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Speaker 1: What's it's the way up at Angela. Yee, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: Jasmin from the Jasmine brand dot Com is here, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and Kirk Franklin and his better half, Tammy Franklin is here.

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Speaker 1: But she's never been here before.

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Speaker 2: You Now, you know, earlier I was well, Claudia was

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Speaker 2: co hosted, but I was almost the only girl.

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Speaker 3: So now you're.

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Speaker 1: Kirk to be the only guy.

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Speaker 4: I'm well, you know, it's I'm a fan of women,

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Speaker 4: so you know, I love Yeah, I love the conversation

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Speaker 4: and and and just the energy of of what women

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Speaker 4: bring to the table. So I'm extremely happy. Remember I

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Speaker 4: was raised by a woman.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm just a super fan. But I'm

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Speaker 4: glad that you got to finally chance to meet, a.

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Speaker 3: Chance to jazz.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, And I'm just excited that you guys have

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Speaker 2: this show called the one that's about to start. Jasmine

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Speaker 2: and I actually watched the first episode, so we got

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Speaker 2: a little sneak pree, what do you think I like it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: she's actually I'm actually what nothing.

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Speaker 5: Oh looking for a man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh like if it's the season two, you're gonna come on, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: But I'm kidding. I'll act like I am, but tell

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Speaker 2: us because it's a little different than other dating shows

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Speaker 2: that we've seen, right, because at first I was like,

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Speaker 2: are the two people, the Bachelor and the Bachelorrett? Are

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Speaker 2: they going to go on a date with each other?

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't happen that way, so or at least

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Speaker 2: not yet. Got the waiting, Yeah, because I don't wait

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Speaker 2: and see. But you're right, Like, we do have a

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Speaker 2: have a cast of African Americans, which also makes it different.

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Speaker 2: And then you have our bachelor and bachelorette who are

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Speaker 2: more accomplished and seasoned in their lives. You know, Ashley,

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Speaker 2: our bachelorette, is thirty seven years.

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Speaker 3: Old, she's a chemist. She's so pretty, isn't she pretty?

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Speaker 2: And then Brent, we got some Peppa Bang and he's

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Speaker 2: you know, a rellatur And so they're a little further

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Speaker 2: you know, people are young, so it gives it, you know,

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Speaker 2: a different thing. These people have lived life, some may

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Speaker 4: I have a question. Now, it's interesting that you said

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Speaker 4: that she was pretty. But when she mentioned the bachelor,

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Speaker 4: you didn't say he was handsome.

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Speaker 6: Is there a reason why, Well, he's not unattractive to me,

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Speaker 6: but I just thought she was gorgeous, and then I think.

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Speaker 5: He's he's handsome, Yeah, handsome.

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Speaker 6: But the thing is also when I think about him,

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Speaker 6: I saw her dates too, so I was comparing him

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Speaker 6: I was thinking some other guys and I know she

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Speaker 2: I think her women looks tend to matter more. It

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Speaker 2: he was very concerned. And you guys pointed this out

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Speaker 2: on the show, with what the women are gonna look.

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Speaker 5: Like, and she didn't. She didn't.

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Speaker 6: That wasn't on her list when you guys talked to her,

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Speaker 4: It's just very interesting though, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to Angela that as far as that that

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Speaker 4: But I would always assume as a man that you

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Speaker 2: Really Well, it's so funny you say that because Jazz

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Speaker 2: does not like good looking men.

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I like medium, So you like someone like kind of

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Speaker 5: Not quirky, but just like I don't want super fine.

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Speaker 1: People think that good looking?

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Speaker 2: Is it because they're problematic their headaches? Yeah, okay, it's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well they've been cute since they were in kindergarten

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Speaker 2: Now. Let me ask you something because I've had the

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Speaker 2: I was like, and I wasn't being My mother did

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if man, I feel like

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Speaker 6: feel like men are more intimidated by a successful woman

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Speaker 2: Really as soon as they would see our skin color

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Speaker 4: Am, yeah, but as a man, I am, and I

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Speaker 4: But also it's I don't know if some man may

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Speaker 1: Kirk, you also have not dated in a long time.

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Speaker 3: You know, you've been out the game.

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Speaker 4: But what now, Now that's true right there, It is

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Speaker 4: the world has changed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've hooked a lot of people up.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have.

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Speaker 3: He loves it.

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Speaker 5: Outside of the show, you hooked a lot of people up.

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Speaker 4: That's how we even.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I say we but me give me me,

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Speaker 2: let me, don't give your glory.

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Speaker 3: He's had three successful marriages and getting ready to have before.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about some people, you know, different celebrity

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Speaker 2: Said, and then second marriages they said last even shorter,

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Speaker 3: It was traumatizing.

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Speaker 4: That that that that our species went through being isolated

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Speaker 2: We two virtual counseling sessions during just because we were

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Speaker 2: responding differently. He's, you know kirch is Kirk is extroverted, extremely,

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Speaker 2: divorce because there's this feeling that I can leave when

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00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't work. Yes, and people feel like that when

440
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 2: you live together, I can just move out because you

441
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 2: can now have I thought at times, and I'm sure

442
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 2: has he thought at times?

443
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,840
Speaker 3: Oh more? Probably more so me. I've thought it more.

444
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, yeah, I thought.

445
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: That's that's real life, that's real, honest, And I'm hoping

446
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: that people of faith have real honest conversations. We need

447
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 2: to people need to hear there are times, Yes, in

448
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 2: twenty seven years, do y'all think I've been like, oh,

449
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 2: I just love him, because we love Jesus, would have

450
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: any problem.

451
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 5: No, like that voice.

452
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,719
Speaker 3: Oh and that's that's the voice too, Jesus.

453
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 4: You know it's real deep Jesus.

454
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 2: No, I'm like, listen, I'm not feeling you right now,

455
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, And you got to go over there for

456
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: a minute.

457
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go over here for a minute. And I

458
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 3: mean that's that's real.

459
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

460
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, now listen.

461
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad that te me here because I've always been like,

462
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: when did we get to meet your wife?

463
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 1: And so I think for people to even see you

464
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,959
Speaker 1: on this show, that's good. Was there any like trepidation

465
00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 1: for you or was it?

466
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was scared. I was scared to death.

467
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 2: We've done, you know, some things together before, kind of

468
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 2: won off things like for the Holidays and then you know,

469
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,959
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Holidays with the Franklins, done stuff like that.

470
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 2: But this, I've never been responsible for a series and

471
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 2: to host and you know all those responsibilities, and so

472
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: I was scared to death. But my we have I

473
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: have a a friend group, they actually family group, and

474
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: I remember them telling me you're gonna do for other

475
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 2: ladies what you do for us all the time. I'm

476
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: kind of like the counselor of my friend group and

477
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: even in my family, and so that that made me go, Okay, well,

478
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 2: I get to do what I'm doing, okay. And then

479
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: the production team was really really good at wanting Kirk

480
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 2: and Tammy to be Kirk and Tammy and whatever.

481
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 3: They thought that was and what we brought to the table.

482
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: And so I remember one of the producers that was

483
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 2: a signed to me, Like the first couple of episodes,

484
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 2: she would come in, you know and give notes. And

485
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 2: then she came to me and she said, I want

486
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 2: you to see I haven't given than you any notes

487
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 2: for for weeks now, so I want you to trust

488
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: your gut and trust your instinct.

489
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: And that's that spoke volumes to me.

490
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I could, Okay, I could trust

491
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: my gut all right, you know. And so it was scary, though, girl,

492
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: how you get your own spinoff?

493
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 3: Now? Baby?

494
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, she got the bug now?

495
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm trying to figure that part out. But

496
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: but yeah, I enjoyed it.

497
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

498
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: Now for the song all things that you also just

499
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: put out, yes, I did.

500
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. First of all, I mean I

501
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 1: think that you're just.

502
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 5: You don't make dudes anymore.

503
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 1: So you've broken records? You know what I'm saying?

504
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: What is it?

505
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: One hundred weeks on Billboard? Like number one? Whatever? Like

506
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean, kurk say it because I don't want to

507
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: just say whatever?

508
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 3: What?

509
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: What is the record that you just broke recently?

510
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred weeks a number one for one hundred

511
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 4: weeks on the song writers chart. I was on the

512
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 4: gospel songwriter STROMP one hundred weeks, but all the other

513
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: mainstream pop arm betrust, no other writer been number with

514
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 4: one hundred weeks period period.

515
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 2: That's a big deal record, right, And I saw you

516
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: said that you wrote this song all things, like you

517
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: woke up and had the idea it.

518
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 4: Won't met by to my sleep. It did, It just

519
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 4: won't met by my sleep. I heard it in my

520
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 4: sleep like God dropped in my sleep, and I ran

521
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: to the piano and just kind of, you know, just

522
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: mess with it and you know, just kind of worked

523
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 4: on it over the next few days.

524
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: Oh, that's beautiful.

525
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: And once I heard that too, it also makes you

526
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: listen to the song differently when you know somebody that story. Yeah,

527
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: when you hear the backstory, I feel like it makes

528
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: you relate to a song in a different type of way.

529
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: Do you guys have dreams at night?

530
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: Like that?

531
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: You remember we had this conversation. Do you have dreams

532
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: and then wake up and remember your dreams sometimes? Or

533
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm going throughout my day and I'm like, something will

534
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: spark my thought process of the dream and I'm like,

535
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: wait a minute, was that real that I really have that?

536
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: But he speaks a lot in his Yes, shops all

537
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: it's funny shops and a.

538
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: Sleep that.

539
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 5: I want, the black ones or the like.

540
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: Give give me, oh, give me three of them, give

541
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: me three them chumpies.

542
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 5: You sleep shop?

543
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 3: He does?

544
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 4: I don't know.

545
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: I do, and he yells it scares me to death.

546
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: What is going on?

547
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: He's hyper. I'm sure everybody sees that already, and so he.

548
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: Mind does not stop.

549
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 5: What do you do to relax?

550
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: Is I enjoy? It's enjoy movies? Okay, I love going

551
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: to the movies because it distracts.

552
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: Me, and then he'd probably be writing movies. While he's

553
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 2: probably right right, he listens to this, he's he he

554
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: hears differently, and so he doesn't quite do it, like

555
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: if we're at the theater, but if we're watching something

556
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: at home.

557
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 3: He's got a joke. I'm like, got just the sound

558
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: like that's okay, I don't want to see it. Yeah,

559
00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: he's got adjust the base and all.

560
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 5: Do you ever come up with song ideas or concepts

561
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 5: or lyrics?

562
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 4: Question?

563
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: I don't come up with the concept.

564
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: But he he he appreciates my my opinion, and so

565
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: he'll come to me and say, hey, what do you

566
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: think of what's another word?

567
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: So I'll say something like that.

568
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 5: Do you get credit?

569
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 6: Do you get so you knowes that's part Well, now

570
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 6: that she's a TV personality, she should also get credit.

571
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 3: Y'all can't thank me for the part of something that

572
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 3: goes oh.

573
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: Okay, because she didn't.

574
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 3: I didn't write, but she gave he has something else, okay,

575
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: all right? And I was like.

576
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I went back and came that she.

577
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 5: Needs credit, she need she needs more than things. Personality.

578
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, she's a she's on your talent, she's all that,

579
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 6: so she needs more than women.

580
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 5: He just he's just taking it.

581
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 4: Take it.

582
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: Is there gonna be a season two for the one.

583
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 3: Know we'll see you know.

584
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 6: Like, let's see I really want to know on the show.

585
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 6: And obviously we only saw the first two episodes. I

586
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 6: really want to know if those two ever going on

587
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 6: a date or something, because.

588
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 5: I know you can't.

589
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 6: But that's the that's the cool part of the show

590
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 6: because I was like when they first met, I was like, oh, maybe.

591
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: Because they are cute together, they are cut together.

592
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: What do you think about friends of the opposite sex

593
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: like new friends? I think that depending on I think

594
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: if you are a married couple, then there should be

595
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: some introduction, like he shouldn't be hanging out with some

596
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: woman that I don't know, and vice versa. But I

597
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 2: think also too that men and women can really learn

598
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: and grow from each other, and oftentimes we over sexualize everything,

599
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: so you assume just because people are hanging out that

600
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: they have to be romantically involved, and that doesn't have

601
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: to be the case.

602
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 3: So I think it's it's cool, right, Kirk.

603
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, it's I think that there

604
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: are well everything she's said is true that it should

605
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 4: be that way. I also think that there may be

606
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: situations where a guy may have a good friendship at

607
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: his job, but they may not have the parties or

608
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 4: the opportunities for for the wife to meet and if

609
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: they are always working together and laughing and talking. And

610
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: it's platonic that it shouldn't be a law that the

611
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 4: wife should always have to rush a person from her

612
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: job home to meet her husband. Now, if they're going

613
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: to dinner and hanging out to you know, something like that,

614
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: then yes, but something at the job, you know, you know,

615
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: you know, like that's the homie and the homis you know.

616
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 4: Is because it shouldn't be a performance based relationship. That

617
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 4: that that that that that you should be free to

618
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 4: meet anybody, but it shouldn't be an authoritarian type of

619
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 4: approach to any Okay, it's because I think that that is.

620
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 4: I think that creates the problem.

621
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: You have to tress casual like hey, how you doingumstantially

622
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to see you.

623
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, well yeah you're like if we yeah, yeah,

624
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 4: something like that. And then also you got to remember

625
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 4: something about men and and I do want to say

626
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 4: this by men in the conscious conversation.

627
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 5: Okay, that's why I said, I want to let.

628
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: Me say this. You got to understand that for men,

629
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: we get along better with women, Okay, that when it

630
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: comes to bonds and friendships, you would be surprised that

631
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: men have stronger conversations and engagement.

632
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes to talk to each other.

633
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 4: It's a pisson contest. Yeah, it's a pisson contest always.

634
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: Sometimes all you want to do is big up and

635
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: it's like, bro, I don't want to do anything with

636
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 4: you to you know what I'm saying this, I don't

637
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: want to get it to always the debates and everything,

638
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: and it can be very difficult.

639
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: I don't trust men who don't have women friends like

640
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: you know how men will be like interesting because that

641
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: means that they can only relate to you as a

642
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: person who is of the opposite sex, which means they

643
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: look at you as I can't be friends with someone.

644
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: I can only.

645
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 4: Relate to women and more intriguing. I find them more.

646
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: We are more engaging.

647
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, like I'm impressed. I'm more impressed

648
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 4: with the way that a woman thinks. It's like, wow,

649
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 4: that's dope, you know what I'm saying. And so in that, yes,

650
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 4: we are created to be natural attracted to each other,

651
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 4: and we will always have to manage those things who

652
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: have to fight to This thing is I tell Tam

653
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 4: all the time, is that one of my mentors told

654
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: me and that he's seventy five years old. Great met

655
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: theologian couple of PhDs and I said, I said, pop,

656
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: I said when does it end? And I say anything,

657
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 4: I just said, pop, windows it end? He said, son,

658
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 4: I can tell you. He said, it ain't seventy three

659
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: And so you know what I'm saying. So you know,

660
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: men will always have to deal with that, you know,

661
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 4: man of sexual visual beings.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I think you have to be careful too,

663
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: Like as you mentioned, the many things that come from

664
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: a woman being careful that you're not if you're in

665
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: a relationship, especially marriage, but you're not getting any emotional

666
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: need met outside of the America.

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Speaker 6: I feel like that, Like that's worse, that's tough right there.

668
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Speaker 2: So to me, that's where you, like y'all need to

669
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: meet or this is crossing a line, right, You're really careful.

670
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Speaker 2: I know you guys have a lot going on, But Tammy,

671
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: I have one more question for you. Since you're here,

672
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: we haven't had a chance to talk to you, so.

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Speaker 1: It's about you.

674
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Speaker 2: But with Kirk, like I know publicly, he's gone through

675
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: a lot of different things throughout the years of being

676
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: as famous as he is and being in the Spilight

677
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 2: like he is how do you support him at home?

678
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: Because I know some of those were difficult times and

679
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: trying times when everybody on social media's talking about him coming.

680
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: To him, like when you did the mixtape.

681
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm having to deal with issues with your

682
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: son family things that became public because you are very

683
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: open and transparent about things, But how was that for

684
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: you at home and you having to deal with like

685
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: that type of heaviness that specifically or just in general,

686
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: because there's been other things that have happened and things

687
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: that he's been really open and honest about. And then

688
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: you know, you're kind of thinking, well, what does Tammy

689
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: think about all this? You know, I think that the

690
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: thing as a wife and also a mother and also

691
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: you know, our child. Although our children are adults now,

692
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: there's still this mama bear in me that I want

693
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: to be able to make sure that everybody's okay.

694
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: And that he's okay. And then it's hard.

695
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 2: It's difficult to watch him go through really hard and

696
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: difficult things, especially because I know what is actually going on.

697
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: And that's the hard thing about especially living in a

698
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: social media world right now that you only get snippets

699
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: and that was only a snippet. Yeah, and you only

700
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: get that piece.

701
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: But I know.

702
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: I know what he's going through privately. I know the

703
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: work that he's doing also too, I know how it's

704
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: affecting our kids, and so for me, quite frankly, I

705
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: think of them first. But I'm realizing that I also

706
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: have to think about myself because my feelings quite often

707
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: are delayed, sometimes two and three days a week later,

708
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I'm like, okay, what is

709
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: this that I'm feeling. I'm like, okay, I've got to

710
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: make sure I'm filling my cup and I'm taking care

711
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: of myself because my natural go to.

712
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Is everybody else.

713
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: I think that's how we respond as women in general,

714
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: and I am often amazed how the delayed reaction of

715
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: how I feel when I go through something, and when

716
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: that happens. I have my own therapist, I have my friends,

717
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 2: I have my mom, and sometimes I'm like, okay, now

718
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: it's me right, so everybody leave me alone, yes, also

719
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: for now, so I can now I feel that you

720
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: got to take care of the whole family, and then

721
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: now I could have a moment to myself and deal

722
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: with my feels. Absolutely what they say when you want airplane,

723
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: you take your first and then yeah and sometimes I

724
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: got I don't necessarily have the time to do that.

725
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 2: I've do that delayed, but I'm learning to do it better. Okay,

726
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: Well I like it. I like seeing it to you

727
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: together on the one. So that actually premiers on the eighteenth, yes,

728
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Speaker 2: May eighteenth nine at nine pm, eight Central on TV one.

729
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Speaker 1: I love that he's just sitting back, likes you take

730
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Speaker 1: over please.

731
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're happy to have both of you,

732
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: and we're.

733
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Speaker 4: Proud of you.

734
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Speaker 3: You're so proud of.

735
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: You, you know, man, you have just just take it in,

736
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: take it in, you know, you know, just just just

737
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: watching you where you've come from, your story, what you've endured,

738
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: and just how you continue to speak for your community,

739
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 4: for women and this entrepreneurship that has just seemed to

740
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: be an eight league just instinctive in you and now

741
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: watching you here and it's so girly and you do

742
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: it with excellence, like you do everything with excellence, from

743
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: the from the coffee shop.

744
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: To yeah yeah on the podcast yeahlies.

745
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, finally finally yeah. So just extremely proud of

746
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: you and just for how you continue to represent, uh,

747
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: just your generation and your generation of women, so it's

748
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: super dope.

749
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much. It was a pleasure to

750
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: have you both up here.

751
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.

752
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 5: Good to meet you.

753
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: To thank you for letting me be on your your

754
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 4: your platform. Sometimes I've seen some things on me on

755
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 4: that and you know, and you really do it really

756
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: really yeah, but you give it, you know, yeah, you know,

757
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: like you for the culture still.

758
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you do a good job for the coach.

759
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: Thank you so really, thank you.

760
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Speaker 1: Congratulations.

761
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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, she's like it's a credit on some songs too.

762
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Speaker 6: It's like perfect, all right, we wait up baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah,