WEBVTT - SPECIAL COVERAGE: Super Tuesday Reaction

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<v Speaker 1>As part of our special coverage on this Super Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>we turned out of Jim Gilmore, the former chair of

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican National Committee, former governor of Virginia. It's good

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<v Speaker 1>to see you, sir, Welcome back to Bloomberg. You were

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<v Speaker 1>recently calling for unity in the party following a string

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<v Speaker 1>of early victories for Donald Trump. That has been affirmed

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<v Speaker 1>repeatedly with more than ten victories tonight in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>the former president. Is it time for Nicki Haley to

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<v Speaker 1>drop out?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes it is. It's a little late for her

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<v Speaker 2>to be dropping out. To say the truth, I gathered

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<v Speaker 2>together about twelve leading conservatives in the country and said

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<v Speaker 2>Nikki a letter in the early part of February, right

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<v Speaker 2>after the sith Carolina primary, and said, look, you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>win your home state, You've lost all the primaries up

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<v Speaker 2>to this point, all the caucuses. Get out and support

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<v Speaker 2>the president, and lets you unify the party and get

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<v Speaker 2>about the serious business of defeating President Biden. That has

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<v Speaker 2>to be our goal now of the entire Repobel Party.

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<v Speaker 2>And by staying in and just attacking Trump the way

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<v Speaker 2>she has personally, I think that she's probably missed her

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<v Speaker 2>vest opportunity to get out. But still she still should

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<v Speaker 2>and we should unify the party. It's a serious business.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, sir, you speak of unifying the Republican Party. Certainly

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<v Speaker 3>you use that language and that letter addressed to Miss Haley.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet when you look at the vote tallies coming in, granted,

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<v Speaker 3>the votes have not been complete across any of these

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<v Speaker 3>Super Tuesday states, but she currently has forty seven percent

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<v Speaker 3>in Vermont. In Virginia, where you served as governor, thirty

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<v Speaker 3>four point six percent. Yes, the state was called for Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>but she is pulling in a relatively significant share of voters.

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<v Speaker 3>Cand a Republican party that divided actually be unified in

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<v Speaker 3>time for a general election in November.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think the party can unify in time for

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<v Speaker 2>a general election. They look, these are landslide numbers. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest with each other here, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a really landslide election that we're seeing tonight. And frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a landslide up to this point the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Virginia. You know, there are a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>different kinds of attitudes and the people in Virginia. I've

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<v Speaker 2>served as governor of the state. But Trump is carrying

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<v Speaker 2>the state tonight two to one, almost two to one,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's dramatic. And then many of the other states

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<v Speaker 2>are sometimes three and four to run to one. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a landslide primary victory tonight. So the point is this,

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<v Speaker 2>this is an opportunity for Nikki Helly to get out

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<v Speaker 2>and say, look, the time has come for us to

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<v Speaker 2>unify the people who have been supporting me. That's an

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<v Speaker 2>honest thing to do. Everybody that runs in an election

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<v Speaker 2>is going to get vote. The time has come to

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<v Speaker 2>really get out there and talk about the serious business

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<v Speaker 2>of changing the country, of really addressing the issue on

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<v Speaker 2>the border, of really addressing crime in the streets, of

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<v Speaker 2>really addressing this problem of inflation which President Biden created.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's face it, at the beginning of his administration. He

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<v Speaker 2>created this inflation. He did it deliberately. But the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is that working men and women discovery of suffering because

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<v Speaker 2>of this is costing so much money now just to

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<v Speaker 2>have the necessities of life. There's a president amath of COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>Governor. We don't really have a way to confirm me

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally caused inflation here at Bloomberg, but I most recently

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<v Speaker 1>you were with us to talk about your passion to

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<v Speaker 1>fund our ally in Ukraine at war right now with Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>If Donald Trump is the next president, A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks think that money might not be coming. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a worry of yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me say this. You know and everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>knows that I am a strong supporter of Ukraine. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe the Russian aggression is a serious global issue and

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<v Speaker 2>has to be addressed. But when I was ambassador to

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<v Speaker 2>Ossee and Vienna on behalf of the United States, that

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<v Speaker 2>was the time when President Trump actually gave Javelin weapons

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<v Speaker 2>to the Ukrainians so that they could resist the Russian onslaught.

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<v Speaker 2>He never really told me or anybody around me to

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<v Speaker 2>back up from the Russians. We were taking a very

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<v Speaker 2>strong message there. The point is that I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>the track record for President Trump has been strong on

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<v Speaker 2>foreign policy, and certainly if I'm in a position to

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<v Speaker 2>advise him, I would advise him of the importance of

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<v Speaker 2>the Ukrainian support.

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<v Speaker 3>Sir, are you hoping you would be in a position

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<v Speaker 3>to advise him in a second administration? Would you seek

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<v Speaker 3>a job?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'd seek to have an opportunity to to offer

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<v Speaker 2>him the best counsel that I can s up to

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<v Speaker 2>the President as to what he wants to do. But I,

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<v Speaker 2>on my part, feel strongly about this issue and about

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<v Speaker 2>the other issues as well. And you know, once again

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<v Speaker 2>I've beg to differ with you on inflation. I observed

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<v Speaker 2>all those big, big spending programs to President Biden was

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<v Speaker 2>putting in place at the beginning of the administration, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew, just like you did, that it was inevitably

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<v Speaker 2>going to cause inflation, and we got inflation. The interesting

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<v Speaker 2>question is the impact that it has on working men

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<v Speaker 2>and women. This is now a populist campaign, which really

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<v Speaker 2>means that he's concerned about people living paycheck to paycheck,

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<v Speaker 2>people who are trying to makegainst me trying to pay tuitions,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to pay gas, trying to pay groceries. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a campaign, and a candidate addresses and speaks to those issues.

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<v Speaker 4>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim Gilmore, former chairman of the Republican National Committee, former

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<v Speaker 3>governor of Virginia, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now is Selinda Lake, the president of Lake

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<v Speaker 1>Research Partners, for her take on what we've learned this evening.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to see you on Super Tuesday. Thanks, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Here is the story tonight that the pollsters

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<v Speaker 1>were right. Ah, I'd love that to be the story.

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<v Speaker 5>We're never no one ever says that I'm coming back

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<v Speaker 5>every night. But you guys, no, I think the story

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<v Speaker 5>is the same story it was like six months ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Biden is going to be the nominee of the

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats and Donald Trump is going to be the nominee

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<v Speaker 5>of the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>Fair enough, Okay, fair enough. And Nikki Hayley perhaps was

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<v Speaker 3>a factor only on the margins and may not be

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<v Speaker 3>a factor after this evening, depending on what decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>She We hope she stays in.

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<v Speaker 3>How likely is that though? In your mind?

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<v Speaker 5>I think it depends on her own owners, And I

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<v Speaker 5>think I would assume that there's an awful lot of

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<v Speaker 5>pressure for her to get out if she doesn't win

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<v Speaker 5>anything tonight. But you know, it depends on her donors.

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<v Speaker 5>That's when candidates get out, when they run out of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, there's a special group out there, seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>percent who dislike both candidates. I'm to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised on some days that number is so small

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<v Speaker 1>considering the conversation we're having in America right now about

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<v Speaker 1>age about divisiveness. What did they do stay home?

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<v Speaker 5>It's a really great question, and in some of the

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<v Speaker 5>polls it's a size twenty twenty one percent. It's record

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<v Speaker 5>high number for this early in the game. By the

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<v Speaker 5>end of the campaign, there's often a number of voters,

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<v Speaker 5>but this is a record high number this or like

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<v Speaker 5>many of them are contemplating third party and when you

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<v Speaker 5>push them, they'd really like a different set of choices.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you push them right now, they go for

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<v Speaker 5>Joe Biden, and they have pretty consistently. That's good news

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<v Speaker 5>for us because in twenty sixteen they search for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a very different election time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so when we're looking at some of the figures

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<v Speaker 3>in these Republican primary states in which Nicki Haley, while yes,

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<v Speaker 3>is losing to Donald Trump, she's pulling pretty consistently right now,

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<v Speaker 3>knowing the full figures aren't in twenty to thirty percent,

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<v Speaker 3>how many Nicki Haley voters could become Joe Biden voters?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there an overlap in the ven diagram of those

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<v Speaker 3>double haters and the people who are voting for Nicki Haey?

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<v Speaker 5>Is an overlap but it's hard because they hate Joe

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<v Speaker 5>Blacking so much, so I think it's more Liza. They'd

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<v Speaker 5>be third party. There's also a lot of voters considering

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<v Speaker 5>skipping the race, not skipping voting, but skipping the race,

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<v Speaker 5>so down.

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<v Speaker 1>The ballot just yeah, top, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's interesting because we've only had like three percent

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<v Speaker 5>of the voters that do that normally, and usually the

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<v Speaker 5>presidential brings people in, but now that presidential is discouraging people.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that? So tell us about the sample. We

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<v Speaker 1>keep hearing the samples broken, people light upholster, They don't

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<v Speaker 1>answer their damn phone anymore. You have to get them online.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you get an accurate number in this world?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's really hard. And can you tell all your

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<v Speaker 5>viewers to please pick up the phone yourself. If it

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<v Speaker 5>says Lake Research Polls.

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<v Speaker 2>Please take it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, But you call them back time and time again.

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<v Speaker 5>You offer them multiple ways to respond online, telephone, text,

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<v Speaker 5>and you also you try to like we introduce ourselves

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<v Speaker 5>by saying we're not selling anything. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>ask you for a contribution.

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<v Speaker 3>Because people like.

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<v Speaker 5>To give their opinions, but they just don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>be hammered to change your utilities.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first word out of your mouth. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>selling you anything, and I am not a liar yet

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<v Speaker 1>from this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is how the sausage is made. The sausage

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<v Speaker 3>being political polls in the United States you mentioned a

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<v Speaker 3>few times now though, So Linda, this idea of people

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<v Speaker 3>maybe going to a third party. You don't like this

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<v Speaker 3>general election matchup between Democrats and Republicans. You look for

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<v Speaker 3>option see whatever option see is Utah just closed at

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<v Speaker 3>the top of this hour at ten pm Eastern. RFK

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<v Speaker 3>Junior was on the ballot in Utah. He's struggled to

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<v Speaker 3>get on other ballots, though. How real of a factor

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<v Speaker 3>is he in this in this contest?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the interesting thing is, first of all, he's not

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<v Speaker 5>on the ballot in very many places, but he is

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<v Speaker 5>on the ballot in a cup of swing states. It's

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<v Speaker 5>also RFK is being misunderstood for his father. You probably

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<v Speaker 5>saw the poll by Echelon where half of the voters

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<v Speaker 5>identified his father's picture for him. And what's interesting is

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<v Speaker 5>if you get to know him, you don't like him,

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<v Speaker 5>but that name is very formidable on the Democratic side,

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<v Speaker 5>and all of the third parties pull from the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 5>That pulls from Joe Biden. And this is the important

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<v Speaker 5>piece that third parties can't win, but they can't be

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<v Speaker 5>spoilers and they can elect Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be like Democrats need to run a

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<v Speaker 1>clarifying campaign on this. I'm being serious, This isn't your

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<v Speaker 1>father's Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they actually have in the Free Press, and people

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<v Speaker 5>are quite surprised when they hear that he's an anti vaxer,

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<v Speaker 5>when they hear that he has a mixed record on abortion,

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<v Speaker 5>They think of him as a Kennedy and environmentalist. So

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<v Speaker 5>what could be wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you bring up abortion. Of course, in the last

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<v Speaker 3>election cycle, mid term cycle in twenty twenty two, we

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<v Speaker 3>saw that issue as really being a turnout driver and

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<v Speaker 3>in fact a disruptor in the elections. Democrats performed significantly

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<v Speaker 3>better than was expected going in. Is that going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the same kind of force in twenty twenty four?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have the same galvanizing effect that much further

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<v Speaker 3>down the road from the Dobbs decision, the overturning of Rope.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this is the gift that keeps on giving. So

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<v Speaker 5>there were some voters who thought, well, they're done it's

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<v Speaker 5>over until the IVF decision and then the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 5>in Alabama, and then the Supreme Court decision that's coming

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<v Speaker 5>down about jailing providers in Idaho, and then the Supreme

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<v Speaker 5>Court decision that comes down about medication abortion nephipristone. And

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<v Speaker 5>what voters have concluded is they're not done yet. They

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<v Speaker 5>really mean it, they really want a national ban. And

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<v Speaker 5>there are a number of states that have initiatives on

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<v Speaker 5>the ballot and we haven't lost an initiative yet. We

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<v Speaker 5>saw the surgeon turn out in Ohio on campuses and

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<v Speaker 5>young people. So yes, this is a very key rategic

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<v Speaker 5>element of the twenty twenty four elections.

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<v Speaker 1>So often we have Slimda Lake at the table here

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<v Speaker 1>do a little quick math with us. Trump campaign says

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<v Speaker 1>he's presumptive nominee, likely by March nineteenth, maybe even the twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>after running the table like this tonight. Yeah, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>earlier date in your view.

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<v Speaker 5>I think so, And honestly, I think he's a nominee today.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he was a nominee last month. And Joe

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<v Speaker 5>Biden is our nominee in Kate there was any question

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<v Speaker 5>about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to follow up on your point though

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<v Speaker 3>about young voters. You mentioned how the abortion issue drives

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<v Speaker 3>them out, but we also saw in Michigan young voters

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<v Speaker 3>in the college towns yeah, ann Arbor and East Lansing,

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<v Speaker 3>more of them voting uncommitted because young people also have

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<v Speaker 3>a problem with the president's stance on Israel, given what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening to Palestinian life in Gaza. How concerned are you

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<v Speaker 3>about the uncommitted movement or more just what it means.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm very concerned about it. I'm very concerned about the

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<v Speaker 5>division among young voters because that was part of our

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<v Speaker 5>secret sauce, not just for this election, but for the

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<v Speaker 5>long term.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this.

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<v Speaker 5>They're not going to vote for Donald Trump. They might

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<v Speaker 5>vote for third party right, they could not show up,

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<v Speaker 5>they could skip to presidential, they could vote with third party.

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<v Speaker 5>The president and the vice president taken lots of actions

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<v Speaker 5>around abortion, around student loans. I hope and pray that

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<v Speaker 5>we have a ceasefire before Ramadan and all of those

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<v Speaker 5>will be important. But young voters are very divided, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's very very serious concern for our party.

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<v Speaker 1>We're waiting for results in Utah. Just to reset. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're joining us late here, as part of our special

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<v Speaker 1>coverage on Bloomberg TV and Radio. Donald Trump winning eleven

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<v Speaker 1>of fifteen states. It's been a sweep so far, Kayley.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you've got your eyes on Vermont here

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<v Speaker 1>and that could swing back into Nikki Haley's favorite here,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is pretty remarkable. Joe Biden now also winning

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic presidential primary in Utah, and we should have

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned if we didn't already, Minnesota came in for Joe Biden. Kayley.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be looking at the results a little more carefully.

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<v Speaker 1>To get back to what you were talking about him.

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<v Speaker 1>The series of uncommitted protest campaigns in states like Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>much like we saw in Michigan, give us a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of what to look for in the general.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or what to look forward to in the state

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<v Speaker 3>of the Union is Biden tries to message around those issues. So, Linda,

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<v Speaker 3>it's worth noting that Super Tuesday is today, forty eight

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<v Speaker 3>hours from now. Joe and I will still be here

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<v Speaker 3>in studio for another long day because the President will

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<v Speaker 3>be addressing the nation, perhaps the biggest speech he can

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<v Speaker 3>give in this election cycle, aside from the convention. What

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<v Speaker 3>is the number one thing he needs to message in

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<v Speaker 3>that speech.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there are three things that he needs to do. One,

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<v Speaker 5>he needs to set up the contrast, and he's really

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<v Speaker 5>fighting mad and prepared to do that. Number Two, he

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<v Speaker 5>needs to address the economy and inflation, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to hear him be very very aggressive about

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<v Speaker 5>price gouging and rising prices and the actions they're going

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<v Speaker 5>to take and they have taken. And then the third

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<v Speaker 5>thing is he has to paint the picture of what

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<v Speaker 5>four more years of Joe Biden will be and what

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<v Speaker 5>the hell that four more years of Donald Trump could be?

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, Slinda Lake, great to have you with us

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<v Speaker 3>at our DC studios this evening. Really appreciate you joining us,

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<v Speaker 3>Linda Lake, Lake Research Partners, President and polster. Now we

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<v Speaker 3>want to get some final thoughts from our political panel,

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Davis, partner at Stone Cord Capital, and Jeanie Shanzano,

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<v Speaker 3>political science professor at Iona Universities. We wrap up our

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<v Speaker 3>Super Tuesday programming here on Bloomberg Television and Radio. Genie,

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<v Speaker 3>first to you, what really did we learn tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>I think we learned that Joe Biden has a task

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<v Speaker 4>ahead of him with this unusual setup of Super Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 4>And then two days later the State of the Union.

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<v Speaker 1>And his task is big.

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<v Speaker 4>That maybe why he didn't come out tonight and speak publicly,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is to tell the American public not only

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<v Speaker 4>what he's done, but what he is going to do.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, he is facing really bad poll numbers

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<v Speaker 4>over the last weekend, so he's got his work cut

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<v Speaker 4>out for him. But he has the race that he wanted,

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<v Speaker 4>and so does Donald Trump. They both wanted to face

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<v Speaker 4>each other again, even if we don't want it. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what they want and they're going to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Eat to be the wet blanket here, but I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>glad to play that role. We said in New Hampshire

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<v Speaker 1>it was a late night there, Rick, we said this

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<v Speaker 1>would be the beginning of the general election. Here we

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<v Speaker 1>are saying it again. Did we just waste all that time? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not wasted.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it was interesting and we got to see

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit of fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no.

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<v Speaker 6>Question this was Donald Trump's night. Not only was it

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<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump's night because he collected the delegacy needs he'll

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<v Speaker 6>he'll finish it off next week. But the reality is

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<v Speaker 6>that they both of his opponents, Nicky Haley and Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Biden gave him the night. It was his night to

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<v Speaker 6>talk and nobody else did so. As Genie said, Biden's

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<v Speaker 6>got a job to do. On Thursday, that'll be his

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<v Speaker 6>night to talk and and that will signify the real

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<v Speaker 6>cutting of the ribbon and off to the general election.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the moment that voters are going to be

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<v Speaker 6>looking in to see what the candidates were saying. They'll

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<v Speaker 6>see Donald Trump in the news tomorrow the victor, and

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<v Speaker 6>they'll wait to see I guess from Joe Biden on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and of course we're can. Genie will be with

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<v Speaker 3>us on Thursday for that coverage of State of the

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<v Speaker 3>Use It Union, And come Thursday, we don't know whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not Nicki Haley will still be in this race.

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<v Speaker 3>We have about ninety seconds left with you two, if

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<v Speaker 3>you had to put odds by the next time we

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<v Speaker 3>see you on Thursday on State of the Union night

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<v Speaker 3>as to whether or not Nicki Haley will still be

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<v Speaker 3>in the running. Genie, would you take that?

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<v Speaker 1>But oh, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think, you know, I think it depends

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<v Speaker 4>on the donors. I mean, I think in this case,

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<v Speaker 4>you really do have to do what Bloomberg does best

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<v Speaker 4>follow the money, because she doesn't get out because she's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to win. She gets out because she can't.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't have the money to go forward. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's all up to her donors.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, yeah, I think that quiet is telling us

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<v Speaker 6>everything there's there's there'll be no more campaign that has

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<v Speaker 6>any legitimacy, And if she does, it's only a matter

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<v Speaker 6>of time before she gets out. And then the question

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<v Speaker 6>is does she endorse Donald Trump or not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's spoken from somebody who's been there and had those

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<v Speaker 1>hard conversations. Well, of course, keep you posted on whatever

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<v Speaker 1>we're hearing from Nicki Haley's campaigns to Rick Davis and

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<v Speaker 1>Geanie Shanzano. That does it for us here for now

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington,