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Speaker 3: preseason well underway, as de Segre just told you, three

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Speaker 3: give us plenty of updates on what he has learned

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Speaker 3: in camp so far. You know, Ephraim, I do want

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Speaker 3: really struck me today, Ephraim, is that I listen. I

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Speaker 3: was thinking today college football, of every major sport, has

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Speaker 3: Like it's unbelievable. So put us out like credit, the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Fans get in, fans get to watch. There's clearly a

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Speaker 3: there's a new Caleb Williams story. There's a new Aaron

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Speaker 5: It's for business.

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Speaker 4: Sure, it's your job. College football. You're trying to hit

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Speaker 4: Full No, I don't think they should do that, really,

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Speaker 4: I don't think. So what are your benefits? What are

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Speaker 4: Fill out your roster? There are no cuts in college?

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Speaker 4: Are with the portal now? But no, I know what

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Speaker 4: you need preseason. You need to see if young players

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Speaker 5: There's no need for that in college.

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Speaker 3: You don't need to know if young players can step

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Speaker 5: No, you'll find out, like you'll find out.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's incredible to me how little again information

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Speaker 3: No start with the bang. We will start with the bank.

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Speaker 3: Three saturdays from now is Week one, two saturdays, so

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Speaker 3: How are you too? Where in the world are you

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Speaker 7: It's it's And by the way, going there from five

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Speaker 7: I know, and you never know which It's hard to

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Speaker 3: and let me ask you this. You know you mentioned

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Speaker 8: But oh, yeah, yeah, this is a great one.

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Speaker 3: Can I follow? I was gonna ask really quick the

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Speaker 7: in his play, not very structured. You know, he needs

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Speaker 7: more structure and that's coming with Ben Johnson and he

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Speaker 7: gets on him. But man, Caleb Williams, I know it

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Speaker 7: wasn't good. He didn't have a good rookie season.

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Speaker 8: But if you.

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Speaker 7: Isolate throws, there are some plays last year we go wow,

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Speaker 7: But he just played with a lack of discipline and

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Speaker 7: that's going to come here. And you know, by the way,

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Speaker 7: they are very talent on offense. The problem is on

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Speaker 7: defense where they've like no pass rush at all.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question about this game we're

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Speaker 4: watching here. Cleveland has six quarterbacks on the roster. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: they're depending on Joe Flacco to start this thing off.

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Speaker 5: Is there a spot, are a way.

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Speaker 4: That Shadua Sanders can supersede that and play himself into

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Speaker 4: an opening day starter.

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Speaker 7: It'll be hard, It'll be hard, but listen if now,

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Speaker 7: depending on how they want to do it, he started

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Speaker 7: tonight at Carolina. He'll be in Philly this week. They

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Speaker 7: have two joint practices, and you know, I'll be at

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Speaker 7: least at one of them, and I'll talk to Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 7: I'll get and I know if Joe flackwef couvert him

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Speaker 7: since seven, so I'll get a lot of pinions on

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Speaker 7: how Shoudur has done. And he's doing well tonight, by

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Speaker 7: the way. Now, Carolina, by the way, played some starters

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Speaker 7: on defense, so that that's I like that. And Shoulder's

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Speaker 7: playing with a bunch of backups, which is not easy

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Speaker 7: to do, by the way, you know, because a lot

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Speaker 7: of these guys won't be on the football team this fall.

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Speaker 7: But I like that he's gotten off to a fairly

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Speaker 7: decent start. You know, could he do it? I don't

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Speaker 7: see Dylan Gabriel being a starter. Cann he Pickett has

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Speaker 7: heard he's not a starter. They got the wrong guy there.

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Speaker 7: What they should have gotten is Tanner McKee, But I

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Speaker 7: don't think he would have done it. Tanner McKee, as

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Speaker 7: you saw last night twenty for twenty five, who's really talented,

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Speaker 7: one of the better backups in the NFL. But Flacco. Look,

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Speaker 7: Flacco put the team on his back two years ago

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Speaker 7: with Cleveland. That was incredible. Last year not so good

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Speaker 7: with Indy. But it depends from how good of a

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Speaker 7: start that they get off to. If Joe starts like

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Speaker 7: I think he will and they're two and five, you

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Speaker 7: have to have yourself what's the point, Like, what are

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Speaker 7: you playing for here?

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Speaker 8: Go to the kid now?

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Speaker 7: One thing I will tell you, if they don't think

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Speaker 7: the kid's ready, they're not going to just throw him

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Speaker 7: in there.

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Speaker 8: That's not going to happen.

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Speaker 7: Kevin's got his extension, but they're going to be smart

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Speaker 7: about now. Jimmy has them. The owner is involved. He's

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Speaker 7: an involved owner. He made the call to go against

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Speaker 7: Kyle Shannan and play. He told Ray Farmer. Then he's hey, Ray,

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Speaker 7: put we want we want Johnny manziel In. And that's

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Speaker 7: not what Kyle Shanahan wanted. So Jimmy Haslm's got to

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Speaker 7: be careful here. He cannot get involved here with what

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Speaker 7: happens with playing decisions.

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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan joining us, host of Inside the Birds at

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Speaker 3: Adam at Kaplan NFL on Twitter. Let me ask you

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Speaker 3: a question now, Adam. It's a little water under the

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Speaker 3: bridge at this point. But I am curious in your reporting,

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Speaker 3: what was the biggest or what was the reason for

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Speaker 3: Shodor's fall? Was it being misevaluated? Was it really bad interviews?

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Speaker 3: We've heard so much yours.

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Speaker 5: Plugged in the truth?

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Speaker 7: Go ahead, Yeah, I mean, I'm just going to tell

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Speaker 7: you what I got. I got three things not prepared

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Speaker 7: for interviews. I would say that like he was asked

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Speaker 7: to do certain things, like what happens is his interviews

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Speaker 7: with quarterbacks. Okay, hey, listen, we're gonna give you these

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Speaker 7: We're going to run through them, and we want you

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Speaker 7: to come. We're going to talk to you later. After

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Speaker 7: you go through the playbook or the film. You're going

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Speaker 7: to look at your this iPad and we're going to

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Speaker 7: come back and bring you back in an hour. And

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Speaker 7: he either didn't study or was indifferent, and that that's

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Speaker 7: just not right, and he seemed unprepared and didn't care.

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Speaker 7: And that was that was true, that that I talked

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Speaker 7: to the right people that that.

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Speaker 8: This isn't made up. I don't do that stuff.

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Speaker 7: And I when when the stuff started to come out

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Speaker 7: before the draft, I was like, Wow, why is this

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Speaker 7: coming out? Like what's how much is the truth? And

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Speaker 7: I just was surprised, Uh, people I really trust. Uh.

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Speaker 7: The quarterback coach I've known forever said he was very

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Speaker 7: disappointed because he liked his tape.

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Speaker 8: He said off tape, he gave him a third round grade.

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Speaker 7: And then when they got him in their building, uh

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Speaker 7: or whoever the interviewed, I don't know if it was

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Speaker 7: a combine in their building. Just was not impressed with

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Speaker 7: and very disappointed with his attitude. So that that stuff's real.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, Wow, that's uh, it is.

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Speaker 8: What it is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But you know I was telling earlier, I was

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Speaker 4: saying that all of that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: Now it's gone.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a profered but it does matter in this case.

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Speaker 7: If he acts the same way from as he did

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Speaker 7: before the draft, then it matters. If it's he takes

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Speaker 7: it as a new beginning, that's behind me. I'm a baller,

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna prepare. I'm a quarterback. He takes it the

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Speaker 7: right way, then he's got a chance because he's a

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Speaker 7: very talented quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I mean, that's what I mean by

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, because now you'll be graded on what

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Speaker 4: you do on the.

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Speaker 5: Field, not a preseason in the classroom.

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Speaker 4: In the classroom, right, yeah, Well you're not gonna get

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Speaker 4: on the field if you don't do it in the classroom.

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Speaker 8: They just knows as alignment that that ain't gonna work.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not. We're not about to go out there,

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Speaker 5: just roll the dice.

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Speaker 4: If you can't get plays together in the classroom, you

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Speaker 4: won't be playing. And the fact that he is starting

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Speaker 4: today bodes well that he has a firm grasp and

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Speaker 4: understanding of of the playbook. He's looked well, like you said,

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Speaker 4: eleven for eighteen, one hundred and three yards, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: four rushes and twenty yards. So for me, all of

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Speaker 4: the speeding tickets, of the batched interviews, the dropping in

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Speaker 4: the draft, it doesn't matter. What matters now is what

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Speaker 4: you put on tape. If you come out here and

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Speaker 4: you play well, you command the team, you lead the team.

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Speaker 4: All of that's forgotten because now when ro football is played,

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Speaker 4: what you did to get here is it is?

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Speaker 5: What it is? What are you going to do to

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Speaker 5: stay here? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I would agree. Now we'll see how he handles himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I'll find out what the tape looked like, because you know,

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Speaker 7: we're only seeing numbers here. I need to get a

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Speaker 7: better grasp of what it really looked like.

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Speaker 4: But I was looking good. He missed some open throws,

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Speaker 4: but he scrambled. He hasn't looked rattled. He's you know,

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Speaker 4: not watching the plays at the line of scrimmage, no fumble, snaps,

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Speaker 4: all the roads. Yeah, so you know, for me, just

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Speaker 4: watching the first half, and I'm not sure he'll play

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Speaker 4: in the second half. It's it's I'm I'm pleased with

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Speaker 4: what with with what he did.

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Speaker 7: Because by the way, and they don't have a future quarterback,

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Speaker 7: so this, this is very important.

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Speaker 5: They have no idea. We said that they don't have

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Speaker 5: a quarterback.

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Speaker 8: They have no idea.

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Speaker 5: They had six on the roster and no starting quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Watson the forest transaction in NFL history, right, that's and

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Speaker 7: I mean it is, it's it's the worst move I've seen.

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Speaker 7: And it's funny thing is he would have been an Eagle.

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Speaker 7: I feel strongly had he wanted to be an Eagle.

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Speaker 7: But that's another that's a that's a thirty for thirty.

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Speaker 7: They were the Eagles pursued. I mean, they were really

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Speaker 7: in again and trying to get Watson, but you know,

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Speaker 7: just they didn't go far enough. But Cleveland now has

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Speaker 7: got to figure it out. But you know, they have

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Speaker 7: an interesting roster. That they have a good roster. People

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Speaker 7: don't realize that because they were so bad last season.

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Speaker 7: But it's been about the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan, host of Inside the Birds Are Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: NFL insider, Adam, we got to let you go real

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Speaker 3: quick where you headed to this week. I know you

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Speaker 3: said eight would you say eight teams?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if it all works out and weather, you know,

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Speaker 7: weather and whatever the case may be. But I got

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Speaker 7: a joint. I got a night practice in Philly at

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Speaker 7: their stadium. They have one practice where the fans get

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Speaker 7: to go and they usually get forty or fifty thousand.

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Speaker 7: So that's at the Lincoln Financial Stadium Sunday night. And

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Speaker 7: then if all goes to all Washington and the Giants

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Speaker 7: Jets joint, Brown's Eagles joint, Bucks Steelers joint. And then

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Speaker 7: the following week. See I go week by week. So

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Speaker 7: that's what I got for next week?

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Speaker 5: Are you I drive?

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Speaker 8: This is a drive.

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Speaker 7: It's funny. I live in the Philly area, so this

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Speaker 7: is a driving trip. And then the last the eighteenth

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Speaker 7: or the twenty second, I'm hoping to fly out west

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Speaker 7: if all works out, I I do. I'm not going

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Speaker 7: to I'm not going to Henders. I'm not going to

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Speaker 7: Nevada because I've refused to be in that weather.

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Speaker 3: But you did thirty straight days of one hundred degrees

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Speaker 3: in Houston.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, but I'd rather be You know where

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Speaker 7: I'd like to go is La. I'd see the Rams

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Speaker 7: and Elsagundo.

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Speaker 3: With the Choges, the Jetan Adam kaplanan, we appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your time, and again follow Adam on

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Speaker 3: Twitter at Kaplan NFL and of course the hosted the

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Speaker 3: Inside the Birds podcast.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Adam, appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: That was Adam Kaplan, host of Inside the Birds and

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Speaker 3: our Fox Sports Radio NFL insider. Let's not waste any

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Speaker 3: more time. News Desk Steve Desager, what is trending. We

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Speaker 3: got three NFL exhibitions to update. Cleveland as the halftime

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Speaker 3: lead fourteen to seven at Carolina. Shador Sanders the rookie

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Speaker 3: starting tonight, eleven of eighteen, one hundred three yards, two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: One of those was a short TD right after Cleveland

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Speaker 3: recovered a muff punt. It was Bryce Young with a

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Speaker 3: TD pass for the Panther scoring New England up twenty

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Speaker 3: to three on Washington.

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Speaker 9: In the second quarter. The Patriots rookie Trevion Henderson returned

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Speaker 9: the opening kickoff one hundred yards for a touchdown. Drake

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Speaker 9: May did have a fumble as he was sacked. He

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Speaker 9: only has twelve yards passing in the first half, but

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Speaker 9: he does have a five yard touchdown run for the

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Speaker 9: Pats halftime. At Atlanta, it's ten to seven Falcons over

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Speaker 9: Detroit Falcons with a fifty seven yard field goal and

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Speaker 9: late first half and Easton Stick touchdown pass Stick the

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Speaker 9: former Charger preseason quarterback fifteen of eighteen through the air

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Speaker 9: one hundred and forty nine yards and the TD to

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Speaker 9: Major League Baseball. Houston still leads two nothing at the

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Speaker 9: Yankees in the bottom of the fifth on a two

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Speaker 9: run homer in the first from Jose Altuve Orioles over

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Speaker 9: the A's three to one bottom of the six. The

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Speaker 9: Angels have taken the lead at Detroit four to three,

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Speaker 9: top of the six, getting back to back homers off

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Speaker 9: Trek Scooble, who's out after allowing the four runs in

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Speaker 9: four and two third innings. Marlins lead five nothing at

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Speaker 9: the Braves bottom of the six. Reds a two to

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Speaker 9: one leader at Pittsburgh bottom of the seventh. It's the

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Speaker 9: Guardian seven to one at the White Sox top of

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Speaker 9: tied one to one in the second. Twins lead the

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Speaker 9: Royals three to one in the second. The Mets are

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Speaker 9: New York up in the third quarter fifty two thirty

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Speaker 9: Dustin Johnson tied for the livegolf lead in Chicago with

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Speaker 3: should be. Three NFL preseason games currently going on. Cleveland

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Speaker 3: up fourteen to seven. Uh here, yeah, that's darn right,

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Speaker 3: Alex Tycher to you, there's a new king of Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's a new chosen one in Cleveland. Schador

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Speaker 3: Sanders two touchdown passes in the first half for the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. We'll talk about that game at about nine

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Speaker 3: o'clock Eastern time. Also, New England up seventeen. Nothing on

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Speaker 3: the Washington Commanders. Let me ask you this, Drake May

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Speaker 3: actually getting a few series for the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Are you at all surprised? I mean, he's clearly the

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Speaker 3: starter year two. It is a new coaching staff under

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Speaker 3: Mike Vrabel. Are you at all surprised that Drake May

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Speaker 3: was New England's starter here in their preseason opener.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 4: Mike wants to see for himself what he has and

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Speaker 4: what he needs to work on. And that's understandable. You

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Speaker 4: coming in, you're taking over a program, Your expectations are

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Speaker 4: extremely high. We know that, So what do you bringing

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Speaker 4: to this, what is this guy?

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Speaker 5: What do I have? What did I inherit?

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Speaker 4: And so you just want to see him in action,

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Speaker 4: so you can get to feel yourself as a coach

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Speaker 4: of of what this feels like.

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Speaker 5: And I understand that, I get that.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of his year one performance, Drake May,

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Speaker 3: who of course drafted in that famous class with Jydon

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Speaker 3: Daniels and all those guys. Sixty seven percent completion percentage,

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Speaker 3: fifteen touchdowns, ten interceptions on a team that was very

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Speaker 3: good without very much help around.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was silient. I thought he did a

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Speaker 5: good job. I thought he.

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Speaker 4: Stepped into an organization and was kind of in disarray,

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Speaker 4: and they were still in disarray last year. Would have

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Speaker 4: coached it didn't last very long. And so now we

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Speaker 4: know the stability and the force that is Mike Rabel,

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Speaker 4: and I think this would be great for Drake May

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Speaker 4: coming in and having a real offensive coordinator and just

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Speaker 4: getting back to the Patriots way right, No more experiment,

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Speaker 4: Let's just get back to football and and instilling some

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Speaker 4: of the things that uh, you know, McDaniel's and Vraibel

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Speaker 4: grew up under Belichick.

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Speaker 3: With I'll say this, we're gonna lead next hour with

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Speaker 3: Shdor Sanders, but he is back in to start the

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Speaker 3: third quarter.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 3: You could say whatever you want about whatever. They are

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Speaker 3: giving him a chance to show what he is capable

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Speaker 3: of doing.

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Speaker 5: They don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They need to know.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, they really are, Like if Kenny is

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Speaker 4: not healthy, if you know, of course Dashaun is off

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Speaker 4: the table. They know Joe Flacco, so they're really trying

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Speaker 4: to figure out what these three young players. Who's gonna

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Speaker 4: be the guy who can we go to and who's

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Speaker 4: gonna warrant a roster spot. The more experience that you

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Speaker 4: can get, the better you'll be in the regular season.

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Speaker 4: More experiencing pre season, the better you be in regular season.

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Speaker 4: I don't care who you going against, choose ones, whatever,

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: So you're impressed. I'm impressed. We do have a listener

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Speaker 3: who I have a feeling might not be. Rob Parker

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Speaker 3: has texted Alex tyser W about Shador Sanders' debut. Alex Teischer,

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Speaker 3: please read this is by the way, this is live

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Speaker 3: on air, and I have not heard this.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Go ahead.

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Speaker 10: So Rob Parker apparently doesn't know he's not on the

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Speaker 10: clock is texting our group chat religiously seeing that he

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Speaker 10: is a Magic City guy. I don't know why he's

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Speaker 10: doing this. So he says, and I quote, apparently Sanders

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Speaker 10: just won the super Bowl. Too much made out of

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Speaker 10: a first preseason game. I refuse to be a part

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Speaker 10: of it. Hashtag Tim Tebow two point zero. I mean

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Speaker 10: Tim Tebow won games in the regular season. Winn was

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Speaker 10: won game. What are we talking about?

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Speaker 3: So I'm saying, yeah, there's probably a good example. There's

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Speaker 3: probably a lot of good examples of quarterbacks that looked

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Speaker 3: great in the preseason that never amounted to much. I

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Speaker 3: don't think Tim Tebow is one of them. But but yeah,

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Speaker 3: where you say something, Ian.

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Speaker 11: I'm just gonna say, I remember Daniel Jones, Like I

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Speaker 11: remember his first preseason game and being really impressed by it,

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Speaker 11: and then he just didn't do anything, you know, in

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Speaker 11: the regular season. That was so high point. That was

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Speaker 11: yeah the high point.

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Speaker 4: Well, for a team that doesn't have a quarterback and

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Speaker 4: hasn't had a quarterback since Bernie Cozar, they gotta be thrilled. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this is a viable option. Yep, let's see if this

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Speaker 4: thing now what they need to do is nurture this

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Speaker 4: and cultivate it and really pour into it to help

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Speaker 4: him maximize his abilities. Uh, and what he can do

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Speaker 4: for this team. If they don't do that, then you know,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if they can. They're like we've

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Speaker 4: seen them, Yeah, they've and they gave up on Baker

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Speaker 4: Mayfield and he's scorching the earth right now in Tampa.

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Speaker 4: So I just and I don't know, Man, it is

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Speaker 4: the Browns.

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Speaker 3: It is the Browns. So I'll say this, you know,

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Speaker 3: if it somehow works out, if he becomes a serviceable

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Speaker 3: started quarterback, goes down as like one of the great

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Speaker 3: draft picks of all time. Now, it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 3: see who takes credit for the draft pick, because of

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Speaker 3: course Jimmy has them says it wasn't him. But we've

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Speaker 3: all seen the video of the draft room.

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't any of the coaches. I can tell

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Speaker 5: you that well.

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Speaker 3: And I was gonna say they also took Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 3: two rounds before. So if they were that fired up

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Speaker 3: about Shador easily was available in the first round, the

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Speaker 3: second round, the third round, and the fourth round. Shador

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Speaker 3: sanders two touchdown passes in the first half. Third quarter

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Speaker 3: has just started in Carolina. This is the odd couple

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Speaker 3: Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington. We'll come back, We'll continue

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Speaker 3: the Shadoor conversation his debut. What does it mean? What

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Speaker 3: does it not mean? Fox Sports Radio,