1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, welcome back to almost Famous the Ogs. We 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: are doing what I was hoping we would get to 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: do a Bachelor in Paradise recap for episode two, or 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: as we say in Costa Rica dose, that's. 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: All I got, no pantaloni. We are. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 4: We are jumping in for Ben and Ashley because you 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 4: know they've got their hands full with little ones. 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 3: You sure do. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 4: Littler than ours. So yes, so we watched the episode 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 4: and are really excited to chat about it. What were 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: your overall thoughts? 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: You know, I gotta say so, I was excited because 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: I really got to kind of spend some time with 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: this episode and watch the whole thing. Whereas when we 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: were talking about it last time, I had to kind 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: of rush through it. I wasn't really able to see 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: the whole thing, And so this was exciting for me because, 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: you know, I got to see sort of what I 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: was thinking was happening in the last episode and whether 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: or not it actually came to to fruition in this one, 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: which it did in a couple of circumstances. 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: Pus, there will be spoiler spoiler alert. 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: There's gonna be some stuff talked about here, So if 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: you haven't watched that, we'll be pissed off at us. 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: We're talking about it. We're digging in. 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: But but yeah, I actually I really liked that. You know, 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting to see if I was as 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: as opposed to the changes as I felt after the 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: first episode. And I got to be honest, I am 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: very fickle because all of a sudden, I was like, oh, yeah, 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: I guess this isn't so bad. You know, I was 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: rolling with it this time. All my uh my purest 34 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: mentality went right out the window. I'm like, I don't 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: even know what I was talking about last time. This 36 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: isn't something so so yeah, So there was that as well. 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: Interesting to see some of the relationships kind of unfold 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: day two because we opened with breakfast, right, so that 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: was kind of interesting. 40 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 3: How about you? What were your thoughts? 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny that you talk about the purest thing, 42 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: and I know we mentioned that on the last podcast 43 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: when we were talking about it. I so let me 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: just say this. I don't watch Love Island, and I 45 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: know that it just ended. Everyone is like all about 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: this show right now, at least my daughter and all 47 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: of her friends are and everyone on Instagram. Everyone is 48 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: about it, and that's great. Like, I just I don't 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: have I don't have the time because hello, it airs 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: like every night or something, five nights a week. It's 51 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 4: just a lot. It's just a lot. So I don't 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: watch that. And I know that. Ben and Ashley talked 53 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: a little bit on one of the last podcasts about, 54 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 4: you know, the comparisons to Love Island, the like dream 55 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: scenes where they're like, you know whatever, they're kind of acting, 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: and I think that's kind of part of Love Island 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: from what I understand, and they didn't have any in 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: this episode, which I thought was interesting. But you know, 59 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: just saying that I I don't watch Love Island, I 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: actually have thought taking the Love Island aspect out of it, 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 4: or any other reality shows for that matter, comparing it 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 4: to what it's been in the past, just to itself, right, Yeah, yeah, 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: I like. 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: I like. 65 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: I think it's an upgrade. I think that it's like 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: high definition, it's beautiful videography. I think it's like a 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: beautiful setting. There's no other Like we talked about the 68 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: potential of having other hotel guests like be in the scene, 69 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: you know, with them. There's nobody else there, you know, 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: they have taken over this resort or hotel or whatever, 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 4: and I think it's beautiful, like like visually, I think 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: that it's they are doing a beautiful job of the videography, cinematography, 73 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: whatever you call it. And you know, it's not as cheesy, 74 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: which was kind of fun for Bachelor in Paradise, it 75 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: was like cheesy and fun and like the almost the 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: intros for We're kind of like Three's Company esque, you know, 77 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: that was always fun. But I really just feel like 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: it's just kind of elevated in my mind because I'm 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 4: not comparing it to any other show. I'm just comparing 80 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 4: it to like what it used to be. They did 81 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: have that little sequence in the very beginning. It was 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: kind of the intro when they you know, start I 83 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: think it was Alex and Bailey or something. We're like 84 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: hugging and like saying hi to the camera, and then 85 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 4: everyone would walk up to the beach and like you know, 86 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 4: flax or whatever, which I thought that was really cute. 87 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 4: So I'm liking I like the vibe of it, I 88 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: like the feel of it, and and you know me, 89 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm a purist, so yeah, I actually like it. I 90 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 4: think it's I think it's really all about the people 91 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 4: for me and the relationships and the connections and you know, 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: whatever drama happens and you know that kind of stuff. 93 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: But as far as like the vibe of the show 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: and you know, the general vibe of it, I really 95 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: like it. 96 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm with you. 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: I actually, uh, I was almost I was almost disappointed 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: in myself how quickly my opinion changed. 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: But I got over it. I got over that real 100 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: fast too. You know. 101 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: It's like I said, I'm pretty pickle right now. But yeah, 102 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: I thought it was really great, you know, it was. 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: It was kind of interesting to pick up to pick up. 104 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: You know, it's day four essentially in Paradise, right. Zoe 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: would kick it off right overly with Zoe talking about 106 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: how Brian has given her the cold shoulder since she 107 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,679 Speaker 2: gave him a rose. Now we both know the power 108 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: of editing, right, But it is pretty interesting to watch 109 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: how it was almost like he got his rose and 110 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: he was like, Hey, what's up. Yeah, I'm gonna have 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: my my My Moon's over my hammy over here, you know, 112 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: she's just right. 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: Across the bar. 114 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it was pretty I mean, was he just 115 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: doing that to get the rose? Was he just like, 116 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, who knows? 117 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: Right? 118 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like I know, I know us you know. 119 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: Oh god, I can't even talk about it yet, but 120 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: well I will, I will. I'll give away something at 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: the end. One of the things I thought that was 122 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: interesting with Spencer was like, you know, this is ridiculou 123 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: what does this do here for? So I found that 124 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: to be pretty interesting. But what did you think? I mean, 125 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: did you think it was much ado about nothing that 126 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: she was so pissed right out of the gates, or 127 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: do you think it made sense? 128 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: Totally made sense? Are you kidding me? Like he was? 129 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 4: He was acting like they were a think like are 130 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: you good? Are you good? You know, like and they 131 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: had a thing there wasn't There wasn't not a thing. 132 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 4: There was a thing. I don't know how much of 133 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: a thing it was, but there was a thing and 134 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 4: there was a connection there they you know, I loved 135 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: I loved this. She was calling him out, but the 136 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: producers were also calling him out when basically he's saying like, 137 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: you know something to the effect of, oh well, I 138 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: didn't have any one on one time with Parisa and 139 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: we'll get into that obviously. Yeah, but they were totally 140 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: calling him out, like he would be like, oh, I 141 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 4: didn't have any private time, and then the whole show 142 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 4: private time. 143 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: I was a private time. Yeah. I actually thought that 144 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: was really great, you know, it was. It was really cool. 145 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: So I feel like, you know, Zoe is definitely a 146 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: little more like blunt, and you know, she can be 147 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: come across as like brash and like harsh at times. 148 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: I feel like, but I think that she had every 149 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: right to be like, dude, why didn't you even say 150 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: hello to me? Like, even if it was another girl 151 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: and he had no connection with them, like come in 152 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: in the morning and at least sit down and say hello. 153 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: And then his excuse was his excuse was, well, it 154 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 4: takes me a little time or whatever. 155 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: Morning coffee. Are you dingy? Yeah? 156 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: So I felt like even though he was like, well, 157 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: Zoe's being really clingy, I'm like, well, you kind of 158 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 4: led her on to believe that you guys were going 159 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: to wake up in the morning and you would say 160 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: good morning, thank you for the rose last. 161 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: Night last night or whatever. 162 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we don't even know, we don't even 163 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: want you know, who knows maybe there maybe there was 164 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: something that went on after the rose ceremony to kind 165 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: of indicate because in all honesty, I mean, I don't 166 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 2: think Zoe comes off as as let me say this 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: in a delicate way, but I. 168 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: Feel like she might be a little. 169 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: She might have come off as a little bit needy, 170 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: I suppose if you're thinking about it from the grand 171 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 2: scheme of things of hey, this is Bachelor in Paradise. 172 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: Everyone's here to you know, connect as many people as 173 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: possible whatever. So she clearly was getting the indication from 174 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: him somehow, someway that there was more to it, right, 175 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: And so her reaction wasn't out of left field because 176 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: no one else was acting like she was coming out 177 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: of left field. The only only one was trying to 178 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 2: sell us on that was was that dude Bryan. 179 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought. 180 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: That was pretty interesting too, kind of a weird, you know, 181 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: weird feel for sure, And she was definitely. 182 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: Getting some signals. 183 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, And let we need to note that the flipped 184 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: the switch was flipped because or the script was flipped 185 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: because the guys have the roses now. And so I 186 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: wonder if he just wasn't like, oh, I need to 187 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: kiss her ass, so I'll get a rose and I 188 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 4: don't need to anymore, like when you woke up in 189 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: the morning. He's like, yeah, I don't need to kiss 190 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: anybody's ass anymore to get a rose. I'm the one 191 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: with the rose. 192 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: I know, no, in all honesty. 193 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you remember you and I've 194 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: had this conversation before, but many many years ago when 195 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: they had Jake Pavelka on the first Bachelor Pad and 196 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: he was like the first lead into the mix, right, 197 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: And I think I told you they had called me 198 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: because I was splitting up with my axe at the time, 199 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: and They're like, would you come on this show? And 200 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, I thought they met the host and I'm like, 201 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: oh my god. 202 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 203 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: And my whole intention of being like there's absolutely no 204 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: way I would go on the show was the gamesmanship 205 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: that goes into something like this, right, And so I 206 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: knew I couldn't do it. I knew I would feel 207 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: horrible about myself. And then I also knew when I 208 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: had to come home and watch myself, if I did 209 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: those things things that survive, I would hate myself for it, 210 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: you know. And so I was just like, I'm not 211 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: even putting myself in that situation. I can't do it. 212 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 3: I won't do it. And this is exactly it. 213 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: Right, what Brian, at least what we feel we've seen 214 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: so far, is what Brian is showing is exactly that gamesmanship. 215 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: It's like, you know, like on Survivor when they form 216 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: an alliance and then the next day they decide, you know, 217 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: Billy's out right, It's almost like they just forget believe 218 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 2: and exists. They treat them like he doesn't even exist. 219 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: It's like just unbelievable. How the flip can the switch 220 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: can flip? 221 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? And it was almost like as if almost as 222 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 3: if on demand. 223 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: All of a sudden, here rolls in two new hotties 224 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: on jet skis, and you know, Brian's head explodes. Right. 225 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 4: Well, I will say, like, okay, so this show is 226 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 4: a little different than Baptis Bachelorette in that there's there's 227 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 4: really in my mind, they are all single, right, and 228 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 4: they are ready to mingle, and so there's a lot 229 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: of options for both, you know, both sides, and so 230 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: I don't fault them. I don't fault anyone for coming 231 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: in and saying I don't want to right out the 232 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 4: gate like put all my eggs in one basket, Like 233 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: I don't think I really truly don't think there's anything 234 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: wrong with that. Like, hey, if you just want to 235 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: play the field, then then that's fine. But say so, 236 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: like in the beginning, tell Zoey like, hey, listen, I 237 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 4: know we're really having a good time together and I'm 238 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 4: really enjoying that time. But I just want to let 239 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: you know that, you know, I am trying to keep 240 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 4: the door open to other people just to get the 241 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: most out of this experience. Like there's nothing wrong with that, 242 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 4: but just freaking say it. 243 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't don't. You don't through everything you can 244 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: to get a flower and then you know, kick her 245 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: to the gard. Agreed. 246 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was so much going on in 247 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: this one. I'm gonna kind of touch on some notes here, 248 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: you know, one of the things, and I think that 249 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: this relationship actually could be one of those relationships that 250 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: we've seen come through this show. Right out of the gate, Spencer, 251 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: you know, is saying, you know, hey, I'm definitely open 252 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: to have a conversation, but I'm really happy where Jess 253 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: and I are at. You know, I thought that was 254 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: a nice one. Jonathan wants to stay open to everything 255 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: that's going on. And I've actually met Jonathan before. Super 256 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: nice guy, you know, really really think he's a very 257 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: nice guy. 258 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: And let me say, can I stop you right there 259 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: really quick, Jonathan. I feel like when we're comparing Brian 260 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: to Jonathan, Jonathan is saying he's open to these relationships 261 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: and he's talking to people about that. Like later on 262 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 4: in the episode, he goes on the date with Jill, 263 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 4: He's having this you know, relationship with Alex. He goes 264 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: in the kissing booth and he kisses the multi people. 265 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: So I feel like there's a way to go about it, 266 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: to communicate so that you are not coming off as 267 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: disrespectful or or making someone feel like they've been disrespected. 268 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: Right. 269 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: No, And one of the cool things I thought about 270 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: what Jonathan did, and again I think, because I know him, 271 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: I was hoping he would act this way which he did, 272 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: was you know, he goes over to Alex and says, hey, 273 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: you know, Joel's asked me on this date, and Alex's like, yeah, 274 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: you can go. 275 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: You know. And I mean it wasn't like she was 276 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 3: giving him. 277 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: He wasn't looking for permission, right, But I think him 278 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: him being respectful of the fact that they had something going, 279 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: and you know, he wanted her to know that he 280 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: was going to do this, and she was cool with it. 281 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: Kind of says a lot about him and her really, 282 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: you know, I thought that was pretty cool too. You know, 283 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: Jeremy said, Bailey's looking for reassurance, but he didn't want 284 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: to promise anything. 285 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: He wants to stay open. 286 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: Justin saying he plans to continue to explore things with 287 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: LEXI did not feel the need to look much further 288 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: right now. Justin says, but you never know what's gonna 289 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: happen in Paradise. 290 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: You just never know, right well, because other people come in. 291 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: Other people come in. 292 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: And part of the thing, too, I feel is that 293 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: having this season, you know, it's definitely a new season, 294 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: but having the show been on the air for so long, 295 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 2: it's kind of like when you and I did The 296 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: Bachelor and The Bachelorette, we didn't know what the hell 297 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: we were doing, and no one knew because it really 298 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: hadn't been done before and. 299 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: Hadn't been seen a million seasons in a row. 300 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: This one, everyone knows there's some wild cards coming, right, 301 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: and so yeah, I'm gonna keep my connections open. And 302 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they're keeping it open to just who's 303 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: there on that given day because they know tomorrow. 304 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: Is a whole new you know, whole new thing. 305 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, and so so to that end, Parisa and 306 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Ali Joe roll in on jet skis right, like like 307 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: coming in like bats out of hell, and they look 308 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: amazing and they amazing. 309 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: They're both beautiful girls. 310 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Is there any any indication? 311 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost like you're watching Baywatch right he 312 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: has me Bleef jumping off of the jet ski. 313 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: I mean, Ali looks. 314 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: Just like Wins. They are totally twins. So we were 315 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: talking about this before we started the podcast. I looked 316 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 4: her up, Yasmine Bleeth. They are so twins. Is such 317 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: a good call. 318 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: Yes, And by the way, yas me Bleef was truly 319 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: one of my favorites on bay Watch, just as I. 320 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: Mean, she was a fan favorite, like you a fan favorite. 321 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 322 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: So they come in and who are they met with? Spencer, 323 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: Jonathan and our boy Brian right there on the beach. 324 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: Brian just sees him coming. I think he's the one. 325 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: He's like, you know, coming, But I don't think the 326 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: jet ski rolls in. 327 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: She's like totally looking for love and critters, which I 328 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: don't know PRIs Grant season very well. 329 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: But was she talking about critters then? Like, why is 330 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: this critters something? She? 331 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, she was. 332 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 3: I missed that. 333 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: It's kind of her her thing. She's like Ryan. So 334 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 4: if there's a spider in our house, Ryan picks it 335 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: up and takes it outside. 336 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: I think that's even if it's a brown recluse, if 337 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: it's like one of them kind of bite because I 338 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: got bit on the got bid on the weekend. So 339 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: they just pulled up on. 340 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: The jet skis and they ditch the jet skis. It's 341 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: like a great episode of of uh, you know, Baywatch. Yeah, 342 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: I mean they both they both look pretty incredible, honestly, 343 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: God getting off that jet ski so you're like, oh 344 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: my god. And you know, some of the girls reacted 345 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: well to them arriving, Zoe not so much. Zoe didn't 346 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: even want to greet him. Zoe didn't even leave her chair. 347 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: I don't think she looked in their direction. And Zoe 348 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: and Ali Joe have a history, yes. 349 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, And what I thought was really interesting 350 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: and this is flashbwarding a little bit, But. 351 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: Zoe was on. So Ali, Joe and. 352 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: Parse come in and they both get date cards, which 353 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: is what happens with everybody, and Parisa and Brian had 354 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: had a chat and then uh, Brian was on you 355 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 4: know one of those like outdoor beds or whatever with Zoe. 356 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: Brian is with Zoe and they're chatting and Parisa comes 357 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 4: over and interrupts them. And this was a big thing 358 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 4: on Grant Season. It caused a lot of drama. Zoe 359 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 4: interrupted multiple times. She was the interrupter of Grant Season. 360 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 4: And I know that Parisa I, or at least I 361 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 4: remember that Parisa was one of the ones voicing how 362 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: she had a problem and correct me if I'm wrong, 363 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: even even you guys Heather and Abray and if I 364 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: feel like Parisa was one of the ones, yeah, it 365 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 4: was Parisa and Ali Joe that that had an issue 366 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: with her interrupting people. And so I was like, really, 367 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 4: you come on Bachelor in Paradise, And I don't know 368 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: if the producers put her up to this. They very 369 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: well could have, and they could have said, you know, 370 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 4: you should go interrupt Zoe. 371 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: Just like she did on you know, Grant Season or whatever. 372 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: But I was like I don't know. I don't like that. 373 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't like that. 374 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 4: It's like you were calling someone out on the Bachelor 375 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 4: and now you're going to go do it to her 376 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: like that just seems a little hypocritical to see. 377 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: I thought I thought it was the other way around. 378 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: I thought Zoe got mad at Ali Joe for interrupting 379 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: Zoe and Grant. 380 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 3: That's what I thought. That's what I thought it was. 381 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: But you're probably you. 382 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: Thought Zoe you got mad at Ali Joe. 383 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought Ali Joe interrupted Zoe and Grant in 384 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: that pissed off Zoe. 385 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Zoe was the one who did the 386 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: interrupting on Grant season, okay, And and the girls had 387 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: a problem with it, and they voiced that problem. Yeah, 388 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 4: you know, there was there was more going on, like 389 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: during the basketball date, she pulled him away and she 390 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 4: had like a one on one essentially with him during 391 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: the basketball date, and so it took time away from everybody. 392 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: So they had a bigger problem with that. But she 393 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: was interrupting people, and so I don't know, I just that. 394 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: Didn't rub me the right way. But whatever, I mean, 395 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: it is what it is. 396 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's interesting, right, 397 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: because it's it's like they have to use the date 398 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: card that day, so they got to meet everybody as 399 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: quickly as they can, right. 400 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 3: Or they lose it. 401 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: And then that that very next day is an elimination, right, 402 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 2: and and so it's like, I mean, I guess in 403 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: those regards, you got to you gotta think about it. 404 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: It is more of a competitive environment here, you know. 405 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: But this whole episode really was kind of about about Zoe, 406 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: Parisa and Ali Joe, right. I mean it was almost 407 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: like Grant Season part du literally on display. And one 408 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: of the things I thought was interesting was Zoe sort 409 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: of you know, sits them down. I mean they she 410 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: didn't sit down. They're all in the same area. But 411 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: Zoe basically said, this is this is my territory. Anybody 412 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: but Brian, right, don't mess with my man. 413 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. 414 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 2: First of all, don't mess with my man. Incredibly long 415 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: awkward pause. 416 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Or maybe I'm not, she. 417 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 4: Said, and then she said, yeah, I don't, Yeah, maybe 418 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 4: I'm not. No, she wasn't kidding. No, she was not kidding. 419 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: But talk about putting the target on yourself. 420 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: It's almost like you know, because I feel like in 421 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: its moments like this, and I mean I've often said 422 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: this about the whole Bachelor franchise, by the way, so 423 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: please no one take any disrespect from this. But when 424 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: I was a Bachelor, I remember everyone going, what's it 425 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: like to have everyone in love with you? 426 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 3: I'm like, they're not. 427 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I go, you could have a 428 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 2: monkey up there handing out flowers. These women aren't losing 429 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: to any other woman in that room, and so they 430 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: don't get a flower from the monkey. They're pissed off, right, 431 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: And it's like and I'm like, I was just a monkey, 432 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: That's all I was. 433 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 3: I was a vehicle for flower delivery, you know. 434 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: And I do feel like if you go into the 435 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: show with it, take yourself, you know, take the piss 436 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: out of yourself a little bit with a little grain 437 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 2: of salt. 438 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 3: You can laugh at it. 439 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: But in those moments, I was kind of like, you know, 440 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: almost like saying that, like, don't touch Brian, he's mine, 441 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: is almost like, oh, well, you know what, how. 442 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: Weird because I'm really into Brian and. 443 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: She might not be all Joe might pull to Brian 444 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: on Brian tomorrow at breakfast we don't know. But at 445 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's kind of like one 446 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: of those things where it's like you just put your 447 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: paris every other You just put a target on your 448 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: back with that. 449 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 3: You know. 450 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know. 451 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 4: By bringing it up, you're basically like, just as it's 452 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: like when they say, don't think about a purple elephant. 453 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: Don't do you think about a purple elephant? Well, that's 454 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: all you do is think about purple. 455 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, No, thanks for ruining my day. It's 456 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 3: all I got in my head right now. I mean 457 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: it's true though, you know, it's like, don't take my man, kid. 458 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what she does. She takes something that just. 459 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: Means I'm taking your man. Yeah. 460 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: But it's like she's saying, you know, and she's saying, 461 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 2: you're telling me, by the way, so hold on Brian 462 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: to greet them off of the jet ski. I'm going 463 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: back in my notes Spencer, Brian and Jonathan. So Parisa 464 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: is saying, now. 465 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 3: Well, Brian caught my eye when I got off that 466 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: jet ski, so, which I think is really interesting. 467 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 2: I'm stepping on you know, I don't want to step 468 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: on anybody's toast, but it is paradise and I kind 469 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 2: of already semi hate Zoe from you know, six weeks ago, right, 470 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: So it's like, come on, man, I mean, honestly, some 471 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 2: of this stuff is awesome, but it's also it's so transparent. 472 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: That I love it, you know, yeah, yeah, I mean 473 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 4: it really doesn't like they're all there to meet people, 474 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: and if you're interested in someone, then like say that 475 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 4: and be interested in someone and actually like go through 476 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 4: the motions of getting to know them and apologize to 477 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: the person who maybe he already. 478 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Got to know. But like, I think that's what everyone's 479 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: there for. 480 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: If they don't like actually go try to connect with someone, 481 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 4: then why are they there, like, you know, so so 482 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I don't think Parisa was in 483 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: the wrong at all. I think, you know, and Brian too, 484 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: for that matter. I just think that the non hello 485 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 4: in the morning and then kind of like shading her 486 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 4: and saying that she was clinging and you know whatever. 487 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: I just I was like him, well, whatever, you you 488 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 4: had something going. You were like smooching and hanging out 489 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: together like just one on one. 490 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that flashback of the romantic you know, previous 491 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: twenty four hours was pretty telling. I mean, they were, 492 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: they were kind of coupling up, you. 493 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 4: Know, so totally for sure they were for sure they 494 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: were Okay, okay. 495 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: So let's get to the chemistry test. 496 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 4: Because I actually really thought this was such a great idea. 497 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 4: I feel like it for Bachelor in Paradise. Maybe not 498 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 4: Bachelor or a bachelorette because there's just one guy and 499 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: you know, multiple girls or one girl in multiple guyes. 500 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: But for Bachelor and Paradise, I thought it was really 501 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 4: interesting because I don't know if I don't know if 502 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 4: we've ever talked about this, but my mom before I 503 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: went was like, you know, just make sure that they're 504 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: a good kisser. 505 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: That was her like. 506 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: It is because truly, if you are not compatible when 507 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: you kiss someone, then I don't know that. 508 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: The relationship is going to work. 509 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: That is really a key component of any relationship, like 510 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 4: romantic relationship, I believe absolutely. So I thought that was 511 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: really interesting and the fact that you know that you 512 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: had to have both people had to had to. 513 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: Or whatever I thought was really interesting and. 514 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 4: Very insightful into like who's into who and who is 515 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: a hot commodity and who's there just to kiss all 516 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 4: the people, which was Brian. He was like, I'm just 517 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 4: going to keep it everybody. 518 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: I just have to say one of my favorite moments 519 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: of that how they're going through it, you know, Wells 520 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: and Hannah calm. Wells take the guys, Hannah takes the 521 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: ladies and they go through the whole thing, and uh, 522 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: I loved how the producer would come in at the 523 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: end and it was like a dude with a beard 524 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: in a headset and he's like, I wonder who's everyone 525 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 2: of these guys. I wonder who's coming next. I hope 526 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 2: it's Deddy. Oh my god, if Debbie Pup's in here, 527 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: that's gonna be great. And all of a sudden it's 528 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 2: this big old producer and he's like, yeah, you're done, bro, 529 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 2: no one else swiped for you. 530 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: And then he's like, I can give you one of these. 531 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: I can give you one of these. 532 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 3: One of these. 533 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Yes. 534 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: I thought that was so funny. 535 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: I kind of love how Wells and Hannah are like 536 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: they're putting them into the mix and it's not just Jesse. 537 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: I mean, so in that scene, you know, Wells is 538 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: with the guys, Hannah's with the girls. 539 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: They have iPads and then Jesse is. 540 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: On the iPad, yeah, and who knows if he was 541 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: traveling or something or had to go home. But I 542 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: love that they are incorporating Hannah into it a lot. 543 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: And yeah, and Wells even, I mean, he's been a 544 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 4: part of dates on Bachelor in Paradise before. 545 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: But this is definitely a bigger role for him. I mean, 546 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: you know, yeah for sure years past. 547 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So I'd like to see Hannah have a 548 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: little more to say. 549 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: I'd like to see her a little more involved because 550 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: I mean her personality as such that you. 551 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: Know, but you know how it is. 552 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe she was kind of feeling the ropes out 553 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: at first, and you know, and Wells was taking the 554 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: reins or whatever. You know, So we'll see what happens 555 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: when she's on her own with everybody more. 556 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 4: I also feel like, yeah, we might not be seeing 557 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 4: her talking a whole lot, but she is. She is 558 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 4: part of it. But also I know from personal experience 559 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: that when you're there, it doesn't matter how much you talk. 560 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 4: If they want to hear what you have to say 561 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: in the edit, then they're going to put you in 562 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 4: the edit, like if you if it doesn't play a 563 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: part in whatever's happening then fine, like I I mean 564 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: I went to the we went to the Golden Bachelor, 565 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 4: or when I did the pickleball date on Golden Bachelor 566 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 4: that Joey was there with me, and I actually asked 567 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: Joey to be the Bachelor on camera like they were 568 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: They were like, Okay, we really love for you to 569 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 4: be the one to ask Joey to be our next Bachelor. 570 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: And I felt so honored and I did it and 571 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: they didn't include it in the show. I was like, 572 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: so it just does it? Like who knows? 573 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 4: Like Hannah, I'm sure is recording things, but what we're 574 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: being shown is, you know, just what fits into the 575 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: episode because they do have so many people. 576 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: Oh and there's so much to cover, right, I mean, 577 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: it's just move and move and movement. I mean it's crazy. 578 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: So Brian chose to click. He asked to kissing everyone. However, 579 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: Jonathan and Dale had the most matches for kissing, which 580 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: I thought was interesting. Jonathan kissed alex, Ali, Joe, Prisa, 581 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: and Bailey right, and I thought those were all pretty interesting. 582 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: Justin and Spencer they only chose to kiss one woman, right, 583 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: I love that. I thought that was interesting too, Brian 584 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: got to kiss Zoe and Parisa right Spencer only Jess 585 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: I thought was really nice. 586 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: Jared, I love that. Another nice little match up there. 587 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: Justin kissed Lexi but she said it was uncomfortable in 588 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 3: her worst nightmare. And I think she may have said 589 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 3: I was just eating guacamole. She did, she did. 590 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: That was so funny. 591 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 3: Oh my god, gosh. 592 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: And and we've got like someone who is not worried 593 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: about their breath. And then Parisa who's literally kissing Jonathan 594 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 4: with gum in her mouth. 595 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: She got a doublem, you know, slam in there. 596 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 597 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: Dale who's clearly uh you know, hot commodity. He kissed Alex, 598 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: Kat Ali, Joe and Zoe and he gave kat a little. 599 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: Extra love, which was which was nice, you know for them. 600 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: They seem to be connecting. 601 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: I think they're connecting really well. I like I like 602 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 4: their connection. I do find it very interesting that we 603 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: haven't been shown any conversations that they or anyone else 604 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: has had about him and and Claire. 605 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 606 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: I've been interested with that too. I was, I was 607 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: wondering when and how that would come up. But you know, again, 608 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: that might be something that's on the cutting room floor, 609 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: I suppose, But to me, it seems like it might 610 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: come up as things. 611 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 3: Begin to get more serious because he wasn't. 612 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: He didn't come out of that whole thing unscathed, you 613 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like he I felt like, you know, 614 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: everybody's in Dale because he's a great looking dude and 615 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: everything else. 616 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: But you know, if what. 617 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: They're saying is true, like oh, I only want to 618 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: be with someone who's got great intentions and everything, well, 619 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 2: then the relationship you have with Claire will come up, right, 620 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: It will have to. 621 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: Ah, I mean. 622 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: It has to. 623 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 4: I can't even imagine. And honestly, I would feel like 624 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 4: it's something that should be discussed right at the gate, 625 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 4: like him mine, Like this is obviously Bachelor in Paradise 626 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: and you met Claire and got engaged in and left 627 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: the show before it was over and then things happened, 628 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 4: and so I it is very interesting to me that 629 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 4: it hasn't been brought up. 630 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: But you're right, maybe they're just saving it for later. 631 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he could be. 632 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: He could theoretically be one of the first people and 633 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: we don't know, we don't know how the season ends, 634 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: but one of the very first or maybe the only 635 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: person that's ever gotten engaged on the actual Bachelorette or 636 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: a Bachelor because they did get engaged right and then 637 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: get engaged Bachelor in Paradise. 638 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: That's never happened where the one person is done on 639 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 3: both shows? 640 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: Has it? Has it? 641 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so. Yeah, I don't 642 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: think so. Could happen? 643 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: That is interesting, very interesting. We need to do some 644 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: research either. Can you chime in this? 645 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: We now go on a double date, right we got 646 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: Parisa asks Brian on the date and Ali Joe asks 647 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: Jonathan on the date, and. 648 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: The date gets pretty interesting. 649 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: They roll into this random bar in Costa Rica and 650 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: who what would you know? 651 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 3: It happens to be Well's night job Slee story what 652 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 3: I was doing here, you know, which I thought was 653 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: really funny. He's like, hey, cocktail, Oh what's up? Guys? 654 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: Hey, Oh my gosh, oh crazy you here. I'm not paradising, 655 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm here, you know, mixing up cocktails in Costa Rica. 656 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no you're not. But whatever, So it's cute. 657 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 3: It was it was good. 658 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cute. 659 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 4: I thought that that actually was a really cute like 660 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: first date, you know, like something to like get to 661 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: know each other and get through the discomfort of like, 662 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 4: you know, physical touch. 663 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: You know, when they. 664 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: Were climbing over each other like a sloth. I thought 665 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 4: that was actually really funny and. 666 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: That was next level. 667 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: Yes, oh okay, wait hold please, Heather has gotten back 668 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: to us back Yeah, true story. 669 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: Becca got engaged? Yeah, yeah, Becca. 670 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 3: Is so Becca got engaged on The Bachelor. 671 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 4: Technically they got they got engaged after Bachelor in Paradise 672 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 4: her and Thomas. 673 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 3: Yes, so she did not technically get engaged on the show. 674 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, right, I got it. 675 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, although Susie, Susie ended up being. 676 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: One of the ones. Wait she didn't, she told Clayton. No, right, right, right, Okay. 677 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: Our producers are telling us that Becca got engaged to Ari, 678 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: then got engaged on her own season of the Bachelorette, 679 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: and then kind of sort of got engaged on Paradise 680 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: because it happened after Paradise. Yeah, for sure, Becca loves 681 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: being engaged. 682 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 3: We know, I think she. 683 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: Loves being married more. 684 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: But she's a stockholder and Neil Lane. Yes, she's got 685 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: Neil Lane stock at home. Fun. No, I'm just teasing back. 686 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm sure she loves being married much more. But yes, yeah, 687 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: I think for sure, yeah, I think that was that. 688 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 3: So that does kind of throw my whole thing out 689 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: the window. 690 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: But anyway, so the first game they play, which I 691 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: thought was great twerk off. It looked like they had 692 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: some Rando's in there too, right, it wasn't just the 693 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: best and that lady won, so she won the twork off. 694 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: We got to shake the balls out of the box 695 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: by shaking your heine and Rando wins, which was nice. 696 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure Rando was watching that one at home that episode, 697 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: so we got some Costa Ricans watching the show, which 698 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: is nice. Second game, never seen this, Well I've seen this, 699 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: but I've never heard it. Called this the sloth climb. 700 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: So you climb around your partner without touching the ground. 701 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: And I gotta be honest, that's a pretty spectacular game. 702 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 3: I love it. I was watching, I'm like, I actually. 703 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: I want to do that with Ryan. 704 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: Hey, Bait, can I climb over you and just see 705 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: if I could not touch the ground like that takes 706 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 4: some talent, I don't know, yeah, and some strength and flexibility. 707 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 3: First of all, anyone who can do that? 708 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: The woman climbing on the guy, any woman that can 709 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: do that has amazing core strength. 710 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 3: Let's just say that, right, yeah. 711 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: Real, and typically the ladies are much lighter than the guys, 712 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 2: so the guys not that hard for a dude to 713 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 2: stand there and really enjoy that game. 714 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 3: Let's just say that third game, along comes Hector L. 715 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: Gigante or something of that nature, who's a locale. 716 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 3: Which means Hector the Giant. I believe was his name 717 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 3: was Hector. 718 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 2: I'm not i'mentirely sure about that, but he is an 719 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: arm wrestling champion and these dudes need to square off 720 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 2: against him. And I'm sure there was some type of 721 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: prize that you know, they were going to win in 722 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: the event that they won this arms contest. According to 723 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: what we saw, Jonathan took down Hector L. 724 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: Gigante. 725 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I have to say one thing that I 726 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 4: think they're doing that's really cute to me. 727 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: And maybe this was part of Bachelor in Paradise when 728 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: they were in Mexico. It might not have been, but 729 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: it might have been. 730 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 4: So when they have like they show their itms and 731 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 4: then they show like their name and underneath their name, 732 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 4: they're going like, so when when that part came up, 733 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 4: Jonathan Allis said was hell. 734 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: So I didn't notice it. 735 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: Then I noticed it when Jill when it came up 736 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: for Jill and I said, desperate for Love. I hadn't 737 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 2: noticed that before either, and I saw that and I 738 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: literally just started laughing, like I was trying to cram 739 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,399 Speaker 2: this episode in, so I was like driving and I'm 740 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: like laughing hysterically watching it. 741 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Oh my god. 742 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 4: So and then for Zoe, she when she was talking 743 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 4: to Parisa and Ali, Joe she Parsa was like, oh no, 744 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 4: maybe it was when she was talking to Brian and 745 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 4: Parsa came and interrupted her, and she was like, oh no, 746 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 4: I'm Gucci, meaning I'm good. 747 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: Like I'm a Gucci. 748 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 4: And the thing it says she's not Gucci or Zoe 749 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 4: is not. 750 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: So funny. 751 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 3: That's really funny. 752 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 2: I didn't notice that Zoe's not Gucci, but yeah, she 753 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 2: was not Gucci in that moment at all. 754 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 3: The opposite. Actually, yeah, oh my gosh. 755 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 2: All right, so while we're gone on this double date, 756 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 2: two more ladies show up. Well, one of the time 757 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: Jill arrives from Clayton's season and from Bache Bachelor Paradise 758 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: season eight, and Jill was the one where it goes 759 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 2: to underneath said desper for long and she's like, I 760 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: don't have a type. I'm an open door. I like 761 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: I like all men. 762 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: I like them all, anyone who's breathing, Yeah, I'll take him. 763 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: And then and during that time, again brilliant editing. You know, 764 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: I say it a million times when I talk about 765 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: all like The Bachelor, Bachelor and Paradise, Bachelotte, all of it. 766 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: These producers produce romance so well. 767 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: And it's here they are again, Lexi and Justin on 768 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 2: the beach having this heartfelt conversation about are you ready? 769 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: And he's like I think I am, and she's like, 770 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 771 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 2: And it was like really obvious that she was basically saying, look, bro, 772 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to separate myself from this because you don't 773 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: know where your head's at. 774 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 775 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 2: And then da da da, as if on command enters 776 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 2: Susie his ex. Yes, and in full transparency, I need 777 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: to say I have spent time with these two together 778 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: when they were a couple and then again when they 779 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 2: had just recently kind of taken a break, but they 780 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: were still on a trip that I was on and lovely, 781 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 2: lovely people, both of them really yea lovely people and 782 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: one of those couples that, god, you just wish they 783 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: would work out because they're such awesome people, you know, 784 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 2: and and so I, you know, knowing them, I don't 785 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 2: feel like I know them that well, but knowing them 786 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 2: as I do, I'm like, oh, no, oh god. 787 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 3: What is this. 788 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm watching it like just so invested, and I'm like, no, Susie, what, 789 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what's going to happen? You know? And 790 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 2: you know, it was interesting because they both had moments 791 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 2: where they were very concerned about the other person, right 792 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 2: and here again I think just reiterating what great, what 793 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 2: nice people they both are, and how they handled this 794 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 2: situation with about as much kindness as you could. Obviously 795 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 2: not probably knowing I wouldn't guess that the other one 796 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 2: was going to be on the show. Or maybe one 797 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: might have known and still thought it was okay. I 798 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 2: don't know, but it was pretty obvious that Justin had 799 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 2: no clue Susie was showing up. 800 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 4: I Yeah, who knows if they if they had any idea, 801 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 4: I think even if they did, it's just harder to 802 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 4: like see that person in person because they had just 803 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 4: they broke up. They broke up four months prior to 804 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: when they filmed, and. 805 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: That's just hard. 806 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 4: That's that's especially with someone who I think justin put 807 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 4: it as I or maybe it was Susie said, I 808 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: have never had a relationship like that, Like it was. 809 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 4: It was definitely a love, a loving relationship and probably 810 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 4: something that they thought would go farther farther, a lot 811 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 4: farther into the future. So so I think it's sad, 812 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 4: but I think what you know, they sat down and 813 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: talked and they were talking about you know, and she 814 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 4: talked to Jill because they were on the same Bachelor 815 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 4: season and then they were I think or maybe it 816 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 4: was Bachelor in Paradise, but they know each other, there friends, 817 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 4: and she was kind of getting the scoop and she's like, 818 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 4: Susie was like, I just feel bad for not only 819 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 4: for us, because this is a fresh breakup in a way, 820 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 4: but but even maybe even more so for the people 821 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 4: who are trying to like get to know us, you know, 822 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 4: like for Lexi and for you know, whomever comes along. 823 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: So I think that's true. 824 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 4: Like I felt like Lexi was being so respectful, you know, 825 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 4: Justin was really trying to kind of nedture, not in 826 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: a disrespectful way, but be like I'm good, you know, 827 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 4: like you know, I'm interested in you, and and Lexi 828 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 4: was like, well, you know, I just want to be 829 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 4: respectful and I want you to make sure that you've healed. 830 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 4: So I think it's really it'll be really interesting to see, 831 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 4: especially when we get to the end of the show, 832 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 4: which we are getting to to. 833 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,479 Speaker 1: See what happens with Susie and Justin. 834 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Susie and Jill show up. 835 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: Now we're going into day five, right, So now we're 836 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 2: coming into the final day of this episode, which we 837 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 2: all know ends in Rose ceremonies as always. Yeah, the 838 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: dudes have the keys of the Kingdom today, so the 839 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: guys are giving out the flowers. And I think it's 840 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 2: pretty interesting because Jill and Susie, you can tell you 841 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 2: have a nice friendship, and Jill's really like funny and engaging, 842 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 2: and Jill's like pulls Susie aside, wipes out in the process, 843 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 2: which is pretty hysterical. And then uh, and then like 844 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,479 Speaker 2: you know, Susie pulls her up and she starts filling 845 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 2: her in on all the tea. 846 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 3: You know, here's who's with who, and this doesn't seem 847 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 3: so serious. 848 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: This one kind of does whatever and I and I agree, 849 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 2: Like Susie says at this point, she's like, I feel 850 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 2: like I came at a terrible time. 851 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 3: She did. I mean, there was never. 852 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 2: Gonna be a good time for Susie and Justin to 853 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 2: be on this show together at the same time. Like 854 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: it was going to end, you know, poorly one way 855 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 2: or another perhaps, and but it was definitely gonna be difficult, 856 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 2: right for both of them. 857 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 3: I don't care. If you truly love somebody and you 858 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 3: don't work out, you know, you might not be right 859 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 3: for each other. 860 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: It's still hard to see that person with someone new. 861 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I've gone through it. I know you've probably 862 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 2: gone through it in your life as well, and it's 863 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 2: like you get to that point where you're like, man, 864 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 2: you know, I want them to be happy, but do 865 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 2: I have to watch it all unfold in real time? 866 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 3: Like I can't really like torture. Torture for sure. 867 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: So Susie and Jill are giving date cards as everyone 868 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,439 Speaker 2: that's new to the scene arrives. It gets one right, 869 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 2: so they're both and they both basically have one day, 870 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 2: I mean really to make connections that will keep them 871 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 2: in paradise, right because if they don't, the guys are 872 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 2: giving out the roses, so you know, and they both. 873 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 3: Say what they won't do to get those those date cards. 874 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if you caught that part or not, 875 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: but Jill made a pretty funny joke. Jill's like, I mean, 876 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 2: I don't really know a lot the other way to 877 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 2: get date cards, and she made a kind of a 878 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: crude noise, which I thought was really funny. And they're like, yeah, 879 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 2: we're not doing that. Neither one of us are doing 880 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 2: that to get a date card for that. 881 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 3: Good for that? So I thought that was pretty good. 882 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 3: So Jeremy and Susie. 883 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 2: So Jeremy pulls Susie side for a chat, which is 884 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 2: ballsy because he does it right in front of Justin. 885 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 3: Right Justin is kind of sitting there, and. 886 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,959 Speaker 2: They're just in proximity as you would be with someone 887 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: that you just spent a year and a half with, 888 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 2: you know, so they just happened to be in proximity. 889 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, can we can we chat? You know, 890 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: and they go over to have a conversation and he 891 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 2: thought she was really cute. 892 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 3: He said. One of the people the. 893 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 2: Names he brought up before he even came to the 894 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: island was Susie. Like if she could be there, that'd 895 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 2: be awesome. Here she shows up, so he's pretty excited 896 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: about that. I'll let you take this next one. Brian, Parisa, Jonathan, 897 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: and Ali Joe returned from their date. So one thing 898 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 2: that I noticed before you before we talk about this, 899 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 2: and I almost fell victim to this, right, was I 900 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 2: thought Brian gave her some sugar and he comes in, 901 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, how is your. 902 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 3: Night, you know or whatever? 903 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 2: And yeah, she she basically is like that's not enough 904 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 2: for her. She's not happy. So a lot goes on 905 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 2: that night, right, so a lot of people do an exercise. 906 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: On day five, Brian and Zoe sitting awkward at the bar. 907 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? 908 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 4: It's just the same, you know, like I think Zoe was. 909 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 4: Zoe was pissed because she had established a connection she 910 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 4: felt like and Brian went on the date with Parisa 911 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 4: and and he came back and from what she said, 912 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 4: he came back and didn't even say hi to her. 913 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: You're right, like. 914 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 4: He came in and kind of she was sitting down 915 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 4: and he was standing up and kind of hugged her 916 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 4: from behind, and I guess she just didn't feel like 917 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,400 Speaker 4: that was enough for her. And then they were making 918 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 4: out in the pool. But you know, I'm kind of like, well, 919 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 4: yeah they are, but you were being a little standoffish, 920 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 4: like you didn't get up out of your chair to 921 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 4: say welcome back, and you know, you do you want 922 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 4: to go talk? Did you have a fun date or whatever? 923 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 4: And I feel like she was just coming from a 924 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 4: place of hurt, like she's probably like had had feelings already, 925 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 4: or you know, just at least minimal feelings, and she 926 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 4: thought that there would maybe be something there. So I'm 927 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 4: sure it was coming from a place of hurt. But 928 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 4: I do feel like maybe Brian was like, Okay, well 929 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 4: I gave her a little hug from behind. I don't 930 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 4: know that that was would be what I want either, 931 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 4: Like I would want him to like say, hey, can 932 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:02,919 Speaker 4: we go talk? 933 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 3: Can we talk? Yeah? 934 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? And you know she needed a little bit more. 935 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 4: I feel like you probably should have given her a 936 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 4: little bit more. 937 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: He didn't. 938 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 4: Whatever, And so he's going to like hang out with 939 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 4: barsa more, and so be it. 940 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: You know whatever, that is what. 941 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 2: It is, all right, So Brian and Zoe said augardly 942 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 2: in silence the bar, Zoe looks pissed, and just to 943 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 2: touch on that too, you know, to start day five, 944 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 2: and Zoe does look pissed, and it's like when someone's 945 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: mad at me, I will just say, and you know, 946 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 2: I've been the same woman for twelve years. When I 947 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 2: when I know she's mad at me, I want to 948 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,439 Speaker 2: give her her space. I'm not defending Brian, by the way, 949 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,439 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it is. And when you haven't really 950 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 2: had time to gel in a relationship very well and 951 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 2: you've only known each other for four days, it's like, 952 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 2: if someone's giving me the stink eye, I'm probably gonna 953 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 2: at this point be like, all right, whatever, moving on. Yeah, 954 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how much, like because it's like how 955 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 2: much time am I putting into this, you know, And 956 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 2: so you got to kind of read the room a 957 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 2: little bit too, Like I think Zoe probably could have 958 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 2: been served by maybe changing her attitude of touch to 959 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 2: see if it. 960 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 3: Could go somewhere. 961 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 2: But I totally understand how she's feeling and where she's 962 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 2: coming from, and she's entitled to that. 963 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 3: And she did handle herself in a respectful manner. 964 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: So Joe Joe Jonathan basically says he sees a lot 965 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,479 Speaker 2: of potential on Alex still thinks to each other's number 966 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: one even after his date with Jill. So they go 967 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: on a friend date, which Alex basically says she's totally 968 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 2: cool with. 969 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 3: Go have fun. You know, he goes on the date. 970 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 3: It had the potential. 971 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 2: I mean, had there been another day, had Jill perhaps 972 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: been on that island for another day, right, or if 973 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: you know a day previous that had potential to go somewhere. 974 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 2: Don't you think like they're playing twister, It's like it's 975 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: they're kissing. It's like, wow, I thought it was cute. 976 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a little chemistry. 977 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 4: I think it was definitely friend zone chemistry, and they 978 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 4: were just trying you know. But I but I love 979 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 4: that he went along with it. You know, he went 980 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 4: on the date and was open to their being a 981 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: connection with her instead of just shutting her out and 982 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 4: being like, you're new, I've already kind of chatted with 983 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 4: a couple other girls. So I think that that like 984 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 4: he's showing how I think you you do paradise, you know, 985 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 4: I've never gone to paradise, but I feel like he's 986 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 4: he's handling. 987 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: Himself really well. 988 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah I do too, And again full disclosure, I know 989 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 2: the dude. I like him, so I like seeing himself 990 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: he handle himself this way. I think it's funny, you know. 991 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 2: And this is foreshadowing perhaps, but Wells makes the comment 992 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 2: that he doesn't see Jonathan and Alex's relationship, you know, 993 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 2: going the distance, and he's. 994 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 3: Like, I've been doing this for a long time. I 995 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 3: know it. 996 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: I never re So that's either gonna be foreshadowing that 997 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 2: he's right again or it's gonna be totally. 998 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 3: Blown up in his face. In my opinion, We're going 999 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 3: to see how this goes. 1000 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, so Jesse, he's the one of the first 1001 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 2: to welcome Susie and Jill. Of course, he gives Susie 1002 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: a daycard for an afternoon on the water. He gives 1003 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 2: Jill the daycard for the VIP s the VIP and 1004 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 2: BP yeh got pips. Thank you, And he says that 1005 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: he says it out loud. He's like, tonight four ladies 1006 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: are going home, which means only six roses going out, right, 1007 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting Zoe and Brian finally have 1008 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 2: their moment where. 1009 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 3: They're clear in the air. It's it's aggressive, right, I mean, 1010 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 3: it's it's tense. 1011 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 2: I felt like I was like watching that conversation, I'm like, god, man, 1012 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 2: I found Brian. I would just be quiet right now 1013 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 2: because I would hate to watch us at home and 1014 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 2: see myself. 1015 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 3: Looking like this. 1016 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 2: I would I'd just be like, I'm just gonna take 1017 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 2: a beating here. Go ahead, Zoe, just go after me. 1018 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 2: I deserve Yeah, totally, he can't. 1019 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 3: He can't back down. Man. He stays in it, you know, 1020 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 3: but he finally tells it. The truth has a connection. 1021 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 4: I was like, it needed to be said. He needed 1022 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 4: to say that, and you know, Zoe walks away and 1023 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 4: she's not happy, but I but I get it, like 1024 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 4: that was her really sole connection because she did end 1025 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 4: up talking to Dale too, and Dale basically told her 1026 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,360 Speaker 4: that he's calling with Kat at least at this point. 1027 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: So no, yeah, I thought that was interesting. I mean, 1028 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: it could have gone differently for Zoe. I mean, this 1029 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 2: is an argument to be made, right to play the 1030 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 2: game a little bit. I suppose it could have gone 1031 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,080 Speaker 2: differently for Zoe had she just not sit around salkon 1032 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 2: all day while he was out on that date with Jill. 1033 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: She could have been being fun and flirty with a 1034 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 2: bunch of other people and whatever. You know, I guess yeah. 1035 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 4: Although I also feel like this season, and maybe it's 1036 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,919 Speaker 4: different from past seasons, but I feel like there are 1037 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,400 Speaker 4: I can't remember who came in and they were talking 1038 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 4: about who's with who, and I remember thinking, is this 1039 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 4: different now because it seemed like a lot of people 1040 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 4: are coupled up. I think Susie when she came in 1041 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 4: and Jill was giving her the rundown, She's. 1042 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: Like, there's already like couples. What are you talking about? 1043 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 4: Like, I think she felt like she was coming in 1044 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 4: pretty early and for them to already be people. 1045 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: So who knows what was happening in that moment. 1046 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 4: And you know, Zoe, I have felt like all these 1047 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 4: people were already coupled up and she didn't have the 1048 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,439 Speaker 4: opportunity to go talk to anyone, and maybe she didn't 1049 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 4: have like the chemistry with anyone, or she wasn't attracted 1050 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 4: to anyone other than Dale and Brian, So you know, 1051 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 4: who knows what was happening behind the scenes. I just 1052 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 4: feel like, you know, we. 1053 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Zolle and Brian are definitely not a thing anymore. 1054 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone's I don't know if anyone's 1055 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: a thing for Brian. 1056 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 4: I think he'll probably leave Paradise thinking I'm just going 1057 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,479 Speaker 4: to get to know as many people as I can, 1058 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:36,880 Speaker 4: which is fine. 1059 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 2: Like I said, he does seem very into Prisa though, 1060 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: so who knows, this could be a redeeming thing for him, right. 1061 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 3: I thought a. 1062 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,600 Speaker 2: Really cool moment too. I love seeing like a little 1063 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 2: bit of girl power here. Lexi and Susie kind of 1064 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 2: have a moment and Lexi is like, look, I'm just 1065 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 2: trying to be respectful, and you. 1066 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 3: Know, I loved that, I really did. I thought that was. 1067 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 2: All yeah, And and Susie's basically, look, man, I get it. 1068 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. We've talked, we're supportive of each other. 1069 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 2: We want you you know, this is something, you know. 1070 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 2: It was almost like she was being supportive of their relationship, 1071 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 2: like given the no you know, like you can do this, 1072 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 2: you know. And I thought that was really nice of 1073 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 2: both of them. You know, probably would have been good 1074 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 2: to bring justin in on that conversation too, just to 1075 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 2: kind of let them know, you know, where everyone's was 1076 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,880 Speaker 2: at Ali Joe and Dale. Ali Joe obviously knows how 1077 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 2: to play the game. I mean, yasmine Bleeth. Also in 1078 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 2: every episode of Baywatch would have done. This is the 1079 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 2: same thing she pulls aside Dale. So she's going after 1080 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 2: number two just in case, right, just the case it 1081 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 2: doesn't work out with number one, and you know, probably 1082 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 2: a smart move. 1083 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 3: She pulls Dale aside. 1084 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: Kisses him like a pretty a pretty intimate kiss, like 1085 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 2: Dale's not afraid to. He calls her Jojo, which I 1086 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 2: was like, there's only one Jojo Bro Joe, b B. 1087 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,240 Speaker 3: There's only one Jojoe. 1088 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:01,439 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I'm sorry everyone, I'm apologizing. 1089 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm not known for my original humor. Okay, Well, what 1090 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 2: I thought was great was Kat Like she sees them 1091 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 2: over there. Instead of sulking and getting all upset, she 1092 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 2: decides to go out and play with little mermaids in 1093 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 2: the in the sea right where he can hear right 1094 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 2: in her eyeline, which I thought brilliant. 1095 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I thought so too. That was very cute, And. 1096 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 4: I actually I think that she's actually I think that 1097 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 4: Wells may have touched on this, but she wasn't like 1098 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 4: kind of being like agro jealous, crazy, And I feel 1099 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 4: like on Bachelor in Paradise, the last season she was on, 1100 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 4: she may have gotten a little jealous and like spoken 1101 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 4: or said as much. And I think Wells pointed out 1102 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm crazy for remembering this, but 1103 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,479 Speaker 4: I feel like Wells was like, is this really hard 1104 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 4: for you to, like, you know, have Dale over there? 1105 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 4: And She's like, uh huh, really really hard. But I 1106 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 4: think she's really doing I think she's doing great job 1107 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 4: of like keeping her emotions in check and just letting 1108 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 4: things play out and like putting herself out there and 1109 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 4: like connecting with him when she gets the opportunity to. 1110 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: So I think that's that's that's great. I think she's 1111 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: a smart herself really well too. 1112 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 2: It shows emotional growth, right, I mean she's learning, right, 1113 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 2: I mean, what's the definition of insanity, right, doing the 1114 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 2: same thing over and over and expecting a different result. 1115 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 3: So she's not. 1116 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 2: Doing that, which is nice. All right, So real quick, 1117 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,760 Speaker 2: we'll touch on the Jeremy and Susie date. So Jeremy showed, 1118 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 2: you know, Susie reaches basically advice Jeremy to go on 1119 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 2: the jet ski date where her they have a great time, right, 1120 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 2: and Jeremy again, much like what I thought Jonathan did. 1121 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 3: It was really respectful. Jeremy goes over tells Bailey about 1122 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 3: the date. 1123 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 2: She's like, go have fun, have a great time, you know, 1124 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 2: and she feels confident about their connection, is like, go 1125 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 2: to it, you know, which I think with a girl 1126 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 2: like Susie, I would think I could see people being like, 1127 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 2: oh my god, you know what is going on, sous 1128 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,280 Speaker 2: He's a great personality, super prior to here she goes. 1129 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 2: But they go out, they have a great day. You know, 1130 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 2: they're out there having a really wonderful time. 1131 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 3: You know. 1132 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: Jeremy tells Susie wouldn't have wanted to go on a 1133 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 2: date with anybody else, on the same date with anybody else. 1134 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 2: He loves that he's getting the knower, you know. He 1135 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 2: gives her a little bit of a kiss. They have 1136 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 2: a little bit of a romantic connection there. So I 1137 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 2: thought that was interesting. And then Joe and Jonathan of 1138 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 2: course on their their VIP b I P suitet date, right, 1139 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: they're playing twister, they're drinking bloody. 1140 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 3: Mary's a little bit of a love connection. 1141 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 2: No one knows where that's what's gonna go he even 1142 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 2: says he's like, you know, he's clearly got a type, right, 1143 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 2: because both girls that he's hanging out with are very 1144 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 2: kind of funny, keep it friendly, keep it light vibe, right, 1145 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, and so from a personality perspective, 1146 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,239 Speaker 2: at least, uh, he's gotta gotta type. So they both 1147 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 2: are a little bit surprised by the spark they feel. 1148 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 2: But you know, they come back from the date and 1149 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 2: of course now it is time for the roast ceremony, 1150 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 2: so you're you go, right, the guys who've got the keys? 1151 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 3: What do you think about that? 1152 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 2: Well? 1153 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, I think it was a little tense because 1154 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 4: there are people who and always this is the case 1155 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 4: when it comes to Bachelor in Paradise rose ceremonies, you 1156 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 4: don't know at least a few people who are going 1157 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 4: to give you know, their roses too, and I think 1158 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 4: you know, most of them were you could probably guess, 1159 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 4: you know, Spencer and Jess are they only chose each 1160 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 4: other for their for the kissing booth, and you know 1161 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 4: they give kisses. 1162 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: To each other during the rose ceremonies, so they're they're solid. 1163 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,720 Speaker 4: Alex I thought I thought there might be a chance 1164 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 4: of Jonathan giving Jill his rose, but you know, because 1165 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 4: he's had more time with Alex, I just felt like 1166 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 4: that was probably going to be the safe bet. And 1167 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,719 Speaker 4: then Dale has you know, even though he had some 1168 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 4: great moments with Ali Joe, they they seemed like they 1169 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 4: have a lot of chemistry in terms of the kissing 1170 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 4: booth and I hanging out afterwards. 1171 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 2: You know what I really liked about that this was 1172 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,359 Speaker 2: a redeeming moment for Dale for me because I'm still 1173 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 2: not sure what I think about him, right, I know 1174 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 2: he's good looking and all that good stuff, but like 1175 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 2: I was still kind of on the fence. Was when 1176 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 2: he kind of goes, I was in the middle of 1177 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 2: talking to I don't know who he was talking to. Actually, 1178 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,600 Speaker 2: I think it might have been Ali Joe, I'm not sure, 1179 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 2: and he goes and I look across the bar and 1180 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 2: I see Kat and they play back the conversation where 1181 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,320 Speaker 2: he's like talking and he like looks at Kat and 1182 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 2: he just sort of like stops and looks at her 1183 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 2: and lost train and lost his train of thought, and 1184 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 2: he goes, I haven't had that feeling and so long, 1185 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 2: And in that moment, I knew it was her, and 1186 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: that kind of gave me this sense of redemption for him, 1187 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: Like not that he doesn't owe me anything as a viewer, right, 1188 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 2: but for whatever reason, my I know Claire from years 1189 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 2: of us knowing Claire, and I like, you know, I 1190 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 2: didn't like how that whole thing went down, and so 1191 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 2: in my mind, I'm kind of like, what's up with 1192 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: this dude? 1193 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 3: You know? 1194 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 2: And I thought in that moment, I was kind of like, wow, 1195 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 2: that's that's okay, good for you. You did the right thing. 1196 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 2: You know, in my mind, I guess whatever the right 1197 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 2: thing is, and who knows what that means. 1198 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he just he's following his heart. Yeah, 1199 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 4: he's following his heart. He's like, okay, well that kind 1200 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 4: of gave me a sense of who I should pick, 1201 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 4: and so Dale picks Kat and then we've. 1202 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 3: Gone to Jeremy. 1203 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: Is next Jeremy. 1204 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 3: Jimmy's between Bayle and Susie, right, He's. 1205 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 4: On the fence, but he goes after well he chose 1206 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 4: he chose Bailey, And I was thinking, actually, never mind, 1207 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 4: Jeremy chose Bailey. So we've got Jeremy and Bailey and Susie. 1208 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 4: At this point, you're thinking, okay, well is Susie going 1209 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 4: to go home. 1210 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 1: Is nobody going to swipe her up? Because she is 1211 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 1: a freaking cash I love Susie. 1212 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 3: So anyway, So Brian's up next. 1213 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got Brian and he gives his rose to Parsa. 1214 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: There's no shock there, not a. 1215 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 2: Shock at all. Spencer's not happy about it, though. Spencer's 1216 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 2: thinks he's done Zoe dirty. So he Yeah, Johnathy comes up. 1217 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,959 Speaker 2: It's between Alex and Jill. He goes with Alex, which 1218 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 2: also not a shock. Right, and last, but not least, 1219 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 2: it's Justin's turn to get up. And this is the 1220 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 2: moment we've all been waiting for friends. He gets up there, 1221 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 2: he's standing there. I gotta be honest with you, I 1222 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 2: was I need to know how you were feeling about this. 1223 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, there's no way 1224 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 2: that he's gonna choose Susie. There's just no way he's 1225 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 2: gonna He's gonna know that it's time to move on, 1226 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 2: you know. But then, but knowing him and knowing how 1227 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: sensitive of a guy he is, just from the interviews 1228 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 2: I've done with him in the past, I wasn't shocked 1229 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,440 Speaker 2: in this moment. 1230 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, he did he did it. 1231 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: I knew he was going to choose Susie. I don't know. 1232 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 4: I just had this feeling that he was going to 1233 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 4: choose Susie. And they touched on it in a couple 1234 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 4: of different conversations where they talked about, you know, they 1235 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 4: were sitting on his couch and telling each other that 1236 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 4: they were always going to take care of each other 1237 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 4: and always look out for each other. 1238 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: And I think it was like a pinky promise or something. 1239 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 4: And yeah, he's like a man of his word, and 1240 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 4: I could see that coming. 1241 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know for sure, but I. 1242 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 4: Was like, I have a really good feeling that he 1243 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 4: is going to pick Susie, and I part of me 1244 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 4: is still shocked that. So what happened is, you know, 1245 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 4: he says to Susie, will you know? 1246 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: Will you accept this rose? And she's like, wait, what 1247 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 1: are you doing? Why are you doing this? And she's 1248 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,439 Speaker 1: starting to cry. She's like, no, what are you doing? 1249 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 4: You need to stop, No, stop, don't do this, you know, 1250 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 4: and she says, I'm really sorry, that's a really really 1251 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,760 Speaker 4: sweet thing, but I can't let you do this. I 1252 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 4: can't accept your rose. And she goes back to where 1253 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 4: she was standing before. And then it is silence, and 1254 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 4: Susie's looking at Lexie because she's standing right next to her, 1255 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 4: and she's like, are you okay? Like I'm so sorry, 1256 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 4: Like she's apologizing to her. 1257 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 2: She goes, he only he only did that, so he 1258 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 2: wants to keep me here. It's almost like she was like, 1259 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 2: trust me, he's not still into me. It was like 1260 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 2: it was almost like she was fatally he's not doing 1261 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 2: the right thing. He's not you know, and they're all 1262 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 2: holding yeah. 1263 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 3: Right, I know. 1264 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 4: It was such a sweet moment between them, and then 1265 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 4: there's silence, and at this point I was like, is 1266 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 4: Jesse not even in the room, because why isn't he 1267 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 4: saying anything? 1268 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 3: There's the club Sandwich. Well he's like this is amazing. 1269 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I know they're in his ears saying don't 1270 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 4: you dare say anything? And then Justin walks away. And 1271 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 4: after he walks away, Susie's like, I need to go 1272 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 4: talk to him. Where did he go? And so and 1273 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 4: then and then the episode ends, so we are left 1274 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 4: not knowing if Susie is going to stay because Justin 1275 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 4: gave her or asked her if she wanted his rose 1276 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 4: and then we don't know if she says no, is 1277 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 4: he going to have the opportunity to give it to 1278 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 4: somebody else? Like, is he going to have the opportunity 1279 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 4: to go back and say, actually, Lexi, I would love 1280 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 4: for you to have this rose because you didn't accept it, 1281 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 4: and I was you take it? I know, I know, 1282 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 4: of course, No, I don't. 1283 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 2: Know how about you you as a woman, a very 1284 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 2: strong and confident woman. I mean, you're not used to 1285 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 2: being in second place to anybody either, unlike any of 1286 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 2: these girls in there. You if a guy tries to 1287 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 2: give a rose to his ex in order to give 1288 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 2: her an opportunity to stay, yeah, is it possible that 1289 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 2: you get past their prior relationship drama? And when he 1290 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 2: comes back, he's like, LEXI, I really want to give 1291 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 2: this to you. I hope you can forgive everything that 1292 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 2: went on here. Would you take it or what would 1293 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 2: you say? You'd be like, no, thanks, I'm good. 1294 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't be rude about it. 1295 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: I would just say I think what you're doing is 1296 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,479 Speaker 1: very very sweet, but I don't think that this rose 1297 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,240 Speaker 1: is meant for me, And I'm just I'm going to 1298 01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: go home. You know, like I wouldn't. 1299 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 4: I think that I can't see Lexi taking a rose 1300 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,440 Speaker 4: after Susie. 1301 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Said said no to it. 1302 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 4: I mean maybe someone who's not connected, like the four 1303 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 4: girls who didn't get roses were Ali, Joe, Zoe, Jill, 1304 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 4: and Lexi. So I don't know, maybe like Zoe or Ali, 1305 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 4: Joe or Jill would be like, I'll take it, you. 1306 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: Know, I'll stay. 1307 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 3: You know, Elie Joe would take it for sure. I'm well, I. 1308 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 4: Mean because the fact of the matter is there will 1309 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 4: be other men coming onto the beach, so there will 1310 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 4: be other opportunities to connect with people. So like I get, 1311 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 4: I get why Justin did it, because maybe he didn't 1312 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 4: see like a complete future with Lexi. But I also 1313 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 4: feel like, you know, that was his Like I also 1314 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 4: felt like when he gave when he called Susie's name, 1315 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, he's gonna ask Susie if she wants accept 1316 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 4: his rose, and then I could see him saying, I 1317 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 4: want you to stay. 1318 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to go home. 1319 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I think will happen, right, 1320 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,880 Speaker 2: because we obviously. 1321 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 3: Don't know it's a cliffhanger. We don't know what's going 1322 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:12,600 Speaker 3: to happen. 1323 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 2: I think I think that is what is going to happen, 1324 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 2: is he And you know what, sometimes like I'll say this, 1325 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 2: like there's been times when I would rather myself get 1326 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,440 Speaker 2: hurt than someone else get hurt, or I'd rather just 1327 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 2: take take the brunt of it and let someone else 1328 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 2: go on and have an opportunity for something that maybe 1329 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 2: I didn't. I know that I've done that before, and 1330 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 2: I could see that being what Justin's thought process was 1331 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 2: here because I don't think he did it seeing a 1332 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 2: future with Susie. 1333 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 3: I think he did it. No, No, you eve, he 1334 01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 3: had a chance to stay and meet someone new. 1335 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 4: You know, totally agree. That was totally my mindset too. 1336 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 4: We will see what happens in episode three, and that 1337 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 4: is tonight, so make sure you're watching. 1338 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,959 Speaker 1: But also I loved the like. 1339 01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 4: What's happening in the preview for the next Episode's come 1340 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 4: in and Leslie's like the party has arrived or something 1341 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 4: like that. 1342 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,760 Speaker 1: I was like, Yes, I cannot wait. 1343 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 4: I cannot wait to see them in the mix and 1344 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 4: how all of it like. 1345 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 2: You and I just love the Goldens so much and 1346 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 2: I'm so excited because you know, it's also one of 1347 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 2: those things you're finally going to have. I mean, you know, 1348 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm sure, I am sure there's going to be some 1349 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 2: awkward moments of stuff that I was all concerned about, 1350 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 2: but I'm also sure that there's going to be some 1351 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,959 Speaker 2: pretty tender moments too. Like, you know, I'm just thinking 1352 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 2: of a couple of the guys that are going to 1353 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 2: be there, who are such good dudes, and it's like 1354 01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 2: I can just see them being like the voice of 1355 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 2: reason and like, hey, you know what, honey, you're you're 1356 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 2: too good for that guy, like. 1357 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 3: Just let it go, you know, or whatever. 1358 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 2: Totally, yeah, sometimes people need a little bit of guidance, 1359 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 2: and I feel like if nothing else, Golden will bring us, 1360 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 2: the Goldens will bring us that, right, I mean. 1361 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 3: And maybe they'll have some romance going too. 1362 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a couple guys there that 1363 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 2: I could very much see, you know, finding love with 1364 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 2: some of the Goldens that I've seen that they're putting 1365 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 2: on the show. And it'll be really interesting to see 1366 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 2: how those chemistry tests go as well, you know, if 1367 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,720 Speaker 2: they're going to have the same type of chemistry tests 1368 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:13,000 Speaker 2: or not. 1369 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I can't wait. 1370 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 4: I cannot wait, okay, well we got to rap, guys. 1371 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 4: But thank you so much for listening to this episode 1372 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 4: of Almost Famous with Trista and Bob, and make sure 1373 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 4: you're tuning into Bachelor and Paradise