1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back into another episode of MVP the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: I'm your host Tatum Everett, and it's been quite a 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: week since last week's episode. Jared Allen inducted into the 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, the Vikings hosted a successful 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: night practice in front of a record crowd, and the 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: team is currently preparing for their first preseason game of 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season right here at US Bank Stadium. 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: To get us prime for that matchup, is this week's guest, 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Vikings dot Com Senior editor Craig Peters, fresh off that 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: trip to Canton. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: How was it, Craig, Oh, it's fantastic. It's just amazing 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: when you have such a respect for the history of 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: the game. That's really I guess kind of always been 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 2: there and then really went to another level when I 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: started working for the Vikings, just because of the rich 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: history that exists here. Jared is the sixteenth person go 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame that spent all or most 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: of their career with the Viking, So that's pretty special too. 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: He did a tremendous job his speech. I thought the 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: bust looks fantastic. We got we got some flow, some 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: flow right, Yeah, going going into the hall, So that 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: that was I'm just always in awe of the skill 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: that exists with the bus makers and how they capture 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: the essence of these these just remarkable uh players that 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: have impacted the game so much, and you can kind 26 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: of see that in in the finished product of the Bust. 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: You definitely get opportunities to see Jared's personality stand out 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: during the gold Jacket dinner, ripped to see him doing 29 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: the calf roping, but I saw that it was you know, 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: he just had so much fun with it. So that's 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: that's that's great to see, you know, it's it's it's 32 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: a long way from from his college days at Pocatello, Idaho, 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: you know where or a few scouts including Mike Petten wow, 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: really assistant head coach was there working for the Ravens, 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: kind of like on the entry level of the scouting world. Right, 36 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: that's how you go to Pocatello, Idaho and you're looking 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: at this guy who might be able to long snap, 38 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: but then he might be able to edge rush, and 39 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: then you know, it just worked out that way. There's 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 2: been some content so far, We've got more on the way. Yeah, 41 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: really diving into. 42 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: Guys doing a wonderful job. 43 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: Oh well, we try, you know, like you really want 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: to just try to deliver the content that befits the moment, 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: befits the earned honors along the way, and so there 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: is a lot of pride and that we kind of 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: try to take in in relaying those stories, helping connect 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: the fans to one of their favorites. And it's just 49 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: a fantastic opportunity always. 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: I mean to your point about the bust, it kind 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: of jogged my memory of being in New Orleans and 52 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: we followed Jared around. Yeah, he was getting he got 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: his jacket sized. They went over all the jewelry, what 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: the rings would look like. You know, he did a 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: bajillion autographs, but the by far the coolest part was 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: watching them measure him for a bus. And it's an 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: older couple that does it. I think that they I 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: don't know if they've done all of them, but they've 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: definitely done a lot of them. Had a whole book 60 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: of like their work and they were just taking measurements 61 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: by measurements of like all over the face and his 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: wife was like sitting there just writing them all down. 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: They were talking about which photos, he you know, what 64 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: he wanted to look like, things like that. It was 65 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: just a really, really neat experience. So it's no wonder 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: they're very lifelike. I mean he spent probably half an 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: hour with that couple going over what that bus was 68 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: going to look like. 69 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And now that it's been placed in the 70 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame there you think about John Madden and 71 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: Peyton Manning referenced it when he went into the chime 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: in about the bus getting together and talking to each other. 73 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: I bet Jared's bust has some really funny stories to share. Yea. 74 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of let's kind of talk a little bit 75 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: about the weekend in general. So like you guys went 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: out there on a Friday. If I'm not mistaken, we. 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: Get there Thursday day, Okay, logistical Thursday, right, you know, 78 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: you get you get there, the rental car, the drive, 79 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: the you know, all all the travel. But it sets 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: you up for success. That also meant we got to 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: catch him at the at the Hall of Fame game. 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: You know, the video crew photo crew was able to 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: catch him. You know, as the this year's in Chinese 84 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: were participating in the game. They walked a gauntlet between 85 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: the Lions and Chargers right on the field there, and 86 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: you know, you can just kind of see it in 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: their their faces. They just know how how big the 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: weekend is and what it's ultimately leading to, and all 89 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: the work, all the influences on their lives that that 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: have led him to that moment, and uh, you know, 91 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: it's it's great to see football kickoff. 92 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. You kind of forget about there's 93 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: a game in the middle of all this. So you 94 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: wake up on Friday, You've got the Hall of Fame walk. 95 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you take us there? 96 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: Like? 97 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: What is that? 98 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: Like? Yeah, that was really cool. So George Hollis Drive 99 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: starts out in front of the Hall of Fame there, 100 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: and it's kind of fitting because a lot of people 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: don't know, but George Hallis, the founder owner of the Bears, 102 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: was very instrumental and the Vikings being awarded in Minnesota 103 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: being awarded the NFL franchise, right, and then that was 104 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: the first game in franchise history, and Papa Bear was 105 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: on the sidelines and fran Tarkinson came off the bench 106 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: and the magic happened, and you know, like a relationship 107 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: with this community was born forever right, So they just 108 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: walked down George Hollis Drive. You know, you see fans 109 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: of the different players and organizations on hand. I'm met 110 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: a father and son duo. They're in the Chicago Land 111 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: area now. They got tickets for Week one, but I 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: bet the father was wearing the Allen Page jersey and 113 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: knew the backstory of Allen having worked construction on the 114 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame as it was being built in the 115 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: early sixties. And they're so excited for what's ahead for 116 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: this team, what they think it is. And they're ties 117 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: to a White bear Lake too, So that's how the 118 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 2: Vikings fandom started, right, But they're they're all in, you know, 119 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: you could see the passion of the purple and then 120 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: then it's it's just so funny to see the more 121 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: than one hundred you know, gold jackets out there. Stuff. Yeah, yeah, 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: just right down there this year's and Chinese are in 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: like a blue shirt because they haven't been presented the 124 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: old jacket yet because that's later in the evening, right, 125 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: And so then they all gather on the steps in 126 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: front of the rotunda, which is where they used to 127 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: do the speeches a long long time. Okay, so yeah, like, 128 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: if you go back and you look at you know, 129 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: pictures from fran Or Alan's Enshrinement's they're they're standing in 130 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: front of the the rotunda there and it's just kind 131 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: of this undulating hill and everything. And now they have this, 132 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: you know, massive modern stadium that do things from, and 133 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: it's it's just kind of like also just another sign 134 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: of how much the sport has grown through supportive fans. 135 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: And then you mentioned the gold Jacket dinner. The video 136 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: went viral of the first calf roping in a gold jacket, 137 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: and to be fair, like I was watching it a 138 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: few times. I was like, oh, that's cool, and then 139 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: I saw that he split his pants, and I'm not 140 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: gonna lie to you, like I did not even I 141 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: did not even see it the first few times. And 142 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: then once I saw it, I was like, oh, no, 143 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: of course this happened. 144 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: I was seated for that in like the media area, 145 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: and I was just kind of zoomed out getting a 146 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: wide angle on the phone. 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, is that your video? 148 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: No? No, it wasn't. Oh okay, you know me, I 149 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: don't share a lot on social media, so no. 150 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: But I just I wasn't sure if you were the 151 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: one that captured the moment. 152 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I didn't even go back and watch 153 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: it because we've haveved right into wreckon to camp and 154 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: we right right. 155 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you got back here and went straight to work, 156 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: so you get it. 157 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: So, but no, I need to look at that still. 158 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: But I guess they should have taken some measurements for 159 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: pans to allow for calf roping too. While all the. 160 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Other Jared lost a bunch of weight. He takes care 161 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: of his body. He's got a little bit slimmer and trimmer. 162 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: You want to show that off. I guess maybe just yeah, 163 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: that's all I got. 164 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: No, it's fine, he's looking great. It's always funny how 165 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: like guys have had to keep a certain weight to 166 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: play certain positions. Yeah, then they are so good now 167 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: with all the fitness and nutrition. 168 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: I know he's very strict about his diet. 169 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very mindful of that. So that's good. 170 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: And the gold jacket fit him nicely, fitted perfectly. 171 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great. You know, Like it's in the 172 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: Canton Memorial Civic Center and they kind of form a 173 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: gauntlet for the this year's in Chinese and so there's 174 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: gold jackets here, gold jackets there. 175 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you mean by the gauntlet? 176 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: Like, so it's like a row of just seated. They 177 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: had more than one hundred in town, okay, and so 178 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: it's like fifty on each side of this change, and 179 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: they just walk down, get hugs, get dapped up, you know, 180 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: nice whatever, private conversations, just just really big hugs and everything. 181 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: And you know a lot of Vikings representation there. And 182 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: then like I just like the moment for me, you know, 183 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: growing up a child of the eighties and and you know, 184 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: really embracing NFL football in the early nineties. The Buffalo 185 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: Bills of that era was like a team I saw 186 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: a lot in Tennessee. We didn't have the Titans, so 187 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: it was kind of whoever was good was who was 188 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: on TV there, and so they were on a lot. 189 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: So the fact that like if my like eleven year 190 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: old self could know that I had one to like 191 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: be lucky enough to stumble upward into the same room 192 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: as Jim Kelly and Thurman Thomas and Andre Reid and 193 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: James Lofton and Marv Levy, I mean, like you know, 194 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: it's it's like living a dream. 195 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really cool, Craig. I'm really glad you got 196 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: to experience that too. I mean partly, yes, you want 197 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: to do wonder, wonderful job, but like you are a 198 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: football fan and football historian really at heart, so that 199 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: probably was just one of those like full circle moments 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: for you. 201 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: It was really really special. 202 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 1: That was really cool. 203 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: Every fan of football should should make the track at 204 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: least once to Campton. 205 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: Was that your first time? 206 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh no, actually I've been fortunate enough to make three trips. 207 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: WHOA okay, so mctinglehoff. In twenty fifteen, the Vikings were 208 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame game against the Steelers. Stefan 209 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: Diggs had a really long punt return in his first 210 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: ever NFL appearance. And then let's see, in twenty twenty one, 211 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: I was fortunate to go when Steve Hutchinson went into 212 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, and he was like that year 213 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: was kind of a different entity all of its own 214 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: because that he was actually the class of twenty twenty, 215 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: but it was delayed until twenty twenty one because of 216 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: you know, COVID restrictions and regulations and things like that. 217 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: So it was a massive just like it's almost overwhelming double. 218 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: Because it was double the classes, right, Yeah, So yeah, 219 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: I get that. Well, let's go back to the ceremony itself, 220 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: the bust unveiling. The speech. I think Shared's has been 221 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: the one that's probably the most talked about this past weekend. 222 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: A very very viral moment of emotion and humor, which 223 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: we expect nothing less of from the big man himself. 224 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: What really stuck out to you as you listen to 225 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: his speech and the moment with his dad and that 226 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: that moment really stuck out to you. 227 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved what he was able to do with 228 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: his speech. Like I wrote that, you know, he blended 229 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: a trademark, his trademark humor and a humble appreciation for 230 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: everyone who helped his journey. He's so appreciative of how 231 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: things worked out after he arrived in Minnesota. He really 232 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: is the relationships he was able to develop that really 233 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: stuck out to me when he's when he said, I'm 234 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: a firm believer that God puts people in your life 235 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: at the appropriate time, and what you did for the 236 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: growth of my career, but more importantly, the people that 237 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: you surrounded me with in that organization helped me grow 238 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: as a man. That is why I will forever call 239 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: the Vikings my home. 240 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: It's amazing, Like you know. 241 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: Like that's that's really special. You can see the effective 242 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: relationships over time, right, And like you sometimes you're so 243 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: in the moment you don't fully appreciate what everyone is 244 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: pouring into you. And I think he definitely has along 245 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: the way, and even now it's even more of an 246 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: appreciation level. 247 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned that there was like a really 248 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: cool moment. Chris Carter was down at the Pro Football 249 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame when the class was announced in New 250 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: Orleans and they did all the sizing and stuff. Chris 251 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: was in the room and they were by the jewelry section, 252 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: and I was lucky enough to just kind of be 253 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: eavesdropping and and Chris was like, what are you going 254 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: to go in as like on your ring because you 255 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: can get multiple teams on your ring and whatever and whatnot. 256 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: And he goes like, you know, what are you going 257 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: to do? Chiefs and vikings whatever? And It's like, no, man, 258 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? I'm vikings all the way. It's 259 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: always the vikings. And then I love that, and Chris 260 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: was like That's what I'm talking about, you know, And 261 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: and that moment I was like, Okay, obviously, Like this 262 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: is just you know, a really really impactful moment to 263 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: know that, you know, this organization's made that much of 264 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: an impact on Jared and and it was just really 265 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: really cool to see that that interaction between the two 266 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: of them. 267 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: It's it's a wonderful thing to be believed in. Yeah, 268 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: and it's it's a wonderful thing to see someone appreciate 269 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: being believed in the most of that, well, thank you. Well, 270 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: so I feel like, you know, people believed in us 271 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: along our work journeys and you know, like not everyone did, 272 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 2: but enough people did it thankfully, and uh, you know, 273 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: that's that's what happened. And then I thought when he 274 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: like he took it to another level when like I 275 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: love the way he laid it out with fear and 276 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: explaining the right kind of fear that was a motivator 277 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: and then respect act it just and then the pursuit 278 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: of greatness right, Like that's like you you talk to 279 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: anyone teammate or everything, the motor was always going right 280 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: and it was always like trying to inflict his will 281 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: with the maximum force. 282 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Right. 283 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, so there's that that that really struck in. 284 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: But then when when you get the guys talking about 285 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: their family, you know, I mean. 286 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: It's it's always when I started crying, it was. 287 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: It was you know, like it was great to see 288 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: cut onions out there. Somehow I don't know, but it was. 289 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: It was great. And you can just tell how special 290 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: the relationship he and his wife, Amy and Joy and 291 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: their two daughters and everything that's ahead of them and 292 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: and so it's it's just fantastic, you know. And I 293 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: love the way that he kind of you know explained 294 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: after going through he married aal talks with Tom lanfear 295 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: chaplain here, you know, and like the two most important 296 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: things that that he viewed were whether you follow Jesus 297 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: or not and who you marry and those are those 298 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: are you know, decisions and he said, you know, like 299 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: he explained that he considers Amy a true game elevator, 300 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: and yeah, I love. 301 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: That analogy he made. That was really cool. 302 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I feel like that that really really wrung 303 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: rung things home. And you can see how much he 304 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: loves being a dad too. 305 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: Oh, I know, it was really nice. It was a 306 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: wonderful weekend. Thank you for sharing all that insight, because uh, 307 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm so glad I could so cool and obviously, like 308 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: Craig said, his articles are up there on Vikings dot com, 309 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: beautifully written articles on Jared's weekend and uh there are 310 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: some really exciting UH content pieces that will be dropping 311 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: very soon. I don't think we can give too much away. 312 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: No, we won't give it too much away. But everyone 313 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: be on the lookout heading into that week two game. 314 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: He'll be in town and receive the the ring, the 315 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ring ceremony. And if I know one 316 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: thing about Vikings fans in night game, to open a 317 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: season is going to be. 318 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: Crazy, gonna be crazy. 319 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of uh, I should say open a home season. 320 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: I think I made that mistake on TV. I said 321 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: season opener, but then I corrected myself. It's so easy 322 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: to make that that uh flub, just like the wording 323 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: to someone thinks this Vikings seems to be fun to watch. 324 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't disagree. 325 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't disagree to. We're gonna get to that in 326 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: just a second. We've got to take a short break 327 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: here on the Minnesota Vikings podcast. Will be right back 328 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: with more. Spallon Montage is the Twin Cities premier Salon 329 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: and Spad destination and proud official hair sponsor of the 330 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings cheerleaders with three convenient locations ay Dinah, Woodbury, 331 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: and chan Hassen. There's a spalon close to you. Visit 332 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: online at spellon dot com. I did want to talk 333 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: about a couple of the ways that this Viking team 334 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: is remembering Jim Marshall this season. I know that's a 335 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: story that you have been so passionate about being able 336 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: to try and continue his legacy on within Viking fans, 337 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: as well as trying to remind people that he deserves 338 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: to be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Unfortunately, 339 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: he passed recently, and I know that there are a 340 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: few things that this team plans on doing in the 341 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: coming months to remember his legacy. What stands out to 342 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: you about what this organization is doing for him. 343 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's it's really been awesome the way 344 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: that coach O'Connell and Quosi have embraced the history of 345 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: this franchise. Yeah, totally true of the younger generation now 346 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: and they didn't have to really fully appreciate it, but 347 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: it's been so important to him and you can see 348 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: him put actions behind when they say it's important to them. 349 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: Last year, last fall. Right before the season, they unfilled 350 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: the Jim Marshall Captain's Wall. Yeah, that's the last thing 351 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: we see when when we leave on a road trip. 352 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: It's the first thing we see when we get back. 353 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: And it just when players come in through that entrance 354 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: every day. That's that's right there for them too, and 355 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: they can continue to understand what a fourteen time captain 356 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: yeah could mean to to his peers and really lay 357 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: the foundation for for so much of what we enjoy here. 358 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: I've I have a lot of car thoughts about Jim. 359 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: Bud Grant was always careful to to never say he 360 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: had a favorite player. He would always call him a special, 361 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: special player, you know, and uh, but I'm allowed to 362 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 2: have favorites, especially when they are legends. And Jim, I 363 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: don't know what it was, but we just connected instantly. 364 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 2: And I was visiting with with his lovely wife Susan 365 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: recently and like I was like Susan, I thought, I 366 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: was like so so sped. I was like, man, if 367 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: Jim Marshall is this nice to me and this great 368 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: to me, I must be something special. And then I 369 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 2: was like, you know, and then I thought about more, 370 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,719 Speaker 2: and I'm like He's like that to everyone, So I 371 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: had like move my ego back down, but you know, 372 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: you know, but. 373 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: That just kind of shows you the person. 374 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just just the personality, the life well lived. 375 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: I mean, just this this, there's a lot of overlap 376 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: in the adventurous nature of Jim Marshall and Jared Allen, 377 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 2: to be honest, like they had different pursuits. Jim Marshall 378 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 2: was a skydiver, loved the snowmobiles. Jared does the curling 379 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: and lots of other things too, the horses. I mean 380 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: just just really really cool. But like just this, this 381 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: bright light. Never gave up, never gave in. He always 382 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: played hard, he always played smart, he always played Yeah, 383 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: And so I think that resonates. You don't get to 384 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy consecutive starts that began with that 385 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty one opener with Papa bear Over on the 386 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 2: other side looking and I think Jim got traded acquired 387 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: that week in a trade with Cleveland, drove up played 388 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: started that that game, and Van Brocklin, the original coach, 389 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: was in the newspapers crediting him for forcing two interceptions 390 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: after the game, So like it was, it was an 391 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: instant impact for for Jim Marshall here, and and like 392 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: no one could have ever envisioned right like this kind 393 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: of like almost like a dump off trade in in 394 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: some capacities. And Jim had been sick, he was dealing 395 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 2: with encephalitis, so his weighted dropped way down right before 396 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: the start of the season, if I can skid him, 397 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: and just there's there's no better man to come up 398 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: to the iron range than than this guy that has 399 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: just this I right, Yeah, And so in honor of that, 400 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 2: players will be having a decal helmet sticker on on 401 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: their helmets this year. So it's really great to see 402 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: that family is coming out on August seventh for a 403 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: celeb writing Jim Marshall Day and then there we're going 404 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 2: to really try to center piece around Legends weekend this year. 405 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: In Week three, it's it's gonna kick off with like 406 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: an event. And you know, getting to work with Tom 407 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: West and Tracy in the Legends department here, they're they're 408 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 2: so great at what they do and taking care of 409 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: of everyone. And we were talking with Susan and she's like, well, 410 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: do you do you think we should have that as 411 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: part of it. I don't want to take away from 412 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: the legends, and we all kind of like Susan. 413 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: He's the legend of all legends right now. 414 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's front and center. I don't know what to 415 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: tell you the first Like, if I ask anyone anything, 416 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: it will be like, well, I just wish Jim was 417 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: here right right, So like we're gonna be able to 418 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: do that. We're working on some some proper tributes to 419 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: go along with kind of a private friends and family 420 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: event that's going to be at the stadium. But it's 421 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: gonna be great to have the family out at Chaining 422 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: camp and they'll they'll fill that love that you know 423 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: is duly placed toward towards him and his legacy. 424 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I feel like ever since, I mean I've 425 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: only been here for five seasons, will this be my 426 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: fifth season? I just feel like, you know, this organization 427 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: always remembers their own and the impacts from the history 428 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: of it. It's a really really cool thing and it's 429 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: nice to see that continue. Let's kind of talk a 430 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: little bit about what's going on right now, Craig. You've 431 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: been out of training camp the past couple of weeks. 432 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: Feels like we kind of partially live here part time. 433 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: But last night we had night practice. Well so we're 434 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: recording this on Tuesday, so like night practice on Monday, 435 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: energy was high. I thought there were a ton of 436 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: people really excited to see what this Vikings team was 437 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: all about. Which players kind of stuck out to you. 438 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: I know, it's just a practice. It was pretty mild 439 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: and whatnot. I would say. I thought, well, Reikert, you know, 440 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: he didn't miss. That was great to see. 441 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: You had a great night. Yeah, that's it's always good 442 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: to see that momentum and just like you know, they 443 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: take it back a couple of steps through the uprights, 444 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: take it back a couple more through the upright. I 445 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: like that his first kick was a forty eight yarder 446 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: at the end of a two minute drill too, which 447 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: is very game scenario. 448 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: Like very much. 449 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was the developed developmental excuse me out there, 450 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: developmental offense versus developmental defense. That's that's an O'Connell terminology. 451 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: But you know, some would say like third string deeper. 452 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, so it was it was nice to see that. 453 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, like the whole night, I'm just thinking, wow, 454 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy wasn't even part of night practice last year 455 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: because we had had the preseason drill and then right 456 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: before night practice we had the press conference announcing he 457 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: was not going to be participating, and then within the 458 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: week we're in Cleveland and surgery and season is you 459 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: know now rehab season, right. Yeah, Wow, he's worked hard, 460 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: He's crazy. 461 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: What does huh? 462 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: He's definitely got a good, good growth attitude, right, And 463 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: like he was using the mobility a little bit more 464 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: than I think I've seen him do so far earlier 465 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: in camp too. Yeah. 466 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you haven't seen him kind of run run too much. 467 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: He's been really focusing on staying in the pocket. 468 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a that's a pocket that's under some pressure, right, 469 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 2: because this first this defense is coming in waves, and 470 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: you can definitely clearly see the impacts that Jonathan Allen 471 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: and Javon Hargrave have had up front and what that 472 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: can kind of create for that next wave. Plus you 473 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: couple that with the edge presence that a Grenard of 474 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 2: Van Kinkel and a Dallas Turner are going to provide, 475 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 2: and I mean it's it's a really deep front seven. 476 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: Like I don't envy people trying to sort through who 477 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: winds up on the fifty three on that side of 478 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: the ball. I mean, it's it's just been really impressive. 479 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: And conversely, you can you can also kind of put 480 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: in your mind, well, the offensive line that was rebuilt 481 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: over the offseason is still kind of getting back together, 482 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: getting fully. 483 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: Together, right, unhealthy too, right? 484 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, So Will Fries has been out there. That's 485 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: that's been great to see c D big Dog coming 486 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: back for some team snaps already. So it's it's going 487 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: to be interesting to see how quickly that five can play. 488 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: Is one which is gonna be essential, but there's no 489 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: doubt that that unit and everyone on the O line 490 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: will have been battle tested very well. Yes, the other 491 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: caveat I kind of have is like, is the defense 492 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: having to fully respect the run game? Right, like I thought, 493 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones had some really nice runs 494 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: over the night practice. Jordan really made this awesome cut 495 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: down in a low red zone for a touchdown. That's 496 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: obviously a point of emphasis for the Vikings. I believe 497 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: finished with nine rushing touchdowns last season, so I had 498 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: a few more of those in there. Really forced the respect. 499 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: So a lot of low rid zone passing occurred early 500 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: in camp, right, And that's got to be tough, right 501 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: because you just have such little space to fit the 502 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 2: footballs into. Right, Like in the defense is they're all 503 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: this is a pass, right, So like we don't have 504 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: to like even cheat the line or anything like that, right, No, yeah, yeah, 505 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: so's it's really good. I think that they've been very 506 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: mindful and intentional of the challenges that they put in 507 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: front of JJ. I think he's handled them with like class, 508 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: maturity and like that ability to grow from him understanding 509 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: that what he sees out here is just as good 510 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: or better than what he might see in some games. 511 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: Well, and coming up, we've got the first preseason game 512 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: of the year on Saturday against the Texans. It's a 513 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: three pm kick and coach on Monday did say they 514 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: have a plan for JJ McCarthy that he will see 515 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: playing time in this contest. So what should fans expect 516 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: to see? I mean, obviously we don't know. I'm sure 517 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: maybe by the time you guys might be listening, you 518 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: may know more as a listener about the plan for 519 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: JJ than we do in this current moment. But what 520 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: do you hope to see? 521 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: So? Coach of Kin added the caveat that he hadn't 522 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: gone over the full plan with JJ. 523 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, he didn't want, yeah find out in the media, right, 524 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: that's generally a. 525 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: Good rule of thumb. Usually he's juggling all these things 526 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: and trying to figure out when he meets and you know, 527 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: but yeah, I do think that it will be a 528 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: good opportunity. And I feel like there could be quite 529 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: quite a few first team or starters that at least 530 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: get some reps in this one. And I think they'll 531 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: probably shift the focus towards the two joint practices next 532 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: week with New England, and there'll be a high rep 533 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: workload for for those players in those two joint practices, 534 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: And like, he reserves the right depending on how the 535 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: practices go, if if someone needs some more work or 536 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: wants to, you know, like get back in there for 537 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 2: for some more snaps. We'll see how that goes. But 538 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: I do think that there's gonna be just a tremendous enthusiasm. 539 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: You know, fans were able to see like that that 540 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: first little is like you go the ice cream shop, right, 541 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: like the little bitty spoon, Yeah, yeah, right, like and 542 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: then you like that was that was cool? I like 543 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: that yeah. 544 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean we saw, you know, before JJ 545 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: got hurt or injured, we saw him look really good 546 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: in that preseason game. 547 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about that. Yeah, yeah, So 548 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: I think the first maybe the first throw was an 549 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: interception or something like that, and he came rolling back 550 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: through a couple of touchdowns, really showed good pocket presence, 551 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: good pocket movement, some some ability to run on the ground. 552 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: So I feel like like he's gonna be a guy 553 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: that teammates play for. And that can sound cliche, but 554 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: like you can also kind of see it, like and 555 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: coach of Conn's big emphasizer of that strain, that very 556 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: last moment, you know, like that make that final strain 557 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: to make a play succeed, right, And we've seen it 558 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: before with like that last little bit of block enabled 559 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold last year to get a couple of really 560 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: beautiful touchdowns off. And if if if someone else hadn't 561 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: picked up that block or picked up the blitz or 562 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: strained for that final second of executing that block, then 563 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 2: that's a sack or it's a completion something like that. 564 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: So I feel like all of that plays into it, 565 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: and it's it's you can just see this kind of 566 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: relationship building that's occurred, and I think that that's that's 567 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: going to be be fun. And there's there's just nothing 568 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: like live game action, even if it doesn't count in 569 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: the standings there, there's just certain things you can't simulate 570 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: in practice if you're for sure prioritizing taking care of 571 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 2: your players. 572 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean especially that. So if we've talked 573 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: a ton obviously about JJ McCarthy and what he'll be 574 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: able to do, we've touched on the defensive line a 575 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: little bit. Is there another position group that you're going 576 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: to have your eye on during this preseason game? What 577 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: are you excited to see? 578 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think there's a couple of areas 579 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: actually that are of really strong interest. And it's it's 580 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: kind of like a little bit deeper down the depth. 581 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: Chart, right, Yeah, I'm ready to go. Let's dive in. 582 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: All right, all Right, I feel like if you've gotten 583 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: this far in the podcast, you're a Vikings faithful you understand, right. 584 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: You know, like they're they're ready to start saying who 585 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: they're ready to watch? Right. I don't blame let's go, 586 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: but I really been you're a sect the undrafted tight 587 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: end out Stanford first and then Georgia. You know, it's 588 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: as the team's trying to replace Johnny Mount was a 589 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: critical role in the number three tight end. TJ's back, 590 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: Josh Oliver's back, Jian Mont left. They draft Avin Bartholomew, 591 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: but he's he's been sidelined. So Ben is just like 592 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: really really impressed. Bryson Nesbit has made some plays there, 593 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see those guys name to 594 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: really keep an eye on. In the number thirty four. 595 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: Zamaya Va on his. 596 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: He's made some flashy plays at camp, right, Yes. 597 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: He's just he just like kind of Wes West Phillips 598 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: Offens the coronary will talk about corners and he's like, yeah, 599 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: they I just like watching him the ones that don't panic, right, Like, 600 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: so he's a rookie. He hasn't played corner that long 601 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: in his in his football career, to be honest, Wow, 602 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: at least an organized ball. He said he used to 603 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: cover his siblings right in the in the in the 604 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: neighborhood games and everything. But uh so he just like 605 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: he looks like the part, you know, like he's got 606 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: really long links, got good technique. So from from what 607 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 2: I've learned to this point about technique. I'm not a technician, 608 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 2: don't don't like oh right, but uh, I don't want 609 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 2: to get ahead of my ski. 610 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: No, you know, you know, you know, you know your stuff. 611 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: But he looks he just looks the part, you know, 612 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: So it's it's going to be cool to see him 613 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: make that debut, you know, an undrafted I love the 614 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: undrafted guys in this tasty action. And sometimes they come 615 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 2: from big programs that have stadiums as big or bigger, 616 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: you know, especial, So. 617 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: You talk, I mean, you hear coach talk so much 618 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: post draft about like or even nowadays like in camp 619 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: when these guys are like making splash plays, like we 620 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: were really lucky to get a guy to come here 621 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: undrafted for agent, and they don't want to hear us. 622 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: I think you said this about your sec yesterday or 623 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: on Monday that you know, he doesn't want to hear 624 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: that we felt like we got a draft pick with 625 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: him because obviously, you know, the undrafted free agent money's 626 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: a little bit different. But but that's what they feel 627 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: like with some of these guys, that they get these 628 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents to decide to come here because there 629 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: are other teams who are also just as excited about 630 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: adding that diamond and the rough, the you know, Ivan 631 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: paces of the world. I guess this is kind of 632 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: the cornerstone here in the most recent years of of 633 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: what they can do at the next level. 634 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: So absolutely, that's a good game. 635 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: I like that. 636 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: You can go old school, back to Eric Wilson, who's 637 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: back in the second you know, so he was. He 638 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: was like one of the early early forays into undrafted 639 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: free agency. They really panned out really well, and that 640 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: is so critical, especially this year when there were only 641 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: I think five draft picks. 642 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: Yes, that's so true. 643 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: You've really got to mind the depths, and that's that's 644 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: a testament to your scouting department and really projecting who 645 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 2: might still be available. It's a testament to the culture 646 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: and reputation that's being earned here from the coaching staff 647 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: and the you know, the nfl PA report cards. You 648 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: rookies can see those two, right, Yeah, so they can 649 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: they can weigh into factors of of where they sign, 650 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: and I think that I think it all works together 651 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: really well. But it's it's so important to be able 652 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: to mine that the post draft undrafted free agents and always, 653 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: always keep a. 654 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Lookout always, Well the lookout is on Sunday. 655 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: No Saturday. Yeah, I know we're not there yet. 656 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Well that was a Friday and slip. 657 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: Right now, all eyes are now on this weekend as 658 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: the Vikings kick off the preseason game on Saturday against 659 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. It's a three pm kick right here 660 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: at US Bank Stadium. If you can't make it in person, 661 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 1: you can catch it live in action on Fox nine. 662 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: You can tune in to KFA N and the Vikings 663 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: Audio Network to hear the radio team on the call, 664 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: and or you can stream it on NFL Plus if 665 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: you have that. So, Craig, thank you so much for 666 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: taking the time to do this. I know it's a 667 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: busy week. This is a player's day off that we're 668 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: doing this, So enjoy a little bit of a day 669 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: ish off. But back at it tomorrow, huh. 670 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: You know, let's get after it. You know why I 671 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: take off days? If work days are so much fun, 672 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: why take off? 673 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: I love that. Yep, haven't worked a day in your life? Hung, Craig. 674 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: I won't say that, but most days it's it doesn't 675 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: feel like work, that's for sure. And thanks so much 676 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: for having me. Great to be back, and just really 677 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: this season is this for you? 678 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: With the Vikings. 679 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,959 Speaker 2: I got here in twenty fourteen. Okay, so on Week 680 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: four twenty fourteen, So was that twelfth season here? Right? 681 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend to do this. 682 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: This is going to be my sixteenth season overall. 683 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: Wow. Congratulations, thank you, thank you amazing well, thank you 684 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: so much for listening to the Minnesota Vikings podcast. Football 685 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: is back. The Viking season is officially here. Stay tuned though, 686 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: as we will have another episode dropping next week. 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