Speaker 1: Welcome.
Speaker 2: It is verdict with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with
Speaker 2: you and Senator it is a victory dance. It's got
Speaker 2: some meat and potatoes with it. Donald Trump putting together
Speaker 2: his cabinet and it is well making the media light
Speaker 2: their hair on fire. And a lot of conservatives have
Speaker 2: voted for Donald Trump are liking the payoff. There's consequences
Speaker 2: when you win and when you lose, especially if you're
Speaker 2: a Democrat.
Speaker 3: Today, well, change is on the way and the change
Speaker 3: is coming. As Trump would say, Bigley, we are seeing
Speaker 3: major nominations for cabinet members, for senior officials in the
Speaker 3: White House. We're going to go through all of those,
Speaker 3: give you a sense of where the new administration is
Speaker 3: coming out, give you a sense of what to expect
Speaker 3: in the next two months, and then in January when
Speaker 3: the new Congress is sworn in, and then when the
Speaker 3: new president is sworn in. We're also going to tell
Speaker 3: you particularly I just think funny story about how utterly
Speaker 3: corrupt today's Democrat Party is, about how they paid millions
Speaker 3: and millions of dollars for their celebrity quote endorsers. That
Speaker 3: Kamala was basically in the business of purchasing fake endorsements.
Speaker 3: And I got to say, the fake endorsements they didn't work,
Speaker 3: but they sure did spend a lot of money giving
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Speaker 2: this is an interesting list of all these different positions
Speaker 2: that have been filled by Trump. Early on, you and
Speaker 2: I were talking before the show. We actually know these people.
Speaker 2: I know several of them very well. You know them
Speaker 2: well as also. And I actually want to start with
Speaker 2: a really important post, and that is the ambassador to
Speaker 2: Israel and former governor of Arkansas. Mike Cuckabee is getting
Speaker 2: that position. That that one made me grin from ear
Speaker 2: to ear.
Speaker 3: Well, Mike Kakabi will do a terrific job in that regard.
Speaker 3: Huckabee obviously was governor of Arkansas, but also was a
Speaker 3: Baptist pastor for many years. And Mike loves Israel. He
Speaker 3: loves the people of Israel, he loves the Jewish people.
Speaker 3: He has been an outspoken advocate for Israel, and I
Speaker 3: think it will be an appointment that he will enjoy profoundly.
Speaker 3: It will be markedly different from how things have been
Speaker 3: under the last four years. And I think it shows
Speaker 3: just how important changing the page on the Biden Harris
Speaker 3: abandonment of Israel will be because Mike Huckabee will stand
Speaker 3: unshakably with the state of Israel. And that's going to
Speaker 3: be also President Trump's view is to stand unshakably with Israel.
Speaker 3: It's why under the Trump administration the first term, we
Speaker 3: saw peace flower in the Middle East. It's why we
Speaker 3: saw peace a war break out in the Middle East
Speaker 3: because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris undermined is Real and
Speaker 3: sent billions of dollars to our enemies. It's a great appointment.
Speaker 3: And you know, as you're looking at the appointments that
Speaker 3: have come out, let's start with the White House. So
Speaker 3: the White House are the kind of core team right
Speaker 3: around the president. First appointment that was announced as the
Speaker 3: White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. Now, who is
Speaker 3: Susie Wiles. Susie Wiles is President Trump's campaign manager. She's
Speaker 3: been a political operative forever. She's going to become the
Speaker 3: first woman to serve as a White House Chief of staff.
Speaker 3: And Susie is someone who has worked for. She ran
Speaker 3: Rick Scott's campaign, we ran for governor, she ran Ronda
Speaker 3: santisus campaign, and in fact, if you go way back,
Speaker 3: she was deputy director during Reagan's nineteen eighty campaign. So
Speaker 3: she's a longtime political operative. I'll tell you, I know
Speaker 3: Susie a little bit. I don't know her very well,
Speaker 3: but her reputation is someone who's very effective, who doesn't
Speaker 3: like the limelight, is not out seeking to be in front,
Speaker 3: is not looking for a bunch of glowing media profiles.
Speaker 2: But his intern election night, when Donald Trump tried to
Speaker 2: get her to talk, and she would, and she would,
Speaker 2: she went she went to the back of the of
Speaker 2: the of the stage.
Speaker 1: Is like, she walked up, said it low, and then left.
Speaker 3: I mean that's have you ever seen that in all
Speaker 3: of politics? Have you ever seen that?
Speaker 2: No, everybody's usually clamoring to get in front of a
Speaker 2: microphone and talk and have their moment in the sunshine.
Speaker 1: And it was very clear there. I think her body language.
Speaker 2: That night was We've got work to do, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we just won, but now the work begins. And that
Speaker 2: is her type of focus and also really her mo
Speaker 2: for her entire career.
Speaker 3: Look Susie's reputation as a serious person who gets things done.
Speaker 3: That's a good thing, I will tell you, objectively speaking.
Speaker 3: Trump's twenty twenty four campaign was by far his best
Speaker 3: run campaign. It wasn't even close. It was much much
Speaker 3: better than how the twenty sixteen campaign was run. And
Speaker 3: it was much much better than how the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: campaign was run. There was greater organization, there was greater discipline,
Speaker 3: there was better execution. It just they played at a
Speaker 3: different level. So that's a strong opening appointment. Now right
Speaker 3: behind it is the deputy chief of staff, the Deputy
Speaker 3: chief of staff for policy, and that's Steven Miller. Now
Speaker 3: Steven is someone I know very very well. Steven used
Speaker 3: to be a White Hill staffer. He was Jeff sessions
Speaker 3: top person on immigration policy when Sessions was a Senator,
Speaker 3: was a colleague of mine. Sessions was one of the
Speaker 3: leading immigration hawks in the Senate. And Steven is as
Speaker 3: smart as hell. He knows the substance of immigration law
Speaker 3: exceedingly well. And I'm confident there's not going to be
Speaker 3: literally a single person in the administration more committed to
Speaker 3: securing the border than Steven Miller. He wakes up focused
Speaker 3: on that that is his priority. He is someone who
Speaker 3: he was in the first Trump White House, he was
Speaker 3: helping drive those policies, but from a lower profile position.
Speaker 3: Deputy chief of Staff for policy is a big deal.
Speaker 3: I'm glad Steven is in that job. I think he'll
Speaker 3: do a very good job.
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that when you expand out from
Speaker 2: there to some of the other positions Donald Trump is
Speaker 2: putting together. I think a team of people that he trusts,
Speaker 2: that he feels like is ready to go to work.
Speaker 2: Another example of that is the deep state. We know
Speaker 2: what the deep state has done to conservatives, we know
Speaker 2: what the deep state has done to Donald Trump and
Speaker 2: the people around him. And someone that we both know well,
Speaker 2: a Texan, has been named CIA director and John Ratcliffe,
Speaker 2: former congressman from Texas.
Speaker 1: In the Dallas area.
Speaker 2: This is a big appointment, obviously an important one, but
Speaker 2: also someone that saw from within in those last administration
Speaker 2: just how corrupt the deep state could be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very glad with this pick. John Ratcliffe is
Speaker 3: a good friend of mine. He's someone I know very well.
Speaker 3: He's someone who candidly I urged the Trump administration to
Speaker 3: appoint to this position. I think John is a good choice.
Speaker 3: You know, John was in the first Trump administration. He
Speaker 3: was he was a member of Congress, and then he
Speaker 3: was the Director of National Intelligence, and he really did
Speaker 3: an effective job taking on the deep state, and at
Speaker 3: a level that is exceptionally rare. It's hard to do.
Speaker 3: And John showed a seriousness. He'd been a US attorney
Speaker 3: before the Department of Justice. He has demonstrated a courage
Speaker 3: to take on embedded bureaucrats who were fighting against the president,
Speaker 3: fighting against the agenda of the president, and I think
Speaker 3: really fighting against the national interest. And sadly, after years
Speaker 3: of Obama and now Biden, you have hardcore leftists who
Speaker 3: have burrowed into two senior positions and they don't view
Speaker 3: their roles those positions as carrying out the policy priorities
Speaker 3: of the elected president. They don't view the role of
Speaker 3: those positions as following the instructions that they're given. Rather,
Speaker 3: they view their role as fighting against presidents they hate
Speaker 3: and policies they hate. And I think John is a
Speaker 3: serious guy who is going to be well positioned to
Speaker 3: try to turn that around. Look, turning CIA around is
Speaker 3: not easy, but I think John is a very, very
Speaker 3: good choice. As I said, he was one of the
Speaker 3: people that I've already leaned in and I urged the
Speaker 3: transition team to make exactly this appointment. So I think
Speaker 3: it's the next excellent one.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about DoD Traditionally it's been someone that's been
Speaker 2: a little bit older at the Department of Defense. It's
Speaker 2: so funny how quick these things happen and how things
Speaker 2: can change. You and I were at at the Republican
Speaker 2: Convention and the night of the acceptance speech.
Speaker 1: That final night. Afterwards, I went on.
Speaker 2: To host Fox Nation with the guy who's now been appointed,
Speaker 2: Pete Headseth as a Secretary of Defense, Jesse Waters and
Speaker 2: Fox tonight. They were just talking about how much they
Speaker 2: love this guy, how much, how well they know him,
Speaker 2: how he's an individual that has not only served as
Speaker 2: country in Iraq and Afghanistan, but he's also Ivy League educated,
Speaker 2: very smart guy, family man, actually lives in Tennessee and
Speaker 2: would go up to New York on the weekends to
Speaker 2: host Fox and Friends Weekend. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I think he shocked the world. Trump did when he said, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm appointing Pete as Secretary of Defense, saying no one
Speaker 2: loves America more than Pete does.
Speaker 1: And he understands war.
Speaker 2: He understands how powerful it can be, how hard it
Speaker 2: can be, how disruptive it can be, and how it
Speaker 2: can hurt people's families and American soldiers as well. And
Speaker 2: this is a guy that says, I don't want to
Speaker 2: start wars, I want to end wars, referring to Trump.
Speaker 2: Pete's been war in both of these countries in our
Speaker 2: lifetime and seen a lot.
Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and Pete's someone who's a friend to
Speaker 3: both of us. I like Pete personally. I consider him
Speaker 3: a friend. I think he does a great job. You
Speaker 3: know Pete's background. He was an infantry captain in the
Speaker 3: Army National Guard and he did tours in both Iraq
Speaker 3: and Afghanistan, and he ended up earning two Bronze Stars.
Speaker 3: He is currently one of the co hosts for Fox
Speaker 3: and Friends Weekend, and he has been since his military service.
Speaker 3: He has been in the media world more than anything else,
Speaker 3: including writing an important book on taking on the woke
Speaker 3: do D culture. Look, this is a nomination that is
Speaker 3: going to get some pushback. The Democrats are going to
Speaker 3: fight against this one. I'm predicting a real battle because
Speaker 3: typically defense secretaries are people who spent thirty forty fifty
Speaker 3: years either in the military running major military operations or
Speaker 3: running major logistical corporations, running big institutions, and Pete does
Speaker 3: not have that background. So I expect Democrats to attack
Speaker 3: him for that. That being said, I assume that Trump
Speaker 3: has nominated Pete because he is in particular focused on
Speaker 3: taking on the generals who were involved in the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one Afghanistan withdraw that was utterly disastrous. He has
Speaker 3: also been really courageous and outspoken fighting to eliminate the
Speaker 3: woke initiatives that have taken over the military. And so
Speaker 3: I think Pete at DoD will do something very similar
Speaker 3: to what Ratcliffe is going to do at CIA, which
Speaker 3: is he's going to come in with a real mission
Speaker 3: of clearing out the hardcore partisans who burrowed into senior
Speaker 3: career positions. I think that's a good thing, but I
Speaker 3: would also anti dissipate. At his confirmation hearings, I think
Speaker 3: we'll see some fireworks. I think we'll see some Democrats
Speaker 3: going after Pete, and so'll that'll be a fight I
Speaker 3: expect in the.
Speaker 2: Senate let's talk about arming this audience. And this is
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why I love this show is
Speaker 2: because we get to give people some of the talking
Speaker 2: points that they may not hear anywhere else. And you
Speaker 2: look at Pete in his nomination. You said there's gonna
Speaker 2: be fireworks. We've already seen a lot of this happen
Speaker 2: on social media over the last I don't know, six
Speaker 2: seven hours since this broke, and they're like, he's unqualified.
Speaker 1: You look at Pete.
Speaker 2: He graduated from Princeton, and then he has a graduate
Speaker 2: degree from Harvard. He's an Army COMA.
Speaker 3: Wait, let me stop you, Ben. So you're saying, I
Speaker 3: just want to understand, as an old misgrad you're saying
Speaker 3: it is a good thing to have a degree from
Speaker 3: Princeton and Harvard. I just want to specify exactly the
Speaker 3: meets and bounds of what you're saying.
Speaker 2: All Right, I feel like I'm on sitting now for
Speaker 2: a job in the administration. What I'm let me clarify
Speaker 2: to my remarks. So what I'm saying is it's not
Speaker 2: necessarily a bad thing to go to an ivy school,
Speaker 2: but obviously common sense and going to by the Way,
Speaker 2: and that Ben is phenomenal as well.
Speaker 3: Be Ben, I didn't get a chance to compliment you
Speaker 3: on the record for the ass kicking that ole miss
Speaker 3: unleashed on Georgia.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I was waiting for the text, I really was.
Speaker 2: I thought for sure I was going to get a
Speaker 2: text from you about that game because it was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Like, holy cow, you got reason to be pretty proud.
Speaker 2: I knew you were in that moment thinking, man, that
Speaker 2: would have been fun to go to that school. When
Speaker 2: you rush the field at the end, you pulled out
Speaker 2: a goals post. Have you'll ever done a goal post
Speaker 2: of the IVY school before? I'm serious?
Speaker 3: See what, we don't actually score goals, so we don't
Speaker 3: have goalposts. That fair fair enough, So we go to
Speaker 3: we go to the fifty yard line and we play chess.
Speaker 3: It's it's a very different game. We do it in pads,
Speaker 3: so but it's it's chest. Nonetheless, you know they.
Speaker 2: Say the biggest day at a football stadium high league
Speaker 2: school is graduation day. When you guys are actually getting
Speaker 2: graduated graduating, You know that, right, Like that's the most
Speaker 2: attended day there is, all right, So.
Speaker 3: I will tell you when I was in college George
Speaker 3: Schultz was the Secretary of State under Ronald Reagan. And
Speaker 3: he's a Princeton grad. And the rumor which everyone acknowledges
Speaker 3: is that George Schultz had on his rear end a
Speaker 3: tattoo of a Princeton tiger. And so Schultz would come
Speaker 3: to Princeton football games, and if you went to the stadium,
Speaker 3: you would see the band would line up in the
Speaker 3: shape of Schultz's.
Speaker 1: Ass, Are you serious?
Speaker 3: And the mascot would go and lay down on one cheek.
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, as a nineteen year old, all right,
Speaker 3: you have really made it in life when your rear
Speaker 3: end is on the fifty yard line of your alma mater.
Speaker 1: At an Ivy League alma mater. At that's that's a
Speaker 1: valid point, valid valid point. You look at Pete.
Speaker 2: He graduated Princeton and then graduate graduate degree from Harvard.
Speaker 2: The guy's an Army combat veteran who did tours. And
Speaker 2: again this is where I armed this audience with the facts.
Speaker 2: Guantanamo Bay, check that mark that box, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Speaker 2: And as you mentioned earlier, for his actions on the battlefield,
Speaker 2: he was decorated with not one, but two Bronze Stars
Speaker 2: as well as a combat infantryman's badge to boot now.
Speaker 2: I tonight had an interesting text message from a warrior,
Speaker 2: a Sealed Team six member, who said, it's about blanking
Speaker 2: time that America has someone that went to war, understands
Speaker 2: modern warfare, understands PTSD, and advocates for those that are
Speaker 2: mentally wounded in our armed forces, like Pete has done
Speaker 2: for years. I don't care what anybody says. I'll re
Speaker 2: enlist and I will go back, and I would stand
Speaker 2: under this man. I think there's a lot of military
Speaker 2: veterans that have that mentality as well well.
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, Pete does not have the traditional
Speaker 3: criterion that many prior DoD secretaries have of twenty thirty
Speaker 3: forty years experience running massive, multi thousand, hundred thousand person
Speaker 3: organizations and being dooda secretary is incredibly complicated because talk
Speaker 3: about like turning a battleship doesn't even begin that that
Speaker 3: analogy is not even close to how complicated it is.
Speaker 3: That being said, what Pete brings in addition to being
Speaker 3: a combat veteran himself is he brings experience calling out
Speaker 3: the ideological rot that Barack Obama and Joe Biden put
Speaker 3: into our military, and so I think Pete. There's a
Speaker 3: reason I drew the analogy between Pete and John Radcliffe,
Speaker 3: which is I think both of them, the latter has
Speaker 3: shown and I think the former will show a willingness
Speaker 3: to take on the corruption that is damaging the institution
Speaker 3: they've been sent to. That courage, that clarity, that is rare,
Speaker 3: and it's one of the reasons why I think the
Speaker 3: Left is going to attack him and attack him really hard.
Speaker 1: Let me ask one another question about this.
Speaker 2: Does this mean that there's a real chance And we
Speaker 2: haven't talked about this in a few months, I think
Speaker 2: it's a perfect time to go back and really talk
Speaker 2: about this. Is the reinstatement of men and women in
Speaker 2: our military that were kicked out because they refuse to
Speaker 2: get vaccinated with the Republican singer of the House, and
Speaker 2: that's official. We haven't actually gotten to mention that on
Speaker 2: the show. So let's just have that little moment of
Speaker 2: victory that Republicans retain the House, we have, the Senate,
Speaker 2: we have the presidency. Is there a chance that those
Speaker 2: men and women that were kicked out of our military
Speaker 2: could actually come back in?
Speaker 1: Is that an issue? You think will come up in January.
Speaker 3: I hope and pray that it does. As you know, Ben,
Speaker 3: I am the author of the legislation that ended thexine,
Speaker 3: the vaccine mandate in the military. The Biden administration had
Speaker 3: thrown out thousands, if not tens of thousands of active
Speaker 3: duty military members, and I drafted the legislation that Congress
Speaker 3: passed into law that ended that COVID vaccine mandate. It
Speaker 3: made sense, we got it done. I tried very, very
Speaker 3: hard to make the end of the vaccine mandate retroactive.
Speaker 3: In other words, there were some ten thousand servicemen and
Speaker 3: women who'd been thrown out. To say, look, if you're
Speaker 3: no longer requiring it, you ought to let back in
Speaker 3: the people you threw out, particularly when we've got a
Speaker 3: shortage of servicemen and women. These are very experienced. In
Speaker 3: some cases, you're talking about seal team members, Army rangers,
Speaker 3: very experienced, highly trained military men and women who were
Speaker 3: thrown out unceremoniously. In many instances, is thrown out with
Speaker 3: a less than honorable discharge, so they received less in
Speaker 3: terms of pension and benefits. And I'll tell you when
Speaker 3: I've fought for that we have not been able to
Speaker 3: get that legislation to pass. Every single Democrat, all of
Speaker 3: them voted no. They voted no, We're not going to
Speaker 3: allow those who were thrown out of the military for
Speaker 3: not getting the COVID vaccine back into the military, even
Speaker 3: though today the military doesn't require it anymore. And sadly,
Speaker 3: we had two Republicans who also voted no, which was
Speaker 3: really frustrating.
Speaker 2: What was the reason behind that? Did they give it
Speaker 2: the time because I don't remember.
Speaker 3: So the two Republicans were Mitt Romney, met will be
Speaker 3: gone and then Mike Rounds and I'm frustrated. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I disagreed with it. I really was arguing forcefully.
Speaker 3: I do have some real optimism going forward. We'll get
Speaker 3: this fixed. I think with a Republican House and Senate,
Speaker 3: I'm going to fight very hard to get that. In
Speaker 3: the next iteration of the NDAA, the NDAA is the
Speaker 3: National Defense Authorization Act. I also am going to press
Speaker 3: the Department of Defense if they can just to do
Speaker 3: it unilatterally, I'm pretty sure they can. Although I say this,
Speaker 3: I have not studied the legal questions, so that is
Speaker 3: an instinct rather than the result of a studied analysis.
Speaker 3: But when Pete is confirmed as Defense Secretary, I'm going
Speaker 3: to urge Pete that he at the outset says, if
Speaker 3: you've been discharged for failure to get this vaccine, you
Speaker 3: are invited to be readmitted and returned to your old
Speaker 3: rank and your and your old position.
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Speaker 2: and uh, I want to get your take on this
Speaker 2: because it went viral when it happened. Donald Trump has
Speaker 2: selected Elon Musk and the vic Ramaswami to lead the
Speaker 2: Department of Government Efficiency.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I was asked the question right after this broke on
Speaker 2: social media. Wait, is that even an actual department of
Speaker 2: the US government.
Speaker 1: Or is this made up?
Speaker 2: I laughed, Wait, there's a lot of people that actually
Speaker 2: want to know what is this, does it exists?
Speaker 1: Is this something new?
Speaker 2: And how big of a deal it is that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump picked the Tesla CEO and ex owner Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: and an entrepreneur and former Republican President of Canada, Vivic Gramuswati,
Speaker 2: to lead this Department of quote Government Efficiency.
Speaker 3: Well, it is not currently a government agency. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's an accident that Department of Governmental Efficiency spells
Speaker 3: out Doge, since Elon is a very vocal supporter of
Speaker 3: the doge coin cryptocurrency. I think that was quite deliberate. Listen,
Speaker 3: I'm very glad that Elon is going to play a
Speaker 3: critical role in the administration, focusing on making government work
Speaker 3: more effectively and more efficiently. I'm glad Viveks too. He's
Speaker 3: a very smart guy. I know them both very well.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you I spent thirty minutes on the phone
Speaker 3: with Elon this week talking about precisely this mission, how
Speaker 3: you make government operate more effectively, and Elon is dealing
Speaker 3: right now with There is a major difference between government
Speaker 3: agencies and the private sector. There are lots of differences,
Speaker 3: and you know, one of the things I pointed out,
Speaker 3: there's a fantastic economist man named Ludig von Misis, who
Speaker 3: was one of the founding fathers of the Austrian School
Speaker 3: of economics. Brilliant man wrote a lot of different things,
Speaker 3: but he wrote a book called on Bureaucracy and von
Speaker 3: Mesis and on Bureaucracy, what he argued is that inevitably
Speaker 3: you have people who come from the private sector who
Speaker 3: come into government and they say, we're going to make
Speaker 3: government more efficient, We're going to make it operate like
Speaker 3: a business. And von Mesis argued that is always, always,
Speaker 3: always doomed to failure. And he explained why. He said, Listen,
Speaker 3: government lacks the essential element of any private enterprise, and
Speaker 3: that is the profit motive. And the analogy he uses.
Speaker 3: He says, Okay, look, Ben, let's say you have a
Speaker 3: private company. You have, say a barbecue restaurant in Memphis.
Speaker 3: If you're running your barbecue restaurant in Memphis, every single
Speaker 3: employee at the restaurant is motivated by the profit incentive.
Speaker 3: If the janitor, the guy who is sweeping up the
Speaker 3: spilled barbecue sauce in the restaurant, if he comes to
Speaker 3: you and says, mister ferguson, I've got an idea that
Speaker 3: can reduce our costs by ten percent and that can
Speaker 3: increase revenues by five percent. So my guess is a
Speaker 3: Ben you'd listen to him. You'd be like, Okay, I
Speaker 3: want to hear that idea. Yeah, my guess is number two.
Speaker 3: If his idea was right, that guy ain't going to
Speaker 3: be sweeping floors any longer. He is immediately going to
Speaker 3: get a promotion because for him and everyone else at
Speaker 3: the restaurant, the incentive is the profit motive that that
Speaker 3: unified the incentives of everyone in the private sector. In contrast,
Speaker 3: and this is what von Misis argues in on bureaucracy,
Speaker 3: in government, there is no profit motive, and in fact,
Speaker 3: the incentives are precisely the obverse. Let's say you're running
Speaker 3: a particular office and a government agency, and you've got
Speaker 3: a million people who are receiving ten billion dollars in benefits.
Speaker 3: Your incentives are not to reduce the number of people
Speaker 3: receiving those benefits. Your incentives are not to reduce the
Speaker 3: amount of benefits they're receiving. Instead, what are your incentives
Speaker 3: in government? Your incentives and government are to increase the
Speaker 3: one million people to a million, five or two million.
Speaker 3: Your incentives are to increase the ten million dollars in
Speaker 3: benefits to fifteen billion or twenty million. Your incentives are
Speaker 3: to take your say, thousand people that were work for
Speaker 3: you and increase it to two thousand or three thousand.
Speaker 3: All of your incentives not only are they not aligned
Speaker 3: on the profit motive, they are exactly the opposite of
Speaker 3: the profit motive. So I actually I recommended Elon he
Speaker 3: read the book. He did not know the book, and
Speaker 3: we spent about thirty minutes talking about how do you
Speaker 3: change this beast that is government. You're never going to
Speaker 3: make it quickened in. But I also talked about the
Speaker 3: fact that a huge problem with government is that you
Speaker 3: cannot fire government employees. Generally speaking, there are civil service
Speaker 3: protections in place that if you try to fire someone,
Speaker 3: you have litigation. It's very difficult. And I pointed out
Speaker 3: to Elon, look, when you went into Twitter, you fired
Speaker 3: what sixty percent of the employees. That is a flexibility
Speaker 3: that you have and what it means. And I tried
Speaker 3: to lay this out to him as well. So I said, listen,
Speaker 3: at Teslas SpaceX, my guess is you have very very
Speaker 3: few employees who wake up every day with their mission
Speaker 3: and life being to stop you, to frustrate the objectives
Speaker 3: of the company, and to try to make them fail.
Speaker 3: And if you did have any employees that were doing that,
Speaker 3: you'd fire them because they work for you, and that'd
Speaker 3: be it. In government, particularly with the deep state, there
Speaker 3: are literally thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of deep
Speaker 3: state employees who wake up every day with their objective,
Speaker 3: their mission being to stop everything Donald Trump is trying
Speaker 3: to accomplish. And so I'm really glad that Elon is
Speaker 3: doing this, and I think Vivek is very smart. I
Speaker 3: think Vivek will add to that. We will get some
Speaker 3: good results out of it, but it is going to
Speaker 3: be an incredibly important and incredibly challenging endeavor. And I'll
Speaker 3: say Elon is as smart a person as I have
Speaker 3: ever encountered. And look, I've been blessed. I've actually run
Speaker 3: in some circles where I've known some freakishly smart people,
Speaker 3: including people like Chief Justice William Renquist and Anton Scalia,
Speaker 3: and and Elon is just another level in terms of brilliant.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see what he can do in
Speaker 3: this role. But it is going to be I think
Speaker 3: his instinct is going to be to break some China
Speaker 3: and and we'll see how that plays out in the
Speaker 3: government world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the government world is a key point there.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about one of the most important appointments, and
Speaker 2: that is Tom Homan. And there are so many conservatives
Speaker 2: that voted for Donald Trump, so many Americans that voted
Speaker 2: for Donald Trump because they want to secure border. He's
Speaker 2: the former Immigration and Custom Enforcement Director. He has now
Speaker 2: been named Trump's Borders are tasked with cracking down on
Speaker 2: immigration and overseeing the southern border the northern border as well.
Speaker 2: And he said this on Fox yesterday.
Speaker 4: Look, I've seen I've seen some of these democratic governors,
Speaker 4: and they're going to stand in the way. They're going
Speaker 4: they're going to make a heart for us. Well, you
Speaker 4: know a suggestion, if you're not going to help us,
Speaker 4: get the hell on the way when we're going to
Speaker 4: do it. So if we can't get assistance from New
Speaker 4: York City, and I may we may have to double
Speaker 4: the number of.
Speaker 1: Raises we send in New York City because we're going
Speaker 1: to do the job. We're going to do the job
Speaker 1: without here or with you. It's very clear.
Speaker 2: Democrats already gearing up to fight against the government and deportations.
Speaker 2: He has said their number one goal is what you
Speaker 2: and I mentioned on the show. I think it was
Speaker 2: even before election day. They're going to go after the
Speaker 2: criminals first. They're going to go after the people that
Speaker 2: have already had due process and have been told that
Speaker 2: they are to be deported from this country. And again,
Speaker 2: this is where I love doing the show. Let's remind
Speaker 2: listeners and arm you guys with the facts. When when
Speaker 2: you hear the left say it's inhumane to deport people,
Speaker 2: do not forget Barack Obama deported more than three million
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants while he was president. So this idea that
Speaker 2: we're doing a million plus at or felons that have
Speaker 2: been convicted of crimes that have already had due process,
Speaker 2: don't fall for this because remind all of the people
Speaker 2: that say otherwise, Barack Obama deported more than three million
Speaker 2: illegal immigrants when he was president.
Speaker 3: So Tom Homan is a serious guy. He cares passionately
Speaker 3: about defending this nation securing our borders. I am very
Speaker 3: very happy that Trump is named him borders are He
Speaker 3: also named Christy Nome, the governor South Dakota to be
Speaker 3: the Secretary of the Department Homeland Security. Homan and Nome
Speaker 3: will work hand in hand. I think that's going to
Speaker 3: be very effective. Tom Homan understands the border, he understands
Speaker 3: what is what it takes to secure the border, and
Speaker 3: I think he is going to be the point person
Speaker 3: driving the agenda. As I've predicted before. But I want
Speaker 3: people to hear this. It's November. We are still facing
Speaker 3: an invasion at our southern border. We are going to
Speaker 3: secure the border, and it is not going to take
Speaker 3: a year at not even going to take six months.
Speaker 3: It will be done by January and February of next year.
Speaker 3: And in February, Ben, I want you to play this
Speaker 3: clip back and either we're going to say the results
Speaker 3: are in Cruz was right, or hold me to account
Speaker 3: and say, Okay, it didn't happen. What went wrong. But
Speaker 3: either way, that's my prediction. And I think Tom Homan
Speaker 3: is going to be driving the effort to get that done,
Speaker 3: and I also think Stephen Miller, is Deputy Chief of Staff,
Speaker 3: will be driving it alongside him. I'm very optimistic about
Speaker 3: what we're going to get done on that front.
Speaker 2: And finally, when we're talking, and there's more names are
Speaker 2: going to come out, and we will continue to let
Speaker 2: you know what we think about them and how exciting
Speaker 2: this moment is. But there's one of your colleagues in
Speaker 2: the Senate, someone you know very well. There was a
Speaker 2: lot of people that were on the short list. I
Speaker 2: say a lot, a lot that you and I knew
Speaker 2: that were floated for the shortlist for Secretary of State.
Speaker 2: I was paying very close attention to this one, as
Speaker 2: I know you were. And and the nominee is going
Speaker 2: to be your colleague, the Florida Republican Senator Marco Rubio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is terrific. I think Marco is
Speaker 3: going to do a good job.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: He is focused on foreign policy quite a bit his
Speaker 3: entire time in the Senate. Marco is smart, He cares
Speaker 3: about foreign policy. He cares about standing up to communists,
Speaker 3: especially in Cuba. He cares about standing up to communist
Speaker 3: in China. Marco is more interventionist on foreign policy than
Speaker 3: I am. But that being said, he cares deeply about it,
Speaker 3: and and and so I think he is more interventionist
Speaker 3: on foreign policy than Trump is. And at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, Trump is going to make the decisions.
Speaker 3: But I think Marco is someone who is diplomatic, He
Speaker 3: is articulate, he will be he will be a very
Speaker 3: effective diplomat for America. I think it's a great choice.
Speaker 3: I think it's a natural fit. I will tell you so.
Speaker 3: So I sent Marco a text tonight which I'll go
Speaker 3: ahead and and and and read to you what I
Speaker 3: send him. I sent Mark of the following text. Congrats, sir,
Speaker 3: A big damn deal. You join an historic roster including
Speaker 3: John Jay Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall, James Madison, James Monroe,
Speaker 3: John Quincy, Adams, Henry Clay, Daniel Webster, John Calhoun, William Jennings,
Speaker 3: Bryan Charles Evans, Hughes, Henry Stimpson, George Marshall, Dean Atchison,
Speaker 3: John Foster, Dulles, Dean Rusk, Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, and
Speaker 3: James Baker. Truly rarefied air. Every Cuban is deeply proud.
Speaker 3: And then I finished it with and I'm confident at
Speaker 3: least that you'll kick the ass of Hillary and John Kerry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Barr, but I couldn't agree with you more
Speaker 2: on that one. Right, It's I have no idea. I
Speaker 2: have no doubt I should say that Marco was going
Speaker 2: to laugh when he reads that last part of the text.
Speaker 3: So he did laugh, and he responded, I will almost
Speaker 3: never out my colleagues text, but I think Marco would
Speaker 3: forgive me for this. His response was, he said, there
Speaker 3: is hope for the Cuban Caucus, and then he sends
Speaker 3: me a story from Latin Times. Social media users launch
Speaker 3: campaign to get pit Bull appointed to Marco Rubio's Senate seat.
Speaker 3: Ron de Santus has only one choice, and I could
Speaker 3: only respond to that spectacular.
Speaker 1: You gotta love it.
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Speaker 1: Two five, Senator.
Speaker 2: One other story is Donald Trump is getting his cabinet
Speaker 2: together and making appointments.
Speaker 1: That has not gotten a lot of attention is the.
Speaker 2: Take out the trash, everybody throwing everybody under the bus
Speaker 2: in the Biden camp, the Harris camp. We find out
Speaker 2: she blew through a billion dollars, she's upside down in debt.
Speaker 2: They're begging for money with text messages to liberals saying
Speaker 2: we need your help with accounting of the votes and
Speaker 2: give money.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: I wish I was joking, but I'm not, and I
Speaker 2: don't know. Someone said eighteen twenty million upside down. And
Speaker 2: then we found out where a lot of the donations
Speaker 2: actually went. The donations were going to celebrities. Oprah's had
Speaker 2: to come out after there was a million dollar check
Speaker 2: given to her Quote production company for production of a
Speaker 2: one day sit down interview that we many people saw
Speaker 2: on TV with Oprah. It doesn't call it's a million
Speaker 2: dollars to produce that, but that was the price tag.
Speaker 2: And then we found out that there were a lot
Speaker 2: of celebrities that were being paid to act like they
Speaker 2: loved Kamala Harris. And there are some Democratic donors that
Speaker 2: are livid right now over the price tag on this.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a terrific article in the Spectator World
Speaker 3: entitled Kamala Harris ran the Fry Festival of Campaigns, and
Speaker 3: it points out that Trump's campaign spent roughly four hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty eight million dollars and Kamala spent more than
Speaker 3: a billion, so she outspent Trump. More than two to one,
Speaker 3: and Kamala's campaign ended up twenty million dollars in debt. Well,
Speaker 3: it turns out where did that money go. Well, one
Speaker 3: of the things that went to is they paid many
Speaker 3: of the quote unquote celebrities who supported her. We were
Speaker 3: getting paid and getting paid significant sums. So for example,
Speaker 3: remember the Call Me Daddy podcast? Yeah, well apparently the
Speaker 3: campaign spent upwards of six figures to build a custom
Speaker 3: set for her appearance on the podcast, and the podcast
Speaker 3: netted only eight hundred thousand downloads, less than a million downloads. Look, Ben,
Speaker 3: you and I we have roughly a million unique listeners.
Speaker 3: If she wanted eight hundred thousand downloads, I'll tell you,
Speaker 3: Kamala right now, even though you've lost Ben and I
Speaker 3: will invite you on Verdict right now. We will welcome you.
Speaker 3: We will not charge you to build a set, so
Speaker 3: you can save all your money. And you paid Oprah
Speaker 3: a million dollars for production costs, we will charge you
Speaker 3: for production costs on Verdict. What do you think fifty bucks?
Speaker 1: Sure? I think I took a fair price. Fifty bucks.
Speaker 3: Fifty bucks will get you a very nice coffee cup
Speaker 3: with some Jamaican blue Mountain coffee. That's what we'll spend
Speaker 3: the fifty bucks on and you can reach the same
Speaker 3: number of people. All right. By the way, she also
Speaker 3: turned down Joe so call me Daddy. Got eight hundred
Speaker 3: thousand downloads. How many do you think Joe Rogan's interview
Speaker 3: of Donald Trump got a lot more than that? Forty
Speaker 3: seven million?
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot. Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 3: So there were also seven Swing state concerts with expensive performers,
Speaker 3: and it turns out every one of them they got
Speaker 3: a price. It is the world's oldest profession and they
Speaker 3: are charging for it. So who are the performers that
Speaker 3: got paid millions of dollars? Katie Perry, Lady Gaga, John
Speaker 3: bon Jovi, Ricky Martin.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you're.
Speaker 2: Telling me now of these people were like doing it
Speaker 2: for free because they were all in for Comma.
Speaker 1: They wanted to get paid.
Speaker 3: That show me the money. They ended up spending more
Speaker 3: than twenty million dollars on event production alone. Oprah, as
Speaker 3: you noted, charged a million dollars, and they went so
Speaker 3: far into debt that the campaign and allegedly had to
Speaker 3: scrap Alanis Morisset. They were planning to do a lot
Speaker 3: of Morisset and they said, no, okay, we can't afford
Speaker 3: her anymore. Nevermind. I mean it is truly stunning, and
Speaker 3: you've got to wonder, like I gotta say, I don't
Speaker 3: get paying millions of dollars for celebrities to fake endorse
Speaker 3: someone she spent paid money to. What Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go over the big ones.
Speaker 2: This is coming from Fox and I'm gonna play this
Speaker 2: this audio.
Speaker 1: Take a listen.
Speaker 2: This is again from Fox, as they were going through
Speaker 2: how much cash was spent.
Speaker 1: I can't get over these numbers.
Speaker 5: Ten million dollars for Beyonce to step up and back
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris publicly, five million for Megan the Stallion, three
Speaker 5: million for Lizzo, one point eight million for eminem was that.
Speaker 2: Those numbers are unbelievable if you just look at them.
Speaker 2: And I was like, hold on a second, and I
Speaker 2: went back and watched that clip a couple of different times,
Speaker 2: because you look at them.
Speaker 1: Ten million for Beyonce.
Speaker 2: If you're a donor and you wrote a big check Meghan,
Speaker 2: this Stallion, five million, Lizzo three million and one point
Speaker 2: eight million, I called on, I just raised all this
Speaker 2: money for you and this is how you spent it.
Speaker 3: Look, I gotta say I've run a bunch of campaigns.
Speaker 3: I ran my first campaign for Senate in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: I ran my next campaign for president in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: We won twelve states all over the country. I ran
Speaker 3: my next campaign for Senate again in twenty eighteen, and
Speaker 3: I just finished running my most recent campaign for Senate
Speaker 3: reelect a third term in twenty twenty four. I can
Speaker 3: tell you, in the whole time, I've never paid any
Speaker 3: one a million dollars for anything. I don't think we
Speaker 3: paid any entertainers. I don't know of any entertainers we paid.
Speaker 3: Maybe at some point we paid five or ten grand
Speaker 3: for someone performing at some party. I'm not aware of it.
Speaker 3: But I can tell you this. Look our stars now,
Speaker 3: to be clear, the stars we have at our events
Speaker 3: are our international, supermodeled, global talents like Ben Ferguson. And
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2: What that ten million dollar payday once in my career
Speaker 2: like oh yeah, Beyondest say yeah, yeah, I'm all in
Speaker 2: for the cause, but I just need ten million to.
Speaker 1: Make it happen.
Speaker 3: Okay, Ben, To be clear, we don't pay you ten dollars,
Speaker 3: No that's Look, I'm a fiscal conservative. Dammit. If you
Speaker 3: want to be there and you believe in saving the country,
Speaker 3: stand up and save the country. And if not, get
Speaker 3: the hell out. But like, what is it with these
Speaker 3: lefties who ironically they want to put socialists in office
Speaker 3: who make it impossible for people to earn a living,
Speaker 3: and yet they're such capitalists that they're like, show me
Speaker 3: the money to do it. I mean, there is an
Speaker 3: intense hypocrisy on this.
Speaker 1: I believe this.
Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying this because this moment in
Speaker 2: this headline, but I'm being dead serious. This could be
Speaker 2: a huge problem for democratic canants moving forward, because when
Speaker 2: you see this type of abuse of campaign finance money
Speaker 2: from donors, those same donors, somebody's going to be asking
Speaker 2: them for money and four years or less than four
Speaker 2: years from now.
Speaker 3: And I'm, by the way, the question the next time
Speaker 3: Beto O'Rourke, Collin all Red jumps on a stage with
Speaker 3: with Willie Nelson, Everyone's going to ask how much you
Speaker 3: pay him?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How much of my money did did I gave you?
Speaker 2: Did you just give him for that thirteen minutes of
Speaker 2: him singing? It's an question and.
Speaker 3: It undermines the entire credibility that I'm here because I
Speaker 3: love America so much and you've got to vote for
Speaker 3: this candidate. Look, i'll give you an example in the
Speaker 3: presidential race. So one of the cooler people that I
Speaker 3: got to meet and spend time with was Phil Robertson,
Speaker 3: you know from Duck Dynasty.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and here was I mean massive back in
Speaker 2: the day, like unbelievable star.
Speaker 3: Huge star. And so so he invited me to Monroe,
Speaker 3: Louisiana to come stay at his place. And I went
Speaker 3: out duck hunting with Phil, which by the way, ranks
Speaker 3: among the coolest things I've ever gotten to do. And
Speaker 3: we went to the duck blind. We're there at four
Speaker 3: in the morning. Look, i'd like to hunt in Texas.
Speaker 3: I gotta be careful about what I say because there's
Speaker 3: so many really serious hunters that I can't overstate. I
Speaker 3: go hunting a couple times a year. I enjoy it,
Speaker 3: but I'm not someone who lives and breathes it. Phil
Speaker 3: in that duck blind, I have never seen a person
Speaker 3: who is a better shot with a shotgun. He would
Speaker 3: drop birds at a distance that I wouldn't pick up
Speaker 3: my gun. They were too far away. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: if the duck flies over here, I'll shoot it, but
Speaker 3: I can't shoot it way over there. And he would
Speaker 3: just boom and then the dogs would swim out and
Speaker 3: grab the duck and bring it back. And Phil, I'll
Speaker 3: tell you, So I went there and spent the day
Speaker 3: when hunting with him. He recorded an ad for our
Speaker 3: campaign that we put out. It remains one of my
Speaker 3: favorite ads we've ever done. I'm all like wearing camo
Speaker 3: grease pain and I'm in the duck blind with Phil.
Speaker 3: It was really cool. But Phil, it was during the
Speaker 3: Iowa Caucuses and we asked, Phil, will you come to
Speaker 3: Iowa and campaign with me? And Phil, for something like
Speaker 3: forty years, had not missed a single day of duck season.
Speaker 3: He'd been out there every single day for four decades,
Speaker 3: and we'd invited him to come. And that morning he
Speaker 3: went to the blind at four in the morning and
Speaker 3: he's sitting there in the blind, and I guess you know,
Speaker 3: it weighed on his heart. I can't do this today.
Speaker 3: I need to go fight to save America. And Phil
Speaker 3: left the blind and he went and hopped on a
Speaker 3: plane and he flew to Iowa and he did a
Speaker 3: big rally with me in Iowa, and I told him then,
Speaker 3: I'm like, Phil, I am beyond humboldt that you missed
Speaker 3: the first day of duck season in forty years to
Speaker 3: be here in campaign alongside me. Now, I didn't writehim
Speaker 3: a damn check to do that.
Speaker 2: I just said, if you gave him Beyonce money, you
Speaker 2: know you're like, oh, and by the way, here's ten
Speaker 2: million dollars.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: No, I just said, come help save America. And it
Speaker 3: meant a lot like for him to miss it. And
Speaker 3: that day we were literally touch and go. We didn't
Speaker 3: know who's gonna come, but it meant a big deal
Speaker 3: when he came. If you're paying Beyonce ten million dollars,
Speaker 3: I mean, my good I mean goodness. Who would she
Speaker 3: not endorse for ten million dollars? No, it's a very
Speaker 3: fair question.
Speaker 2: And it's like, would any of these celebrities have showed
Speaker 2: up for her if she wasn't paying them? Not tens
Speaker 2: of thousands, not one hundred of thousands, but literally millions
Speaker 2: of dollars. I think it's gonna be a very interesting
Speaker 2: talking point in politics moving forward. It's like, is anyone
Speaker 2: that's actually endorsing these democrats or celebrities not on the take.
Speaker 1: Is it all just a massive payday?
Speaker 2: They get a chance out every four years, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see how that fold, how that
Speaker 2: is dealt with a couple of years from now, when
Speaker 2: Democrats are on stage again with a bunch of famous
Speaker 2: people and they're gonna have to now answer questions about it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really fun.
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