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Speaker 1: Jennifer Fisher, also known as the Queen of Hoops, is

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Speaker 1: a jewelry designer with devoted fans from coast to coast,

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Speaker 1: including j Lo, Rihanna, and Michelle Obama. She has been

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Speaker 1: celebrating some big milestones, the twentieth anniversary of her brand,

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Speaker 1: two new store locations, and a really interesting cookbook, Trust

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Speaker 1: Your Gut, that grew out of her popular wellness focused

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Speaker 1: recipes and chips. She joins me here in our beautiful,

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Speaker 1: tiny little shoe box of a studio at Rockefeller Center

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Speaker 1: to discuss all of that and more. Welcome to my podcast, Jennifer.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Nice to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer is looking fabulous. She has on the highest black

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Speaker 1: platform boots you have ever seen. They must be around

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Speaker 1: oh six inches, and she has on baggie or I

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Speaker 1: should say, capacious white leather trousers with a snake skin belt,

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Speaker 1: one of her commando body suits, which really looks so good.

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Speaker 1: I've worn those body suits, not yours originally, but I've

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Speaker 1: worn them ever since I went to like got out

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Speaker 1: of college. I love those. They're so beautiful in a body,

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Speaker 1: They're so comfortable, Soviet and then she has diamonds all

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Speaker 1: over her fingers and her wrists and watches and gold.

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Speaker 1: H let me see your earrings. Gold, all floating dive

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Speaker 1: diamond all floating diamonds, all floating diamonds. But you've just

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Speaker 1: come back from a very exciting trip. You were opening

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Speaker 1: your newest store in Beverly Hills. Where we're in Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 3: We are at three six three North Beverly Drive.

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Speaker 2: We're only a block and a half over from where

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Speaker 2: we were originally from my first store, which she opened

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Speaker 2: and built during COVID, which we'll get back to because

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Speaker 2: that was sort of the inspiration for my book, was

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Speaker 2: a book that I read during COVID while I was

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Speaker 2: building the store.

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Speaker 1: And last fall you opened your Medicine Avenue flagship store. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so beautiful and very big.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Really is the Beverly Hills as big as that it.

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Speaker 3: Is, It's a different footprint.

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Speaker 2: The Beverly Hills store is a little bit longer, whereas

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Speaker 2: the Madison store is wor square, it's a little bit wider.

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Speaker 1: So who's your consumer and how do these locations reflect

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Speaker 1: the growth of your business.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. So my consumer really is it's

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Speaker 2: anyone from a girl that can wear jewelry to taste

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Speaker 2: my salts, or you know, have anyone. So really, with

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Speaker 2: my salts and the jewelry combined, I'm able to capture

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Speaker 2: customers at a much younger age. I've got mothers that

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Speaker 2: are feeding their children my salts on their roasted vegetables

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Speaker 2: in order to get them eat their vegetables, and then

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Speaker 2: they grow into wanting a piece of jewelry or a

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Speaker 2: pair of hoops. So really, it's the salt that I

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Speaker 2: launched in twenty seventeen really was not what I was

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Speaker 2: looking for originally.

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Speaker 1: My trainers this morning said to me, he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: very few people actually do food and then get their

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Speaker 1: hair done by Chris Appleton, which we happened yesterday, and

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Speaker 1: know about gardening and know about clothes, and you are

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Speaker 1: one of those few people.

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Speaker 2: So to you, it's a multi hyphen it, Martha, where

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Speaker 2: you know you're the original.

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Speaker 1: Well, anyway, it's very interesting to meet another multi hyphen

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Speaker 1: than a guru of food, fashion, and jewels and salt.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear all about your salts and how

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Speaker 1: those developed. So let's start with jewelry, because that's really

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Speaker 1: where you got your start, So how did that happen?

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Speaker 2: So I was a style so first of all, I

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Speaker 2: grew up in Santa Barbara, California, in Monacito. My father

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Speaker 2: was a big gardener. We grew up eating vegetables. My

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Speaker 2: It's beautiful. We're lucky to grow up there.

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Speaker 3: I was very little of the house there.

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Speaker 2: No, my mom was in Santaanez now because my father

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Speaker 2: has passed. But my grandfather was a polo player and

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Speaker 2: he is the one that put the roots up in Monacito,

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Speaker 3: And I was always into fashion.

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Speaker 2: I ended up studying business marketing at Martiall School of

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Speaker 3: I became a wardrobe styles because I loved fashion so much.

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Speaker 2: how I became a stylist. So while I was a stylist,

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Speaker 2: I got diagnosed with something called a Desmoi tumor, which

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Speaker 2: is a soft tissue sarcoma when I was thirty years old.

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Speaker 2: Where is that in your brain?

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Speaker 3: No, it's on my left chest wall.

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Speaker 2: When I first found it, the doctors thought that it

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Speaker 3: This is all going on.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you found the right person.

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Speaker 2: I found the right doctor, and I went through chemotherapy

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Speaker 2: And then when we wanted to have a child, my

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Speaker 3: You need to get a surrogate.

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Speaker 2: And it was illegal at the time in the state

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Speaker 2: for you, so we couldn't do it here, but as

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Speaker 3: To do it there.

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Speaker 2: Went through years of surrogacy, failed two times, twelve weeks, miscarried,

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Speaker 2: The doctors are like, you need to get a surrogate

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Speaker 3: I don't care what you say, so digital down.

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I actually they treated it as a high

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Speaker 3: And my son, Shane was born.

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Speaker 2: So when Shane was born, people were giving me jewelry

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Speaker 2: to represent him, and I was like, this is not

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to wear this.

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Speaker 2: And being a resourceful stylist, I would go up to

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Speaker 2: to make this simple dog tag for me. This says Shane,

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Speaker 2: and I want to wear it in a heavy gold

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Speaker 2: and I was like, well that's crazy. I really want

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Speaker 2: And I was a stylist and I wore this dog

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Speaker 2: of the gaffers everybody wanted. Everybody wanted one, and that's

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Speaker 1: Oh great, So and now you have how many children?

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Speaker 3: I've got two? Yeah, both with naturally.

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Speaker 2: So Shane is now a junior at the University of

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I'm now a free bird is what.

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Speaker 2: They call it.

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Speaker 1: So the dog tag was first, then what yeah?

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Speaker 2: So the dog tag started it all and I started

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Speaker 2: that's really not magazine cover jewelry. We need to do

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Speaker 2: some statement things, sort of like the choker you have

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Speaker 1: A very beautiful mercatly what is it called.

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Speaker 2: Called the Murphy named after my friend Pam.

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Speaker 1: Okay Murphy's necklace.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and ring and the ring.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the ring is so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: It looks great.

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Speaker 2: I like the rings. It looks amazing. I like it

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Speaker 2: I always like my rings heavy. So I started making

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Speaker 2: I started getting the magazine covers and when things started

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Speaker 1: If this ring were a solid gold, it would cost

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Speaker 2: That was the ring would be, you know, tens of

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Speaker 2: goal markets at forty six hundred to day. Oh, I know,

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Speaker 2: isn't it amazing. It's not good for you, it's not

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Speaker 2: good for me. I just had a very stressful call

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Speaker 2: before this talking about Marjorie six hundred dollars and six

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Speaker 1: So all of you out there with those gold coins

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Speaker 3: Hold onto them, do not sell them.

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Speaker 1: I mean when I started, my friends who are gathering

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Speaker 2: High Well, I know, the right guy. You got to

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Speaker 3: You have to be very careful when you sell your gold.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if I have anything to sell gold.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you do.

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Speaker 2: You probably don't even realize I have all those hold

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Speaker 3: Don't sell it, sell it.

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Speaker 2: Do not sell your gold.

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Speaker 1: I don't sell anything.

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Speaker 3: Is so terrible.

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Speaker 2: When I started the business, it was like, okay, it

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Speaker 3: You know, So there's mills.

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Speaker 1: Say she is a real jeweler. She knows how much

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Speaker 1: her gold that she plates her breass costs an ounce.

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Speaker 2: Like she's she's the most friendly, like lovely human, amazing.

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Speaker 2: whenever she needs O hoops, she gets hoops.

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Speaker 1: So did you have a moment in your business in

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Speaker 2: have gorgeous jewelry that's you know, either sponsored or given

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Speaker 3: So it's those that are.

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Speaker 1: Favorite peace is that's why they're wearing it.

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Speaker 2: It makes me really happy, you know, and I see

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Speaker 2: I see women that are wearing my charm knucklaces that

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Speaker 3: Just it's such an amazing, incredible feeling.

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Speaker 1: You're twenty years into your business. What are your challenges today?

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Speaker 3: Scaling?

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Speaker 2: You know, people are making jewelry that looks similar to

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Speaker 3: That's another thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, you certainly are very clear about your business talent.

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Speaker 1: You speak the business do I mean you understand it?

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Speaker 1: I mean how are teriffs? Are terrors being collected?

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Speaker 2: Yes, terrors are being collected, so it's interesting are they

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Speaker 1: I mean at what rate?

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Speaker 2: So it depends on what country you're in, So we're

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Speaker 2: there's ways to work around it where you're taking your

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Speaker 1: And that's what most brands do. So you start in India,

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Speaker 1: are there terroiffs on that started stuff fifty America? And

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Speaker 1: The huge teriffs on Indian goods really really hurt our

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very challenging and damaging to relationships that we've had

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Speaker 2: And so much so with my business. We're now looking

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Speaker 2: So that was a good call that I had to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be that would be very good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're also such nice people.

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Speaker 2: And the people that are in this jewelry district too,

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Speaker 2: What's your best selling product? Well, it's between I mean,

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Speaker 2: We're fixing that packaging so enough to dump it out

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Speaker 1: And there's universal salt. Now what is universal salt?

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Speaker 2: So Universal salt was the first salt that I developed,

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Speaker 2: because I was like a like a little bit of lemon.

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Speaker 2: So this was my first one. This one has no

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Speaker 1: I don't mind seeds. I don't like nuts.

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Speaker 2: You don't know really like cashews and almonds?

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Speaker 1: I like them, but I don't eat a lot.

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Speaker 3: I'm allergic to walnuts, so I don't eat a ton

447
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Speaker 3: of nuts.

448
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Speaker 1: I don't eat a lot of them.

449
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Speaker 2: I don't eat a ton of them. But I like seeds.

450
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Speaker 1: I can taste the garlic right away.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like garlic. I'm a big garlic I like garlics.

452
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Speaker 2: I like onion too. I do too. I love onions,

453
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Speaker 2: but I don't eat it raw.

454
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Speaker 3: You don't ever?

455
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Speaker 2: Not usually? No, like me too.

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Speaker 3: I like other onion.

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Speaker 1: So everything is spicy, salt, very tasty, thank you, very

458
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Speaker 1: very tasty. How much it's in a little bottle?

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Speaker 2: Here? What are those? Now? That's new package and half bounces? Yeah?

460
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Speaker 2: So those and that that's beauty packaging. Do you like

461
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,080
Speaker 2: the packaging? Yeah? And so that one has Gojigarow chili

462
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Speaker 2: flakes in it. That's the spicy that's our best selling one.

463
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Speaker 2: That's our most popular one. That's how we get your

464
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Speaker 2: kids to eat the vegetables. Isn't it good spicy salt?

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Speaker 2: But it's not it's not hot spicy, right, it's a

466
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Speaker 2: little bit more of a new mommy like nice chili

467
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Speaker 2: kick to it. You like that one, The curry one,

468
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Speaker 2: I think you might like. I think you'll like the

469
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Speaker 2: curry one. This one on your fresh tomatoes or avocados

470
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Speaker 2: is really really amazing. This one is is the sleeper hit,

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Speaker 2: I would say, is the curry if you can. It's

472
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Speaker 2: the aromatics of it is incredible as there really and

473
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Speaker 2: she's eating them as we go. But these on your

474
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Speaker 2: summer tomatoes on your farm is what it's for.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is pretty too, isn't it pretty?

476
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Speaker 2: And the smellet color color is so good?

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Speaker 3: Is that one good?

478
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Speaker 2: That one's really good on pasta rice. It's it's delicious

479
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Speaker 2: on eggs. That's the sleeper hit. That one. Back to

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Speaker 2: your point, so about ten percent of people that buy

481
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Speaker 2: salt go on to buy jewelry, so it's a great

482
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Speaker 2: low barrier to entry. Funny, isn't that interesting?

483
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Speaker 1: Well, because they're in the store.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, because they want some people can't necessarily spend

485
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Speaker 2: the money on the jewelry, and they want a piece

486
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,959
Speaker 2: of the brand, so they do this first, and then

487
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Speaker 2: they grow into buying the jewelry once they sort of

488
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Speaker 2: know more about the brand and get more you know,

489
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Speaker 2: invested in a n It is a nice entry and

490
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Speaker 2: this was just a total natural thing for me, having

491
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Speaker 2: hashimotos and my undercnologists telling me to eat more breakfast

492
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Speaker 2: and I use my washine photos. I have an autoimmune disease, correct, correct,

493
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Speaker 2: So my thyroid is very slow. So what's interesting is

494
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Speaker 2: that I never knew that I had it. I had,

495
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Speaker 2: you know, struggled most of my life with brain foss.

496
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Speaker 1: The most energetic woman you have ever seen, with no

497
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Speaker 1: energy problems whatsoever, because I eat this way now that's right,

498
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Speaker 1: you eat the correct way.

499
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Speaker 2: I've always had this much energy, which is why I

500
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Speaker 2: went I'm diagnosed. For so long, no one could figure

501
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Speaker 2: out what was wrong with me because I didn't have

502
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Speaker 2: a lot of symptoms. Having hashmotives a lot of times

503
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Speaker 2: there's weight gain, so having that, I didn't have a

504
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Speaker 2: lot of those exterior things that people so we didn't

505
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Speaker 2: know what it was because I really was never I

506
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 2: never really had a weight problem. I just never felt good.

507
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Speaker 2: I felt like I had brain fog all the time.

508
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Speaker 2: But little did I know that I was not eating

509
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Speaker 2: correctly for having hashimotos. Having hashimotos, I found a wonderful

510
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Speaker 2: endercanologist here in New York City, a female who finally

511
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Speaker 2: got me off of gluten, who said, if you have hashimotos,

512
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Speaker 2: you should not be eating gluten. And that was sort

513
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Speaker 2: of my first step into eating this way. I was

514
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Speaker 2: eat eating gluten free products. But I want to share

515
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Speaker 2: her name, doctor Caroline Sierra. She's amazing. She's not practicing

516
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Speaker 2: much anymore. She lives in Florida a lot now, but

517
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Speaker 2: she's an incredible woman and I'm so grateful to her

518
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Speaker 2: for all of her help.

519
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Speaker 1: Here you met Rika Kumar. No, oh, she's a young

520
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Speaker 1: indocrinologist who you would love to meet.

521
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Speaker 2: Well, you know how I see now as doctor Amanda Khan.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

523
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Speaker 2: Good, she is now acting in Wonderful. She's wonderful. She's

524
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Speaker 2: now acting as my undercanologist. They're very similar my longevity doctor.

525
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's great.

526
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Speaker 3: She's wonderful.

527
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Speaker 1: And doctor Amanda Khan has been our podcast. As you

528
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Speaker 1: all know, and she is amazing.

529
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Speaker 2: Take her peptides. Yep, those have also changed my life.

530
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Speaker 2: It's also helped them my hair grow. I mean peptides.

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Speaker 2: I can tell. I could talk forever about it how

532
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Speaker 2: I feel. And that has very long, beautiful hair. Half

533
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Speaker 2: of its fake, Martha.

534
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Speaker 1: It is an extensions. You have extensions.

535
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Speaker 2: I have clippins. Oh yes, so after I went through chemo,

536
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Speaker 2: my hair didn't come back all the way. So my

537
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Speaker 2: hair is actually quite long, but it just gives it

538
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Speaker 2: a little bit more volume, like you know, just throwing

539
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Speaker 2: on a little wig or a hair piece. But I

540
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Speaker 2: take them in and out every night. I don't sleep

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Speaker 2: with them, and I treat them like regular hair. The

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Speaker 2: hair shop on twenty seventh Street.

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Speaker 1: I never, I never, I never wore hair pieces or

544
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Speaker 1: clip ins until I met Chris Appleton.

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Speaker 2: Well he's done it a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Well that it gives such a video you showed me.

547
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Speaker 2: It looks amazing. Yeah, he's amazing. I could also take

548
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Speaker 2: you to the hair shop and show you how to

549
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Speaker 2: do it, because I just do these on my own.

550
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Speaker 2: I learned how to do it, so now I just

551
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Speaker 2: do it when I feel like wearing them.

552
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Speaker 1: Whatever there is so much to do and so many

553
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Speaker 1: things that you can do it with right, right, but.

554
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Speaker 2: We have this energy by eating anti inflammatory, we can

555
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Speaker 2: do it all.

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Speaker 1: So you are twenty years into your business. You have

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Speaker 1: a luxury jewelry business. You started posting about the food,

558
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Speaker 1: so now you're making the salt and you're writing a

559
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Speaker 1: really beautiful cookbook.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you for the quote.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're very well.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you very well.

563
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Speaker 1: Thank you read it.

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Speaker 2: Read what I wrote. Jennifer Fisher gets what a modern

565
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Speaker 2: lifestyle is all about. I love it. I have to

566
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Speaker 2: take my glasses off. Each of us need sensible and

567
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Speaker 2: informal nutrition. Nutrition, and Jennifer has done her homework. So

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Speaker 2: what's interesting is my next copy it won't be like

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Speaker 2: this on the cover, which I actually love it on

570
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Speaker 2: the cover, but it's going to be on the back

571
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Speaker 2: a longer format because we had to cut it short

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Speaker 2: to put it on the cover.

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Speaker 1: But the cover is of a beautiful piece of her

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Speaker 1: seed bread with a slice of very beautiful multi colored tomato.

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Speaker 1: And are those onions?

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Speaker 2: Those are red onions, but they're not pickled. But I

577
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Speaker 2: do love a pickled onion. I love a pickled onion.

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Speaker 2: I just do lime juice in my salt. What do

579
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Speaker 2: you do?

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Speaker 3: Do you boil them or do you just know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You no, No, I don't boil them. I just soak

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Speaker 1: it in red wine, vinegar exactly and water and they

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Speaker 1: pickle in a day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and little sprout so alf Alpha sprouts is a

586
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Speaker 2: big thing for me. Growing up in Santa Barbara, California,

587
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Speaker 2: we were very into strouts. And I do love I

588
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Speaker 2: do love cheddar cheese. There's an avocado mash under there

589
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Speaker 2: that's season with my spicy salt, and I do love.

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Speaker 2: I put a little bit of mustard vinaigrette on top

591
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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 3: That's my favorite kind of me too.

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Speaker 2: Favorite.

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Speaker 3: This is my favorite way to eat.

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Speaker 2: And I do like a pepper jack cheese, but I

596
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Speaker 2: haven't found anyone that makes a good dairy free pepper

597
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Speaker 2: jack cheese. I'd like to make one.

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Speaker 1: I just had a very good little on cheese sandwich

599
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Speaker 1: this afternoon. It's a piece of seed bread, just like

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Speaker 1: a triangle, slathered with almond butter almond, then topped with honey.

601
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Speaker 1: Hot honey are regular regular honey, and chopped almonds.

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Speaker 2: The salta seeds nice.

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Speaker 1: All kinds of seeds were on top. It was delicious.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing like a so much better than peanut butter.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and your kids would love it. It's just amazing.

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Speaker 1: So so now I'm going to try to try that one.

607
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Speaker 1: But I'm definitely try hot honey in myself.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like hot honey too. I love hot honey.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a real spicy person, no, but but I

610
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Speaker 1: do like a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I love chili flakes.

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Speaker 3: I do too, Yes, I love, I love.

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Speaker 2: I love a little fress note chili on top of

614
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Speaker 2: things too, so you get like a tiny kick in

615
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Speaker 2: things too.

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Speaker 1: So what are the core principles in your cookbook?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so all of this sort of can.

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Speaker 1: Trust your gut published by Abrams.

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Speaker 2: Abrams Games published by Abrams. My husband used to be

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Speaker 2: the president of Abrams.

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Speaker 3: That's a fact that I did not know, Martha. I'm

622
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Speaker 3: going to start talking about.

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Speaker 1: The heyday of Abrams. He ran that whole publishing company.

624
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Speaker 1: It was mostly doing art books at the time, and

625
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Speaker 1: he did publish Gnomes, which was their one of their

626
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Speaker 1: biggest best sellers ever in history.

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting.

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Speaker 1: I did not know that time ago.

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Speaker 2: Well, ex husband, I know, but they gave me some

630
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Speaker 2: they're a very great creative house, so that they gave

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Speaker 2: me creative freedom on this, which is really excited. And

632
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Speaker 2: I wrote it myself too, which was not easy.

633
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Speaker 1: No, it's not easy.

634
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Speaker 3: It's really challenging.

635
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Speaker 1: But it may it reads better.

636
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Speaker 3: I think it does too. I think it does too.

637
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Speaker 2: When I did the pitch for the book, I hired

638
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Speaker 2: someone to do it and I hated it and it

639
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: didn't feel like me. And so this is actually the

640
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Speaker 2: first publisher that I spoke to as well too. Yeah,

641
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Speaker 2: it's funny. I got I'm with Hally, my publisher, and

642
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Speaker 2: she had on my hopes and she goes, I know

643
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Speaker 2: exactly how to do this book, and I said, okay,

644
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: you're hired. So eating anti inflammatory, there's there's lots of

645
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Speaker 2: things that we're eating day to day.

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Speaker 3: It's really more about simplifying.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of going back And I actually wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk to you about this because I think this is

649
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Speaker 2: really important. It's sort of going back to you and

650
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Speaker 2: the way that you cook and entertain. Like your first book, Entertaining,

651
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: the recipes and that are very similar to this. They're

652
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Speaker 2: so simple. It's it's just taking out a lot of

653
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Speaker 2: the garbage that people have put into recipes over the years.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like taking out that post war era of

655
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Speaker 2: processed foods and going back to everything that's so simple.

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Speaker 1: At works been no cans in my house. Only the

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Speaker 1: only cans I open are sardine cans, which because I

658
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: love sardines.

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Speaker 2: I like swardines too. How do you eat them?

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Speaker 1: Just on a piece of green bread with a squeeze

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Speaker 1: of lemon.

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Speaker 2: I like the squeeze of lemon, eat them my One

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Speaker 2: of my best friends is Persian, and she taught me

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Speaker 2: this way of just doing it with like this extra

665
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: lemon and some spices, and I'll take, I'll take, I take.

666
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: I keep tins of sardines in my office. They're so good,

667
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,719
Speaker 2: They're so good for your skin, so good for everything.

668
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: I eat a lot of tuna, to which I shouldn't,

669
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: but I do. I make a good tuna fish that

670
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: has no mayonnaise, And because I don't eat mayonnaise, that's

671
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: one thing that I don't. Maybe maybe one day we

672
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: should make a naoili together, because maybe you can.

673
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: Convince me to make I make what are you put

674
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: in your tuna fish salad?

675
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: I do my mustard vinaigrette. I do, which was as

676
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: uh has olive oil, red wine, vinegar, garlic, my salt,

677
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: Dijon mustard like not. But then I use for my

678
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: tuna when I mash it, I use a spicy brown

679
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 2: mustard and then I put in the mustard vinegrette season

680
00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: that base ferston.

681
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: I really really flake it.

682
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: Spicy brown mustard is so much like mayonnaise, but it's not.

683
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: There's something about mayonnaise. You know why I don't eat mayonnaise.

684
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. My father, with his beautiful beef

685
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: steak tomatoes that he would grow in the garden, would

686
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: come into the kitchen and he had the strangest way.

687
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: He would make a peanut butter and mayonnaise sandwich with tomato,

688
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: and I thought it was so disgusting.

689
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that is. But what I like is

690
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: just a big piece of brioche, like from Republique out

691
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: in La But I make it now. I make my

692
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: own brioche slathered with mayonnaise and the biggest tomato slice

693
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: about an inch thick, and salt.

694
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 2: Your salt would be perfect.

695
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: Perfect.

696
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm mad on it, and that's it.

697
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: Can we figure out how to do an aoli that

698
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 2: I can or something that I can actually like stomach

699
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: because my father, who you really like, I have PTSD

700
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: from a kid like I can't. I cannot go near

701
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: mayonnaise because of that.

702
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: So veganais.

703
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: There's something about the white like I think I need

704
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 2: to make it in a way where it feels different,

705
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: where it feels almost like a mustard.

706
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: My daughter uses veganais.

707
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: Loves that, right, because she's a vegetarian, isn't she.

708
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, she likes she likes that a lot. She eats

709
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: eggs though, no, she's she's not such a she's not

710
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: a vegan. Okay, not a vegan. She eats she eats eggs,

711
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: and she eats fish, no meat, and.

712
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: She would like this.

713
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

714
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: I should get her one. I should gt her my

715
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: salts too. But so the pillars to the book, back

716
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: to we keep going off. Sorry, that's my fault. So

717
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: it's no gluten, no dairy, no seed oils. I do

718
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: drink alcohol. I love alcohol. I just that's one thing

719
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: for me. Like when I so when I went when

720
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: I was building my first storm Beverly Hills, and I

721
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: flew out there during COVID and you had to coat,

722
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: you had to quarantine for ten days. I was lucky

723
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: enough to quarantine at the Bellero Hotel and I bought

724
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of books, and the one book that I

725
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: read was will cole Keedoterian, and he's big on anti

726
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: inflammatory living. You know, he and some of his stuff

727
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: felt too restrictive for me. But I was like, listen,

728
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: if I could take a few of these pillars of

729
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: your book and take them into my life. Like so

730
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: for me, charcuterie is like I love a cheese plate.

731
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: I love really good cheese, I love olives. I love

732
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: all I do, but I don't I live by the

733
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: eighty twenty worl eighty percent of the time. I eat

734
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: like this twenty percent of time. If I want to

735
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: eat that piece of bree, I eat the piece of bree.

736
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: If I want that French better, I eat that French better.

737
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: If I want to have a burger and fries, I

738
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: have a burger and fries.

739
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: What's your eighty twenty rule?

740
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: My eighty twenty roll. So I was just in Los Angeles.

741
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: I just got back from opening my store, and I

742
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: went out with my friends and I had burger and

743
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: fries at beller Rotel. Two nights in a row because

744
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: I felt like it and I didn't feel great, but

745
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: I had a good time. And you have to live

746
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: your life or else this is not going to work.

747
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: You have to be able to take days off. You

748
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: have to be able to do what you want to do.

749
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: But you know, I've also convinced my friends to eat

750
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: this way. You know, when we go out for cocktails

751
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: and they want to order fries, I've taught them how

752
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: to order a hand salad. Like you know, we go

753
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: to Odeon and Tribucca and they have a great hand salad,

754
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: and by the end of you know, drinks, my friends

755
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 2: are reaching for the hand salad and wanting another one

756
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: instead of one in the fries.

757
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: But Jennifer, what do you call a hand salad?

758
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: So, a hand salad is a perfectly simply dressed salad

759
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: with olive oil and lemon and whatever sort of a

760
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: vinegrette you can get at whatever restaurant you're at with

761
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: your friends. We make sure that it's seed oil free,

762
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: of course, and I always bring a little bit of

763
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: salt in my purse as well to dress that and

764
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: we eat it with our hands. So my friends like

765
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: romaine letters or it, does it anything? I just greens,

766
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: whatever greens they'll make for us, even you know, anything romaine, anything,

767
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: doesn't matter, mixed greens and then you pick it up

768
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: with your hands and you eat it just like a

769
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: French fry, but it's a salad.

770
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: My daughter eats everything with their hands. It was annoying

771
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: at first, but now I understand why it is so nice.

772
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: It is something, but it's when you're out, you know,

773
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: and taking that instead of instead of for the salty

774
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: you know, processed terrible nuts or you know, popcorn that's

775
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: done with whatever package, powdered garls.

776
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 3: Just just trying to make those subs live your life.

777
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: So what are the pillars again? No, no gluten, no dare,

778
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: no gluten, No seed oils?

779
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: Okay, no, Like what's the seed oil?

780
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: So safflower, sunflower, canola. So this is the thing.

781
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: This is not even in my kitchen, I know.

782
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: But this is the problem with the United States is

783
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: most people, it's in most products. Really for me, it's

784
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: teaching people to read your labels, Like when you're at

785
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: the grocery store, when people are shopping and they're buying

786
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: their products that are packaged, which is not some that

787
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: you do, but a lot of people do. They're just

788
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: grabbing off the shelf and they're looking at the marketing

789
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: and it says gluten free, grain free, dairy free, low fat,

790
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: whatever it is, and then you turn it over and

791
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of ingredients you can't pronounce. Gums, shelf

792
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: stabilizers are a huge problem in the United States. That's

793
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: in most of your foods, as well as cane sugar

794
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: and seed oils. So it's really about teaching people to

795
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: like clean out their house, clean out their fridge, turn

796
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: around your favorite hot sauce and see what's inside of it,

797
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: because guaranteed there's probably cane sugar or a gum in it.

798
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: I know. I want you to text me later. I

799
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: want if you have anything at your house it's packaged,

800
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: I want you to read it and see and then

801
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: tell me later if it has anything in it. But

802
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: it's really teaching just people to simplify things, like sort

803
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: of the way that you cook. It's whole ingredients. It's

804
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 2: simple things.

805
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: I raised my own eggs and I raise all my patables.

806
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: Thanks pat your eggs are so good.

807
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: So okay, so next, anymore killers.

808
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: It's not it's really not. It's avoiding the sugars, it's

809
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: avoiding the fillers. It's just taking simple recipes. My stuff

810
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: is not hard. These are things that you would do

811
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: with you know, both your eyes closed. But it's for

812
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know how to do it.

813
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: So just trying to teach people how to live a

814
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: simpler life by shopping for smarter goods, you know, bringing

815
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: things into your house that are better for you. So

816
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: if you go out for cocktails and you want to

817
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 2: make nachos when you get home at night, that you

818
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: have the right ingredients. I've got the grain free chips,

819
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: I've got the right hot sauce. I do use dairy

820
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: free cheese, but I've lowered the amount of cheese that

821
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: I that I eat because I don't love the taste

822
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: of dairy free cheese. Feta is the best one. There's

823
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: a feata that's out there that's actually palatable, that's pretty good.

824
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: And potato starch, that's the problem. It's a lot of

825
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: it as potato starch. A lot of vegan cheeses are.

826
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: There's different things, nuts, cashews.

827
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: I'd rather eat potatoes.

828
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: I love potatoes. I ate a lot of sweet potatoes.

829
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: I love sweet potato. I love soup, potatoes, Japanese sweet potatoes,

830
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: all of that.

831
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: I love vegetables, I pretty much.

832
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: I try to stay to like low glycemic fruits, so

833
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: berry so sort of strawberries, raspberries, blackberries, things like that,

834
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: just for my hashimotos and my le sugar. I don't

835
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: eat a lot of currants, but I do like currant jam.

836
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Currant I make black currant jam without the sea.

837
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: Can I come next time you make jam?

838
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: And once you do it?

839
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be good.

840
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: I would love to come and watch.

841
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: I want to do a whole tutorial on shems because

842
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: I raise all these fabulous berries and my strawberry jam

843
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: is the best strawberry jam you've ever tasted.

844
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 2: Can we do one with coconut sugar? Can we try

845
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: one coconut sugar? Can we try? I think it would

846
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: be a cool exper Coconut sugar is processed, yeah, but

847
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: it's just it's for me. It spikes me a little

848
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: bit less than cane sugar. We could try it.

849
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: We could try a honey, Yeah, maybe a honey.

850
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: Maybe. Do you have your own bees? Oh? I did?

851
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, but my neighbor has his bees and

852
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: he gives me giant ballons of honey.

853
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 4: You're so lucky.

854
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,239
Speaker 1: So you're not a nutritionist now, and you're not a

855
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: medical expert, but you have gained a tremendous amount of

856
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: unnutritional knowledge and trust because of that. Well, and I

857
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: see you're a students.

858
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: You're I'm my own student.

859
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: I had to teach myself how to do this because

860
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: doctors in the United States have like five minutes of

861
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: nutritional training. So, you know, every doctor was trying to

862
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: put me on a kill.

863
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: I can't understand that. It's insane. I was so happy.

864
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, my cardiologist, who was just

865
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: one of you know, a team of doctors, gave me

866
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: beat powder. Do you use beat powder?

867
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: No?

868
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: I don't.

869
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh she said, it's like taking ozembic.

870
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: It is.

871
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: Yes, you lose weight with it. It's extremely good for

872
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: heart health.

873
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: I love beets.

874
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: Oh and you wait, you taste it. It's so delicious?

875
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: Are you putting it in your juice?

876
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: And I put it in my green juice?

877
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: Stop it?

878
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: It is delicious? Is it really? And you buy it?

879
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: She said, you can buy it at Whole Food.

880
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've just never had it before because

881
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't make because I don't believe juices.

882
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: Well, my juice is not as smoothie.

883
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: Well, your juice.

884
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: I used to drink a lot of celery juice.

885
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: And a lot of when I was doing that for

886
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: a long time. I do too.

887
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: But my juice, my juice has celery, it has spinach,

888
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: it has cucumber, it has ginger. It now has beat

889
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: powder for juice. Yeah, it's very good. Summer and Parsley.

890
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: Less of parsley personally, so good for you.

891
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: And celery and celery leaves, very good.

892
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: The celery leave.

893
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: I think celery leaves are underrated.

894
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: I love them in a salad, and I feel like

895
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: people don't use them enough. A lot of celery leaves.

896
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: I love celery leaves. I love the taste of.

897
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: It, and so healthy and orange peel.

898
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: That's amazing. Is peel amazing?

899
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good juice. But now the beats make it

900
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: even better. Oh my gosh, Yes, I'm quite quite these

901
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: with the beats. I don't know what it's if it's

902
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: acting like ozembic with me yet.

903
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: But we're really looking good, real, you're looking good.

904
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: What are the telltale signs that someone should consider giving

905
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: up gluten and other inflammatory ingredients.

906
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: So this is what I wanted to talk about.

907
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: So for me, when I did this three days of

908
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: trying this, you know, no gums, no seed oils, it

909
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: was literally Martha like, because I'm like, I'm not going

910
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: to treat this as a diet. I'm going to give

911
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 2: myself three days while I'm stuck here in a health

912
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: rout cheat. But I literally felt like by day three

913
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: my brain fog had lifted, I lose lighter physically, like

914
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: my bloat was gone, my stomach wasn't distended anymore, I

915
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: didn't feel and it was just by making these simple

916
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: swaps of changing oils. For instance, I would go and

917
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: order you know, way I go to restaurants, I ask

918
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: everyone whenever if I'm out to cook my food in

919
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: pure olive oil, And a lot of the times when

920
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: you ask the people that work there, I would say,

921
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: can you please check with the chef to make sure

922
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: it's not a blend, because most of the time it's

923
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: a blend because it's cheaper for restaurants to have canola

924
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: oil with the olive oil. So by just doing this,

925
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: but isn't But I mean right, it's not like it's

926
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: your butter. So you want to be really careful, so

927
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: you have to ask for things like that. But I

928
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: literally felt like a different person and it was addictive.

929
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: So I know what it feels like to feel completely

930
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 2: cleaned out and clear minded and have more energy.

931
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: You're a student enough to under to realize it.

932
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: Correct.

933
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people don't realize. They don't

934
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: take the time to think, what's making me feel not

935
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: so good?

936
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of people just don't want

937
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: to do it. That's another thing. And I think until

938
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: people actually get physically ill, do they make the change.

939
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: And I think that's that's the problem with the United

940
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: States too, is people wait and there's so many of

941
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: the fast food, so many of these you know, ways

942
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 2: that people eat.

943
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Or what are the telltale signs that that you should

944
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: pay attention to that would encourage you to change your diet.

945
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: So if you're living with chronic inflammation, so chronic inflammation,

946
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: you know, there's obviously there's a cute inflamation, which is

947
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: when you cut yourself or anything that your body goes

948
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: to repair. If you're feeling slower in your day to

949
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: lay life, you know, I'm fifty four years old, you know,

950
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: in perimenopause. I'm not in menopause yet. I think it's

951
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: really important to pay attention to the fact that you

952
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: feel a little more scattered, and so for me, I

953
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: feel more centered. I also have ADHD, so it's sort

954
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: of it's all of these things that helps center me

955
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: a little bit. But so if people are feeling a little.

956
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: Bit, I wouldn't know if I had any of those.

957
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Undiagnosed ADHD.

958
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: My father, I don't ever think about anything like that.

959
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: I just have never, ever, ever been that aware of

960
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: how I feel.

961
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: Well. You need to be Martha. We need you here.

962
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: But I I live, I've lived, I know.

963
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: But I want you to feel better. I want you

964
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: to feel that you feel like, oh, you know what today,

965
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: I want you to do this for three days. I

966
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: want to give you a challenge to do this for

967
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: three days to see how you feel. You can have alcohol.

968
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: I don't drink very much, but you know it's tonight

969
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: I might have a drink after this.

970
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I am going to try. I'm going

971
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: to I'm going to cut out gluten. Cut out gluten

972
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: is I mean kind out? I mean you don't how

973
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: much bread I eat in a week of bread too, No,

974
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: you know how much?

975
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: How much?

976
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: Maybe two pieces? So do the seed bread. That's great,

977
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: that's gluten free and you can still eat bread. I

978
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: make these little green free balls a lot of stuff.

979
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I such clean food.

980
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: So you have your green juice in the morning. What

981
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: do you eat for lunch? And one cappuccino with whole

982
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: milk and then lunch. Till today, I didn't have lunch

983
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: until I ate a piece of seat toast with almond

984
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 2: butter and the honey on it. That was very good.

985
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: And what's your go to for dinner?

986
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: Japanese?

987
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: If I can really, I think that's a fact that

988
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't.

989
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: Wouldn't Japanese food really as I had it last night.

990
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 1: What do you normally get? Oh, it's a Japanese restaurant.

991
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: I have a soup usually it clears soup. I love

992
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: their grilled fish. I love sushi and I eat, I eat.

993
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: I can eat like ten pieces of sushi and that's it.

994
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe the atamamie. Maybe the last time

995
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: I had ginko nuts and those are very good for you.

996
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: So they were just roasted ginkonuts. That's delicious, and that's it.

997
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: That was that was genner. It was delicious.

998
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: I challenge you now though, because I don't do soy.

999
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: That's another thing in here. No soy and then so

1000
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: there's no rice. So I would challenge you to do

1001
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: sushimi and to make yourself up. So what I do

1002
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: when I go to sushi restaurants because I don't do soy,

1003
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: I squeeze a lot of lemon and I love I

1004
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: love with sabi. So I make a lemon with sabi dressing.

1005
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: And that's what I dip all my tuna and my salmon.

1006
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: And instead of eating the rice. Because sushi rice has

1007
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: a lot of sugar in it and a lot of

1008
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: well yeah, but it depends on where you go.

1009
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: That sushi Sudas doesn't use too much sugar. They use

1010
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: they use rice wine. But I love that rice. But

1011
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: I don't eat a lot of rice. I just but

1012
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: I love that food.

1013
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 3: Rice is gluten free.

1014
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, rice is gluten free.

1015
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: Gluten I but gluten is rice for sushi.

1016
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: But to see how you feel, give yourself three days

1017
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: and see how you feel, and eat this way and

1018
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: you might feel a little bit clearer. Let's get less

1019
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: gassy at like you know, that's the problem too, is

1020
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: I felt I always felt very gassy and distended and

1021
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: not not right, but also just I felt like my

1022
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: body was sort of shrink after deals. I don't do oats.

1023
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 4: You don't.

1024
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't do oats, even though they are gluten free.

1025
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: I don't do oats. I find them inflammatory for me.

1026
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: This is another thing that I say in this book, too,

1027
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: like if it works for you, it works for you.

1028
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: This is what works for me, and that's what I say.

1029
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: I'm not a nutritionist.

1030
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: I use it like a cracked, cracked oat, not a

1031
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: rolled oat. And a cracked oat that cooks like in

1032
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: seven minutes is delicious. It's crunchy and so delicious. God

1033
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: used to make it every more. Yeah, it's so good,

1034
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 1: and it has real taste. A quarter of a cup

1035
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: of it, you know that's not a lot?

1036
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1037
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: No, No, anyway, you're already beating pretty. I mean, you

1038
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 2: don't really have much work to do, Martha. My question

1039
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: is if there's anything you're refrigerated that you might think

1040
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: that you that comes from something like a jar or

1041
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: not a jar of I.

1042
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: Make my own condiments. I pickle my own pickles in

1043
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: my own pippers.

1044
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. We should pickle something together.

1045
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would, because I would love I would love

1046
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: to peppers.

1047
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: I'll bring you a jar, okay, I would love to.

1048
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: Thank you. I give them to Daisy.

1049
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Please make up artists, please, it's the whole jar on

1050
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: the way home from work.

1051
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Bichia peppers are so delicious.

1052
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I'll take anything you give me more

1053
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: with that ifn your eggs or eggs are insane.

1054
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: So what ingredients should you be aware of on the

1055
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: nutrition labels?

1056
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: The biggest thing in the United States and the biggest

1057
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: problem or gums in my opinion, shelf stabilize anthem and

1058
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: like war gum. You know, there's there's xanthem gum. It's

1059
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: in all of these things. And there's just things to

1060
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: preserve your food to last longer. You know. Natural flavors.

1061
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: That's another culprit too. It's not so natural so and

1062
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: it's actually highly addictive. So a lot of people that

1063
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: are drinking all those sparkling waters that have flavors and

1064
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: things in it, those are all really really bad for you.

1065
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be doing it.

1066
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: So easy swaps. If you're going to give up all

1067
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: this stuff, what are the easy swaps.

1068
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: So the easier swaps is just taking. So I eat

1069
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: a lot of protein and things like that. So instead

1070
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: of like eat meat, I eat meat. I eat every

1071
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: kind of meat I don't like. I don't like awful.

1072
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm not a big I'm not a big fan of that.

1073
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: You don't know what awful is.

1074
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: It's O F F A L and it is inerds.

1075
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: I'm not an INERDS person. The only INERD I like

1076
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 2: is liver. I don't like liver. I love liver. I

1077
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: don't know. I would love to like a liver pete

1078
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: like I just I just don't. It's not my vibe,

1079
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: it's not my thing. But I do. I just don't

1080
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: eat a lot of lamb because it's a little gamy

1081
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: for me. So it's not my favorite. But I do

1082
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: a lot of ground meat because a lot of people say,

1083
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: you know, things are very expensive.

1084
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: It's expensive to eat this way.

1085
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: It's expensive to you know, buy wild caught fish and

1086
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: making sure you're making wild getting caught fish. Pay attention

1087
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: at the grocery store. Instead of grabbing that farmed fish,

1088
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: grab that wildcot fish. If you don't have a fishmonger,

1089
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: you know, make sure you're getting if you don't have

1090
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: the proper places to shock.

1091
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: And what a difference to taste makes.

1092
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: It does mean.

1093
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: We went to Lake Powell recently for Thanksgiving.

1094
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: Of course I grew up going to Lake Powell going

1095
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: going house buating because I'm focus.

1096
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: For you, that's what it is. And we went out

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00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: on a boat it wasn't the houseboat, and my grandson

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00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: who's thirteen, caught me a big stripe bass. That's so cool.

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00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: I took it back to our hotel and they cooked

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00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: it for supper. It was the best fish I've had

1101
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: in a very long time.

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00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: That's really cool.

1103
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: What pure clean water Lake Powell is.

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00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 3: Fresh fish like that too.

1105
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: It's like there's nothing like it.

1106
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: There's something like it.

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00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: So making sure that you're buying you know, wild instead

1108
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: of farm, making sure you're cutting out the gums in

1109
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: your labels. You're trying to buy things that don't have

1110
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: any sugar in it, you know, hot sauces, condiments, things

1111
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 2: like that. I do recommend trying to get glass bottled

1112
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: condiments and things when you can.

1113
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: It is called white condiment or red condiment. That's the vinegar.

1114
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: Oh that is I've never heard of it.

1115
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: Oh, it is so fabulous, very expensive of bottle. Where's it?

1116
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: It's usually Italian or French. It's a vinegar, but it

1117
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: is called a condiment instead of vinegar. It is delicious.

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00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: I have to find.

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00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: I made addressing the other night with the olive oil,

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00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: a red condiment and a white condiment and capers chopped.

1121
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: Capers are so good and corny shown chop. I love

1122
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: coinage and celery leaves chopped, and salt pepper and digital mustard.

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00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: My man, it was so delicious on a homegrown salad.

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00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: Everybody asked. I had to bring all the ingredients out

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00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: and show everybody.

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00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: What it was.

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00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the recipes in your book.

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00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: It's just simplifying everything. It's really just taking things back

1130
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: to kind of like I said when we started, like

1131
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: how you your first book entertaining, it's all those recipes

1132
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: that are in there that are so it's still the same, yeah,

1133
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: And it's just kind of taking out those those years

1134
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: of where everyone went into all of the process foods

1135
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: and sort of taking it back. Yep. Don't open a can,

1136
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: don't open a bottle.

1137
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: Just try not to.

1138
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: Just try not to.

1139
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 1: If you cannot even to open bottles. Those are good, yeah,

1140
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: but don't open packages.

1141
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and try to soak your own beans if you can,

1142
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: because there's you know, there are all a lot of those.

1143
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: A lot of those cans are lined in plastic and

1144
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: they're also filled with salt.

1145
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: It's Maiden.

1146
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: Maiden is my new website, so I'm trying to get off.

1147
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: So it's my new It's where sort of my mad

1148
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: y n and Maiden means I was born on May first,

1149
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: so I'm a May first birthday. I kept my maiden

1150
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: name so I'm Jennifer Mullins Fisher when I got married.

1151
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: And it's for the den of all of my people

1152
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: out there. And I also think Maiden that the word

1153
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: in general has a negative connotation towards women, towards weak

1154
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: females that I don't like. I know we are strong females.

1155
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: So Maiden is where you can find my short and

1156
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: long form food content jen with Friends, which is sort

1157
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: of my conversations that I have with friends. I need

1158
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: to have you on yeah, it'd be fun, yeah, and

1159
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: everything will be on there, So getting it off of

1160
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: Instagram and sort of having a home for my recipes

1161
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 2: also my packing tips fashion, which we were talking about.

1162
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: We should talk about you and getting you on this

1163
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: and together and what's next for Jennifer Fisher. Well, we

1164
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: are growing in jewelry, so we're looking to grow the

1165
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: jewelry business and I'm looking to, you know, take this

1166
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: into more. I'm a big believer in doing what you

1167
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: want to do, not what people think you should do.

1168
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: So as an accessory designer, a lot of people said, oh,

1169
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: why are you making you know, shoes and handbags right away?

1170
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: And I didn't want to.

1171
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: I wanted to make salt and that made sense for

1172
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: me for who I am. So I think it's really

1173
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 2: important to follow what you want to do. I think

1174
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: you're being original. Thank you. It's really good, Thanks Martin.

1175
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 1: And it's so exciting to see a product take off

1176
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: like a salt. I mean, amazing love a salt.

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00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: It's an interesting but you know, if you if you're

1178
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: eating simple foods that are not packed with sodium, that

1179
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 2: aren't packaged, you need salt.

1180
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: Ye, indeed, So thanks for a nice conversation. Thank you

1181
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 1: so very much. Trust your gut is available wherever books

1182
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: are sold, that means on Amazon or in the bookstores.

1183
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: And let our listeners know where they can find you

1184
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: your jewelry and your healthy cooking ventures.

1185
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: So at Jennifer Fisher Jewelry is the jewelry. At Maiden

1186
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: m A E. D y N is all of my

1187
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 2: cooking and my food and all of my food recipes

1188
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 2: and tips from Trust your Gut. And at Jennifer Fisher

1189
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: is just my personal ones. So that's where I am

1190
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 2: with my clothes and things.

1191
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh great, yeah, well, thank you, Thanks to as you

1192
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: very soon are the best.

1193
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 2: Thanks