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Speaker 2: We are going to talk with Andy Field from ABC News.

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Speaker 2: The Boweling plane that Alaska Airlines had, and this is

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Speaker 2: the one that the door plug blew out. It's a

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Speaker 2: plug to cover up a place where a door could be.

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Speaker 2: But America Laska Airlines doesn't configure this particular plane that way.

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Speaker 2: They don't need it, so they install a plug. It's

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Speaker 2: supposed to be bolted on and it blew out, big

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Speaker 2: pressure change. And now they're finding out other planes in

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Speaker 2: the Alaska air Fleet and the United Fleet maybe the

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Speaker 2: bolts weren't tight enough in these door plugs. Let's get

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Speaker 2: Andy on because the National Transportation Safety Board is doing

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Speaker 2: an investigation. Andy, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good.

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Speaker 4: This is a heck of an advertisement.

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Speaker 3: For taking the bus.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's and this is disturbing. Although the White House

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Speaker 4: this afternoon said, well, look, Americans should feel safe because

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Speaker 4: they're looking into this problem, the fact is is that

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Speaker 4: they didn't look into the problem before it happened. And

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Speaker 4: there's a whole lot of courses, not just in terms

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Speaker 4: of the companies that made this stuff, but how did

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Speaker 4: these things pass inspections. There's a whole lot more to

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Speaker 4: this than just the company forgot to screwing a couple

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Speaker 4: of bolts, or Boeing didn't bother to double check it,

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Speaker 4: or the airlines didn't bother to do any safety checks.

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Speaker 4: There's just the FA inspectors along every step of the

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Speaker 4: way here to make sure that these things are being

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Speaker 4: done properly. I know that there have been budget touch

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Speaker 4: backs over the years, and that what we think is happening,

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Speaker 4: not just with FA inspectors, but with food inspections and

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Speaker 4: everything else. Often doesn't happen because they just don't have

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Speaker 4: the people to do it. So I think this is

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Speaker 4: going to be a much wider investigation than just who

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Speaker 4: messed up and not making sure those bolts were secured.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it seems bolt tightening is basic. You know,

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Speaker 2: obviously it goes one way and it gets tighter, right,

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Speaker 2: But it's one of the first things you think an

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Speaker 2: all the other fastening fastening materials are they Are they

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Speaker 2: all connected properly? Is everything tight?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Before you get into whether the software is working and

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Speaker 2: the computers are working, It's like, all right, is the

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Speaker 2: is the actual structure of the plane intact?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Then, and this is look. Boeing has a tremendous pr problem.

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Speaker 4: On its hand, it only has one major competitor, and

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Speaker 4: that's air Bus, and there are many airlines because of

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Speaker 4: the seven thirty seven MAX problems that happened before these

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Speaker 4: these horrifically tragic crashes. Because when they designed the Max,

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Speaker 4: they changed the way the wings and the and the

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Speaker 4: the engines were attached, had some software fix that was

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Speaker 4: supposed to compensate for that, but many of the pilots

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Speaker 4: never got training to either know about that, and in

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Speaker 4: that case, the two pilots were fighting a system they

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Speaker 4: didn't know they had to fight or how to compensate

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Speaker 4: for it. That took the plane offline for almost three years.

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Speaker 3: It's back in business.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people have forgotten about those tragic accidents

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Speaker 4: and didn't think much about flying these new planes. And

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Speaker 4: now we have this issue. And as you mentioned, I

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Speaker 4: think United and Alaska have found other loose hardware. United

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Speaker 3: So this is a.

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Speaker 4: Pandemic problem in all of these planes, and there are

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Speaker 4: several hundred of them out there that are now grounded.

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Speaker 4: And of course Alaska and United I think, are the

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Speaker 4: only ones that fly this particular model, and their passengers

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Speaker 2: Is each entity in the chain here supposed to do

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Speaker 2: inspections bowing Alaska or United and the Cederal government as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean I know the airlines are supposed to do routine.

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Speaker 4: Maintenance and inspections at various certain hours on the airframe.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what exactly the requirements are, but when

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Speaker 3: By the FAA that they can.

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Speaker 4: Fly properly, that they can pressurize properly, that the flaps work,

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Speaker 4: the engines work, the avionics work. All of the things

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Speaker 4: be certified. The airframe is one of them, to make

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Speaker 4: sure that what it's pressurized. Now, what's interesting is that

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Speaker 4: this particular airplane wasn't allowed to fly long distances over

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Speaker 4: water because it had had a number of pressurization issues,

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Speaker 4: but they couldn't trace where it was coming from. It

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Speaker 4: may indeed have been coming from the fact that there

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Speaker 4: was something wrong with that door plug and that's why

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Speaker 4: it wasn't pressurizing properly and then finally gave away.

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Speaker 2: And is that upsetting anybody either at the SAA and

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Speaker 2: the NTSB, all these I mean, I mean.

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Speaker 3: People, they're on fire.

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Speaker 2: That a last Airlines actually actually issued a restriction on

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Speaker 2: these very same planes because of what may turn out

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Speaker 2: to be the very same problem, but they didn't ground

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Speaker 2: the planes. They didn't ground the planes and then start.

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Speaker 4: Looking there for there's there's a whole lot of police

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Speaker 4: that don't seem to be on the bead at the

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Speaker 4: big part of this investigation.

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Speaker 2: Are these are so the bolts going to be tightened

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Speaker 2: and these planes sent up for normal flights soon?

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Speaker 4: Or is this that they're not going to re certify

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Speaker 4: these planes for safety until they can absolutely guarantee that

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Speaker 4: these things are going to.

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Speaker 1: Pop off again, right so, and and nobody else.

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Speaker 3: That's just you know, put stronger seatbelts in there.

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Speaker 2: And enjoy the w Yeah, and hold on to your

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Speaker 2: kids a little tighter too. What are the odds that

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Speaker 2: there was I heard there were only six empty seats

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Speaker 2: What are the odds that two of the six was

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Speaker 2: blown out door.

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Speaker 4: Well, whatever they were, it was pretty fortunate because there

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Speaker 4: are other aviation experts that we've spoken with who say

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Speaker 4: that if this was a much higher altitude and the

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Speaker 4: plane was pressurized even greater than one of sixteen thousand

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Speaker 4: are what is the mountain range.

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Speaker 3: To the east of you? How high does that go? Up?

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Speaker 4: Ten thousand feet at least? Yeah, so it's only six

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Speaker 4: thousand feet higher than that. You can breathe at ten

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Speaker 4: thousand feet. It gets tougher at six thousand feet sixteen

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Speaker 4: thousand feet, but anything higher than that and you've got

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Speaker 4: a lot of pressure pushing from the outside inside of

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Speaker 4: the plane out and if there's structural damage, it's going

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Speaker 4: to suck a whole lot of things out of that plane,

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Speaker 4: including people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you're standing up, you're walking around and

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Speaker 2: I belted in.

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Speaker 4: But you know, there have been instances where this type

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Speaker 4: of thing has happened. We're structural damages, and then it's

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Speaker 4: not just taking the people out, it's taken the whole

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Could something like that cause a plane to burst apart?

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Speaker 4: You know, you know, I don't know the structure of

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Speaker 4: if part of it breaks, the rest of it's still

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Speaker 3: But you know, there was there was a dramatic flight

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Speaker 4: Hawaiian Airlines where the top of the plane ripped off

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Speaker 4: and you saw it with landing and there were people

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Speaker 4: still sitting their seats, you know, just completely shell shock

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Speaker 4: and there were people sucked out of that as well,

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Speaker 4: but the plane stayed in text.

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Speaker 2: All right, Andy, thanks for coming on. All right, guys,

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Speaker 2: thanks Andy Field from ABC News. It's just that planes

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Speaker 2: they have to be built to withstand all kinds of

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Speaker 2: severe shocks and severe weather. And for this thing to

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Speaker 2: be almost taken down by loose bolts. Loose bolts what

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Speaker 2: a screwdriver or wrench?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 5: How much are those mechanics getting paid for doing stuff

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Are these the people showing up Stone

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Speaker 6: They all need raises so we can be safer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they want?

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Speaker 6: We give them whatever they want?

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Speaker 2: I mean the cost of flying is really high now

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Speaker 2: or I'm not going to notice an extra ten dollars exactly,

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Speaker 2: that's what they want. I just don't understand as something

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Speaker 2: but it must have must be something with the manufacturing process.

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Speaker 2: And definitely three sets of inspectors missed this too. I

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Speaker 2: don't get this. I don't get any of this. When

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Speaker 2: we come back. The door plug itself was discovered by

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Speaker 2: a teacher, and I'm going to tell you his story.

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Speaker 2: It fell near his house and he went wandering around

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Speaker 2: the neighborhood, flashed his flashlight and found the door plug

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Speaker 2: fell into some nearby trees. It's coming up on the

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Speaker 2: So when the door plug blew out of the plane,

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Speaker 2: where did it go? You know, they were out over

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Speaker 2: the water. I thought why when the plug blew out,

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Speaker 2: But based on you know, the wind and the plane's velocity,

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Speaker 2: they actually had a pretty good idea the area would

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Speaker 2: land and Bob sour found it. Bob Souer is a

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Speaker 2: teacher at Catlin Gable School. He's sixty four years old,

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Speaker 2: a science teacher. He actually teaches physics, among other things,

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Speaker 2: and he had heard that the blown out door might

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Speaker 2: this was Sunday night because his ex wife had called him.

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Speaker 2: She had heard that authorities thought the door might have

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Speaker 2: landed in the area. Now he didn't think it was likely,

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Speaker 2: but he got out of his flashlight and he started pointing.

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Speaker 2: He had some trees that he and his kids had

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Speaker 2: planted about twenty years ago, and noticed a white object

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Speaker 2: and it was the missing piece from the plane. It

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Speaker 2: was definitely an airplane. Party said. It had the same

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Speaker 2: into the ground very hard because I guess the tree

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Speaker 2: probably softened. The blow, did not hit anybody, did not

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Speaker 2: you hear about the microplastics and water bottles?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I Did you drink out a water bottle?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I do?

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Speaker 2: All right, You're gonna be shocked at this. Average water

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Speaker 2: bottle is one leader. You know how many little, tiny,

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Speaker 2: Two hundred and forty thousand, that's the average, less than

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Speaker 2: Does that seem right? Well, in any event, there's two

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Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand little microscopic particles of plastic. And

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Speaker 2: it's also in all our food, including all vegan foods.

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Speaker 6: You just added that.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I didn't. It's a separate article in

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Speaker 2: the New York Post. I mean, had I not seen it,

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Speaker 2: I would have made it up. But they find that

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Speaker 2: nearly ninety percent of food contained microproplastics, especially protein chicken, beef, seafood, pork,

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Speaker 2: tofu of those plant based alternatives. They purchased all the

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Speaker 2: products from two supermarkets and a grocery store in Portland, Oregon.

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Speaker 2: This was from the University of Toronto. They found eighty

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Speaker 2: eight percent of the samples contained plastic particles. So, no

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Speaker 2: matter what your diet, you're drinking and eating little bits

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Speaker 2: of plastic by the hundreds of thousands every day.

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Speaker 6: So is it coming out in our poop and our peak.

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Speaker 2: Well, they say it's in our brains, it's in our bloodstreams,

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Speaker 2: and it can penetrate what they call the blood brain barrier.

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Speaker 2: So like you are slowly turning into plastic.

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Speaker 5: Well hopefully it'll you know, I have a few years left,

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Speaker 5: and you know it's.

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Speaker 1: Just a few No, one day, you're just gonna go rigid.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but if I'm elderly and it's my time, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that'll be okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you might. You might last longer if you turn

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Speaker 2: to plastic. Maybe, Yeah, you're not going to decay as quickly.

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Speaker 6: It's true.

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Speaker 2: Previous research says humans consume a credit card's worth of

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Speaker 2: plastic every week on average. My god, does that seem

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Speaker 2: right though?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, given all the different diseases that we

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Speaker 5: really don't I don't know how we contract.

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Speaker 2: Maybe forty four percent of the microplastics were fibers, thirty

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Speaker 2: percent were fragments, and whether land based or ocean based

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Speaker 2: products like seafood, there's plastics in the ocean. Land there's plastics,

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Speaker 2: you know, when the cow grazes, right, the plants that

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Speaker 2: you use for those fake vegan foods. The yearly adult

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Speaker 2: exposure to microplastics on average, you consume anywhere between like

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Speaker 2: ten and thirty thousand microplastics.

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Speaker 6: So what are we gonna do about it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It looks like the plasta. Don't

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Speaker 2: drink water, it's not just water, don't eat food. It says,

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna die. See, they because they break down.

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Speaker 2: It's broken into nanoplastics. These are much smaller than microplastics,

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Speaker 2: so they easily enter the bloodstream and into organs. See now,

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Speaker 2: if it was that bad, then we would have all

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Speaker 2: seized up and.

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Speaker 6: Dived, right, you think, right?

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Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't take much plaque in your heart

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Speaker 2: arteries to cause a heart attack.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm wondering if we're expelling these nanoplastics.

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Speaker 1: I gotta think so that most of this.

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Speaker 6: Because if not, then how do we live to eighty

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Speaker 6: ninety one hundred?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean that should block up your digestive tract too,

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Speaker 2: and our brains and our brains. Right, if I got

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Speaker 2: a credit cards worth a plastic in my brain, that

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Speaker 2: would have said, you know what, I don't believe this.

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Speaker 2: You think it's fake, not fake, but wildly exaggerated. First

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Speaker 2: of all, I don't know how they'd know if there's

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Speaker 2: twenty five thousand nanoplastics in my water bottle, nor they

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Speaker 2: know whether they're just passing through. Maybe I'm peeing out

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Speaker 2: twenty five thousands.

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Speaker 6: That's my point. And if we're peeing and pooping it out,

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Speaker 6: then who.

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Speaker 1: Cares they're using words like contamination.

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Speaker 2: But people really do live longer than ever before, and

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Speaker 2: so don't I don't get it. I mean, see, I

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Speaker 2: read too much because it's you know, partly because it's

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Speaker 2: a job, and partly because they just read too much.

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Speaker 2: And I can't tell you it's probably a dozen stories

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Speaker 2: a day I read about if you ingest this food

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Speaker 2: or that food, you have this habit or that habit,

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Speaker 2: that it takes X amount of days, months, years off

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Speaker 2: your life. And I'm thinking, well, I should be gone

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Speaker 2: by now. In fact, all of us ought to be

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Speaker 2: gone by now.

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Speaker 6: Well not me.

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Speaker 2: Well no, because you eat, you know, you just go

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Speaker 2: out and graze every day. You have your plate of dandelions,

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Speaker 2: you know what.

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Speaker 5: This is the way I look at things. You know,

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Speaker 5: we do the best we can. And that's it, right.

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Speaker 1: You can't control the world.

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Speaker 5: You can't, or else we just can't get out of

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Speaker 5: bed in the morning. I worry enough about earthquakes and

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Speaker 5: plane and door plugs, right exactly. I can't worry about nanoplastics.

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Speaker 1: Now, some yo yo doesn't bolt right the door on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna get up and work, Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: I have a bottle of order here, right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: have thousands of microplastics in this bottle of water.

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Speaker 1: Me too, Yeah, look at this. So okay, well, and we're.

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Speaker 2: Both healthy, hopefully physically at least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 6: Speak for yourself physically.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine. Mentally, I'm on the edge. Debor Mark Live

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