what it is. Until

903
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: like one year I was just like god, I was

904
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: like I put together like it was like a like

905
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: a like a button, the white button down and like

906
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: a loose tie, and I got like lipstick on my

907
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: collar and I was like, I'm your husband having an affair,

908
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

909
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: Like and then we did.

910
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: You were ash ketchum and I was Jason Stackhouse. That

911
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: was a good I kind of want to bring back Jason.

912
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: Are you guys into like couples, you know, like pairing?

913
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: Oh you know what we did when we were when

914
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: we were Nicole Kimmen and Laura Dern. Yes, this is

915
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: right right after lives. He was I Patrian, that's a

916
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 2: really good and I was Nicole with a secret. Actually,

917
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: can you do some of the voice? Oh?

918
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: I want to.

919
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: I was Ranata, you were I was I was Laura.

920
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: You were Laura Dern with the eye patch, and I

921
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: was Nicole Kimman, just sort of in the corner.

922
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: I didn't do a voice. I was really quiet because

923
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: I had so many secrets. Laura didn't really have a

924
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: stock line that season. But if it were postseason two,

925
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: my I would have said, I will not not. You

926
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: know she did?

927
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: She did?

928
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: You want to know what it was?

929
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: What did I have one?

930
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: You weren't really doing? You did do it a bunch

931
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: it was.

932
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: I said thank you.

933
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 4: I said thank you.

934
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

935
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: I think that you had to remind him of that.

936
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: I said thank you.

937
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 4: Laura was so good A full decade ago at this point,

938
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 4: No stop, twenty twenty five, twenty fifteen, I think it

939
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 4: was twenty seventeen.

940
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was twenty seventeen. We're still we're still the

941
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: time being a decade since Big Little Lies. Jesus, We're

942
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: getting there. But is this your relationship with folloween too?

943
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: As someone who like has like an occupational relationship with costume.

944
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I felt like like I wouldn't do it

945
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: unless I went big, and I'm not good at the

946
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 4: last minute thing, right, So I my thought, you know,

947
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 4: I made a huge owl costume, you know one time

948
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 4: that was like hugelasses and put you know thing and

949
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: like took those shoes with like like the toes and

950
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: they put claws on it.

951
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Are your favorite?

952
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it?

953
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: Al?

954
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeahs to love right?

955
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: Well?

956
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: They say who they can see all the way around

957
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: their heads, they're so cute night.

958
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 4: And then they can move their heads all the way

959
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 4: around and bury into Do you like that? Yeah? I

960
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 4: like that.

961
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little eerie when you see

962
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: it in real life. You want a bottom. That's why

963
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: you want a bottom, Hoobert.

964
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if you were behind in the throws

965
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: and the bottom did a Linda Black sometimes?

966
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: What? Anyways?

967
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: Anyway, so yeah, als are amazing. They're so great so

968
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 2: competitive cheerleading. You did not go to college for it.

969
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: I did not go to college for I went to Brooklyn.

970
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: I'm taking to art school, you said, you said at

971
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 4: that point, and then I tried. There was actually a

972
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 4: New York City cheerleading squad, and so I was like,

973
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go do that. And then they were like, oh,

974
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: we do the parade and we do this and we

975
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: go to the events. And I was like, I'm not, No,

976
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: you just wanted to do it for the love of

977
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, yeah, I wanted to like keep the

978
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: competitive thing going, you know, squad. I think that they

979
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: did and your prat I could have, yeah, but I

980
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 4: think I was kind of like, you know, no, because

981
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: you know, competitive, the competitive cheerleading is the key word

982
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: to it, you know, because I think that like that

983
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: also taught me that ambition is rewarded, you know that,

984
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: Like so I mean because people are cut throat, you know,

985
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 4: like they're really like, you know, ambitious with that.

986
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: Prat summer, Yeah, there they are.

987
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: And would you say that's generally true in fashion, that

988
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: I mission is rewarded. Yeah, I would say, yeah, to

989
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: do good work and people notice and you know and

990
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 4: like and just keep keep at it. Like I think,

991
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: like Rick Owen said something like that, you just have

992
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 4: to keep producing and then like your voice will come through,

993
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: like your style will come through, right, And.

994
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: I think it's generally true for a lot of things.

995
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: Like just just keep the output, keep the output even

996
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: though it feels hard. Like the thing about my current

997
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: job is that we are expected to make things at

998
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: an unreasonable clip, like every week you're supposed to have

999
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: ideas and it's not totally sustainable, but it does like

1000
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: get you to just like it does like build you

1001
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: reps and like Matt knows this like it's it's just

1002
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: it just gives you some engine of like Okay, even

1003
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: if I don't feel like it, I gotta do it always,

1004
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: you know.

1005
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I was just thinking, like speaking of output

1006
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: or lack thereof, are you to blame for why Rihanna

1007
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: doesn't put out music anymore?

1008
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 4: And can you claim that I'm not going anywhere near that?

1009
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: Actually I still get so many dms to be like

1010
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 4: can you get this in front of her? Or like

1011
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: can you.

1012
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: Like no, But outside of that, though, like working with her,

1013
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: what can you what can you share about working with

1014
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: her and how she is as a collaborator.

1015
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: Because I think everyone's most fascinated with her than maybe anyone.

1016
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she she truly is incredible, Like she

1017
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: really is so inspiring to be around, Like she's so

1018
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 4: singular in her vision. You know, and that like and

1019
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: we have a shorthand you know, and so she really

1020
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: would like trust me to be able to like out

1021
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 4: output my best, you know. And I just I cannot

1022
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 4: say enough good things about her. It's so amazing, you know.

1023
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: I'm so happy that she had a girl, you know,

1024
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: Like it's just so beautiful and like, and to watch

1025
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 4: her become a mother because she's she's always talked about that,

1026
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 4: like even having her cousins you know, and like kids around,

1027
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 4: like she's always like holding them. So I'm really really

1028
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 4: happy for her on a personal level, you know. But

1029
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: she's just spectacular, Like, yeah, that's beautiful, and everything that

1030
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: people say about how she smells is also true. How

1031
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: would you describe the notes? There's there's been different chapters,

1032
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: but like she layers, so there's like like a vanilla

1033
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 4: with like a little like amber, you know, and then

1034
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 4: there's like a hint of like a floral in there too,

1035
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: like but it really is like a signature thing.

1036
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: And even she wasn't able to get you into Housewives,

1037
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask.

1038
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: No, I've never watched one episode your what's your allergy

1039
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: to it? Because I think, well, once I start, then

1040
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: I'll be locked inside for you know, the next year

1041
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 4: watching it. But don't you want to be like Ree

1042
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 4: and just stay in and watch Housewives? Also not going

1043
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 4: to quest.

1044
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: I got it.

1045
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 4: I can't do it. I just watched Game of Throne.

1046
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 4: So I just rewatched, watched, and I'm like and like,

1047
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 4: that's exhausting and it's saying that, you know, but the

1048
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 4: Housewives is something that doesn't really demand much of you

1049
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: the viewer. You can just fold your laundry ass and

1050
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 4: not even watch the screen. But I feel like I'm

1051
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: you know, I would get so hyped into it that

1052
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: I would I would be picking fights, you know, like

1053
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 4: outside I would be like, oh really, you know, I

1054
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 4: think I think that like that it would rub off

1055
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: on me and not and maybe not the best way.

1056
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: I've we've gotten people into it, and they've and we've

1057
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: watched them become more augmentative, like we we we know

1058
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 2: someone who I don't think they would ever have done

1059
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: something like this, but probably like I introduced into Housewives

1060
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: and then one time they started up with me at

1061
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: a dinner in front of people, and I was like,

1062
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: I did this by getting you in.

1063
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: I knew it.

1064
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew that was not to say

1065
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: that was entirely all.

1066
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: What that was intrinsic things about it person, But I

1067
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: was like, I was like the fact that.

1068
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: I presented something to you that would create a reality

1069
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: in your mind that it's okay to do this at

1070
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: a dinner is my fault?

1071
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: Like you were perfectly fine without this in your life. No,

1072
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: I dis'gree not your fault at all. But then you're

1073
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: you're implying that you are argumented it that that you

1074
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: get into fights.

1075
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: Are you competitive? Truly? Culture, I don't know you to be.

1076
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: I don't know you to be like a like a

1077
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 4: a person who like direct. I'm pretty direct. It takes

1078
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 4: a lot to get me like escalated, but like I'm

1079
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 4: but even to get there, I'll be super direct with you.

1080
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: Well that's leadership. Yeah, I feel like that's what leader

1081
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: That's what leadership is. That's what directing is. It's making

1082
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: decisions that you It's not about being right all the

1083
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 2: time exactly.

1084
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: I think that's something that I love.

1085
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 4: Bad ideas, you know, like like all those things.

1086
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, well they get you somewhere as opposed to

1087
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: wishy washiness or you know, like a lot of like

1088
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: like a bow to other people's thoughts and ideas in

1089
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: too many like ways to try to include everyone, and

1090
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: then the decision that's being made is a confused one

1091
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: or one that is not strong. So I think it

1092
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: takes a really decisive person to be a leader, because

1093
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: then we're getting somewhere.

1094
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: We might not be where we thought we'd be, but

1095
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: you have to be decisive to.

1096
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 4: I've been thinking a lot about the difference at being

1097
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: nice and kind, you know, and then well, I think

1098
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: like nice, you know, it's like it's like there's like

1099
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: a southern you know, sort of you know, genteel about it, right,

1100
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: And but then kind doesn't mean that you have to

1101
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 4: be nice, you know. I think you can be direct.

1102
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: You can be like straightforward and still be kind about it.

1103
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: But you can be more direct and like, you know,

1104
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 4: have a have a heavier hand, right. And so I've

1105
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 4: been thinking about that a lot, just about my approach,

1106
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: because everyone's like, you're such a nice guy, you know.

1107
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I don't want people to say that,

1108
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: because it does have a stigma.

1109
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: It does have a little bit of a maybe this

1110
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: is from being gay too.

1111
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 4: Exactly, do you feel a little way in the world

1112
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 4: so it's sort of.

1113
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: Like I do feel like when you're a gay person

1114
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: and you are like engaging with the leadership, there is

1115
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: a thing where it's like you can sort of tell

1116
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: that people are waiting for their opportunity to invalidate you, right, you.

1117
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? And so what a nice guy.

1118
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, don't don't, don't, don't let the

1119
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: word out there, get out that I'm weak, yeah, because

1120
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: or that I can be walked over because I'm a

1121
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: nice guy.

1122
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm a gay guy.

1123
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 4: He said that in a really kind way, is like

1124
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 4: even it's even that is like yeah, yeah, I think like,

1125
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 4: oh that was cutting, but in a really kind way,

1126
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 4: because like disappointment is like the thing that people don't

1127
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 4: want to touch it all, sure, you know, And and

1128
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 4: blowing up has never worked for me ever, never worked

1129
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 4: for me. Really, It's worked for me a couple of times.

1130
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: But I feel like I would this is kind of

1131
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: a little bit lazy, but I feel like kindness is gestural.

1132
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: It's an action, and nice as like a tone or mannerism,

1133
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 1: a manner of speaking. Literally, like like he told me

1134
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: that in a nice way, not in a kind way,

1135
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: he was kind and that he like, you know, sent

1136
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: me a fruit basket when you know I suffered. I suffered,

1137
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: was like.

1138
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: I just I feel like I can always tell when

1139
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm being condescended to, and I would just so much

1140
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: rather someone be like, this is what I need from you,

1141
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: and this is what it is so that we can

1142
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: get here.

1143
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 4: Great.

1144
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: I know where I stand with you, and I know

1145
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: what I need to do as opposed to Yeah, So

1146
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: what I guess what we're thinking is.

1147
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: It's just like I hate don't equivocate. I hate this energy,

1148
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 4: and I think that like doing this show too, Like

1149
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 4: I've really had to put my you know, you know,

1150
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 4: a channel big energy for it because it's not just

1151
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 4: the clothes, and it's not just the models and the performers,

1152
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: but it's the music and you know, like the stage

1153
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 4: design and like like the vision right like it once

1154
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: you start to give little pieces away of that, then

1155
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: like that's when people chip away or like you know,

1156
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: and then if you're nice about it, like so I've

1157
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 4: had to be really really direct and be like that's

1158
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: not what I want. This is what I want, you know,

1159
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: and and try to get that across because it's it's huge,

1160
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: like the expectations are huge, like you know, like the

1161
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 4: vision is big, and like I wanted I want those

1162
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 4: two things to match up. So it's been an interesting

1163
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: exercise for me.

1164
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: What was your pre performance or pre event mentality and

1165
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: competitive cheerleading?

1166
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 4: Does it?

1167
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: Does it mirror anything now before a big event comes up,

1168
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: Like I think Matt and I learned a lot about

1169
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: ourselves and each other before like the culture words, let's

1170
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: say where it's like, oh fuck, this big thing is

1171
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: about to happen, Like we we better buckle down right right,

1172
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: Like I just got to chill, you know, like like

1173
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: what was your what was like what was like cheerleading out?

1174
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, does that be to what like via vs

1175
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: F show? Like a VS show?

1176
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 4: Adam? I think that like cheerleading at was fearless, right,

1177
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 4: it was like like I don't care, I'm doing it.

1178
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 4: I know what to do, And it was like a

1179
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: burst of energy before before an event. Yeah, yeah, you know,

1180
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 4: and like meaning like like it was precision, right, it

1181
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 4: was like but it was it was yeah, practice, but

1182
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 4: it was more of like like let's cow you know,

1183
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: it's like lots of it, like got of energy and

1184
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 4: stuff like that. So like so there is that. But

1185
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 4: then now it's more more methodical and more like thought out,

1186
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to think more ahead of the whole thing, right,

1187
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 4: Like you know, I'm like Coach Taylor from Friday and Lights,

1188
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 4: you know that, Like I'm thinking more like that, like

1189
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 4: trying to get ahead of everything as opposed to like

1190
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 4: reacting to it in the moment, right.

1191
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: Because you're trying to communicate all these things visually, you know, sonically, whatever, emotionally,

1192
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: but you are only in control of the delivery system

1193
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: to a certain.

1194
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: Point completely, yeah, and especially to forty five to fifty

1195
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 4: million people, Like there's only so much I can control

1196
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: of that, and you know, and and it really is

1197
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 4: just about focusing on the present, focusing in the future,

1198
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, focusing on like what I can do, as

1199
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: opposed to like like sort of like all the noise

1200
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: that's you know, coming in. But but I want to

1201
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 4: make a spectacle, right Like this is like I mean,

1202
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: it's such a thing. It's like the same thing with

1203
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 4: the words. I'm sure you're like why I got this

1204
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 4: idea and I want to do this and I want

1205
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: to do that.

1206
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how are you with feedback?

1207
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: Because like, like in terms of like what everyone says,

1208
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: because you know, especially with Lauingderie, it's very sensitive. I

1209
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 2: would imagine that it makes people feel all different kinds

1210
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: of ways. And you know, obviously Savage fenty is like

1211
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: attached to Rihanna and her brand, and there's like, you know,

1212
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: it almost feels like I don't know if this is true,

1213
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 2: but because she's so bold and impenetrable and so assured,

1214
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: and then people have different ideas about Victoria's Secret, I'm

1215
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 2: sure that there's going to be and already has been

1216
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: like lots of like feedback and weighing in and stuff

1217
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: like that.

1218
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: So are you prepared for are that? And how will

1219
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: you prepare for that? And how do you deal with that?

1220
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: In general?

1221
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 4: I think I'm like, I know, I can't be everything

1222
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 4: to everyone, right, right, And I think that, like, you know,

1223
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 4: I love Savage xpinity, I love it, I love Rihanna,

1224
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 4: and and I think there's room for both, right, Like

1225
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 4: I think that, Like I think people want it, like

1226
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: to go at it, but it's actually truly it's its

1227
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: own world. I think like Victoria's Secret is like its

1228
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: own world. It's like like two totally different things. And

1229
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: like I think what I'm doing here is a totally

1230
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 4: different thing than what I was doing there. So so

1231
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 4: I think that, like I know, I can't be everything

1232
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 4: to everyone. I think it's more about like focusing on

1233
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: what I can do and like the vision and like

1234
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 4: bringing like what only I can bring to this, and

1235
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 4: like seeing the opportunities of like it's not only here,

1236
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: but like you know, the photo shoots, like the stories

1237
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 4: we can tell around you know, around the brand, that

1238
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,959
Speaker 4: that's really going to bring it to life.

1239
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1240
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1241
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: Does the job require you to be in a lot

1242
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: of places or do you get to like work out

1243
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: of New York.

1244
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: Mostly it's mostly New York. And then we have a

1245
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 4: thing in Columbus as well, so we kind of go

1246
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 4: back and forth. And there's like a whole mock store there,

1247
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 4: so we get to so we get to see it

1248
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 4: all mocked up, you know before you know, like the

1249
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 4: season sets in the retail space in the retail space. Yeah, yeah,

1250
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: so so I love seeing that and it's just like,

1251
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if you read that Demna

1252
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: thing this week that you know he's felt like a Blinciaga.

1253
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 4: He had like carrots and potatoes, but he's a chef,

1254
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 4: you know, but now at Gucci he has like, you know,

1255
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: all the ingredients and stuff like that, and I you know,

1256
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 4: and I was like it sounds bitchy, but like it

1257
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 4: really I'm like Advictory's secret. I'm like, oh my god,

1258
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 4: I have like a whole team, Like there's resources, there's

1259
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 4: like things to help me be able to keep my

1260
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: eye in the vision as opposed to like be in

1261
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 4: the weeds of things, because I think so much of

1262
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 4: my career I was in the weeds of the whole thing.

1263
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 4: But how are you with delegating? Fantastic? I love it.

1264
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 4: It's so fun.

1265
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: Love did you realize you can do it? Yeah?

1266
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

1267
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just it feels so cool. I

1268
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: remember when Greta was telling me at least I think

1269
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: we're just telling you that's the same time that like

1270
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: you were you're moving to BS.

1271
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 4: I was just like, that is so perfect. I feel

1272
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: like if you've made me feel very good in clothes,

1273
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, I just just that you can.

1274
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: Look up the canvas, stop stop at him.

1275
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: But just like you know, if you think it's like

1276
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: scaling that to.

1277
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: This this brand that like has a lot of emotional

1278
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: history with people is really powerful.

1279
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 4: So it's really exciting and I think you I can't

1280
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: remember the show. Thank you me too. I'm so excited

1281
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 4: to you for the sixteenth.

1282
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: Actually to be done forge like go go, like so

1283
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to like watch it.

1284
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm gonna be like that. I'm wearing like

1285
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: a GoPro, Like everyone's like you need to have a

1286
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 4: camera and a GoPro and a thing, you know, so

1287
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 4: the you can like see the whole thing put in

1288
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 4: the go Pro. It's like there's like a magnetized one o.

1289
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 4: We're like a little necklace with a thing. So there's

1290
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 4: been like that's like the footage that like so you

1291
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 4: can kind of see what I'm doing right before the

1292
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 4: models go. Yeah, I think like I like I'm gonna

1293
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: be like in tears afterwards, Like it's just gonna be

1294
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 4: It's gonna be so fun exciting next year, next year,

1295
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 4: next year. Right around the corner do you want would

1296
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: you design like a jewelry moment for the go Pro

1297
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 4: if it's if you're wearing it like on a necklace or.

1298
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: I know, you can get together exactly.

1299
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 4: There's so many other dazzled things to get together. Sorry, sorry,

1300
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 4: it up is going always the Dreamer.

1301
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: Now is the time.

1302
01:00:59,200 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: It's time.

1303
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: Don't think so, honey, Adam. This is our sixty second

1304
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 2: segment on this podcast, Lost Cultureist Us. We've been having

1305
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: it since episode what Why would this one be any different?

1306
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: When we take an item and culture and we sort

1307
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: of look at it and throw it to the ground

1308
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: and stomp on it a lot.

1309
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: And I have a thing. I have a thing. Okay, God, Taylor,

1310
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: apparently this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many

1311
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: as time starts now, I don't think so, honey.

1312
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: The discourse on life of a show girl, congratulations, you

1313
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: got what you wanted.

1314
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: You made it not fun.

1315
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: You have officially gotten to the point where you're screaming

1316
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: at someone that they're stupid because they like music. This

1317
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 2: is pathetic. I don't care what you think about it,

1318
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 2: and I do mean you everyone out there. All that

1319
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 2: matters is my experience with it, which has been very

1320
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: similar to other Taylor Swift albums. Eight songs that I'm

1321
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: fucking obsessed with, three that I think are pretty good,

1322
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 2: and one that I fucking hate it that I'll probably

1323
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: love in nine minutes in nine months, nine minutes, even

1324
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: because I fucking and.

1325
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: That's the way it goes.

1326
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: It is ridiculous that it has gotten to this place

1327
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: where you make a full assessment about because they like

1328
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: pop songs. Please get a grip posting on your close friends,

1329
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: ten stories about how you don't understand something no one

1330
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: required you understand it, Like, don't understand it, go do

1331
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 2: your own thing. You don't like that she's ubiquitous, stop

1332
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: making her ubiquitous.

1333
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. And that's one minute.

1334
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you know, you're adding like you're throwing

1335
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: a stone in the I'm saying you as in like

1336
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: someone who is saying, like why are we talking about

1337
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: this so much? But why are you talking about it?

1338
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 4: It's it's it's at all just all just it's all residue.

1339
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: You know, this is all I'll say. I think everyone's insane.

1340
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: I get why you're insane, but I but you are,

1341
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: and this.

1342
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: Insane because you should be. And like this isn't this

1343
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: isn't me a craze swifty defending it. This is me

1344
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: someone who observes what's going on and sees something really weird.

1345
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 4: Like it's all so worthy of insanity.

1346
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: Though it's worthy of insanity. But that's what I'm saying.

1347
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: It's people aren't saying because they should be. Yeah, he's

1348
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: a soul searcher. I would be very curious to see

1349
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: birthday with birthday? Now, what defines what? What is the

1350
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: soul searcher?

1351
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 4: Like like it's like I'm always like looking for the

1352
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 4: next thing. I'm always like like like what does that mean?

1353
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 4: Like you know, what does that mean to me? How

1354
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: can I better better myself? And like things like that

1355
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 4: and like we're better a situation or whatever. It is

1356
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 4: always searching.

1357
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I guess I'm a soul searcher and now I'm

1358
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: searching for and I don't think so, honey.

1359
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: From my girl, I need I needed to do pull

1360
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: up a visual aid, so therefore I need to hold

1361
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: on on my phone.

1362
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 2: I am now pulling up the incredible clock for Bowen

1363
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 2: Yang's I don't think so, honey.

1364
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: And if it is the visual aid, ready, that's it's ready.

1365
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: Your time starts now. I don't think so, honey. These

1366
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: Ai sketchers, you know ads that we've been seeing on

1367
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: the subway on the back of playbills. I had to

1368
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: play building week where this this ad of sketch. There's

1369
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: sorry with my little privacy screen on? Why is this

1370
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: woman not wearing the shoe? Why is she why does

1371
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 1: she have red and blue stripes across her face?

1372
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: What?

1373
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: Like someone had to approve this and then look the

1374
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: type treatment thirty seconds stroke on some fonts, different weights,

1375
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: different thicknesses, different sort of heights, different curnings. I don't

1376
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 1: really understand the thought around this, around putting this out

1377
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds for mass consumption. This one of this woman,

1378
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: I guess in a Japanese village with five camel tooes,

1379
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: horizontal labia on her jeans. The shoes are barely featured.

1380
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: And who is this girl? She's hunty. I just don't

1381
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: know why she's selling me shoes an ugly shoe, and

1382
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't really get like this. Can't this better be

1383
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: like such a quick little hairpin turn in the way

1384
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: that fashion gets like advertised, because we can't have looks

1385
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: like a video game.

1386
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 4: Right, it's not a shoe commercially like, it's not.

1387
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be selling me a shoe, you know what

1388
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean? This is gonna be a very visual one,

1389
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: yeah yea.

1390
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 4: On YouTube on socials where we're gonna we're.

1391
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: Gonna put little Oh yeah, that's gonna be overlays.

1392
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, like, why is this?

1393
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: Why is this?

1394
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 4: Why is mistake? It's refrontal for sketchers. Yeah, this does

1395
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 4: make sense to me. I don't get it.

1396
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: I love the product, sure, but like I don't know,

1397
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't sell it this way.

1398
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 4: This is what story are they trying to tell?

1399
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: What story they trying to Confused by the story, idam

1400
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: don't do any of that.

1401
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, not that you would. That was

1402
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 4: like a video game, Like do you remember Stargirl was

1403
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 4: star Girls and like and you just had like a

1404
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 4: bot and then she would go shopping and she would

1405
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 4: pose and like she would go to a photo shoot

1406
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 4: and you know that. That's very star Girl to me.

1407
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: What's the best fashion marketing ever in your opinion?

1408
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 4: I mean I think it was Tom for It a

1409
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 4: Gucci I think like, yeah, you, I mean, it's we

1410
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 4: can't escape it. It was incredible. Yeah, that was We're

1411
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 4: still there.

1412
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: I wish I could. I wish I was more tapped

1413
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: into it at the time. I'm learning about it in

1414
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: retrospects and I'm like, oh, that sounds like a fun.

1415
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 4: Even that whole time. It's like, no wonder I went

1416
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 4: into fashion, you know, I couldn't avoid it.

1417
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think did the Calvin client of it

1418
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: all like ping you at all?

1419
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 4: Oh? Definitely Marky Mark like made me into whitey tidies,

1420
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? He like that's like forever

1421
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 4: burned in my brain. Yeah.

1422
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, for better or worse. It is one of those

1423
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: images that will stay.

1424
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good image.

1425
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: Every time there's a new Calvin client, ad I'm always

1426
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: I always think it's a little cultural moment always.

1427
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of a an achievement level for

1428
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: hot people.

1429
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 4: Adam, it's your time. I'm so nervous right now. It's

1430
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 4: a hard thing to be direct. Don't equivalent, don't be nice,

1431
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 4: don't be kind, be kind, don't be kind nice. Yeah,

1432
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 4: however you want to interpret that?

1433
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready, Adam, something this is your I

1434
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 2: don't think so, honey. As time starts now.

1435
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey. Batties, batties are out. Shutey

1436
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 4: patuities and cuty patuities are the new future. And you

1437
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 4: know what a cutie patuity. We keep things tight, we

1438
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 4: keep things sexy. You know, it's like off the shoulder.

1439
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 4: It's a gentle fabric. Batties. We still love a battie,

1440
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 4: we still want to feel a battie. But I don't

1441
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 4: think so, honey. We have to move the needle past

1442
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 4: battie and into cutie patuity. It's all about cutie patuities.

1443
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 4: And you know what's not cutie patuity? Eating hot dogs?

1444
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: Eating?

1445
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 4: Hot dogs are out? Eating hot dogs are out, and

1446
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 4: and you know what goes along with hot dogs are lilies.

1447
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 4: Lilies are also out because they smell like boiled hot

1448
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey, and like, we're not doing that.

1449
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 4: We're not doing hot dogs, we're not doing batty, and

1450
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 4: we're not doing lily's. So don't don't bring it around.

1451
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey, Like we're going to keep

1452
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: on it cutie petuity, energy for the future. I'm so inspired.

1453
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 4: I'm so inspired. I have questions. They're not What about

1454
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 4: the smack sausages? Snaky sausages are different than hot dogs.

1455
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 4: You Like, if you go on a date with somebody

1456
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 4: to a theater and they're like, I just want to

1457
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 4: eat something, and they take a hot dog, you know,

1458
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 4: and eat it in the dark, Like that's that's not cute,

1459
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 4: you know, like everyone loves the hot dog in the dark.

1460
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 4: Why why?

1461
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: What?

1462
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 4: What is it about hot dogs that are not cute?

1463
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 4: Petuity you they're too baddy, you know what I mean.

1464
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 4: It's it's too much. It's it's too much of them. Sure,

1465
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 4: you know corn corn dogs, corn dogs. You can stay

1466
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 4: there because it's on a stick. Yeah, yeah, it's on

1467
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 4: a corn.

1468
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: Doxy Petuity very cute because I buy a weapons corn

1469
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: dog horn dogs by the box.

1470
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 4: A stick. Amaz it's on a stick. It's like you

1471
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 4: can do a gentle dip, you know what I mean.

1472
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not putting onions and relishant. You're not putting

1473
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: these things that I'll slip and fall off.

1474
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 4: That that's bad.

1475
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, that is.

1476
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 4: I'm starting to see. I do love a hot dog

1477
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 4: me to a lot. Well, you know, the New Years

1478
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 4: around the corner. So get out of your system because

1479
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 4: chety Petuty is coming in hot Yeah. Yeah.

1480
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: This released me because I've always identified as I can't

1481
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: I can't identify, I can't self label my The way

1482
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: that the way I've gotten through life as a gay

1483
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: man is being cute. Patwoed, I'm never gonna be baddie.

1484
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna be like hot hot. But my stylist

1485
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: Michael Fisher goes, funny boy is a funny boy bow

1486
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: and is out where we're doing sexy bow and I'm like, sure,

1487
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 1: but yeah, but Cutie Petuty is sexy sexy.

1488
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's still very sexy, but it's a softer sexy. Yeah,

1489
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's just it's just a

1490
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 4: little gentler than like, damn, I'm sexy and I'm you

1491
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like it's it's a sure, it's

1492
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 4: a hey, look over here, it's it's it's over the shoulder,

1493
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 4: it's the owl of it all. You know, your good

1494
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 4: friend is is the ultimate baddy back gally, you know

1495
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 4: what the says this is but she's also very cute.

1496
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: This is any strig.

1497
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: So basically what he's saying is that in R nine,

1498
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: what we can expect is more Cutie patuity because because

1499
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: bad gallery Y has always been through anti I mean,

1500
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 2: like that was bad gal and so basically, like what

1501
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 2: he's saying without saying it is he's giving us a clue.

1502
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 4: She's never going to talk to me. We can we

1503
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 4: can expect it. Adam, what do you identify as Batti

1504
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 4: or Cutie Patuity. I'm Cutie Patuity. I'm also I'm more

1505
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 4: of like I'm a gun girl actually with a horse

1506
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: girl rising, you know, but but that's not in right now.

1507
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: I'm talking in is Cutie Patty, And I don't know

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Speaker 4: if I'm cute.

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Speaker 1: Guns and horses can be kuty but twity yeah.

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Speaker 4: QP gun is qu shoot gun.

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Speaker 2: We're about to shoot gun going to a bachelor and

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Speaker 2: I was tasked with locking down the the gun range.

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Speaker 4: That's so fun.

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Speaker 1: So we're doing it in New Orleans and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go shoot guns the first time.

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Speaker 4: That's so fun. You're gonna have a blast. It really

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Speaker 4: is a great time. What was a lot to be showing?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say maybe seven years ago. Wow, yeah, and

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Speaker 4: well you're due. Yeah a seven years and my brother

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Speaker 4: in law like set set up cook cans in my

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Speaker 4: parents like field, and we did it.

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Speaker 1: You ever go skeet shooting?

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Speaker 4: Never been skeet shooting.

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Speaker 1: I will say hot dog moment that stands out to

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Speaker 1: me as Katie Petutty. As Ala Ban's liquorice video, she

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Speaker 1: at the end it's a hot dog in the most

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Speaker 1: cutie petuity way. And I'm wa say she is obviously

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Speaker 1: batt she is obviously battie, she's baddy, but I think

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Speaker 1: she can hot dog gonna be a kute butty a way.

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Speaker 4: So I present that as like a counter cutie petutitia rising.

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Speaker 2: If you're genuinely authentically cuty petuity, anything you do is

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Speaker 2: going to be cutey petwity.

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Speaker 4: That's true's true. And if you embody in, you harness

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Speaker 4: that cutie patuty energy.

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Speaker 1: Whereas if you're just such a baddie, you've given me

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Speaker 1: a lot to think about.

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Speaker 4: I want this to before you fall asleep tonight. I

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Speaker 4: want you to be thinking cutie petuity like as you fall.

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Speaker 1: Asleep, I will I'm thinking about I'm saying I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be thinking about this for at least a year.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean that, But then then we'll be on

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Speaker 4: to something else. Boen. You know, we gotta seize this

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Speaker 4: cutie patuity moment.

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Speaker 1: Or I will continue to hold down the cutie pe

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Speaker 1: tuity you know, m O until I die. You kind

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01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: of always you're like, You're like, what it's all I got?

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01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: It's all it's all, it's that's my only sort of

1548
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: it's the only color I paint with and that's okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is my time. And then skinny jeans back in,

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Speaker 1: not leggings, not leggings. No no, no, no, no great,

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Speaker 1: no no, it's just I feel like like the wide

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Speaker 1: pleat is no more?

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Speaker 4: Got it?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah? Interesting, and you.

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01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 2: Feel like this is something that other stylists and people

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Speaker 2: have are talking about, like like it's it's it's a buzz.

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a buzz. I mean it's also

1559
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 4: just like everything has just been so we're so excessive, right,

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Speaker 4: and it's just a full vomit. So I think it's

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Speaker 4: it's sort of time to like clean it up.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I do see it like like a pant that's

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: really big, and I'm like, what are we doing here?

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01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, if you, if you, if you

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: take yourself out of it, like you'd never wear that

1566
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: unless they if they weren't telling you that this is

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Speaker 2: what fashion is.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, all right, all right, we're back.

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Speaker 4: We're back. And all I think, do you shop it early?

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Speaker 4: Did you?

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Speaker 1: I think there's some good jacket, there's good pieces in

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Speaker 1: the an sell Me uniform.

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Speaker 4: From Okay, I will check it out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, like wife, like their new, their new.

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Speaker 4: I'm really into forty five. I mean the president, the president.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you said you're a gun shooting.

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Speaker 6: Exactly, and Trump and Trump and competitor cheerleader. Yeah, beautiful diagram,

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Speaker 6: what a guy. People contain Multitude's bow.

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Speaker 4: More than I hope everyone will tune in, and I

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Speaker 4: cannot thank you enough.

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Speaker 1: We are so excited.

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Speaker 2: The show is tonight seven pm on Amazon Prime, and

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01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: I guess because it's on there, you can stream it

1584
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 2: in perpetuity, keep it going, keep it going.

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Speaker 1: Powerful fingers crossed. All right, So this is so fun.

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Speaker 1: You're the best.

1587
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 4: We're so happy to have you so much.

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01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: This has been so fun. We end every episode with

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Speaker 1: a song.

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01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 4: What's what's my name? What's my name? Paby don't want.

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Speaker 2: To see you can go down again like behavor.

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Speaker 4: I want to because you're just not type or not.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: People contain multitudes Bye Last Culture. Reacis is the production

1595
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 4: by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio podcasts.

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01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: Created and hosted by Matt Rodgers and Bowen Yeg, executive

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01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 2: produced by Ana Hasbier, and produced by Decoramo. Edited a

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Speaker 2: mixed by Doug Bain and our music is by Henry Komerski.