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Speaker 1: What is a bauchlor Happy our listeners, thanks for joining

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Speaker 1: us again this week, and thanks Tasha for joining me again.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you. That's right, honey, I ain't

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Speaker 1: going nowhere. I'm ruding this thing to the end. What's up?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great? Speaking of running, before we

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Speaker 1: get any into anything from last night's episode, you had

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Speaker 1: a big week. You just ran the New York Marathon.

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Speaker 1: Please tell us all about it, because I just saw

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Speaker 1: you struggle to walk about five feet, so I know

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Speaker 1: that your body is sore, but you crushed. Shit. I'm

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Speaker 1: so proud of you, but I want to hear more

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Speaker 1: from your experience. Yeah, it was absolutely incredible. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I realized what I signed up for until honestly,

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Speaker 1: seconds before we started running. I started hyperventilating and freaking

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Speaker 1: out and truly trying to figure out how I can

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Speaker 1: run out of the stands. But you know, I have

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Speaker 1: to say it was the most incredible experience, and I

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Speaker 1: was doing I was. I surprised myself with like how

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Speaker 1: well I was doing. It wasn't until like mile like

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Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen where I was like, Okay, hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me, I still got like seven

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Speaker 1: to eight more to go, Like I was like starting

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Speaker 1: to tap out, like my body started. It was started

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Speaker 1: to like cramp up if you will. But I will say,

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation, y'all are some crazy ass fans, and I

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Speaker 1: love you because you guys helped me get through all

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Speaker 1: of that. All over New York City, everyone was cheering.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like ultimate MVPs and it was the craziest

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Speaker 1: experience of my life. It was the crazy experience of

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Speaker 1: my life. I loved it so much. I can't wait

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Speaker 1: till next year. Yes, I'm already talking about next year.

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Speaker 1: But this year I trained, but I didn't train how

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Speaker 1: I would normally, you know, expect to train for a marathon.

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Speaker 1: But next year's freaking on. I'm very proud of my

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Speaker 1: time this year, but it's on next year. I'm just

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Speaker 1: proud of you for doing it. In general, we're signing

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Speaker 1: up in general coming from somebody who I can maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm in my brain like I don't want to keep

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Speaker 1: thinking so much. Like I just I'm not a runner,

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Speaker 1: So I so admire anyone who runs, not only like

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Speaker 1: a full marathon that's crazy enough, but even a half marathon,

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Speaker 1: like Tasha, I've never even done a five k, which

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Speaker 1: this year, I mean, well we'll add it to January

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Speaker 1: for my New Year's resolutions. That might be one of them,

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Speaker 1: just to start a five k. But I'm so proud

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Speaker 1: of you. I'm so proud of There was action a

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Speaker 1: lot of people from Bachelor Nation who ran. Obviously Zach

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Speaker 1: was with you. I saw Pilot Pete did it. I

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Speaker 1: think Tyler did it, Doctor Joe, like just so many people.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible to see im. I just and like you said,

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Speaker 1: the fans, I mean I was. I was seeing everything

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Speaker 1: online in different news articles on Instagram, taking everyone. I

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Speaker 1: have to imagine, like is that kind of what helped

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Speaker 1: that kind of help get you through? Oh? Yeah? It

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Speaker 1: was almost like bad to the point where I was

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Speaker 1: like exerting so much energy freaking out over everybody else.

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Speaker 1: if you guys could feel the energy, it was the

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Speaker 1: most insane thing in the way. I encourage you if

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Speaker 1: if you have the opportunity to definitely be a cheerleader

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines because those runners need it more than anything,

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Speaker 1: and it's so awarding to yourself. It's so emotional to watch.

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Speaker 1: It's just incredible. Oh man, well I will be on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines cheering you on next year. I you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think I can do that many miles.

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Speaker 1: I don't have it, but I okay, together, Okay, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I would love Yeah, we should actually Okay, everyone holds accountable.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it when it's like not too hot, not

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Speaker 1: love that. But hopefully you have the rest of the

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Speaker 1: last night's episode, because I can't believe we're already a

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Speaker 1: up and be extremely vulnerable. In fact, we have a

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Speaker 1: But I think everyone's starting to really fall in love

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Speaker 1: with this season. I have, I have some favorites obviously.

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Speaker 1: How about you? How are you feeling? I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 1: I like when people go home, but I just like

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have olimde on today and why we

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Speaker 1: You know, he was more out of the drama. This week,

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Speaker 1: he really stepped up and shined in Michelle's eyes and

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Speaker 1: One thing that really stuck out to me is Michelle

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Speaker 1: And this is something that you had mentioned just on

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Speaker 1: that date was extremely emotional for her, and I think

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Speaker 1: to talk to them, but like you don't want to

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Speaker 1: And but when she said, like, I'm not going to cry,

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Speaker 1: literally ripped to shruds at that day. Okay, it was

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Speaker 1: just like how you said, like Michelle's like maturity really

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Speaker 1: just like continues to show and how vulnerable did she

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Speaker 1: have to be in order to pull those guys aside

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour All of Me Day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us today. How the heck are you?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? I'm great. You know I'm feeling good. Uh,

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Speaker 1: know I'm only driving right now. Cheers Fretty one, two three, cheers. Yes, hey,

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Speaker 1: I can take some bailies in this bit. Bad boy,

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Speaker 1: All of Me Day, Thank you for joining us. I

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Speaker 1: also want to hear how you got on this crazy show. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really good today. I just thank god I'm

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Speaker 1: This producer that I met a lot back, and Kellie,

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Speaker 1: So are you based in California? So? Um? I was

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Speaker 1: Hey do you want to find love on the Bachelorette?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, why not? You know, And honestly

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Speaker 1: entire Jamie situation. I'm assuming you weren't super close with

427
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: him just from what it sounds, But what were your

428
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,239
Speaker 1: thoughts on that. What were your thoughts when you and

429
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: the rest of the men found out that it was

430
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: actually him who had you know, brought up these weird

431
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: rumors to Michelle. Yeah, honestly, I wasn't even completely shocked

432
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 1: when I found out that it was Jamie. Um, you know,

433
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of the guys in the

434
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: house they kind of like looked up to Jamie. They

435
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: saw him as like this idol, this guy you know,

436
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: and me, I'm just sitting back, like too many people

437
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: are giving this guy too much respect, like guys in

438
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: the house asking them for advice, and you know, it's like,

439
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: why are you gonna do that? Like, you know, we're

440
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: fighting for love, You're gonna you know, stooped down and

441
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: ask this man for advice, you know, like he's your father.

442
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: So um, but yeah, I was just you know, I

443
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: was into shot that was it was Jamie. Spreading the rumors.

444
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: You know, I kind of suspected him seemed like a

445
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: little like a little rat interesting, Like I was just

446
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna say about that, Well, what was it about him?

447
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Like it was it just like the energy you got

448
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: and just like the vibe and you just kind of

449
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: like run just you know, on guard. Yeah, definitely. Um,

450
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: he was just super super positive. You know, like I'm

451
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: very good at reading people. I trust my intuition. He

452
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 1: was just super positive, you know, like nothing got under

453
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: the skin, and I'm just like, I'm like, I was

454
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: just questioning, you know. Yeah, it's like nothing nothing faced

455
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: nom at all. So um, you know, I just kept

456
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: my guard up. You know, I didn't really communicate with

457
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: him too much, but you know I always knew to

458
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: keep keeping eye on him. You knew you could tell

459
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: we were actually for you got on. We're talking about

460
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: women's intuition and how Michelle has a very good sense

461
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: when it comes to that, and you know, when she

462
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 1: feels something off, she's very quick at being decisive. And

463
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, as we saw I got rid of Jamie,

464
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: she got rid of Ryan Knight one Yeah. Yeah, but okay,

465
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: so this week we saw two one on one day,

466
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: it's obviously Rick had one, but then also Martin had one,

467
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: who we find out on that date, Martin and Jamie

468
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: had been very close in the in the house. How

469
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: did you feel seeing him get that one on one? Yeah, honestly,

470
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: I was. I was kind of pissed, you know, I was.

471
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: I was pissed that every guy got there one on one,

472
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: but Martin receiving the one on one. You know, honestly,

473
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: I didn't want to question Michelle, you know, uh, you know,

474
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: she's a woman who she feels like, you know, she

475
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, she had a strong connection with

476
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: Martin and that he deserved that one on one. So

477
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of pissed. But at the

478
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: same time, you know, I trust her judgment and uh,

479
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: you know, it's just me patiently waiting for my opportunity,

480
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: my time. Look at that smile as you say it.

481
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm feeling you did say, though, like you're like, I'm

482
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: a little nervous because he was best friends with Jamie,

483
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: so um, and then watching that back obviously um, they

484
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: obviously had a conversation about that, and but he ended

485
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: up getting your rose at the end, and he continued

486
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: to stay but going on to you. You were on

487
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: the slumber party group date. Yes, at any point during

488
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: the group date, did you have any idea that how

489
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 1: Michelle was feeling? And because watching it back, I'm sure

490
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: you were kind of Let me take it back a second.

491
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: I just jumped. You're on the summer party group date.

492
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: How do you feel getting those pajamas? Did you think

493
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: you guys were gonna pay um let's see rumble umble fight. Yeah, yeah,

494
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: not see these rompers. Like, honestly, I'm just I'm happy.

495
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm happy I don't have the little flat on the back.

496
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: You know, I think Romeo had it when we all

497
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: got the pajamas. You know, everyone's face was just like

498
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: in complete disbelief, like, Lord, what in the world are

499
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: we wearing? You know, I was honestly trip tripping for

500
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: wearing their vompers. I'm not a huge fan of rompers,

501
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: but hey, you know, you're hard when you have to

502
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. I don't blame you. They suck

503
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times. Oh well, I guess if you're

504
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: a dude, it's different. It's very different. I don't think

505
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: it's easy for you guys. What was did you like

506
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: that date? It was it was. I mean, like, for me,

507
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: I would have had such a blast because I like cheesy,

508
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: corny things like that. But you know, you're eating cotton

509
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: candy and your Jamason, you're the Teddy Bears, and it's

510
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: just like it seems like a pretty well at the beginning,

511
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: it seems like a pretty relaxing, chill date. So when

512
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: Michelle opened up those doors and you said the Bella

513
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: Twins and you know that you had to kid in

514
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: that ring and fight with the Teddy Bears, what were

515
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: you thinking? Oh, so, yeah, let's I guess let's start

516
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: with the Build a Bear day. Yeah. So initially I

517
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: walk in, I see a build a Bear and stuffed animals,

518
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, like, is this really the date we're doing? So,

519
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, the first thing I do is, you know,

520
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: I go by the Petticare station start, you know, soaking

521
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: my toes and do like a facial too, and I

522
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: think me and Romeo were like feeding each other cucumbers.

523
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, so yeah, um, I'm honestly

524
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: thinking like this is the only date. And next thing

525
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: you know, they opened up the doors and boom, I

526
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: see the Bella Twins in the ring and I'm like tripping,

527
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: like because I'm a huge WWE fan, so I knew

528
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: who they were. Yeah, I am a longtime fan. You know,

529
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: me and my father, you know, we've um, we've gone

530
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: to WWE matches, Predent Appredential Center and yeah, I'm just

531
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a I'm a big time fan. Yeah, that

532
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: part of the date definitely, definitely so So yeah, as

533
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: soon as I saw them, I'm like, oh shit, it's

534
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: about to get real, like like am I am I

535
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna have to like six one nine someone or you know,

536
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: choke slam somebody. So I want to ask you a

537
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: question though, because, like watching it back, Um, you guys

538
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: look like you guys were having the best time. Like

539
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: you said, you guys are putting face masks on, soaking

540
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: your feet, eating paste, making can candy, and doing the

541
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: absolute most of your summer party. Um, but did you

542
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: know how Michelle was feeling? Like did you know that

543
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: she was kind of feeling not being like she wasn't

544
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: being pursued, she was just kind of secluded and she

545
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: didn't feel like you guys were giving your attention. Yeah,

546
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: this at this point of the date. Um, you know

547
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: I initially wanted I didn't know how Michelle was feeling.

548
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: I thought everything was fine. Um, you know, my intentions of,

549
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, at the date was just too you laid

550
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: back because guys are kind of like vultures and trying

551
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: to get their time with her. So I was just

552
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: kind of laying back. But I had no idea she was,

553
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, feeling any type of way. And it seems

554
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: like what Caitlin was trying to tell her too. Sometimes

555
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't think the guys realize, Like everybody tries not

556
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: to step on everybody's toes, but then when you all

557
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: do that, it's like, hello, are y'all here? Group dates

558
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: are so weird to begin with. I mean, like, when

559
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: in real life are you ever going to go on

560
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: a group date where you have twelve guys vying for

561
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: one person's attention, Like that's just not normal. But then

562
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: add on to that the fact that you guys are

563
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: all living together and you already have this really weird

564
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: bond that has been formed, this friendship that no one

565
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: else can really understand, and you're close with these guys now,

566
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: so it's like, these are your friends all trying to

567
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: date one girl. And I mean, like I remember being

568
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: on the group dates with my girlfriends trying to fight

569
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: for the bachelor, and I was like, I don't step

570
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: on anyone's shoes, Like these are my people. I'm with

571
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: them day in, day out, twenty four seven. Like, guess

572
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm into this person. But it's just like it's a

573
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: very weird dynamics. So I can kind of see where

574
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: you guys were coming from. But I also then two

575
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: can see where Michelle was feeling like I am one

576
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: girl and there are twelve dudes around me, and why

577
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: is no one pulling me? Why is no one trying

578
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: to fight for me? Um? So I felt for her.

579
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: I will say I'm glad that she was able to

580
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: confront you all during the night portion, which I do

581
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: want to get into, but before we do that, I

582
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: have two questions for you. Back to the fun part

583
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: of the group date, we learned that the guys called

584
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: you swallow during the Teddy Bear fight. Is that is

585
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: that something that they coined there or is this something

586
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: that like your friends back home had called you prior

587
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: to that. Oh man, that's something that just emerged. Because

588
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: my friends back home they call me big. Okay, yeah

589
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: big somewhere else? Oh my gosh, he just sits back.

590
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, Swollo was like at first, I didn't

591
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: like the name, and it just kind of grew on me,

592
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, I just it just I

593
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it was Ronnie who came up

594
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: with the names, to be honest, but hey, I guess

595
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, the guys acknowledged what it was. You know,

596
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: I lived in the gym, um, you know, I stay slold,

597
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: so so they called me slot. We had some weird

598
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: call names from the group date last week, So this

599
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: one's a good one. This one's a keeper. Um My.

600
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Next question that I have for that date is if

601
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: if one of the Belt Twins got in the ring

602
00:32:51,000 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: with one of the dudes, whose ass would she kick? Christmas? Yeah,

603
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: just as I see that, you know, he has a

604
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: little man little man syndrome, so you know, uh yeah,

605
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: I think I think, uh, they'll teach him a lesson.

606
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: So oh, that would have actually made for some good

607
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: freaking TV. If the Bell Twins got with you guys,

608
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: oh my, I would have loved it. I would love

609
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: one of them, oh my god. Oh I would have

610
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: loved to be like a big guy like you or

611
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: like Clayton get knocked down from one of them. That

612
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: would have been a real realistically that would happen. Yeah,

613
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: how does it feel? How did it feel seem Clayton

614
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: when he said you are what a real man looks like?

615
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: It means a lot because being Clayton, like, you know,

616
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: we kind of have the same mentality, you know, like

617
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: we both loved to be physical, you know, lay we

618
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: both got the muscles. Um, It's like it's like it's

619
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: like if there was a spinoff of Men in Black,

620
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: it'll be me and playing you know so so I

621
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: love it. It's too good. A picture of you two

622
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: in your suits one night, like back to back, that'll

623
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: be dope. But you know, you know that was honest. Yeah, Yeah,

624
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: let's be honest because I was there with you guys.

625
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: How intense wasn't building up to those fights? You guys

626
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: were trying to push like the stuffing in the bears

627
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: to like go either to like the feet or the heads,

628
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: to try to make it like a little bit more

629
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: like intense that we could swing it around. Um, were

630
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: you surprised at how agile Brandon was when you were

631
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: fighting with him? Yeah? I didn't. I didn't expect Brandon

632
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: to be that quick. Honestly. Um, you know, if this,

633
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: if this was boxing, like I would have been nailed him,

634
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, easily. But uh, you know, in this case,

635
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: it was a teddy bear match, and uh, I made

636
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: sure to take take out enough coin from the bear

637
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: so I could like easily swing it. So but yeah, Brandon,

638
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: he's real quick for sure. These techniques that you fellows

639
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: came up with, I love it. You don't understand. It

640
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: was crazy. I would have loved to be there. It

641
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: was wild. Michelle has a good cast of guys, and

642
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: so for any of those competition dates, I would have

643
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: loved to just sit in the stands and you know,

644
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: drink some wine or a martini. Cheer y'all on. I

645
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: would have loved it. Um. I want to get into

646
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: the after party because this is this is the moment

647
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: where we really got to know more of you and

648
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: see how you reacted to you know, something that's a

649
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: little bit tough for Michelle, a little bit more adversity.

650
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: So you had a very strong reaction to Michelle when

651
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: she let you know that she felt unseen during the

652
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: day portion, right, and you actually think said, you know,

653
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to quote you, but something along the

654
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: lines of, you know, having felt her pain for having

655
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: four sisters. So can you get into that a little

656
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: bit more and just tell us more about how Michelle's

657
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: poem from last week affected you. Yeah, Um, you know listening,

658
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, hearing Michelle's poem, Uh, you know, definitely resonated

659
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: with me. Um. You know, we're cut from the same cloth.

660
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: So I understand the struggles of a black woman. You know,

661
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: she went to a predominantly you know, white school and

662
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: she had to overcome many boundaries, you know, barriers, right,

663
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: and you know basketball was one thing that helped her

664
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: stand out and feel accepted, you know, being a girl

665
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: with the nap, the air, all of that. So, um,

666
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: I understood what she meant. You know, these are things

667
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: that struggles that my younger sisters went through, you know,

668
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: coming to me as the older brother, like lu, you know,

669
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't feel beautiful. You know people are saying this

670
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: about me, so like it kind of just I just

671
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: reflected back in the past. I'm like my upbringing and

672
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: everything I dealt with, and you know, just touched my

673
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: heart and I just cried, I know Joyce was to cry. Yeah,

674
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: that was a very special moment that I think really

675
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: bonded you two together. And really I think you definitely shone,

676
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: stepped up, stepped out, and obviously so much so that

677
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 1: you got that first group date Rose. So you're the oldest, correct,

678
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm actually the middle child. Oh okay, gosh,

679
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: no way. Yeah, I have two older sisters and two

680
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: younger you. I'm assuming. I mean, obviously I'm just getting

681
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: to know you more right now. But you seem like

682
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: the best man at that point in time to go

683
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: and pull her aside and really have that hard to

684
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: heart conversation with her. I can't imagine anyone else, like,

685
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, having the same sentiment or even just being

686
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: able to give her that same feeling and level of emotion.

687
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: It was really special to watch, of course, of course,

688
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: um yeah, it was just a natural feeling, you know,

689
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: and I peeped like a lot. A lot of the

690
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: guys didn't really like understand, you know, where she was

691
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: coming from, you know, and just the fact that I

692
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: understood and uh, you know, we had that connection and

693
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: that just that meant a lot. Well, I think it

694
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: means a lot for a couple of reasons. But number one,

695
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: It's a huge, huge, huge plus to the relationship or

696
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: just a bond that you have when someone can understand

697
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: the struggles that you've been through. But you didn't just

698
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: understand it from like a black man's perspective. You understood

699
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: it on a very different level because you have sisters

700
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: that have come to confide you, and you know what

701
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: it's like for a woman to be at their lowest

702
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: point coming to you and like help build me up

703
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: and build them back up. And so I think that's

704
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: time Michelle got so emotional is because she truthfully felt

705
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: seen by you and heard and understood and that you

706
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: could relate to her. So I think that was just

707
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: so beautiful. And I really do commend you for um

708
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: being vulnerable with her and honestly really grabbing her and

709
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: putting her in your hand and like trying to show

710
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: that you really cared about her, because I think that's

711
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: what really UM is special and can make a relationship

712
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: and a bond like you know, go through all the

713
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: hardest challenges in life is if you have that. So

714
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was I was emotional watching that. So

715
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: she needed she needed the support in that moment, and

716
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: you definitely gave that to her, and I will say,

717
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: there's nothing more attractive than a man who respects women

718
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: and can kind of understand the struggles they've gone through,

719
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: and I think she really appreciated that. I do want

720
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: to ask you, though, since you do have four sisters,

721
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: do any of them watch the show? And how do

722
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: they feel about you being on the show? Opinions asked

723
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: me how my mom feels? Oh my gosh, She's like

724
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: she's like, what, let me there, You're going to the

725
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: bachelor head to get married? Yuh man. She was like

726
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: really tripping. But because she she she seen like previous

727
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: seasons and she just didn't like how, you know, certain

728
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: people acting. And she just in her mind is like,

729
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, going on a Bachelorret's not a place for

730
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: her son to you know, find love. But I told her, like,

731
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: you knows, it is possible. You know, people find love anywhere.

732
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: People find love in clubs, you know, um, restaurants. So

733
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't it doesn't It doesn't matter if

734
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: it's you know, reality TV or or or not. You know,

735
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: but my sisters, um, they were supported. Honestly, they were supported.

736
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, look look at your girl, you know,

737
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: and you know so they were just they're always supported

738
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: on me, and you know, whatever whatever I do, they

739
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: always got my back. Good. What's it like have knowing

740
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: that they're watching you make out on national television like

741
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: hey we might get it. We do there's any we do? Okay,

742
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: So it definitely is nerve wracking. Like my my younger sister,

743
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: my youngest is fifteen, and she just makes weird faces

744
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: like like you're you're kissing and on TV millions of

745
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: people are watching, and I'm like, yeah, you're like over here,

746
00:41:54,080 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: You're like, that's how you get the group date? But uh,

747
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, it is, it is what it is. They

748
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: they know you know exactly. You know what my goal is,

749
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: and my goal is to win Michelle's heart, So I

750
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: have to do whatever I can to you know, um,

751
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: make sure make sure I'm noticeable by her. So right,

752
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: speaking of getting that group date, Rose, how much would

753
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: it mean to you getting that rose at the end?

754
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: And I especially after being savolved with Michelle and and

755
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: connecting with her on a different level. Hmm man, this

756
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: this far just just seeing guys getting there one on

757
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: one time with Michelle and receiving the roles. I didn't

758
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: know when my time you know will come, you know,

759
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: and you know, me receiving this group date rose uh

760
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: during this group date, it just meant the whole world

761
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: to me. Um it. Honestly, that was just confirmation that

762
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm acknowledged by show. That was like a

763
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: stamp of approve, like I have proviol like you know, uh,

764
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: keep keep keep working. You know you got other guys there,

765
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: but keep going. You both saw each other that day,

766
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: And I will say, coming from somebody who never once

767
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: received a group of date rose when I was on

768
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: the baut chat, it's a big deal. That's that's a

769
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: really big deal. Um something that that just came to

770
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: my mind that I'm interested to ask you because you

771
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: seem just like like how do I want to say this?

772
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: Like chill but confident, like you just kind of know yourself.

773
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: So do you feel like going through this season, because

774
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a very weird thing to do

775
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: to sign up for in the first place, that not

776
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: many people can relate to. Do you feel like throughout

777
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: the entire time you were there that you were really

778
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: still able to be yourself, to be open, Like did

779
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: you feel like you had to alter in any way

780
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: or did you feel just pretty settled. Yeah, you know,

781
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: I've always I'm a man who you know, I haven't

782
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: always been confident, you know, confidence with something that I've learned, uh,

783
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: you know throughout my life. But going into this, um,

784
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: you know with thirty other guys, you know, my mentality

785
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: was just to be myself. You know, my my energy

786
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: speaks for itself, like people feel my energy when I'm

787
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: in the room, so I don't have to do too

788
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: much to make myself noticeable. Like people just know I'm there,

789
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: and they also know not to fuck with me. So

790
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, all right, we'll jumping ahead to now the

791
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: cocktail party. UM, it was an interesting night. You know.

792
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: We obviously saw Chris s speak up, speak out in

793
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: a way that I don't think definitely do not rub

794
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: any of them in the right way. Um, did you

795
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: agree with anything even said? And in your opinion, were

796
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: there guys there who had actually thought or had said

797
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: they had it in the bag or had I guess

798
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Michelle in the bag Honestly me hearing Chris as saying that,

799
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, certain guys or honestly I took it as

800
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: everyone everyone had it in the bag. You know that

801
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: that was like, um, it's a stab, you know, stabbing

802
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: the heart because it's like like bro, like you know,

803
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: when when do you see me? You know, just relax

804
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: and just thinking everything is good, that you know that

805
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna win it all. So you know, I feel

806
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: like this is something you just pulled out his ass

807
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: and he just wanted to start controversy, you know, Um,

808
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: his little man syndrome picked in. Um, you know, clearly

809
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: he was the only guy there who hasn't really gotten

810
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: the most time with I think he was only he

811
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: was the only man with the least amount of time.

812
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, that's stunt that he pulled. It was

813
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: kind of it was kind of bs he wanted to

814
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: make more time for himself and then that's just what

815
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: I did, oh for sure. Yeah. Yeah, people trying to

816
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: find ways to like stand out and that's just not

817
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: the way to do it. Um. How did you feel

818
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: about him singling out Nate specifically? I mean Nate, uh,

819
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Nate is he was the front runner, the guy with

820
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: the first the first rules you know, and and yeah

821
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: first impression rules. Um and him just pinpointing Nates. Um,

822
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: you know that's that's kind of an asshole move. But

823
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: I wish he kind of just like called out more

824
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: names too, But I felt like Nate was just the best,

825
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: the most easiest target since he got the first impression

826
00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: rules right, There's one moment where I actually I gavel Baz.

827
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: It was happening because we see you after he has

828
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: this whole speech with Michelle. You asked Chris if he

829
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: thought he would be getting a rose, and then Chris

830
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: kind of what I would call spirals, and like he

831
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: was immediately offended, like he could have just answered yeah,

832
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: I think so, you know, he didn't have to keep going,

833
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: but can you explain more of why you thought he

834
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: maybe wouldn't get one? And then obviously, how did you

835
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: feel when he got the very laugh stros at that

836
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: row ceremony? Yeah, you know, I asked him, asked him,

837
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: if you think he's gonna get a rose? You know,

838
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: I honestly felt like, you know, these were his last moments,

839
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, having an opportunity to win Michelle's he pulled

840
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: that BS stunt, and yeah, for me to see him

841
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: get the rose at the end, I was like in

842
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: complete disbelief. I will say, from what it seems like,

843
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: Chris s is just a big talker, you know, like

844
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: after you asked him about the rose, he then continues

845
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: to be once I get that rose, I'm gonna wink

846
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: at ohlu And I was just like, dude, just zip

847
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: like less is more in moments, and that is a

848
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: moment that you should just not saying thing. Um. But

849
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: do you I think he I don't. I don't think

850
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: he did anything when he got that rose. But did

851
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: he wink at you or look at you or do

852
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: anything in that moment? You didn't, well, I would have

853
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: popped his face real quick. Oh without the Teddy Bear,

854
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: without the Teddy Bear, without bear, no violence. I'm a

855
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 1: passive this, I'm a passive Ok. Well, do you will

856
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: belong perfectly in Minnesota? Because I'm from Minnesota. We're not

857
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: to be very safe. We're very passive aggressive, passive aggressive.

858
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: How did you feel or how excited were you when

859
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: you found out you'd be traveling to the good old Midwest,

860
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: my home state of Minnesota. I'm Minnesota, Minnesota, so honestly

861
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were from Minnesota. But that's pretty cool.

862
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, honestly, for me, me knowing like

863
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: I was going to a hometown like that was just

864
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: that was. That was great, you know because, um, you know,

865
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: I've never been to Minnesota, and honestly, I thought Minnesota

866
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: was kind of like a country type of place, you know,

867
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: farmland and all that. I mean, most of it is.

868
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: You're not wrong. We were like in like the heart

869
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: of downtown. I think it was. It was the issue. Yeah, yeah,

870
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: I think you're right. You were in the good spot.

871
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I love I love the cities. I love

872
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: the Twin Cities, So you were in a very good spot.

873
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: I really I have no idea what's to come, like

874
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: what you guys did on your dates from me thing,

875
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: but you were there at a perfect time, Like it

876
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: was still warm, it was I'm assuming sunny. Um yeah,

877
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: how did you like it? Oh? It was? It was great.

878
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: I had a good time. Um, you know the dates,

879
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: like going to the biking stadium like that was like

880
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: that was a great moment. Like I've never been center

881
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: forew at a stadium ember and that was probably like

882
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: once in a lifetime experience. So just me seeing how

883
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: beautiful the city was and how clean like that was great.

884
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: I enjoyed my time. Man, just me knowing I was

885
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: going in Minnesota, like I knew that was one step

886
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: close to, you know, actually being too being pick by Michelle.

887
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: I was you guys were going to her hometown as

888
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: the first time that the show had traveled, so I

889
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: was batching the pandemic, and so I know, if that

890
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: feels like to stay stagnant in one spot. Granted, I

891
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: actually loved that, but it was really exciting though. It

892
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of felt like, you know, the show was coming

893
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: back to what it usually is, and I know I

894
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: got a second one. So that was fun to take

895
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: you guys out there and have fun. I can't wait.

896
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: So we have two more questions for you and then

897
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: we're going to get into a game. But if you

898
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: can give us a one sentence teaser of what's to

899
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: come without giving too much away, without communito spoiler's away,

900
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: what would it be? Ah, what's yet to come? That's

901
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: a good question, Like three words to describe what's to come.

902
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, it's gonna be bloody. I also expecting that

903
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's gonna be bloody. What is this

904
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: the bacheldor Game of Thrones? What are we watching? I mean,

905
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: this is this? It might be it might be, but

906
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: uh yeah, what's yet to come? Um, it's it's this

907
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: is survival of his fittest shown shown in light. Oh.

908
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: I don't even know if that made sense, but hey,

909
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm hey, listen, you hooked me. I can't wait to

910
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: see how it all in folds. Okay, So some people

911
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: we ask all of our guests on the podcast is

912
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: asking for the rose and thorn. So what has been

913
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: your rose and thorn of the season thus far? I

914
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: guess the rose aspect is just me just growing as

915
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: a man and just learning to be more open emotionally.

916
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 1: You know. I think that's something I've struggled with in

917
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: the past, and you know, this show had allowed me

918
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: to open up and be more expressive. Okay, then I

919
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: think definitely. Um, the Peter and Will's situation, Um, you know,

920
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, both of them, they see

921
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: eye to eye and it was just like, you know,

922
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: as one guy was talking to the other, you know,

923
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: they weren't really listening and just went in one ear

924
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: out the other. Yeah. I feel like if they both

925
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: really sat down as men, like they probably could have

926
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: resolved it. But Peter Piper Pizza, you know, he wasn't

927
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: a he wasn't aving it. Yeah, what was his called

928
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: me last week dough boy. Do boy, doesn't it? It

929
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: did hurt me, Like when they called him dough boy,

930
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: like he felt cool with his shame and I looked

931
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: at him, I'm like, oh my god, he's not well.

932
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, we love to play games

933
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: over here, so we're going to give you the Bouchette superlatives. Okay,

934
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: so basically, we're gonna give you a most likely to

935
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: dot dot dot and you'll just finish the sentence kind

936
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: of rapid fire with somebody from Michelle's season that you

937
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 1: think best fits. So to start it out, who is

938
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: most likely to get the party started? Rodney for sure,

939
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: almost said Nate, but definitely Rodney. Okay, okay, definitely not Joe. Yes,

940
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: definitely not Joe. Got it. Who's most likely to start drama? Peter,

941
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: I can see that. I think that's who who wills

942
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: the last week too too? Yeah? Who is most likely

943
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: to get the guys laughing? Rodney? Good? Um? Who's most

944
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: likely to start a dance party? Rodney? I take that back,

945
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: I take that back, Roy, I think it's that or

946
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: Nate said that that's so funny. Yeah, y is a

947
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: good dancers who? Okay, I don't even know that. Well,

948
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: if we ever have Lean, I'm gonna ask him to

949
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: bust a move for us from a dance off. Who

950
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: is most likely to cheat to win a group date Christmas?

951
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: Guess that one? Most likely to steal Michelle first at

952
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: a cocktail party. Oh that's neat most likely. Who's most

953
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: likely to skinny dip in the pool? Brandon Brandon? Yeah, Brandon.

954
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: There's always like one person on every season I swore,

955
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: who's just always naked? Like when the lead's not around?

956
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: Was there one guy there? This is not on this game.

957
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: I just want to know he's just like, it's you,

958
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: okay me? I guess it's me because, like I mean,

959
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: I was always it in my shorts and and just shirtless,

960
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: got it, flaunt it? That's right. Who is most likely

961
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: to go to bed first? Joves. We call him sleepy Joe.

962
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: So um, this man sleep everywhere, like he sleep on

963
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: the roof, like ground outside, Like, oh man, he's so chill.

964
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: He's so chill. I was like at one, I think

965
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: I was watching it with one of my friends two

966
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: or three weeks ago. I was like, I feel like

967
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: he's going to fall asleep at a roast ceremony, standing

968
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: up there like he's just yes, like he's sup all

969
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: over one day. Um, okay, last one here, who is

970
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: most likely to actually beat you in a Teddy Bear fight? Clayton.

971
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: Clayton honestly was my my only competition. I thought you're

972
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna say Briebella, I mean too, I thought you could

973
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: say a Belle twin. But I love it. Um. It

974
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: was such a pleasure of having you on. And I'm

975
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: sure you're a busy guy, and you know your world

976
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: has probably slipped upside down because of all this. But

977
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: thank you for just taking a few well, I was

978
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: gonna say a few minutes, so we talked for a

979
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: much longer than that, but for taking time to just

980
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: sit down with us. And I think our listens are

981
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna love listening to this because we just love to

982
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: get to know all of you men so much more

983
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: on a deeper level, and so we so appreciate it.

984
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh well, I appreciate y'all having me here.

985
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: You know, I know you two are more busier than me,

986
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: so it's an honor. And hopefully this is not our

987
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: last interview. Definitely not. You're walking back anytime. Thank you

988
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: so much, so good catching up if you have a

989
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: good one. He's so sweet, like so kind, and his

990
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: skin is like butter in person. It's like, I love,

991
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: I see, this is what I need to know, Like

992
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: you actually were with these men up close and personal,

993
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: got to know them so much more than you know

994
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: us viewers ever will. And so, yeah, he seems like

995
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: a goold dude. That's why I wanted to ask him,

996
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: Like he just seems so solid and who he is,

997
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: he comes across that way, and so that's why I

998
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: was really interested to be like, you know, did you

999
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: feel like you change it all? Or were you just

1000
00:57:54,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: you this entire season? Yeah? No, I think that honestly,

1001
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: I think he was genuinely himself. But also he grew

1002
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: a lot throughout the total process, like a lot of

1003
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: the guys do. But he just kept coming out of

1004
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: his shell and kept trying to be more vulnerable and open.

1005
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: As you can tell. And I don't know, he was

1006
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: always someone that kind of pulled out my heart strings

1007
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: and he also pulls out Michelle's. So I'm a huge

1008
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: fan of him. I'd like, just after seeing him last night,

1009
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: how he handled the entire situation with Michelle and feeling

1010
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: unseen and just really being able to relate to her

1011
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: because of his past and his upbringing and his sisters.

1012
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: I thought was so so special and I'm glad that

1013
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: he was able to feel comfortable enough to share that,

1014
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: because it's one thing to just share with the partner,

1015
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: but then to open up in front of millions of

1016
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: US viewers is not easy. But I'm so glad we

1017
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: had him on. So a huge thank you to Olamide

1018
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: big Oh for being here today, and even bigger thank

1019
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: you to all of our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners who

1020
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: stick by us week by week absolutely and make sure

1021
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: to hit us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour

1022
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: on Instagram, at Vatchination on TikTok and Twitter, and then

1023
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: vatch Nation on Facebook. And as always, please don't forget

1024
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: to subscribe to our podcast. If you don't know how

1025
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: to do that, we say a week after week, but

1026
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: you can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, The Wondering Apple,

1027
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: or wherever you were listening to us right now. Thanks everyone, Bye,