1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: It is verdict with center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: you and Senator it is a victory dance. It's got 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: some meat and potatoes with it. Donald Trump putting together 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: his cabinet and it is well making the media light 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: their hair on fire. And a lot of conservatives have 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: voted for Donald Trump are liking the payoff. There's consequences 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: when you win and when you lose, especially if you're 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: a Democrat. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: Today, well, change is on the way and the change 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: is coming. As Trump would say, Bigley, we are seeing 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: major nominations for cabinet members, for senior officials in the 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: White House. We're going to go through all of those, 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: give you a sense of where the new administration is 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 3: coming out, give you a sense of what to expect 16 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: in the next two months, and then in January when 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: the new Congress is sworn in, and then when the 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: new president is sworn in. 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That 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: Kamala was basically in the business of purchasing fake endorsements. 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: And I got to say, the fake endorsements they didn't work, 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 3: but they sure did spend a lot of money giving 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: Hollywood celebrities cash to pretend they had political views and 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 3: to hope that that would move voters' votes. 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot of cash and donors aren't 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: happy about it. We're going to break that down as well. 29 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: I want to tell you about Patriot Mobile. 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And I actually want to start with 77 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: a really important post, and that is the ambassador to 78 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Israel and former governor of Arkansas. Mike Cuckabee is getting 79 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 2: that position. That that one made me grin from ear 80 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: to ear. 81 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: Well, Mike Kakabi will do a terrific job in that regard. 82 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: Huckabee obviously was governor of Arkansas, but also was a 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 3: Baptist pastor for many years. And Mike loves Israel. He 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: loves the people of Israel, he loves the Jewish people. 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: He has been an outspoken advocate for Israel, and I 86 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: think it will be an appointment that he will enjoy profoundly. 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: It will be markedly different from how things have been 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: under the last four years. And I think it shows 89 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: just how important changing the page on the Biden Harris 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: abandonment of Israel will be because Mike Huckabee will stand 91 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: unshakably with the state of Israel. And that's going to 92 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: be also President Trump's view is to stand unshakably with Israel. 93 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: It's why under the Trump administration the first term, we 94 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: saw peace flower in the Middle East. It's why we 95 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: saw peace a war break out in the Middle East 96 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris undermined is Real and 97 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: sent billions of dollars to our enemies. It's a great appointment. 98 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: And you know, as you're looking at the appointments that 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: have come out, let's start with the White House. So 100 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: the White House are the kind of core team right 101 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: around the president. First appointment that was announced as the 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. Now, who is 103 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: Susie Wiles. Susie Wiles is President Trump's campaign manager. She's 104 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: been a political operative forever. She's going to become the 105 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: first woman to serve as a White House Chief of staff. 106 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: And Susie is someone who has worked for. She ran 107 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: Rick Scott's campaign, we ran for governor, she ran Ronda 108 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: santisus campaign, and in fact, if you go way back, 109 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: she was deputy director during Reagan's nineteen eighty campaign. So 110 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: she's a longtime political operative. I'll tell you, I know 111 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: Susie a little bit. I don't know her very well, 112 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 3: but her reputation is someone who's very effective, who doesn't 113 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: like the limelight, is not out seeking to be in front, 114 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: is not looking for a bunch of glowing media profiles. 115 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: But his intern election night, when Donald Trump tried to 116 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 2: get her to talk, and she would, and she would, 117 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: she went she went to the back of the of 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 2: the of the stage. 119 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: Is like, she walked up, said it low, and then left. 120 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 3: I mean that's have you ever seen that in all 121 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: of politics? Have you ever seen that? 122 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 2: No, everybody's usually clamoring to get in front of a 123 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: microphone and talk and have their moment in the sunshine. 124 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: And it was very clear there. I think her body language. 125 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 2: That night was We've got work to do, Like, yeah, 126 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: we just won, but now the work begins. And that 127 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: is her type of focus and also really her mo 128 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: for her entire career. 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: Look Susie's reputation as a serious person who gets things done. 130 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: That's a good thing, I will tell you, objectively speaking. 131 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: Trump's twenty twenty four campaign was by far his best 132 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: run campaign. It wasn't even close. It was much much 133 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: better than how the twenty sixteen campaign was run. And 134 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 3: it was much much better than how the twenty twenty 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: campaign was run. There was greater organization, there was greater discipline, 136 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: there was better execution. It just they played at a 137 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: different level. So that's a strong opening appointment. Now right 138 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: behind it is the deputy chief of staff, the Deputy 139 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: chief of staff for policy, and that's Steven Miller. Now 140 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: Steven is someone I know very very well. Steven used 141 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: to be a White Hill staffer. He was Jeff sessions 142 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: top person on immigration policy when Sessions was a Senator, 143 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: was a colleague of mine. Sessions was one of the 144 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: leading immigration hawks in the Senate. And Steven is as 145 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: smart as hell. He knows the substance of immigration law 146 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: exceedingly well. And I'm confident there's not going to be 147 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 3: literally a single person in the administration more committed to 148 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: securing the border than Steven Miller. He wakes up focused 149 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,559 Speaker 3: on that that is his priority. He is someone who 150 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: he was in the first Trump White House, he was 151 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: helping drive those policies, but from a lower profile position. 152 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: Deputy chief of Staff for policy is a big deal. 153 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: I'm glad Steven is in that job. I think he'll 154 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: do a very good job. 155 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that when you expand out from 156 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: there to some of the other positions Donald Trump is 157 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: putting together. I think a team of people that he trusts, 158 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: that he feels like is ready to go to work. 159 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: Another example of that is the deep state. We know 160 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: what the deep state has done to conservatives, we know 161 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: what the deep state has done to Donald Trump and 162 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: the people around him. And someone that we both know well, 163 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: a Texan, has been named CIA director and John Ratcliffe, 164 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: former congressman from Texas. 165 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: In the Dallas area. 166 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: This is a big appointment, obviously an important one, but 167 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: also someone that saw from within in those last administration 168 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: just how corrupt the deep state could be. 169 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very glad with this pick. John Ratcliffe is 170 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: a good friend of mine. He's someone I know very well. 171 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: He's someone who candidly I urged the Trump administration to 172 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: appoint to this position. I think John is a good choice. 173 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: You know, John was in the first Trump administration. He 174 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: was he was a member of Congress, and then he 175 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: was the Director of National Intelligence, and he really did 176 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 3: an effective job taking on the deep state, and at 177 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: a level that is exceptionally rare. It's hard to do. 178 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: And John showed a seriousness. He'd been a US attorney 179 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 3: before the Department of Justice. He has demonstrated a courage 180 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: to take on embedded bureaucrats who were fighting against the president, 181 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: fighting against the agenda of the president, and I think 182 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: really fighting against the national interest. And sadly, after years 183 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: of Obama and now Biden, you have hardcore leftists who 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: have burrowed into two senior positions and they don't view 185 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 3: their roles those positions as carrying out the policy priorities 186 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: of the elected president. They don't view the role of 187 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: those positions as following the instructions that they're given. Rather, 188 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: they view their role as fighting against presidents they hate 189 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: and policies they hate. And I think John is a 190 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: serious guy who is going to be well positioned to 191 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: try to turn that around. Look, turning CIA around is 192 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: not easy, but I think John is a very, very 193 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: good choice. As I said, he was one of the 194 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: people that I've already leaned in and I urged the 195 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: transition team to make exactly this appointment. So I think 196 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: it's the next excellent one. 197 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: Let's talk about DoD Traditionally it's been someone that's been 198 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: a little bit older at the Department of Defense. It's 199 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: so funny how quick these things happen and how things 200 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: can change. You and I were at at the Republican 201 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: Convention and the night of the acceptance speech. 202 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: That final night. Afterwards, I went on. 203 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: To host Fox Nation with the guy who's now been appointed, 204 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 2: Pete Headseth as a Secretary of Defense, Jesse Waters and 205 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: Fox tonight. They were just talking about how much they 206 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: love this guy, how much, how well they know him, 207 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: how he's an individual that has not only served as 208 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: country in Iraq and Afghanistan, but he's also Ivy League educated, 209 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: very smart guy, family man, actually lives in Tennessee and 210 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: would go up to New York on the weekends to 211 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: host Fox and Friends Weekend. And all of a sudden, 212 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: I think he shocked the world. Trump did when he said, Hey, 213 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: I'm appointing Pete as Secretary of Defense, saying no one 214 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: loves America more than Pete does. 215 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: And he understands war. 216 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: He understands how powerful it can be, how hard it 217 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: can be, how disruptive it can be, and how it 218 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: can hurt people's families and American soldiers as well. And 219 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: this is a guy that says, I don't want to 220 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: start wars, I want to end wars, referring to Trump. 221 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: Pete's been war in both of these countries in our 222 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: lifetime and seen a lot. 223 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and Pete's someone who's a friend to 224 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: both of us. I like Pete personally. I consider him 225 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 3: a friend. I think he does a great job. You 226 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: know Pete's background. He was an infantry captain in the 227 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: Army National Guard and he did tours in both Iraq 228 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: and Afghanistan, and he ended up earning two Bronze Stars. 229 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: He is currently one of the co hosts for Fox 230 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: and Friends Weekend, and he has been since his military service. 231 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 3: He has been in the media world more than anything else, 232 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: including writing an important book on taking on the woke 233 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: do D culture. Look, this is a nomination that is 234 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: going to get some pushback. The Democrats are going to 235 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: fight against this one. I'm predicting a real battle because 236 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: typically defense secretaries are people who spent thirty forty fifty 237 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: years either in the military running major military operations or 238 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: running major logistical corporations, running big institutions, and Pete does 239 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: not have that background. So I expect Democrats to attack 240 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: him for that. That being said, I assume that Trump 241 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: has nominated Pete because he is in particular focused on 242 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 3: taking on the generals who were involved in the twenty 243 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: twenty one Afghanistan withdraw that was utterly disastrous. He has 244 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: also been really courageous and outspoken fighting to eliminate the 245 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: woke initiatives that have taken over the military. And so 246 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: I think Pete at DoD will do something very similar 247 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: to what Ratcliffe is going to do at CIA, which 248 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: is he's going to come in with a real mission 249 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: of clearing out the hardcore partisans who burrowed into senior 250 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: career positions. I think that's a good thing, but I 251 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: would also anti dissipate. At his confirmation hearings, I think 252 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 3: we'll see some fireworks. I think we'll see some Democrats 253 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: going after Pete, and so'll that'll be a fight I 254 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: expect in the. 255 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: Senate let's talk about arming this audience. And this is 256 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: one of the reasons why I love this show is 257 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: because we get to give people some of the talking 258 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: points that they may not hear anywhere else. And you 259 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: look at Pete in his nomination. You said there's gonna 260 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: be fireworks. We've already seen a lot of this happen 261 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: on social media over the last I don't know, six 262 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: seven hours since this broke, and they're like, he's unqualified. 263 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: You look at Pete. 264 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 2: He graduated from Princeton, and then he has a graduate 265 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: degree from Harvard. He's an Army COMA. 266 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: Wait, let me stop you, Ben. So you're saying, I 267 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: just want to understand, as an old misgrad you're saying 268 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: it is a good thing to have a degree from 269 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: Princeton and Harvard. I just want to specify exactly the 270 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: meets and bounds of what you're saying. 271 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: All Right, I feel like I'm on sitting now for 272 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: a job in the administration. What I'm let me clarify 273 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: to my remarks. So what I'm saying is it's not 274 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: necessarily a bad thing to go to an ivy school, 275 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: but obviously common sense and going to by the Way, 276 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: and that Ben is phenomenal as well. 277 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 3: Be Ben, I didn't get a chance to compliment you 278 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: on the record for the ass kicking that ole miss 279 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: unleashed on Georgia. 280 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: Thank you. I was waiting for the text, I really was. 281 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: I thought for sure I was going to get a 282 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: text from you about that game because it was unbelievable. 283 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: Like, holy cow, you got reason to be pretty proud. 284 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: I knew you were in that moment thinking, man, that 285 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: would have been fun to go to that school. When 286 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: you rush the field at the end, you pulled out 287 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: a goals post. Have you'll ever done a goal post 288 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: of the IVY school before? I'm serious? 289 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 3: See what, we don't actually score goals, so we don't 290 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: have goalposts. That fair fair enough, So we go to 291 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: we go to the fifty yard line and we play chess. 292 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: It's it's a very different game. We do it in pads, 293 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: so but it's it's chest. Nonetheless, you know they. 294 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: Say the biggest day at a football stadium high league 295 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: school is graduation day. When you guys are actually getting 296 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: graduated graduating, You know that, right, Like that's the most 297 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: attended day there is, all right, So. 298 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: I will tell you when I was in college George 299 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: Schultz was the Secretary of State under Ronald Reagan. And 300 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: he's a Princeton grad. And the rumor which everyone acknowledges 301 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: is that George Schultz had on his rear end a 302 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: tattoo of a Princeton tiger. And so Schultz would come 303 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: to Princeton football games, and if you went to the stadium, 304 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: you would see the band would line up in the 305 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: shape of Schultz's. 306 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: Ass, Are you serious? 307 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: And the mascot would go and lay down on one cheek. 308 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, as a nineteen year old, all right, 309 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: you have really made it in life when your rear 310 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: end is on the fifty yard line of your alma mater. 311 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: At an Ivy League alma mater. At that's that's a 312 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: valid point, valid valid point. You look at Pete. 313 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: He graduated Princeton and then graduate graduate degree from Harvard. 314 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 2: The guy's an Army combat veteran who did tours. And 315 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 2: again this is where I armed this audience with the facts. 316 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: Guantanamo Bay, check that mark that box, Iraq and Afghanistan. 317 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: And as you mentioned earlier, for his actions on the battlefield, 318 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: he was decorated with not one, but two Bronze Stars 319 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: as well as a combat infantryman's badge to boot now. 320 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: I tonight had an interesting text message from a warrior, 321 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 2: a Sealed Team six member, who said, it's about blanking 322 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: time that America has someone that went to war, understands 323 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: modern warfare, understands PTSD, and advocates for those that are 324 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: mentally wounded in our armed forces, like Pete has done 325 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: for years. I don't care what anybody says. I'll re 326 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: enlist and I will go back, and I would stand 327 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: under this man. I think there's a lot of military 328 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: veterans that have that mentality as well well. 329 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: And I'll say this, Pete does not have the traditional 330 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: criterion that many prior DoD secretaries have of twenty thirty 331 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: forty years experience running massive, multi thousand, hundred thousand person 332 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: organizations and being dooda secretary is incredibly complicated because talk 333 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: about like turning a battleship doesn't even begin that that 334 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: analogy is not even close to how complicated it is. 335 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: That being said, what Pete brings in addition to being 336 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 3: a combat veteran himself is he brings experience calling out 337 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: the ideological rot that Barack Obama and Joe Biden put 338 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: into our military, and so I think Pete. There's a 339 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: reason I drew the analogy between Pete and John Radcliffe, 340 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: which is I think both of them, the latter has 341 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: shown and I think the former will show a willingness 342 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 3: to take on the corruption that is damaging the institution 343 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 3: they've been sent to. That courage, that clarity, that is rare, 344 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: and it's one of the reasons why I think the 345 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: Left is going to attack him and attack him really hard. 346 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask one another question about this. 347 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 2: Does this mean that there's a real chance And we 348 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: haven't talked about this in a few months, I think 349 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: it's a perfect time to go back and really talk 350 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: about this. Is the reinstatement of men and women in 351 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: our military that were kicked out because they refuse to 352 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: get vaccinated with the Republican singer of the House, and 353 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: that's official. We haven't actually gotten to mention that on 354 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: the show. So let's just have that little moment of 355 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: victory that Republicans retain the House, we have, the Senate, 356 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 2: we have the presidency. Is there a chance that those 357 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: men and women that were kicked out of our military 358 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 2: could actually come back in? 359 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: Is that an issue? You think will come up in January. 360 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: I hope and pray that it does. As you know, Ben, 361 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 3: I am the author of the legislation that ended thexine, 362 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: the vaccine mandate in the military. The Biden administration had 363 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: thrown out thousands, if not tens of thousands of active 364 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: duty military members, and I drafted the legislation that Congress 365 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: passed into law that ended that COVID vaccine mandate. It 366 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: made sense, we got it done. I tried very, very 367 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: hard to make the end of the vaccine mandate retroactive. 368 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: In other words, there were some ten thousand servicemen and 369 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 3: women who'd been thrown out. To say, look, if you're 370 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: no longer requiring it, you ought to let back in 371 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: the people you threw out, particularly when we've got a 372 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: shortage of servicemen and women. These are very experienced. In 373 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 3: some cases, you're talking about seal team members, Army rangers, 374 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: very experienced, highly trained military men and women who were 375 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: thrown out unceremoniously. In many instances, is thrown out with 376 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: a less than honorable discharge, so they received less in 377 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: terms of pension and benefits. And I'll tell you when 378 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 3: I've fought for that we have not been able to 379 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: get that legislation to pass. Every single Democrat, all of 380 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: them voted no. They voted no, We're not going to 381 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: allow those who were thrown out of the military for 382 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 3: not getting the COVID vaccine back into the military, even 383 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: though today the military doesn't require it anymore. And sadly, 384 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: we had two Republicans who also voted no, which was 385 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: really frustrating. 386 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: What was the reason behind that? Did they give it 387 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: the time because I don't remember. 388 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: So the two Republicans were Mitt Romney, met will be 389 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 3: gone and then Mike Rounds and I'm frustrated. I don't 390 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 3: know why I disagreed with it. I really was arguing forcefully. 391 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 3: I do have some real optimism going forward. We'll get 392 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: this fixed. I think with a Republican House and Senate, 393 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to fight very hard to get that. In 394 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: the next iteration of the NDAA, the NDAA is the 395 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: National Defense Authorization Act. I also am going to press 396 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: the Department of Defense if they can just to do 397 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 3: it unilatterally, I'm pretty sure they can. Although I say this, 398 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: I have not studied the legal questions, so that is 399 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: an instinct rather than the result of a studied analysis. 400 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: But when Pete is confirmed as Defense Secretary, I'm going 401 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: to urge Pete that he at the outset says, if 402 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: you've been discharged for failure to get this vaccine, you 403 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: are invited to be readmitted and returned to your old 404 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: rank and your and your old position. 405 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you real quick about keeping 406 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: your family safe. And if you carry a firearm, you 407 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: know that that's your motive to protect yourself and your family. 408 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 2: But what happens if you have to actually use that 409 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: firearm to protect yourself. What happens if you're up against 410 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: an activist DA that cannot stand people just like you 411 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: that exercise or Second Amendment right, Well, you're at risk 412 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: of losing everything. And that is why over eight hundred 413 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: thousand Americans are members of the USCCA. Now I've had 414 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: to use my firearm to save my life. I had 415 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: to pull the trigger, and I can tell you I 416 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: wish I would have known more about what my rights 417 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: were in the moments after that incident took place. Well, 418 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: you don't have to worry if you remember the USCCA, 419 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: because not only will you get access to their Protector Academy, 420 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: which teaches you vital skills like precision shooting and how 421 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: to fortify your home against criminals. But you also get 422 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: access to the twenty four to seven Critical Response Team 423 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 2: and the included benefit of self defense Liability insurance to 424 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: make sure that you and your family are prepared for 425 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: anything and for a limited time. If you text the 426 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 2: word America right now, text the word America to eight 427 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: seven to to you're going to get the uscca's free 428 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: Life Saving Concealed Carrey and Family Defense Guide, plus a 429 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: chance to win seventeen hundred dollars to buy any self 430 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: defense gear you. 431 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: Need before it's too late. So what are you waiting on? 432 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: Text the word America right now to eight seven to 433 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: two two. That's the word America. Text it to eight 434 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: seven two two two right now. Senator, there's an interesting 435 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: and uh, I want to get your take on this 436 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: because it went viral when it happened. Donald Trump has 437 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: selected Elon Musk and the vic Ramaswami to lead the 438 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 2: Department of Government Efficiency. 439 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: Now. 440 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: I was asked the question right after this broke on 441 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: social media. Wait, is that even an actual department of 442 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: the US government. 443 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: Or is this made up? 444 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: I laughed, Wait, there's a lot of people that actually 445 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: want to know what is this, does it exists? 446 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: Is this something new? 447 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: And how big of a deal it is that Donald 448 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: Trump picked the Tesla CEO and ex owner Elon Musk, 449 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: and an entrepreneur and former Republican President of Canada, Vivic Gramuswati, 450 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: to lead this Department of quote Government Efficiency. 451 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: Well, it is not currently a government agency. I don't 452 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 3: think it's an accident that Department of Governmental Efficiency spells 453 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: out Doge, since Elon is a very vocal supporter of 454 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: the doge coin cryptocurrency. I think that was quite deliberate. Listen, 455 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 3: I'm very glad that Elon is going to play a 456 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: critical role in the administration, focusing on making government work 457 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: more effectively and more efficiently. I'm glad Viveks too. He's 458 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 3: a very smart guy. I know them both very well. 459 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: I'll tell you I spent thirty minutes on the phone 460 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: with Elon this week talking about precisely this mission, how 461 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: you make government operate more effectively, and Elon is dealing 462 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 3: right now with There is a major difference between government 463 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: agencies and the private sector. There are lots of differences, 464 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: and you know, one of the things I pointed out, 465 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: there's a fantastic economist man named Ludig von Misis, who 466 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: was one of the founding fathers of the Austrian School 467 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: of economics. Brilliant man wrote a lot of different things, 468 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: but he wrote a book called on Bureaucracy and von 469 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: Mesis and on Bureaucracy, what he argued is that inevitably 470 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: you have people who come from the private sector who 471 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: come into government and they say, we're going to make 472 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: government more efficient, We're going to make it operate like 473 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 3: a business. And von Mesis argued that is always, always, 474 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: always doomed to failure. And he explained why. He said, Listen, 475 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 3: government lacks the essential element of any private enterprise, and 476 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: that is the profit motive. And the analogy he uses. 477 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: He says, Okay, look, Ben, let's say you have a 478 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 3: private company. You have, say a barbecue restaurant in Memphis. 479 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: If you're running your barbecue restaurant in Memphis, every single 480 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: employee at the restaurant is motivated by the profit incentive. 481 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 3: If the janitor, the guy who is sweeping up the 482 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: spilled barbecue sauce in the restaurant, if he comes to 483 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: you and says, mister ferguson, I've got an idea that 484 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 3: can reduce our costs by ten percent and that can 485 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 3: increase revenues by five percent. So my guess is a 486 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 3: Ben you'd listen to him. You'd be like, Okay, I 487 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: want to hear that idea. Yeah, my guess is number two. 488 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: If his idea was right, that guy ain't going to 489 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 3: be sweeping floors any longer. He is immediately going to 490 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: get a promotion because for him and everyone else at 491 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 3: the restaurant, the incentive is the profit motive that that 492 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: unified the incentives of everyone in the private sector. In contrast, 493 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: and this is what von Misis argues in on bureaucracy, 494 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: in government, there is no profit motive, and in fact, 495 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: the incentives are precisely the obverse. Let's say you're running 496 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: a particular office and a government agency, and you've got 497 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: a million people who are receiving ten billion dollars in benefits. 498 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: Your incentives are not to reduce the number of people 499 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: receiving those benefits. Your incentives are not to reduce the 500 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: amount of benefits they're receiving. Instead, what are your incentives 501 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: in government? Your incentives and government are to increase the 502 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: one million people to a million, five or two million. 503 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: Your incentives are to increase the ten million dollars in 504 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: benefits to fifteen billion or twenty million. Your incentives are 505 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: to take your say, thousand people that were work for 506 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: you and increase it to two thousand or three thousand. 507 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: All of your incentives not only are they not aligned 508 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: on the profit motive, they are exactly the opposite of 509 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: the profit motive. So I actually I recommended Elon he 510 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: read the book. He did not know the book, and 511 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: we spent about thirty minutes talking about how do you 512 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: change this beast that is government. You're never going to 513 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: make it quickened in. But I also talked about the 514 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: fact that a huge problem with government is that you 515 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 3: cannot fire government employees. Generally speaking, there are civil service 516 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: protections in place that if you try to fire someone, 517 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: you have litigation. It's very difficult. And I pointed out 518 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: to Elon, look, when you went into Twitter, you fired 519 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 3: what sixty percent of the employees. That is a flexibility 520 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: that you have and what it means. And I tried 521 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: to lay this out to him as well. So I said, listen, 522 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: at Teslas SpaceX, my guess is you have very very 523 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: few employees who wake up every day with their mission 524 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: and life being to stop you, to frustrate the objectives 525 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 3: of the company, and to try to make them fail. 526 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: And if you did have any employees that were doing that, 527 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 3: you'd fire them because they work for you, and that'd 528 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: be it. In government, particularly with the deep state, there 529 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: are literally thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of deep 530 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: state employees who wake up every day with their objective, 531 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: their mission being to stop everything Donald Trump is trying 532 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: to accomplish. And so I'm really glad that Elon is 533 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: doing this, and I think Vivek is very smart. I 534 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: think Vivek will add to that. We will get some 535 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: good results out of it, but it is going to 536 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: be an incredibly important and incredibly challenging endeavor. And I'll 537 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: say Elon is as smart a person as I have 538 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: ever encountered. And look, I've been blessed. I've actually run 539 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: in some circles where I've known some freakishly smart people, 540 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: including people like Chief Justice William Renquist and Anton Scalia, 541 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: and and Elon is just another level in terms of brilliant. 542 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see what he can do in 543 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 3: this role. But it is going to be I think 544 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: his instinct is going to be to break some China 545 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: and and we'll see how that plays out in the 546 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: government world. 547 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the government world is a key point there. 548 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 2: Let's talk about one of the most important appointments, and 549 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: that is Tom Homan. And there are so many conservatives 550 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: that voted for Donald Trump, so many Americans that voted 551 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump because they want to secure border. He's 552 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: the former Immigration and Custom Enforcement Director. He has now 553 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 2: been named Trump's Borders are tasked with cracking down on 554 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: immigration and overseeing the southern border the northern border as well. 555 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: And he said this on Fox yesterday. 556 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: Look, I've seen I've seen some of these democratic governors, 557 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 4: and they're going to stand in the way. They're going 558 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 4: they're going to make a heart for us. Well, you 559 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 4: know a suggestion, if you're not going to help us, 560 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 4: get the hell on the way when we're going to 561 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 4: do it. So if we can't get assistance from New 562 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: York City, and I may we may have to double 563 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: the number of. 564 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: Raises we send in New York City because we're going 565 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: to do the job. We're going to do the job 566 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: without here or with you. It's very clear. 567 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: Democrats already gearing up to fight against the government and deportations. 568 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: He has said their number one goal is what you 569 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: and I mentioned on the show. I think it was 570 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: even before election day. They're going to go after the 571 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: criminals first. They're going to go after the people that 572 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: have already had due process and have been told that 573 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: they are to be deported from this country. And again, 574 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: this is where I love doing the show. Let's remind 575 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: listeners and arm you guys with the facts. When when 576 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 2: you hear the left say it's inhumane to deport people, 577 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: do not forget Barack Obama deported more than three million 578 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants while he was president. So this idea that 579 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: we're doing a million plus at or felons that have 580 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: been convicted of crimes that have already had due process, 581 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: don't fall for this because remind all of the people 582 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: that say otherwise, Barack Obama deported more than three million 583 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: illegal immigrants when he was president. 584 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: So Tom Homan is a serious guy. He cares passionately 585 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: about defending this nation securing our borders. I am very 586 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 3: very happy that Trump is named him borders are He 587 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 3: also named Christy Nome, the governor South Dakota to be 588 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: the Secretary of the Department Homeland Security. Homan and Nome 589 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: will work hand in hand. I think that's going to 590 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 3: be very effective. Tom Homan understands the border, he understands 591 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,239 Speaker 3: what is what it takes to secure the border, and 592 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: I think he is going to be the point person 593 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: driving the agenda. As I've predicted before. But I want 594 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: people to hear this. It's November. We are still facing 595 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: an invasion at our southern border. We are going to 596 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: secure the border, and it is not going to take 597 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: a year at not even going to take six months. 598 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: It will be done by January and February of next year. 599 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: And in February, Ben, I want you to play this 600 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 3: clip back and either we're going to say the results 601 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: are in Cruz was right, or hold me to account 602 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: and say, Okay, it didn't happen. What went wrong. But 603 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: either way, that's my prediction. And I think Tom Homan 604 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: is going to be driving the effort to get that done, 605 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 3: and I also think Stephen Miller, is Deputy Chief of Staff, 606 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 3: will be driving it alongside him. I'm very optimistic about 607 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 3: what we're going to get done on that front. 608 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 2: And finally, when we're talking, and there's more names are 609 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 2: going to come out, and we will continue to let 610 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: you know what we think about them and how exciting 611 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 2: this moment is. But there's one of your colleagues in 612 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: the Senate, someone you know very well. There was a 613 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: lot of people that were on the short list. I 614 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 2: say a lot, a lot that you and I knew 615 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: that were floated for the shortlist for Secretary of State. 616 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: I was paying very close attention to this one, as 617 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: I know you were. And and the nominee is going 618 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 2: to be your colleague, the Florida Republican Senator Marco Rubio. 619 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is terrific. I think Marco is 620 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: going to do a good job. 621 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 4: Uh. 622 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 3: He is focused on foreign policy quite a bit his 623 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: entire time in the Senate. Marco is smart, He cares 624 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 3: about foreign policy. He cares about standing up to communists, 625 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: especially in Cuba. He cares about standing up to communist 626 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: in China. Marco is more interventionist on foreign policy than 627 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: I am. But that being said, he cares deeply about it, 628 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 3: and and and so I think he is more interventionist 629 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: on foreign policy than Trump is. And at the end 630 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: of the day, Trump is going to make the decisions. 631 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: But I think Marco is someone who is diplomatic, He 632 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: is articulate, he will be he will be a very 633 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 3: effective diplomat for America. I think it's a great choice. 634 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 3: I think it's a natural fit. I will tell you so. 635 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: So I sent Marco a text tonight which I'll go 636 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 3: ahead and and and and read to you what I 637 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: send him. I sent Mark of the following text. Congrats, sir, 638 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 3: A big damn deal. You join an historic roster including 639 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: John Jay Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall, James Madison, James Monroe, 640 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 3: John Quincy, Adams, Henry Clay, Daniel Webster, John Calhoun, William Jennings, 641 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 3: Bryan Charles Evans, Hughes, Henry Stimpson, George Marshall, Dean Atchison, 642 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 3: John Foster, Dulles, Dean Rusk, Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, and 643 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 3: James Baker. Truly rarefied air. Every Cuban is deeply proud. 644 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 3: And then I finished it with and I'm confident at 645 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: least that you'll kick the ass of Hillary and John Kerry. 646 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Barr, but I couldn't agree with you more 647 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 2: on that one. Right, It's I have no idea. I 648 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 2: have no doubt I should say that Marco was going 649 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: to laugh when he reads that last part of the text. 650 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: So he did laugh, and he responded, I will almost 651 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 3: never out my colleagues text, but I think Marco would 652 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: forgive me for this. His response was, he said, there 653 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 3: is hope for the Cuban Caucus, and then he sends 654 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: me a story from Latin Times. Social media users launch 655 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 3: campaign to get pit Bull appointed to Marco Rubio's Senate seat. 656 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 3: Ron de Santus has only one choice, and I could 657 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 3: only respond to that spectacular. 658 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: You gotta love it. 659 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: I want to tell you about the International Fellowship of 660 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 2: Christians and Jews. 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We find out 690 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: she blew through a billion dollars, she's upside down in debt. 691 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 2: They're begging for money with text messages to liberals saying 692 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 2: we need your help with accounting of the votes and 693 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: give money. 694 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 5: Now. 695 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 2: I wish I was joking, but I'm not, and I 696 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 2: don't know. Someone said eighteen twenty million upside down. And 697 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 2: then we found out where a lot of the donations 698 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: actually went. The donations were going to celebrities. Oprah's had 699 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: to come out after there was a million dollar check 700 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: given to her Quote production company for production of a 701 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 2: one day sit down interview that we many people saw 702 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,479 Speaker 2: on TV with Oprah. It doesn't call it's a million 703 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 2: dollars to produce that, but that was the price tag. 704 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 2: And then we found out that there were a lot 705 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 2: of celebrities that were being paid to act like they 706 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: loved Kamala Harris. And there are some Democratic donors that 707 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: are livid right now over the price tag on this. 708 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 3: You know, there's a terrific article in the Spectator World 709 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 3: entitled Kamala Harris ran the Fry Festival of Campaigns, and 710 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 3: it points out that Trump's campaign spent roughly four hundred 711 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: and eighty eight million dollars and Kamala spent more than 712 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 3: a billion, so she outspent Trump. More than two to one, 713 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 3: and Kamala's campaign ended up twenty million dollars in debt. Well, 714 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 3: it turns out where did that money go. Well, one 715 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 3: of the things that went to is they paid many 716 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 3: of the quote unquote celebrities who supported her. We were 717 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 3: getting paid and getting paid significant sums. So for example, 718 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 3: remember the Call Me Daddy podcast? Yeah, well apparently the 719 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 3: campaign spent upwards of six figures to build a custom 720 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 3: set for her appearance on the podcast, and the podcast 721 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 3: netted only eight hundred thousand downloads, less than a million downloads. Look, Ben, 722 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 3: you and I we have roughly a million unique listeners. 723 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 3: If she wanted eight hundred thousand downloads, I'll tell you, 724 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: Kamala right now, even though you've lost Ben and I 725 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 3: will invite you on Verdict right now. We will welcome you. 726 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 3: We will not charge you to build a set, so 727 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 3: you can save all your money. And you paid Oprah 728 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 3: a million dollars for production costs, we will charge you 729 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,720 Speaker 3: for production costs on Verdict. What do you think fifty bucks? 730 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: Sure? I think I took a fair price. Fifty bucks. 731 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 3: Fifty bucks will get you a very nice coffee cup 732 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 3: with some Jamaican blue Mountain coffee. That's what we'll spend 733 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 3: the fifty bucks on and you can reach the same 734 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 3: number of people. All right. By the way, she also 735 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 3: turned down Joe so call me Daddy. Got eight hundred 736 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 3: thousand downloads. How many do you think Joe Rogan's interview 737 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: of Donald Trump got a lot more than that? Forty 738 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 3: seven million? 739 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot. Okay, that's a lot. 740 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: So there were also seven Swing state concerts with expensive performers, 741 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 3: and it turns out every one of them they got 742 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 3: a price. It is the world's oldest profession and they 743 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: are charging for it. So who are the performers that 744 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 3: got paid millions of dollars? Katie Perry, Lady Gaga, John 745 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 3: bon Jovi, Ricky Martin. 746 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 1: Hold on, you're. 747 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 2: Telling me now of these people were like doing it 748 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 2: for free because they were all in for Comma. 749 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: They wanted to get paid. 750 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: That show me the money. They ended up spending more 751 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 3: than twenty million dollars on event production alone. Oprah, as 752 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: you noted, charged a million dollars, and they went so 753 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 3: far into debt that the campaign and allegedly had to 754 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 3: scrap Alanis Morisset. They were planning to do a lot 755 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 3: of Morisset and they said, no, okay, we can't afford 756 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 3: her anymore. Nevermind. I mean it is truly stunning, and 757 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 3: you've got to wonder, like I gotta say, I don't 758 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 3: get paying millions of dollars for celebrities to fake endorse 759 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 3: someone she spent paid money to. What Beyonce. 760 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: Well, let's go over the big ones. 761 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 2: This is coming from Fox and I'm gonna play this 762 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 2: this audio. 763 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: Take a listen. 764 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: This is again from Fox, as they were going through 765 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 2: how much cash was spent. 766 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:37,840 Speaker 1: I can't get over these numbers. 767 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 5: Ten million dollars for Beyonce to step up and back 768 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,919 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris publicly, five million for Megan the Stallion, three 769 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 5: million for Lizzo, one point eight million for eminem was that. 770 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 2: Those numbers are unbelievable if you just look at them. 771 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, hold on a second, and I 772 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 2: went back and watched that clip a couple of different times, 773 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 2: because you look at them. 774 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: Ten million for Beyonce. 775 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: If you're a donor and you wrote a big check Meghan, 776 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 2: this Stallion, five million, Lizzo three million and one point 777 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 2: eight million, I called on, I just raised all this 778 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: money for you and this is how you spent it. 779 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 3: Look, I gotta say I've run a bunch of campaigns. 780 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: I ran my first campaign for Senate in twenty twelve. 781 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 3: I ran my next campaign for president in twenty sixteen. 782 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 3: We won twelve states all over the country. I ran 783 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 3: my next campaign for Senate again in twenty eighteen, and 784 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 3: I just finished running my most recent campaign for Senate 785 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 3: reelect a third term in twenty twenty four. I can 786 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 3: tell you, in the whole time, I've never paid any 787 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 3: one a million dollars for anything. I don't think we 788 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 3: paid any entertainers. I don't know of any entertainers we paid. 789 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 3: Maybe at some point we paid five or ten grand 790 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 3: for someone performing at some party. I'm not aware of it. 791 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 3: But I can tell you this. Look our stars now, 792 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: to be clear, the stars we have at our events 793 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 3: are our international, supermodeled, global talents like Ben Ferguson. And 794 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. 795 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 2: What that ten million dollar payday once in my career 796 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 2: like oh yeah, Beyondest say yeah, yeah, I'm all in 797 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 2: for the cause, but I just need ten million to. 798 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: Make it happen. 799 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 3: Okay, Ben, To be clear, we don't pay you ten dollars, 800 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 3: No that's Look, I'm a fiscal conservative. Dammit. If you 801 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 3: want to be there and you believe in saving the country, 802 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 3: stand up and save the country. And if not, get 803 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 3: the hell out. But like, what is it with these 804 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 3: lefties who ironically they want to put socialists in office 805 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 3: who make it impossible for people to earn a living, 806 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 3: and yet they're such capitalists that they're like, show me 807 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: the money to do it. I mean, there is an 808 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 3: intense hypocrisy on this. 809 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: I believe this. 810 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying this because this moment in 811 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: this headline, but I'm being dead serious. This could be 812 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 2: a huge problem for democratic canants moving forward, because when 813 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 2: you see this type of abuse of campaign finance money 814 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: from donors, those same donors, somebody's going to be asking 815 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 2: them for money and four years or less than four 816 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 2: years from now. 817 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 3: And I'm, by the way, the question the next time 818 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 3: Beto O'Rourke, Collin all Red jumps on a stage with 819 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 3: with Willie Nelson, Everyone's going to ask how much you 820 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 3: pay him? 821 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 822 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 2: How much of my money did did I gave you? 823 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 2: Did you just give him for that thirteen minutes of 824 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 2: him singing? It's an question and. 825 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 3: It undermines the entire credibility that I'm here because I 826 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 3: love America so much and you've got to vote for 827 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 3: this candidate. Look, i'll give you an example in the 828 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 3: presidential race. So one of the cooler people that I 829 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 3: got to meet and spend time with was Phil Robertson, 830 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 3: you know from Duck Dynasty. 831 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and here was I mean massive back in 832 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,760 Speaker 2: the day, like unbelievable star. 833 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 3: Huge star. And so so he invited me to Monroe, 834 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 3: Louisiana to come stay at his place. And I went 835 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 3: out duck hunting with Phil, which by the way, ranks 836 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 3: among the coolest things I've ever gotten to do. And 837 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 3: we went to the duck blind. We're there at four 838 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: in the morning. Look, i'd like to hunt in Texas. 839 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 3: I gotta be careful about what I say because there's 840 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 3: so many really serious hunters that I can't overstate. I 841 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 3: go hunting a couple times a year. I enjoy it, 842 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 3: but I'm not someone who lives and breathes it. Phil 843 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 3: in that duck blind, I have never seen a person 844 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 3: who is a better shot with a shotgun. He would 845 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 3: drop birds at a distance that I wouldn't pick up 846 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 3: my gun. They were too far away. I'm like, yeah, 847 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 3: if the duck flies over here, I'll shoot it, but 848 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 3: I can't shoot it way over there. And he would 849 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 3: just boom and then the dogs would swim out and 850 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 3: grab the duck and bring it back. And Phil, I'll 851 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 3: tell you, So I went there and spent the day 852 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 3: when hunting with him. He recorded an ad for our 853 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 3: campaign that we put out. It remains one of my 854 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 3: favorite ads we've ever done. I'm all like wearing camo 855 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 3: grease pain and I'm in the duck blind with Phil. 856 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 3: It was really cool. But Phil, it was during the 857 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 3: Iowa Caucuses and we asked, Phil, will you come to 858 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 3: Iowa and campaign with me? And Phil, for something like 859 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 3: forty years, had not missed a single day of duck season. 860 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 3: He'd been out there every single day for four decades, 861 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 3: and we'd invited him to come. And that morning he 862 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 3: went to the blind at four in the morning and 863 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 3: he's sitting there in the blind, and I guess you know, 864 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 3: it weighed on his heart. I can't do this today. 865 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,240 Speaker 3: I need to go fight to save America. And Phil 866 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 3: left the blind and he went and hopped on a 867 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 3: plane and he flew to Iowa and he did a 868 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 3: big rally with me in Iowa, and I told him then, 869 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, Phil, I am beyond humboldt that you missed 870 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 3: the first day of duck season in forty years to 871 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 3: be here in campaign alongside me. Now, I didn't writehim 872 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 3: a damn check to do that. 873 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 2: I just said, if you gave him Beyonce money, you 874 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: know you're like, oh, and by the way, here's ten 875 00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 2: million dollars. 876 00:48:59,400 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 4: No. 877 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 3: No, I just said, come help save America. And it 878 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 3: meant a lot like for him to miss it. And 879 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 3: that day we were literally touch and go. We didn't 880 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,239 Speaker 3: know who's gonna come, but it meant a big deal 881 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 3: when he came. If you're paying Beyonce ten million dollars, 882 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 3: I mean, my good I mean goodness. Who would she 883 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 3: not endorse for ten million dollars? No, it's a very 884 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 3: fair question. 885 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 2: And it's like, would any of these celebrities have showed 886 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 2: up for her if she wasn't paying them? Not tens 887 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 2: of thousands, not one hundred of thousands, but literally millions 888 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: of dollars. I think it's gonna be a very interesting 889 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 2: talking point in politics moving forward. It's like, is anyone 890 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: that's actually endorsing these democrats or celebrities not on the take. 891 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: Is it all just a massive payday? 892 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 2: They get a chance out every four years, and it's 893 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see how that fold, how that 894 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,919 Speaker 2: is dealt with a couple of years from now, when 895 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 2: Democrats are on stage again with a bunch of famous 896 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 2: people and they're gonna have to now answer questions about it. 897 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really fun. 898 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 2: Don't forget. We do this podcast Monday, Wednesday and Friday. 899 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 2: I on those in between days grab my podcast. 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