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Speaker 1: Did you hear Did you see some of these nominations? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, uh, D Smoke with Black Habits, Alfredo, Freddy Gibson,

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Speaker 1: out based off that category, A Little Baby definitely should

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Speaker 1: So NAS should definitely went out this year best Rap Song,

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Speaker 1: You think Savage. I think Savage wins that or the

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Speaker 1: Bigger Picture. UM, I don't know what the metrics started.

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Speaker 1: I don't be honest with you. I don't care. Like

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I see everybody getting upset about

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Speaker 1: the Grammys, and I'm like, YEO, who cares with them?

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Speaker 1: Coltur really clueless white people think? You know, if I

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Speaker 1: had to pick a song my personal favorite out of

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Speaker 1: that bunch of probably would be bigger. Picture rock Star

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Speaker 1: is a bigger record though rock I'm just like you know,

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Speaker 1: Savages Savage was huge as Biggs rock Star though. See,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what the metrics.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the metrics are. I don't know. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Weekend tweeted out yesterday the Grammys remain corrupt. You

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Speaker 1: owe me my fans in the industry transparent. Yeah, listen,

433
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Speaker 1: the Weekend definitely got robbed because you know, the Grammys.

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Speaker 1: I don't look for them the hip hop. Look for

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Speaker 1: them for hip hop, right, but I definitely look for

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Speaker 1: them for I guess the R and B pop stuff.

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Speaker 1: The Blinding Lights was the biggest record of yet, right yes,

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Speaker 1: well by by whatever metric you can measure, and Heartless

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Speaker 1: another big song on the album, really well well album

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Speaker 1: of the year. They put Taylor Swift post Malone too much.

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Speaker 1: God damn man ain't already I like to drop black poomas?

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Speaker 1: What black poomas? I don't know? Cold Play? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Jacob call Yeah, that's y h A, I M. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what that is. Drum and do a leap?

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Speaker 1: Do you this and they got Jenneico and what album

446
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Speaker 1: of the year. All right, give the Jaico. Don't know

447
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Speaker 1: nothing else. She's a person of color. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: All right, well that is your rumor report. We don't

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Speaker 1: know where he is. Uh, Like we said, Oprah has

450
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Speaker 1: the dope technology where she could look like her and

451
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Speaker 1: Barrock are in the same room. We don't even have

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Speaker 1: enough technology to get Angela then, but we were in

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Speaker 1: the same room and President Barack Oba, he definitely we

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Speaker 1: went down to DC to have the conversation. So that

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Speaker 1: conversation will be coming on shortly, all right, So keep

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Speaker 1: it lockedice to Breakfast Club coming morning. Everybody is DJ

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Speaker 1: Envy Angela Ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast's happening. Listen.

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Speaker 1: We're only here, okay, listen next next to some of

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Speaker 1: the six Crap Sunday years a Sunday. I believe that

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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club has been on the air and for

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Speaker 1: the past ten years, during this week of this white

462
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Speaker 1: Man's holiday, we never are here, right right, take vacation

463
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Speaker 1: always and where we've been, we've taken vacation all week.

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Speaker 1: Just Monday we had to fly down the DC. We

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Speaker 1: will summoned because the forty fourth president of the United

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Speaker 1: States of America has a book out called a Promise Lane,

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Speaker 1: and he wanted to do the breakfast club. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we don't have the fancy technology that Oprah has. We we

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Speaker 1: we had to go down there all right, COVID tests,

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Speaker 1: We socially distanced, and we had a great conversation. The

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Speaker 1: only reason we're here today is because this conversation is airing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in a few minutes. Yeah, we all went went down

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Speaker 1: to a hotel in DC and it was it was

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Speaker 1: it was dope. I didn't know what to expect, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's when when he walked in, it felt like he

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Speaker 1: was one of our brothers, just one of the I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say, one of the homies, but he

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Speaker 1: just seems so cool, so relaxed, so inviting. So just

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Speaker 1: felt like a don't I don't know how to still

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Speaker 1: a politicians, still a politician, but it felt like a

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Speaker 1: thing's given dinner way. He was just cool, like on

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Speaker 1: some cool. I ain't gonna say all that I have

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Speaker 1: still a politician, So what does that mean he can't

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Speaker 1: be cool being a politician. It was definitely cool. I

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Speaker 1: mess some asses politician that was assholes, you know really yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh names some names name. I mean, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: certain level of it's a certain level of full of

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Speaker 1: you have to be in order to be a politician though,

489
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Speaker 1: because you're always on right, like, you can't always be happy, correct,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You got to tell people

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Speaker 1: what he was real about things though, and he was

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Speaker 1: definitely very transparent in the book, very transparent in the book.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we'll talk to President Barack Obama when

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Speaker 1: we come back. Keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy

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Speaker 1: and Jula Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

497
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Speaker 1: And this is what we do. Every time you were

498
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Speaker 1: talking nice and level. This is how we talk every day,

499
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't coming in high and now you are well,

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Speaker 1: now we are. We have a special guest. He served

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Speaker 1: eight years as the forty fourth President of the United States.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, President Barack Obama. Never heard of him,

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Speaker 1: never heard of him. You know what I heard of y'all.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate you guys having me. It's wonderful to

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Speaker 1: see you again. Thank you for being in Thank you. Now,

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Speaker 1: we don't have much time, so let's get right into

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Speaker 1: us A promised Land. Why is that the title for

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Speaker 1: your book? When I think about America, I think about

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Speaker 1: both where we've been, where we might be going. I'm

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Speaker 1: reminded of doctor King's speech, famous speech he gave shortly

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Speaker 1: before he got shot, about I might not get there

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Speaker 1: with you, but I've been at the mountain top and

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Speaker 1: I see the promised land, and I think that that

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Speaker 1: idea that we're not where we need to be, but

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Speaker 1: we still act on the faith and the belief that

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Speaker 1: we can get there. That's how I think about America.

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Speaker 1: That's how I think about my own political journey. That's

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Speaker 1: not one where it's ever gonna be finished. It's not

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Speaker 1: one where racism is gone or inequality is gone, but

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Speaker 1: what we can continually try to do better. That was

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Speaker 1: the spirit that I wanted to communicate. You're say in

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Speaker 1: the prefaith that America's ideals have always been secondary to

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Speaker 1: conquest and subjugation, a racial cast instiment, that to pretend

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Speaker 1: otherwise is to be complicit in a game that was

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Speaker 1: rigged from the start. So my question is, if the

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Speaker 1: game is rigged and we know to fight is fixed.

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Speaker 1: How could black people ever believe in this idea of

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Speaker 1: America being a promised the land. That's one argument, and

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Speaker 1: that's how some people feel. And obviously there's evidence of that, slavery,

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Speaker 1: Jim Crow, Native Americans being driven from their lands. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, what we also have stories of is

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Speaker 1: abolition and civil rights movement and folks fighting for their

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Speaker 1: freedom and generation passing on a legacy of struggle that

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Speaker 1: results in something a little bit better. What I try

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Speaker 1: to do book as a whole is paying an honest

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Speaker 1: picture about how there's a gap between the myth of

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Speaker 1: America and the reality of America. Will never completely close

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Speaker 1: that gap, but if we in the effort, if we

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Speaker 1: stay focused, reach out, then we can get closer to

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Speaker 1: the ideal. You know, one of the lessons I try

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Speaker 1: to teach in the book about politics is it's never

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Speaker 1: going to be perfect. We live in a big country

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Speaker 1: with a lot of different points of view. We've got

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Speaker 1: hundreds of years of oppression and discrimination that have to

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Speaker 1: be overcome. We've got, you know, the natural human impulses

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Speaker 1: that you see around the world, Greed, power, you know,

547
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Speaker 1: folks trying to get over on others. But you also

548
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Speaker 1: see kindness, courage, folks looking out for each other, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of goodness along with the bad. And in politics,

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Speaker 1: the job is not to think that you're ever going

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Speaker 1: to eliminate all the bad. It can can you empower

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Speaker 1: the good to make more kids get a better education,

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Speaker 1: to make sure that some folks have better healthcare, to

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Speaker 1: make sure that you know, there's less discrimination, and that

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Speaker 1: the police are more accountable. And if you if you

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Speaker 1: do that and you stick with it. Yeah, the distance

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Speaker 1: that we've traveled, let's say, just in my lifetime. We

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Speaker 1: were talking before we got on the air. I'm fifty nine.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel old. And in you know, human history,

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Speaker 1: fifty nine years is a blink of the eye. None

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Speaker 1: of us would have been sitting here fifty nine years ago.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't imagine, you know, you guys having your own

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Speaker 1: show that you control and that you produce. And I

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Speaker 1: couldn't imagine being a former president and having a best

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Speaker 1: selling book that just wasn't in the cards. And that

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Speaker 1: was just you know, in my lifetime. And so we

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Speaker 1: can imagine if we keep working that maybe our kids,

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Speaker 1: certainly our grandkids, if we do it right, they're going

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Speaker 1: to be that much more ahead of the game now.

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Speaker 1: But you know, one thing we always have to remember

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Speaker 1: is history doesn't just go forward, it can go backwards too,

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Speaker 1: and if we're not vigilant, things can get worse. President Obama,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you something about revend Jeremiah Right

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Speaker 1: from in your book, because you've addressed it, Michelle Obama

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Speaker 1: has addressed it. Do you think that in today's climate,

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Speaker 1: the comments and the speeches that Jeremiah Right gave would

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Speaker 1: still be looked at the same way where you would

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Speaker 1: have had to distance it yourself from him today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's Look, it's an interesting thing. As I

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Speaker 1: write about in the book. You know, Reverend Right as

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Speaker 1: an example of somebody who supremely gifted Preacher Trinity United

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Speaker 1: Church of Christ on South Side Chicago had amazing ministry

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Speaker 1: still does. I was very close to a lot of

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Speaker 1: people in that congregation as well as Reverend Right. In

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Speaker 1: national politics, if you can take out a bunch of

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Speaker 1: sound bites that say Goddamn America, even if the context

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Speaker 1: of it is prophetic and biblical, and he's trying to

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Speaker 1: describe how somebody might feel he wasn't promoting the notion

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Speaker 1: that God was damning America. He was making the point

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Speaker 1: that if you looked at slavery and discrimination, you could

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Speaker 1: see the conclusion of people feeling that there was not

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Speaker 1: an alignment with Christian values and America. But if you'd

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Speaker 1: see it a two minute sound bite trying to explain

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Speaker 1: that is too complicated. In my campaign, I had to

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Speaker 1: constantly manage the fact that truths that black folks experience

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Speaker 1: on a day to day basis are not going to

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Speaker 1: be the same as the truths that the country as

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Speaker 1: a whole experience. But if you want to operate at

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Speaker 1: the highest level of politics, you have to be able

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Speaker 1: to communicate and translate for the country as a whole.

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Speaker 1: And there were times where I was surprised by the

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Speaker 1: reaction of folks, generally white voters, to certain things that

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Speaker 1: to me didn't seem like it was something they should

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Speaker 1: be surprised or upset about. And I suspect attitudes would

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Speaker 1: probably be a little bit different now. And I give

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Speaker 1: to give one example that I use in the book,

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Speaker 1: when Professor Skip Gates gets arrested in his own house.

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Speaker 1: I write about the fact that in a press conference

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Speaker 1: I'm asked about it and I said, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the police probably acted stupidly and arresting you know,

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Speaker 1: sixty year old professor who's got a lame leg in

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Speaker 1: his own house after he shown them ideas. Even if

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Speaker 1: he cussed out the police, all they have to do

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Speaker 1: is just leave right and was treated with all kinds

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Speaker 1: of controversy, And my polling with white voters dropped drastically

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Speaker 1: because the notion is somehow I was insulting the police.

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Speaker 1: I think today, in light of everything that's happened and

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Speaker 1: part of what happened this summer terms of raising awareness

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Speaker 1: of potential bias in the criminal justice system, I suspect

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Speaker 1: that that would not have seemed as much of a

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Speaker 1: controversial statement as it was viewed at the time, even

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Speaker 1: though at the time I didn't think it was particularly controversial.

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Speaker 1: You talk about that in a Good Fight chapter Henry

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Speaker 1: Lewis gets Gate situation, but you also say that wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have happened to a white person in the same situation.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time you say you wish you

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Speaker 1: had have said that then, which you didn't. So we

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Speaker 1: bite our tongue in situations like that, who were trying

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Speaker 1: to protect one of the things that you that I

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Speaker 1: try to communicate in this book is what's the best

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Speaker 1: way to expand folks understanding right where where do you

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Speaker 1: see teachable moments? And there have been times where, for example,

633
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: the tragedy in Charleston, when Pickney and others who are

634
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: praying and invited a young white man into pray with them,

635
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: he then shoots them. He's obviously his head's been filled

636
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: up with racist ideology. That was a teachable moment where

637
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: I could say some things that I might not have

638
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: said in another context, you know. And part of what

639
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: I also try to describe in the book is the

640
00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: fact that the prophetic voice that you have if you

641
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: are a civil rights leader, if you're a Malcolm, if

642
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: you're a Martin, is not going to be the same

643
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: voice as if you're a politician, Because politicians, the whole

644
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: thing is, I've got to figure out how do I

645
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: get this white senator from this conservative state to maybe

646
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: support this bill. That's different from me teaching as a

647
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: civil rights leader or a movement leader, and each each

648
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: of us have different roles to play in that process.

649
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that you know, as as

650
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: as one of my I think staff people I write

651
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: about in the book, when I'm running, he says, you know,

652
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: white folks, they notice you don't look like the other

653
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: forty two folks that have been president. They're noticing this

654
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: is already a radical break for them. And you know,

655
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: in the same way that Jackie Robinson, there were times

656
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: where if he hadn't been the first, he would have

657
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: whooped on somebody who's coming in, sliding with spikes at

658
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: him or otherwise trying to injure him. But he recognized,

659
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: all right, there's some things that right now I'm gonna

660
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: be more diplomatic about that. Maybe the next African American

661
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: president will not have to be I think those are

662
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: the kinds of things that you're constantly having a measure

663
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: and make decisions about. One thing I love about the book,

664
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: President Obama, is you talk about your relationship with your wife,

665
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: and you talk about how your wife is the boss

666
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: and you're scared of him. You also talk about how

667
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: every decision has to be approved by your wife. You know,

668
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: one thing that I love about the book is everybody

669
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: talks about relationships and sometimes things seem perfect, but in

670
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: your book you show that things aren't perfect. You know,

671
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: I've been married in nineteen years. So when you talk

672
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: about your wife and you talk about how hard it

673
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: was and how she didn't want you to run, how

674
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: bad did it get in the household? Did it ever

675
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: get to the point where it was like, you know what,

676
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: maybe this is not going to work for us? Or

677
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: is that never an option when it came to a relationship.

678
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I think I think there were times where certainly she

679
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: thought this wasn't gonna work. Michelle is somebody who has

680
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: a different temperament than me, and I think she'd admit

681
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: that she has more of a temper than I does

682
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: than I do. I think she can get more pessimistic

683
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: sometimes about things than I can. I tend to be

684
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: pretty even killed. Yeah, I we'll figure this out kind

685
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: of approach. But as I write about in the book,

686
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: sometimes that's that itself is frustrating to your partner. Right

687
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: if you're all like, hey, honey, relax, why are you

688
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: getting so excited about stuff? You know? Then she'll be like, oh,

689
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: you're just not listening to me at all, Right, And

690
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: I know I listened to you. I'm I'm just saying,

691
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: you know, it's not so bad. Well, what do you

692
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: think I'm overreacting? Is that what you're saying, all right,

693
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: and then you I mean, you're in that pattern. So

694
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that there were periods, there were episodes

695
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: where she was questioning whether the life that I had

696
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: charted for us was compatible with what she wanted out

697
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: of life. You know, she you know, Michelle once told

698
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: me something that I think summed it up pretty well.

699
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: She said, I have organized my life not to have

700
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: a lot of mess in my life, and politics, by definition,

701
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: brings mess into our household. You've got people that I

702
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: would never associate with otherwise who now suddenly are talking

703
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: about us or you know, have impact on our well being,

704
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: and I don't. That's not what I want. And I

705
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: understood that. And the sacrifice she made is one that

706
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, I've had to work off, you know, the

707
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: like I I've been. My debt has been it's almost

708
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: like a payday loan, you know, it just keeps on.

709
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: The interest was high. How did you get over it?

710
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Was it therapy? Was it friends? Was it reverence? Was

711
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: it church? Was it prayer? When the terms were over? Well?

712
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: I think all of the above. Yeah. Michelle talked to

713
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: right writes about the fact that we went to counseling

714
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: pre presidency, and that was when the kids were small.

715
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: And I think anybody who's had small kids, you know,

716
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: that's always a strain. You know, as much joy as

717
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: they bring, there is that tension, especially if both uh

718
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: bouses are working right. Um. And during the White House. Look,

719
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: I give a lot of credit to my mother in

720
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: law because Miss Marian, you know, she would Michelle be hot.

721
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: You know, she'd go upstairs. My mother in law was

722
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: living on the in the suite and on the third floor,

723
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: and Michelle to go up there. And I'm pretty sure

724
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: she talked Michelle down a couple of times. UM. Friends,

725
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: one thing we Michelle and I both tell younger couples,

726
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, who are going through rough patches. Um. I

727
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: think we were pretty good about the fact that even

728
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: when things were tough, we never lost basic respect for

729
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: the other person. We never thought that that person was

730
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: a bad person. We never sent things that would make

731
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: it seem as if, oh, you just completely disrespect me.

732
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: It was more, look, I love you, Barrock, but you

733
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: know this is driving me crazy, or you know how

734
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: much I respect you, but so so. I think that

735
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: is part of what kept us able to sort this out.

736
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: Because we never doubted each other's intentions. And the basic

737
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: fact that you know, my view of Michelle is she

738
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: is a remarkable woman, even you know, if she driving

739
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: me crazy sometimes, I never thought that there was anybody

740
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: who I would rather be with, No being that you're

741
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: so even killed, right, did you ever take your frustrations

742
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: from work home? And did you ever do anything like

743
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: punch a wall or what did you do when you

744
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: got mad? You know? I had there were times where

745
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: I would have a potty mouth in the Oval office,

746
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: but we heard some of that, which I appreciate it

747
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: because well, I mean, I think it's I think it's

748
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: important to be honest, because part of what I try

749
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: to describe in the book is the White House, you know,

750
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: and the presidency. Look, you're the leader of the free world.

751
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: Is the most powerful office owner. But it's also a job,

752
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: and the West Wing is also an office, and you're

753
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: going to have some of the same frustrations and mistakes

754
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: and doubts and mishaps as in any office, in any job,

755
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: which also means sometimes you don't cuss a little bit

756
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: because because stuff's frustrating. Um, working out was important, you know,

757
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: we get those workouts in sometimes, uh, you know, dear

758
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: friend of ours who who was also a trainer, Cornell McClellan,

759
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: we would get the boxing gloves out and didn't seem

760
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: too fullness. A lot of old people in the White House.

761
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: You can't just say, let's play a pickup game. Those

762
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: guys pass out now. I had my weekend game though

763
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: with Reggie love Right who you know on Reggie at

764
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: that time was you know, probably he just turned thirty.

765
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: He wasn't posting up Joe Biden, and so no, we

766
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 1: could we couldn't play. We couldn't play in the White House.

767
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: We had a we had a regular game. Reggie had

768
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: his crew and so we had regular basketball games. You

769
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: know a lot of times though, you know, you would

770
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: just try to take the long view in dealing with frustrations.

771
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: If Mitch McConnell and the Republicans were blocking something for

772
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: no reason, if they were playing games that actually had

773
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: real consequences in terms of people being able to get

774
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: healthcare or be able to get some relief from unemployment

775
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: or what have you. You know, you just had to

776
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: remind yourself that you were in a long term contest

777
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: and there were going to be ups and downs. At

778
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: any given time, but that if you kept your eye

779
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: on the ball, that you know, sooner or later you

780
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: can prepare. You know. In the Yes we Can chapter,

781
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: you discuss how you were frustrated with the constant need

782
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: to soften for white folks benefit the blunt truths about

783
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: racing this country. Do you still feel the need to

784
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 1: do that after the last four years? We wouldness? Well,

785
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: I think we're all a little bit more open and aware.

786
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I was really inspired

787
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: by in the wake of tragedy was the response after

788
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: George Floyd's murder, because what you saw was not only

789
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: people of all walks of life out there protesting. It

790
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: wasn't just black folks, But when you looked at the polling,

791
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: you actually saw that by a significant number, many more

792
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: white Americans were willing to acknowledge problems in the criminal

793
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: justice system race. Why do we have to wait on

794
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: them though? Well? Speak to speak our truth to power.

795
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, what this comes down to is how do

796
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: you build coalitions to actually get stuff done? Because the

797
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: truth of the matter is is that in very few

798
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: places are African Americans the majority of the vote. You know,

799
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: it's just simple math, right, so right where we're sitting

800
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: right now in Washington, DC, that would be the case.

801
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: But there are not a lot of states, and they're

802
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: a handful of cities where just the black vote delivers

803
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: the power then to actually bring about concrete change. So

804
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: as a consequence, then you've got to pay attention to

805
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: how other folks are feeling. That may be frustrating sometimes,

806
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: And as I said, that's not the job of everybody.

807
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: The job of a writer like a James Baldwin or

808
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: a Tanahasi Coates, the job of a preacher, the job

809
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: of an activist. When I was a community organizer, I'm

810
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: thinking differently about what I'm communicating because I'm trying to

811
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: mobilize a particular segment of my community. Right But when

812
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: we are talking about politics at the particularly at the

813
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: state or federal levels, well, you need to be able

814
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: to persuade some white folks who are not going to

815
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: think like you. And you may want to say things

816
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: exactly the way you want to say it, but they

817
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: may not hear it. And if you don't hear if

818
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: they don't hear it, then it's not going to help you.

819
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, listen. One thing that I think is

820
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: absolutely important to recognize is that even people who are

821
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: not in any way consciously anti black, they don't want

822
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: to be seen as the bad person. They're always going

823
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: to be a little defensive. That's human nature. In the

824
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: same way, by the way that you know, and you know,

825
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: you may be able to relate to this more as

826
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: a man, like you know, if women start talking to

827
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: men about their issues, a lot of men will get

828
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: very defensive, very quickly and say, you know that's not me.

829
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: You know, I treat my woman good, or you know,

830
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: I'm not the problem, or et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,

831
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: and or if they're smart, they will listen and make adjustments. Yes,

832
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: but the woman has to be allowed to be able

833
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: to speak their truth to power, of course. But you know, listen,

834
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: part of the book you talk about that, That's what

835
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you next, right, you talk

836
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: about the women on your team and them having issues

837
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: with men interrupting them constantly and taking their ideas and

838
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: making it their own. And as a matter of fact,

839
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: that was happening, they were feeling so intimidated by it

840
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: that they didn't even want to speak anymore. And sometimes

841
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: because of that, and that was something that you guys

842
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: had to adjust. And I feel like that's something that

843
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: happens in the workplace all the time to this day.

844
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: So absolutely part of what had to happen was the

845
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 1: women had to bring it to me. Then we all

846
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 1: had to talk about it. I had to get educated

847
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: on what was happening, because a lot of times this

848
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: wasn't happening in front of me. As I said, the

849
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: guys would be on their best behavior a lot of

850
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: times in front of me, but in meetings where I

851
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: wasn't in suddenly you had some of these macho attitudes

852
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: coming up. My point is that as we think about

853
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: social change, whether we're talking about race, whether we're talking

854
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: about gender, whether we're talking about sexual orientation, you know,

855
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: this stuff is deep in everybody, right. We all have

856
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 1: all these attitudes that have been built up over time,

857
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 1: what we learned from our parents, what we learned from

858
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: our communities, our neighborhoods. And there are times where the

859
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: best thing to do is just be blunt and say

860
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: you know what you know you are being racist or

861
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: you are being sexist. There are times where the better

862
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: thing to do is listen, I understand you know, you've

863
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: got your own issues and this is you know, I

864
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: think you mean well, but let me tell you, like

865
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: how this is interpreted by me, right, and in each

866
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: of those situations, and there's no formula, right, You're trying

867
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: to figure it out at any given time. How can

868
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: I get other people to see my reality in a

869
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: way that leads them to change their behavior, leads them

870
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: to support changes in laws and institutions. And you know,

871
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: but as as you quoted, that's frustrating, right, you' not

872
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: you'd you'd prefer not having to do this at all.

873
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not the first person to write about

874
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: the fact that it is sometimes exhausting to feel as

875
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 1: if you got to educate folks about just being treated

876
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: normally unfairly. Right, I prefer not having that legacy that

877
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: we have to deal with with reading this book and

878
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: all that you did for every community, including our own community.

879
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: How do you take it when you hear, especially African

880
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Americans minorities say that, you know, they feel that President

881
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: but Rock didn't do enough for minorities, didn't do enough

882
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: for black people people. You know, what are your thoughts

883
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: on that? I understand it because when I got elected

884
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: there was so much excitement and hope. And I also

885
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: think that we generally view the presidency as almost like

886
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: a monarchy in the sense of, well, once the presidents there,

887
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 1: he can just do whatever it needs to get done.

888
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: And if he's not doing it, then it must be

889
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: because he didn't want to do it. Well, we see

890
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: what Trump soo, so he does what he wants to do.

891
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: So people listening right because he breaks laws and or

892
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: or disregards the Constitution. But I think that anybody who

893
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: goes into public life they need to understand that, yeah,

894
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: you're going to get criticized because that's just the nature

895
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 1: of it. If you don't want that, then you shouldn't

896
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: be in that business. The good news for me was

897
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: that I was very confident in what I had done

898
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: for black folks because I had the statistics to prove it. Right. So,

899
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: by the time I left office, you had seen three

900
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: million African Americans have healthcare that didn't have it before.

901
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: You had seen the incarceration rate, the number of black

902
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: folks in prison drop for the first time in years.

903
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: You had seen the juvenile correction system thirty percent fewer

904
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: people in there. You had seen black poverty dropped to

905
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: its lowest level since nineteen sixty eight. You had seen

906
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: black businesses rise, you had seen black income go up.

907
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: So I could just look at the data and I

908
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: could say millions of black folks were better off at

909
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: the time I left office than when I came in.

910
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: And you know what I have to accept, and I

911
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: think what any president has to accept is the fact that, Okay,

912
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: so I got twenty million people healthcare, but there's still

913
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: ten million out there who don't have healthcare because Republicans

914
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: blocked me from doing everything I wanted to do with

915
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: Obamacare because some states didn't, you know, accept Medicaid dollars

916
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: even though it wasn't going to cass them a dime,

917
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: just because they wanted to oppose me. So if you

918
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: were black and you're one of those ten million who

919
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: didn't get healthcare because they were living in a state

920
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: that didn't accept the money we were giving them, I

921
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: can understand why they would be upset. How come things

922
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: didn't change. I think people want to know, like, what

923
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: did you do specifically for black people? Not the rising

924
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: tide lifts all boats types of rhetoric, because we all

925
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: know black people's boat got to hold in it so

926
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: the systemic things that were done to black people to

927
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: put us in these positions need specific systemic things to

928
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: get us out. So well, but what I'm doing, what

929
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, travel Mayne, is black property dropped faster than

930
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: everybody else. Black incomes went up more than a lot

931
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: of other folks. So you know, the issue is sometimes

932
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: we just didn't go around advertising that because once again,

933
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: the goal here is to build coalitions where everybody is

934
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: getting something so that they all feel like they've got

935
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: a stake in it. But a lot of my policies

936
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: were targeted towards people most in need. Those folks are

937
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: disproportionately African American. Now, there are some things that for example,

938
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: US having a civil Rights division in the Justice Department

939
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: that actually took seriously civil rights and imposed consent decrees

940
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: on places like Ferguson, and change sentencing guidelines so that

941
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: we didn't max out on sentencing for all non violent

942
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 1: drug offenses, but change the incentives so that prosecutors were

943
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: judged not by how long of a sentence you got,

944
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: but did you get a proportional sentence? Was it a

945
00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: fair sentence? Those kinds of changes that we made, that's

946
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: why I say, there's a reason why the federal prison

947
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: population dropped, by the way, at the same time the

948
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: crime also dropped, right, So we were able to show

949
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: that you can have a smart strategy in terms of

950
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: reducing crime without expanding incarceration. But the truth of the

951
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: matter is shell them in. At the end of the day,

952
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: there is no way in eight years to make up

953
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: for two hundred years. Absolutely, And the question is constantly,

954
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: how are you going to you know, the way I've

955
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: been describing it, because because it's very much how I

956
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: understand the presidency. Now, You're like a relay runner. You

957
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: know you're getting the baton from somebody else, and all

958
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: you can do is run your stage of the race,

959
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: and then you pass it on the next person. And

960
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: on either side, both who you got to hit from

961
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: and who you're passing it too, they may not have

962
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: the same priorities that you do. You know, you're you

963
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: know that you're not going to get everything done that

964
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: you need to get done. But what you got to

965
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: do is do your best to get as much done

966
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: as possible, and I think that's what we did. Would

967
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: you say that your intention with this book was to

968
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: explain to people also how difficult it was for you

969
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: to get things passed and for people to see what

970
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: you did do, because, like you said in the book,

971
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times, it's not your policies and what

972
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: you do, it's more what you say and the feeling

973
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: that people have, and that's what they pay attention to.

974
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: So absolutely, look, let's take something like, you know, the

975
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: Recovery Act. So I walk in the day I walk in,

976
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 1: we're losing eight hundred thousand jobs a month. The economy

977
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: is actually contracting faster than it did during the Great Depression.

978
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: And six months later the economy was grown again and

979
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: we had kind of stopped the free fall. But if

980
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: you're somebody who had lost your job at that point

981
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: or lost your house, you're not feeling good. And we

982
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: couldn't go around saying look what a patting ourselves on

983
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: the back, saying look at what a great job we did,

984
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: because people are still hurting out there. I hope if

985
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: somebody reads this they come to recognize if we want

986
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 1: to bring about systemic change, there are a whole bunch

987
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: of different pressure points that we have to apply. It's

988
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: not just the presidency. So I write extensively about the

989
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: fact that I have a lot of power as president.

990
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm the most powerful person as president, but I still

991
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: need a Congress. I still need to make sure that

992
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: we have a majority in the House of Representatives, because

993
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: if I don't, I can't get any a single law

994
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: passed if I want to change something on criminal justice reform,

995
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: it turns out that the federal government isn't actually in

996
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: charge of most criminal in the law. Most criminal laws

997
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: made at the state level and determined by state prosecutors,

998
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: most police departments, the federal government has nothing to do with.

999
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: That's determined by the mayor in that city. Whether they're

1000
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: prosecuted when they do something wrong, that's up to the

1001
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: state's attorney or disc attorney in that area. So when

1002
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: we think about politics, it is a mistake for us

1003
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, once i'm I voted for president, I'm done,

1004
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: and I hope people don't repeat that mistake with Biden

1005
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: and Kamala Harris. Right now, we've got two seats in

1006
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: Georgia coming up. If the Republicans win those two seats,

1007
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: then Joe Biden and Kamala Harrist will not be able

1008
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: to get any law passed that Mitch McConnell and the

1009
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: Republicans aren't willing to go along with Well, you got

1010
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: to do a better job of letting people know, Hey,

1011
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to do a lot more for people, especially

1012
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: black people, but I couldn't because Mitch McConnell was blocking

1013
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: me every chance you got. Well, that's why I wrote

1014
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: the book. That's why whatever everybody gonna read, that's all

1015
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Well, you know, all these interviews I hear

1016
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: some people listen to you about Georgia where Warnock, I

1017
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: see they're giving him issues about his alliance with Jeremiah Rights,

1018
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: the same kind of stuff. Did you tell him he

1019
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: should step back and denounce him? At this point? We look,

1020
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: first of all, it is a losing game at this

1021
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: stage to just go chasing crazy commentary. H There's some

1022
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: things you have to answer aggressively, but you can't obsess

1023
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: over it. Warnock is doing a great job. If I'm him,

1024
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to be emphasizing what am I positively going

1025
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: to do on behalf of the people of Georgia that

1026
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: that as opposed to just trying to play defense against

1027
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of crazy stuff that's coming out there. But

1028
00:58:54,840 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: but listen, it's hard winning in Georgia, just like it's

1029
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: hard winning in Iowa. It's like it's hard in a

1030
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: lot of the country. And one thing I think that

1031
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: I hope the book also reminds us of Yeah, those

1032
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: of us who live in DC or New York or LA.

1033
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we do not have a a good

1034
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: enough sense of how big this country is and how

1035
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: a lot of folks do not accept at all things

1036
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: that we who are living in urban metropolitan areas just

1037
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: take for granted. From South Carolina, I don't know, Yeah,

1038
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, you go, there are a

1039
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: big chance of the country, even in our own communities, right,

1040
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, so I deeply believe that people should be

1041
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: treated equally under the law, regardless of sexual orientation. I

1042
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: was shocked you talked about that a book, but we all,

1043
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think they're big chunks of

1044
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: our community where that's still controversial. People were surprised about

1045
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: a lot of Hispanic folks who voted for Trump, but

1046
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of evangelical Hispanics who you know, the

1047
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: fact that Trump says racist things about Mexicans or puts detainees,

1048
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, undocumented workers in cages. They think that's less

1049
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: important than the fact that, you know, he supports their

1050
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: views on you know, gay marriage or abortion. Right. It's

1051
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: hard to believe when you say this, But then you

1052
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: look at the way the government is ran. Right you

1053
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: talk about, for instance, you look at these big businesses

1054
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: and you look at their taxes, and they don't pay

1055
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: taxes at all. And then you look at somebody who

1056
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: is just getting by paying as much tax as possible.

1057
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Speaker 1: And you look at, for instance, the Pandemic task Force

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Speaker 1: that you created, and you see Trump coming office and

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Speaker 1: he shuts that down. And then you think to yourself, damn,

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Speaker 1: if that task force was still around, with so many

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Speaker 1: people have been dead, been killed, would we be able

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Speaker 1: to save lives? We would have saved some lives. Here's

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Speaker 1: one simple statistic. Canada, right right next door. Their death

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Speaker 1: rate is forty percent of what ours is per capita.

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Speaker 1: I don't you know. So for every one hundred Americans

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Speaker 1: that have died, only forty Canadians have died. And that's

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Speaker 1: just a matter of their government making better decisions. So

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Speaker 1: the question, though, is is that you still had seventy

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Speaker 1: billion people voting for a government that I would say

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Speaker 1: objectively has failed miserably in handling this basic looking after

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Speaker 1: the American people and keeping him safe. Why is that, Well,

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Speaker 1: part of it is because, uh, you know, it turns

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Speaker 1: out politics is not just about policy. It's not just

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Speaker 1: about numbers. It's about the stories that are that are

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Speaker 1: being told. And the story that they're hearing from Fox

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Speaker 1: News and Rush Limbaugh and you know, in some cases

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Speaker 1: inside their churches is that Democrats don't believe in Christmas,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you only care about minorities and black

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Speaker 1: folks and are trying to take your stuff and trying

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Speaker 1: to take your guns away, and right there's a whole

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Speaker 1: story that's being told to them, and people end up

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Speaker 1: feeling as if, you know, what, we are under attack

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Speaker 1: that you know, what's always interesting to me is the

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Speaker 1: degree to which we've created, you've seen created in Republican politics,

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Speaker 1: this sense that you know, white males are victims, like

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Speaker 1: they're the ones who are like under attack, which obviously

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Speaker 1: doesn't jibe with both history and data and economics. But

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Speaker 1: that's a sincere belief, you know, that's been internalized. That's

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Speaker 1: a story that's being told, and how you unwind that

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Speaker 1: is going to be not something that is done right away.

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Speaker 1: It's going to take some time. But we heard some

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Speaker 1: rumors in this book how different because you know, when

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Speaker 1: I hear that, I'm like and it feels like we're

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Speaker 1: catering to white racists all the time. So I wonder

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Speaker 1: how different would the dem strategy be if we lived

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Speaker 1: in a one man, one vote society with no electoral college. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think that would help. Let's take a simple example

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Speaker 1: like the Senate. So Wyoming, which has about half a

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Speaker 1: million people, has the same number of senators as California

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Speaker 1: with thirty three million people. Right, So what that means

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Speaker 1: is is that the US Senate is hugely skewed towards

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Speaker 1: some of these lower population, you know, more rural, much

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Speaker 1: wider states than the big coastal states. And that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a big difference in terms of getting stuff done.

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Speaker 1: So so the bottom line is is that our democracy

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Speaker 1: is imperfect. Changing that is going to take a lot

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Speaker 1: of effort because you've got to get over the hump,

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Speaker 1: even even just to secure our voting rights. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that you know is still at stake at

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Speaker 1: Georgia is if we controlled the Senate, then it is

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Speaker 1: at least theoretically possible to pass a voting rights bill

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Speaker 1: that stops some of this voter suppression and intimidation that

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Speaker 1: you're still seeing around the country that Republicans have been

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Speaker 1: pretty blatant about just saying, look, we just we're trying

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Speaker 1: to prevent them promoting, but getting to the electoral college,

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Speaker 1: getting to the way that the the US Senators skewed

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Speaker 1: that would require us also potentially admitting Washington, DC, and

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico in as states so that you know, which

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Speaker 1: has its own politics. Um, you know, it would mean

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Speaker 1: having states change how they do their electoral counts. I

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Speaker 1: think the Constitution is outdated. Three, they got to get

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Speaker 1: rid of that language. The way that this diverse the

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Speaker 1: country is those people weren't at the table when they

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Speaker 1: wrote the constitution. You're a constitutional lawyer, you got we

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Speaker 1: gotta get Well, there is a way to change it.

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Speaker 1: It's called amending the Constitution. The problem is that in

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Speaker 1: order to do that, we have to have such an

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Speaker 1: increase in awareness and active So there's a mechanism to

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Speaker 1: amend the Constitution, but you just have to get everybody

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Speaker 1: involved and focused in it. And this is part of

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Speaker 1: the reason. You know, folks have been teasing me about

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Speaker 1: how you know, man, that's a long book, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Michelle's was so much shorter. And you know, there were

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Speaker 1: times where I was tempted to, you know, let me

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Speaker 1: just leave out this explanation or that explanation, because folks,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're not gonna necessarily want to read all that.

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Speaker 1: But part of what I wanted to do was just say, man,

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Speaker 1: this is the stuff that we've got to know if

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Speaker 1: we really want to change stuff, Like you have to

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Speaker 1: know about the filibuster in the Senate. Right, So this

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Speaker 1: is a rule that wasn't even in the Constitution. This

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01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: is just a rule that the Senate adopted that says

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Speaker 1: you have to have sixty votes to pass legislation, you

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Speaker 1: have to have a supermajority. That even more empowers those

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: little states, right because now they don't even need they

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01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: don't even need fifty Senate votes, They just need a

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Speaker 1: forty one to basically block anything from getting through the Senate.

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Speaker 1: That's what happened to me in my first two years

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Speaker 1: was I was having to get to sixty votes on everything,

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Speaker 1: which meant that the number of Senators that were basically

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Speaker 1: representing twenty five percent of the country had a veto

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Speaker 1: power over anything we want to try to get done.

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Speaker 1: But most people don't know that. You know, if if

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Speaker 1: you try to explain to the average you brother in

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Speaker 1: the barbershop man, that filibuster, I just I just thought

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Speaker 1: it when people talked for a long time. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: but but that thing is which, by the way, had

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Speaker 1: its roots. You know. The thing that it was most

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Speaker 1: used for was to block civil rights legislation and and

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Speaker 1: anti lynch legislation, and that thing is still operating. We

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Speaker 1: have to know how that stuff works in order for

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Speaker 1: us if we really want the kind of changes you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, where taking away some of these barriers to

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Speaker 1: everybody having their voice heard in the government. President Obama

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Speaker 1: has to go guys, so and listen. Congratulations. Eight hundred

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Speaker 1: ninety thousand sold in the first day, which is breaking

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Speaker 1: all kinds of records. So it just shows the power

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Speaker 1: that you still have. You got a little name out here.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I think it's because it was packaged

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Speaker 1: with Michelle's book, so you know, and uh, but I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. You know, you talked about black folks

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Speaker 1: and how they talked about or thought about my presidency.

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Speaker 1: I will say, even at our lowest point, the amount

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Speaker 1: of loyalty and folks having our back, knowing you know

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Speaker 1: that we were going through some challenges. Um, the prayer

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Speaker 1: that we got, the you know, the blessings we received

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Speaker 1: from our own um that that is as much as anything,

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Speaker 1: what helped sustain us. It is something we never took

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Speaker 1: for granted and we were always grateful. So so what

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Speaker 1: one last question, what do democrats old black people specifically

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Speaker 1: do you think, especially after what we just did in

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Speaker 1: this past election. Well, I look, I think that Democrats

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Speaker 1: and Republicans and America old black folks the same thing

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Speaker 1: that all people are, which is justice and fairness. The

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01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 1: differences is that for black folks that justice has been

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01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: deferred and denied for too long, or it's been half

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: baked and in insufficient. We've never done a full reckoning

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Speaker 1: of what was part of the essential history and building

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Speaker 1: of this country. And I think in concrete terms, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to overstate what Joe and Kamala are

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Speaker 1: going to be able to accomplish in this congressional environment

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Speaker 1: with that much resistance, because they're going to be in

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Speaker 1: a position that was even that's probably even tougher than

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Speaker 1: the one that I came in. But what I can

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Speaker 1: say is, I think at the very minimum, everything they

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Speaker 1: put forward, from jobs programs to small business loans, to

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Speaker 1: education to college debt issues, that they have to be

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Speaker 1: mindful that the African American community put faith in them

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Speaker 1: to hear them and to understand what ordinary folks are

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Speaker 1: going through every day, working hard, trying to make it

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Speaker 1: and that and that they shouldn't be making a decision

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01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: without knowing, all right, this is going to have an

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Speaker 1: impact on some of those struggles to make make people

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01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: and their families a little more secure, a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to make things perfect. But if if

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Speaker 1: at the end of Joe Biden's presidency and Commons presidency,

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Speaker 1: he too can say what I was able to say,

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Speaker 1: which is people's lives are better. You know, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, that's what you expect out of politicians.

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Speaker 1: They're a morally correct way to do what Trump did,

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Speaker 1: which is as far as like you know, catering to

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Speaker 1: his base, you know, doing what he felt was best

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Speaker 1: for his folks. They are morally correct way to do

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Speaker 1: that get more votes. I mean, the truth of the

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Speaker 1: matter has actually Trump hasn't gotten a lot. He's torn

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Speaker 1: some stuff down, he hasn't. There's no law that he's

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Speaker 1: passed that is transformative in this country. He passed the

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Speaker 1: tax cut to give away some more money to rich folks,

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Speaker 1: which probably has been doing that for years. But you

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Speaker 1: can't name a piece of legislation that he's done that

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Speaker 1: has actually changed the country, even for his own constituencies.

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Speaker 1: So it's always easier to tear down than build up.

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Speaker 1: Building up that requires votes, And that's why I do not.

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Speaker 1: I will come on this show every time if I

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Speaker 1: hear folks say voting doesn't matter. Yeah, voting will not.

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Speaker 1: It's not like winning the lottery. You don't you don't

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Speaker 1: vote and then suddenly everything is great. Voting is more

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01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:47,839
Speaker 1: like you know, washing your car or iron in your clothes.

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 1: It's part of the thing you do to make stuff work,

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Speaker 1: and it's part of your responsibility and as part of

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Speaker 1: all of our responsibility, just to make sure that we

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Speaker 1: don't see chaos of the sort that we've just seen

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Speaker 1: over the last four years. All right, guys, well, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you for joining us. President Barack Obama, thank you, sir,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you so much happy and relaxed. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, I feel pretty good. Happy Thanksgiving everybody all morning.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy and Julia Yee, Charlomagne, the guy,

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Speaker 1: we all the breakfast club. Good morning. Now. Usually I

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Speaker 1: do donkey to day right here, but I'm not even

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Speaker 1: supposed to be here today. The only reason I'm here

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01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: because you know of what you just heard. You know,

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Speaker 1: we had to go down to DC on Monday and

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Speaker 1: kick it with Foux Fox. Okay, President Barack Obama. So

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Speaker 1: that conversation and as we have been saying, that book

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Speaker 1: is seven hundred pages if I'm playing. But I read

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Speaker 1: the whole book and it did explain. It did explain

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Speaker 1: a lot, you know, just a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama was trying to do when he was in

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Speaker 1: the White House. You're trying to Turkey. You're trying to Turkey.

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Speaker 1: I gotta reset you. It sound like you're trying to Turkey.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't do that in the house. Body, you gotta

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Speaker 1: recent deep in well even Brooklyn or in the back

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Speaker 1: and dump it. Then. Yeah, but the book was over

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Speaker 1: seven hundred pages. I started reading the book and then

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Speaker 1: I mean it was so long. I had to buy

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Speaker 1: the audio. Well, I have a technique, right. My technique

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Speaker 1: is I read when I'm at home, when I'm in

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Speaker 1: the car, listen to the audible. But I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you another technique that I do. I put the speed

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Speaker 1: to one point four and I'm at home. I did

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Speaker 1: that too, and I read the book as well as

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Speaker 1: listen to the person, uh recite the book right, And

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Speaker 1: it was twenty nine hours long of him reciting the

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Speaker 1: book sped up. I think it was like twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I absorbed me when I'm reading. Yo,

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Speaker 1: you frying a turkey on the radio. Y'all know thanks

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Speaker 1: Giving as tomorrow, But you have to reset the whole kay,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yeah, but yeah, it was so people ask,

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Speaker 1: you know, how was the room? How many Secret service

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Speaker 1: people were there? Was Michelle Obama there? Well, it was

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Speaker 1: in the one of the ballrooms of the hotel, the

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Speaker 1: Kennedy ball Room. Shout to Crystal, who was the person

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Speaker 1: Crystal and made sure everything came together with Stephanie to

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Speaker 1: Stepan as well. It wasn't It wasn't too many people there.

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Speaker 1: I think it may have been maybe two three people

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Speaker 1: from his staff. I see, maybe two secret service people. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and it was just him. He came in, happy, smiling,

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Speaker 1: sat down, He was very polite. He was joking smell cigarettes,

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Speaker 1: not making that I'm making all of that didn't But

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Speaker 1: if you read the book, you know he was one

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Speaker 1: point he was smoking ten cigarettes today. Yeah, until he

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Speaker 1: got on the niggotine gumbo. Yeah, go by the book.

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Speaker 1: But even even I know behind the scenes when he

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Speaker 1: was leaving. I asked him because in the book, when

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Speaker 1: you read the book, I'll tell you a little bit.

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Speaker 1: They here saying that Republicans were making so many rumors

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Speaker 1: up about him. They said that one he wasn't born

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Speaker 1: here in the US. Know that. Another one that he

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Speaker 1: was a drug deal it's a good one. And the

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Speaker 1: last one is that he was a gay male prostitute.

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Speaker 1: And you couldn't wait there. And he asked behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: which says a lot. But what does it say that

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Speaker 1: exactly if he was over we haven't even we have

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Speaker 1: a clipp of it. When I when I did ask,

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Speaker 1: but what then if he said, damn, it's not true,

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Speaker 1: and he was so disappointed. I didn't say he had

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Speaker 1: a handful of money. He was your rules right upstairs, right,

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Speaker 1: But he was a good sport. He was laughing. He

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Speaker 1: was like, sho, I did it was funny, said Helen,

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Speaker 1: finding for they at all. But you know, he was

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Speaker 1: a good guy. It was he didn't take anything personal.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully we'll get to speak with him again and

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Speaker 1: maybe interview him again. Oh, it's a part two of

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Speaker 1: the book coming up. Yeah, you know, because it's a

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Speaker 1: promised land only covers the first four years, correct, So

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you how it ends, but you

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Speaker 1: know it only covers the first four years, right, And

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Speaker 1: we want to take your phone calls. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: heard what forty five minutes I don't long a thane

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Speaker 1: forty eight minutes of President Barack Obama with the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Eight hundred five one? We sure have.

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Speaker 1: We've come a long way, slot to everybody else with us.

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Speaker 1: In the beginning, when I was on this radio talking

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Speaker 1: about sucking far to other people's butts, vaginas, thank God

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Speaker 1: for growth and evolutions, sniffing people's chairs, Yeah, we were

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Speaker 1: pretty bad. Yeah, but we changed, all right, No, we grew.

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Speaker 1: It's a difference. Okay, see what I'm saying? What what?

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind? That's on your mind. I would

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Speaker 1: putting up the phone up all you want to open

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Speaker 1: this morning. We just said we grew up. We just

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Speaker 1: said we did, and you're going back. We did eight

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Speaker 1: hundred five eight five one five one is the Breakfast

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Speaker 1: Cloud Morning, the Breakfast Club. It's topic time on the

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Speaker 1: phone called eight hundred five eight five one oh five.

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Speaker 1: Want to join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: Talk about it morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee,

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Speaker 1: Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. Now if

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Speaker 1: you're just joining us, please joining us. Forty eight minute

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Speaker 1: interview we did with President back Obama. Now listen. It's

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Speaker 1: very important to note. And on December sixth, it to

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Speaker 1: be ten years of the Breakfast Club. Next Sunday, next Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We're never here during the week of this White Man's holiday,

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Speaker 1: which is Thanksgiving, We're never here. We haven't been here

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Speaker 1: in ten years. We only came in today because we

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Speaker 1: had this conversation with President Barack Obama on Monday that

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Speaker 1: we aired this morning. Yep, what's your thoughts? Shout out

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Speaker 1: to my mama, My mama is the first time my

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Speaker 1: mama don't usually text me this early in the morning

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Speaker 1: unless there's a problem or situation. My Mama said, I

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Speaker 1: just listened to the interview and I'm very proud of you.

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Speaker 1: It was great. My aunt v texting me this morning

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Speaker 1: as well, so thank you. She hid the question that

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Speaker 1: you asked him about being a gaymeel prostitute. What you

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Speaker 1: might not have heard that part because that part. But

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Speaker 1: let's not remind Let's go to the phonelines. Hello, who's

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Speaker 1: this this? De Sean Sulk y'all, what's up? The show

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01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: was going on? What's happening? King? But what did you

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Speaker 1: think of the interview? Bro? So? I thought it was great,

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Speaker 1: I really did. I learned a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: I didn't even learn in high school. And I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: about to go grab the book because it's all about education.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not teaching the things that he's saying,

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Speaker 1: and then the things that he's written in the book,

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Speaker 1: they're not teaching us. So that's the only way that

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Speaker 1: anybody is ever gonna learn any of this stuff self education,

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Speaker 1: and they're learning from someone who've been through these things

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Speaker 1: and going through the things and stuff like that. I agree,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, brother. Hello, who's this This? Is TSA, what's

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Speaker 1: going on? Djay Vy, what's up? T shat, good morning,

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Speaker 1: Happy happy things given happy white Man's holiday T shirt him.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to get you back. So what did you think?

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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on an interview? I think at first,

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Speaker 1: I want to like, you know, President Obama for taking

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Speaker 1: the time out forty eight minutes. You quite some time

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Speaker 1: for a man, you know, if his stature and they

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Speaker 1: just kind of like educating people and Sharlo Man, you know,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you for asking serious questions. You know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: you get like a little flex sometimes, but I think

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Speaker 1: you kind of like put the gas to them a

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Speaker 1: little bit and forced to, you know, answer questions that

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Speaker 1: the black people wanted to hear. I think it's unfortunate

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Speaker 1: that black people sometimes we don't really educate ourselves. We

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Speaker 1: just go with what it said and we follow it

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Speaker 1: and then we spread it and a lot of times

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Speaker 1: it takes. But you know, I think that Obama could

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Speaker 1: only do so much, like you said, and I think

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Speaker 1: that what he did do was just enough, and we

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Speaker 1: need to also give him, you know, praise. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: him shouting out, you know, God and saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: his prayers, just what really got him through. You know,

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Speaker 1: I really really appreciate President Obama, appreciate both of you guys.

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Speaker 1: Have a safe holidays and you know, just love on

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Speaker 1: your family more. Thank you. So we appreciate you so much.

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Speaker 1: To Shi, thank you. Hello. Who's this? Rico? Rico? Rico?

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Speaker 1: Woke up? Rilla? Rico Gorilla? Oh woke up Rella? Hashtag

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Speaker 1: it's me again. I was onna want y'all last week. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about the Barack Obama interview? Weren't memorable? Rico? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Charlotte man be quietma hearing him. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, real quick, my dad met

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Speaker 1: Barack when he was running for senator and he asked

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Speaker 1: for He asked my dad for a newport. Anyway, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about so you got so. I just wanted to say,

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Speaker 1: I listen to y'all every day, man, y'all really really

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Speaker 1: upgrading every day, y'all getting better. When I heard him

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Speaker 1: on the radio and I turned my car on, I

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Speaker 1: was just like, damn, I can't move. I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't get out of the car. I

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Speaker 1: sat there the whole time to listen to it. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Man, you guys are doing great. Thank you, brother.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear. Yeah. I can't wait for

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Speaker 1: y'all edited and put it on YouTube so I can

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Speaker 1: share it. Oh, we're not adding it right now, that's

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Speaker 1: all you mean? Like the clip? Yeah, we post clips

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Speaker 1: on social media. No, grandpa eighty two years old and

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Speaker 1: they listened to you guys. Appreciate that. Y man, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get your grandaddy from blue tooth for Christmas. Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: follow me. Uh, it's old understory five bro bro brot

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Speaker 1: the man shot out. Click, y'all a brother, love you back.

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Speaker 1: Let him give his let me so Patty. Let the

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Speaker 1: man shout out of people. I'm not Patty. Eight hundred

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Speaker 1: five eight five one on five one. We just played

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Speaker 1: our interview with President Barack Obama forty eight minutes long.

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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts? Call us up. It's the Breakfast Club,

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Speaker 1: come morning. Call me and your opinions to the breakfast

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Speaker 1: club topic. Come on. Eight hundred five eight five one

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Speaker 1: five one wanted everybody iss d j Envy Angela, yee all.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club now

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Speaker 1: if he just joined us, we're talking about our interview

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Speaker 1: with President Barack Obama. It just aired forty eight minutes. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean we took we took time out of our

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Speaker 1: busy schedules, you know, to sit down with a fan.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, to sit down with a

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Speaker 1: man who's a fan of the breakfast Club. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This is listen, this is a giving season, right,

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Speaker 1: we gotta do some sheriff of y'allt stopped for Hello,

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Speaker 1: who's this all? This air from Gjersey City? What's up?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Interview with President Barack Obama? Brou Look, I'm

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Speaker 1: coming back from Walmart. Right, I'm parking the car. I

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01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 1: turned on the radio real quick. It's it's Obama. I'm

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Speaker 1: like what and you know when the fire play when

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, yo. I loved it, man, I

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Speaker 1: loved it. Bro. It was so educational. I think we

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Speaker 1: need more of that, Like the part on the Senate,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you don't like in us where I

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Speaker 1: live at in Jersey City, to turnout is always so

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Speaker 1: big during the presidential election and then nobody comes out

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Speaker 1: and vote. No other talk. So it was so important.

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Speaker 1: And then Angela Anglo you was so sweet when you

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Speaker 1: was when you interjected with the violence against women in

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Speaker 1: the world place where you know the professional environment, that

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Speaker 1: was so sweet. Obama was like, um, the guys, it

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Speaker 1: was pretty much all right under my radar. And then

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Speaker 1: when I stepped away, you got the macheesing my attitude.

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Speaker 1: We have dice so much. I just appreciated that interview.

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Speaker 1: Bro I really did it. Thank you King, Thank you,

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Speaker 1: brother peace Broe. Hello, who's this? Iwer room ending? I

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Speaker 1: us room end? What's happening? Good morning? Good one? I

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Speaker 1: love you, guys, good morning, we love you. Was happening? Hey,

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Speaker 1: Uncle Charlotte. I got seven uncles, and you are by

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Speaker 1: far my best uncle, my favorite. I appreciate that, Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Hey, so about about Obama. So I'm

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Speaker 1: a black woman of human resources. Right, so when I'm

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01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: at work, I gotta turn it down. My family knows

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Speaker 1: when I'm at work, they make me turn it off. Right,

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01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: So I got my my word voice, and then I

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Speaker 1: got I'm at work on my eas at home. I'm

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Speaker 1: isshaw like. I thoroughly enjoyed the interview. Y'all. Y'all are

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Speaker 1: the most dangerous breast of something more in the show,

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Speaker 1: we get it, but I wanted a little bit more Berry.

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Speaker 1: I know he's got a legacy to uphold. I get that,

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Speaker 1: but I kind of wanted a little bit more Berry,

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Speaker 1: more human side I did. I felt like he stuck

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Speaker 1: with the Obama he you know, he was still professional,

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Speaker 1: he did everything right. We will always lost him, but

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Speaker 1: I just wanted a little bit more. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: know him a little bit more personally. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: honest with you. I think that's who he is, like

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Speaker 1: even if you read his book. Don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: Like he smokes or he used to smoke. He drinks,

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01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 1: you know, he curses, But I think for the most part,

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01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: that's who he is. He's like he's that kind of person,

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01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: like he shows up in the world in that way,

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01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, always get thing to say, the right things,

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01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: moving the right way. I mean, come on, he's a

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01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: black man high road. Yeah, he's a black man who

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01:25:53,439 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 1: didn't have no scandal. Think about that. Right. Well, I'm

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01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 1: getting his book. I haven't gotten it, but I'm with you, guys.

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01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: I think now I'm getting an audio. Yes, thank you

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01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,120
Speaker 1: so much, mamma, thank you. I have a good day,

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01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: all right. Well, the full interview you can check out

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01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Club YouTube. Right right now, We'll be

1482
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: playing clips on our personal social media, so you can

1483
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: definitely check those out, but definitely check out the full interview. Man,

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01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a great way to in the year.

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01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,600
Speaker 1: You actually, I mean listen, honestly, I got a lot

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01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: of vacation days. I don't have to come back after

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01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: this week. You know what I'm saying. I'm just saying.

1488
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm just shaying. But no, that was feeling froggy jumped.

1489
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Listen. All jokes aside. It was a

1490
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: great conversation. I really enjoyed sitting sitting down with the

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01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: forty fourth president of the United States of America, President

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01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: Barack Obama, and I just feel like that was a

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01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 1: culmination of everything that we've been doing in the past

1494
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 1: couple of years as far as like having these conversations

1495
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: with correct these politicians. You know what I'm saying, I

1496
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 1: think black political culture is some then that I want

1497
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: to I want to continue to push even when it's

1498
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: not an election cycle. You know, everybody gets excited when

1499
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, the presidential election, but what about the

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01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: mid terms, what about local elections? I just think that's

1501
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 1: something we have to add to our repertoire. Absolutely, And

1502
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 1: another thing we keep on on saying is also making

1503
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: sure that you know that just because you voted, it's

1504
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 1: not over. After that, you still have work to do

1505
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: and you have to hold politicians accountable. It's not that

1506
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: you just expect them to hand you things. You have

1507
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: to be part of that process. But absolutely, Well, y'all

1508
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: want to do rumors when we come back. Were you'all

1509
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 1: ready to get about what you want to do now?

1510
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: I'm whatever. We can leave right now if you want listen.

1511
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,560
Speaker 1: I think we should talk about Dave Chappelle and his

1512
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: Unforgiven that he just put up. I think we need

1513
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: to discuss that too. Is along with this after this

1514
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: interview a we'll do that when we come back. Leave

1515
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: right after that, right after the mix. Sorry, so don't move.

1516
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: It's a breakfast Clocal morning, a breakfast club. It's about

1517
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: is the rumor report Angela Yee on the breakfast club?

1518
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Dave Chappelle posted another I don't know

1519
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: if you would call it a stand up, but it's

1520
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,800
Speaker 1: called Unforgiven and it's about twenty minutes long, and he

1521
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 1: talks about the Chappelle show being on Netflix, but he

1522
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: wasn't getting any money from it, you know, he said

1523
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: that previously. Well, here's what he had to say. I

1524
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: like working for Netflix because when all those bad things

1525
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: happened to me, that company didn't even exist. And when

1526
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: I found out they were streaming Chappelle's show, I was furious.

1527
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 1: So you know what I did. I called them and

1528
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: I told them that this makes me feel bad. And

1529
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: do you want to know what they did? They agreed

1530
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: that they would take it off their platform just so

1531
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 1: I could feel better. That's why I put Well, Netflix

1532
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 1: was smart to do that because they don't want to

1533
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 1: ruin any future business with Dave Chappelle. Absolutely, so that

1534
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 1: was a smart move, very smart move. Yeah, they're in

1535
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: business with him now, so I was. And it's interesting

1536
01:28:58,160 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: how he said that he approached them about it and

1537
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: how that happened, and he wants to make sure other

1538
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: people aren't watching it. You know, it's a it's a

1539
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: weird thing because you want people to watch the show

1540
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: and appreciate it, but not when you're not getting money

1541
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: from it. Well, you know, he asked the question and

1542
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: unforgiving that I thought was a very fair question. He said,

1543
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, what they're doing is legal because he did

1544
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: sign the contract. What is it right? That's that's that's

1545
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 1: that's a great question. All right, here's what he had

1546
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: to say about the boycott. I called my agent, I said,

1547
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: is there anything I can do about this show? And

1548
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: he said, no, he wants something done, right. I guess

1549
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,639
Speaker 1: you got to do it yourself. So I'm not going

1550
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: to the agents, coming to my real boss. I'm coming

1551
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: to you. I'm begging you, if you ever liked me,

1552
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: if you ever think there was anything worthwhile about me,

1553
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm begging you, please don't watch that show. I'm not

1554
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: asking the boycott any network, boycott me, boycott Chapelle's show.

1555
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: Do not watch it, and let's stay paying me. And

1556
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,880
Speaker 1: you know what, use It's interesting. It does play on

1557
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: other things besides Netflix. You know, it's on HBO Max

1558
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 1: and they are still streaming the show right now, and

1559
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: it's been on Comedy Central. It's been playing, so you know.

1560
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:10,560
Speaker 1: Another thing he said that stood out to me is

1561
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 1: when he compared it to a three card Molly, and

1562
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: he said, you know, he realized he couldn't win at

1563
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: three card Molly because all of the people he thought

1564
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 1: was just innocent. Bystanders were all in on it. And

1565
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: three Card mon that was three card Molly. I don't

1566
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: know he's taking trugs whatever whatever they did rob people

1567
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: in New York. But that's something very important to look

1568
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: out for. You got to make sure that your lawyer,

1569
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: your agents, your management, you got to make sure they

1570
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: all aren't ko who twit each other? Correct? You know

1571
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yep? All right? And in good news,

1572
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 1: it's like Jeremiah has been taken off of a ventilator

1573
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 1: and he's starting to recover. So that's a positive thing.

1574
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 1: That's great. Yes, So let's hope that everything with that

1575
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 1: turns out okay. And now let's talk about hit maker

1576
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: ak a young burg. Now, he was on Drink Champs

1577
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: and he had some things to say about Notoria from

1578
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: Power and from three LW and a past relationship that

1579
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:01,519
Speaker 1: he says that they had that she said has never happened. Well,

1580
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: when he was on lip Service, here's what he had

1581
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: to say to apologize to NATORI and myself I would

1582
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 1: say too, we didn't like that interview you just did.

1583
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: I think you could tell a story, but you don't

1584
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 1: have to say who it is. After I did it,

1585
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: I literally hit norriy like yo, I don't want this out.

1586
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to come out. Please edit it. I

1587
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: will pay for whatever will go on. I felt bad

1588
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: about the fact. You know what I'm saying after the fact,

1589
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know it is my truth, like

1590
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I didn't. I adn't

1591
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: want it to come out like that, and I knew

1592
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: they was gonna clip it up and make it like

1593
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: a thing like that. My asks them out too, but

1594
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: they did it anymore. And I apologize once again to her.

1595
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 1: I wish it never came out, and I'm sorry about

1596
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: it for real. He said he asked Nora to take

1597
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 1: that out, right, Yeah, he did say that, he asked

1598
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: Nora to take it out. And actually Nori said he

1599
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: wants to talk about that too, because I guess he

1600
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: has his own side. After this interview came out, everybody

1601
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 1: hit me up. We should call LORI. Yeah, he asked

1602
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: for that to happen, So he did apologize to Natory,

1603
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: but it should have never happened. And I said, as

1604
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: I said before, are in the breakfast club. We didn't

1605
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 1: play the actual clip because it is disappointing to hear that.

1606
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 1: So there's Notori except his apology. I don't know if

1607
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: he's directly apologized to her, but I think she thought

1608
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 1: it was whack and she said that she has never

1609
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: slept with him. Oh so he lied, that's what she's saying. Yes,

1610
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: you said you don't want to play the clip because

1611
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: it was because why, I just thought it was extremely offensive.

1612
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 1: You should call Lorian. All right, Well, that is your

1613
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: room of report. I'm Angela Yee. All right, thank you,

1614
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: miss Yee. All right, now when we come back. We

1615
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,840
Speaker 1: got the People's Choice mix. Get your request in eight

1616
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: hundred and five A five one oh five one. Y'all

1617
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: want to call LORI. We got time. We called Nori.

1618
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 1: After the mix, we call Nori. Try to get Norion.

1619
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Save noriences. So don't move. It's to breakfast club. Good morning,

1620
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Your morning's will never be the same. Living

1621
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: large means living with the confidence that you're still living

1622
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 1: your best life inside and outside in the bedroom, but

1623
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 1: when it's time to take it to the bedroom. Magnum

1624
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 1: large size condoms with the choice for maximum comfort, pleasure,

1625
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 1: and of course protection, Live large, expect the best. Magnum

1626
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: large size condoms. Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela yee,

1627
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 1: Charlomagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club again. Thank

1628
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: you to Crystal. Thank you Crystal Carson. Salute to Stephanie Young.

1629
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: You know my partners. Um Yeah, Conresident Barack Obama for

1630
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: President Barack Obama, and thank us man, you know what

1631
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Thank the goddamn Breakfast Club. Thank dj Envy,

1632
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Angelie and Charlomagne the God for putting themselves in a

1633
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 1: position in ten years to where the forty four president

1634
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 1: of the United States of America felt like this is

1635
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: the place he needed to come correct to talk about

1636
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: a promised land. Okay, you need to give ourselves from

1637
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: credit as well. But you know, thank you to Crystal

1638
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Carson and Stephanie Young for connecting those dots and yes,

1639
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,160
Speaker 1: making it happen. Thank you the President of Barack Obama. Yeah,

1640
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: he was. He was like two three minutes late. We

1641
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,680
Speaker 1: almost decided not to do the interview because he was

1642
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: running a little late. I was happy. I was happy

1643
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:04,559
Speaker 1: he was on CP time because he's black. Oh felt good. Now.

1644
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 1: His schedule was jam packed though. He was doing a

1645
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: lot of different things, so I know stuff went over.

1646
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 1: We went over, Yeah, we definitely went over. So it

1647
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: was it was just a great interview. So shout to

1648
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 1: again his whole team and the president, President of Barack Oba.

1649
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 1: A great way to um, you know, celebrate ten years.

1650
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: It'll be ten years on December six with this old

1651
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Yep. You know what I'm saying. We've grown

1652
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: and we've evolved a lot. You know, from our very

1653
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: first guests being Ray J to today and if you're

1654
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: in President of Barack Obama, life being good. Isn't God good? God,

1655
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 1: it's so great. But you got to be open to

1656
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: growth and evolution. Or you know what I'm saying. People

1657
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 1: limit themself because they boxed themselves. And you know, you

1658
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 1: can't be afraid to grow, you can't be afraid of evall. Yep,

1659
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, they're all right. Well when we

1660
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: come back positive note do moves to Breakfast Club. Good morning,

1661
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: the morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Yee, Charlemagne the guy.

1662
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Don't forget this. Saturday is

1663
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: my virtual car show, all right, something I put together

1664
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: myself where you can use your iPhone, your iPad, your droids,

1665
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: your computer to check out. You know, close to one

1666
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: hundred cars, the exotic cause cars from the nineties era,

1667
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: regular cars, hyper cars, exclusive cars, all different things. You

1668
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: can go inside the cars. You can see every aspect

1669
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 1: of the car, and then there's short videos about the car,

1670
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 1: whether it's me talking to the celebrity or me talking

1671
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: to the owner of the car, or me just explaining

1672
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 1: in the car car show is it's it's amazing. So definitely,

1673
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: um check it out. If you want more information, you

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01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 1: could click the link in my bio. I need glasses

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01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: or something, Nope, you can do it all from your phone.

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01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 1: You don't need glasses and nothing like that. You can

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01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: do it all in like look through it through the phone.

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01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 1: You mean, yeah, Like so with your phone you can

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01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:40,759
Speaker 1: go through the phone and you can move the phone

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01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: and go to parts of the car, so you can

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01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,719
Speaker 1: get in the car. You can see the staring wheel,

1682
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: you can come back out place the video and everybody

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01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 1: talking about you walk in through the virtual video. Two. Yes,

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01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: so what happens? I tell you here? It goes ahead?

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01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: He said, it's easy to get inside the car. Correct

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01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 1: inquiry mind one to get inside DJV on this rotual app,

1687
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 1: you guys, I thought we just had an elevated day.

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01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 1: This guy, and listen after that car show, don't forget that.

1689
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Junior Fighters definitely happening. Yes, yeah,

1690
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: there's a great weekend. Mike Tys and Roy Jones fight.

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01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: I think it's the twenty fifth year anniversary of Mary J.

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01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 1: Blige My Life. The reason I know that is because

1693
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 1: My Life came out on my wife's born day, and

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01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: it's my wife's born day this weekend. So okay, yeah,

1695
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 1: it's great. Hey, listen to man while everybody's at home.

1696
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: Taking advantage of Black Friday sales, Please pre order Tamika

1697
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: Mallory's upcoming book. It's titled State of Emergency. It's available

1698
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: wherever you pre order books right now. Okay, support our sister.

1699
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: Our sisters always on the front lines fighting for us,

1700
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:52,160
Speaker 1: so you know, now is your turn to assist her.

1701
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 1: You know people are always asking how can I help

1702
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,000
Speaker 1: and tell freedom? Well, this is one way. God damn it.

1703
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 1: All right, go out there and support m Tamica Mallory

1704
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 1: and her new books, State of Emergency. It comes out

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01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,640
Speaker 1: made eleventh, but it's available for pre order right now

1706
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: everywhere you buy a book. So, um, make sure you

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01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: grab a copy of that. It's called State of Emergency,

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01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,679
Speaker 1: right they Oh sue my man, mister Todd too. Man, Hey,

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01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: mister Todd, I'm going to meet mister Todd later the

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01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: day to pick up some Sweeperotato pies. Ain't nobody's people.

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01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 1: Tato pid is better than mister Todd. The only person

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01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 1: sweeper tato pie who remotely comes close is my grandma,

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01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: God blessed the dad and my mother in law. Mister

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01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: todds people take. The pies are phenomenal, and I'm going

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01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:30,400
Speaker 1: to pick up a couple of the day for the

1716
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,720
Speaker 1: morrow Tooths. My man, mister Todd, you go ahead with

1717
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: that sweet potato pie all right? Oh I'm gonna get something.

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01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 1: Would you like us? Slight? You know I'm saying he

1719
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: was on a positive note. Man. The positive note is

1720
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 1: simply this man. Um, you confront all you want, but

1721
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,640
Speaker 1: the universe responds to the real you, not who you

1722
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: pretend to be. Breakface club you finish, or y'all dumb