WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Mike Florio, Marcellus Wiley

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<v Speaker 1>Here it's the final hour on a Wednesday. Ross Tucker,

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<v Speaker 1>the former NFL offensive lineman filling in for Dan who's

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<v Speaker 1>under the weather, got the call last night from Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, heck yeah, I'll come off the bench, be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to roll like I always was as a primarily journeyman,

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<v Speaker 1>even changing my pronunciation I have written down here hulistic

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<v Speaker 1>and iron. I already got the cohonas I get. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good with the cohonas Now. I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 1>said Cojones. So I don't know why I said that,

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<v Speaker 1>They're literally asking for U. It's pronounced cajones Jones, oh Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that I haven't you know when Andy Staples said, uh ross,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually I haven't laughed that hard in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>of those folks. We got a bunch of NFL stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to get to. We spent a lot of time this

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<v Speaker 1>morning on the World Cup and what's going on there

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<v Speaker 1>with the US advancing to the round of sixteen. What is,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Seaton, the format now is there are

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<v Speaker 1>no draws. It goes right to penalty kicks. Now, what

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<v Speaker 1>happens if after the ninety minutes, if still tied, you

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<v Speaker 1>get two fifteen minute periods and then if it's still

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<v Speaker 1>tied after that, then you go to penalty kicks. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the point is like, there's no more point system.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no more draws. No, no, no, yeah, now it's

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<v Speaker 1>sudden death. Yeah, got win to advance. YEP. College football

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<v Speaker 1>Playoff is out. I think maybe Paul he said he

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<v Speaker 1>wants Alabama Ohio State in and he wants TCU and

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<v Speaker 1>USC to lose. That what he said, Paul, No, that

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<v Speaker 1>is I don't want those fan bases on me. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just said that the scenario that could happen if

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<v Speaker 1>TCU somehow lost to Kansas State and USC somehow lost

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<v Speaker 1>to Utah, which are both close spreads. You got Alabama

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State waiting in the wings, and watch out for

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<v Speaker 1>that one. From a TV production standpoint, could happen well.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the sports books, Draft Kings thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good chance. DraftKings has Ohio State's odds to

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<v Speaker 1>win the national championship plus eight hundred. They have USC

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<v Speaker 1>and TCU at plus twelve hundred. So they're basically saying,

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<v Speaker 1>not only do we think us here, we didn't go house,

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<v Speaker 1>date's getting in, and we think they're gonna get in

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<v Speaker 1>to have a better chance. Pretty wild. Yeah, it should

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<v Speaker 1>be a fun weekend. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea Purdue has a strong fan base. I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten at least like ten tweets at Ross Tucker NFL

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<v Speaker 1>from Purdue fans that did not like the Purdue disrespect

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<v Speaker 1>that I put out there. So I'm sorry to boiler

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<v Speaker 1>Maker Nation. It's just I mean, we'll see how the

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<v Speaker 1>game goes looked. That would be highly entertaining. My biggest

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<v Speaker 1>issue isn't with Purdue. My biggest issue is that the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ten West almost never when's the last time look

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<v Speaker 1>this up, Marvin, I don't know who our stat person is.

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<v Speaker 1>When's the last time the Big Ten West won the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Ten championship game? It feels like a long time, PAULI. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna check that, but keep an eye. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Purdue in Iowa, they're good for one major upset a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember a couple of years ago Purdue that took down

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. You know, they're always a good program. They

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<v Speaker 1>never get in the national title picture. Up between Purdue

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<v Speaker 1>and Iowa, they're good for one monster upset a year. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Florido is good for at least one post a

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<v Speaker 1>day over at Pro Football Talk dot Com, actually a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more than that. And I wanted to bring on

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<v Speaker 1>Mike specifically because I know we're gonna talk about Aaron Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know we're gonna have more sell us wildly

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<v Speaker 1>on later to talk about what the Packers should do

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<v Speaker 1>with Aaron Rodgers. Very important when you're talking about the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to understand the money did understand what the

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<v Speaker 1>players options are, what the team's options are, And Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Florio does a terrific job pro Football Talk dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>At Pro Football Talk had a breakdown of exactly why

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really in the Packers hands at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>is that right, Mike, Well, look the packers and hello Rosco,

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. It's been a while. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>worried for two years about Aaron Rodgers wanting to live.

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<v Speaker 1>At some level, they may be worrying about Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to stay at a time when they may be

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<v Speaker 1>ready for him to go. And they've tied their hands

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<v Speaker 1>with the contract they gave him earlier. This year. He's

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<v Speaker 1>due nearly sixty million next year, fully guaranteed. They cut him,

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<v Speaker 1>he still gets the money now. It would be subject

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<v Speaker 1>to offset if he goes somewhere else. But no one's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pay him sixty million next year. They got a

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<v Speaker 1>huge problem. They got a cap issue they'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with. Even if they trade him, the cap hit

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<v Speaker 1>would be crippling. So unless he decides to retire and

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<v Speaker 1>walks away from that sixty million, and he set up

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<v Speaker 1>the contract so he could without financial consequence having to

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<v Speaker 1>pay back money for example, he can walk away. If

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<v Speaker 1>he walks away. Problem solved. They moved on to Jordan Love.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he stays, he's getting that sixty million, and

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<v Speaker 1>what are they gonna do? Put him on the bench

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<v Speaker 1>and pay him sixty million dollars. So if they're thinking now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the time to pivot to Jordan Love. And he

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<v Speaker 1>looked pretty good the other night against the Eagles. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers gonna have a big say and whether that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a wrinkle that the Packers haven't been dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been so worried about him leaving. Now they have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about him wanting to stay when they may

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<v Speaker 1>want him to go somewhere else or retire. So because

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<v Speaker 1>I had heard that it was basically a one year

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<v Speaker 1>deal and then sort of we'll see after that in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what happens, But it sounds like that's only

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<v Speaker 1>from the Rogers perspective and his ability to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of it move on, not really from the Packers perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little surprised, Mike that they seemingly didn't consider

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<v Speaker 1>this possibility that he might play poorly or that they

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<v Speaker 1>might want to move on to Jordan Love, especially since

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<v Speaker 1>next year will be year four for Jordan Love. Like

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<v Speaker 1>they totally kind of gave up on Jordan Love. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's that. I just think that they

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<v Speaker 1>assumed after they saw Aaron Rodgers win back to back

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<v Speaker 1>MVPs after they used a first round pick and a

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick to get Jordan Love. Because they used

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<v Speaker 1>for to trade up to get him, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they expect that Aaron Rodgers to fall off the way

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<v Speaker 1>that he has this year, or the team to fall

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<v Speaker 1>off the way that it has. And with this thumb injury,

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<v Speaker 1>rib injury, Aaron Rodgers openly saying he wants to play

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<v Speaker 1>until they're mathematically eliminated, I think as a practical matter,

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<v Speaker 1>they may be at the point where it's done. We

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<v Speaker 1>see Jordan Love play really well on Sunday night, you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the point if you're the Packers. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>I was a Packers fan, I'd say I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see Jordan Love the rest of the way. Give him

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<v Speaker 1>some reps, get him ready for next year. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what we have. They got to make a decision on

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<v Speaker 1>his fifth year option by May of twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have enough data to come to a good

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<v Speaker 1>decision as to what to do about Jordan Love for

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<v Speaker 1>next year and beyond. So I would be very anty

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<v Speaker 1>about wanting to see what we have with Jordan Love.

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<v Speaker 1>So we know whether or not we've got a successor

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<v Speaker 1>in the building to Aaron Rodgers at a time when

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like Aaron Rodgers is starting to decline, and

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<v Speaker 1>from his perspective, he holds all the cards. He can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever he wants to do. And even if he's

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<v Speaker 1>inclined to retire now, he'd have to be inclined to

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<v Speaker 1>walk away from that sixty million, but he may decide

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<v Speaker 1>to just stick around, just to throw a little wrench

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<v Speaker 1>into the front officer's plan. I mean, we've seen that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of impishness from Aaron Rodgers elsewhere, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a delicate situation. If the packers are thinking, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd like to move on, the worst thing they could

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<v Speaker 1>do is let Aaron Rodgers know that that's what they're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk with Mike Florio here on the Dan Patrick Show

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<v Speaker 1>from Pro Football Talk, PAULI remind me to look up

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<v Speaker 1>impishness during the break well to make sure I fully understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I got it in the conte. Don't act

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<v Speaker 1>like the big dumb rockhead you went to pay. Hey, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot that it was Cohonis instead of co Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>I said col Jones for the nut shot heard round

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<v Speaker 1>the world by Christian Poulisic yesterday. I'm glad by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike you mentioned Rogers comments. I I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the only person that that really bothered that he came

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<v Speaker 1>out and publicly said, as long as we're still in

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<v Speaker 1>it and we're not eliminated, I want to play, which

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<v Speaker 1>Mike creet me if I'm wrong here that intimates that

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<v Speaker 1>if they are eliminated, that he doesn't want to play. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Hall a second, you're making a ton of money, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>And not only that. Do you think David Baktiari, who's

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<v Speaker 1>had three surgeries on that knee and it's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>an arthritic knee the rest of his life, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think he wants to play out the string? You think

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<v Speaker 1>Marcedes Lewis Mike in year seventeen, at thirty eight years old,

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<v Speaker 1>wants to play four or five meetingless games at tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm the only one that noticed those

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<v Speaker 1>comments by Rogers or took him the task on that well.

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<v Speaker 1>And it didn't surprise me because ross I've thought all

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<v Speaker 1>along that the moment they were done, that's when he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna slide the injured reserve because of the thumb injury

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<v Speaker 1>that we didn't know was broken until after. He looked

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<v Speaker 1>horrible in the fourth quarter against the Tennessee Titans, missing

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<v Speaker 1>Sammy Watkins when he was wide open on a drive

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<v Speaker 1>when they could have cut it to a one score game,

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<v Speaker 1>missing Alan Lazard, horribly over the top, getting booed by

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<v Speaker 1>the home fans. Then all of a sudden, we hear

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a broken thumb, and then we hear it's

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<v Speaker 1>an evulsion fraction where the bone and the ligament are tastic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing he's still playing all this stuff that was

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<v Speaker 1>the same injury for the past two months, and he

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<v Speaker 1>looked pretty damn good against the Cowboys four days before.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't look good against the Titans. So it felt

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<v Speaker 1>to me like it was moving toward sliding to injured

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<v Speaker 1>reserve at the right time. And the other thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, mathematically eliminated and done are two different things.

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<v Speaker 1>They may not be mathematically eliminated for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of feels like they're done. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if they lose to the Bears this week and

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<v Speaker 1>they go to their by, I don't think he plays

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<v Speaker 1>on the other end of it. Because of that thumb injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and because they will, as a practical matter, be done

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't beat the Bears. They should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to beat the Bears, though, especially if they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>justin fields. But if they lose in Chicago then they

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<v Speaker 1>are done. Then why not see what Jordan Love can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the guy some reps and figure out what his

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling may be. I am now totally fascinated by the idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike of Jordan Love comes in the last four games,

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<v Speaker 1>plays awesome, looks great. Packers fans are excited, and Rogers

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<v Speaker 1>says the team, Yeah, no, I'm staying. I'm staying. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not retiring. You can trade me if you want. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he had the chance to totally reverse the

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<v Speaker 1>script of him being mad for them screwing him over

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<v Speaker 1>by drafting Jordan Love. He can go if he chooses,

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<v Speaker 1>he can stick it to them to end this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of guys wouldn't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>He strikes me as a guy that wouldn't mind sticking

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<v Speaker 1>it to them on the way out. Well Ross, for

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<v Speaker 1>so much of his career he was a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>stayed away from any type of controversy, he was very

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive about being disliked by anyone, and he's taken that.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll turn over the past couple of years where he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of likes it. I think he kind of digs

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that there's going to be some people who are

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<v Speaker 1>behind him and some people who hate him, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>cool with that. And what better way to be anywhears

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<v Speaker 1>black all the time? What he is with all the black.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he kind of likes this, this bad guy image.

0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the ultimate bad guy to say the Packers sucks

0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:22.920
<v Speaker 1>for you. You owe me sixty million dollars. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to put me on the bench, that's fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want my money. If you want to cut me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, but I want my money. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to trade me, good luck to your salary cap. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to deal with me as the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>for whoever you trade me. Too curious to get your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike on Jeff Saturday, Monday night, didn't call the time

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<v Speaker 1>out yesterday comes out and says he made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>What I thought was interesting, and you and I look

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<v Speaker 1>at some things the same way. There were a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people, especially insiders, Mike, that couldn't wait to pounce

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<v Speaker 1>on a coaching air or a perceived error by Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>I give him credit for taking accountability and saying yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>learning experience. But man, people were salivating. They were waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for that moment to say, see, he screwed up. He

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be the coach. I think. I think. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Mike just froze on us on the zoom there. Either

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<v Speaker 1>that or my question was that good? Anyway? Appreciate having

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<v Speaker 1>Mike on the show. Mike, thank you very much. Check

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<v Speaker 1>him out at Pro Football Talk. Mike obviously does a

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<v Speaker 1>terrific job. The last question I was gonna ask him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny about Florio? Every one of his posts,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, very measured, very professional, except when

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<v Speaker 1>he posts about the Vikings because he's a Vikings fan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny and like, no matter how reason you

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<v Speaker 1>can be in any other aspect, when you're a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a fan. Like he'll tweet, like during the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>game when they came back to win. He's like another

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<v Speaker 1>game where the Vikings can beat the bad teams, but

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<v Speaker 1>they can't beat the good teams. Then they win the game.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, he had them number one in his

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<v Speaker 1>power rankings. PAULI, yeah, I understand it, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it detrol you. But we were discussing uniforms last hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you like the Eagles, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know, I mentioned the Eagles as the uniforms.

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<v Speaker 1>They bothered me because they have so many better options.

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<v Speaker 1>But it really is, when you have a team, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to have a sense of humor about it when

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<v Speaker 1>you could joke about all the other teams. When someone

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<v Speaker 1>comes after your team or says something, it's like, hold

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<v Speaker 1>on you kind of puck her up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just natural. It's like my best friend growing up

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<v Speaker 1>had two brothers and they would fight or whatever, yell

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<v Speaker 1>each other all the time. If I said one word

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the brothers, if I wanted to stop

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<v Speaker 1>them fighting, I would just say one thing to one

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<v Speaker 1>of them and all three of them would turn around immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>and you shut up. You stay out of it. They weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't here for it. I am here for Marcellus Wiley.

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<v Speaker 1>I have actually an awesome Marcellus Wiley story that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I've ever taught him or told him.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have, but I don't know that I have. Yes, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys almost over left. He was with the Bills

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<v Speaker 1>just before you joined the Bills. Is that right? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a better story than that, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to wait to hear when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>edition here of The Dan Patrick Show. Ross Tucker former

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<v Speaker 1>NFL offensive lineman. Those of you watching by the way

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<v Speaker 1>you can see on peacock, I've played for five teams

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<v Speaker 1>in seven years. Although I looked like I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>my home, it's there. I got a Patriots, a Bills,

0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a Cowboys. I actually have two from the artist formerly

0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:12.480
<v Speaker 1>known as the Washington Redskins, and then one Princeton. Yes, Seaton,

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<v Speaker 1>when you were in high school, how the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>you becoming an NFL player. Was it something that was

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind or like on your coach's mind in

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<v Speaker 1>high school or was that sort of far off? Not

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<v Speaker 1>at all, So probably was my dream until like sixth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe My dad's five nine, one hundred and seventy pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like a real late bloomer. So I

0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a broadcaster. I wanted to like work

0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:45.280
<v Speaker 1>for ESPN or be a writer for Sports Illustrated. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I all of a sudden, even in tenth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>I was six foot one seventy five. But then my

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<v Speaker 1>junior year I sprouted and was almost sixty four to

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<v Speaker 1>ten and started getting a couple of scholarship offers an

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<v Speaker 1>interest from my Ivy League schools. But I remember specifically

0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Seaton thinking I'm never gonna be an NFL player, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even good enough for major college Penn State

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<v Speaker 1>or Notre Dame or whatever. So if I can go

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<v Speaker 1>to Princeton or Harvard because of football, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. So not even not even a speck on

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<v Speaker 1>the radar screen. Wow, I would say in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Just thrilled that and enabled me to go to an

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<v Speaker 1>Ivady school, which is really good timing because that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>the story I have for our next guest, who joins

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<v Speaker 1>us every Wednesday at this time. But before I bring

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<v Speaker 1>on Marcellius Wild. He does a great job hosting his

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on the Dan Dan Patrick podcast Network. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he had some interesting things to say about Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>recently on the show. The glaring issue was Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to plays to break down so he can show

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<v Speaker 1>up and show out. And that's something that is not replicable.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not something that you can repeat as a coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a play you can call, Hey, hey, we're

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna run forty two x breakdown play on three like

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<v Speaker 1>stay on script, stick to the script, and Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>is actually better off script. And imagine if you're the

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator or the coach, what player are you calling off script?

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<v Speaker 1>So his inaccuracy, he is showing his ugly head. But

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly that broken inner clock that he always had.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't feel the rush or he wanted the rush

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<v Speaker 1>to come, so he can activate Russell Wilson and go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and just run around in circles and seven

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<v Speaker 1>seconds later complete a path. That is from More to

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<v Speaker 1>It on the Dan Patrick Podcast Network from Marcellis, Marcellas

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<v Speaker 1>does a really good like that. I like that. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the highlight there. Marcellis really appreciate you coming on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Now. I can't remember if I told you

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>this story or not before, but the guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>love this, okay. So Seton just asked me about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>me and the NFL or whatever, and I said I

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<v Speaker 1>was a late bloomer. The first letters I got were

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<v Speaker 1>winner of my junior high school were from Ivy League schools.

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<v Speaker 1>So spring break, okay. I didn't tell any of my buddies,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was doing for spring break because I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go visit Harvard, Yale, and Columbia. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to tell them that because they would have been like, yeah, right, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not smart enough to go there. Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you are? Whatever? I just didn't want to say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I go up to Harvard, see the campus, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>But there was no I didn't see any players. Go

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<v Speaker 1>to Yale, see the campus, meet the coaches. Still haven't

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<v Speaker 1>many players. The first school where I actually saw what

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>IVY League players looked like because I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Donnelly, okay, the great Mike Donnelly. Hey takes me

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<v Speaker 1>into the weight room at Columbia and I'm a junior

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. This is spring break. This would have

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<v Speaker 1>been spring of ninety six. I'm like six four, two thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing my why I'm missing letter jacket because in

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania that's what you do if you want girls, you

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<v Speaker 1>put the letter jacket on. And two players come up

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<v Speaker 1>to me to say hi, Mark Sellis Wiley, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a six y five two hundred and seventy five pound

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<v Speaker 1>d n and Rory Wilfork. Yeah. I were thinking two things.

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<v Speaker 1>One is, these guys are really nice. That's really cool

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<v Speaker 1>they came over to talk to me. And secondly, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even play in the IVY League. Ourselves with like

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<v Speaker 1>six five two seventy five, you had all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my god. And because Columbia was

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<v Speaker 1>historically really bad. Now, I know you guys that year

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<v Speaker 1>you'd been like eight and two, or that next year

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<v Speaker 1>you were whatever. But I was like, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>the Columbia dudes look like. Yeah, you were like, Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>this NFL dream I have is never gonna happen because

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, if these two dudes are in the Ivy League,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell does another Dame player really look like

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<v Speaker 1>in live in person? But you actually just so upset

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind. I couldn't even play in the Ivy League.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so like, oh my gosh, I can't play

0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>against guys like this. But people don't know your story

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 1>real quick before we're getting the other things refresh my memory.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you go to Columbia as like a six two,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred pound running back or something, oh even smaller

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<v Speaker 1>than that. I was a six foot, one hundred and

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 1>eighty pound kick returner slash running back, like I was

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>damned near a tall wark done it. It was crazy.

0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:34.479
<v Speaker 1>And then I just kept putting on weight twenty pounds

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>and I would grow one inch every single year. All

0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.479
<v Speaker 1>my friends knew it was coming. I was a late

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 1>bloomer like you, probably even later. But my mother was huge,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say that respectfully. She was six one, two fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like Mike Singletary and here I am in

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<v Speaker 1>college playing football and I'm smaller than my mom. So

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:58.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone knew it was coming. It just happened on Columbia's watch.

0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>So there's two funny things about that. Marcellis number One.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife and I talked about this all the time

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<v Speaker 1>because she was with me during my seven years in

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Some guys have big dads, some guys don't.

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Every guy has a big mom. Every guy has a

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>big mom. Do you know any NFL lineman whose mother

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:25.280
<v Speaker 1>is not a bigger woman? Oh yeah, oh yeah, of course.

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's how Thanksgiving dinner gets cooked, and then

0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:31.920
<v Speaker 1>that's how those players grow because mama had the triceps

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>hanging and big Mama was in the kitchen. So yeah,

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>my mom was gigantic. And I used to always just

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>sit there like guys would tease me, but like, your

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.600
<v Speaker 1>mom's huge, and you know, it's just jokes. And I

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, one day that's gonna pay dividends, y'all, and

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 1>if Iley turned into a signing bonus. Talking with the

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Great Marcellis Wiley, former NFL All Pro defensive Ben He's

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.439
<v Speaker 1>the host of More to It on the Dan Patrick

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Podcast Network. It's funny because I remember one time I

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<v Speaker 1>said something that my mom about how you know I

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>liked girls like her, Like, you know, she's five nine

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and broad, her shoulder, not as big as your mom,

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>but brought her shoulder and five nine. I said, I

0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>don't because back then, um, Marcellis, the models were like

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Kate Moss and stuff. So like any of the magazines

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>about they were like, like way forer thin. I was like,

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not into that. I like, I said, I said,

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>like you mom, you're big but beautiful. And my dad

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>looked at me, Marcellis, like you're dead, You're dead. And

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>my mom said she took a sip of like her wine.

0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>She's like, well, you know, Ross, I looked different before

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I had a ten pound baby. It was so let's

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>get into a couple of these football things. The Russell

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Wilson point you made is a really good one. I

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 1>thought it was interesting. Marcellis hearing or seeing I guess

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Mike Purcell go after Russell Wilson in the game, or

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>at least go up to him, because Dan asked me

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<v Speaker 1>about it on Monday, and I said to him, I

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know the tone there. Was it like encouraging, like

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>come on, man, you can do this, or was it like, hey, bro,

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>get your you know what together? Because to me, Marcellas,

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 1>those are two very different things. Yeah, they're two different things.

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>But you don't have to know what the tone was

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to know that this was in subordination. And this is

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to happen. When Russell Wilson, your franchise quarterback,

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>is going through his struggles, your team is going through

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 1>his struggles, the head coach is going through his struggles.

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 1>So you know that any conversation that has that type

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.679
<v Speaker 1>of look, we know what the context is, and we

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>know how we're gonna interpret it, it's gonna be contentious.

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>So now you have a lineman, I don't give a

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:52.120
<v Speaker 1>damn who he is coming up to the star quarterback

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and trying to check him on the sidelines. You only

0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>do that when you're losing respect for who that guy is,

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you, let us reputation should precede him. He's a

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>future Hall of Famer, he's a champion. You know, he's

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 1>your franchise quarterback, and you let one slide, you let

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>another pass slide, you let another quarter slide, you let

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>another game slide, and finally you're at your wits end

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, dude, I don't give a damn who

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you are, blah blah blah. So that showed me that

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.439
<v Speaker 1>this is not only something that Russell Wilson has to

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>deal with losing respect on that team, but more importantly,

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>how many guys have he lost, because you know, when

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>one guy comes up to you, he's fueled by ten

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>other guys who want to say the same damn thing.

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>So the one thing I really liked about the point

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you made on your podcast More to It part of

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the Dan Patrick podcast network, is how so much of

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>what Russell's done over the years is the second reaction stuff,

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>which is why I'm not really buying the new offense

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>thing that much, because what's always made him a special

0:27:56.240 --> 0:28:00.239
<v Speaker 1>player is the second reaction stuff. I don't know if

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>he has anymore, I don't know if he can do

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>it anymore. And if he doesn't have a second reaction stuff,

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>he's got a problem. And Denver's got a major problem. Yeah,

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>if you think about it, Russell Wilson has thrived off

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of Plan B in terms of play calling for so long,

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and now because he's not honed in on those fundamentals

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Plan A, staying on scripts, staying on schedule, it seems

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's a little too late to try and fix

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>his issues. I don't know what's going to be to solve,

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>but it won't be different play calling because Russell Wilson,

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>his reflexes are to always let the play break down,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>not to stay on that first read, second read, and

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>then try to build out or Russell Wilson likes to

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>build out first, and that's when he has the most success.

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>So you think about it, it's been really disguised because

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 1>he's had a tremendous defense in Seattle the early years especially,

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and he had the running game in Seattle. So now

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you're in just the play action passing, safer passes and

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>also a time for you to take off and get

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>big dividends. Now they're just saying, look, we know what

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you like to do, Russell Wilson, so we're gonna take

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 1>that off the board. Now you have to beat us

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>by being disciplined. Now you have to beat us by

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 1>that strict play call. And Russell Wilson so far as

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>felling at it. Curious to get your take on Jeff Saturday.

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And I know you've talked about him being a coach

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>with Dan the last couple of weeks, But what about

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>what happened Monday night not calling the time out and

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>then yesterday Jeff accepting accountability for it and saying that

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>he made the mistake. What did you think of that? Look,

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it's two things conflating as one. I've seen Bill Belichick

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>have coaching mistakes misq's errors. I can remember a fourth

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and two in Indianapolis a few years ago. Like every

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>coach has this mistake on their resume. The thing is

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>when you don't have that deeper resume, let's not have

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that mistake. Ha and too early, because now we're gonna say, see,

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that's why he's unqualified. See this is why you shouldn't

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>skip the line. Well, the greatest coach of all time

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>on down has had this same clock management issue before.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the game that said, this is

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>how you take your lumps, this is how you go

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>through the growing pains, This is the rights of passage

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.719
<v Speaker 1>in terms of making a mistake, owning that mistake, and

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>making sure that's something you never do again. And that's

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>how we learned the game as well. How many times

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>did you come back from a game, whether it was

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a glowing performance or one that made you put your

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>head down and then you start watching film and coach

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>gets that red dot on you and he said, see

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>this right here, see this right here, And then next

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>time you're out there, you're only cognizant of it because

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>it was highlighted as a misque. So for me and

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Saturday, I thought it was a good hire. I'm

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>getting really tired of the same old rigamarole of okay,

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you're assistant coaching, then you become a coordinator and your

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>team is top five as a coordinator and defense and offense.

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 1>And then you become a head coach and you're going

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>to fail because you're going to a bad team in

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>a bad organization, and the cycle continues. So hey, shake

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it up a little bit, and Jeff Saturday is gonna

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>learn the hard way. But I still think it was

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>a good hire. Marcel's if you were running the show

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>in Green Bay, let's I don't care if you're the

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>head coach la Floor, maybe you're the GM Kuda Kunst,

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>how much longer are you rolling with Aaron Rodgers this year?

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Or when are you trying to see what you got

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>in Jordan Love for the rest of the year. I mean,

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a question that's too late to ask right now

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>because you committed three years, one hundred and fifty million

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to them. But I get the gist of what you're saying.

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to see Jordan Love. When I have

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that type of commitment to a first ballot Hall of Famer,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>top ten, top five quarterback of all time, I'm riding

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it to the wheels fall off. And we know that

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the wheels could fall off this year mathematically, once they're

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>eliminated from the playoffs, the injuries won't be my concern.

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.280
<v Speaker 1>If I'm the coach, if I'm the general manager, if

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm an organization, if he wants to play, he will

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>play because we committed to him and he's committed to

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>this game. Jordan Love. I've seen Jordan Love. Jordan Love

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>practices every day. Geordan Love is in the games last year.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>We know what Jordan Love is and it's not Aaron Rodgers.

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>And probably not a good enough version or portion of

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers for you to feel full confidence. If he were,

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>we would have seen him earlier. They would have changed

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>the narrative last year and allowed him more opportunities. So

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to say, now I want to go back to Jordan

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Love because Aaron Rodgers has heard and the team is bad.

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's just see where we have. That's fool's goal. This

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 1>is what happens to every team that hits subversity, every

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>team that goes through their ills. The most popular player

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>on that team is the backup quarterback because he holds

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>everyone's imagination, everyone's oh we put him in everything can change,

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and most times that's a feeling situation. We already know

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>who Jordan Loved is. This is not the time to

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>see more. Make sure you check him out. Marcellus Wiley

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>on More to It on the Dan Patrick Podcast Network

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>this week. Marcell's gonna tell you why OBJ should be

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 1>wearing that star on the side of his helmet soon.

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>How Deshaun Watson got in this predicament just days before

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>his return, which weirdly we're not really talking about all

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>that much, and how TiO was lucky he didn't get

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>more than he paid for at CBS. Marcello's really appreciate

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>the time. Thank you so much. All right, take care

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>of if you keep it going ross. All right, there

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>he is Marcellis Wiley, the guy that made me feel

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>like I couldn't play in the Ivy League. That was wild.

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking, oh boy, I'm in trouble. Forty minutes

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>past the hour. We're gonna chime in on that, and

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I think we gotta say something about this Deshaun Watson

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>situation as well. It's kind of weird that nobody's talking

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 1>about it. We'll dive into that when we return here

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<v Speaker 1>James Vanderbeek in your life. Yes, Paulie, all right, well

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<v Speaker 1>we got do you see the UAB story for us?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, you know you played in the NFL. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>all these NFL guys are getting jobs. I did you.

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<v Speaker 1>AB offered Trent Dilfer the job. He doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of coaching experience. I'm telling you could be next.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find out small college looking for a head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Light on the experience, Ross Tucker. But why would I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that? I mean, coaching is Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, I think it's really interesting about this. With

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<v Speaker 1>so many guys doing it that used to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the media, like Dion and Dilfer, it must be awesome

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<v Speaker 1>because I know the hours they put in. I did

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<v Speaker 1>two UAB games this year and they got an unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>new stadium down there. I mean, it is you beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>in Birmingham. They have good support of that program. Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Clarke did an unbelievable job of building that program, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Brian Vinson did a fine job this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand them looking elsewhere, but that's an interesting hire,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think Colorado offered Dion the job, But

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<v Speaker 1>to Dion's credit, he's kind of paid his dues now

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<v Speaker 1>with what he's done at Jackson State, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a good hire. I think it is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Dilford's what been a high school coach for

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<v Speaker 1>a few years, PAULI. Yeah. And the exciting thing for

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<v Speaker 1>us is fans, is that if Dilford does well at UAB,

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<v Speaker 1>we could play this great, great clip from when he

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<v Speaker 1>was on Sports Center about ten years ago. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>lose games in the NFL and still win. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we can bring dust that one off. That is such

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<v Speaker 1>a classic, classic statement. And you know what's interesting, I

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<v Speaker 1>know what he was thinking, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what was in his head when he said that,

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<v Speaker 1>that is, you cannot lose games in the NFL and

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<v Speaker 1>still win. Argue with that, what, um, what's this day

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<v Speaker 1>in sports history today? How do you have todays history? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>couple nineteen seventy one, ABC Air. The movie Brian Song

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<v Speaker 1>is a TV movie about Chicago Bears running bick Brian Piccolo,

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<v Speaker 1>who died of cancer, and his friendship with Gayale Sayers.

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<v Speaker 1>Try watching that without crying. Let's see. The NFL ninety

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<v Speaker 1>three awarded the league's thirtieth franchise to the Jacksonville Jaguars,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the first Women's World Cup in Soccer USA,

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<v Speaker 1>defeated Norway two to one nineteen ninety one, who was

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<v Speaker 1>the thirty first team the same year as Jacksonville Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct. That's correct. By the way, how about this

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<v Speaker 1>stat from our folks over at sport Radar. The Big

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<v Speaker 1>Ten East is eight and o in championship game winning

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<v Speaker 1>by an average of twenty points. Last four games have

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<v Speaker 1>been decided by at least twelve points. Not real good

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<v Speaker 1>guard day stat of the day, That beast stat of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Stat of the day here comes that? What

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<v Speaker 1>stat of the day. I haven't heard that in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it? Yes, Eton, Can I update you on

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<v Speaker 1>a poll question here that we put up earlier today? Yes? Please?

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<v Speaker 1>Macaroni and cheese is best as your options? Wear a

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<v Speaker 1>meal a side a condiment. I'm a fraud. People, pick side.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. Yeah, over eighty percent of the vote have

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<v Speaker 1>it as a side, and I think that you're just

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<v Speaker 1>a little too progressive right now. The world isn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>ready for macaroni and cheese as a condiment ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>your time. That only got three percent of the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to say. I feel like I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we need a better term for it. Like, what did

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<v Speaker 1>you say, PAULI? An accompaniment? Yeah, accouterment, an accompaniment, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like a mixer. I feel like what's hurting us is

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<v Speaker 1>the term condiment, and people thinking of like squeezing something

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<v Speaker 1>out of a bob. So it's being hurt by a

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<v Speaker 1>bad visual. This is all marketing, Yeah, don't it's don't

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<v Speaker 1>play bad visual and it's a bad um verbiage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really an accompaniment. Yeah, don't play mac and cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Blame us. Listen, it's not a side. It's not that

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<v Speaker 1>good as a side, you know how. I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that good as a side because Seaton only Seaton

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<v Speaker 1>only wants to take two or three bites of it

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<v Speaker 1>then he's done. That's exactly why it's a perfect side. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a perfect accompaniment. I know you only want two

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<v Speaker 1>or three bites Seaton because it's too rich. Exactly, it's

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<v Speaker 1>too much for you. Like I totally get that. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when you mix it in with a protein like

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<v Speaker 1>a ham or a burger or a brisket or pulled pork,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's perfect and it's not too rich. They balanced

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<v Speaker 1>each other out. So if you went to if you

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<v Speaker 1>went to a place for lunch, right this show's over,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go grab lunch and on the menu they

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<v Speaker 1>have a burger, or they have a burger with mac

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<v Speaker 1>and cheese. You're gonna go mac and cheese on your burger? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am what? Wow? Yes I am. That's delicious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna eat a burger with nothing on it?

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<v Speaker 1>But like just go like some cheese minus the mac cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>or bacon and cheese, or a Friday egg bacon and cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>or a Friday egg bacon, cheese and mac and cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Delicious fries. Pollie, I wish we had another hour. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the bad things. It goes so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>They got I want to know what we learned today.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned you growing about ten minutes and where Krichan

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<v Speaker 1>Pollisa grew up in Central Pennsylvania. How about that seton

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<v Speaker 1>I learned we I don't know what the over under

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<v Speaker 1>was on the ways to describe genitals, but we I

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<v Speaker 1>think hit the over Marvin. The number was twelve. Oh nice,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have a lot of cajones to play big

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<v Speaker 1>time soccer. I learned how to pronounce Cohn as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I've still got it wrong as well as I think

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<v Speaker 1>how to pronounce the name of the country that the US.

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