WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: End Is Near

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<v Speaker 1>Happy holidays everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth podcast. So the end is near. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as we look back at perhaps the most unbelievable finish

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<v Speaker 1>in the eight hundred twenty two regular season or postseason

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<v Speaker 1>games the Cincinnati Bengals have ever played. I am dead serious.

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<v Speaker 1>They scored two touchdowns and added two two point conversions

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<v Speaker 1>in the final twenty nine seconds of regulation to four's

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<v Speaker 1>overtime before eventually losing to the Miami Dolphins thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, a loss that gives the Bengals the number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick in next year's draft. Coming up, you'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>radio replays, locker room comments from players and coaches, and

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Lapham will join me for postgame analysis. Finally, in

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<v Speaker 1>this week's fun Facts Conversation, we'll meet the person under

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<v Speaker 1>the pads is. I'll talk to a big man with

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<v Speaker 1>a big personality, rookie offensive lineman Fred Johnson. All of

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<v Speaker 1>that is straight ahead, But first, here's a quick reminder

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<v Speaker 1>that you can have the latest edition of this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest thing since loyal Fans. It's been a tough

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<v Speaker 1>year for Bengals fans, and I appreciate each and every

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<v Speaker 1>one of you who listens to this podcast, goes to

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<v Speaker 1>games at Paul Brown Stadium, attends our weekly radio shows,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of all, keeps the faith. We know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not always easy, so thank you for hanging in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and here's hoping that better days are just around the corner. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to Sunday's game. After an o and seven start,

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<v Speaker 1>the Miami Dolphins have gone four and four since, led

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<v Speaker 1>by thirty seven year old quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick and a

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<v Speaker 1>coaching staff that's not afraid to dip into its bag

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<v Speaker 1>of tricks. High formation backfield, Fitzpatrick fakes a handoff, he throws, it,

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<v Speaker 1>is caught and then dropped. It's a touchdown. They're saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the big lineman who caught the football, Christian Wilkins,

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<v Speaker 1>defensive tackle out of Clemson, first round draft pick this year,

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<v Speaker 1>had it long enough for the touchdown to count. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins first drive ended with a t d pass

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<v Speaker 1>to a defensive lineman. Their second drive featured more razzle

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<v Speaker 1>dazzle here's a run. Now, it's a pitch back to

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<v Speaker 1>Fitzpatrick and he flings it high and deep down the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the field for Parker. He makes the catch

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<v Speaker 1>at the ten and he'll be brought down around the

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<v Speaker 1>six yard line by Will Jackson. The fleet flicker and

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<v Speaker 1>the flea flicker works. It certainly did. It led to

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<v Speaker 1>a seven yard touchdown pass to Davante Parker that gave

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<v Speaker 1>Miami a fourteen nothing lead ten minutes into the game.

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<v Speaker 1>A Randy Bullock field goal put the Bengals on the

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<v Speaker 1>score board in the second quarter before the Dolphins quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>struck again. Fitzpatrick takes the snap, he's looking right now,

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<v Speaker 1>scans over the middle of the field, scrambles right, throws

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<v Speaker 1>it for the end zone. It is caught Gassicki for

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown. Man. That's a broken coverage and they just

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<v Speaker 1>totally lose track of Gassicki. I mean, there is nobody

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<v Speaker 1>in the deep cardron of the football field and Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Fitzpatrick hits this big tight end. Fitzpatrick passed for two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty two yards in the first half. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals had five three and outs and went oh

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<v Speaker 1>for seven on third down conversions before ending the half

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<v Speaker 1>on a positive note. Harris ready to snap it back.

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<v Speaker 1>He fires it back, Hubert puts it down. Bullock launches

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<v Speaker 1>the kid. It is straight enough, it is good, a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise record fifty seven yard field goal by Randy Bullock.

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<v Speaker 1>It leaves two seconds on the clock and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>trail twenty one to six. The Bengals opened the second

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<v Speaker 1>half with another three and out, and when the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>answered with an eighty seven yard drive, it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>the route was on empty backfield. Five wide, second and

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<v Speaker 1>fourth from the Bengals thirteen. Fitzpatrick, looking for his fourth

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown pass, scrambling around behind the line, throws into the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the end zone, caught by Gasicki for another

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<v Speaker 1>Miami touchdown. Dar Ques Denard was there, but Kisiki's bigger, stronger,

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<v Speaker 1>and on that play better watched him out. It was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight to six, and considering the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals had not scored a second half touchdown in their

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<v Speaker 1>previous seven games, a comeback didn't seem likely. The first

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<v Speaker 1>thing the Bengals had to do was end that streak

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<v Speaker 1>of forty two second half possessions without a td going

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<v Speaker 1>back to October twentieth three receivers left, one right. Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>back to throw. He's going to fire toward the left

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<v Speaker 1>side line. If he makes the catch, sprinting down the

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<v Speaker 1>side line, lunches toward the pylon. Yes, touchdown Bengals. The

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<v Speaker 1>drought ends on a fourth down touchdown pass to Tyler Boyd,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is two hundred a d Andy Dalton has

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<v Speaker 1>just become the first quarterback in history to throw two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred touchdown passes in a Bengals uniform. A two point

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<v Speaker 1>conversion attempt failed, and the Bengals went to the fourth

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<v Speaker 1>quarter trailing twenty eight to twelve with eleven minutes left

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<v Speaker 1>in regulation. A touchdown run by Miles Gaskin put the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins up by twenty three in the fourth quarter. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have never won a game after trailing by more

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<v Speaker 1>than twenty one, but in this game, they kept battling back.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton drops back to throw throws over the middle. It

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<v Speaker 1>is caught for a touchdown c Juzama running the skinny post.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball thrown with perfect timing by Andy Dalton, and

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<v Speaker 1>c ju Zama hauls in his first touchdown catch of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Yeah. He dropped one that could have been

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown. Catch that one he snagged. The deficit was

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen with six eleven to go. The Dolphins answered with

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<v Speaker 1>a ten play drive that took three minutes off the

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<v Speaker 1>clock and ended it with a forty seven yard field

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<v Speaker 1>goal attempt that could have just about sealed the victory. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Sanders kick was wide left and the Bengals still

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance. Right C. J Uzama, what we need

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<v Speaker 1>to do is go down, score, get a two point version,

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<v Speaker 1>get all inside kick, and score again. We had to

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<v Speaker 1>score as fast as possible in this drive because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously we have plays in certain situations to to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>push the ball down the field. But I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>the first drive was the most important when they missed

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<v Speaker 1>the field goal, because we wanted to get and keep

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<v Speaker 1>as much time on the clock as possible. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>were out of timeouts and while they did score, they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't able to leave much time on the clock. Two

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<v Speaker 1>receivers right, one left, Uzamin a three point stance to

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<v Speaker 1>the right. He's going to go into the end zone

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<v Speaker 1>for a pass. Here's a slam. It is caught by

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd and he's into the end zone for a Bengals touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>He got the ball across the plane. You only need

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<v Speaker 1>the tiniest portion of the football to go over the

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<v Speaker 1>front edge of the white stripe. That's all it takes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's all Tyler Boyd did for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals touchdown. The Bengals were down by ten with only

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine seconds to go. Dalton catches the shotgun snap

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<v Speaker 1>looking for Eyffornios. It is caught for a two point conversion,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals have a slim hope, just a glimmer

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<v Speaker 1>of hope. Their hope depended on recovering an on side kick.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals hadn't done that in their previous eight attempts

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<v Speaker 1>over a span of one hundred forty nine games. Here

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<v Speaker 1>comes the on side kick. It bounces way up in

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<v Speaker 1>the battles have it. The Bengals recover at the forty

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<v Speaker 1>six as Jordan Evans comes away with the ricochet. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the first successful on side kick that the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>have pulled off in nine years, and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>puncher's chance with twenty nine seconds to go. Stanley Morgan

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<v Speaker 1>knocked it backward to Jordan Evans, who discussed his recovery. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just Bob popped out right to me and I'll secured it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you have the team opportunity to go

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<v Speaker 1>down there, and as I did, they score first onside

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<v Speaker 1>kick the Bengals have pulled off since twenty ten. On

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<v Speaker 1>that play, are you specifically looking for a bounce back?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you trying to be a few yards kind of

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<v Speaker 1>behind where the ball is? I mean it's just onside kick,

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<v Speaker 1>so everyone's looking for the ball. The Bengals had it

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<v Speaker 1>at their own forty six with twenty eight seconds left.

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<v Speaker 1>A twenty nine yard passed to Tyler Boyd put them

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<v Speaker 1>at the Dolphins twenty five before a spike stopped the clock.

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<v Speaker 1>With four seconds to go, enough time for a hail Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>Four seconds to go, the Bengals are twenty five yards away.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dolphins put eight defenders in the end zone. Dalton,

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<v Speaker 1>back to throw, has time, looking throws towards the end

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<v Speaker 1>zone into a clock is caught on it by Tyler Eiffert.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe what I have just seen. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>are a two point conversion away from potentially forcing overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>As Dalton's twenty five yard touchdown pass is caught by

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<v Speaker 1>a leaping Tyler Eiffert. Bengals fans heads are about to explode.

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<v Speaker 1>They still got to convert on the two point conversion.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball was placed at the two yard line with

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<v Speaker 1>no time on the clock. Dalton looking to throw, looking

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<v Speaker 1>scrambling to the right. He could run for two. He's

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<v Speaker 1>charging toward the down. He's in. He has tied the

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<v Speaker 1>game at thirty five, and this game is going to overtime.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's c j Uzama. We were just riding a wave

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<v Speaker 1>and it felt incredible. Um. You know, obviously it's to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pull something like that off. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, you know you gotta quick flip a

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<v Speaker 1>quick switch. Said okay, well we still have over time. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but no doubt. I mean when that happened, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was electric on the sideline and UM, in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind and I'm sure a lot of the people's minds,

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<v Speaker 1>we were, um, we we're gonna go down to win.

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<v Speaker 1>But fittingly this season, that's not how it turned out.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals had two possessions in overtime and we're not

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<v Speaker 1>able to get a single first down on the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>third drive inot A twenty eight yard pass from Fitzpatrick

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<v Speaker 1>to Isaiah Ford put Miami in field goal range from

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<v Speaker 1>the left hash a thirty seven yard try to win

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<v Speaker 1>the game in overtime for Miami. Sanders is ready. The snap,

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<v Speaker 1>the put down, the swing of the leg, the kick

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<v Speaker 1>is up. It's good. It is good. The Dolphins win

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bengals have the first pick in next year's draft.

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<v Speaker 1>And as the season has gone mentioned it earlier, the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of doing just enough to win, do just enough

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<v Speaker 1>to lose. The impact of this week's loss next year's

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<v Speaker 1>draft was impossible to ignore. The Bengals can now try

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<v Speaker 1>to beat the Browns next week without anybody having to

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<v Speaker 1>worry that it could cost them the number one pick.

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<v Speaker 1>As a result, many Bengals fans weren't exactly heartbroken after

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<v Speaker 1>the loss in Miami, but for players like u Zamba,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't cause for celebration. I love our fans, I

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<v Speaker 1>respect them, but respectfully, like, I don't really care about

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. I'm here to win, and we're here

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<v Speaker 1>to win, and we want to win for these coaches

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<v Speaker 1>who want to win, for the for the brothers that

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<v Speaker 1>have put the you know, their blood sweat and tears

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<v Speaker 1>into um being in this position. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're giving um God given abilities for a reason, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have to use them. We're not just gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and lay an egg or lay down or

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. You know, We're here to compete, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're trying to show UM. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all that outside noise is outside noise. And UM, I

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<v Speaker 1>respect the heck out of every single person and here

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<v Speaker 1>who play their hearts up. The final score thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five is the Bengal fell to one and fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's effort. I had an incredible comeback that came up short.

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<v Speaker 1>We scored six points in the first half, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just felt like we couldn't do anything. And uh, you know, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>just keep fighting. You know, that's all you can really

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<v Speaker 1>ask for. No One, no one gave up and laid down.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously we'd rather win the game than say we

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<v Speaker 1>tried hard. But um, you know, at least at least

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<v Speaker 1>we got to fight. We got that, We got that

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<v Speaker 1>part down. How about you with that hill? Mary Man

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<v Speaker 1>went up over everybody. Yeah, I mean it just it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those plays that you you practice all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but very rarely does it actually play out just because

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<v Speaker 1>the odds are against you, but it never happens. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you go out there and you do your best and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna try to make it happen, but so many

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<v Speaker 1>things have to go right, and just it just sucks

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<v Speaker 1>for us not to come all the way back and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not get it done in the end. Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>through a career high fifty six passes, completing thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>for three hundred ninety six yards, four touchdowns and no picks.

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<v Speaker 1>After the game, I spoke to the guy who snapped

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<v Speaker 1>him the football in the locker room with Bengal center

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<v Speaker 1>Trey Hopkins. Was an unbelievable finish down by twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter. You foight back and got it

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<v Speaker 1>to ot what was going through your mind? Um? You know, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta give a big shout out to Andy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Andy's since, I mean since I've been the part of

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<v Speaker 1>this offense, and he's always been the heart. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like when when Tom's a going tough and today was

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<v Speaker 1>no exception, that he never stopped believing, always encourage and

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<v Speaker 1>always letting us know as long as we have Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>we have we have a shot. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>He told us at half time, still wasn't going right,

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<v Speaker 1>told us in the third quarters, things still ring going right.

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<v Speaker 1>Even to the fourth quarter, he's still saying the same things.

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<v Speaker 1>Just believably believe. And then he went out there and

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<v Speaker 1>made stuff happening. After they missed the field goal when

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<v Speaker 1>they're up by sixteen. I kind of and through what

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<v Speaker 1>was required gott to score two touchdowns, two two point conversions,

0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.480
<v Speaker 1>requiring onside kick. I listed it without even really thinking

0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it could happen. Are you doing the same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>math in your head? Yeah? Yeah, Um, I think I

0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.040
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of guys are. Um. But you just

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at the time host time, you got what

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly happen, what we need to happen. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you when you list things like that, it kind of

0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:23.360
<v Speaker 1>looks like, I mean, you got your back up in

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<v Speaker 1>at the wall. It's not really doesn't look very probable,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean you got you got extraordinary people in here,

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<v Speaker 1>good extraordinary things done, and I'm very proud of The

0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.720
<v Speaker 1>outcome is obviously not what you wanted. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>walk out of here feeling at least somewhat good about

0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.040
<v Speaker 1>the comeback? Oh yeah, feel you feel good about the combat? Um, definitely,

0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it was exciting. Um. Like I said, Andy brought us

0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.160
<v Speaker 1>a spark that we definitely needed. But then without even

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<v Speaker 1>watching the film, then you think about, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>have three quarters, you know, three quarters, Well, we just

0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.640
<v Speaker 1>were not very productive. We're not very good on offense.

0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.040
<v Speaker 1>That put us in that position. Um. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good and bad, but you can't you can't be unrealistic

0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and get too excited about the end when you had

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<v Speaker 1>the whole game to be productive and the opportunity. You

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<v Speaker 1>did have the ball in overtime a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>and just couldn't get it gone exactly exactly. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's things to clean up. Yeah, that was that was

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<v Speaker 1>a bright spot. It was exciting, but I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of room for improvement. Got a game left,

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<v Speaker 1>it's at home, it's against AFC North Arrival. A chance

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<v Speaker 1>to finish on a positive note. Yeah for sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we owe those guy us um outside our house,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's the last shot. It's the last shot

0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of the twenty nineteen Bengals going out and playing together.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been through a lot this season. I mean each

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<v Speaker 1>and every guy, and in this building, on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster as as it's moved throughout the season.

0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it fought through something personally and on the team,

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<v Speaker 1>and we owe it to each other to go out

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<v Speaker 1>with the bang and get it and get it up. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>time to hear from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent

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<v Speaker 1>about four minutes with Lap after the game. Coach, um, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've seen sixteen points scored in thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three seconds any any level of football. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I've seen you. Have you experienced anything like

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<v Speaker 1>that before, not that I can think of. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>resilient group, you know, And it speaks to the character

0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:09.640
<v Speaker 1>we have in the locker room there. Here we are

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<v Speaker 1>in week sixteen. There's not a lot to play for

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<v Speaker 1>other than pride and for each other. And to be

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<v Speaker 1>down twenty three points, there was six minutes left to

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<v Speaker 1>fight back, and all three phases speak speaks to what

0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:21.400
<v Speaker 1>we know, what what kind of character we got in

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<v Speaker 1>this locker room. When you think of the laundry list

0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of things that had to go right, I mean special teams, defense,

0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean offense, and Andy. Andy ends up thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty six three hundred ninety six yards, four touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>no interceptions, has the two point conversion. Tyler Boyd nine catches,

0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.800
<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty yards a couple of touchdowns. Effort

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<v Speaker 1>makes the you know, the spectacular play on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the hill, Mar, I mean, everybody stepped up, they did,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it shoot, we had guys dropping like flies,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so starters are having to playing on

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<v Speaker 1>special teams, guys are having to play more reps on offense.

0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.080
<v Speaker 1>And I thought they were gonna play, and um, I

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<v Speaker 1>know they were retired. I know they were. They were

0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.640
<v Speaker 1>hurt when died whatever it is, and and they gave

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<v Speaker 1>us everything in the head. You know, you're talking about

0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.040
<v Speaker 1>two resilient guys at the quarterback position, Ryan Fitzpatrick and

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton. There's more similarities and differences between those guys,

0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.760
<v Speaker 1>isn't there. Yeah. They're competitive, they're great leaders for their team.

0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.919
<v Speaker 1>They're like coaches out there playing a position. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him check in a million times and he

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<v Speaker 1>checked a bunch. So two guys that you had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of confidence in at the quarterback position. So I know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a big lesson to be learned is and I've

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<v Speaker 1>said this to a couple of players, Yogi Barris said

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<v Speaker 1>it and over till it's over. I mean, is that

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing to take out of this football game?

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<v Speaker 1>At some point this is going to serve us well

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. You know that we know that we

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<v Speaker 1>can fight back from anything as long as we believe

0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and just do your job, you know. I think in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half, guys were really pressed and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make plays. And once we settled down and guys just

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<v Speaker 1>did their job, let the plays come to them, the

0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.600
<v Speaker 1>game slowed down and we were able to get back

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<v Speaker 1>in it. But you know, we just got to learn

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<v Speaker 1>from those lessons. Yeah, like you said, in the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was. It was in the first half

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<v Speaker 1>you had five drives that we're three and out drives.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in the second half, particularly down the strets

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter. I mean, Ryan Fitzpatrick had one

0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty yards passing in the first quarter and

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<v Speaker 1>he just try he had two fifty at a half

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<v Speaker 1>and his numbers were just the opposite. I mean, So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's one of those dynamics where guys feed

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<v Speaker 1>off each other. Once somebody makes a place that I

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<v Speaker 1>can do the same thing. It's as simple as they were.

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<v Speaker 1>They were capitalized all the one on one opportunities they

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<v Speaker 1>had in the first half, and we were not. We

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<v Speaker 1>were we were losing them all on offense and defense.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you're right. They started fast, they started hot,

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<v Speaker 1>They punched us to the mouth, and we didn't respond

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<v Speaker 1>well early on, but our guys settled in and showed

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<v Speaker 1>who they really are. What did you say to the

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<v Speaker 1>guys at halftime in a situation like that, and I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we couldn't really hear what you you were saying. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we could hear you were animated after the game in

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<v Speaker 1>the lockerman. I don't expect you to tell us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in how stuff, what you're talking to your team about.

0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.879
<v Speaker 1>But overall, if you could deliver what kind of message

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<v Speaker 1>you were given it at halftime and after the game,

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<v Speaker 1>just as I said, you know, we were losing the

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<v Speaker 1>one on once and we just had to slow down,

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<v Speaker 1>be disciplined with your technique and let let the plays

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<v Speaker 1>come to you, Let the action come to you. Stop

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<v Speaker 1>pressing so hard trying to make plays and just use

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<v Speaker 1>your technique. They're playing man coverage on defense, the jam

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<v Speaker 1>front like, we know what they're doing. We know we

0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:13.119
<v Speaker 1>got to do to execute to win, and our guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really, I think it took the bestage to

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<v Speaker 1>heart there in the second half on one game left,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a division rival, the Cleveland Browns. They lose today,

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<v Speaker 1>um to you know they can't have a winning season.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's going to be a couple of football

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<v Speaker 1>teams that are going to be I think, you know, disappointed,

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<v Speaker 1>but still want to go out in a high note.

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a big division rivalry. We're gonna be hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>We're finishing at home against a divisional team that we

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<v Speaker 1>felt like we didn't give him our best the last

0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.440
<v Speaker 1>time we played him, and so there there's plenty left

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<v Speaker 1>for us to play. Four here. After Lap finished talking

0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to Zach, he joined me for postgame analysis and we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed the craziest finished Lap has witnessed in more than

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<v Speaker 1>three decades as a Bengals broadcaster. Never seen it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the guys I talked to, I asked, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever played in a game or seeing a

0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.040
<v Speaker 1>game like that? And they really couldn't calling any and

0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.919
<v Speaker 1>he said, maybe one close in high school, but not

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 1>quite like that. When you think of everything that had

0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to happen for them to get it done. The onside

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 1>kick they hail maryed by Tyler Eifert, that's answered, you know,

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the scoring, two touchdowns, and two point conversions. The checklist

0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.600
<v Speaker 1>is long, and for them to get it done and

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<v Speaker 1>make plays. And everybody I talked to was so frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>because in the first half they had five three and

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<v Speaker 1>outs and they were doing that. Miami is doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing man coverage, and you know, they're saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just let's just make plays. But it seemed like guys

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<v Speaker 1>were pressing, you know, guys were just trying to force plays,

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<v Speaker 1>make plays. And once they had just calmed down and relaxed,

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<v Speaker 1>and once one play was made, it kind of opened

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<v Speaker 1>the damn and everybody started making plays and everybody kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fed off of that, and then the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just turned into what it turned into down

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch. But Miami really didn't do anything differently. The

0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Bengals just didn't get it done in the first half,

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.760
<v Speaker 1>and they got it done big time in the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly in the fourth quarter. And when you look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Fitzpatrick had one hundred and fifty yards passing

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<v Speaker 1>in the first quarter, two fifty and the half, and

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<v Speaker 1>Andy his numbers weren't like that, and then they flipped,

0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, just slipped completely around. So it was it

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<v Speaker 1>was a very very interesting football game for sure. I

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 1>think everybody felt like if they won the coin flip,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have won the game. But they all say, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we should have still won the game. We had the

0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.400
<v Speaker 1>momentum even if we won the coin flip. We gotta

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<v Speaker 1>win that football game. They did have two possessions in overtime,

0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.840
<v Speaker 1>so they had a chance. Ye. Andy Dalton wound up

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<v Speaker 1>with three hundred ninety six passing yards four touchdown passes.

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<v Speaker 1>They all came in the second half. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>there's strong possibility that Andy is not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>back with Cincinnati next year. We'll see in the offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>but if this turns out to be one of his

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<v Speaker 1>last games in a Bengals uniform, that second half was

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<v Speaker 1>about as well as he's played. You know, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>the other quarterback. We've seen Ryan fitzmagic do his Fitch magic,

0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it was Andy that did a lot

0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 1>of magic. So I think there's more similarities than differences.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, between those two guys at the quarterback position,

0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.119
<v Speaker 1>and see those two, you know, like they're they're almost

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 1>coaches their respective teams, not just quarterbacks. And there's leadership qualities,

0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>there's intelligence, there's all those things, and you know, guys

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.399
<v Speaker 1>believe in them and guys trust them. And so it

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting to see will Ryan Fitzpatrick be back as

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.440
<v Speaker 1>a Dolphin if they take a quarterback with one of

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.760
<v Speaker 1>their first round picks. Will Andy Dalton be back as

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback if the Bengals take a quarterback with their

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 1>first pick, which they've now got the first pick of

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.439
<v Speaker 1>the draft. All these questions are to be answered, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was interested to see these two guys in a

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<v Speaker 1>prideful way, you know, down the stretch of their respective careers,

0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.520
<v Speaker 1>potentially with these two teams play the way they played.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Randy Bullock. A week after that embarrassing on

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.479
<v Speaker 1>side kick attempt that spun to a stop after five yards,

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.080
<v Speaker 1>he sets a franchise record with a fifty seven yard

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>field goal that was done once in a playoff game

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>by Mike new gympethis officially goes in the book as

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>a new Bengals record. And then a perfectly executed on

0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:57.280
<v Speaker 1>side kick to give the Bengals a chance. I mean

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>they put the ball on its side and helicopter deal

0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.960
<v Speaker 1>that went five yards was monked in almost every football

0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>show I saw during the course of the week, I

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.639
<v Speaker 1>mean mocked, and now I'm sure they won't because it

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<v Speaker 1>was executed so perfectly. It went from being mocked to

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>this onside kick, you know, the second bounce, getting the

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<v Speaker 1>heightened and Stanley Morgan made a great effort to get

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<v Speaker 1>after the ball and had possession and then just lost

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.199
<v Speaker 1>the possession a little bit and Jordan Evans is right

0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>there to get it bouncing off the tourugh. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>think of the three things that had to happen just

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<v Speaker 1>on the onside kick to be executed the way it

0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>was executed. So hopefully Randy Bullet gets some credit with

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<v Speaker 1>some of these football shows as opposed to, you know,

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.920
<v Speaker 1>being mocked for his performance the week before. On defense,

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Darius Phillips had an interception and played well after Will

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Jackson left with an injury. He really did. I mean

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Darius Phillips, he provides sticky coverage, he gets his head

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>snapped around, finds the football. I think he's he's you

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 1>know We know he can return the football. He provides

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 1>some diversity and skill set, you know, to the football team.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think his career's arrowing up, There's no question

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And you know a lot of guys made

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>made players when they when they needed to to give

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the team a chance to win this football game. I mean,

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>it didn't. It didn't look very good for for quite

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.480
<v Speaker 1>a while. Down the stretch it was. It may have

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<v Speaker 1>been as crazy a game in the fourth quarters I

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<v Speaker 1>think I've seen, I don't know, maybe forever. One game

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<v Speaker 1>left at home against the Cleveland Browns has no impact

0:24:25.440 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>on the draft as far as the Bengals concerned. They

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>can try to go out with a victory at home

0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>against Cleveland, and everybody in the stands I'll be rooting

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 1>for that outcome for Cincinnati, no question. I mean, it's

0:24:36.080 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a division opponent. Don't have a division game this season.

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>It's been quite about while since won a division game.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't get a road win this year. It's the fourth

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.119
<v Speaker 1>team that didn't get that done in franchise history. You

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>do not want to be a team that doesn't get

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a division win for an entire season. You know, that's

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>that's not something that you want to hang your hat on. So,

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, hopefully the way this game ended, some momentum

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.919
<v Speaker 1>will carry over from that and no play, you know,

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>at a high level for the entire football game against

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Browns because his day own for sure. There's

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>one game left in the season and after that. We

0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>will be doing a lot of draft analysis between now

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and April twenty third. At the moment, most of the

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>draft gurus have LSU quarterback Joe Burrow and Ohio State

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:23.159
<v Speaker 1>defensive end Chase Young as the top two players on

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the board. Recently, I asked Pro Football Focus analysts Sam

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>monson if the first pick should be Burrow, Young or

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 1>somebody else. I think it should be Joe Burrow. You know,

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.560
<v Speaker 1>he is the best college quarterback right now. He's the

0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:42.919
<v Speaker 1>guy that will be the best quarterback prospect on the

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>board at the time. I think that was close between

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 1>him and two of I think he's had such an

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 1>incredible season statistically, He's putting up some accuracy numbers that

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we've never seen from quarterbacks before. And the bottom line

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>is nothing moves the needle more than a quarterback, you know,

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and less you have the quarterback, almost nothing else matters.

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.640
<v Speaker 1>So Chase Young is having his own incredible season. He's

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<v Speaker 1>putting up the best pass rushing season we've ever seen

0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.879
<v Speaker 1>in college football. He's probably the best player both in

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the country and in the draft. But if you don't

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>have a quarterback, Chase Young is not going to win

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you games. You know, he may be worth a win

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>two wins above replacement, whereas Joe Burrow, if he pounds out,

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy that will propel you from you know,

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>contending for the number one overall pick, to being right

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>back in a playoff conversation if he works out. It's

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>one of many key decisions the Bengals will be facing

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>this offseason. But first things first. On Sunday, the Bengals

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>end the season against the six and nine Cleveland Browns,

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>who will not only miss the playoffs for the seventeenth

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>straight year, but the Sports Illustrated preseason cover boys are

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed of having a worse record than last year when

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<v Speaker 1>they went seven eight and one. Now time for this

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>week's fun Facts interview, where we get to know the

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>person under the pads. This week, it's a rookie offensive

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 1>lineman who got his most playing time as a pro

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>this week in Miami. Time for some fun facts with

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman Fred Johnson from West Palm Beach, Florida, on

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>the East Coast, a little bit north of Miami. What

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>do you love about your hometown? The weather? First and

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>four most. I love the weather about the city, and

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just I just love it because it's home. You know,

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>the sunshine, the rain, all of it. Fred, you are

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 1>not a guy who grew up spending your whole life

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>dreaming of playing in the NFL. Correct, No, not at all,

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 1>not even at all. We just just watch games. Nobody

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>would ever think that any of us in the roll, me,

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>my cousins and my granddad and like any one of

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>us would be in an NFL game, let alone on

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the NFL roster. I've heard you described as being a

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>late bloomer. Is that accurate? Late bloomer? Is accurate? Is

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>did the coaches more or less have to drag you

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>out there to get you to start playing football my

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>senior year, I mean my junior year, Like one of

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>the coaches got tired of me going to the library

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>every day at lunch. I just play video games and stuff.

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Held like, just come out one day and then the

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>team my teammates really the ones who you know, let

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>me keep with it, you know, made me want to

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 1>come back out there every day. So really was a

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.960
<v Speaker 1>teammates thing, just just the whole chemistry of a team.

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 1>It was really made me stick around. She didn't play

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 1>varsity football in high school until you were a senior.

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Did you start to love it or did you see

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the opportunities that might be there? I loved it, like

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>just that senior spring. I promise you it was one

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 1>of the hardest manors I ever went through, you know,

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>high school because I want to play like one year.

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>So that first man that I went through it was

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, just a bondom with me and my teammates,

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and just that that senior season was like

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I got open, like my eyes open to the opportunities

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of going to college and doing something that nobody in

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.240
<v Speaker 1>my family ever done, you know. So I really it

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>really didn't start processing until like the end of the

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>year when I had to you know, get qualified and

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 1>all my grades and stuff before I can even be

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>able to go to college. Because I got accepted in

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>the college, but I wasn't not they didn't know if

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna graduate high school. So it was one

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>of those deals and just to just to love of

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the game and the opportunities that it had. I could

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>go to your education free, so I took it. See

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<v Speaker 1>you playing video games in the library. What were some

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of the other things you like to do when you

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>were young? Um? Another really too crazy, like you know,

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>all the basic stuff that you know, little kids like doing,

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 1>playing outside and stuff like that. Really took a liking to, um,

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>just video games, like growing up, just trying to be

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>the best at that because I didn't really have to

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>do much, so it was pretty easy fell in love

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>with I wanted to be a basketball player like my uncle,

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>but that didn't turn out any too well because of

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the because of the conditioning for it. So when I

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>fell into football, I kind of loved it because of

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 1>his with it. There's something that basketball. Let all right,

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned your uncle, Oh this Thorpe seventeen years in

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the NBA, an All Star, an NBA champion. How much

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>did you know about his career growing up? Really just

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 1>because how tall he was, we knew like instantly, like

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>he was, you know, a very famous world veteran person

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and just his his a history and just like what

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>he did to get to where he was at now,

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>is um you know something that I admired, something that

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do, Like I always wanted to play basketball,

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and just when like it didn't work out, I was

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of bombed. You know what I found. I think

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I found my calling in football. And just you know,

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he tries to mentor me like hearing there, you know

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they call him out the blue and just asked me,

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:42.680
<v Speaker 1>like I think it's going, you know, give me a

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>little advice that I need, you know, nothing too much,

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing too much to weigh me down, but just another

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to keep me up, like about my head above order

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. So it's pretty cool. So one year a

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>varsity football in high school and just like that, you're

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>offered scholarships by great college football programs. You wind up

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 1>with the Florida Gators and you actually started a couple

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>of games as a true freshman, even only playing one

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>year of high school football, and your head had to

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>be spinning when we first got into college. Um, like,

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I went to college just because like just just the

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>off the competition I was there. I knew like ten

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>guys was going to be enrolled that year because they

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was down office alignment and fell in love with the

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>SEC as soon as I stepped from into the stadium

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>so spring like. I was like, man, I love it here,

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I need to come here and then get thrown

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>into the fire like you just said, as a true freshman.

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Uh was kind of scary, kind of whirlwind. Freshman year

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of flew by better remember, But I remember my

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>first game. I was about to play and I think

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>it was New Mexico State, and one of my teammates

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 1>came like right before us when to go, and he's like,

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>are you scared? I was like, no, he's scared, Like

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>why would you ask that? Like, you know, great experiences there.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I learned the game as the years went on and

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 1>really got like really got a holding of it now.

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>So the first first few games was really tough. I've

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>been to Gainesville. Great college campus, great college life. What

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>did you enjoy the most about being at the University

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>of Florida? The members I have. You look at football,

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 1>you look at social life, the friends I've made, the

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>coaches I've met, you know, and they're interacted with. You'll

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>never find no type of anything like that anywhere else,

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Like the Florida campus, the fans especially the fans. The

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>fans are literally what makes you want to go to

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I really committed because I've seen we went to a

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>basketball game, Like during my visit, I've seen this lady,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>older lady just clapping like like cheering on the cheering

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>on the game and like just not even watching it,

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>like she was walking back to her seat. I was like,

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I love it here. I can't so really the atmosphere

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>of just the campus itself, you know, the team, the history,

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.479
<v Speaker 1>the pride in it. It really sticks with me. Now.

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, So after college, you signed us a college

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>free agent with the Pittsburgh Steelers. You make the team

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>out of training camp and and in October they tried

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to move you from the roster the practice squad and

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals snatched you up. Was that difficult considering that

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>you're really just getting established in Pittsburgh. Yeah, that's difficult. Um,

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, uh like could like I thank everybody

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to steal this organization for giving me a shot, you know,

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to come out and show what I can do. And

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>really I took it upon myself, like to go to

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh when there was other options there. The history of

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh and the physicality that they bring, like their team

0:33:31.000 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>is known for. I wanted to be a part of it,

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and when they waived me, it was it was difficult,

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know. I had to accept the fact that I

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 1>was being waived and that I could be back on

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the private squad soon. But um, I mean it was

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>just h it was. It was a tough process. But

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>right when I got here, I felt like, you know,

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>I could really make a home here too, So it

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>was no big deal. A few more fun facts with

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>Fred Johnson with the Bengal. So far, you've been used

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>primarily as a sixth offensive lineman, but a couple of

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>games ago against Cleveland, you where the primary option on

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>a pass. You're gonna try to trick the Cleveland Browns

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and throw it to the big foul. To their credit,

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 1>they sniffed it out and they covered you pretty well.

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>But how exciting was that possibility for you? Oh? So bad?

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>It was covering me. I was like, come on, like

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 1>come on, we can, like let me have my moment

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<v Speaker 1>like at least one time in my career, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just it was so exciting. I wanted to score

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown and then I was like, I was very nervous,

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<v Speaker 1>like leader to the air just about running that route.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all my team is giving me like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like joking with me about it and stuff. Don't drop

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and drop the ball, And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not evenna drop the ball. I just think about

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do after ILL score the touchdown. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I say that, two of them was like on me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh lord, this this is my

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<v Speaker 1>dream going going bay by something. It was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. H it was fun like they called it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh. And I ran that route as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as I could too. Do you have a good celebration plan?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no right now. No. Probably might just spiked the

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<v Speaker 1>ball and run out then grab the ball hope to

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<v Speaker 1>put it like my memory case or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, not really, nothing too crazy right now. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>A couple more fun facts. If Fred Johnson, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you like to spend your money on shoes? Probably? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I like like buying shoes and stuff clothes. You know,

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you can never have too many clothes. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>spent like some of my money home for my cave flans,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't really like I like video games, I

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<v Speaker 1>buy any video game, I like, I don't really, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not really too promising like jewelry and stuff right now,

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 1>not yet. Just I'm a ricky. I was on drafted,

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<v Speaker 1>so trying to save my money. But really video games

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<v Speaker 1>and shoes. Do you have a hidden talent? I think

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<v Speaker 1>I could sing, but nobody else thinks I could sing,

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<v Speaker 1>so like Nope, but not at all, not on all

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<v Speaker 1>of your recording. Maybe in person, you know, with like

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<v Speaker 1>blaring music in the background, but nothing really nothing really

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<v Speaker 1>too crazy. Where do you terrible at? I am terrible

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 1>at trying Like dancing, I'm I don't think I'm terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not really good. I'm not really good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I try to do it, I'll do it

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<v Speaker 1>to the best of my ability. I do what I

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<v Speaker 1>know I could do. I don't try to go out

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<v Speaker 1>my way, you know, stick to what you now, stick

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<v Speaker 1>to what you know exactly. Um that's about it. Think

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<v Speaker 1>people say I'm terrible like cooking, but I don't believe him.

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<v Speaker 1>As long as you like what you cut, that's exactly right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Final fund fact, if you can meet anybody

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<v Speaker 1>in history, athlete, actor, politician, religious figure, whatever, historical figure

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>who would that person be. It had to be like

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<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Atics or Martin Luther King one or two. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them picked their brain a little bit. You know. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If I can mean anybody living, you'll probably be Will

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<v Speaker 1>Smith just because of the knowledge he has. Um. Not

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<v Speaker 1>too many people see it, but I feel like he's

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<v Speaker 1>a knowledgeable person. You know. Um, he can do it all.

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<v Speaker 1>He could do it all. You know, most things you

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<v Speaker 1>know he could do that would probably be it. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is fun. You're off the hot seat, appreciate the time.

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