1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: It's that time time time, time, Luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 2: James Wright, maybe you think you're slur about Suparoo vehicles 4 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: in an ad you read on air. Is cute, but 5 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: it raises the question if you are really that ignorant 6 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: about the quality of the subaroof vehicles. 7 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: We have two Subaru I guess Subaru's plural. 8 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: The first forester we bought new, then later a used 9 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: one with about one hundred miles one hundred thousand miles 10 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: as a spare. 11 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: That's from James. He's a very angry lesbian. 12 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: He does not appreciate me making a slur against the Subaru, 13 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: a very quality vehicle. 14 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: He owns two. 15 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: He bought one new and very responsibly. He bought a 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: second one second one has over one hundred thousand miles 17 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: on it. And he doesn't appreciate me making slurs from him. 18 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: And now he wonders, am I really that dumb? Am 19 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: I really that dumb that I don't know about his Subaru? 20 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: It was the Dean Goss Dinner Theater. Several folks kind 21 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: enough to just send it was Dean Goss Dinner Theater. 22 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: I think there were two that and another one that 23 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: competed called the Something Club. I just can't remember what 24 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: it's called, like the Sportsman's Club or the Summ's Club. 25 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: There was a Dean Gos Dinner Theater and another one, 26 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: and I'll never know because I didn't live here, but 27 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: somebody will tell me by email Michael Berryshow dot com. 28 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: Someone said I would like to see the drive in 29 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: with car Hops return. I agree, Sonic doesn't quite get 30 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: you there. 31 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: I like the old especially if they're cute. All right, 32 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: let's start. 33 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: What concept would you like to see brought back or 34 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: brought to Houston? 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: Tom, you're up, yeah, I tell you all right. There 36 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: on fifty nine, across from where you find Cactus Records 37 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: in the water Burger, there's an old club I believe, 38 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: like an Egyptian looking thing. 39 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh magic, I think it. 40 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: Used to be. 41 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, And they said that was going to be coming back, 42 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: and I ain't heard nothing else. In twenty twenty four 43 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: there was an article in the Chronicle about it, but 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: you know, Chronicle doesn't tell the truth very often. But 45 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: the other place Dinner and the show Doci Dough in. 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: The Woodlands, Oh yeah, man. 47 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: They. 48 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: Got they got at sitting there and every musician I've 49 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: ever talked to says it's one of the top five 50 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: venues that they've played in their lives. 51 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, love that place. That is true. 52 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: That is one of the places you can still get 53 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: dinner in the show. I did forget that. Thank you 54 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: for the call. 55 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: Tom. 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: The issue on Magic Island, I think this is the 57 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: one case where it wasn't the Chronicle's fault. I don't 58 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: want to speak out of turn, but the ownership of 59 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: that space used to be owned by a guy named 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: doctor Atari. 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: He was. 62 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: I believe he was an Irani doctor, and I don't 63 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: think he owns the property any longer. But there have 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: been some efforts to bring that property back, and there's 65 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: been some drama associated with it. I should probably stay 66 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: out of that because yeah, I'll stay out of that 67 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: for now. 68 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Windshield, you're up, Go ahead. 69 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: What should Houston bring back or bring to the greater 70 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: Houston area. 71 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 6: Addie Michael, there was a concept called Spaghetti Western there 72 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 6: in the Heights and he's still there. 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: It was. 74 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 6: She Oh, is it? 75 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Still there? 76 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 6: I'll be darned. 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 6: Well, you know, everything seems like it was yesterday, but 79 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 6: then I realized it was twenty years ago. Do you 80 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 6: remember concept called Antiqua. 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, where was that? I remember they had a 82 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: goofy logo. 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 6: That was it was owned by an Iranian and an 84 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 6: Italian guy who was there I think in bel Air's 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 6: were all the doctors and lawyers. That was their everyday eatery. 86 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 6: It was a little you had to really know about it, 87 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 6: a little hole in the wall. They closed down. I 88 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 6: was really sad to hear about it because we had 89 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 6: just moved back and they had closed down. But I 90 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 6: had called on them for a very long time and 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 6: they were an amazing duo. And the one of the owners, 92 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 6: he had a little ranch and I'd come back in 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 6: there and I'd bring him some fish or something that 94 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 6: I had. 95 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 7: Caught, and he'd have rabbit heads or a hoghead. 96 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 6: Sitting on his back line. I guess I can say 97 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 6: this now because the health department can't go in there, 98 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 6: but he'd be cooking up, you know, all kinds of 99 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 6: rabbit and hog that he'd shoot out at his ranch 100 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 6: for a nilgai and stuff or people like me and 101 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 6: his staff. But it was a very unique place, fantastic 102 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 6: Iran that was the Italian, the Iranian guy. He was 103 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 6: one of the coolest men you'd ever met. He was 104 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 6: an absolute nut job, but he could fix anything in 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 6: that restaurant. I mean anything. And anytime I had to 106 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 6: make numbers for wine and stuff, They'd let me sell 107 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 6: in whatever I wanted. They didn't care like I. 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Just ship it, Just ship it. 109 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 6: It don't matter to ship it. 110 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: It was nice. Who were you a rep for Republic? 111 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 6: It was there, very nice. I was a rep for 112 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 6: first for Southern in South Florida, and then then Republic 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 6: when I did for most Southern Republic in South Florida, 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 6: and then Republic when I moved here before they merged 115 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 6: with Glaziers. 116 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: I was going to tell you the number of people 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: I've known who at one point or another work for 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: Republic and or Glaziers is a lot. They turned over 119 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: a lot of staff and nobody. Nobody is still working there. 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: It's people who tell me, you know, oh, I used 121 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: to work as a as a rep at Glaziers or 122 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: at Republic. 123 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, Irani's are interesting people. In the United States. 124 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: You almost never meet an unsuccessful Irani professionally, and you 125 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: will meet a lot of very shrewd, very successful Iranis. 126 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I know over one hundred Iranis and every 127 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: one of them is a multi millionaire, every single one 128 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: of them. And I think part of that is that 129 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: it was the best and brightest that fled Iran in 130 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: seventy nine. But now we're on the second generation of 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: them and they're still They're like Indians. They're very focused 132 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: on six us. You know, you don't don't embarrass the 133 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: family by being homeless. You know, you've got to be 134 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: You've got to be successful to them, so you don't 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: embarrass the family. 136 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: Ray you're on the Michael Berry Show. 137 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 5: Hey, Michael, we go to a small place in Tomball 138 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 5: called Main Street Crossing. I know it, and they have 139 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 5: different kinds of foods. Yeah, I was there just a 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 5: week ago and saw Sundance. We've seen. They have all 141 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: kinds of cover bands, tribute bands, Texas artists and it's 142 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 5: a really good place to go, very small, and so 143 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 5: that's one of my favorite places. 144 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: That is that is the Unicorn in the business. He 145 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: and I used to talk a lot. Uh it's the 146 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: Unicorn because the owner is also himself a musician. 147 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Uh loves the business. 148 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: It's set up as a church, so they don't have 149 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of the hassles. Tomball really wants 150 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: it there, so so they're helpful to them. There's really 151 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: nothing else out in that area. But that place works 152 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: because the owner, who's a relatively young guy, he's ten years. 153 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: Older than when we were last talking, but because he 154 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: is so hands on. 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: If they brought in enough that you know, there's hardly 156 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: any meat on that bone to make any money, and 157 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: he doesn't care. 158 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: That's why that place. 159 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 8: Was can actually break your ball. 160 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. 161 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: We will be talking to several folks three to be exact, 162 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: maybe four this week regarding the Texas legislative session that 163 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: just concluded. 164 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Luke Macys will be our guest in the next segment. 165 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: Luke is one of the guys who follows the session 166 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: day by day, Brandon Walton's with Texas Scorecard and also 167 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: Michael quinn Sullivan with Texas Scorecard to get their thoughts 168 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: on what passed and what didn't and why we're talking 169 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: about concepts that you wish would come to town or 170 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: that you wish would come back to town. The Dean 171 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: Gos Dinner Theater is a fan favorite. I never got 172 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: to go. I came to Houston in eighty nine, my 173 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: wife and I got married and we paid for it ourselves. 174 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: We didn't want her father in India or my parents 175 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: to have to pay for it, so we kept it 176 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: pretty simple. We didn't have all the things that add 177 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: up the big rehearsal dinner and all that. But everybody 178 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: came in. Her family came in from around the country, 179 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: Chicago and New Jersey primarily, and so we only had 180 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: twenty people at the wedding, but ten or twelve them 181 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: were from her side to come in. So the evening 182 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: before her aunt, who had kind of taken us under 183 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: her wing. She was a psychiatrist, she was married to 184 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: a Internish doctor, and she said, do you all have 185 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: dinner planned? And AA said no, it wasn't really in 186 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: the budget, and she was just going to make something. 187 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: Ant said no, no, no, to Michael to pick a place 188 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: and we'll take you all and it should be nice. 189 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know what was nice. It was nineteen ninety two. 190 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: And I'd only been in town for three years and 191 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: I was a student, So I picked something very nice. Ramon, 192 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: at least I thought the old San Francisco Steakhouse. That 193 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 2: is correct, that phones ran the old San Francisco Steakhouse 194 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: out on West Timer. 195 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what's there now, but that's where we went. 196 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: And the bread, you know, the old steakhouses would always 197 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: have real buttery bread on the table when you got there. 198 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I missed that. 199 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: Even Hofbrow had that, and it had to grow on 200 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: the swing the whole time. 201 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Those were good times. 202 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: All right. 203 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: What concept would you like to see come to town 204 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: or come back to town? 205 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: Melissa yet you're up? 206 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 8: Hello? 207 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 208 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 6: Okay? 209 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 9: How about belly dancing and whirling dervish? 210 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, is there one that you're thinking of? 211 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: Ye? 212 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: Like it? 213 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: Well? 214 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 9: I lived in Cairo for six years and it was 215 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 9: super cheesy, but anytime we had visits, had to go 216 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 9: do the belly dancing and really nervous show. And I 217 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 9: think it kind of fits into the whole culture right 218 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 9: now because half the times we kind of thought that 219 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 9: the belly dancers were cross dressers, you know, like drag queens. 220 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. There, What were you doing in Cairo? 221 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 9: I was a trailing spouse. My husband worked for a 222 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 9: patch oil and gas. 223 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: How'd you like that? 224 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: Oh? 225 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 9: It was amazing, amazing. I went, I did not want 226 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 9: to go. I went kicking and screaming and wow, what 227 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 9: an adventure. 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: What years did you did? He worked for a patchy 229 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: that you were with him? 230 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 9: It was we went there in O two and then 231 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 9: stay for six years. So just before the upriving. 232 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: So I used to live across the street from a 233 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: fellow in Paul Bragg, who was the CEO of Apache, 234 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: and I lived in West u in a tear down that. 235 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: I had gotten on a deal. 236 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: And everybody in the neighborhood thought that I'd buy it 237 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: and tear it down, but I couldn't afford to tear 238 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: it down. We lived there. It was uninhabitable, it was awful. 239 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: But Paul Bragg was He kept himself, didn't bother anybody. 240 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't tell this, but he was married to 241 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: the hottest woman, kind of dark skinned, brown hair. 242 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: I forget her name. 243 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: And in the five years we lived there, that woman 244 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: never smiled. Now, come to find out, they were going 245 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: to be getting a divorced soon. So maybe he didn't 246 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: like that she never smiled, or maybe she never smiled 247 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 2: because she wasn't happy at home. But I have never 248 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: because I would flirt with her or try so. I'd 249 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: go out for my job and she'd be on her job. 250 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: Hey and hm and I used to think that poor bastard, 251 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: he's got a tough job at home and then he's 252 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: got to come home and his hot little wife not 253 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: not ever smile. That can't be pleasant. Phil, you're on 254 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: the Michael Berry Show. What concept it's called? 255 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Meet and three? They're popular like Ville. I lived in Nashville. 256 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I've eating it. My friend and Endham took me 257 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: there in Nashville. That's a fantastic like a cafeteria style, 258 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: the old style your plate has Yeah, yes, I'll do that. 259 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 6: Say they'll have maybe three different meats to offer and 260 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: then about maybe eight or eight to ten vegetables. 261 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: It's a flat rate. You pick one meat and three vegetables. 262 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: You're in and out. 263 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 2: Yes, great, Yeah, So he was the CEO of UR. 264 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: He was the Eddie Martinez of our Houston office. Used 265 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: to mean of our Nashville office. Used to be the 266 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: number two, the director of sales at at our Houston office. 267 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: But what I'm hearing from a lot of people is 268 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: is in emails is cafeteria style. People want some concept 269 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: of the cafeterias brought back. Uh and and I have 270 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: a friend who eats it at Rachel Palmer Hooper who 271 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: eats it at cleeburnd a lot. That's where she takes 272 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: her parents. But that is to me what a cafeteria 273 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: should be. Big heapen portions, the owner down there at 274 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: the end, good Greek fella, the owner down at the end, 275 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: and everything coming out of the bowls. 276 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: You know, these big portions. That's what a That's what 277 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: a cafeteria should be. 278 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: There used to be one over on the east side, 279 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: like on way side where just past the under, just 280 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: just where it went under, and I think it was 281 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: called Dinner Bell. I don't know if that's still there 282 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: or not. Chuck, what concept. 283 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Rudy's Rudy's barbs. 284 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 7: Right across from uh from Tony's back in the. 285 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: I know what Tony's was. I guess that's probably where 286 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: Cafe Annie is now. 287 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 7: It was in that center. But if Cafe Annie was 288 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 7: on the end cap and came later, But Rudy's was 289 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 7: there before, and it was more in the center of 290 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 7: that center, and it had a great food. Wasn't as 291 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 7: good as Tony's, but it was close and it had 292 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 7: a bar that had a trio or a combo in it. 293 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: Oh wow, you know, I shouldn't mention Foo odds because 294 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: I don't want anybody to go in there, so it's 295 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: kept it from me. We need a place like I 296 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: think people have changed the idea of a place that 297 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: a couple would go to, and people their desires changed dramatically. 298 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: Unlike the United States, Congress is not continuously more or 299 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: less in session. It doesn't even meet every year. It 300 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: meets by annially for one hundred and fifty days every 301 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: other year in odd numbered years. If something doesn't get done, 302 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: you're going to have to wait two years for it 303 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: to be accomplished, if at all. Now the governor can 304 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: call a special session, and they will do that for 305 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: a specific issue. But by and large, whatever you were 306 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: promised and haven't received yet, you're not going to get. 307 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: Luke Macius is our guest. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. 308 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: He has a blog, a show. He follows the legislature 309 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: very closely, and I read most of what he writes, 310 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 2: and he's got I think we're somewhat aligned on what 311 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: we would like to see out of Texas State government. 312 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Luke, welcome to the program, sir, Thank you, Michael, thanks 313 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: for having me on So let's talk about this particular session. 314 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: Organically, start to finish one of the and I have 315 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: a series of questions, and then I'll open it up 316 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: to you to what I don't ask. Obviously, I was 317 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: frustrated with the election of Dustin Burroughs. We may to 318 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: bounce Daide Feeling so drunk day's out of power, but 319 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: basically we replaced him with what I would argue is 320 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: someone who's still cutting a deal with the Democrats to 321 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: get the power. 322 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, I think that's accurate. 323 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 8: I think the start of the session was definitely frustrating, 324 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 8: with a small group of Republicans teaming up with Democrats 325 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 8: to keep the power, and ultimately a lot of the 326 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 8: people that did that were people that had power under 327 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 8: Dad Feeling. Now, it is worth acknowledging that a significant 328 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 8: amount of the leadership team of DAID were defeated in 329 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 8: their primaries, so you had at least a sum reorganization 330 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 8: that needed to happen based on the fact that a 331 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 8: lot of the more liberal Republican chairmen were defeated by 332 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 8: very conservative people coming into reform. But you're correct, the 333 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 8: start of the session felt like deja vu. We're starting 334 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 8: out with the same problems that Straus, Bond and Dade had. 335 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would argue that Burrows was just Dade 336 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 2: feeling two point zero. Was there much difference that you saw? 337 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he wasn't drunk all the time, but well. 338 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I can't speak to the alcohol consumption, but 339 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 8: what I can speak to is the fact that he was. 340 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 8: The difficulty in comparison comparing session to session is that 341 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 8: the actual chamber, the Texas House of Representatives, was so 342 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 8: substantially more conservative. You had what I would argue is 343 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 8: a twenty to twenty five point or seat swing in 344 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 8: the legislature. So there are eighty six Republicans last session, 345 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 8: there were eighty eight this session, and of the eighty eight, 346 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 8: there were twenty five more conservatives in the caucus, which 347 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 8: took the consistent. 348 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Conservative voting block. 349 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 8: Just as a quick example, if a conservative had an 350 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 8: idea to make a bill more conservative in sessions past, 351 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 8: he might get fifteen to twenty votes on any given amendment, 352 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 8: and this session those individuals were easily getting forty or 353 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 8: fifty votes. So forty or fifty of the eighty eight 354 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 8: Republicans were consistently voting to push things in a right direction, 355 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 8: which then just kind of has a snowball effect in 356 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 8: the legislature. So we did accomplish a lot more big picture. 357 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 8: I think a lot of that was just due to 358 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 8: the fact that the Texas House was so much more conservative, 359 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 8: even if the leadership still was more loyal to Democrats 360 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 8: than what we would have had if we had had 361 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 8: somebody like David Cook who was elected in the Republican Caucus. 362 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: What was drunk Dade's role behind the scenes, How much 363 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: influence did he have, What was his body language? 364 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: What was how involved he was completely I mean he 365 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: was honestly completely absent, And I'll give you an example. 366 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 8: So first of all, you almost never saw him on 367 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 8: the floor ever, His committee met very little. His office 368 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 8: was hardly ever open. He officed just below the chamber. 369 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 8: In fact, what's funny is his surface pro he could 370 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 8: vote from his office. So one of the reasons people 371 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 8: realized that he wasn't on the floor a lot is 372 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 8: he because it works based on geography. So because it's 373 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 8: right underneath the floor, the surface provo still thought he 374 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 8: was on the floor, so he could actually vote from 375 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 8: his office. 376 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: And I heard from. 377 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 8: Even business lobbyists about how his office was hardly ever available, 378 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 8: he wasn't there to meet. He was chairing a rather 379 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 8: powerful committee. So Dade seemed to check out a little 380 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 8: bit when he lost his power. He thought two days 381 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 8: before the caucus met he was still going to be 382 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 8: speaker and kind of had the wake up when everyone 383 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 8: realized he didn't have a path, and so I don't 384 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 8: think he adjusted very well to that. 385 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: He really was not active. 386 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 8: He had a couple of those bills, as you mentioned, 387 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 8: the meme criminalization bill, which I don't even think Dan 388 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 8: Patrick sent to a committee. I think he even just 389 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 8: killed it on his desk. He didn't even refer it. 390 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 8: So the Senate never even took that bill seriously. But 391 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 8: he did have his bill to criminalize memes that depict politicians, 392 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 8: and other than that, he was pretty absent. 393 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: I was flattered because there were a number of articles 394 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: that were written that said that that was directed at 395 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: me and you know, I mean spell my name, you know, 396 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: the old pt Barnum line. Obviously, jen Wu elected the 397 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: leader of the Democrat Caucus, wielding more power I think 398 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: than most. 399 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: Democrat leaders over the years. 400 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: I understand people hate him, but even worse, he's far 401 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: more effective than typical Democrat leaders. How influential did you 402 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: since they were the Democrats in crafting what was going on, 403 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: because it looked to me like they, at a minimum 404 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: had the ability to sandbag anything that the Senate Republicans 405 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: wanted done, and probably. 406 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 8: More so early on, they had more influence. And what 407 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 8: they also influenced heavily was the watering down of certain bills. Ultimately, 408 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 8: and I'll give the grassroots credit for this before I 409 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 8: say what I think happened, but recognized that because you 410 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 8: and so many people across Texas actually are talking about 411 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 8: the Texas House, when they cut the deal with Democrats, 412 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 8: they did so in a public way. They've never done that, 413 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 8: and so the average Texan was way more upset about 414 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 8: the Texas House than they had ever been. And what 415 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 8: I think that ultimately set up was that the House 416 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 8: knew they needed to give some major wins to Republicans 417 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 8: that had not been given to Republicans in the past, 418 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 8: and so where it looked like Jean wu was winning 419 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 8: in some respect, the House would water substantially down certain 420 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 8: major Republican bills, like the China Land Bill, the Parental 421 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 8: Bill of Rights that was going to get rid of 422 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 8: sex and gender theory and classrooms, you know, the thing 423 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 8: that was going to work on peorn in school libraries. 424 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 8: But what ultimately happened at the end in many of 425 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 8: those instances was that when the Senate went to conference, 426 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 8: the House basically let them restore the bills back to 427 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 8: exactly what Republicans wanted. And so that's why it was 428 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 8: just a couple of days ago. Jean Wu actually told 429 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 8: the Texas Observer that he felt like the Texas House 430 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 8: got rolled this session, and I would disagree with him 431 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 8: to some extent, because I think there were some conservative 432 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 8: policies they definitely killed. But in the last thirty days, 433 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 8: the House acquiesced to the Senate on more than a 434 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 8: number of occasions, and it gave Republicans some pretty substantial 435 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 8: wins that date. We the wins that we've criticized date 436 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 8: feeling for killing r So. 437 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: Just a moment. Luke mas is our guest. 438 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 10: You can find him at lukemacus dot com. 439 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 11: E Mary, you are more to Ring the King's English. 440 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: Luke not and listened to an opening of one of 441 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 2: his podcasts during the break so that I could be 442 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: sure I was getting it right. 443 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: So it's Luke m Acias. You can find him at 444 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: lukemcius dot com. He does a blog and he has 445 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: a podcast. 446 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: I try to triangulate information from various sources, including liberals, democrats, 447 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: liberal media, as well as folks who I think are 448 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: probably far more aligned with me than the other folks, 449 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: to get a sense of what's going on, for instance, 450 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: in the state legislature, because I will confess I don't 451 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: spend as much time on the day to day as 452 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: people like Luke Macius does, so he's one of the 453 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: sources that I look to for what the heck is 454 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 2: going on. 455 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: Luke, you in a I guess it's June eleventh. 456 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: You put up a post session overview the good Let's 457 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 2: talk about some of the things that came out of 458 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: this session, not just the House, but the House, the Senate, 459 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: and the governor has or you expect will sign. 460 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 8: So I think the top positive aspects, if I'm going 461 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 8: to go give people a big picture view, is the 462 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 8: Republican Party of Texas had eight legislative priorities at the 463 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 8: beginning of the session. Okay, when it came to I'm 464 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 8: gonna the most positive parts were the China land ban, 465 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 8: and again all of our conservative Republicans fought to make 466 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 8: sure that it was a real band that ultimately passed, 467 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 8: because they tried multiple times to open up a bunch 468 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 8: of loopholes where Chinese nationals could still buy land. But 469 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 8: I think the version of that that passing got signed 470 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 8: by Governor Rabbit is a very strong, if not the 471 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 8: strongest in the nation. When it comes to stop sexualizing 472 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 8: Texas children. There were a number of bills that passed, 473 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 8: probably eight, nine or ten that were all pretty substantive, 474 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 8: but the most substantive one was SB twelve, the Parental 475 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 8: Bill of Rights. Do you remember when there was all 476 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 8: the protests and riots in Florida over what the left 477 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 8: called don't Say Gay that Ron Desanta's passed. Texas passed 478 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 8: a version of that that is even better. So that 479 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 8: version stopped at sixth grade. This version goes all the 480 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 8: way through high school. It says no gender identity, no 481 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 8: sexual orientation, no diversity, no equity, no inclusion. All DEI 482 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 8: and SOGI policies are out. And we actually had this. 483 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 8: I mean, the Democrats all got up because one of 484 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 8: the things that the Senate insisted on the House tried 485 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 8: to keep it out, but the Senate insistent on it 486 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 8: was language that said no gender sexuality clubs. We have 487 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 8: gender and sexuality clubs on forty six percent of school 488 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 8: campuses in Texas public school campuses. They start as early 489 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 8: as second grade, and when that ban came to the floor, 490 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 8: the language was in it. The Democrats ended up giving 491 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 8: three hours of speeches where most of them shared stories 492 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 8: about how they the reason they were a pan sexual 493 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 8: or a bisexual, or a lesbian or whatever they were 494 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 8: as they identify. They talked about how the clubs that 495 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 8: they attended in middle school and high school were formative 496 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 8: to their experimentation and their sexual orientation. So what we 497 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 8: really found out was that the ban that the Senate 498 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 8: fought very hard to keep in ended up being really 499 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 8: important to that bill. But it also says that your 500 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 8: kid's not going to get sex education at school unless 501 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 8: you opt them into that program instead of having to 502 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 8: go opt out. So there's many different aspects. Basically, teachers 503 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 8: can't talk about sex and gender to students. Teach them 504 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 8: how to read, teach them how to multiply. You're not 505 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 8: even doing a good job of that, So just do 506 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 8: that and don't talk about it. 507 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: SB twelve. 508 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 8: SB seventeen is the China land ban. There were a 509 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 8: number of grid protection policies that passed. When it comes 510 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 8: to election integrity, there were a number of good policies 511 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 8: that pass. What I say is when it came to 512 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 8: stop sexualizing kids, they probably passed eighty percent of the 513 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 8: bills we wanted to pass. Election integrity was closer to 514 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 8: thirty percent. The Senate passed a lot of legislation that 515 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 8: the House still killed on election integrity, but there were 516 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 8: three or four different bills that were able to pass 517 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 8: to make it make our elections slightly more secure. We 518 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 8: were able to pass also the two to eighty seven 519 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 8: G program, and I will say that in the version 520 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 8: that it passed very impactful and statewide. So this is 521 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 8: to team up with President Trump's agenda and make sure 522 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 8: that every single county in America is participating with the 523 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 8: government in a coordinated way with ICE. That's what the 524 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 8: two eighty seven G program does. We even have rural 525 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 8: counties in East Texas that haven't participated with ICE, that 526 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 8: aren't routinely running everybody they arrest and put into jail 527 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 8: through the ICE database to then let ICE know, oh, 528 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 8: we've got a detainer request. 529 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: You can come pick this guy up. 530 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 8: We have places that are Republican counties that aren't even engaged. 531 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 8: So this mandates that every single county in Texas, including 532 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 8: the blue counties, do it. It tells them that they 533 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 8: have to have a full time employee that's doing it, 534 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 8: that the state of Texas will pay for that person 535 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 8: in reimbursement. But you will get somebody in, you will 536 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 8: start coordinating with the federal government, and you will do that. 537 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 8: So I think that is a strong win on the 538 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 8: immigration front. Those are the good things. There are many others, 539 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 8: but those are some of the top good things that 540 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 8: I think came out of the session. 541 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: What are some of the big issues. 542 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: I know you had a piece on TLR Texas w 543 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: lawsuit reform, being upset with boroughs. What are some of 544 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: the issues that did not get past of note? 545 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 8: So when I look at the things that didn't get 546 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 8: past a note, that are most obvious for Republicans. 547 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: First, there was a bill. 548 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 8: SB twenty eight eighty that the Senate passed that was 549 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 8: going to significantly crack down on the abortion pill. We 550 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 8: have about nineteen thousand numborn children that die via the 551 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 8: abortion pill. That are shipped in from out of state 552 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 8: every year, and this bill would have significantly lowered that 553 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 8: number from nineteen thousand. We made it much harder to 554 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 8: ship those abortion pills in. That passed the Senate died 555 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 8: in the House. There was a bill that would have 556 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 8: banned Drag Queen's Story Hour that the Senate passed as 557 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 8: a priority piece of legislation. That seemed like an obvious win. 558 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 8: Nobody likes Drag Queen Story Hour. It would have defunded 559 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 8: the libraries that host that. The Senate in the House 560 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 8: both put an additional constitutional amendment that says that if 561 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 8: you're not a citizen, you can't vote, which is already 562 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 8: in our constitution in a couple places, so it made 563 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 8: it triply illegal. But what the Senate passed in the 564 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 8: House killed was a bill that said that when you 565 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 8: register to vote, your citizenship must be verified, and that 566 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 8: was what the Democrats held the line on. Unfortunately died 567 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 8: in the Texas House. So there was a provision and 568 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 8: that is a very strong election integrity bill that I 569 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 8: think should have been an obvious wind. There was a 570 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 8: build a Senate pass on election integrity that said that 571 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 8: Harris County go ahead. 572 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: So this is the issue. 573 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: If your citizenship is not checked at the point at 574 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: which you register, once you are a registered voter and 575 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,719 Speaker 2: you show up to vote, it is then never checked. 576 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: So our constitution, I know you know this, but it's 577 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: worth noting. Our constitution says you must be a United 578 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: States citizen in order to vote in Texas elections, and 579 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 2: everybody says, yes, that's a degree. 580 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: We ought to do that. 581 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: So then somebody goes to register and they're not a citizen, 582 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: they get registered, they go and vote, They effectively break 583 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: the law and there's nothing to stop them. So you 584 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: have to have some teeth in this. You have to 585 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: have a mechanism by which you actually these aren't self 586 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 2: enforcing laws, and I think that's important. So what we 587 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: were trying to do here was ensure that the constitutional 588 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: provision that you must be a citizen is protected and 589 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: a president it's not there are non citizens voting anyway, 590 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: worth noting on that. 591 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you're absolutely right to 592 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: take back to you. 593 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 8: While you and I were talking, Ken Paxson put a 594 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 8: pressure lease out saying that he has currently opened up 595 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 8: an investigation into thirty three non citizens that they've identified 596 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 8: the voted in the last election. I guarantee you those 597 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 8: are not the only thirty three, of course, to be clear, 598 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 8: but these are thirty three that the Secretary of State 599 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 8: found when it crossed, referenced just one federal database with 600 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 8: the people that voted, and they referred those to the. 601 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: General and General Packson is on it. So you're right, 602 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: that's why we should verify it. When you register to vote, 603 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: verify citizenship. 604 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 8: Does they send the past that the House killed it? 605 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: Hold with me for just a moment. You can find 606 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: him at lutmacius dot com. There's a blog. Does a podcast. 607 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: Will continue our conversation on what bills, what we're going 608 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: to Obviously, we're going to talk about Dan Patrick's crazy 609 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: and high hemp bill. 610 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't know it looks position on that, but we'll 611 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: talk about that more than I 612 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 9: M hm