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Speaker 2: Paul yours truly in the BRGS. And it's a national

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Speaker 2: signing day. Great day for BYU keeping their coach. Not

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Speaker 2: so good of a day with Penn State. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Chris Fowler, the voice of college football. He will

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Speaker 2: join us coming up here in a little bit. Also,

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Speaker 2: this Thursday night football game looks really really interesting. It

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Speaker 2: feels playoff like, you know, if the Cowboys maybe had

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Speaker 2: one more win now all of a sudden, now they

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Speaker 2: can really get into the playoff picture. The Lions. The

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Speaker 2: Lions concerned me here because you know, you keep waiting

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Speaker 2: for you know, teams they flip a switch. Well, I

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Speaker 2: think we like to think that happens, but it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: I think the Texans may have done that now they

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Speaker 2: got the Chiefs coming up this weekend. But the Lions

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Speaker 2: against the Cowboys, now, it's a must win for the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys to keep this story alive. It's a must win

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Speaker 2: for the Lions as well because the Bears have the

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Speaker 2: best record in the NFC and you got Green Bay

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Speaker 2: who has I think top five odds to win the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl now and it feels like they're kind of

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Speaker 2: figuring out who they are and Jordan Love has played

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Speaker 2: really well. This gets into that must win situation for

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Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, going back to Dallas, if Dallas can be

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Speaker 5: the Lions, they had the Vikings Chargers, Commanders Giants. That's

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Speaker 5: pretty winnable in their current state.

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Speaker 2: And how many wins. Let's say they win three of

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Speaker 2: those games. What do they have six wins right now?

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Speaker 2: They six five and one. Does that sound right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I got the Cowboys at six five and one. If

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Speaker 5: they could get ten wins, obviously you need some help

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Speaker 5: with the tie break, but that tie can help them.

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Speaker 5: That they had our elms season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the AFC is more wide open than the NFC.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a spicy game coming up tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Whitworth, former offensive lineman. He works for Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 2: concerned for some schools and Notre Dame and BYU because

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Speaker 2: for a while we were comparing Notre Dame and Miami.

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Speaker 2: I've got the resume comparison here Notre Dames ten and

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Speaker 2: two BYUS eleven and one conference record BYU eight and

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Speaker 2: one Notre Dame not into conference strength schedule BYU thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame forty two. Strength of record BYU is sixth,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is thirteen. Best win USC for Notre Dame,

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Speaker 2: number fifteen Utah for BYU. Worst loss at Miami for

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, worst loss at number five Texas Tech BYU

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Speaker 2: still has Texas Tech coming you. Is your microphone on seating?

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Speaker 2: You know it's funny. I went to turn it off

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you, Sorry about that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, if you're in Notre Dame, another team you

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Speaker 4: can root for is Duke. Now, if Duke eliminates Virginia,

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Speaker 4: the ACC might not have anybody, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, Duke is playing in the conference title

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Speaker 2: game with five losses. Right, all right, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: DP show. We spoke with Bill Cower this week and

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Speaker 2: we were talking about the booing that Mike Tomlin faced

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Speaker 2: after the loss at home against Buffalo, and I did

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Speaker 2: like what Cower said, he goes. You know, I'd see

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Speaker 2: people out on the street and if they said, hey, coach, hi,

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Speaker 2: coach how are you coach that? I thought, okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: don'ing okay. When they would walk by in whisper, then

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Speaker 2: I knew I was in trouble. He said, whenever we

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Speaker 2: lost a game, I never stopped to get gasoline. Never,

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Speaker 2: because I knew that I is going to get an

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Speaker 2: earfall from the Steeler fans. Here's Mike Tomlin talking about

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Speaker 2: the fans booing and chanting for him to get fired.

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Speaker 8: In general, I agree with him from this perspective. Football

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Speaker 8: is our game. We're in a sport entertainment business. And

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Speaker 8: so if you root for the Steelers, entertaining them is winning.

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Speaker 8: And so when you're not winning is not entertaining. And

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Speaker 8: if you've been in this business, you understand that, and

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Speaker 8: so I respect it. I share frustrations. I understand what

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Speaker 8: makes this thing go, and winning is what makes this

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Speaker 2: Okay, I respect that. Let me. Let me throw something

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Speaker 2: out there, and there's nothing attached to this. The last

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Speaker 2: thing I want to do is bring up any kind

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Speaker 2: of rumor with Mike Tomlin, because I did that one

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Speaker 2: time with USC's wish list that he was on the list.

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Speaker 2: He had no interest in going there. I was just

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Speaker 2: telling people This is how crazy you know they're they're

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Speaker 2: searching high and wide to get their next head coach. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that was a while ago. What if Mike Tomlin and

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Speaker 2: the Steelers parted ways mutual parting? You knew who would

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Speaker 2: call him right away? The Cleveland Browns would call him

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Speaker 2: right away. There would be the New York Giants would

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Speaker 2: call it. There would be a line of teams that

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Speaker 2: would say, hey, we got our coach, but we can

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Speaker 2: get that coach. And this might be a situation where

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Speaker 2: Mike says, I'm going to do some TV. Maybe I'd

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Speaker 2: do a couple of years here. He might find that

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Speaker 2: he likes it an awful lot. He's not an old guy.

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Speaker 2: Was he fifty four? Maybe fifty five? But you could

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Speaker 2: go into TV and maybe spend a couple of years

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Speaker 2: your you know, where you want to go, where you

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Speaker 2: want to live. How old is he, PAULI, he's fifty three. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so that's young. But you know you're in a city

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Speaker 2: that demands greatness because they've seen greatness. You've provided some

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Speaker 2: him to lose his job. If you're always nine and

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Speaker 2: eight or when they played sixteen games eight and eight, No.

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Speaker 2: Nine and seven, you can keep your job. But getting

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Speaker 2: unacceptable when you haven't won a playoff game since twenty

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Speaker 2: sixteen and you're the constant. That's where I think. And

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Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger said, hey, they might have to look at

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Speaker 2: cleaning house. This is from Ben, but imagine if how

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Speaker 2: would the Steeler fans feel if Tomlin went to the Browns?

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Speaker 2: Because you can't rule that out. Feels like Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 2: scenarios that I think would be realistic.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Mark, But if you're Mike Tomlin, what would entice

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Speaker 4: you to go to the Browns of all teams?

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Speaker 2: Well, if you want to coach again and you could

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Speaker 2: go in there, you got an unbelievable defense. Really, they

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Speaker 2: the Browns aren't that far away. I know it sounds

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Speaker 2: crazy to say that, but Okay, you got to find

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Speaker 2: your quarterback, and that's a big find. I get that.

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Speaker 2: But if you get a couple of pieces, then all

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Speaker 2: and he might look at that, or he might say, hey,

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Speaker 2: a defense to go along with that offense. Maybe you know,

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Speaker 2: he just says I'm going to go, you know, be

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Speaker 2: a TV analyst, which you know, he might like it.

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Speaker 2: He might find out that, you know, Sean McVay is

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Speaker 2: going to be a great analyst. At some point, probably

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Speaker 2: gets one more super Bowl, Super Bowl appearance, and then

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Speaker 2: he's probably going to go, hey, I can go dominate,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paulie, I want to say that Mike Tomlin should

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Speaker 5: pass on all AFC North jobs they come available. But

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Speaker 5: if the Bengals job, the healthy Joe Burrow becomes available,

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Speaker 5: I would make my pick based off the quarterback and

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Speaker 5: Brown's you know, you can't go to the Ravens and

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Speaker 5: not going to be open. But that Bengals job if

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Speaker 5: it did come open, Oh my gosh, what about the Giants?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about the New York Giants? I mean, you

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Speaker 2: got some players there. As long as Abdul Carter shows

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Speaker 2: up at meetings, Jackson Dart gets out of bounds. Yeah, Seaton, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know that Bengals job is interesting.

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Speaker 7: It's a good chance to win with somebody else's players,

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Speaker 7: step right into a good situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes.

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Speaker 3: Would there be mutual interest with the Raiders or Dolphins

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Speaker 3: AFC and Mike McDaniel, Lee's I know the Dolphins have

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Speaker 3: been playing well lately and the Raiders are a disaster

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Speaker 3: and they got a lot of rebelling to do, but

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Speaker 3: maybe this Pete Carroll experiment is a one and done.

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Speaker 2: Of course there would be interest. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame coach.

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Speaker 3: Would he want to go to one of those teams?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, I don't know. I don't know Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: at all. I don't think he's ever been on the show.

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Speaker 2: He's been asked before, but he's never been on the show.

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Speaker 6: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You know how the analysts always say, the next head

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Speaker 5: coach you hire, you want to be the opposite of

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Speaker 5: the one you're firing. Mike Tomlin is the opposite of

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Speaker 5: the Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel. I mean he

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Speaker 5: is a tough guy to the point, gritty football guy.

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Speaker 5: No nonsense, he's not. He doesn't look like the IT

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Speaker 5: guy with the quirky statements.

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Speaker 2: John and Philly, Hi, John, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 9: Hey? Dan? Six foot one eighty five as mentioning, you

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Speaker 9: were talking about Mike Tomlin and he would get his

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Speaker 9: ticket a litter if he would ever get let go

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Speaker 9: by the Steelers, And I as the Steelers fan, you know,

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Speaker 9: I feel like he is a bit overrated in the

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Speaker 9: sense of having basically two separate careers in the last

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Speaker 9: fifteen years. He's won three playoff games and they were

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Speaker 9: against Matt Moore, AJ McCarron and Alex Smith. Not the

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Speaker 9: greatest resume in regards of postseason in the last fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you, John. I still think there

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Speaker 2: will be a lot of teams in line. He's an upgrade.

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Speaker 2: He's an upgrade on those other coaches in those positions.

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Speaker 2: The question is what does he want? What's Pittsburgh going

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Speaker 2: to do? I mean, they got to find their quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They haven't had a quarterback since Ben and you know,

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Speaker 2: the defense isn't as formidable as it once was. It

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Speaker 2: feels like they get receivers, they don't keep receivers. Yeah, Paulie,

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Speaker 2: we were talking.

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Speaker 5: About a month ago best state for football, Worst state

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Speaker 5: for football, the current state of football in the state

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Speaker 10: And eighty as a lifetime in Nebraska fans. I feel

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Dan h best to all of the boys

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Speaker 7: So I think that Lane Kiffin might be bringing kids

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Speaker 2: Like easy dude. I don't know if he's been described

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Speaker 2: You know, whatever you see the play by play guy,

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Speaker 5: Except on the West Coast.

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Speaker 2: Chris Fowler gets to do that. ESPN College Football tennis

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Speaker 13: Nothing good is murder, she wrote, I mean I would

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Speaker 13: I'm not downplaying that.

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Speaker 6: It's crazy. I've seen the grafts on each player, and so.

434
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Speaker 13: When those guys make those investments in the roster, that's

435
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Speaker 13: what their ego tied to. That's what they're invested in,

436
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Speaker 13: literally financially and ego wise.

437
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Speaker 6: And the roster almost becomes more important.

438
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Speaker 13: To keep than the coach, if you know what I mean,

439
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 13: Because you get they figure to get a guy to

440
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Speaker 13: coach this roster. But assembling this roster and paying what

441
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Speaker 13: we've invested, you think the coaches are well paid. These

442
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Speaker 13: rosters are like twenty twenty five thirty million bucks. That's

443
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Speaker 13: not really talked about enough. You better It's like pro sports, right,

444
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Speaker 13: you can cover and be able. The roster is really

445
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Speaker 13: bigger than the coach.

446
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Speaker 2: I'm talking to Chris Fowler. He'll be on the call

447
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Speaker 2: the SEC title game that'll be at four eastern Saturday

448
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Speaker 2: on ABC also the Heisman Trophy ceremony December thirteenth, and

449
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: also the national title game as well. Kiffin to LSU.

450
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Speaker 2: More about Lane Kiffin or the hiring structure windows of

451
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Speaker 2: college football.

452
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Speaker 13: Well, the schedule is a problem, but that doesn't that's

453
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Speaker 13: not his reason for going to LSU. You want to

454
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Speaker 13: be mad at Lane Kiffer and failing an ole miss

455
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Speaker 13: go ahead.

456
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Speaker 6: It's not the schedule's fault.

457
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Speaker 13: The schedule sets up to create messy situations, right.

458
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Speaker 6: You can't have signing.

459
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Speaker 13: The playoff, and the portal basically compressed within one month,

460
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Speaker 13: all coinciding, coming and going all the time. The coaching

461
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 13: carousel is only going to spend more and more, is

462
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Speaker 13: what I was talking about with the rosters. You can't

463
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Speaker 13: live with this roster. We'll get someone who can. So

464
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Speaker 13: that's not going to change going forward. We're gonna have

465
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Speaker 13: a messy situation every year. They could clean up some

466
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Speaker 13: of it by maybe a more logical schedule. That's a

467
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Speaker 13: longer conversation. You know, Kiffin did what most coaches would do.

468
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Speaker 13: Giffen did what Pete Carroll and Nick Saban told him

469
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Speaker 13: to do basically, and what or advised him to do.

470
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Speaker 13: I'll put it that way and what he thought his

471
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Speaker 13: late dad, Monty would have wanted him to do. And

472
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Speaker 13: LSU has resources. They won championships with pre coaches.

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Speaker 6: Oh Miss, I think he could do it there too,

474
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Speaker 6: but it's more of a leap of faith.

475
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Speaker 13: I like Lane and ole Miss. I'm disappointed for their program.

476
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Speaker 13: I hope they make a nice run in the playoff

477
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Speaker 13: with Pete Golding as coach. But Lane is not the

478
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Speaker 13: villain who's symbolic of everything wrong with the sport.

479
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Speaker 6: Fans they're going to think that they're going to root.

480
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Speaker 13: For LSU to lose every game by fifty, which they won't,

481
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Speaker 13: by the way.

482
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Speaker 6: But you know, he did what most coaches would do.

483
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Speaker 6: And I think the old narrative about ripping players or coaches.

484
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Speaker 13: For making business decisions, in other words, taking more money

485
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 13: to go somewhere else. You got to get past that.

486
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Speaker 13: That's outdated. It's kind of tired and lazy to me.

487
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 13: It's the reality of the situation.

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Speaker 6: You be mad about it.

489
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Speaker 13: You can say college football has been ruined by the portal,

490
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Speaker 13: by ESPN, whoever you want, but that's just whining and pitching.

491
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Speaker 13: Coaches no longer do that. They understand the nature of things.

492
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Speaker 13: And I think fans need to as well. It's not

493
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Speaker 13: your grandfather's college football, your dad's either It is what

494
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Speaker 13: it is, like it or not.

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Speaker 6: It's very, very close to the structure of pro sports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said it quite a few times the last

497
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Speaker 2: couple of days. I don't begrudge him for taking the job.

498
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Speaker 2: It's a great job to take. It's sort of the

499
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Speaker 2: way he took it and the mess that he left behind.

500
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Speaker 2: And you want to go back and coach, but all

501
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Speaker 2: they won't let me coach, and you know, don't play

502
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Speaker 2: victim here. Don't don't do that.

503
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Speaker 6: He said, he think the viility. He's not a victim.

504
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Speaker 6: You can't want to coach the team you go to

505
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Speaker 6: an arch rival.

506
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Speaker 13: If you don't know, folks, that's a bitter rivalry that

507
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 13: he left Ole Miss for it for a school that

508
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 13: LSU considers Old Miss their little brother and the neighborly

509
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 13: thing there. I mean, you can't. You can't have both.

510
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 13: And and at most schools would do what Ole Miss.

511
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Speaker 13: I know Tulamee some stay that's a whole different situation.

512
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Speaker 13: They're not in the playoff yet, they have to they

513
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 13: have some work to do. But I think that. I

514
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Speaker 13: don't begrudge all missed. I feel badly for their players,

515
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Speaker 13: I really do. That's why I think I hope they

516
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Speaker 13: make a nice run. It'd be a great story if

517
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Speaker 13: ole Miss could say, hell with Kevin, we're gonna rally

518
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Speaker 13: around Pete Golding and go make or run there.

519
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Speaker 6: But but you know, and I like Lane.

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Speaker 13: I think he's been the best coach he's ever been

521
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 13: by far at ole Miss the last six years, and

522
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Speaker 13: the happiest person that he's been. So that that to me,

523
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 13: that's why it's a little bit bittersweet. But I you know,

524
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 13: easily got hire at LSU, got a great chance to

525
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Speaker 13: win a championship. I said in a video I posted,

526
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 13: he's gonna get fired at LSU. He's gonna get They

527
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 13: fire everybody unless you're Nick Saban.

528
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Speaker 6: Saban wins and goes to the Dolphins. He probably would

529
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Speaker 6: have kept winning and he stayed there.

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Speaker 13: Nick Saban is kind of an outlier, right, But LSU

531
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Speaker 13: fires two coaches who win championships and not that far

532
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Speaker 13: after they won, him Miles.

533
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Speaker 6: And the Oris run.

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Speaker 13: So even if you win a championship down there and

535
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 13: then you fall off because maintaining consistent excellence in this

536
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 13: landscape with the portal is really really hard to do.

537
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Speaker 6: So you're gonna have a big year, and expectation is

538
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 6: gonna be through the roof.

539
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Speaker 13: And then you're gonna You're gonna let it down and

540
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Speaker 13: then nobody's patient. So I think whatever Lane does there,

541
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Speaker 13: it'll be probably messy when it ends. His exits tend

542
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 13: to be messy, and even even his knowledge that right,

543
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 13: some guys just.

544
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Speaker 6: Make a clean break and off the next so nobody

545
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 6: gets mad at him Lane. When Lane leaves, it gets messy.

546
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Speaker 6: It's just you know.

547
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Speaker 2: Lane talked about the Nick Saban advising him. Should Saban

548
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Speaker 2: on College game Day this weekend acknowledge that he was

549
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Speaker 2: guiding him to or told him to leave Old miss

550
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Speaker 2: as Lane Kiff and his talking should should he be

551
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Speaker 2: saying that since he's on the premier college you know

552
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Speaker 2: football program, and you're the most one of the most

553
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Speaker 2: powerful people, and you are guiding Lanekiffin to take the

554
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Speaker 2: LSHU job. Should that have been disclosed or will it

555
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Speaker 2: be disclosed?

556
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Speaker 6: Will it be disclosed?

557
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Speaker 13: I have no idea, but you think I should advise

558
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Speaker 13: Nick Saban and what to tell people?

559
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Speaker 2: Well, if I'm reise Davis. I got to ask the question,

560
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Speaker 2: Chris Well.

561
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Speaker 13: No, I am saying I think he didn't tell him

562
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Speaker 13: to leave a miss to clarify that. He just laid

563
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Speaker 13: out for him what his opinion was of the opportunity

564
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Speaker 13: to win a national championship in either places, as I

565
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Speaker 13: understand it so and he wouldn't be the only one

566
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Speaker 13: to lay out that argument. Again, as I said, it's

567
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Speaker 13: been done in LSU by three different coaches, not that

568
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 13: not that much time, and it hasn't been an old miss.

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Speaker 13: I think that that's a little bit less relevant in

570
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Speaker 13: the modern system because you can win a championship at

571
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Speaker 13: Texas Tech.

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Speaker 6: They might do it.

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Speaker 13: I mean they're not favored to, but they are capable

574
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Speaker 13: of winning a championship. You know, look TC, you got

575
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Speaker 13: to the championship game. Ole Miss can make a deep run.

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Speaker 13: I don't think you have to be one of the

577
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Speaker 13: biggest brands because you can. You can spend like the

578
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Speaker 13: big brands did. That's what Texas Tech has done. And

579
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Speaker 13: the path in the Big twelve is is less rugged

580
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Speaker 13: than other conferences. But I don't think ole Miss would

581
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Speaker 13: be incapable of winning a national championship.

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Speaker 2: He's advising him This is Lane saying that he's the

583
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Speaker 2: one who said you got to take the job. All

584
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Speaker 2: of us.

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Speaker 6: I think that Pete Carroll advice.

586
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Speaker 2: But Saban's the guy who is doing college football. He

587
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Speaker 2: doing game Day.

588
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Speaker 13: I think Saban wisdom is massively respected by every single

589
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Speaker 13: coach in the business, including Land of course, who worked

590
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Speaker 13: for him. So I think that, you know, offline with

591
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Speaker 13: conversation they had. That's that's for Nick to share or not.

592
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Speaker 13: But you know, I think he I think Nick coach

593
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Speaker 13: at LSU, won a championshipdel he does care about the program,

594
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Speaker 13: and I think he's well acquainted with the landscape down there,

595
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 13: the challenges of it. Again, he won and then went

596
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Speaker 13: to the Dolphins, which didn't make LSU fans that happy,

597
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 13: made him even more unhappy when he came back and

598
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Speaker 13: coached Alabama and then beat him. So I mean Nick

599
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Speaker 13: Nick Nick and LSU have an interesting relationship, but he

600
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Speaker 13: did win a championship and he's acknowledged as the greatest

601
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Speaker 13: coach of all time. I think by there are people

602
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Speaker 13: so I don't know. I think you can't put it

603
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Speaker 13: on that. You know, Lane made his own choice. You

604
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Speaker 13: get advice and whoever you want, you take it to

605
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Speaker 13: whatever degree you want and uh, and you use.

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Speaker 6: It, but you can't. You can't say that he's the

607
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 6: reason that Lam made his decision.

608
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Speaker 2: I mean, I thought it was conflict of interest there

609
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: because he's on the individual.

610
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Speaker 6: Because he's on game day.

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Speaker 13: If you had any idea, if you had any idea,

612
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Speaker 13: the number of calls that you feel from people in

613
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 13: the sport asking your opinion and advice on coaches on everything,

614
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Speaker 13: I mean, you have to really, Nick, Nick is not

615
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 13: my position, you know, if you're if you're on the

616
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Speaker 13: panel as a as a.

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Speaker 6: Pundit, I think it's different.

618
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Speaker 13: Nick Nick is still an all time great coach, But

619
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Speaker 13: the connection is all of the sport and a coach

620
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Speaker 13: at the place we're talking about. That's not the same

621
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Speaker 13: thing as as somebody calling Reese or Dez or Kirk

622
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Speaker 13: or me or in whatever, Pat McAfee. You know, it's

623
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Speaker 13: it's different. I get asked those questions all the time.

624
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Speaker 13: I'm not comfortable with.

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Speaker 6: It, and I try to say out of it because.

626
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Speaker 13: My opinion whether a guy would be a good coach

627
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Speaker 13: fit at their place should not be factor into the

628
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Speaker 13: decision that somebody makes.

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Speaker 6: In my view, I just start to stay out of that.

630
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Speaker 2: How dangerous is Georgia They seem to be lost in

631
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: the shuffle here of you know, when we're talking about

632
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Speaker 2: great I don't know if they're a great team, but

633
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Speaker 2: how do you assess how good they are this year

634
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Speaker 2: compared to what Kirby's had in previous years, not as talented.

635
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Speaker 13: As those teams that win championships that had like the

636
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 13: whole to phill up the Eagles defense on them, they

637
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 13: had like eight first round guy, those ridiculous. You're not

638
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Speaker 13: going to ever see a defense as good as Georgia

639
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 13: had in those years, in my opinion, the way we're

640
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 13: trending in this sport, they find ways, though, Dan, I mean,

641
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 13: Kirby knows how to get a team to hit its

642
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 13: stride at this part of the season. And that's priceless

643
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 13: because that's the thing that coaches struggle with. It comes

644
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,479
Speaker 13: from the physicality, the toughness that you learn from day one.

645
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 13: You get to Georgia. They're really banged up. Their center,

646
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 13: Drew Bobo is out. I don't think he's going to

647
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 13: be able to go again, and certainly not playing Saturday,

648
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 13: and to lose your center is a really tough loss.

649
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 13: Everybody's beat up. Alabama's walking wounded. But Georgia is a tough,

650
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 13: tough out.

651
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Speaker 6: They're hard to kill, as they like to say, and

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Speaker 6: being hard to kill is really priceless in the postseason.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're just like an NFL team. You can

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Speaker 6: call them like the Chiefs right that.

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Speaker 13: It doesn't matter the regular you get them in that

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Speaker 13: bracket and shit, you don't want to play them, and

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Speaker 13: nobody wants to play Georgia.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're a tough out. Are they going to

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Speaker 6: overwhelm you offensively?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: Are they going to allow you allow three points a game?

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Speaker 6: On defense? No, They've been a little bit more vulnerable,

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Speaker 6: especially early in games.

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Speaker 13: But the way they're playing defense now, the way they

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Speaker 13: played against Georgia Tech, I don't expect a scoring infest

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Speaker 13: against Alabama. George is going to be hard to beat

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Speaker 13: and it'll be interesting to see where they, you know,

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Speaker 13: get match up. But I know no one wants to

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Speaker 13: see them opposite your team in the bracket.

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Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you. State's fired up, now,

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Speaker 2: come on, this is the biggest time of the year.

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Speaker 2: This when you got to perform.

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Speaker 6: Chris, do I not look fired up today?

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Speaker 2: You do you do. But but but what, no, no,

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Speaker 2: did you get a lift in today?

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Speaker 6: You know I didn't get it. I didn't get a

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Speaker 6: cold plunge in.

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Speaker 13: I did three minutes of thirty eight degrees in the backyard,

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Speaker 13: but we got the landscape.

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Speaker 6: I can't get out there yet. But once the col

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Speaker 6: we'll get a lift. I don't know. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 6: You didn't you didn't felt I was fired up, But

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Speaker 6: I'm fired up. Don't give you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Every day is super Bowl for me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on my deathbed here. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: barely able to talk. But uh, I mean you know this,

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Speaker 2: you know you.

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Speaker 6: You play hurt. I will, I will.

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Speaker 13: I have a nobody cares if I have knee surgery

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Speaker 13: on Monday, So I'll get through that.

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Speaker 6: I'll be at the highestman. You gotta do what you

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Speaker 6: gotta do, and you're You're a great example of that.

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Speaker 2: So I'll talk to you.

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Speaker 6: A great health.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris. That's Chris Fowler. He's tough. He'll be

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Speaker 2: on the call for the SEC title game coming up

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Speaker 2: this weekend. I think I had should surgery and came in.

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Speaker 2: I did that Friday, came in Monday. I mean just

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Speaker 2: saying colon Osca Bey Sports Hernia did that came back

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Speaker 2: the next day. So we're gonna run down the resume

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Speaker 2: hashtag warrior, Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you would think that Foller would schedule the surgery

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Speaker 5: for the offseason, a nice March surgery between tennis events.

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Speaker 5: But no, that's a warrior or two. Okay, I appreciate

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Speaker 5: that every day. Super Bowl. All right, we'll take a break.

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Speaker 5: We'll come back after this. More phone calls as well.

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Speaker 5: Also the Hall of Fame class the finalists are revealed,

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Speaker 5: and we'll have that for you coming up right after this.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this every time I have Chris Foller on.

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Speaker 2: I think he's great at what he does, whether it's

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Speaker 2: calling college football, calling tennis, he's great. Always been a

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Speaker 2: professional since I've known him, and I think we get

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Speaker 2: caught up sometimes where do you have a signature call?

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Speaker 2: And he does it. He was never a gimmick catchphrase guy.

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Speaker 2: He just does his job, you know, like Sean McDonough.

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Speaker 2: They just do their job, and they do it at

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Speaker 2: a really, really high level. All right. Among the finalists

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Speaker 2: for the Hall of Fame, Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft.

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Speaker 2: Other finalists in the seniors category Ken Anderson, former Bengal

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Speaker 2: quarterback who should be in the Hall of Fame. Roger

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Speaker 2: Craig should be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 10: L C.

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Speaker 2: Greenwood part of the Steel Curtain. A maximum of three

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Speaker 2: from the five person group can be elected to the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame this year. Now, is that the senior

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Speaker 2: category that we're talking about, Paulie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a bit separate from the normal thing

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Speaker 5: like Eli Manning or Philip Rivers and guys like this.

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Speaker 5: This is a different category, and a Mac one has

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Speaker 5: to go in, a Mac three can go in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But why aren't Robert Krafft and Bill Belichick part

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Speaker 2: of the regular Hall of Fame activities.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think this is just separate from the traditional players

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Speaker 5: who hit the five year mark. Okay, else Greenwood, by

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Speaker 5: the way, with the Steelers, I looked it up. Six

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Speaker 5: Pro Bowls in the seventies and he was on the

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Speaker 5: Hall of Fame All seventies team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got overshadowed because there are quite a few

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Speaker 2: great defensive players, linebackers, defensive backs, and of course mean

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Speaker 2: Joe Green. But Kenny Anderson was a great player for

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Speaker 2: a bad team, and just him getting recognized is I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy for that, but I've been saying that Kenny

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Speaker 2: Anderson to me is a Hall of Famer. Evan in Oregon, Hi, Evan,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today? Thank you? Evan. Paulie wants

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Speaker 2: to play a fill in the blank. I guess we

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Speaker 2: have a coaching hire that just happened.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan, here it is to Pete Dammel of ESPN

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Speaker 5: Ohio State offensive corder to Brian Hartline is expected to

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Speaker 5: be the next head coach at blank blank.

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Speaker 2: Penn State, Nope, South Florida US F your bulls. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's the Penn State of Florida. Yes, Penn State of

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Speaker 2: the South. I mean you are technically correct. I kind

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Speaker 2: of was, yes, yes, okay, all right, Well I thought

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Speaker 2: he was going to get an opportunity, all right, Good

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Speaker 2: for him. They'll get good wide receivers there.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Brett in California, Hi, Brett, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 14: No, I've been thinking about this lane Kippen things. I

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Speaker 14: had a friend call me a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 14: He said, I want to quit my job. I don't

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Speaker 14: want to give two weeks notice. I feel bad about it.

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Speaker 14: And I said, is this the same job where they

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Speaker 14: laid people off and they showed up at work and

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Speaker 14: they locked him out of the office and said that

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Speaker 14: they could go fIF fifteen minutes at their desk and

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Speaker 14: then take their things and leave. He said, yeah, I said,

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Speaker 14: these guys don't know you anything. You know, they don't

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Speaker 14: respect you. And you look at somebody like James Franklin,

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Speaker 14: he's almost, you know, one step away from a national

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Speaker 14: championship game, and then he's out the door. So is

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Speaker 14: the situation great? No, But if you're in a situation

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Speaker 14: where they can ask you to leave at any moment,

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Speaker 14: then you should be able to do the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But they also get a big payday. They get

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Speaker 2: paid their contract. When you leave your job, you don't

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Speaker 2: get paid. It's like you get two weeks, maybe you

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Speaker 2: get severings. James Franklin got paid, Brian Kelly got paid.

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Speaker 2: These guys don't feel sorry for them, they get paid.

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Speaker 2: Would you update the poll results?

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Speaker 12: There?

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Speaker 2: Seatan Yeah, we got a couple of them up.

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Speaker 7: There, Old please, Old please, Old please. If you were

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Speaker 7: on the college football playoff committee, which Russian now, would

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Speaker 7: be most important whilst ranking teams, the team's resume, their

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Speaker 7: chance to win, or team's good for ratings. Right now,

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Speaker 7: team good for ratings has three point one percent of

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Speaker 7: the vote. Almost the team's resume is just absolutely crushing

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Speaker 7: on that one. And then are you comfortable with the

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Speaker 7: current college football ranking system? Seventy three percent of the

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Speaker 7: audience say.

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Speaker 2: No, okay, I'm okay with it. Do I like it?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: But do I We've made a lot of progress here

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Speaker 2: in the last fifteen years. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: See, it's like college football has this element of like

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Speaker 7: gymnastics in it or I have ice skating or something

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Speaker 7: where there's sort of you know, in that there's the

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Speaker 7: technical ability, but then there's also the artistic merit. College

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Speaker 7: football you have to win with a certain amount of artistry.

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Speaker 7: You have to have the right wins at the right time.

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Speaker 2: To satisfy the right people, the judges. Well, you have artistry,

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Speaker 2: you have all of that, but you also have who

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Speaker 2: won in lost as well that you throw in to

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Speaker 2: the equation there. We'll talk some more football and he

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Speaker 2: must win Thursday Night for the Cowboys and the Lions.