1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Christo and this is the Keep It Positive, 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: Sweetish Show. Welcome to the Keep It Positive, Sweetish Show, 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: a place where we heal, grow and learn together. Today's 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: guest is Grammy winning rappers, songwriter, actor, entrepreneur, television hosts, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: and now author with his debut memoir, The Voice in 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: My Head Is God. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm so glad to be sitting with Two Chains. 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: Today's guest is someone whose journey has evolved far beyond music. 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: Known around the world as an artist, entrepreneur, and cultural voice, 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: He's now stepping into a new chapter as an author 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: with his book The Voice in My Head Is God 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: and It he reflects on faith, intuition, family, and the 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: inner voice that guided him through everything from childhood to 15 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: success in the music industry. Kiss Familey, please give a 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: very warm welcome to Two Chains. 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: How you doing, I'm good, happy to have you here. Yes, absolutely. 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: We first met a few years ago my fourth birthday. 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: I called everybody, ain't Mama, do you hear me? Because 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: you know, it's always like six degrees in Atlanta's like 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: two degrees of separation. I was like, okay, you cool 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: with him? Can you ask him? 23 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: I really try to get him at my birthday party 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: and we finally closed the deal. 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: And when I tell you to this day, people are 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: saying that's still like the best birthday party they've been 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: to in Atlanta. 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: I ain't know what I was walking into. 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 4: I didn't know my friend in the gym, Yeah, Mark. 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 3: He was like, man, my sister, Man, you know, shout 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: out Mark. Yeah. 32 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 4: And I showed up and it was just a beautiful crowd. 33 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 4: I really didn't know what I was I was showing up, 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 4: but I'm glad. I'm glad we did it because I 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 4: think we built a relationship from that. 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: From that event. 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: You know, I know you was booking me as like talent, 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: but then I started learning more about you and what 39 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: you doing. So then I became a fan of yours. 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yes, it's been love ever since. I appreciated. 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 2: Happy to have you here to talk about your new book. 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: The voice in my head is God. 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: When you hit me about it, I said, oh, we 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: got to have you on the podcast. We have like 45 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: a it hasn't been a fish. 46 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: We have an unofficial book club, so anything I posted, 47 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: I'm reading my Sweeties or go buy it. So we're 48 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: gonna add this to the book club. We're gonna read it, 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: says shall get it, and we're gonna talk about it 50 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: for sure. I'm super excited to get into that. But 51 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: before we get into it, we're gonna do a quick game. 52 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: Of rapid fire. 53 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: I want you to tell me the first thing that 54 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: comes to your mind. All right, flats are drums? 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 3: Flat? 56 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: Okay. One thing people always get wrong about. 57 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: You, People say, look mean. I don't think I'm mean. 58 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: No, you're not your go to late night snack. 59 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: Almens. 60 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: Oh healthy, that's. 61 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: A good one. Okay. 62 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: See mine is salty caramel ice cream with the cons 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: first thing you do when you get back home after 64 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: a long road trip, you. 65 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 4: Know, hug and kiss the wife, you know, say what's 66 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: up to the kid is take a shower and get 67 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: in my. 68 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: Own bed, nothing like your own bed, and shout out 69 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: to the wife, Keisha, who's in the studio with us today? 70 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Hagar All right, do you enjoy the studio or the stage? 71 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: Man? That's all so hard, but I think I might. 72 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: That's so hard. That's so hard for me. 73 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: Like I've been on stage just going crazy and just 74 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: loving the energy from the crowd, I done looked up and. 75 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: Thank the Lord, and then. 76 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: I don't have been in the studio and I said 77 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: something so hard that I don't thank the Lord. So 78 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: I don't even know. 79 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: We'll take both of them. 80 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: What is the most expensive thing that you have bought 81 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 2: that had you looking at the receipt like, all right, 82 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: that was a little. 83 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: Crazy, probably, you know, homes, cars, homes and cars. 84 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, sometimes it is crazy. 85 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: It is, but it's a blessing. Another thing I love 86 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: that God is good. 87 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: So looking back at your journey going from college Park 88 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 2: to now you are a global success. Looking at the 89 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: little boy and you what do you think he'd be 90 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: most surprised at now if he could look into the 91 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: future and see where you are. 92 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: Now that I'm still going that I'm still very much 93 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: passionate and energetic about, you know, getting up every day 94 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: and what the day may brings. And still I'm still 95 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 4: enjoy learning new stuff. I still enjoy me new people. 96 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: So even though I'm growing and maturing, even age wise, 97 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 4: I think internally. 98 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: I'm excited about life. You know what I'm saying. 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: Overall, what does a normal day and two change life 100 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: look like? You say you're excited to wake up every day. 101 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: What does that look like. 102 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: I don't sleep at night, so I probably go to 103 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: sleep around maybe like seven o'clock in the morning. I 104 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: get up around twelve or one. I go to the 105 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: gym at around two twenty two thirty because I work 106 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: out with a with another person that is like taking 107 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: a lunch break, So it's like we're trying to get 108 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: that one. 109 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: Day in to work out. And then. 110 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: I have a smoothie, then I shower, then I eat. 111 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 4: Then I picked my son up from school, take him 112 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: to train, and take him, get some comeback, drop him off, 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: and then I watched basketball and I might take like 114 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: an hour and nap or something like that. Because I 115 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 4: start working every night around from like twelve to six. 116 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 4: I record I'm in the studio. Wow, And it's very habitual. 117 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 4: It's very just like I do that basically every day. 118 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 4: I mean, this book tour, this book run has definitely 119 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: thrown off my gym schedule and thrown off the time 120 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: that I was using to, you know, make sure I 121 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: get my son from A to B. But overall, it's 122 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: been so much good feedback from the book. People showing up. 123 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 4: You know, it was my aspiration just to like affect 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: one person. And man, when I tell you it exceeded 125 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 4: that expectation already, it's not even been a week. And 126 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 4: how this young lady just booho cried and in my 127 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 4: arms in Dallas last night, like boohoo like, and how 128 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 4: the book helped her and how she reads it at 129 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: seven in the morning and she plays the audio book 130 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: why she reading. I'm like, I've never you know, did 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 4: it like that? But audiobook it's in my voice. So yeah, 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 4: it's in my voice. And it's like something that is 133 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: new and innovative that you know, and I don't know 134 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 4: anybody that has production in their audiobooks. Like my audiobook. 135 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: You can actually hear the scene that I'm describing that 136 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 4: I'm reading. Yeah, yes, So it's like that I just 137 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 4: brought something different. 138 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: It's like, man, I still took elements. 139 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: From the you know, me being a you know, an artist, musician, 140 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: and you know, you see you hear albums and they 141 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: have skits and stuff in it. So when you're reading 142 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: a book that sounds like it could be a skit, 143 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: why not have the anyway? So I know y'all gonna 144 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: take that you can have. This is what I do. 145 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: I come in the game, I leave something behind, and 146 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: y'all try to add like I ain't. 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: Doing it, but right, we heard it here first year. 148 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: I've never heard of that, But I do. I read 149 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: books and listen to audio because sometimes I don't want 150 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: to put this. 151 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hit out a lot what they do to us, 152 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: Like why does everybody say that I hear this? I 153 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: hear this every day. I hear I got a d 154 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 4: I hear this every day more than I hear somebody 155 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: saying excuse me and thank you. I hear I hear like, man, 156 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: I got a little bit of a little bit. Somebody 157 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: just can't lock in sometimes, so you do the same 158 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 4: thing you do audio and mind. 159 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I do that with my Bible, like when I'm reading 160 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: the Bible. 161 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I listened to it on the Bible app where 162 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: it's reading and I'm reading along with it. 163 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: But it helps me stay locked in. 164 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: I can see it there too, because I think sometimes 165 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: so even recently, sometimes I just I might just take 166 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: the Bible just look. I'm sure I'm not the only 167 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: one to do. This is just open it up and 168 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: like God reads something from here right hard, like some 169 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: words that's like the language is what I'm saying. Sometimes 170 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: I feel, yeah, so I think that that way, and 171 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: I do know they have all the literature that breaks 172 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: down stuff and lay in. 173 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: Terms of yeah, that's what I need you. 174 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: But no, I love that, so I understand why she does, 175 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: and I think that's dope that she listens and reason 176 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: like she's really getting it. I gotta listen to that 177 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: because I love how you added the elements of production 178 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: in so hard. 179 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: It's so hard. 180 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 4: I'm about to take this to another level. Man, I 181 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: just feel like this is a New York Times best self. 182 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: It will be. 183 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 4: The voice in my head is God? Is something that 184 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: I actually struggled with really even talking about because I'm 185 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 4: not I mean, I'm sure when I when I when 186 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: I trace it back to it, it got to be 187 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 4: intuition before then I'm thinking, I just got a voice 188 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 4: in mind. I really just thinking because I'm really hearing 189 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 4: something that's telling me to go this way or put 190 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: that on or walk over there, and like it's been 191 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: navigating me a lot, and when I follow that voice, 192 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: it leads me ultimately leads me to success. So I 193 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 4: started talking to people about like his voice, and then 194 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 4: it's like it's subconscious. Then it started going back to like, 195 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: it's really something that we all have, which is intuition. 196 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 4: It's about when you like, when you find it, when 197 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: you become tapped in and with the chap that I 198 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: got in there called women are superheroes and my and 199 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: my book is solely opinion based, right, I didn't reason 200 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: search y'all. You know, like reading my book is like 201 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: purely my beliefs. 202 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Yes, in your experience. 203 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: So I do believe women are superheroes. So I just like, 204 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 4: like the things my wife know before I have my mom, 205 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 4: and they don't. They do it unconsciously, but like I 206 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 4: feel like women are just in tune to intuition before man. 207 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: They mature before man anyway. 208 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, no, that's crazy when you look back at 209 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: your younger self. In your book, the Voice in my 210 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: head is God, which is I love the title you 211 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: talk about how the voice in your head is guidance 212 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: that everyone has access to if you just slow down 213 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: long enough to hear it. How young were you when 214 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: you realize, wait a minute. 215 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: This is God talking to me. 216 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: So I don't put God. 217 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: I don't put God to it too super recently, So 218 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: what happened with the book is I wanted to write 219 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 4: a book about something, not just an autobiography, and I 220 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: wanted it to have some type of substance, and I 221 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: also wanted it wanted it to tap into an audience 222 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,119 Speaker 4: outside of hip hop. So me having a concept like intuition, 223 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: I'm telling some stories, and when I tell the story 224 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: and I trace it all the way back, it's a 225 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 4: voice that told me, boy, you ain't got no business going. 226 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: It told me before I got there, or it told 227 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 4: me to do. So a lot of this stuff I 228 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: thought about was either like whether it was a trauma 229 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 4: or even a celebration. I trace it back in my 230 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 4: mind and it literally and so then I started. Then 231 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: you start hearing you made in the image of God, 232 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: and God is in all this stuff. And then another 233 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 4: thing that I felt like was super relatable to people 234 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: is like how we say, you know, man, something told 235 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: me I was gonna run in something you know, you 236 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 4: feel something you know. I just feel like, what if 237 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 4: that it's like whatever you believe in obviously, but what 238 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: if that's God like in you, like whispering or whatever, 239 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: just saying like, man, you know this ain't it's time 240 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: to go. It don't mean somebody finish, shoot the place up. 241 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: But sometimes time to go or something like that. 242 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 4: I'm liking somebody that just abruptly like like my team 243 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: just be like what you're going, what we're doing? 244 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: You know, I just get. 245 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: Up out of here. 246 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: And when I don't. 247 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: Do it, let's talk about that. 248 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: But I say, man, I knew I should have left. Bro, 249 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: it just happened to me not too long. I thought 250 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: I was gonna miss something. So I'm sticking around before 251 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: I know they don't turn the lights on. That the 252 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 4: part I don't like that kind of part where the 253 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: lights and there everybody's sitting around looking crazy. Then you know, 254 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 4: you know, then they they say we're gonna start the 255 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 4: part about the whole time. I said, man, I should 256 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 4: have been left this, you know what I mean. So 257 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: that's something about a club. I'm just saying in. 258 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: General, and for sure I definitely can attest to times 259 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: where I should maybe left somebody alone. 260 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: Oh man, That's why I say, y'all be knowing y'all 261 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: just do. 262 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: It like y'all y'all. 263 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta chop to call the boys that 264 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 4: women do a lot too, like we do too. Women 265 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: do that too, but we had a voice too, like 266 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: sometimes and and and when we do something out of 267 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 4: the boys, it don't mean that it's always going to 268 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 4: be a bad outcome, right, Yeah. 269 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: Some things gonna be just like because we do it 270 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: off of like just impulse, like I want to do this, 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it, go for it. 272 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: The boys deal with like the very the human part 273 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: of you, the part that so I say, God is love, 274 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: God equals love. So they if you want to differentiate, 275 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: like the voices, like if it got something to do 276 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: with like love in it, this may be him whispering 277 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: to But if you got to do what you like, 278 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 4: crashing out, going to his house, busting his winders out. 279 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: And all that stuff, and like you like something. 280 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: I read your book, change something told me go over there. 281 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 4: I went over that and caught it. Whatever. I don't 282 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: like that, don't think home, I don't think. I don't 283 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: think he told you to do that one. You know, 284 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: but we all got that voice, and we all got 285 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: to live off experience to this book is very much 286 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 4: an experience base. It's not like a religious book. It's 287 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: me talking about God through like my experience, my journey. 288 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, and you talk about your mother, your grandmother, 289 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: your wife being superheroes. What was it something that you 290 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: may have not understood as a child, but now as 291 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: an adult man, you understand about your grandmother or your mother. 292 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: When you're growing up. 293 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 4: Man, you know, your mama always going to tell you 294 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: who she feels like it is right, the right crowds 295 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: and right places and stuff, you know, be around then. 296 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: You know, we always gotta find out, don't know, we 297 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 4: all Yeah, Mama tell you when they hit you, sure, 298 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: and they just like and you like, yeah, got it, 299 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: you know, thank you, you know so much it comes back. Yeah, 300 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: But I wasn't changed. I wouldn't change a lot of 301 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: the mistakes I made because like, they gotta happen too. 302 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: The book ain't about like living a perfect life. It's 303 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: just about taking the time and connecting with that divine guidance, 304 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: that internal navigation, you know what I mean. It's not 305 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: about like never making mistakes. 306 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: Right for sure, Listen. 307 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: I'd always say that every mistake I made has made 308 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: me the woman I am today, you know, because you 309 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: learn from it. 310 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: It's a lesson. 311 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 312 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like it makes some of the 313 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: best people, you know, because we can also help other people. 314 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: Before they have to fall down the same path. 315 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah. 316 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: Now you talk about your dad being incarcerated and always 317 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: telling you a woman can't raise a man. 318 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: You touch on that in the book. Let's talk about that. 319 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: Just raised by. 320 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: Old school kind of man's man. You know, was in 321 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: the army, used to do airborne jump out of planes. 322 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, that was his thing, and did a 323 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: little prison time. So he was like a man's man. 324 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: So like I tell people, I'm kind of from the boys, 325 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 4: don't cry error. 326 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: Like you gotta be like. 327 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 4: Whatever it is, it's just like you just can't cry. 328 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: But the part is like when he passed, I literally 329 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: needed like windshire of wipers on my eye. 330 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: I cried so much. I was like I was balding. 331 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah I saw her. You said the reservoir had dried up. 332 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: And then when your father I. 333 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 4: Used to be like, man, I mean, I used to 334 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: tell my hon I'm dehydrated by I can't crack like well, 335 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and what it is. 336 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: You become numb. 337 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: You become so tough that whatever hurt you just kind 338 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 4: of you kind of like you know what I mean, 339 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: just kind of like to my breaking bones and everything. 340 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: You just kind of you just so you know, he 341 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 4: just one of them. Man, It just sticks with you. 342 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: But he was a but somebody, you know, as a father. 343 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: You admire him and then you hear these stories and 344 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 4: these tales about him, and you know, you know what 345 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying, you got that DNA inside of you and 346 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. 347 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: It's like he was a superhero to me too, you know. 348 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: And he stayed with me the last maybe seven years 349 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 4: of his life, and we just build a real great 350 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: bond and he ultimately passed right in front of me 351 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 4: at the hospital. And uh, it's something I think about 352 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 4: all the time often, you know. Yeah, but I still 353 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: sometimes I maybe hear him, who knows, maybe it's him 354 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 4: talking to me. Yeah, but I feel him. And then 355 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 4: my son has a lot of I don't know, they 356 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 4: just have a lot in common. 357 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: And they you see a lot of your dad. 358 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: I see a lot of Yeah, I do. 359 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: So that's what I tell everybody, like, hello, my best friend. Man, 360 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 4: you love me so much of my pops, you know, 361 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 4: I love that. 362 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: How did your relationship with your dad's shape how you 363 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: are with Halo now, especially those last seven years spending 364 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 2: with your. 365 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 4: Father, Well, it makes me want to not like skip 366 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 4: anytime with Halo, you know what I mean. I can't 367 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: imagine skipping twelve thirteen years. 368 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: Or something like that. 369 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it just makes me want to be just 370 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 4: beat there for him and give him some kind of 371 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: game and some pointers on navigating life. Make sure I'm 372 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: instilling confidence in him, Like you know that black boy 373 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 4: confidence is a It's a weapon in itself, you know 374 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 4: what I mean. So just teach him how to use 375 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: that weapon when you comforting in the room and you 376 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 4: just making people uncomfortable as a ten year old or. 377 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: Whatever it is, you know, just. 378 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: Making sure that he's a better person than me, you 379 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Just like, dedicate my life to making. 380 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: Sure he's ten. 381 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 382 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: No, I love that. I ran to y'all in the 383 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: parking lot. You go to your season ticket holder, the Hogs. 384 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: I always admire you when you're with your wife or 385 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: your daughter's courtside and your son. 386 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, that is dope. 387 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: Like my dad took me to McDonald's for breakfast. That 388 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: was our daddy daughter time. 389 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm like that was good. 390 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: At least you remember I'm trying to think, Okay, my 391 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 4: daddy let me think because he I ain't even talking 392 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 4: about like he wasn't nothing trying to sink what he 393 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: took me that was like our thing. Yeah, maybe it 394 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: hit me before, so, but I think it's important that 395 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 4: you create them experience. Yeah, like even a McDonald thing, 396 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 4: it's something like it's inexperience every morning. 397 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: After because he worked nights and then he would come 398 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: pick me up to take me to school. 399 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 4: Get some biscuits. I remember now, I remember my grand 400 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 4: my granddaddy used to get the biscuits. I'm trying to 401 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 4: think what me and my pops did. I can't remember 402 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: right now, but you know, but. 403 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: I love what you do with your kids, Like it's 404 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: so dope, and that daddy daughter time, that father son 405 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: time is so important. Yeah, man, like I it definitely 406 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: shaped the relationship. Like I still call my dad to 407 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 2: this day. 408 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: Like, Dad, what you're doing? You know? Like that's just 409 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: like that's one of my best friends. 410 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: So did you ever have because I have two teenage daughters, 411 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: was it ever time that you were not like this 412 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 4: with your dad? 413 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: Was it ever like you've always been? Yeah? 414 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: I feel like when I was in college, I may 415 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: have had a look of wild face where I was 416 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: just kind of like I don't want to talk to nobody, 417 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: like I want to do my thing. But as I 418 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: got older and then just realizing that time is fleeting 419 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: and you kind of look up when you're like, wait, 420 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: like I ain't not have them here that much longer? 421 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: You oh not. 422 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: The funny part is when you get the age that 423 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: you remember your parents was a yeah. I used to 424 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: think the old yeah, because I remember my dad. 425 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: Man. He used to Man, my dad was like he 426 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: would get out is my dad? 427 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 4: It was like and the trapping and all this hustling 428 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: and buying work and selling the work. I'll be rying 429 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 4: with him. Man, he have these cut off Jordash Jean 430 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: shorts and damn the no shirt on him when he 431 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: get out that car. I should be like I used 432 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: to get a little like this because I ain't even 433 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: want nobody to see man, Like, man, won't you put 434 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 4: a put some What are you doing? 435 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: Bro? 436 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: That man used to be out there, hey, hollering at 437 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: somebody across the street, like, man, man put some put 438 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 4: a shirt on anything. But yeah, yeah, we gotta you know. 439 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 4: I got the two teenage girls, and they really like 440 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: one is on the way to college, and you know, 441 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: basically I don't know any know that much, and I 442 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 4: can't be that cool. I'm only like two chains and 443 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 4: by the way, like two chains, yeah, probably probably showing 444 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: that probably don't even like nobody even need to know that. 445 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: Wow. 446 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 4: And then I got my thirteen year old who is 447 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: into like drip. So that's the way we do connect. 448 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's y'all's bonded. 449 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm said, but it could be times when you know, 450 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what the heck I'm talking about either, 451 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 4: which is insane. 452 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 453 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: I think that's every parent child situation at some point. 454 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: And like I said, that college time, like that's the 455 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: time where they're trying to figure themselves out. 456 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: And it's a lot, it's a lot. Yeah, but you'll 457 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: be fine. I promise you. It'll be over before you 458 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: know it, and then you'll be back. Bessie's yeah for sure, No, 459 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: for sure. So I love that. 460 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that intuition, and can you share with 461 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: us a time where you heard that voice and it 462 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: completely changed the trajectory because you listened, it changed the 463 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: trajectory of your life just from taking heed to it, 464 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: And then share a time where you look back and 465 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: like I should have listened. 466 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: And what happened in that moment. 467 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: A time where I listen to my boy, this is 468 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: when I got out like my first record deal, I 469 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 4: just you know, I ain't know I was gonna make 470 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 4: I'm Different her birthday. I didn't have these songs recorded. 471 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: I didn't have anything. I just knew I wanted to 472 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: be an independent. I wanted to be on my own. 473 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: You know. It wasn't so much I was leaving the 474 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 4: situation to get back in another situation, right, but I 475 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: thought I had build enough relationships and learned enough information 476 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: to try to do it on my own. And just 477 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: woke up one day and it wasn't like like it 478 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: was gradual, like I kept like threatening it to like 479 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: you keep playing more, you know, it was none of that. 480 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: I spoke up one day and I said, you know, 481 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 4: I just I didn't say it like this, but basically 482 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 4: like a voice told me, like I need to be 483 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 4: out here doing this, yeah, you know. And then a 484 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: time where, uh, at the time I didn't listen. Man, 485 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: I've been I don't I done got smacked for it 486 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: a couple of times for not listening. 487 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 3: To that voice. 488 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: Been in the wrong place, at the wrong time when 489 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: I actually but you know it, yeah, you know, you know, 490 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, you just don't. It's hard to when 491 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 4: you can't see things. It's hard to believe something you 492 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 4: can't see anyway. So it's hard to believe that run 493 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 4: the red light and cause an accident until you can 494 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 4: run a bunch of them, until you know you cause 495 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 4: you called, and but you can't see that before it happens, 496 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 4: you know. So that might be a poor example, but 497 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: that's basically what I mean about, Like you gotta like 498 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 4: navigate off trusting yourself first. Like, yeah, that's this is 499 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 4: how I navigate. I do have like somebody I talk 500 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: to a manager and all of that that start with 501 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 4: me first. 502 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: For exactly, No, for sure, talking about obstacles and being autimistic. 503 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: You are a very autimistic person, and talking about your 504 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: getting out of a record deal and you deciding that 505 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: you didn't want any more three sixty deals, Can you 506 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: explain to the people listening what a three sixty deal 507 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: is in the music industry and why you didn't want 508 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: to sign that. 509 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 4: At the time, it was very new. Three seasons are 510 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: very prevalent right now. At the time, I had so 511 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 4: much leverage that I think. You know, labels were just 512 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: trying to get me on the roster at this time, 513 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: but a three sixty deal was created, I don't know, 514 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 4: maybe fifteen years ago. 515 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: It's basically for artists that. 516 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: Make a stream of income outside of it may have 517 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 4: to do with music, but it's safe. For instance, like 518 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 4: you get paid for like a Pepsi commercial, the label 519 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: gets a percentage of that. Now, what happened is what 520 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: used to happen is and I understand both ways. Really, 521 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: when I think about art, a label give you somebody 522 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: to put you on. You shoot a video, somebody says 523 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: I like this guy, and they give you a million 524 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 4: dollars in the label, Like bro, you wouldn't even know 525 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: this person to being shooting. 526 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 3: So then labels figured out a way to get paid 527 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 3: off of artists generating like sponsorships and stuff like that. 528 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: This was on my. 529 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: First deal. I just had like a I don't know, 530 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: I just had a deal that you only can really 531 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: do when you have leverage. 532 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 3: You just can't go in right now. 533 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: If I had to do a deal, I'm independent right now. 534 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 4: But if I went back and got a deal with 535 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: a major, I'm positive i'd be like this is how 536 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 4: it goes. 537 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean if I was signing you, I 538 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: feel like. 539 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: Ya want three because you know I'm gonna go get 540 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 4: a bag somewhere else. You're looking at you, looking at 541 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: you know, you know no, but you're finna do something. 542 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 3: I know you. But I still might use the leverage 543 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 3: of but I'm already this. 544 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 4: I might still go back though. Yeah yeah, I might 545 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 4: pick and choose. I might have to figure it out 546 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: if I had to really negotiate that, Like I am 547 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: not like a newbie that if you put me on 548 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 4: MTV Awards, then you know my phone been ringing for 549 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 4: a couple of decades. 550 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 2: It has Let's talk about like how you say so relevant? 551 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 2: People don't last decades in this industry, and you have 552 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: found a way to stay relevant time after time. 553 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: People are still calling you. I'm seeing you. You do 554 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: so many different things. What is the secret sauce to 555 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: doing that? 556 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 3: Listening to the voice in my head, that was good. 557 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: You set it up. 558 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: It's so good. I love that. 559 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: So you did a fifty city tour, a fifty state 560 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: tour independently in a wheelchair. 561 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy. 562 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that because most people that you said 563 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 2: the voice in your head. People were telling you cancel it, 564 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 2: don't do it. But it's another moment where you listen 565 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: to the voice in your head. And I want to 566 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: know that at that point in time, you were turning 567 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: down deals. 568 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: You're like, no, I'm gonna do this on my own. 569 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 4: It was really like it was either the voice in 570 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 4: my head or or the morphine they give you in 571 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: the hospital. 572 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 3: That the button you press that button right, they say, 573 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: you'd be talking crazy. 574 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: I done broke my leg on Sunday to start winning 575 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 4: these folks all by my bed. 576 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 3: But what we're gonna do, What we're gonna do. 577 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: I hit the button to sleep again, and man, I 578 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know if it was a morphine 579 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: dream of God telling me. But I already got the concept, like, 580 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: just like with the bullet, this is about intuition, you know. 581 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 4: So my album called pretty Girls like tropp Me, so 582 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: I didn't got this whole concept of like trying to 583 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: make the trap like a positive connotation. So I got 584 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: like a pink trap house. I got like I was 585 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 4: pretty everything. I'm just trying to like put both worlds together. 586 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 4: And so something told me. Something told me, that's what 587 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 588 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: It got to be to me. 589 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 4: He said, Man, say, why don't you just get the 590 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 4: pink wheelchair and get the nurses to be like background dancers. 591 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: And I always christ Man, I always get like five ideas, 592 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 4: but I got a chap to call ideas occurrence. I 593 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: feel like that's that's like some people people with no ideas. 594 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm sorry. I like, man, it's gotta be hard. 595 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: It's be man. I came up with this idea and man, 596 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 4: within a day or two. Man, the turnaround was crazy. 597 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: The turnaround to get the wheel chairs. Man, put this 598 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: wheel chair together where you keep because I had to 599 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 4: keep the leg elevated and they got like rims on 600 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 4: it and manage and found like these dancers and they 601 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: got these little nurse costumes. And I don't have nothing 602 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 4: to do with the choreography. They just giving them the 603 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 4: songs I'm doing on tour. So I literally meet these 604 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: dancers that end up touring with me the night of 605 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: the show, like you know, the one that's gonna push 606 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 4: me around with you. 607 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we ain't did it together. Yeah we ain't did 608 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: none of that. 609 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm all I could do is kind of sitting in 610 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 4: front and you know, use a lot of upper right 611 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: go on. 612 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: But you had an arm too, one of your arms 613 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: isssing up. 614 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well listen my arm. When I brought my 615 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: arm the same night, but they put it back in 616 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: place the same it was just located. But I go out, 617 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 4: I do half the show. You know what I'm saying, 618 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 4: I'm making this, you know all this really like moving 619 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 4: a lot. 620 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it kind of like. 621 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 4: Make the show go by smooth because you're not move 622 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, moving back and forth. So 623 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: sometime the girla move me, move me stop, they do 624 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: whatever they do, move me, movement. 625 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: And then I. 626 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: Because I got I got the pink trap house on stage, 627 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 4: I got nurse. So in my mind I'm like, I'm 628 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: so creative that the fans might think this part of 629 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 4: the show. So I stopped the show. I go, yeah, 630 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 4: you know they clear, I say, man, yeah, man, I 631 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 4: broke my leg on Sunday, y'all, and I still wanted 632 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 4: to be here performed for y'all. And man, I hope 633 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 4: I ain't let y'all down, but I really right now, 634 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 4: I can't even walk, y'all. 635 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 3: Man, them folks go crazy yeah, I said, Oh, we 636 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: back there, get this money. 637 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, they gone this. It was it was 638 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: like I believe in you know what I'm saying being optimistic. 639 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: I feel like, man, how you turned this around. I'm 640 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 4: so man, I'm so mad at myself. And it just man, 641 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 4: it was just a fluke accident. I fell out this 642 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: four wheeler. 643 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: But like, man, that you've probably written a million times 644 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: on Man, I'm. 645 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: Just like, and it just happened. 646 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 4: And so then you look at like this is sign 647 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: God telling me sit down from tour. I said, no, man, 648 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 4: let me get this money. And then the guy that 649 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: made them wheel chair for me before the two over, man, 650 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: the man pass away. I never even meet him. 651 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: Are you serious? 652 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: Man, I'm like, this gotta be an angel. He like, 653 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 4: they tell me die from a motorcycle accident. So I'm like, 654 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: I'll be on my headline. So I couldn't even put 655 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: a face with the person who did it because I 656 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: never met the person, so like I couldn't even like 657 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: I was couldn't even like really like even really get 658 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: sad about it, cause I'm like, man, God just send 659 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 4: somebody to do this in the short period of time. 660 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: That's how he works. 661 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: That's crazy because so many people in that situation would 662 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: have definitely like cancelor, I you'll just. 663 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 4: Take me home, you know, come back and we see 664 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: it happened on People do cancelor tours all the time. 665 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: All the time and don't have a broken legs. 666 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: I think I think. 667 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: I think when they said, like we probably to get 668 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: that left million back, I think I just was like, 669 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: we ain't. I think that's what it was. I think 670 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: no matter what the voice was telling me, that wasn't 671 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: gonna get nobody to level me. It was something like 672 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: that I heard, to get this left men like who 673 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 4: we're finna pull up on the love? 674 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: You wan to dance? And it chall all all too 675 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: And that's what we did. 676 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: Man, Oh my goodness. That Yeah, that's definitely I love 677 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: that story. I really do. 678 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: So many people chase the success of hope. You what 679 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 2: I'm saying, just wish they can get to where you 680 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: are now. If there's somebody out there that's watching this 681 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: right now, and what you just explain is discipline, it's fortitude, 682 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: it's just doing it no matter what the circumstance is. 683 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 2: What would you tell them any type of advice to 684 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: get to try to get to where you are. If 685 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: they want to succeed in this industry, you have to 686 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: do it though. 687 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah that's good. You gotta do it. 688 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only way it can't happen, if 689 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 3: is if you don't try. So just always say that, 690 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: and you know it's easier said than done. I know 691 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: it's like so cliche to be like you, but really 692 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: you have to try. Yeah, you have to try. 693 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 4: And some people that do have ideas, it's important that 694 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 4: you align yourself with people that can help you bring 695 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: those ideas to fruition because most people that have ideas 696 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 4: don't know what to do with Yeah, I get that too, 697 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 4: but like I found like people around me that I 698 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: can actually funnel some of this stuff too and kind 699 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,479 Speaker 4: of bring them to light the pink, trump the pink 700 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 4: like that. Sometimes that would be somebody's idea and they 701 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: just don't know how to even who to contact who. 702 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 4: And I'm just I'm fortunate enough to have, you know, 703 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 4: a team that's like I don't like right now, if 704 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 4: I need a dancers tonight, I don't even know who 705 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 4: to much less sum it's gonna customize some nurse outfits 706 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: and on point when these songs drop like this is 707 00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 4: so it's big. 708 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 3: Then it's bigger than just you. 709 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, that team is everything. I'm with you on that. 710 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: That's good. 711 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: Now, you have been very open about your struggles with 712 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: lean abuse, talked about how you still can't do eat 713 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 2: any citruses like lemons, oranges, all the things. 714 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: How did you get to that? Was it something that 715 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: you were dealing with? You know, sometimes we as artists, 716 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: a lot of times. 717 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 2: Even successful people, we lean on certain things to suppress 718 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 2: whatever maybe feeling. Was it something that you were trying 719 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: to suppress at first, so you become numb to something 720 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: or did it? Was it just like society, you know, 721 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: because sometimes just like everybody doing it when it's a 722 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: part of the culture, you know. 723 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 4: No, I think my stomach was when I'm thinking about 724 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,479 Speaker 4: it now, I think my stomach was messed up before 725 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 4: I started drinking it. Drinking stuff ain't gonna lie used 726 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 4: to make it feel better? Really, Yes, bruh, I gotta 727 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 4: I got an indoor whatever they call it. When they 728 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,479 Speaker 4: put a camera in your stuff, and man, I would 729 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 4: just go dazed. Well, I would just be feeling nauseous, 730 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 4: and I never forget they had they had this drug. 731 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 4: It was called like next him. It was like a 732 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: sample drug. Yeah, it was like a delay. And they 733 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 4: kept giving me that, like these little sample drugs. I 734 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: never I never took them, and they do the they 735 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 4: do the until one day I took one. I felt 736 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 4: good the whole day, you know what I mean. So 737 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 4: then the doctor pushed this. I never forget it. I 738 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 4: never forget. He looked like Obama, bro, doctor did. And 739 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 4: the last thing I remember when he put this thing 740 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 4: in my stomach is me saying, bro, you you look 741 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 4: like Obama. And then I just went to sleep and 742 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 4: I woke up and they had pictures of my stomach 743 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 4: and I had all serves and acid reflux together, and 744 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 4: so I had been drinking a little lean. But after 745 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 4: I get that picture of like this stuff of my 746 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 4: stomach and everything, they telling me that the prescription is 747 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 4: prometheesinge and but they have to give it to me 748 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 4: in a capsule because people are taking advantage of the syrup. Come. 749 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: So I heard that, and then I leave. 750 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: I call on my friends, like bruh, because when you 751 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: get this so with the lean and everything, people don't 752 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 4: know it really coming from like a source like a pharmacy. 753 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 4: It's not like somebody's making it in the tub. It's 754 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 4: just people abused by putting a lot into a drink, 755 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 4: change the color, and then making it so. But it's 756 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 4: really like a medicine. It's for something. It's for something. 757 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: So it's for nausea and some more. That's what it's 758 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 4: really for. 759 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: I don't know this. 760 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 4: I'm just when I drink it, I just I keep 761 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 4: telling people this is no boy, This is no boy. 762 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 4: They used to tell my Rod. Imagine, I feel like 763 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 4: I'm eighteen again. 764 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: I would drink it. 765 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 4: Go on, staye jump up and down, cause you know, 766 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 4: like I'm flying, I'm you know, early on, I'm so busy. 767 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: I'm flying. 768 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 4: I'm doing too maybe two flights a day to go 769 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 4: here here, here, and I'm eating something that I'm not 770 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 4: used to. 771 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 3: My stomach just been super weak. 772 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 4: So then like I feel nausous again, Like so I 773 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 4: need something now, I like keep some zulfron somewhere. You know, 774 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 4: my mama gonna keep some zulpron from me if I 775 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 4: need it. 776 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: Or something like that. But my stomach just been like 777 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: something and it's probably the word. You know why I 778 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: eat so healthy. But you know, early on I was 779 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 3: told I couldn't. I don't. 780 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 4: I don't drink no orange juice. I don't something that's 781 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 4: kind of like, I don't know if you call pineapples. Now, 782 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 4: I can I eat pineapple. I drink pineapple juice, but 783 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 4: like lemonade, none of that. 784 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 3: Man. 785 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 4: I tried Chick fil A lemonade about about ten years ago. Man, 786 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 4: I feel like somebody just felt like I did the 787 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 4: front with flipped Man. 788 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 3: My STUFFA was so stuff like that, I can't eat, 789 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: and then I have to sleep on like. 790 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 4: Two pillars, like can't just be laying flat, you know 791 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 4: what I mean? So I have to keep my head elevated. 792 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: But I hadn't had like a. 793 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 4: Stomach like relapsing long time. And I've been stopped drinking, 794 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 4: like I stopped drinking the third stuff. I think that stuff. 795 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 4: I think the SYRD was giving me like a It 796 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 4: was giving me like a little attitude sometimes. 797 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it had me like a little growling type things. 798 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes would you recognize it or did somebody else said? 799 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 3: Hey, you people will tell me, But I think I 800 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 3: just be irri Yeah, but what you want now? 801 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: Come on her take the picture. But but I hadn't 802 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 4: done nothing like that in a while. I still, you know, 803 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 4: self medicaid with the little things that I do. But ultimately, man, 804 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 4: I'm not even like a really big drinker for real, 805 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 4: I drink. I've been on my wine stuff. I try 806 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 4: a little wine. I take a shot of tequil a 807 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 4: little bit. Then I'd be kind of like I'd be 808 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 4: I'd be like straight, I had enough. 809 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 3: I had enough. So you know, yeah, it was. It 810 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 3: was definitely a trend. But it's something I put the 811 00:39:59,120 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 3: cup down many men. 812 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love that and I'm glad you got 813 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 2: ahead of it because a lot of times people don't. 814 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: Get to see that side of it. Yeah, so that's good. 815 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you healthy, diet, all the things, How 816 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: important you work out? 817 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: How important is maintaining that wellness a part of your 818 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: life to do what you do at the level you 819 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: do it at. 820 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 3: I feel like entertainment is a what we do is 821 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 3: really like another form of sports. 822 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: It really I'd be telling people that all the time. 823 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: I was a competition cheerleader, and a lot of the 824 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 2: same structure and the discipline that I use in sports 825 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 2: like I use it now. 826 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 4: It's like sports. But you can't just not giving them 827 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 4: about what you put in and think you finish. Go 828 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 4: on stage to perform for an hour, and you'd be 829 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 4: seeing people pass out and all, Like I do it 830 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 4: show for I don't even drink water. I only like 831 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 4: for the fan, even think I'm like them anywhere near 832 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 4: like a human like them. Like I'm up there for hour, 833 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,919 Speaker 4: They're not sweating, really leaving myself and saying that great 834 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 4: shap what else you guys ain't up there all? 835 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 3: What else? Gods you you know, trying to whole body 836 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 3: moving talking to the crowd. You just so I ain't 837 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: on that. So I take it very. 838 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 4: Seriously about like how I condition myself because I feel 839 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 4: like it's just gonna be up all night. I'm gonna record. 840 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 4: I'm I gotta be able to like I mean, you 841 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 4: know I do. I might sound stretching everything. 842 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: That's not crazy, especially we have to, Yeah, that's important. 843 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 4: Especially, Yeah, we we in our fortiest stretching before I go. Man, 844 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: got everybody look man howl on the stage. 845 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 3: Let me get that. 846 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Because I ain't gonna sit 847 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 4: in one spot. Yes, you know what I mean, And 848 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: I ain't no telling them what I might do once 849 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 4: I get up there. That's where I get the holy ghost. 850 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 3: So you want to be like I be ready, man. 851 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: I love that you talk about in your book how 852 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 2: substances can also mute your inner voice. 853 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that because a lot of times people 854 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: feel like I'm in control, I got it, I know 855 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. But what is that muting? How do 856 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: you know, like when that's coming in. 857 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 4: Anytime, when fear show up, you're gonna be just straight 858 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 4: off you. When fear ego, Ah, that's you. Oh, that's you. 859 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 3: But sometimes you gotta have it. 860 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, in our and our feel of work, I think 861 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 4: sometimes not to say that you should just be on 862 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 4: set like you know, a diva or beyond stage like 863 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 4: a d but I. 864 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 3: Think a little piece of ego not bad. The fear stuff, 865 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: fear stuff. 866 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 4: Trust issues is another part of like the feel we 867 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 4: in you kind of gotta be scared of these folks 868 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 4: will do all, especially men, especially the men. It's like 869 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 4: I have mastered my little side hug all that. 870 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 3: It's just like. 871 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 4: You know, so yeah, you know, sometimes it ain't no voice. 872 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,919 Speaker 4: And when you get to just being in your head 873 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 4: so much about this, you're just really going off your 874 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 4: own and that's normal. It's normal to fears are real emotion. 875 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: No, for sure. 876 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: One of the most moving parts that I loved about 877 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: your book was your father and the eagle metaphor and 878 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 2: being a father and letting your child fly. We talked 879 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 2: about your daughter, you're about to let her fly going 880 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: to college, but how do you use that metaphor with 881 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 2: your children now? 882 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: It was very interesting. I read that. First of all, 883 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 3: I let it was like from two thousand and three. 884 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: Really yeah. 885 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 4: When I was working on the book, is like it 886 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 4: opened up a portal. Well, I was just fine and stuff. 887 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 4: It was like, I can add this to the book. 888 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 4: But I went back. It was these letters from two 889 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 4: thousand and three. My father birthdays on Christmas, so this 890 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 4: was around Thanksgiving. It was just it was like all 891 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 4: these letters from like the end of two thousand and three. 892 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 4: I'm talking about football, and he started putting these analogies 893 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 4: in here, and he's telling me, you know, I tell 894 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 4: you what you know, you can you can call me 895 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 4: this Like it was just like, first of all, he's 896 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 4: so sarcastic. I don't know if he's serious or not. 897 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I don't I don't know. He talking 898 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 4: about Yeah, we the Eagles, man, you know, we saw 899 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 4: I'm Bill Eagle. And then he's telling me like you're 900 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 4: this you know what matter? 901 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 3: Fat? You call me Bill? And I'm like, what that? 902 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 4: But you know, two thousand and three, it was you 903 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 4: know over, you know, twenty years ago. So I was 904 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: at a different place mentioning everything. I'm way more mature 905 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 4: and ain't even looking at his letters and seeing God 906 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 4: is Love on the back of the envelope. I used 907 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 4: to just rip him and get to the letter. I 908 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,359 Speaker 4: ain't even paying no attention to the God. It's love 909 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 4: that's written on the outside. But then I thought about 910 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 4: what that meant, and it was just right in my 911 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 4: face the whole time. It was just saying like God 912 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 4: is like love. It was like, what is God's like, 913 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 4: It's like love? 914 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 3: Like oh, and then like oh. 915 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yo God, cause he ain't gonna mess with no 916 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 4: hate stuff like. But yeah, So that's my personal opinion. 917 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 4: So that's what I thought it, man. And it took 918 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 4: me this long and some old letters defined to put 919 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 4: that together to really hit it, like, because it just 920 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 4: sounded like a frank God is love, God is God 921 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 4: is dope, shout out my home like, God is this. 922 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 3: Oh no, So that's what I took from him. 923 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: I love that. 924 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: So another thing I wanted to ask you about is 925 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 2: you're saying like you're going through these letters, you're finding 926 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: all these things. 927 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: It's been there the whole time. 928 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: And you also talk about at the end people say 929 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: I might need he might need therapy. After writing the book, 930 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 2: you said it was therapeutic for you. 931 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 3: This is my first therapist, man, this book? 932 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: Yes, Now are you open to it? 933 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 934 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 4: Because music is very therapeutic. And then I did a 935 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 4: short film called Red Clay. So this might be my 936 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 4: third therapist. Let me refrain, this is my let me 937 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 4: rephrase it. This is my third therapist. Music was my first. 938 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,959 Speaker 4: It's just and then I did a short film called 939 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 4: Red Clay that it just took a lot. And then 940 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 4: this book is my third therapist. And they all different people. 941 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 4: They are It's not like my third time going to therapist. 942 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 4: This is my third therapist. 943 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: Right, that's fire. 944 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 3: I love that. 945 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: Are you open to therapy? Do you feel like you're good? 946 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 3: I've been going back and forth. I don't know. 947 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 4: I'm still like old fashioned. Don't want nobody to take 948 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 4: my little edge off. I want to be the crazy 949 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 4: old man still. You know you everybody got them in 950 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 4: the family. 951 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, you need that energy, bro, 952 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 3: somebody to do it. 953 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 4: In my mind and I know this probably sounds crazy, 954 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 4: I hope the therapist really helps me DM me and 955 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 4: be like it's not like in my mind, I feel 956 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 4: like I'm gonna come out of therapist and be like, 957 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 4: it's okay, you got it, you want it's okay. 958 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 3: No, you know what life is viewed like, God is, 959 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 3: God is loved y'all. Just keep no no brother, brother. 960 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 3: But I don't want to. 961 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 4: I be wanting a little edge on me, just a 962 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 4: little bit bit. Yeah, And I just don't want them 963 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 4: to be like, we're going to fix this. The reason 964 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 4: you have this and what I do have a psychology degree, right, 965 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 4: so okay I do. Or I have identified some of 966 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 4: my triggers personally through self evaluation. 967 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: That's good. 968 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 4: I could tell when something like you know what I mean, 969 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 4: and it could be some small stuff, but I could 970 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 4: tell like if it's done it, if it's happened to me. 971 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 3: More than once. 972 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,719 Speaker 4: I'm like this this kind of triggers me. Yeah, And 973 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 4: I can identify with some of them, and I'm trying 974 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 4: to work on that. 975 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 3: That's good. 976 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: That's good because some people can't even identify. 977 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta know what make you turn up, and 978 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: you gotta know. 979 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta know. And you also you gotta know yourself. 980 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 3: You say that. 981 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 2: So this season for Keep Pot Sweety, our theme is unapologetic. 982 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 2: What is to chains being apologetic about right now? 983 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 3: In this season? Apologetic? 984 00:47:50,680 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 4: UNAPOLOGI unapologetic, unapologetic. I'm not I'm unapologetic about I'm not 985 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 4: apologizing for that parking spot where I park for the Hawks. 986 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 4: Sometimes I be taking up a couple of spots. I'm 987 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 4: not apologizing for that. I'm parking right when you be 988 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 4: seeing me right there. I don't know why they hit me, 989 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 4: but I know you can relate because you see me. 990 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm back in there and they have changed up, 991 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 4: and I man, y'all, they whoever coming, they're gonna be 992 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 4: out of luck. So I'm not apologizing for that. I'm 993 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 4: a real Atlanta lative. I'm a fan and I literally 994 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 4: have to pay for my tickets. Yes, y'all, I'm not 995 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 4: apologizing for that. I'm not apologizing for. 996 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 3: Saying no. 997 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you know you be like man, I'm sorry, man, 998 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 4: but I can't do it. Man, I just ain't gonna 999 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,959 Speaker 4: do it, like that's that's what And I ain't gonna 1000 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 4: say like, I'm working on this. I'm working on saying 1001 00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 4: no without apologizing or giving context on why I can't 1002 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 4: do because I found myself explaining, Man, I got to 1003 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 4: do Man, I. 1004 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: Got to do all that when I'm like, so that's real. 1005 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. 1006 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 2: Speaking of Hawk Tickets, you are also a big investor 1007 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 2: you have I just saw something where you invested in SpaceX. 1008 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 2: You have ownership and is it Scott Hawk's g league? 1009 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 2: What made you like I want to start investing in 1010 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 2: these different things because I was like, wow, I had 1011 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: no idea. 1012 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: You are a myth. There's so many different things that 1013 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: we don't know about you. 1014 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 4: Coming from hustling, that's what. That's what hustling. You buy 1015 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 4: this pack, you make more off of it. You put 1016 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 4: this to the side, you buy, you make more. It 1017 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 4: sounds like people, just a lot of people only get 1018 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 4: caught up. 1019 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: With like. 1020 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 4: What it's doing to the community, which I definitely understand 1021 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 4: as a list really an extension of a business man. 1022 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 4: You meet somebody, you create a relationship, with them. 1023 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 3: You have a. 1024 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 4: Clientele, audience, fans, whatever you want to call it. Direct 1025 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 4: to consumer. Been doing that, you know, been doing direct 1026 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 4: to consumer, and then you got to have you know, 1027 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 4: you you got to go out, You got to meet people, 1028 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 4: You gotta develop, you know, that trust thing. And you know, 1029 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,479 Speaker 4: and now when I grow up, I'm not I can't. 1030 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 4: I don't want to buy a pack or something and selling. 1031 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 3: Now I'm just then investing in. 1032 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 4: Properties and things like that, and then also being in 1033 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 4: the right rooms and I don't know, maybe getting the 1034 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 4: trust of people who who are looking to invest in 1035 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 4: you know, I believe, I believe. 1036 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 3: Man, it's trees or dollars like that. 1037 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 4: It's just that junt just it is looking for somebody. 1038 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 4: It's looking for people, you know what I mean, being 1039 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 4: in the house that it ain't gonna find you. So 1040 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 4: for me, I'm in the room now. I'm not just 1041 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 4: hopping from you know, brunch to brunch, but I'm in 1042 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 4: the right rooms and and I'm me, you know what 1043 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 4: I mean. I think it's very important that I'm transparent 1044 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 4: and I'm me and they like you know, I like you. 1045 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 4: When they say they like me, anybody say they like me, 1046 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 4: I know they not they liking a real version of 1047 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 4: me because I'm not putting that on, you know, like 1048 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 4: they like I like you, like I'm gonna have to 1049 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,320 Speaker 4: keep this personality. I have to remember what personalities is 1050 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 4: because somebody said, you know, man, it's just you know, 1051 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 4: I like you, and it's just it's genuine. 1052 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: That's who you are. I love that to change. Thank 1053 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: you so much. Absolutely. 1054 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,279 Speaker 2: Enclosing, we do what is called positive outcomes, where our 1055 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 2: audience writes in we give them advice. 1056 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: This is a quick one. 1057 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 2: Her name is Natina Chapman from Charlotte, North Carolina. She says, 1058 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 2: how do you chase big goals and success without losing 1059 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 2: your peace in the process. 1060 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 4: I'm a dreamer. Yeah, to this day, I'm a dreamer 1061 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 4: and I'm not content. And it's okay to be content. 1062 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 4: Like if you finally get your house and your dog whatever, 1063 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 4: and you're like, this is what this is all I wanted. 1064 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 3: That's cool. 1065 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 4: My vision exceeds that, Like my vision exceeds a glass ceiling. 1066 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 4: I just right now with the stuff I have and 1067 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 4: the car whatever whatever. It's not like I want more 1068 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 4: cars and I just want more life. I want more 1069 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 4: of something, you know. 1070 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 3: What I mean. 1071 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 4: I don't know what's around the corner the west side there, 1072 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 4: but I do seek and I put that enji out there. 1073 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 4: I still I'm still fishing for more success, more opportunity, 1074 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 4: you know. 1075 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, And for me, I would say, Natina, if it 1076 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 2: is like something that is for you, it's not gonna 1077 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 2: You're not gonna lose your piece over it. 1078 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna feed it. 1079 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 3: You know. 1080 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 2: I feel like anything that caused you to lose your 1081 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 2: piece isn't something you should be chasing after anyway. 1082 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 3: Facts, I like that look at you. 1083 00:52:52,400 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: You know, I give a little bit. Thank you so much. 1084 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 1: This has been amazing. I appreciate your time. Guys, make 1085 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 1: sure you get this book right now. Listen, get into it. Sweeze. 1086 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 2: You already know we're about to buy all of the coffees. 1087 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna make this a New York Times bestseller. Please 1088 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 2: to change you that you're gonna. 1089 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: Do another book? 1090 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 3: Please and think am I gonna do another book? 1091 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,439 Speaker 1: Just the first of many? 1092 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 3: Who never say never, never say never? I love it. 1093 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 1: I could also see like a biopic movie. 1094 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 4: Listen, guess what I'm gonna do. Guess what I'm gonna do. 1095 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 4: This is gonna really throw you out, throw you off. 1096 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 4: But you got to know that this is this is 1097 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 4: a great idea that I'm trying to put into fruition 1098 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 4: right now. 1099 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I want to do a play. 1100 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 4: And the name of the play is something told me 1101 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 4: and it's off chapters of the book. And I already 1102 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 4: got in my head how I wanted to start and everything, 1103 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 4: so we may have to I know, you know people, 1104 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 4: I know you be in the room and you know people. Yes, 1105 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 4: but I'm very serious about it, and like that's some 1106 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 4: two chain stuff, like you know, we're gonna dress up. 1107 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 3: Wine and a real play that has like production. 1108 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,880 Speaker 4: And like like the way that I'm the way that 1109 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 4: because I did, like for my maybe what anniversary for 1110 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 4: True Religion made my tenure anniversary for True Religion? I 1111 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 4: incorporated the play within the show like it was like 1112 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 4: a player. I had somebody playing my mom, me, me, 1113 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 4: the whole thing, wearing true religions, the whole. 1114 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 3: Thing, and just how that went. And it was like, okay, 1115 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 3: stage play, this could be something for me. 1116 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 4: But then, like even sitting here with you, I was 1117 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 4: not gonna mention it and we were just about to 1118 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,800 Speaker 4: get off, and then you said this could be the 1119 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 4: bio And I'm like, short, if you only knew what 1120 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about doing and taking it up or not. 1121 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,479 Speaker 4: So yeah, Like I just want people to just really 1122 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 4: know that when it's time you get that invite on 1123 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 4: putting on something clean, then I'm gonna have a real 1124 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 4: experience for you. 1125 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a real experience and it's. 1126 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,800 Speaker 4: Gonna be something that people are gonna talk about for 1127 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 4: years after that, for real, like this idea I'm talking about. 1128 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 3: Like yeah, but here in the city, yes, oh. 1129 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 1: Fox Theater, that's what. Okay, listen, the voice in my 1130 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: head was just got he said that. 1131 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 4: I said Fox though, that's crazy, all right, And this 1132 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 4: is the last thing I'm put out there. Okay, I 1133 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 4: want Terrence Howard to play my Pops. I gotta talk 1134 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 4: loud so that they can he can hear it. Yes, 1135 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 4: put it out there so he can hear it. 1136 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 3: Because my dad was. 1137 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 4: A little red, a little red like that. He's just 1138 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 4: like a little red, you know what I'm saying. But 1139 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 4: even the way his voice is and all that, he 1140 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 4: can really like he can make it happen. But like 1141 00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 4: imagine Terrence Howard doing a play. I ain't talking about 1142 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,359 Speaker 4: for them. I'm to my own stage doing like that. Yeah, 1143 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 4: so that's how my mind works. 1144 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,759 Speaker 2: You have a brilliant mind, and I cannot wait. That's 1145 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 2: gonna be crazy. We're gonna be front row and center. 1146 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 3: I'm gonna beat to use this for like some type 1147 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 3: of archave. 1148 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 4: We're gonna better to go back and like it's some 1149 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 4: things happen sooner than others and maybe later, but it's 1150 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 4: something like when I really put my mind to it, 1151 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 4: like I'm. 1152 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,040 Speaker 3: Gonna make it happen. 1153 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get sure even if it's not, Like I 1154 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,239 Speaker 4: ain't even gonna say, don't say all right, let's let's 1155 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 4: do it. 1156 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's get out of here, y'all. 1157 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: Yes we are Wow. 1158 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 2: What I appreciate most about this episode is a reminder 1159 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 2: that growth doesn't always come from the loudest moments in 1160 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 2: our lives. 1161 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 1: Sometimes it comes from learning. 1162 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 2: How to be still enough to hear the inner voice 1163 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 2: guiding us to change. Thank you for sharing your story, 1164 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 2: your wisdom, and this moment with us today. Sometimes the 1165 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 2: most powerful thing we can do is simply listen to 1166 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 2: that voice within and trust that it's already leading us 1167 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 2: exactly where We're meant to Go. Thank you for tuning 1168 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 2: to another episode of the Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. 1169 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 2: Be sure to grab your copy of the Voice in 1170 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 2: My Head Is God wherever books is sold. 1171 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,280 Speaker 1: Please download the season ten. 1172 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 2: kIPS reflection Guide to store all gems dropped today for 1173 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 2: free at Chris Ferne hazlet dot com. Be sure to subscribe, 1174 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 2: share this episode with someone who needs it, and if 1175 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 2: you ever need advice, positivity, or just want to share 1176 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 2: something you're going through, email us at Keep It Positive 1177 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 2: Outcomes at gmail dot com. As always, stay blessed saying 1178 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 2: courage and keep it Positivity. 1179 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys next time.