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Speaker 2: We are your host. I am Alana Rizzo. That is

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Speaker 2: Clint to see us. Welcome to Monday Afternoon. We love

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Speaker 2: things A big show for you today. Former general manager

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Speaker 2: them about their new book, All about Dodgers Art. Before

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Speaker 2: we get into that, though, Clint, let's get right to

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Speaker 2: the greatest show man, shall we. Let's do it my

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Speaker 2: goodness show. Hey O, Tawny already surpassing the forty forty

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Speaker 4: What say you, We've seen this dude already go on

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Speaker 2: Se Yeah, it's very much a Hollywood ending, very fitting

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Speaker 3: This is not the Angels show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, And what a difference just going up the street

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Speaker 3: And you're right, you don't.

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Speaker 3: I love this so much.

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Speaker 2: This is something that I've been excited to talk to

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Speaker 1: Clint.

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Speaker 3: This is the all time.

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Speaker 2: Dodgers art book. It is available now. It is such

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Speaker 2: an unbelievably beautiful pictoral diary, if you will, of so

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Speaker 2: Dodgers general manager Ned Colletti, a text by him. The

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you, my friend, my Italian friend. How

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I ran into to Dave at the Sawdust Festival.

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Speaker 1: that was an idea that I had to bring people

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Speaker 4: I hope everiatt had a good weekend, Dave. I got

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Speaker 9: I always say it's like a dream job. It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: a struggle to get there, and so maybe they're a

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Speaker 1: little bit hotter than it. But the way they are comprised,

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Speaker 1: they're very patient. They can rest players throughout the season.

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Speaker 1: This year is a little bit different, which may be

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Speaker 1: good for them, but they just have too much depth

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Speaker 1: for everybody else, and they stay with it. They've got

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Speaker 1: a great manager who continues to manage a lot of talent.

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Speaker 1: It's not easy with talent to manage it on a

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Speaker 1: daily basis, but Dave has done a great job with that.

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Speaker 1: People can get out of them from time to time.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of human nature for that job. But they

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Speaker 1: are built for a long haul and people cannot.

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Speaker 8: Always keep that pace.

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Speaker 3: Dave, what's your favorite Dodgers team ever? And why?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Date myself? Which is fine. I don't care. I was

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Speaker 8: a junior in eighty eight, so there you go.

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Speaker 9: I'm sitting here right now at Legends Attic, which is

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Speaker 9: Oral Spot, and I work with Oral on a bunch

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Speaker 9: of other projects as well. So being able to like

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Speaker 9: go through eighty eight, as you know, high school junior

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Speaker 9: and then now, like I'm sitting here in his path

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Speaker 9: in Claremont, is unbelievable, so it would have to be

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Speaker 9: eighty eight, but twenty was unbelievable. It was scary because

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Speaker 9: I was doing the World Series, the official World Series

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Speaker 9: piece with fanatics, and they told me I could paint

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Speaker 9: both teams, so just you know, I'll have something to

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Speaker 9: sell either way it goes. And I'm like, nah, the

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Speaker 9: Dodgers are gonna take this. But it was to the

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Speaker 9: point where I wanted to do it well because they

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Speaker 9: wanted to release it right when they want. I wanted

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Speaker 9: it to go seven so I could work more on

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Speaker 9: this piece. But then I didn't want it because I

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Speaker 9: was so stressed out, you know about it.

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Speaker 8: So that was a good one too. So those are two.

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Speaker 8: Those are two.

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Speaker 9: So you're in junior high in nineteen eighty eight, No,

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Speaker 9: junior in high school, not exactly what.

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Speaker 1: It makes me feel a little bit better. I had

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Speaker 1: twenty five years of the game and I did.

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Speaker 8: I'm still old, but I'm not that bad.

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Speaker 1: So you're in high.

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Speaker 4: School and all of our backs are hurting as we're

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Speaker 4: sitting here, so we're feeling good game, and then we

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Speaker 4: just passed an important anniversary. I'm gonna call it an

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Speaker 4: important anniversary. Twelve years ago yesterday, you made your first

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Speaker 4: big trade under with some googen high money, bringing aboard

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Speaker 4: Adrian Gonzalez. We call it affectionately the nick Punto trade.

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Speaker 4: But you got Carl Crawford, Josh Beckett, who throws a

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Speaker 4: no hitter? How how like? How different was that putting

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Speaker 4: that trade together? And kind of what it launched for

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Speaker 4: this organization.

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Speaker 1: The two twelve season was so unique in so many ways.

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Speaker 1: Ownership changed on May first, and San Cassen came to

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Speaker 1: me and he says, anybody that you've been thinking about

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Speaker 1: that you couldn't afford to get or whatever reason that

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Speaker 1: held you back from getting it, getting that type of player,

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Speaker 1: you got to go for it. And so we had

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Speaker 1: watched Andrean Gonzalez, you know, hit balls out in Petco

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Speaker 1: Park and and you know, hit thirty five home runs

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Speaker 1: a year for San Diego. Our first baseman was not

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Speaker 1: that type of player. And I had talked to Ben

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Speaker 1: Cherrington back at the end of April, knowing ownership was changing,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he couldn't do it then, but as

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Speaker 1: time went on, they needed to make a move there

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Speaker 1: in Boston. So we just stayed on it, and that

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Speaker 1: changed the entire team. When you think and it's you know,

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Speaker 1: you look back at it, and you know you look

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Speaker 1: back at it almost at a glance. But remember where

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Speaker 1: we were. We were coming out of a different, a

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Speaker 1: difficult ownership situation. The fan base had started to wander

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Speaker 1: away and wonder a little bit. The TV deal was pending,

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Speaker 1: and so Guggenheim said, let's go, let's turn it on.

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Speaker 5: I had to.

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Speaker 1: I went from you know, trying to find a nickel

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Speaker 1: in the in the seat cushion to get a player

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Speaker 1: to having, you know, having to tell owners of hey,

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Speaker 1: we got we got to slow this down a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We can't be hading twenty thirty forty people. Dave Hoberk

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Speaker 1: would never let me do this in a painting. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got to keep it down to twenty five. But

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Speaker 1: it was really a changing deal for so many reasons.

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Speaker 1: And I have become a little bit known for having

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Speaker 1: team space salaries of other players. My dear friend Kevin Towers,

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Speaker 1: and we got Greg Maddix from him near the end

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Speaker 1: of Greg's career, and he had to pay two and

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Speaker 1: a half million dollars we need to take Greg Maddox,

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Speaker 1: he was, you know, the fuddle that the big Dodgers

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Speaker 1: need two and a half million dollars in the little

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Speaker 1: padres they make a deal. We had seven and a

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Speaker 1: half million paint on Manny's deal from the red side.

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Speaker 1: So what I called, or actually MLB called me when

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Speaker 1: and it was two hundred and sixty two million at

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Speaker 1: we were going to take on. And Danny Halem called

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Speaker 1: me and he says, please don't tell me Boston's paying

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Speaker 1: fifty or sixty million of this deal. And I said, no, Danny,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna pay twelve. But that but that's it, you know,

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Speaker 1: So anyway, but it changed the franchise. I think you

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Speaker 1: told everybody that ownership was real. And you look what

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Speaker 1: they've done in the last decade plus. You know they're real.

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Speaker 4: Say one quick anecdote there to throw out.

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Speaker 8: We knew or.

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Speaker 4: We can definitely remember. The money situation was tight because

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Speaker 4: one of the final big signings he had was Jerry

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Speaker 4: Harrison Junior before the money came in. So thank god

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Speaker 4: for Guggenheim.

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Speaker 1: Hey wait, without Jerry Harrison Junior. I don't get a

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Speaker 1: TV career and win. If he had been a better player,

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Speaker 1: I'd still be the GM.

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Speaker 2: Dave, Dave Hobrick, Ned Kalettiche working together, of course with

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Speaker 2: Oral Hrscheiser on the forward of this amazing book, All

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Speaker 2: Time Dodgers Art Book.

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Speaker 3: It is available now.

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Speaker 2: Go to so many different outlets to get at Hobrick

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Speaker 2: some absolutely amazing antidotes about Ned's tenure as the Los

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Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers general manager. I highly encourage you to get

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Speaker 2: the Big Chair, written by Ned.

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Speaker 3: I can hear his voice when I read this.

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Speaker 2: It is a phenomenal book if you are a Dodgers fan,

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Speaker 2: talk about taking you behind the curtain to see what

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Speaker 2: goes on in the life of a general manager. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: we appreciate you. Thank you so much for being with

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Speaker 2: us on Dodgers' territory. Best of luck Dave with this book,

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Speaker 2: and we will certainly talk to you soon. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for sharing some of your insight this today.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you both.

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Speaker 2: So clubhouse leadership in question. Is there an issue Clint

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Speaker 2: Pissius Freddy Freeman was asked about, obviously Jason Hayward and

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Speaker 2: it's above my pay grade about what the decisions and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff are. But personally it's sad. Now you know,

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Speaker 2: in context, these two are best buds. So obviously Freddy

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Speaker 2: did not want Jason to get let go, but it's

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Speaker 2: a business.

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Speaker 3: What is your take on this?

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Speaker 4: Uh, it's one of the hardest things I imagine the

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Speaker 4: the and even the older side. But at some point

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Speaker 4: and the reality is Jason Hayward wasn't going to provide

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Speaker 4: much value on the field for this team going forward.

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Speaker 4: So clubhouses change, Alana, you were there when aj Ellis

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Speaker 4: was traded from the organization, the pain that that brought

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Speaker 4: to the team. I think this could be comparable. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know, you're not in the clubhouse these days like

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Speaker 4: you were then, But I feel like that's a pretty

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Speaker 4: apt comparison.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great comparison.

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Speaker 2: I remember that day specifically when AJ got traded, and

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Speaker 2: it was a shock and Clayton Kershaw was incredibly bummed

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Speaker 2: because I know that they say that we don't believe

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Speaker 2: in personal catchers, but that's yes, there are personal catchers

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Speaker 2: for guys, and AJ always caught Kersh. They caught the

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Speaker 2: no hitter together, or they had that no hitter together.

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Speaker 2: So it was an opportunity, you know, that the team

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Speaker 2: needed to do. And I understand the business side of it,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, there are feelings in this. Remember, these guys

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Speaker 2: are humans before they're they're players, right, They're people before

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Speaker 2: they're players. But I understand I understand that it's a

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Speaker 2: it's a business, but doesn't mean that it doesn't stink.

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Speaker 2: I think we'll see what the dividends are in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: You know, if Kevin Kiermeyer comes up huge, if it's

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Speaker 2: if this is the roster we're taking to the postseason,

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Speaker 2: if he comes up huge defensively, then fans will not

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Speaker 2: you know, they're not going to regret this decision. But

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Speaker 2: I understand what's coming up on your channel. I know

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Speaker 2: that you just had Dave and Ned on the other day,

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Speaker 2: So what's coming up today?

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Speaker 3: On All Dodgers with clymps.

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Speaker 4: Today we're talking more about all of the Dodgers. It's

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Speaker 4: another off d I got some voicemails loaded up of

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Speaker 4: fans opinions. I got to talk about the latest development

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Speaker 4: with the team with the Tony Gonsolin thing. We got

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Speaker 4: some news and injury updates and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: So a lot a lot of comment interaction there on

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Speaker 4: the channel. So check it out tonight six pm Pacific

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Speaker 4: time on my YouTube channel. I usually write in the

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Speaker 4: comments here, guys, so just click on that, find my

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Speaker 4: channel or type it in. All Dodgers with Clint Pisias

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Speaker 4: before we get out of here, I got a shout

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Speaker 4: out my guy, Richard Flores. He left us a super

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Speaker 4: chat earlier in the show fort nine nine, so thank you, Richie.

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Speaker 4: Going back talking about the show, Hey Tani situation, Padres

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Speaker 4: fans apparently losing their Sea World mind on social media,

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Speaker 4: saying that if Otani was pitching this year, it wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be happening. So we're gonna have to wait for him

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Speaker 4: to go fifty to fifty to get that MVP. But

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Speaker 4: I wanted to make sure.

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Speaker 2: I guess, is this the same Padres team that has

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Speaker 2: parades for like random games that they win. Is this

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Speaker 2: the same fan base that has, like, you know, when

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Speaker 2: the Lakers won the Ncason Tournament, they put up a

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Speaker 2: banner in the Staples Center? Is this Is this that

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Speaker 2: type of crap stock? Just what they should be throwing

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Speaker 2: a freaking parade over? Is Jackson Merrill? Where would this

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Speaker 2: team be without that guy? He's phenomenal. I would be

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Speaker 2: I would be fine if you got National leagu Rookie

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Speaker 2: of the Year. But calm down, if Sho was pitching,

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't be. Please give you a break, stop just stop,

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Speaker 2: all right, let's got it. Yeah, yeah, an American Well

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Speaker 2: we have we now have pen Stripe Territory, so that

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Speaker 2: we actually have one team in the American League represented

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Speaker 2: on the Foul Territory platform. All right, So for Mint Mobile,

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Speaker 2: for Factor, for everyone that's on Dodgers Territory, thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for being here, for Ned and for Dave Hobrick

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Speaker 2: to get that book, All Time Dodgers Art Book.

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Speaker 3: It's available now.

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Speaker 2: Clint and I are back with you on a Thursday

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Speaker 2: for a brand new live edition.

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Speaker 3: We'll finally have some games to talk about. We will

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Speaker 3: see you then bye.

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