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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily. Where we've done it. We have

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Speaker 1: reached the best slate of the season. I'm Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: here in the Chris Westleyan podcast studio with my friends Patrick,

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Speaker 1: Claybond and Steve Weisch. I've done a scientific breakdown. No,

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Speaker 1: it's just off vibes. I think this is it. I

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Speaker 1: think this is the slate I'm most excited for all

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Speaker 1: season one.

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Speaker 2: But let me ask you this, Are you more excited

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Speaker 2: for the slate or the fact that Bill Belichick and

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Speaker 2: Robert Kraft?

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Speaker 1: The answer is no, our finalist.

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Speaker 2: Together to go into the Pro Football Hall of Fame potentially.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's start here in January. Do you know a

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Speaker 1: lot about the voters?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that they'll be more likely to vote

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Speaker 1: him in together because they want to see that messiness

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Speaker 1: or less likely because it's weirder distraction.

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Speaker 3: No, I think they would bring them together.

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Speaker 2: I honestly can't see how they would put in one,

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Speaker 2: knowing the voters put in one and not the other

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Speaker 2: because Robert Craft should have been it right.

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Speaker 1: I could see how they would because to me, Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick is, you know, one of the greatest coaches of

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Speaker 1: all time. And Robert Kraft has been waiting to get

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Speaker 1: in yere after you're he's an owner, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think I think they both will go.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to put in one, I think you're

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Speaker 2: going to put in two scoops. The Patriots will play

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Speaker 2: in the game. So if Abel can be there, it

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Speaker 2: could be a you know, a whole weekend and can't

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Speaker 1: I would like to request officially to iHeart Matt Schneider,

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Speaker 1: whoever is out there listening, I want to go to

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Speaker 1: that weekend. Steve still needs to go, everyone else still

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Speaker 1: needs to go. Just tack me on. I will go

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Speaker 1: in Steve's luggage.

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Speaker 4: I can fit a perfect summnation of all of the

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Speaker 4: circumstances where it's a great accomplishment by the New England Patriots,

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Speaker 4: just adorned by a whole bunch of mess. Everybody will

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Speaker 4: ignore ye and we'll talk about it. It's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: this team's dealing with the distraction. It's chaos, like people

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Speaker 4: punching each other, houses on fire, and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: the Patriots win again.

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Speaker 3: Perfect, perfect way to sum it all. How awesome would

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Speaker 3: it be?

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Speaker 2: Like you got first ballot guys, like you know, Drew

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Speaker 2: Brees and Lady Gerald. You know, Luke Keigley should be

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Speaker 2: going it, Tory hold all these guys, can you imagine

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Speaker 2: being like overshadowed m by that?

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Speaker 4: I think I think that group of guys can absolutely

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Speaker 1: Yes that's fair and yeah true. You know what, more

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Speaker 1: for real, hey, let's be real. More attention on that

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Speaker 1: weekend in general, I think will be even better for

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Speaker 1: the great like Breeze and fitzro. But yes, the slate

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Speaker 1: and it's not about having every game one to sixteen perfect,

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Speaker 1: and in fact there's four by by teams this week,

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Speaker 1: the last bye week. It's more about having great games

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Speaker 1: at each part of the schedule. So we started off

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Speaker 1: with a banger Cowboys Lions on Thursday night in the

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Speaker 1: early window, which we're going to talk about on this show.

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Speaker 1: We got Steelers Ravens, we got Burrow versus Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: three really good ones all at once. In the late window,

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest, most interesting games of the year,

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Speaker 4: Even when right because obviously the direct impact on the

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Speaker 4: looking forward to it cannot wait. We start with a

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Speaker 1: Stephens, I don't think so, because the most consistent side

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Speaker 3: First off, I can't see the sick. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: Neither one of these teams has shown any type of

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Speaker 2: think that Greg Roman got a talking to, like get

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Speaker 2: just saw the Bills do to the Steelers running the football,

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Speaker 3: Man. There's nothing about them right now that looks good.

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Speaker 4: Patrick, Well, the thing that would you would hope to

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Speaker 4: live on explosive plays. Lamar is going to hunt explosive

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Speaker 4: The bright side is the Pittsburgh Steelers on offense have

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Speaker 4: They're in that game instead, like we're having these weird discussions.

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Speaker 1: I I don't either, but I just trust it. Like

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Speaker 1: Like you look at the yards perk, it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: And man, that that's an offensive line problem, that's a

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's a Dereck Henry problem.

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Speaker 2: But and Patrick, you're Raven's fan. This is as finesse

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Speaker 2: Because the one thing about the Steelers when you watch

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but Mike Tommon says they're going to go back

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Speaker 1: So I think Lamar looked better last week. He certainly

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Speaker 1: I feel like it could I've seen these seasons, they

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Speaker 1: I think more likely in Baltimore, I think it's possible.

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Speaker 2: Even though the Steelers couldn't do some things now, Joey

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Speaker 3: I just it's the game's in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Patrick having pretty solid numbers since to Buy, their defensive

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I talked about the Baltimore Ravens being you know,

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Speaker 3: It's a problem for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: Greg.

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Speaker 4: It turns out the Bills are better when their best

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Speaker 1: This is just where if you throw enough numbers against

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Speaker 1: I mean you could they played the Texans with Coleman

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Speaker 4: I just think because we talked, we've talked about the

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Speaker 3: Go for it.

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Speaker 4: Because there was there was a goal to go play it.

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Speaker 3: Great where yeah it's it's great, but no team has

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Speaker 1: And he's shown the weight of that. I think at

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Speaker 3: I always at that game in Houston, I was in

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Speaker 1: We probably aren't getting Trey Hendrickson back though for this game.

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Speaker 1: And yes, the Bengals are only two games back. They

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Speaker 1: They could be angling to that second place schedule. There.

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Speaker 3: A great game. I love especially Burrow.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that one.

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Speaker 4: But we also have a great game in the AFC South,

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Speaker 4: It is the Colts who are favored still by one

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I'm going to have to get

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Speaker 1: I think the Colts are not the profile of a

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Speaker 2: I like the Colts in this game, and frankly, the

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Speaker 1: if you could sweep the opposition, basically, that punches it

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars have had plenty of injuries a lot of

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Speaker 1: teams have injuries, but the Colts, there's just a drop

439
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Speaker 1: off from their like star players, and those were two

440
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Speaker 1: of their best players obviously on the defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the acquisition of Sauces is what helps you. It's like, Okay,

442
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Speaker 4: that's the piece, the piece on defense where they get

443
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Speaker 4: a big opportunity for a playmaker, and they don't They

444
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Speaker 4: don't know how long term this calf injury is going

445
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Speaker 4: to be. And you have to be concerned anytime somebody's

446
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Speaker 4: got a lower calf injury of how things are going

447
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Speaker 4: to go. No where on the officiality of the time frame.

448
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Speaker 1: Yet they're not going to put them on injured reserve

449
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Speaker 1: according to Ian Rapp.

450
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Speaker 2: But but I mean I'm saying this jokingly, but also seriously,

451
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Speaker 2: a team from Indiana who's got a star player with

452
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Speaker 2: a calf injury. We just saw it in the NBA

453
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Speaker 2: Finals with Tyreez Alibert. They're not trying to have this

454
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Speaker 2: much calf trauma going on with their athletic teams. So,

455
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Speaker 2: and I will say this, I'm glad you mentioned sass Gardner.

456
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Speaker 2: One of the best trade acquisitions we have seen at

457
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Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers has done of Jacksonville. So now they've got

458
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Speaker 2: two threats on the outside that could really stress out

459
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Speaker 2: this Colts defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, perhaps it's a friend of the pod, Liam Cohen

461
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Speaker 4: listening to our conversation over the course of the season

462
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Speaker 4: about the struggles by these Jags receivers on inbreakers where

463
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Speaker 4: you had the best inbreaking receiver on the team in Britain,

464
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Speaker 4: Strange goes down for multiple weeks in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 3: The offense looks lost.

467
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Speaker 4: I tried to find an on off split for Britain Strange,

468
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Speaker 4: it didn't match the agenda, so I left that alone.

469
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Speaker 4: But the wins come and Jacoby Myers has the career

470
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Speaker 4: long on an inbreaker where trev looks more comfortable. The

471
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Speaker 4: run game is not what it was during those stretches.

472
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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wish casting here. I'm starting to worry about

473
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Speaker 4: my pick of the Jags, but I want to see

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Speaker 4: those things working right Unison.

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Speaker 1: But it's weird. The running game, you're right, has after

476
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Speaker 1: a great start has been mostly Mia, but two weeks

477
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Speaker 1: ago it lit up like they were awesome. And I

478
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Speaker 1: do on Etn and Tooton are a good combos. So

479
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Speaker 1: you just don't know what you're gonna get from a

480
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Speaker 1: week two week basis with this team. But they're a

481
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Speaker 1: team in Jacksonville that can can look across the field

482
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Speaker 1: at the Colts and they can say this team has

483
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Speaker 1: been on the field or it's around one hundred and

484
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Speaker 1: sixty five snaps the last two weeks. That is outrageous.

485
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Speaker 1: First of all, they just be tired. I mean that's

486
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Speaker 1: just a lot. Second of all, it shows a team

487
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Speaker 1: that just can't get off the field, that's just giving

488
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Speaker 1: up third down after third down, short yardage situations. And

489
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Speaker 1: think that's the way to beat the Colts because I

490
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Speaker 1: think it's been effective against them the last couple of weeks,

491
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Speaker 1: where you know, Daniel Jones, they'll have a three and

492
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Speaker 1: out or two and suddenly it's like that's the whole half.

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Speaker 1: You cannot get the ball back for this Colts team.

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Speaker 3: That's a great point.

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Speaker 2: That that's a great point because you saw it get Houston,

496
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Speaker 2: I mean Houston, and they weren't third down so many times,

497
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Speaker 2: and whether they ran it, whether Stroud did something with it,

498
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Speaker 2: they made the play, which is so defeatist to a

499
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Speaker 2: defense like man, we had him, We had him again

500
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Speaker 2: here again, especially the guys up front. You know, we're

501
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Speaker 2: getting you know, pounded on layout two Loatzi's playing well,

502
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Speaker 2: but you know, you saw so many tackles on third

503
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Speaker 2: down that were followed by this, you know, the first

504
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Speaker 2: down signal, you know that stuff. But I think this

505
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Speaker 2: is gonna be a really good game because it is

506
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Speaker 2: a must get for the Colts because their schedule is

507
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Speaker 2: no joke.

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Speaker 1: The defensive players. If I was trying to think, like,

509
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Speaker 1: what can we count on for the Jacks, their defense

510
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Speaker 1: has been playing better lately. It's been up and down

511
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Speaker 1: throughout the course season. But Josh heinz Allen and Devin

512
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Speaker 1: Lloyd are playing really well.

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Speaker 3: Lloyd coming back helps set the table.

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Speaker 1: For Yeah, he's really helped them and hinds Auen the

515
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Speaker 1: last two weeks combine eighteen pressures.

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Speaker 3: That's a season.

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Speaker 1: That's a crazy what two weeks with a couple with

518
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Speaker 1: three sacks and a couple more quarterback hits like mixed in.

519
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Speaker 1: It's not just it's not just hurries. The Jaguars were

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Speaker 1: down a couple offensive linemen in that game. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the practice report on Wednesday, and uh, it looks

522
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Speaker 1: like Walker Little, their left tackle is out. Patrick McCarry

523
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Speaker 1: is on the field, so that would be good to

524
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Speaker 1: get one guy back. He's in a non Contactors eat.

525
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Speaker 1: Parker Washington is out and you mentioned that Myers fifty

526
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Speaker 1: yard catch. You know what, I cut my eye on

527
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Speaker 1: that one. How about Brian Thomas Junior sprinting down the

528
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Speaker 1: field to get a great block. He's back on the

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Speaker 1: field and he's playing hard. I think it's a matter

530
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Speaker 1: of time before he has some some big moments too.

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Speaker 1: I know it's been a quiet season, but I like

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Speaker 1: I like Brian Thomas.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, those so others can elevate you, especially if

534
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Speaker 2: they play in your position.

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Speaker 3: Group.

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Speaker 1: Man, Colt's gotta win this game out, they have to

537
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Speaker 1: win this game.

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Speaker 3: Nervous I'm telling their schedules.

539
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have been surprising us all year, and both these

540
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Speaker 1: teams are great stories. They're both eight and four. We

541
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Speaker 1: would have never expected that. But that's the problem of

542
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: winning early. It raises the expectations. And that's what we

543
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Speaker 1: did on this show. We won early with Steve White. Yeah,

544
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Speaker 1: just a you know, just a been beautiful part of

545
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Speaker 1: the show with Steve Wish. This time we're gonna say

546
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Speaker 1: goodbye to you. Appreciate you having me, but we loved

547
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Speaker 1: having you. Patrick and I are going to talk about

548
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Speaker 1: the rest of these early games, and I can't wait.

549
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: One of the best teams in the NFL, Seattle Seahawks,

550
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Speaker 1: after the break back on NFL Daily, said goodbye to

551
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Speaker 1: our great friend Steve Weisch. Another big time segment with

552
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Speaker 1: Patrick Clayback, and then the afternoon games. In the primetime games,

553
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Speaker 1: we got Bill Barnwell coming up. It's a cast of

554
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: thousands on this previous show.

555
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Speaker 3: It's there's quality individuals on this show.

556
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Speaker 4: And me, now, I think that's that's a fun note,

557
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Speaker 4: the fun personal note.

558
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Speaker 1: Where this is where I need you to shine because

559
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Speaker 1: the back half of the early games not as shiny

560
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Speaker 1: as they may have looked back in September.

561
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Speaker 4: You know, the the sheen is coming off of the

562
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 4: gleaming armor. It is my shield robot status. So I

563
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 4: will cape for every single games, including Kirk Cousins at

564
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 4: home where the Seattle Seahawks are a seven point favorite

565
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Speaker 4: the over under his forty four and a half. Kevin

566
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Speaker 4: Coogler and Moose Johnston on the call. We saw Kirk

567
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Speaker 4: having a lot of success in the short passing game

568
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Speaker 4: against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow are their.

570
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Speaker 3: Yards available against the Seahawks defense.

571
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Speaker 1: Greg, Look, these first few games actually in this section

572
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Speaker 1: are important because Seattle's got to keep winning to keep

573
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Speaker 1: up with the Rams. And one thing, you know, when

574
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about like big picture Seattle is not

575
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Speaker 1: only have they taken care of all these games, they

576
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Speaker 1: haven't been close usually Like that is one of my

577
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Speaker 1: definitions of a truly great team, Like they don't even

578
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Speaker 1: make you sweat it. Minnesota last week obviously was an example.

579
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Speaker 1: But if you look in all these games where they

580
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Speaker 1: were significantly favored, it's a rare one where they even

581
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Speaker 1: had to sweat out the fourth quarter. So I think about, like,

582
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Speaker 1: what do they need to work on. I don't think

583
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is going to be munch problems for the defense.

584
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Speaker 1: It's more about the offense that's a tougher matchup. Can

585
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Speaker 1: we get another Sam darnaldin Can we get back to

586
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: the guy that in this very studio Patrick, We awarded

587
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Speaker 1: him the first half of the season MVP just for

588
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: his play.

589
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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean you go, and he earned it.

590
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Speaker 4: Do you look at those first ten weeks of the season, Yeah,

591
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 4: it was legitimate. You you start in the Rams game

592
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Speaker 4: and you go back to that point where you've got

593
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Speaker 4: four interceptions two touchdowns through the air over these past

594
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Speaker 4: few games, and now it's you know, we wanted we

595
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 4: were at the point where Jackson Smith and Jigba was

596
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Speaker 4: well in the conversation, but because.

597
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Speaker 1: He's still there, he's still there. There one bad week

598
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: and that wasn't his fault doesn't kill.

599
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Speaker 3: But that's the thing. One bad week when we've got

600
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Speaker 3: when we got.

601
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Speaker 4: This Drake made situation going on is rough, at least

602
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Speaker 4: in terms of my model in that conversation. But now

603
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Speaker 4: it's a matchup against a J Turrell who's one of

604
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Speaker 4: the best in the league win target in terms of

605
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Speaker 4: yards per target allowed. So if we're gonna snap out

606
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Speaker 4: of the dulgrums of whatever this is going on for

607
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: the Seahawks passing game, this will be the one that

608
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Speaker 4: shows the people, Hey, everything's.

609
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Speaker 1: Okay, and I don't think anything's overly wrong. Like I

610
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: say a lot, it's often about the schedule. He played

611
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Speaker 1: two of the best defense in the league and this

612
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: is what happened. But I did find it interesting that

613
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Speaker 1: Brian Flores said before that game, We're gonna blitz the

614
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: hell out of them, like that's what we do. But

615
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Speaker 1: we're gonna really do it against Sam Darnald, and they

616
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Speaker 1: did sixty three percent. They blitzed against him. And that's

617
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Speaker 1: a guy who knows Sam Donald as well as anyone

618
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Speaker 1: having coached with him, and Atlanta is a team built

619
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Speaker 1: to possibly do that, So I think it's a tricky matchup.

620
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Speaker 1: The Falcons defense actually played for the most part pretty

621
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Speaker 1: well against the Jets. I know they have been great,

622
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Speaker 1: but they've been very good all season. And I do

623
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Speaker 1: want to see that Seattle running game keep it going too,

624
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Speaker 1: because I made a play on this show. I don't

625
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Speaker 1: know if you remember this, there was a drive I'll

626
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Speaker 1: remember get the Cardinals, Yeah, and I said, this is

627
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: the drive that maybe turned around their running game for

628
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Speaker 1: the season. So this morning I went and checked. Since

629
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Speaker 1: that game, they are top ten in EPA per play

630
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: and success rate nin ninth tenth and those two stats,

631
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Speaker 1: So maybe that drive really did turn around. They've been

632
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: a little more consistent with our guy, Ken Walker. There's

633
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Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch.

634
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Speaker 4: I'm glad me giving you grief after the disaster against

635
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: the Rams for the Seahawks run game, where it has

636
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: caused you to go back into that because you didn't

637
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 4: even remember, but.

638
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Speaker 1: I don't remember where he said.

639
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: No, I was right, I was right and Patrick was wrong.

640
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Do you remember the show as well, because Jordan will

641
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: like say, oh, I said this then or you said

642
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: that then, And I only just let it all wash

643
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Speaker 1: over me in the moment.

644
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Speaker 4: I guess I only remember when we disagree. That's the

645
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Speaker 4: only time I remember that, you.

646
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Speaker 1: Know, small, because hard to disagree on this one. Yeah, no, opidly.

647
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: We're in lockstep. Yeah, let's let's see.

648
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: Let's get the Kirk Cousins game because it did not

649
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 4: necessarily happen against the New Orleans Saints a couple of

650
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Speaker 4: weeks ago. Now did New Orleans Saints are on the

651
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: road against Baker and the Bucks. The Bucks are favored

652
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Speaker 4: by eight and a half. Kevin Harlan and Trent Green

653
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: are on the call. They opened Mike Evans twenty one

654
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Speaker 4: day practice window.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Not sure if we're gonna get Mike back in this one,

657
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Speaker 4: but there were some late flashes from Tyler Schuck in

658
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Speaker 4: these Cardiac Saints enough to scare Baker and company.

659
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Speaker 1: Correct they could. This Tampa team is so confusing. They

660
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Speaker 1: have won four out of their seven games. In those games,

661
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Speaker 1: they've been out gained. Okay, they have been outscored this

662
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: year by twenty two points. They are not a profile

663
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Speaker 1: of a team that's normally seven to five. And yet

664
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Speaker 1: Mike Evans coming back, Jalen McMillan coming back, maybe end

665
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Speaker 1: of the season, Elijah Knty could be coming back. They

666
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: already got Hassan Reddick back, and yet last week it

667
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: was another one of those games. When I went back

668
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Speaker 1: to rewatch, it was just like, what is this team?

669
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Speaker 1: It was great to see Bucky Irving, he really helps

670
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Speaker 1: him out, but it's another game where you know, the

671
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: Cardinals outgained him by about one hundred yards, and there

672
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: were like a lot of things too, like I think

673
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: there's a possibility that this Bucks team, and they've actually

674
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: done this a few times, are considerably better and that

675
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: they're the team that we thought they would be all

676
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: season in the playoffs when it matters, which is what

677
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: you want if you're the Bucks. That they've kind of

678
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: gotten lucky to get this far, and yet none of

679
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: it might matter because they're scheduled. The rest of the

680
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: way is a lot of games where they would be

681
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Speaker 1: heavily favored. They're getting healthier and maybe they kind of

682
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Speaker 1: crank it up at the last second, and they're still

683
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Speaker 1: right in the mix.

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Speaker 4: The one place that's most concerning though about the health

685
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: status is Baker Mayfield and that left shoulder. I can't

686
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: help but think about the torn labram and his left

687
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: shoulder that almost ended his career because for some reason,

688
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 4: the Browns kept running him out there when he was hurt,

689
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: and then the opportunities were limited. After that, He's been

690
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 4: scrambling at a career high rate.

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Speaker 3: Look good.

692
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Speaker 1: Last week. I thought he moved around.

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Speaker 3: It's worth moved around. Well.

694
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Speaker 4: I know folks are concerned about Abuka. Buka's got one

695
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Speaker 4: of the lowest catchable target during this rough game stretch

696
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Speaker 4: for him, and I know people credit that to this

697
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 4: alleged rookie wall and all these things. Now, Baker kind

698
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: of has started spraying the ball a little bit at

699
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Speaker 4: least when it comes to targeting too. And when Abuka

700
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Speaker 4: is clear and far away the number one option, you

701
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Speaker 4: know he's going to get attention paid to him where

702
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Speaker 4: you know this will be the third game back for

703
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Speaker 4: Chris Godwin. And yeah, the Saints aren't necessarily a problem,

704
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Speaker 4: but to get through and do what you said, the

705
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Speaker 4: Seattle Seahawks have been doing to win a game in

706
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Speaker 4: a convincing fashion where it's not there's no come from

707
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Speaker 4: behind necessary against the Saints.

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Speaker 3: I think that would make all of us feel better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bucks are favored by eight and a half

710
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Speaker 1: in this game. I mean they shouldn't be favored over

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Speaker 1: by eight and a half. Ever, I don't think right now,

712
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: but offensive line like they look good. They have one

713
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Speaker 1: replacement still in there in Dan Feeney, who didn't play

714
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Speaker 1: too well last week. But it wasn't just that Chris

715
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Speaker 1: Godwin is back, because early in this I don't think

716
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: he looked right. The first game back, we didn't really

717
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: see much last week. I saw a little bit of pop.

718
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Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of the old Chris Godwin

719
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Speaker 1: with some yak. I thought Baker, for what it's worth,

720
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Speaker 1: moved around well and probably had a better game overall

721
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Speaker 1: than he did the week before when he first suffered

722
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Speaker 1: that injury. And Yeah, the Saints don't do a lot

723
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Speaker 1: that like really confuses you. Shout out to our podcast colleague. Though,

724
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Speaker 1: Kim Jordan two more sacks last week. I was annoyed

725
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Speaker 1: that I didn't mention that on the recapture he's up

726
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Speaker 1: to six and a half. I think like he's starting

727
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Speaker 1: to put up numbers where in the end there's gonna

728
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Speaker 1: be a good conversation about him going to Canton, and

729
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Speaker 1: I think that's meaningful. Yeah to anyone we.

730
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Speaker 3: Get to we pass one, okay, right, that was the number.

731
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Speaker 4: Right, So yeah, we like nice concise numbers in terms

732
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Speaker 4: of evaluation for career awards and that that means something.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I did want to talk about Chuck for a second. Yeah,

734
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Speaker 1: because I.

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Speaker 3: Have the let's have the time.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't watched the mask closely until this, you know,

737
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: the previous week. Last week, I did. You know, he's

738
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Speaker 1: a little better like pocket presence and a little more

739
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: playmaking than I expected, a little more excitement out of

740
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: the Shuckster. Whereas when you watched him in college, I

741
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: felt like when pressure was near him, he'd kind of panic,

742
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: and he had had so many injuries it almost seemed

743
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: like he was just trying to get to the NFL draft.

744
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just putting thoughts into his head.

745
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: That's probably not fair. But he's been pretty good against pressure,

746
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: at least he was last week. The numbers have been

747
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: up and down, but last week he made a lot

748
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: of plays and he's doing enough so far where I

749
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: think he's getting to where Spencer Rattler was, which is like, oh,

750
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: I think this guy's going to have a career. He's

751
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: going to be an NFL quarterback. Now, is he like

752
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: a high level backup? Is he a bridge quarterback? Is

753
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: he better than that? Obviously the Saints would hope he's

754
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: better than that, but like it kind of feels like

755
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: worst case scenario. Now he's like a good backup quarterback,

756
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: which is not bad like to have, and so you're

757
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: building from there. He could make it difficult for them

758
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: to decide what to do in the draft.

759
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Speaker 4: Yeah, to be fair to him, because that was and

760
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: looking back in hindsight, it's probably unfair to say, oh, well,

761
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 4: shuck out all these clean pockets to throw throm everybody

762
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: would love to play in this offense. Well it he

763
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 4: wasn't in those situations. So why am I dging him

764
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 4: for situations that he wasn't in? And now that he's

765
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 4: in him, you know, he's surviving those bullets in.

766
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Speaker 1: There pretty good test. This week, He's had a relatively

767
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: soft schedule. You get, you face all the blitz is

768
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: this is a new challen It's a small sample site.

769
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Speaker 1: I don't want to go too crazy, but so far

770
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Speaker 1: I was a doubter, and I would say I think

771
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: he's been a little higher than expectations. So I'm watching

772
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Speaker 1: you Tyler show. Oh I'm joining you.

773
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Speaker 4: Greg's got your eye on Tyler. So congratulations on that.

774
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: That and it's up is an accomplishment. What about an

775
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: accomplishment at quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings for perhaps JJ McCarthy.

776
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 4: His Vikings are favored by one and a half points,

777
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Speaker 4: with the Washington Commanders coming in still questioning the availability

778
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: on their offensive side of the ball, Adam I mean

779
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: and Drew Brees on the call. The commanders gave the

780
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: Broncos every single thing they had, including extra time? Are

781
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: are they Should you be looking at that one and

782
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 4: a half a little bit sideways?

783
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: Greg?

784
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: In which way that the Commanders should be favored?

785
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Speaker 4: You know, considering the way things went against the Denver Broncos.

786
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: I'm starting to believe.

787
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Speaker 1: There is a case to be made, based on an

788
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: extremely small sample size, that dan Quinn has helped out

789
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: the defense in terms of the play calling. They've been

790
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: certainly more competitive. The two weeks that he called plays.

791
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: The offense has been fine throughout. You know, I want

792
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: to see if Jayden Daniels is playing in this game.

793
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: We don't know as of now, but yeah, the Vikings

794
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: are not a team that probably should be favored over anyone.

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Speaker 4: Just about I do think because the Brosmer experience, for

796
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: better or worse, at least people have an answer for

797
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: as of right now, this idea that you know, I'd.

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Speaker 1: Like to see one more Brozner game. I'm serious. It

799
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: was a tough situation you first started against Seattle before

800
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: saying we have an answer. But yeah, I wasn't expecting

801
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: him to be like, way better than JJ McCarthy or anything.

802
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: But you know, if we're going to be fair about

803
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: sample sizes, you know, he only played one game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm with Greg.

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Speaker 4: Let's let's let's just let's have more this snuff film

806
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: that was the Max Rosber experiencing against the Seattle Seahawks,

807
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 4: where yeah, I think you know, I'm not going to

808
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: say dan Quinn has completely fixed the circumstances over there

809
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: on that defensive side of the ball, but I would

810
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: feel better for the for the opportunity for JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 4: at the very least to feed targets to Justin Jefferson

812
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: in a way where last week when the targets were there,

813
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 4: it was an adventure. Even there was legitimately one rap

814
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: where JJ felt like he was questioning whether or not

815
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: the ball was actually going to get to him. Yeah,

816
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: and folks were wondering about his effort because it was

817
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: so scattershot. Where you know, for the sake of Vikings fans, Greg, yeah,

818
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 4: let's get Max Brozmer in a better situation.

819
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Speaker 3: But JJ McCarthy is, yeah, that's fair.

820
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Speaker 1: And having a week off maybe that calms his mind

821
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Certainly the matchups shouldn't be as tough

822
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Speaker 1: in general. I did want to get this quote right,

823
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: and that's what I was searching for, and it was

824
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Speaker 1: on hard knocks in the locker room. Have you seen

825
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: this after the game and Dan Quinn says, we may

826
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Speaker 1: have lost, but we are no longer lost. Wow, that's

827
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Speaker 1: pretty good. But we're not lost anymore. That was the

828
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Speaker 1: quote again. He was this is a team that's been

829
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: a drift all season. They're not lost anymore. They're going

830
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: to be rallying to the home stretch. Maybe Jayden Daniels

831
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Speaker 1: by the way, not you know, taking any contact practice anyways.

832
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: You would expect him to wear a non on contact jersey.

833
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: They'll determine his status on Friday. He is practicing. Just

834
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: my gut, based on how they're talking, I think it's

835
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: going to be another week. I do think he's gonna

836
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: place multiple games this season. I don't. I don't think

837
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Speaker 1: it's going to be this week. But that's just my guess.

838
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Speaker 4: I have a huge question about this game before we go. Okay,

839
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 4: Jeremy McNichols has the second best yards per carry average

840
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Speaker 4: in the entire NFL right now.

841
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 3: He's over six and a half yards.

842
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 4: Why do they not give Jeremy mcnicholls more opportunities when

843
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: he's running the ball.

844
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Speaker 1: He's not maybe like as like rugged runner as Chris Rodriguez.

845
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez is good. I mean, they're all pretty good.

846
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: He's not an every down guy.

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00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's definitely not if you don't give

848
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: him a ball that I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I would like to see it, Cliff, I would like

850
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Speaker 4: to see it, That's all I'll say.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's see more Jeremy mcnicholl.

852
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's keep it rolling.

853
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

854
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 4: Another running back who has huge numbers is Devon ah

855
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Speaker 4: Chan and his Miami Dolphins, who have a path. Greg,

856
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: As you said famously a few weeks ago, the path

857
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: is still there, although this becomes less likely. Two and

858
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: a half point favorites against the Rod Taylor and the Jets,

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00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: the over under forty one and a half Bureaudidas and

860
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: Adam Archiletta. It has been ad Ni Mitchell. Greg you

861
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: called that the explosiveness. Does that power the Jets for

862
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 4: another win? For ag against the adult.

863
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Speaker 1: I kind of think it will. Who are you going

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867
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Speaker 1: impossible and defeat the computer model of Cynthia Freeland. Right now,

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Speaker 1: he's winning.

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Speaker 3: Eventually on the show with three people.

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Speaker 4: Eventually, I would have had one chance over the course

871
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: of these past few seasons, and so we're here.

872
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: This is this.

873
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to take the Jets. They've been

874
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: playing well lately.

875
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: They have been playing well.

876
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: I am scared to death by the hot air balloon

877
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 4: that Tua tongue Baila threw the Jayalen waddle last week.

878
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: Perhaps you know the ball slipped out of his hands.

879
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that one piece of tape. I'm

880
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 4: I'm still picking the fence here because I think the

881
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 4: run game with a chance specifically allows them more explosive opportunity.

882
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 4: But you know, the tailor experience is back. I'm glad

883
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: to Rod is back playing. He's made the Jets better

884
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 4: and he's given hope like long term viability to add.

885
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 1: That Mitchell right, Adie Mitchell always looked like a talented player.

886
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, we Love You, Like Subscribe,

887
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: do it All, and you're seeing Adie Mitchell get open

888
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: down the field, He's probably gonna be a guy that

889
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: has his Sara dropped and I don't know what the

890
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: other issues were, but he, you know, is becoming a pro.

891
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 1: He's a young guy. I think that's gonna go down

892
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: as a big part of that trade. I don't think

893
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: he's going to be a number one, but I think

894
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: he's going to be a starting caliber. He's clearly the

895
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: most talented receiver on this roster. When Garrett Wilson is hurt,

896
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: which has been the case for most of this season,

897
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: and it does make it a dangerous game for my

898
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: vision of the Dolphins coming back. The problem with that

899
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: vision is everyone in the AFC keeps winning. You know

900
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: that the idea was, Okay, they're going to be six

901
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: and seven, they could be they could have a game

902
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: where they have a chance to pass the Steelers. Was

903
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: the vision a month ago that all is going to happen.

904
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: But passing the Steelers might be for tenth place in

905
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: the AFC. So I don't think it really is going

906
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: to make any difference. And I don't trust this Dolphins

907
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: team in particular. I don't get the arguments that I've

908
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: seen out there of like, I don't know, like McDaniel

909
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: is kind of making the case for why he should

910
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: be back. Why because they're doing the same thing that

911
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: they would have done anyways, but just in a different order.

912
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: I hate that, well, Greg famously, Yeah, the end of

913
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: the season is more important than the start of the season.

914
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 4: And now the Dolphins were winning, so that logic would

915
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: say that Mike Max's doing great, he should be brought

916
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: back because this is when it means more.

917
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: You know how the everyone's been noting that the Patriots

918
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: have one of the easiest schedules in NFL history. The

919
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: Dolphins and the Jets' schedules aren't that much harder. So

920
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: if you get to seven or eight wins in year

921
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: four of your program with one of the easiest schedules

922
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: and you don't even get your over underwin total, they

923
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: were expected to be decent. They weren't eight and a

924
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: half before the season. I'm not giving you any credit

925
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: that happened at the end of the season. I do like, though,

926
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: Chop Robinson, who had a total of one sack and

927
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: quarterback hit combined going into last week, at one of each.

928
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: It was very active throughout the rest of the game.

929
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: And Devon h Chan I noticed fourteen hundred yards from

930
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: scrimmage right now, two hundred and forty touches. He is

931
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: a Bell Coow type of guy if you count the receptions,

932
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns and his ability to like skip forward while

933
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: he's he just like skips on an NFL field while

934
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: everyone else looks slow around him. All my doubts of

935
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Devon eh Chan have been proven stupid.

936
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 4: And yes, that dude, and thank you for attaching the

937
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 4: bellcal to a smaller yeah, because you know the smaller

938
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: guys don't get bell coal.

939
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: But if you get over three hundred touches your bellcoal,

940
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: I think they can win this game. The New York Jets.

941
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 3: That is all right, a fun matchup.

942
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 4: What about a fun matchup that we were previewing back

943
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 4: in the draft and we thought Shador Sanders was gonna

944
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 4: go significantly higher. And it's a matchup of two quarterbacks

945
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 4: that really built their relationship during that draft process. It

946
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 4: is Shador Sanders playing host to cam Ward and the

947
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans, and the Browns are favored Greg by four

948
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 4: and a half points. Chris Myers and Mark Larat on

949
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 4: the call. The thing that everybody should be watching because

950
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks are going to get a lot of attention here.

951
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: You should.

952
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett is getting close to this record Greg. He

953
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: may get significantly closer this week.

954
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: This is a huge week for him. I think to

955
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: go get it because cam Ward holds onto the ball.

956
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: J C.

957
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Latham has not played particularly well this year in general.

958
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: The Titans offensive line, whether you want to go on

959
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: the interior, there's an injury at center as well, you know,

960
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: and they move him inside. Sometimes this is a time

961
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: to go back up some numbers because what I don't

962
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: want is going into the last week or two and

963
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: he like needs one more. It's hard the other team

964
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: doesn't want to. You're not gonna have Brett Favre laying

965
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: down for you. This is, by the way, the all

966
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: time Chris Meyer's mark player. At the game, Titans Browns

967
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: combine four wins. That's where it's at. Oh, I'm taking shots.

968
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Did you see Deshaun Watson is practicing. They opened up

969
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: his twenty one day practice window. If in case you

970
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: wanted to feel worse about this Brown season, I would

971
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: be stunned if he played football this year on you know,

972
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: in a regular season game. I would be very surprised

973
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: if he was even on the active roster. I think

974
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: what they're doing is letting him practice and kind of

975
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: continue his development and reward him for what Kevin Stefanski

976
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: said has been a great attitude and doing everything that

977
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: they want. But he's just practicing just to practice. I

978
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: would be beyond shot if they let Deshaun Watson play football.

979
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: Do you the Browns do you feel.

980
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 4: That Deshaun Watson should have been playing like just purely

981
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 4: football wise.

982
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: These past two seasons? Well, no, exactly so I would.

983
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 4: I would not be shocked if the Cleveland Browns put

984
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson.

985
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: We're in a different place because because.

986
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 4: They've been doing it for no reason from my perspective,

987
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: So what am I why? Why would I expect them

988
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 4: to behave rationally? You're in twenty twenty.

989
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: Five, there's just no point, like, what is he going

990
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: to do? Be the backup over Dylan? No?

991
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: If you're making sense to me, yeah, yeah, like that

992
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: makes sense to me.

993
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 4: But considering what we've seen from the franchise and the

994
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 4: decision makers involved, I don't know.

995
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: I would not be shocked.

996
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: I also would be shocked if Kevin Stefanski is back

997
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: next year. So I don't know if the decision makers

998
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: that are involved will be making these decisions. To me,

999
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: the ownership is most important out of this entire group,

1000
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: and the Titans should count their blessings by the way

1001
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: that they are not chasing what that poor Browns did

1002
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: last decade. You remember the one game that the Titans won. Yeah,

1003
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: it's the flukiest game in the history of the NFL.

1004
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: I have never seen a flukier ending to an NFL

1005
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: game than that Titans game, and they have not been

1006
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: that competitive. It's not like, oh, well, yeah, they almost

1007
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: won this game and almost won that game. They are

1008
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: like there is this idea the Raiders are worse. I've

1009
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: kind of thrown that out there, but like they're one

1010
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: of the worst teams ever. The one game that they've

1011
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: ever won that they won was the luckiest game ever.

1012
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: And if you look at DVA overall efficiency, there's a

1013
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: pretty big gap between them and thirty one on the list,

1014
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: Like four and a half might not be enough, like

1015
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: the brown I like the Browns to cover this.

1016
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 4: I got to assemble a list of the luckiest games

1017
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: ever so so that we can defeat this theory from Greg.

1018
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: It was a crazy it was. It was a crazy performance.

1019
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: You know what, I will say, Keyboard should bounce back

1020
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: because that was like his maybe his worst game of

1021
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: the season last year. Last week, it was off coming

1022
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 1: off of one of his best games of the season.

1023
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: It happens. And when you got Mike McCoy on the sideline,

1024
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: just the last guy I won as an interim head

1025
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: coachy to dig just like refuses to go for just

1026
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: there's no nothing there, there's nothing that's not what you

1027
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: want out of your interim head coach. He is a

1028
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: fill in, and I would never call Barnwell that, but

1029
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: this is a week where we've got different personnel in

1030
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: the mix and so we decided to take advantage of

1031
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: a friend do a little home and home. So we're

1032
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: going to say goodbye to Patrick right now. We thank

1033
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: Steve Weisch for his excellent contributions and I want you

1034
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: to check out the show with Bill Barnwell hitting all

1035
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: the late games, great primetime games. We will see them