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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hamort Territory Podcast

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Speaker 1: presented by Fox One. I'm your host, Brad Rowland. It

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Speaker 1: is episode two eighty seven, and I'm joined as I

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Speaker 1: almost always am, by Scott Fueman. Scott's Thursday Night. No

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Speaker 1: huge news, but hey, there's a World Series to preview.

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Speaker 1: There's stuff to talk about on this podcast. How are

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Speaker 1: you my friend?

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Speaker 2: Hello Brad. It is good to be with you again.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because the World Series begins Friday. Usually

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball prefers that teams do not announce big

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Speaker 2: news during the World Series. Now, if there's a couple

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Speaker 2: of off days in there, I you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Rob Manfred would come to mac Alex and

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Speaker 2: Thoughtless's hand if the Braves order renounced something on an

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Speaker 2: off day, But in general they prefer not to have

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Speaker 2: it overlap with the World Series. We will see what

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Speaker 2: the next you know, five to ten days hold. But

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Speaker 2: we are getting closer and closer to the off season

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Speaker 2: officially being here.

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Speaker 1: We certainly are, and there's plenty to discuss on the

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Speaker 1: pod today. I will say at the top, we don't

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Speaker 1: the world series in its entirety. We're we're done right

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Speaker 1: in scott So you just said it. You're right. The

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Speaker 1: news filter is probably towards the opposition, we would guess

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Speaker 1: right now, but hey, nothing's officially about that's not that's

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Speaker 1: not one of those rules. That's like on the books.

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Speaker 1: Teams tend to listen to that, but then have to necessarily.

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Speaker 1: And I say that because our lead topic is for

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Speaker 1: at least the third time, fourth time, fifth time maybe

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Speaker 1: is the Braves managerial search. And it's because we got

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Speaker 1: a little bit more reporting all of a sudden. It's

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Speaker 1: not only news, it's more reporting kind of out there

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Speaker 1: from Mark Bowman dot com. Rush for a long time

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Speaker 1: certainly has sources around and he kind of put forth

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Speaker 1: a pretty interesting article people should be reading. I think

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Speaker 1: it came on Wednesday, and he kind of highlighted three names.

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Speaker 1: He didn't declare them finalists, but he was kind of like, hey,

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Speaker 1: some other names. So I'll go to you first, Scott.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit offline as well.

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Speaker 1: But what was your like biggest takeaway from what Mark rope?

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Speaker 1: Because I think it was basically it's one of those

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Speaker 1: Which I thought was almost more interesting to me. But

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Speaker 1: what did you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's start with just I think probably the

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Speaker 2: that David Ross is not a serious candidate. Well Weiss

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Speaker 2: not a strong candidate. Of course, that trio, I think, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, five minutes after Brian Snicker announced that he

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Speaker 2: with the organization. But Bowman said pretty definitively that that

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Speaker 2: trio of Deurosa, Ross and Weiss are not really finalists

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Speaker 2: at this point. Maybe they got an interview. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: But my big takeaway from Bowman's article, and again just

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Speaker 2: he believes for the job. One of them is Danny Lahman,

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Speaker 2: the current Dodgers bench coach. One of them is Ryan Flaherty,

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Speaker 2: the Braves in twenty eighteen. And the third finalist is

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Speaker 2: a person we've talked about a bit on the show

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Speaker 2: in the past, is George Lombard, who is the current

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Speaker 2: big takeaway, Brad, if that is the final three that

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Speaker 2: for any of those three. We'll talk about why. But

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Speaker 2: I guess if you asked me a month ago what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that, and I think Bowman also

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Speaker 1: in that Bowman piece, And I think it makes sense,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So Danny Layman is, as we said, the current

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Speaker 2: and the Braves will not announce that higher until after

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Speaker 2: So that's where Alex knows Layman and Bowman did mention

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and clearly qualified, like he is young, he's only forty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's wrong, but yeah, that holds no water with me.

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Speaker 2: I don't really care. Everybody's a new manager at some point.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. So that's Laman.

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Speaker 1: You know, Flarity more conventional because of course he was

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Speaker 1: Actually went and worked for Craig Council, so much more

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Speaker 1: you already said all three of the guys. What kind

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Speaker 1: of makes sense to me? Flerity is more conventional on paper,

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Speaker 2: And I mean, Brad, if you said blindly I could

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Speaker 1: And there's a hook to that. I'm not just picking

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Speaker 1: Matt Olson out of thin air. Matt Olsen won the

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to hammerd Territory presented by Fox one, and

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Speaker 1: we just talked about my Olsen I tease some more

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Speaker 1: award miss. This is gonna be quick, But Austin Riley

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Speaker 1: got a Silver Slugger finalist not at third base, and

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Speaker 1: that is a bit of an odd one. I will say, uh, look,

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Speaker 1: Austin's been really good for a long time. So when

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Speaker 1: this is not pick on Austin segment he was a

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Speaker 1: star player for multiple seasons. But Austin Riley, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, everyone had this reaction. Everyone the same reaction,

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Speaker 1: like wait he Austin Riley? Like there were memes flying around.

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Speaker 1: I saw some of some pretty funny ones. But there

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Speaker 1: were also three players who got finalist nods at other positions,

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Speaker 1: not in the outfield. But they're almost like was there

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Speaker 1: a tie that there had to be a tie because

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Speaker 1: there's four third basemen for some reason, but they are Riley,

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Speaker 1: Manny Machado, Max Munsey, and Matt Chapman. And if you

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers, we won't go through all of them.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why a finalist nod. He had a

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Speaker 1: one of the three RC plus in one hundred and

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Speaker 1: two games, so he was he was just average and

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Speaker 1: he got hurt, and I don't know what that combination means.

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Speaker 1: One more thing for you, Scott, he wasn't top five

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Speaker 1: among third basement the National League and any of the

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Speaker 1: categories that would net you this award or even recognition

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Speaker 1: WC plus ops picker one, home runs, slugging, any of

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Speaker 1: those things. So I'm not trying to make fun of Austin,

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Speaker 1: but this is a weird one.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's like, why, I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, good for Austin. I hope for his sake,

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Speaker 2: maybe in his contract he has an incentive where he

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Speaker 2: gets like fifty grand if if he picks up a

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Speaker 2: Silver Slugger nomination and go buy his, you know, a friend,

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Speaker 2: a new truck or something like that.

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Speaker 1: But the Gray's Foundation would love that if that was

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Speaker 1: the case, one percent.

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Speaker 2: Give all dollars, give that one percent, that five hundred

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Speaker 2: bucks to the foundation. But yeah, I mean, it's sure

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Speaker 2: why not. Awards voting in baseball is funny. It was

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Speaker 2: a weird year at third base in the National League.

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Speaker 2: Like you, you know your older brother, first and third

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Speaker 2: base were just absolutely loaded with boppers and you know

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Speaker 2: it's changed a little bit over the years, But hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what I think. Uh, even Austin truth Zierum

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Speaker 2: would probably say he was a little surprised. But maybe

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Speaker 2: it's it's a five year running award or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm confident there was some you know, lifetime award,

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Speaker 1: lifetime recognition there for Austin getting. But I mean it

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Speaker 1: is worth at least noting third base was very down

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Speaker 1: in the National League. There wasn't anybody that had this

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Speaker 1: like crazy profile. They were better than Austin. But we'll

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Speaker 1: leave it there for now. That was kind of a

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Speaker 1: funny one. The other one worth matching on the awards

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Speaker 1: that quickly is that Nick Allen finished second at shortstop

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Speaker 1: and filling Bible Awards. Again, that's all Big League baseball.

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Speaker 1: He didn't win it, but he finished second in the

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Speaker 1: voting and also got I saw the voting today. He

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Speaker 1: got multiple first place votes, so he was pretty close

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Speaker 1: to winning. And another reminder, as we talked about last

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Speaker 1: week on the show, Nick Allen great defender, full stop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so eleag yeah, elite range, just really really really

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Speaker 2: good defensive shortstop. If Nick Allen could even hit just

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Speaker 2: a smidge, he would be a very, very very valuable

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Speaker 2: Major League shorts, but we saw I mean, he never

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Speaker 2: hit with Oakland, he did not hit with the Braves.

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Speaker 2: It was it was painful to watch, but hey, good

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Speaker 2: for Nick getting the recognition he deserves for his glove.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, this could be not a deep dive, but there

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Speaker 1: was a piece from Mark Feinesan of MLB dot com

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Speaker 1: that was making the rounds and it has to do

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Speaker 1: with free agency. So the world series we'll talk about

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Speaker 1: the second is not begun yet. The real fund does

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Speaker 1: not begin until after it's over. But we're starting to

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Speaker 1: get the slow drip of free agent previews and free

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Speaker 1: agent links like that. And just to say this out loud,

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Speaker 1: Mark was not reporting that the Braves were in on

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Speaker 1: any of these players. But the whole concept was here's

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Speaker 1: a list of free agents, and I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: you a few potential landing spots for all of these guys, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the whole framing. Read the piece, interesting piece or

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Speaker 1: does a good job. The Braves were listed as a

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Speaker 1: potential fit for four players on the list, and for me,

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Speaker 1: none of these are terribly surprising. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you have a different reaction than that I did. I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't agree with all four necessarily, but

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Speaker 1: they weren't surprising. So I'll just name them real quick

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Speaker 1: and we'll dive in one by one quickly. Bobachett was one,

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Speaker 1: Robert Suarez, the closer for the Padres, was one, Devid Williams,

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Speaker 1: the reliever for the Yankees was one, and then Jack Flaherty,

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Speaker 1: the Tigers starting pitcher, was one. That's the four guys.

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Speaker 1: Anybody surprised you and anybody that you disagree with out

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Speaker 1: of those four.

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Speaker 2: Nobody necessarily surprised me. I will say of the group

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Speaker 2: of Bishett, Suarez, Williams, and Flaherty, I mean, let's let's

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Speaker 2: just go one by one bare, let's do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Bobaschett for the We've said it before on the show,

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Speaker 2: but Bobachett defensively is not very good. That's being nice.

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Speaker 2: He is a terrible defensive.

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Speaker 1: He is not a short stop. It's the answer for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So I don't think the Braves are gonna

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Speaker 2: sign Boba sheet. The only world where I could see

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Speaker 2: it is if Bishett's market does not develop and he

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Speaker 2: ends up taking like a one year deal or a

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Speaker 2: one plus one deal or something like that, and every

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Speaker 2: now and then there is a free agency that gets

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Speaker 2: weird for a player. Everyone thinks he's gonna get a

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Speaker 2: six to seven year contract and then doesn't you know,

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Speaker 2: it just never materializes for him and he takes a

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Speaker 2: one year kind of like what Pete a Lonzo just

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Speaker 2: did a year ago. True, So I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 2: zero percent with Bashett, And I think if you could

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Speaker 2: get him on like a one year deal and Hassan

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Speaker 2: Kim's market goes elsewhere, I think you could live with

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Speaker 2: it because he can still really mash. I mean, he

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Speaker 2: can really hit for being a shortstop or even a

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Speaker 2: fake shortstop. But I mean that's kind of my take

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Speaker 2: on Bishett.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just to throw some numbers at you quickly,

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Speaker 1: I just double check this. Bashett was literally first percentile

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Speaker 1: and that's the bad direction in alz of A average

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Speaker 1: this year. It's stuf the worst than the league and

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Speaker 1: fang refs they have the overall defensive value metric. He

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Speaker 1: was dead last in the majors that short stop. So

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Speaker 1: it's not just our opinion like the numbers tell you

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Speaker 1: he was. He's not a shortstop at this point. And

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Speaker 1: go ahead, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Just say the only thing, and maybe the Braves sol differently,

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Speaker 2: But the only thing is that the turf in the

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Speaker 2: Roger Center in Toronto is notorious for being difficult, so

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Speaker 2: maybe they think getting off that turf would help. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna hurt.

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Speaker 1: But but the I mean the range, like, for instance,

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Speaker 1: out to my average, like his range is also like

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Speaker 1: terriblest that's that's that's not a that's not a turf thing.

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Speaker 1: Let's say I can't move the shortstop I am.

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Speaker 2: I am not campaigning for Bobashett.

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Speaker 1: I know you're not. I just wanted it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things where I think, if Bo Baschet's a Brave,

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Speaker 1: it's because something's happened with Ozzie or something and they

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Speaker 1: haven't played second base. But that's just that's down the

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Speaker 1: rabbit hole that we will have to go down today.

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Speaker 1: I get I but I also get why he's on

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Speaker 1: the list for the Braves, which is why I said

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Speaker 1: I was surprised, because if you just see shortstop and

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Speaker 1: where the Braves are with no shortstop on the roster

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Speaker 1: and so on, Kim's resolved, like obviously that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: The Braves are a prominent team with a NIVA short stop.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is. The other guys are all pitchers.

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Speaker 1: There's two relievers, right, Robert Suarez Devin Williams. They're both

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Speaker 1: Asua is gonna be thirty five soon. Like he was

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Speaker 1: really good with the Padres. Williams was not as good

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Speaker 1: results wise with the Yankees last year and got a

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Speaker 1: lot of heat with the Yankees because it's New York

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Speaker 1: media and his ERA wasn't very good. These guys are

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Speaker 1: both good, and I think, as discussed many times already

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Speaker 1: this offseason, the Braves could use another arm in the bullpen,

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Speaker 1: so pretty logical to me, and they'd be like to

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Speaker 1: either one of them.

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Speaker 2: You know, Devin Williams, the airbender. He had an ERA

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Speaker 2: in the fours and of course just did not go

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Speaker 2: super well with the Yankees in that market. But man alive,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Devin Williams is disgusting. I mean, his stuff

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Speaker 2: is nasty. If you look at his Baseball Savon and

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Speaker 2: Statcast pages, his pitches are still ranked among the very

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Speaker 2: best in the game. So maybe because he had inflated era,

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Speaker 2: Williams will have a more reasonable market and if the

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Speaker 2: Braves want to sign him to be the new closer,

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Speaker 2: all day Long for sure. And similarly with Robert Suarez,

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Speaker 2: the closer in San Diego, very very good, seventy six

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Speaker 2: saves the last two years in a two point eighty

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Speaker 2: seven era, throws hard, really lives off his fastball, which

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Speaker 2: is interesting for you know, a closer. But either of

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Speaker 2: those guys, if if the Braves move on from Rice Iglesias,

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Speaker 2: I would happily welcome either of them as the Braves

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Speaker 2: closer in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, two very logical guys to at least monster. Don't

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Speaker 1: they're going to do anything with those what they would

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Speaker 1: be very reasonable fits? Uh, Jack Flaherty, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to talk on it both sides of my mouth. I've

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Speaker 1: been consistent in saying the Braves should try to acquire

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Speaker 1: a quality starting pitcher. Yeah. I also don't love Jack

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Speaker 1: Flaherty and never have so. And also he has a

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars player option that you might actually pick

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Speaker 1: up anyway. So I don't know if my react I

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Speaker 1: could say this, my reaction would be to completely depending

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Speaker 1: on what the number was on Jack Flaherty, I think

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Speaker 1: he's fine. I don't think he's bad at all, Like

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Speaker 1: you would help the Braves but I also wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to give him a massive contract. So that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what it comes down to for me.

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Speaker 2: Joe Flarity, So what you just said a moment ago

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Speaker 2: is absolutely right. I don't the Braves have to add

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Speaker 2: a starting pitcher this offseason. I am confident it would

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Speaker 2: not be Flerty. For one reason, years ago, Flarity and

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Speaker 2: Ronald Cocunya Junior kind of chirped at each other, and

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Speaker 2: Clarity Flerty was talking some stuff in the media after

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Speaker 2: the game. This was in twenty nineteen, after the NLDS.

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Speaker 2: So for that reason, I'm not saying it's an absolute zero,

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Speaker 2: but I mean I'm putting it at like one percent

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Speaker 2: because I don't think Alexanthopolis would want to welcome that,

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Speaker 2: you know, fire and gasoline and fireworks that could happen.

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Speaker 2: There's gonna be plenty of other pictures out there better

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Speaker 2: than Jack Flaherty, who do not have a history of

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Speaker 2: kind of jawing with Acunya quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a little bit of reporting on the

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Speaker 1: Braves kicking the towers on Flarity when he was a

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Speaker 1: free agent last time when he wanted Detroit, But I

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Speaker 1: don't know how serious that ever got. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: it didn't get there, but there was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of something. We talked about it a little bit back then.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, comes out of the number. But I get

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Speaker 1: also all that aside him being on a list for

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Speaker 1: the Braves doesn't make sense like on a on a

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Speaker 1: national list. Hey, this guy's a free agent. Who would

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Speaker 1: he maybe fit with? The Braves are a team that

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Speaker 1: would make colladchical sense. They need to start a picture.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to be crazy expensive in the way.

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Speaker 1: The Braids wouldn't pay him if he wants to take

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Speaker 1: a short deal. All those things. So for names to

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Speaker 1: look at, we just wanted to highlight them. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean anything right now. It's even Mark Flats would would

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Speaker 1: certainly admit he was not reporting that any of these

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna be Braves in the future, but uh,

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Speaker 1: it's good internet fodder in October.

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Speaker 2: Every Yeah, every starting pitcher should at least be in

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Speaker 2: you know, a potential fit for the Braves. I think

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Speaker 2: they'll call on basically everyone and try to find that

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Speaker 2: perfect sweet spot of contract and dollars and or if

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Speaker 2: they want to go to trade route. There's there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of options. It seems like this offseason two at

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Speaker 2: a starter of some kind.

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott let us in a second do a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a world series preview and also mentioned

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Speaker 1: may him anyway. First though, it were from our partners

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, Welcome back to Hamrit's territory, presented by

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Speaker 1: Fox one and for you through the World Series. The

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Speaker 1: Braves did sign Austin Nola this week, brother of Aaron Nola.

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Speaker 1: Not as good as Aaron Nola though, unfortunately for the Braves,

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Speaker 1: but a minor league deal with much spree training for

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Speaker 1: the veteran catcher. Austin Nola was a good catcher a

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Speaker 1: few years ago, like a starting level catcher a couple

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Speaker 1: couple of different teams. But he'll be thirty six soon

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Speaker 1: and he has forty one Major league appearances over the

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Speaker 1: last two seasons combined, so a nay people recognize, and

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Speaker 1: obviously the Nola connection is why he kind of makes

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Speaker 1: some news. We won't talk about every single minor league

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Speaker 1: sign that they make this once here, but it was

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Speaker 1: just like, Okay, I've heard of that player, I know

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Speaker 1: who he is. I think if I had to guess

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Speaker 1: right now, he won't be on the team in April.

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Speaker 1: But anything else to add on.

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Speaker 2: That one, Yeah, I think because we do not know

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Speaker 2: what the future of Sean Murphy holds in terms of

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Speaker 2: just his recovery from the hip surgery or trade. But

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Speaker 2: I think just you don't know what Murphy's going to

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Speaker 2: be like in the spring. I think the expectation was

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Speaker 2: that he will be ready for most of spring training

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Speaker 2: and opening day. But on the chance he has a

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Speaker 2: setback or he needs to miss a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna need a veteran catcher to go with Drake

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Speaker 2: Baldwin for a couple of days. And sure, you know,

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Speaker 2: Sandy Leone, you have Austin Nola. I mean, they have

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Speaker 2: Chucky Robinson I think is still in the organization. I

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Speaker 2: mean there's some there's some options, but yeah, I mean ideally,

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Speaker 2: assuming they don't trade Murphy, I think you're gonna see

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Speaker 2: a lot of Baldwin and Murphy come twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and these this kind of player is very available.

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Speaker 1: Oh if you want another version of the Auston Ola,

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Speaker 1: you will sign that version of Austin all between now

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Speaker 1: and March. I'm much mon pick on him. It's just like,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is a he's very clearly like a

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Speaker 1: third organizational depth kind of catcher at this point. And

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Speaker 1: it's a name you knew. But there you go. Okay, Scott,

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Speaker 1: let's preve with the World Series quickly this that that'll

731
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Speaker 1: just for a PSA. If everyone wants to jump off,

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Speaker 1: you know you shouldn't. You should stay with us. But

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Speaker 1: no more braves talking on this podcast. Just warning, every

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Speaker 1: warning label quickly here. World series. It's the World Series.

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Speaker 1: Though we haven't been talking a ton of playoffs. It's

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Speaker 1: the World Series. It starts tomorrow, sue me. Also, our

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Speaker 1: friends at Fox one all joking aside, our friends at

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Speaker 1: Fox one have the entire series and much more big

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Speaker 1: doing kickoff NFL all that at Fox wont check them

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Speaker 1: out link in the show notes all those things. But

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Speaker 1: it begins Friday. It's if You've been under a Rock.

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Speaker 1: It's the Yankees. Yeah, it's the Blue Jays and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: I was reading a note about something else on our document.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter knew.

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Speaker 2: I always knew you were a New York Yankees guy, Brad.

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Speaker 1: If you're in my age and you're a Brace fan,

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Speaker 1: you don't like the Yankees, and I don't either. Jim

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Speaker 1: larretz Man, Jim Laretz. Moving on, Blue Jays Dodgers. Interesting

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Speaker 1: series in a lot of ways. It becomes Friday intern

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Speaker 1: By the way, the bluejes Is actually have home field

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Speaker 1: in the series, which is funny when you the way

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Speaker 1: the series is being perceived, and I think rightly so,

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Speaker 1: I say foreshadowing, the Dodgers are the favorites in the series,

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Speaker 1: but the Blue doesn't have home field in the series

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Speaker 1: because they had the better record this season. But it's

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Speaker 1: two three two. I don't love that format. I never have.

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Speaker 1: But two games in Toronto, three in La, two back

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Speaker 1: in Toronto. I'll ask you broadly, like, where are you

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Speaker 1: at with this? Because, like you know, the Dodgers are

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Speaker 1: a rival team for the Braves, You're You're also closer

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Speaker 1: to being out there. La is not too far from

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Speaker 1: you if you turn left from where you are in Arizona. Thoughts, feelings, anything.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts, feelings. I mean, with reason, the Dodgers are going

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Speaker 2: to be the favorites. They're healthy, they have a billion

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Speaker 2: dollar roster, they have luxury tax payments more than a

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Speaker 2: lot of teams entire payrolls. I mean, it's it's crazy

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Speaker 2: to me, but I could go on a twenty minute

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Speaker 2: rant about the current financial state of Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 1: So please do. I'll just log off right now. I'll

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Speaker 1: just beat my microphone and wind you up. We'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Just just talk to myself and check back in in

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: But I do think the Blue Jays have a chance.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you think about that lineup right now

776
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Speaker 2: with Vlad Guerrero is just out of his mind. George

777
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Speaker 2: Springer has a long history of big time playoff moments,

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Speaker 2: has beaten the Dodgers in the World Series even if

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Speaker 2: there was an asterisk next to it. So I'm my

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Speaker 2: head tells me to pick the Dodgers, but I don't know, Brad.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we're gonna get a weird series. Sometimes the ball

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Speaker 2: just has to bounce your way a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I absolutely think Toronto could win the series.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're a listener of this podcast for

785
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Speaker 1: a long time, none of this will surprise you. What

786
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Speaker 1: I'm about to say of coming out of my mouth.

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Speaker 1: But I believe the Dodters are the better team. The

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Speaker 1: Daughters are the best team in baseball and paper, and

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Speaker 1: now they are healthier than they were most of the season,

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Speaker 1: and they're the rightful favorites to win the series. I

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Speaker 1: also think that people are already and naturally I get

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Speaker 1: why overstating their win probability in the series, because baseball

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Speaker 1: is random. Yep, and I mean that lovingly. I love

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Speaker 1: I love the sport, but a seven game series and look,

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Speaker 1: they're not playing. They're not playing. The Pirates, like the Lodes,

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Speaker 1: are really good. They're not as good as the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: on paper, but they're a good team. They have home field,

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Speaker 1: which matters a little, not a ton, but a little.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, our friends of DraftKings have the Dodgers at

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Speaker 1: minus two fifteen. Right now. If you told me, okay,

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Speaker 1: pick the series with no odds, I picked the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Right If you said you have to bet your own

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Speaker 1: hard earned money on one side at the price currently,

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Speaker 1: I take the Blue Jays. I really would, because I

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Speaker 1: think it's like I think people might think it's like

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Speaker 1: a seventy to thirty series, and that's not I believe

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Speaker 1: what a series like this is against a good team

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Speaker 1: over seven games. I think the Blue Jays are very

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Speaker 1: live to win the series. This is a talented group.

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Speaker 1: They got star power. Two Vlad has been like you said,

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Speaker 1: absolute mind George Springer, huge home run to get to

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Speaker 1: get here. For the Blue Jays, they got a real

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Speaker 1: pitching staff, Like I'm excited to watch it, Like, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I don't hate the Dodgers in the way that I

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Speaker 1: do the Mets in the Phillies, I don't, but I

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Speaker 1: also don't want to win the World Series. Like I'm

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Speaker 1: root for the Blue Jays. I'll be open about that,

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Speaker 1: like I'm definitely rooted for the Blue Jays the series.

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Speaker 1: So everyone, but they got a shot. I really think that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, objectively speaking, I think they're like forty maybe

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Speaker 1: even more to win, Like I wouldn't pick them, but

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Speaker 1: they got a chance for real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think home field is home field

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Speaker 2: in baseball is about as small as an advantage as

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Speaker 2: there is in the four major American sports. But it

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel you look like you take it all day long.

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Speaker 2: And if you're Toronto man Game one and saying you

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Speaker 2: need to win game one of the best of seven

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Speaker 2: is not exactly rocket science. But if Toronto goes out

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Speaker 2: and gets blasted in game one, I think we can

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Speaker 2: all probably do that. That's all, folks, I agree.

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Speaker 1: But also, I mean, I'm sure you saw the videos

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Speaker 1: like I did of you know, I think it was

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Speaker 1: Blad after Game six, which one of the games game

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Speaker 1: that Blad had a huge game, and there was that

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Speaker 1: video of him doing the walk off interview after the

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Speaker 1: game on the field and his perspective, and that place

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Speaker 1: was going berserk and that was like fifteen minutes after

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Speaker 1: the game was over. It was going nuts, and it's Brits.

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Speaker 1: If that's a real atmosphere, like Oh Toronto, that place

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Speaker 1: is going to be rocking on Friday. And hopefully to

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Speaker 1: your point, they're not down five nothing in the second

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Speaker 1: ending and it's like there's no juice and left in

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Speaker 1: the building. If the game's closed, it's going to be

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Speaker 1: payannemonium in there. And you're right, it's not as big

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Speaker 1: of an advantage as it would be in other sports,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't matter. And you know, I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to cope. The Dodgers were loaded. I think it's it's annoying.

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Speaker 2: I think they'd better be loaded, Brad. They spend nine

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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars every winter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's all annoying. We'll save that for maybe

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Speaker 1: a dead period on on the calendar where we could

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Speaker 1: talk about the issues with the baseball revenue model and

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Speaker 1: all that. But they are awesome. But which is a

855
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: real team too, And I you know, they beat the

856
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: marriage are really good too, and they just beat them

857
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: so and the Yankees, I mean they walk the Yankees,

858
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: they sure did. And the Dodgers are nine and one

859
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and I get it. They've been absolutely

860
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: rolling and a pick it at the right time, and

861
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: it's it is annoying. Uh, but there you go. We

862
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: met our picks now to some degree, I do want

863
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: to make you on the record just for fun, because

864
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: you know what is pick the MVP because we have DraftKings.

865
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: Out's our friends there and it's the series is kind

866
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: of is what it is. I think most people that

867
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: are like us are saying essentially the same thing, like

868
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: the Dodgers are the favorites. They have to be the

869
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: pick if you're with the proverbial gun to your head.

870
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: But also the Wodeos are That's a pretty natural thing

871
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: to say. MVP is like harder because like you could

872
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: just say, hey, Showy O Tony for all the money please,

873
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: which is reasonable world, so whatever, but you have a pick.

874
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: We are gonna go for money, just like all those

875
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: guys in the NBA. Brad, I'm gonna go money line

876
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays, and I will take Vlad Junior as MVP.

877
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: I believe you can get Vlad Junior as plus six

878
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: hundred on the betting odds. That would pay nicely. I

879
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 2: might be able to, you know, go out and have

880
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: a nice night on the town whenever that cash is

881
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: so I'll say blue Jason seven, why not? And Vlad

882
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 2: Junior Jason seven? Whoah, Blue Jason seven. Roger Center explodes.

883
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: The entire city goes nuts, partying in the streets. And

884
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean Vlad has like a fifteen hundred ops in

885
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I mean he is having an all time October.

886
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, he has been locked in, and I'm glad for

887
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: him because he's signed that massive contract and like it

888
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: wish you wanted to be awesome early on in that

889
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: contract and he he was, like he was good at

890
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: record season, but he wasn't like absolutely incredible, But yeah,

891
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: he has a fourteen forty oh ps in the playoffs.

892
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: That's a real number. All right, My look, I'm tended

893
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: to pick Otani even if Otani at draftings is plus

894
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: one sixty. That's an insane number. But also he's an

895
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: insane player, so it's not even doesn't see it doesn't

896
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: even seem crazy. He is pitching and the game he

897
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: had last week, what are you gonna gonna say about that?

898
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: My pick non a Tinian Division is not old friend

899
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: Freddy Freeman, although he could win it again. I would

900
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: go with Max Muncy at twenty five to one. Part

901
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: of that is that it's not Otani, and I don't

902
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: want to pick a Tony, But Max Munsey is a

903
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: guy who gets really hot sometimes and also is a

904
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna play every day in the series, and

905
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: we know that already. That combination. There's a the Porch,

906
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: the Porch in Toronto. Like, I think it would not

907
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: surprise to be Max Munsey three hormones in the series.

908
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: And if you do that, like you're kind of like

909
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: right there. So twenty five to one, Max Montzi's to pick,

910
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: and I will say Dodgers in six Dodgers and six

911
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: because less that, lesson that feels insulting of the Blue Jays,

912
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: So Dodgers.

913
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: It might be famous last words, but I think Toronto

914
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: can absolutely hang and again, man, sometimes I think about

915
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: that NLCS and twenty one, right, like that ball goes

916
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: up the middle and Trey Turner whiffs on it and

917
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: the Braves walk off, and then Eddie Rizzario, like an

918
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: unexpected player for Toronto, just goes nuts for five or

919
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: six games and carries them to a couple of wins.

920
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's both the beauty and curse the baseball.

921
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: Anybody can win a series, but also anybody can lose

922
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: a series. And we'll see. I'm hoping for just a

923
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: good competitive series and then hopefully not much long after,

924
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: the Braves start kind of get the ball rolling on

925
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: a manager and if they don't already a manager and

926
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: figure out shortstop and all those good things.

927
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I it up earlier such did it now?

928
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: Fangrafts and their playoff odds that are run by Dan Zenborski,

929
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: the ZIPS creator, they have exactly what we just laid out,

930
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: like they have. He basically has the Dodgers is like

931
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: a fifty five percent favorite in every game in the series,

932
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: which is like that's natural, and they're like fifty nine

933
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: percent to win the series. That sounds exactly right to me. Yeah,

934
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: but guess what, everybody, the big bad Dodgers are fifty

935
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: nine percent in a series. Like, that's baseball for you

936
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: in a nutshell. So you're right, it's it's a play here,

937
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: a play there, a pitching outing here, someone has the

938
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: night of their life on the mound and they and

939
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: suddenly you're up one nothing or a two to one

940
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: in the series, and it's like, oh, now you're control

941
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: of this thing because one guy was out of his

942
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: mind for three hours.

943
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: Like yeah, old old friend Kevin Gosman has like his

944
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 2: god tear splitter working, and nobody can hit the ball

945
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: for eight innings. Yeah, Like it's it all comes down

946
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,959
Speaker 2: to just execution. And then also who gets lucky?

947
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: You know, like.

948
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: As one team as bases loaded and hits one hundred

949
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: and ten mile an hour rocket ship right at the

950
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: center fielder and the other team bloops three balls to

951
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 2: nowhere and they you know, they come back to win

952
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: the game. I mean that's again, both the beauty and

953
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: the madness of baseball.

954
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: We love baseball in this space and again when we're

955
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: plug for our guys at Fox Won. The games are Friday, Saturday, Monday,

956
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: and Tuesday for sure, and then if necessary, you got Wednesday.

957
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: The twenty ninth Game six is on Halloween. That'll be

958
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: interesting if it gets that far. Halloween shout out.

959
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: Adam Duval's Grand Slam in the World Series was on

960
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: Halloween night. I remember this because I turned off every

961
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: light in our home so no kids came to my

962
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: door that night because I knew the World Series was on,

963
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: so I shut off like our porch lights. I unscrewed

964
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: like the lights next to our garage because I didn't

965
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: want anyone coming up to the door. And they hit

966
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: the Grand Slam, and I remember texting you and our

967
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: old co host Eric Cole, like, oh my god, guys,

968
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna do it. Of course, everything after the Duval

969
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: Grand Slam did not go well, but hey, Jorge Solaire,

970
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: Dansby Swanson, Freddie Freeman, Max Freed pitched the game of

971
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: his life and the Braves won it all. Two days later.

972
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw you posted the video of the Duval

973
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: Grand Slam the other day and said, what we all remember,

974
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: like that should have been the moment. It really should

975
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: have been. That should have been it, and it was

976
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: in the moment we were feeling I was levitating above

977
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: my computer screen and TV screen.

978
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: But would that have been the greatest moment in Atlanta

979
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: sports history? Maybe not. I mean there's the Hank Aaron Homer. Yeah,

980
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean you got in the last thirty years.

981
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the ninety five to one, But there

982
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: wasn't like, I mean, there wasn't like one moment in

983
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: that World Series. I mean, Gladden was ridiculous. All those

984
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: things that happened. Then yeah, maybe, I mean it should

985
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: have been over. It should have been it. It should

986
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: And also we had to do a pod that night

987
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: and I'll stop talking, but we had to do a

988
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: pod that night, and I swear to you we were

989
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: both thinking, oh, no, they're gonna lose this series, Like

990
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: they're not going to do this, and that's gonna be forever.

991
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: It would have been the most twenty eight to three

992
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: falcon Z disaster if they had had that Grand Slam,

993
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: lost that game and lost the series. But hey, they

994
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: didn't lose Scott.

995
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: It won that's right, baby, what a run.

996
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Let's do it again. What do you say? What do

997
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: you say? We do this again in twenty twenty six,

998
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 1: Let's do it again. That'd be a lot of fun,

999
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: all right, Scott, thank you for being here, as always

1000
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: my friend. People can follow Scott's glorious work online at

1001
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: Scott coland fifty five. He is the world's happiest NFL

1002
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: fan right now because the Colts are rocking and rolling.

1003
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: I am less excited about my team right now that

1004
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: his team, but they're fine ish most of the time.

1005
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: To go to me, we should fly to Germany and

1006
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: go to that Colts Falcons game. I was going to

1007
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: pitch to you we do a live show at like

1008
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: eleven am Eastern Time in the middle of that game,

1009
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: but that would be a bad idea, I think for

1010
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: all people involved.

1011
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: I won't do that.

1012
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Speaker 4: We will not do that.

1013
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