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Speaker 1: What's happening everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from the

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst,

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Speaker 2: side non reporter for your Houston Texans and love having

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday show because that means your Texans are still

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Speaker 2: playing Paul and they are on Saturday at Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all of that. Mark's gonna join me.

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Speaker 2: Well he's gonna join me right up front here, but

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Speaker 2: he's gonna join.

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Speaker 1: Me a little bit later. We're gonna dive in depth.

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Speaker 2: To this game against the Kansas City Chiefs, and we're

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Speaker 2: gonna try and create some Mahomes rules, you know, like

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan had the Jordan rules. Actually was the Pistons

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Speaker 2: who had the Jordan rules from Michael Jordan many many

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Speaker 2: years ago. So you kind of gotta be in my

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Speaker 2: demographic to remember the Jordan rules. But if you do

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Speaker 2: remember them, that's kind of what I'm going with with

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Speaker 2: the Mahomes rules. I think I'll dive a little bit

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Speaker 2: more into the specifics on Friday when I do my

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Speaker 2: Keys to the Game. But you got to eliminate some

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Speaker 2: of the scrambles that are just killers on third down,

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Speaker 2: you know, first down scramb His scrambles are just killers regardless.

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Speaker 2: But he does a few things that you cannot get

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Speaker 2: sucked into. Play fakes, pump fakes, all that kind of

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Speaker 2: stuff you can't get sucked into. So we'll talk about

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Speaker 2: that in our next segment. But we kick off every

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Speaker 2: Wednesday show with the man himself, general manager for your

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Speaker 2: Houston Texans, Nick Caserio.

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Speaker 3: Let's rock in studio with us now executive vice president

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Speaker 3: and general manager Nick Cassario.

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Speaker 4: Nick, how's it going good? Could it be doing a

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Speaker 4: show this week?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're still going Congratulations on the playoff victory. We'll

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Speaker 3: talk about the Chiefs in a moment, but your thoughts

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Speaker 3: on what you saw the Texans against the Chargers. A

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Speaker 3: complete effort, a twenty point win.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, played really well collectively as a team.

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Speaker 6: All three phases had us say kind of in the

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Speaker 6: victory there at different points. So and as we talked

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Speaker 6: about going into the game, all three phases or certain

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Speaker 6: bench marks we were gonna have to hit. Some of

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Speaker 6: the things that John and I talked about before the game,

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Speaker 6: those came to fruition a little bit. Some of the

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Speaker 6: emphasis points that we had during the week. So overall

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Speaker 6: is a great team effort. A lot of players contributed.

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Speaker 6: We need everybody play good situationally kind of when we

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Speaker 6: needed to. Obviously the turnovers in the end being a

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Speaker 6: So overall it's we did enough things to win, put

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Speaker 6: ourselves in a good position. Now we know the opportunity

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Speaker 6: this week against a really good football team.

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Speaker 2: Nick, what could have been a turnover didn't turn into

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Speaker 2: a turnover, and it actually maybe turned into the play

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Speaker 2: CJ not catching a snap, dropping snap, batsnap, whatever you're

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Speaker 2: kind of feel like at the time, you know what,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you never really know what play is gonna kind

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Speaker 6: you know, we were backed up the first half really

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Speaker 6: to get that conversion there. And even if the snap

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Speaker 6: players just have to make plays seemingly. Hutch makes a

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Speaker 3: Well, he hit Schultz and then he hit Nico on

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, those are two really good football players.

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Speaker 5: So it's all about timing an execution.

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Speaker 2: How satisfying was it for you, Nick to see a

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Speaker 2: I don't know those ten minutes, ten minutes lefter or so,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and really it's each set of plays. So gave

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Speaker 3: Well both teams because with the Texans running game starts

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Speaker 4: Off at the end.

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Speaker 3: With the Chargers, they had some runs early, but then

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if you look at the games over the weekend,

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Speaker 6: but you look around the league, the teams that ran

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Speaker 4: One thing I think It's fascinating, Nick Is.

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Speaker 2: Everybody talks about, well, you're going at halftime and you

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Speaker 2: It's like you can't do that in the NFL. But really,

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Speaker 4: Demko has told me that against this defense.

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Speaker 2: But it feels like adjustments and reminders have to be

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Speaker 6: where when you come off the field, whether on offense

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Speaker 4: Where are we?

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Speaker 6: All Right, let's get ready for the first possession offensively

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Speaker 6: and defensively. But during the course of the game, you

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Speaker 5: If you wait too long, then it's too late.

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Speaker 5: You have to pick your spots.

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Speaker 6: And I think we're seeing that more with quarterbacks really

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Speaker 6: Jaden makes plays with his legs, Lamar Iv everybody knows

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Speaker 6: what Lamar can do with his legs, but Josh games

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Speaker 6: But the ability to kind of make a play with

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Speaker 6: our case, CJ, that long run you had there in

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Speaker 6: their halftime was able to get it and plus territory.

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Speaker 6: Then we were able to have a couple of completions

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Speaker 6: it's an extra player, it's a free play. But there's

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Speaker 2: He also gets his hands on the block, which doesn't

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Speaker 2: But that's something I think it's a it's a great

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Speaker 4: That's something that we've seen him work on all year.

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Speaker 2: We've been watching that practice all year, like all year here,

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Speaker 3: Okay, Chris Farley question Derek Stingley Jr.

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Speaker 4: He's awesome.

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Speaker 2: What's different about them? What can change? How many guys

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they've started to get into a little bit of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say you don't have to necessarily go

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Speaker 6: You're gonna go back and obviously look at that game,

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Speaker 2: How impressive, and you know him, how impressive is what

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Speaker 4: How difficult is that to do?

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Speaker 5: Nick, Yeah, it's very impressive.

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Speaker 6: And also he doesn't surprise anybody that's been around Joe Toney.

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Speaker 2: they get Hollywood back, and our game was the first

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Speaker 2: game that we had a chance to see him, and

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Speaker 2: so you're, okay, well, how does.

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Speaker 4: He fit in? You know, they got Worthy of the burner,

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Speaker 4: could do some things.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, there's always Travis and then there's hop What is

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Speaker 2: Hollywood gonna bring?

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Speaker 1: Okay, he's just gonna be a nine route down a field.

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Speaker 2: And then well you see how they sprinkled him in

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Speaker 2: and you're like, well, this could be pretty dangerous. How

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Speaker 2: do you look at Hollywood, Nick and how tough is

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Speaker 2: it to kind of figure out what more they can

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Speaker 2: do with him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a little bit more nuanced. Then Okay, they

451
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Speaker 6: just put him on a field and want him run

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Speaker 6: down the field. So Hollywood, It's say he and Worthy

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Speaker 6: are similar. They're both fast, They're both quick, they can

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Speaker 6: run variety of different routes. He's getting more comfortable, They're

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Speaker 6: using him more. I would say Kansas City does a

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Speaker 6: good job really utilizing all their offensive skills. So whether

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Speaker 6: it's Noah Travis Kelce talked about, Hollywood talked about worthy

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Speaker 6: of Justin Watson as a player nobody really talks about,

459
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Speaker 6: but it's a player Patrick likes throwing the ball to

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Speaker 6: Hop has his role or me Heo has kind of

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Speaker 6: helped him in a return game. So they use all

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Speaker 6: of their offensive skill and offensive personnel. So it just

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Speaker 6: gives them another player that they feel good about, which

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Speaker 6: is why they added them to the team in the

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Speaker 6: first place.

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Speaker 3: Nick, you're aun a great young head coach, and Tabiko

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Speaker 3: rans you are around Bill Belichick, one of the greatest

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Speaker 3: coaches ever. Andy Reid faced him this week and you

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Speaker 3: look at the Philadelphia part of the resume, that alone

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Speaker 3: looks like a Hall of Fame career. What about all

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Speaker 3: he's been able to do in his career and it's

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Speaker 3: still going.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Andy's just so consistent, has a great grasp of his

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Speaker 6: team what they have to do each week. And Andy

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Speaker 6: has shown the ability to adjust and adapt his system

477
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Speaker 6: as he goes, and that's a mark of a great

478
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Speaker 6: coach is to be able to look at your team

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Speaker 6: figure out what you have to do well. The West

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Speaker 6: Coast kind of offensive system that he ran in Philly,

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Speaker 6: what they're doing here.

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Speaker 5: In case is totally different. There's some nuances that.

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Speaker 6: Are probably probably care over, but he's just been so consistent,

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Speaker 6: so steady when you win. However many divisions they've won,

485
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Speaker 6: they've been in the AFC Championship game, I don't know,

486
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Speaker 6: six seven years in a row. I mean, everything starts

487
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Speaker 6: at the top with the head coach. So a lot

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Speaker 6: of respect for Andy the way he runs the program.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he'll be in the Hall of Fame one day,

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Speaker 6: and deservedly so we.

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Speaker 2: Know obviously Mahmes and we talked about all the weapons,

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Speaker 2: but how important does stopping Pacheco, not letting him get going,

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Speaker 2: whether it's runs or screens, and just keeping that element

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Speaker 2: of the game in intact.

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Speaker 4: As much as you possibly can.

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Speaker 6: Nick the run game is going to be a factor

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Speaker 6: in this game, both sides of the ball, so and

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Speaker 6: he's a big part of the run game. I think

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Speaker 6: our game might have been one of the first game

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Speaker 6: back or he's been in and out because he's had

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Speaker 6: some injuries. But he's so he runs hard, he's tough,

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Speaker 6: he's strong, he's hard to tackle. He gets extra cards

503
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Speaker 6: after contacts, so swarm tackling get as many hats to

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Speaker 6: the ball.

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Speaker 5: Around him will be critically important.

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Speaker 3: This time of year, we see all these coaching jobs

507
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Speaker 3: opened up and people interviewing. How much do people call

508
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Speaker 3: around and get references on guys from other gms and

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Speaker 3: personnel people.

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Speaker 4: How often does that kind of thing happen.

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Speaker 5: It's case by case.

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Speaker 6: You'll have some people might have their group of people

513
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Speaker 6: that they get information from, but if they have a

514
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Speaker 6: question on somebody, I think everybody kind of knows everybody

515
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Speaker 6: or everything. You start with the tape and then you

516
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Speaker 6: kind of work backwards. You're probably doing some work behind

517
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Speaker 6: the scenes. So we're always going to be pretty open

518
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Speaker 6: and pretty honest and however we can help whoever it is.

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Speaker 5: It's just the right thing to do. And whether it's

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Speaker 5: the coach or you.

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Speaker 6: Just want to if someone asks you a question, you

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Speaker 6: just want to give them a straight answer and be

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Speaker 6: honest and direct with them because I think they appreciate

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Speaker 6: that and hope they're's reciprocity on the other side, if

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Speaker 6: we're reaching out and doing the same.

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Speaker 4: Thing, they're going to find out anyway.

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Speaker 3: Right, So exactly, Hey, you were not correct on that assessment,

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Speaker 3: or I got to fact tech.

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Speaker 5: You don't worry.

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Speaker 2: So we got a lot of work to do, But

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Speaker 2: you've also got a lot of work to do in

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Speaker 2: another area. Is it the same as last year in

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Speaker 2: a sense that I don't want to say. You know,

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Speaker 2: you've been having the draft meetings, You've been discussing that.

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Speaker 2: How do you kind of go through all that Nick

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Speaker 2: with the draft meetings? You kind of let those guys

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Speaker 2: run things. You kind of get involved with that as

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Speaker 2: much as you can as you stay prepared for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: How do you kind of go about that as we

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Speaker 4: move forward?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, everybody's kind of on their own right now.

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Speaker 6: The All Star Games, there's been a few. You have

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Speaker 6: the Hula Bowl. There's gonna be a few more than

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Speaker 6: we're gonna have East West and the Senior Bowl. But

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Speaker 6: everybody's kind of working independently right now. Really the next

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Speaker 6: thing is waiting on the on your classman list. So

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Speaker 6: there's been about forty ish or so players that have

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Speaker 6: declared you'll probably get another let's call it twenty to

549
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Speaker 6: twenty five here at some point, so I want to

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Speaker 6: make sure you're familiar with who those players are, so

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Speaker 6: you do your work kind of an individual basis. Our

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Speaker 6: next round of draft meetings are middle of February ish,

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Speaker 6: so everybody's.

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Speaker 5: Kind of on their own working.

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Speaker 6: Probably have an opportunity to get everybody to get at

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Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl, and then after the Senior Bowl we'll

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Speaker 6: get back together and just try to get all the

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Speaker 6: information organized and start to prepare for the next phase

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Speaker 6: in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm stealing this one from Johnny AJ. Brown

561
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Speaker 3: was reading a book on the sideline. His team was winning,

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Speaker 3: so I guess it was okay. But what is the

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Speaker 3: weirdest thing or some of the weird things you've seen

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Speaker 3: players do on the sideline, like read a book or

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Speaker 3: maybe somebody had their phone or something like that. Not here,

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Speaker 3: of course, I don't know. Whatever whatever experiences you might

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Speaker 3: have ever used.

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Speaker 5: To be nothing like jumps out of me.

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Speaker 6: I think everybody has their own different quirks or different things,

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Speaker 6: whether it's pregame, they might do something during the game.

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Speaker 6: There's really not too much that goes on. So whatever

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Speaker 6: your routine is, if that's a part of your process,

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Speaker 6: then so be it. I think things have evolved through

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Speaker 6: the years. I mean a lot of times everybody's just

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Speaker 6: gone on the bench and you're going through the tablet,

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Speaker 6: just trying to get ready for the next drive.

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Speaker 3: So you can't search for things on that tablet, right

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Speaker 3: you cannot.

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Speaker 6: You're not playing video, so you can't get online and

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Speaker 6: start looking for like the next great novel that's coming

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Speaker 6: out next week.

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Speaker 2: How much are you reading during the season. Do you

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Speaker 2: get to read during the season or are you just

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Speaker 2: focused on that.

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Speaker 5: That's a funny question.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I try to maybe read a book or two, like

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Speaker 6: over the course of a couple of weeks. So try

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Speaker 6: to get through maybef the book takes me, make me

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Speaker 6: a week or two, seven to ten days, try to

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Speaker 6: transition to the next that. Try to budget maybe forty

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Speaker 6: five sixty minutes during the course of the week, just

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Speaker 6: kind of as an outlet, just something that I could

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Speaker 6: pour into a little bit. Usually when we get on

595
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Speaker 6: the bus, when we're traveling at the airport, there's an opportunity.

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Speaker 6: So I enjoyed doing it. So try to find things

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Speaker 6: that are stimulating that are interesting. So I'm actually reading

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Speaker 6: Tim Grover, who wrote Relentless. This was Kobe and Michael

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Speaker 6: Jordan's trainer. He has another book that's out about winning

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Speaker 6: and just mindset and thought process. So anything that can

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Speaker 6: get my hands on leadership business kind of related. Not

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Speaker 6: the nerd out on anybody. But I enjoyed doing it

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Speaker 6: and try to budget sometime, you know, during the course

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Speaker 6: of the year sometimes all of us need to release.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's got different releases away from football what they're doing.

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Speaker 6: But I enjoy doing it. So no, it's it's interesting

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Speaker 6: that you asked that question.

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Speaker 4: Have you read aj Brown's book? I can't remember.

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Speaker 5: I don't know the name of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a self improvement, but yeah, I can't

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Speaker 3: remember the title.

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Speaker 4: I've read a couple of pages. Number one on Amazon

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Speaker 4: looks good. It's more good. Are we talking electronic like

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Speaker 4: a kindle or can't read it?

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Speaker 5: I can't read off the Good Health. I need to

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Speaker 5: read book.

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Speaker 6: Have a book hardcover because I have a pen with

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Speaker 6: me and I'm making some notes or underline.

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Speaker 5: I can't read off a candle. I know some kids

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Speaker 5: make fun of you for that. Yeah, my kids just

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Speaker 5: are online youngest. That's all.

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Speaker 6: She like just tries to sneak away with her iPad.

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Speaker 6: It's like, honey, bring that back here. Where are you going?

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Speaker 4: Breaking news?

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Speaker 3: Nick is not scrolling Instagram in the spare time, he's reading. Okay, Nick,

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Speaker 3: thanks a lot for joining us, good luck, Thanks fellas.

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Speaker 2: He's the man. I love him coming in the studio.

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Speaker 2: We do it every Tuesday. We put up on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: So if you're here there for the second time, great,

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Speaker 2: maybe there's something. And you know this, whenever you watch

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Speaker 2: a movie, you watch the first time, you love it.

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Speaker 2: You go back and watch the second time, you're like, oh, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't remember.

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Speaker 4: That from the first time.

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Speaker 2: Well you got a little something extra out of it

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Speaker 2: this second time. So appreciate you guys taking a listen.

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Speaker 2: And Mark is gonna stick with me because we're going

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Speaker 2: to dive into some of the things that Texans are

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Speaker 2: gonna have to do against this Chiefs Team, Cinderella Man

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Speaker 2: Jordan Rules, A lot of things will be bringing up

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Speaker 2: coming up next segment.

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Speaker 4: Right here, All.

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Speaker 2: Access welcome back to this one's dadation of Texans. All

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Speaker 2: Access from the Hunt of Texans Radio Studio, John and

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Speaker 2: Mark Harris and Vandermir as usual, Mark, I have seen

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Speaker 2: my napkins.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you've written a lot of notes on

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Speaker 3: a napkin. Yeah, you know, I can get you a

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Speaker 3: piece of paper if you like. We have that here.

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Speaker 2: Well, that the napkin was just closest by we have paper. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but the that was just close as by.

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Speaker 3: It is mostly a digital workspace here, but we do

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Speaker 3: have some paper around.

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Speaker 2: So what I wanted to come up with were the

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Speaker 2: Mahomes rules. Okay, what you have to do? Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: talked about this the other day with nd. I brought

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Speaker 2: up to Jordan rules. And the Jordan rules apparently it's

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Speaker 2: funny because there was so much made about them. But

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Speaker 2: when the Pistons talked about it in their documentary, they're like, look,

660
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: there were three things. When he caught the ball in

661
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: the wing, we tried to keep him going towards the baseline.

662
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: If he got into the middle, then a big would

663
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: come over and double.

664
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Speaker 1: And always when he went to the rim, you hammered him.

665
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: Those are the three Jordan rules, all right, make him

666
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: feel it, make him feel it and back then they

667
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: could do that without gets kicked out of the league.

668
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 4: That's exactly right.

669
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: So the Mahomes rules, what do you think is most

670
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 2: important in keeping him? I think he's good when he's

671
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: just on rhythm, he's great. Listen, he's the great, He's

672
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: he's you could make an argument he's already the greatest

673
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: of all time because of what he can do.

674
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: And he gets in rhythm, and he's got a lot

675
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: of people throw to.

676
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 4: He'll do all that.

677
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 3: But I think it's his scrambles that are killers. Yeah,

678
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: I've always said the absolute killers. Well you tell me

679
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: if I'm right here. You said it the other day.

680
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 3: You don't want Mahomes in the pocket comfortable throwing the football.

681
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: He'll kill you. But I don't want him getting out

682
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: of the pocket either. I want to rush him, but

683
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: I still got to keep him in contained. And and

684
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: he was talking about how they would handle Vic. It

685
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: was less aggressive, and they wanted him in the pocket

686
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 3: because Vic was a good passer, better pass than people remember,

687
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: but he wasn't going to kill you like Mahomes. So

688
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: with Mahomes, I want to crush the pocket. I want

689
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: that pocket to be like a crumpled up piece of paper.

690
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 3: So then he maybe gets forced into a bad throw,

691
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: a throw he doesn't want to make maybe you get

692
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: a knockdown or a takeaway or whatever, an errant pass,

693
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: because we've seen that. The time that the Texans defeated

694
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: the Chiefs up there in twenty nineteen, we saw some

695
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: errant throws.

696
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: There was a little bit of pressure.

697
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: You're able to get to him a little bit and

698
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: force him incompletions get off the field on third damn

699
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: more often than not. And then you had the ball

700
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 3: at the end of the game, and you could possess

701
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 3: the ball. So that's the other thing. You know, the

702
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: Mahomes rules. Run the ball with Joe Mixon, that's the

703
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: Mahomes rule. But he's going to have the rock obviously,

704
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: And I think I'm right about that, am I Where

705
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: you want to rush, but you got to keep him

706
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 3: in an area where you can get to them. That's

707
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: why you need it from everybody. If a tackle, if

708
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: a d tackle is kind of getting b but the

709
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: edge guys are coming in and he can whip up

710
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: the middle.

711
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: You're dead right, that's exactly right. I've seen him make

712
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: most of his scrambles. I've charted, haven't gotten all the

713
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: way through. I've charted forty two of his fifty.

714
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: Eight runs this year, okay, and that's more than most

715
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: people have done.

716
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: So a lot of these are I should say a

717
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: lot a significant number of these are taking knees at

718
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: the end of a game. So there's thirty four, seven,

719
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: ten those are rushes. Yeah, they're considered russes, so they

720
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: show up. There's just twelve.

721
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: Fifteen, So like fifteen and forty two are knees.

722
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: How hard is that to just call it a knee. Yeah,

723
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: we have like a counter for the yardage.

724
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: It's like a different category all together.

725
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: It's like price Waterhouse doing the.

726
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: H It shouldn't count against you're rushing.

727
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: That's stupid.

728
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: But we talked to Himiko the other day and he

729
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: kept saying he talked about be gap. We've got to

730
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: be careful the be gap escape, right, So the b

731
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: gap is between the guard and the town. One of

732
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: the things that mahomes like one of the killers. And

733
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: it makes me think that Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson

734
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: are the two most important people in this game because

735
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: he takes advantage at least once a game where he

736
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: drops the throw. He's right handed, so he'll drop the

737
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: throw and the right defensive end. So to Mahomes' backside

738
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: right will rush in try and get the edge on

739
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: the tackle going high, and he'll go high and the

740
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: defensive tackle of that side will jump into the A

741
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: gap and all of a sudden, back on the B

742
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: gap behind him, Mahomes escapes out that way.

743
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the number of times that he has.

744
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: Escaped out the backside, not the front side, not what

745
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: he can see or you would think he could see.

746
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: But he feels that upfield rush and he's like, I'm gone.

747
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 2: He's taking off. And then after that pump fakes. He

748
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: is pump faking every forward pass.

749
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 4: Oh, you know a.

750
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: Regular PASSA don't buy a pump coach, you let him.

751
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: If you're a defender, you're closing in on him in

752
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: one of these situations, let him throw it.

753
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't buy the pump fake. Don't buy the You'll

754
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: just go tackle him. You get a embarrassed and B

755
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 2: he'll go and run around you.

756
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: The other'll be that simple.

757
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: Don't touch him after the ball is gone, because that

758
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: is going to be yellow larder.

759
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: You. You have got to be careful with this.

760
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: We know they are dying to throw the flag on

761
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: any text and it comes in remotely late or even

762
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: bang bang.

763
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: He is so.

764
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: Good, so good at getting near the sideline. He did

765
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: this against the Bengals, got near the sideline and Jermaine Pratt.

766
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: Was just hoofing it, just going over.

767
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: And as you got the Mahomes, you realized I gotta

768
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: back off. He got just enough of mahomes, and mahomes,

769
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, did the euro flop fifteen yards.

770
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 4: You know, they got to be careful with this.

771
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: If you are a runner, if you go past the

772
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage, you're a runner. Now you're not a

773
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: quarterback anymore. And I know they get the slide. They

774
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: get the slide. I get it.

775
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 4: But I've seen receivers slide too.

776
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: You know, Odell Beckham in his prime would slide on occasion.

777
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 3: Give himself up. It's a better way to put it.

778
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 3: You gotta be very careful with that, obviously. I don't

779
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: want to see this thing.

780
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: You know.

781
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 3: I have several wishes for this game, Johnny. Yeah, I

782
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: think one of them. You know, one of them is

783
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: don't let Mahomes have the ball when you have a

784
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: one or two or three point lead late, Okay, maybe

785
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: any kind of lead. Yeah, And he has enough time

786
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: to do something with it. That would be a wish

787
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: of mine. Another one is don't let the game be

788
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 3: decided by a penalty unless it's gonna help the Texans. Yes, yeah,

789
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: but I don't want any controversy at the end of

790
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: this one, you know, like a big heavyweight fight where

791
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: it's like, you know what, that's I was scored very terrible.

792
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you brought that up, because if you

793
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: think about the Chiefs, if you think about the chief season, Yeah, now,

794
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: I don't.

795
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: Want to I don't want to go to con like

796
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: they beat the Ravens.

797
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: It's not controversy, but what happens he's got the tonal

798
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 2: line Bengals, Now there's controversy because there's a bogus PI call. Right, Falcons,

799
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: no controversy, but they can't score from the five yard line.

800
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

801
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: The Chargers at the Chargers seventeen ten. It was in

802
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: the Chargers game where Mahomes picks up a thirty three.

803
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: Because of the pump fake pump, fake.

804
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: Linebacker goes around him first down.

805
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: They keep a drive going. They end up scoring on

806
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: that drive. The Saints was a Monday night game. There's

807
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: no real controversy there forty nine ers, not real, you know, controversy.

808
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: Buccaneers had to win in overtime. Yeah, the win that

809
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: thing in overtime. The Mayfield body language on the lost

810
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: coin to us.

811
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: That's right.

812
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: The Broncos they have to block of.

813
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: Fuel goal, yeah, and a makeable makable that the block of.

814
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: Fugal to win that game. The Panthers, they've got to

815
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: win the last play of the game. But you can't

816
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: leave it close.

817
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: You cannot. You cannot leave it close.

818
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: It might have to be and you might just have

819
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: to come up with the stop of your life, which

820
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: would be you might the most satisfying stop in.

821
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: The history of the franchise.

822
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: It would be and since opening that it would be

823
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 3: the most satisfying stop since opening days when you had

824
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: the two point, when you had the safety Yeah, Seth

825
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: Payne and Gary Walker, and I think it would outdo

826
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: that because you're getting.

827
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: To the aco gets you the championship.

828
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: And that's so all six times we've had this game,

829
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: you've had a chance to have the greatest game in

830
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: the history of the franchise, the greatest win, yes, in

831
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: the history of the franchise.

832
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: And you know it, no matter how you get it.

833
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: If you win this nothing you I was gonna say

834
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: nine seven.

835
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: You win this thing nine of course it is the.

836
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: Greatest one in the Yes, no question. Look who you're beating,

837
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: the two time defending champs. The whole world wants you

838
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 3: to take them out. This is like beating the Patriots

839
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 3: in their heyday for.

840
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: Us on Saturday. Think about this, cheery body is cheering

841
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: for us on Saturday.

842
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: I guarantee you on the bus to the game, I

843
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: will get a text from my buddy sal Caapaccio, who's

844
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: the southline report from Buffalo, and say, come on, man,

845
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 2: win this game and then come up with the Buffalo

846
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: I guarantee you.

847
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: I get they would. Of course, they'd rather see the

848
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 3: Texans than the Chiefs, exactly right. But they also want

849
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: the Chiefs just out. Exist Every football fan who's not

850
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: a Chiefs fan wants the Chiefs out. And that's what

851
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 3: happens when you're a dynasty. They love you or you're

852
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: or they hate you. But think about the start they're

853
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: off to six consecutive AFC Championship games. This is a

854
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: better start to this dynasty than the Patriots had. It's

855
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: a better start because the Patriots won the Super Bowl,

856
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: and oh one, they actually missed the playoffs two right,

857
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: and then you know they get it rolling against super

858
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: Bowl Super Bowl. So they won three out of playoffs.

859
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: Two year after they won it, they won three out

860
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: of four, but they didn't win another one for over

861
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: a decade. It it takes a lot to do what

862
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: they're doing and to take them out in the divisional

863
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: round at home, this is a tall order. Now we

864
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 3: all said it last week. You'd probably rather face the

865
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: Chiefs than the Bills of the Ravens in week two. Well,

866
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: here we are. Be careful what you ask for. And

867
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: I'm look last week, I would have taken anything because

868
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: I just wanted to beat the Chargers most of all.

869
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: It's right, I'll take whatever's coming next week. Well, this

870
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 3: is what's coming. And now greed is good, says.

871
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 4: It's twenty eighteen.

872
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: So twenty eighteen through twenty twenty two, the first five

873
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: years of Mahomes being a starter, five to zero divisional

874
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: playoff games at home.

875
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, then oh, let's see him go on the road.

876
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 4: They're going to run to be Buffalo, yeah, and then Ravens.

877
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 2: And then then the Ravens Nation championship games. So they've

878
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: gone to six STFC championship games. So they're undefeated with

879
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 2: mahomes in a divisional playoff game.

880
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's strong. That's incredibly strong.

881
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: It's incredible to think about.

882
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: And they lost to the Patriots in an AFC championship

883
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: game at home.

884
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 4: They lost to the Bengals in the AFT championship game.

885
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: That's right because both those are at home.

886
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: And now they're going to lose to the Texans in

887
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 3: a divisional game at home.

888
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: Look I mean happened?

889
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean it's the national media. And look, I'm

890
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: not going to complain about the national media. They got

891
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: they got a job to do. But it's already well,

892
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, who'd you rather play Buffalo or Buffalo or

893
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: Baltimore in the ANCY championship game at home at Kansas City, Like,

894
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: it's not even a consideration that we would go in there.

895
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: But there are some because we saw something on ESPN

896
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: today where they were talking about I cannot ignore Rex

897
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 3: Ryan said this, and they were repeating the line where

898
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: Lavsky and friends were repeating the line, I cannot ignore

899
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: what I just saw.

900
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: That's right, the.

901
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: Texans, that's rights exactly. The charger offensive line and doing

902
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 3: plenty on offense right to win the game, because I

903
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: think it's sort of understated, underrated what the Texans did

904
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter on offense. Yeah, exactly, mean, when

905
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: you could run the ball like that, when you grind

906
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: up seven minutes and cap the drive with a touchdown.

907
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 4: And they've done it this year.

908
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: They've done it this year where they've ended games like that.

909
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: Jackis Colts the Jags that game the other day. They've

910
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: done it where they've run the ball at the end

911
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: of the game, the Tennessee game, you know, same kind

912
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: of thing, just at the end, just running the ball,

913
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: running the ball to end this thing. So running the

914
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: ball was not easy. The first time we played them,

915
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: it was not. It ended up being kind of ugly.

916
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: Now we end up losing Shack in that game we

917
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 2: went to Kendrick, but in the end we ran the ball.

918
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: We ran it for eighty four yards. Joe had fourteen

919
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: for fifty seven.

920
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: It's not bad.

921
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: And CG had a couple of scrambles, but that was it.

922
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: We only ran it for eighty four. I was going

923
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: to do this later in the week before you continue.

924
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: You know how I like to bring in movie references.

925
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, are you ready for this one, because

926
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: it's going to relate to whatever you're just about to

927
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: tell me. You've seen the movie Cinderella Man. Yes, all right,

928
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: So Jimmy Braddock, we all know and this is semi

929
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: spoiler alert. During the Great Depression, he wasn't fighting anymore

930
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: because he broke his hand. He's working on the docks

931
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: and the left hand gets stronger. He's down on his luck.

932
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 3: Giamatti gives them the fight, or gets in the fight

933
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: at the garden, he knocks out corn Ferry. Right the

934
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: next fight, I think it's one of the next two fights,

935
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: he's taken on a fighter who beat him before when

936
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: he was fighting previous to the Depression, and that fighter

937
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: is having a rough time, gets into his corner and

938
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 3: his trainer said.

939
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 4: What's wrong with you?

940
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 3: You beat the hell out of this guy before, And

941
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 3: the fighter says, not the same guy, Not the same guy.

942
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: The Texans are not the same guy they were even

943
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 3: a month ago. They're not They're better. They had the

944
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: wake up call against the Chargers. Somehow magic through the air.

945
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: The ball bounced on the turf and it radiated through CJ.

946
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: Stroud's body and he was able to find X and

947
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: the world changed.

948
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: I'm not making it up. Something happened.

949
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: We all saw it and it was different, and they

950
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 3: ran the snut out of it with mix it in

951
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter.

952
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 4: They're gonna run the ball enough.

953
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm not predicting one hundred and fifty yards or whatever,

954
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: but they're gonna be able to move it a bit

955
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: on the ground at the very least, and CJ will

956
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: be effective enough to get you some points. Can you

957
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: stop Mahomes at the moment of truth?

958
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: So I know five years ago, five years ago we

959
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs.

960
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: That's the only time we've beaten the Chiefs since twenty sixteen,

961
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: and it's the only time we've beaten them with Mahomes

962
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: as the quarterback.

963
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: In that game.

964
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 2: I remember it distinctly because at halftime I was talking

965
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: to Bill O'Brien and then you would throw it down

966
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: to me out filter the message, and I remember him saying, Johnny,

967
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: we are just gonna keep pounding the ball. They can't

968
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: stop us that day. Take Deshawn's rushes out of there.

969
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: We were thirty one for one to fifty.

970
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: Thirty one carries one fifty.

971
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: Thirty one for one fifty Carlos hide and our time

972
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: of possession.

973
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 4: You ready, thirty eight or something.

974
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: Like thirty nine, forty eight, forty minutes.

975
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 4: I remember we had the ball, We held the ball,

976
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: and that was key. That was key.

977
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: Now I don't know the Chiefs are as explosive. They

978
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: don't have Tyreek. Now they've got Xavier and I mean

979
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: they're still kind of working their thing with Hollywood and

980
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: maybe they found something. But they only played together once. Yeah,

981
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: and after that they played the I take it back.

982
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: It was our game in the Steelers game, you know,

983
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: four days apart.

984
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 4: That's it. And then they haven't been back together.

985
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: So it's not like they've got a lot of synergy

986
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: that they can go pull from.

987
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: They got to kind of create it again against us.

988
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: But they've been able to have like a mini training

989
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: camp between Christmas this game.

990
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 2: To be able to kind of work on that. But

991
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to get boy. If you

992
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: got thirty nine minutes and forty eight seconds of time possession,

993
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: w you will win this game. You will win this

994
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: game now easier said than ton, no no doubt, no doubt.

995
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: And it's going to be tough against that that Chiefs front,

996
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: because that chief defense is much different than what it

997
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: was back then. Because that game in twenty nineteen there

998
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: was a certain player that didn't play that we will

999
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: face on Saturdays, Christ Jones, and a healthy Christ Jones,

1000
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: so we'll have to face him.

1001
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 4: So thirty one for one fifty probably not gonna happen.

1002
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: But I don't mind handing the ball to Joe Mixon

1003
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 2: because of the way that we run blocked last week.

1004
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: And I don't mind.

1005
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: Sticking to it until we've got to get away from

1006
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: it and hopefully and we don't make mistakes and we

1007
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: don't give them easy touchdowns, then maybe we can stick

1008
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: with that plan for full four quarters and see where

1009
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: we are.

1010
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: How about ball out quick? Look, No, Kate's stover, which

1011
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: I think is not the factor. It's a bit of

1012
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 3: a factor. They to replace Kate's factor. What do you

1013
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: think here, Quatoriano or Beck or both both?

1014
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: I think it might end up being both. Quittoriano give

1015
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: you some y in line block and stuff. You know,

1016
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: Beck can give you some of the move stuff. Was

1017
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 2: it in the game against the Chiefs where I remember

1018
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: them throwing a wheel route to Beck?

1019
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: Was that the Chiefs.

1020
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: There was one of the games where they did that

1021
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: where he hadn't been active and then they throw him

1022
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: in there and they're throwing the ball side on him,

1023
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: Like my god, Okay, let's do it. So I think

1024
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: you've got to have I mean, Stover has giving you

1025
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: a lot in your split zone blocking where you're wham blocking.

1026
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: You'd have to get that from Beck. I think you can.

1027
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: He's played this team before as a member of the

1028
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 2: Broncos and obviously a member of the Texans, So you know,

1029
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: hopefully that ends up being something that they're able to do.

1030
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: But you have to be able to run the ball.

1031
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: You cannot subsist on what you did the first time.

1032
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: But I think the first time. What's interesting is, you know,

1033
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: yards per carrier a pretty good You just had to

1034
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: get away from it at the end of the game,

1035
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: whereas in a nineteen game you just kept hide, hide, hide, hide,

1036
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: you know, for the rest of the ball game.

1037
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 4: Johnny, answer this for me.

1038
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: Why is it so difficult to throw the ball to

1039
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: Joe Mixon. In the game against the Chiefs, he had

1040
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 3: one catch even in the victory over the Chargers Round

1041
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: one wild Card weekend one catch is this just too

1042
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: much to ask. Is it not part of this offense?

1043
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: I thought it was a part of this offense. I

1044
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: too when we were coming into this thing. But let's

1045
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 3: see on the regular season. It's over now.

1046
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: I mean we're in the playoffs, so I really haven't

1047
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: like marked time.

1048
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: On the regular season. If the season were over, I'd

1049
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: be weighing out everything they did. But mixing thirty six catches,

1050
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: you tell me thirty six catches coming into the year,

1051
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: I would say I'd like to see more than that. Yeah,

1052
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: I'd like to see forty forty five somewhere in there.

1053
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: And that's not a ton of difference. But one or

1054
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: two per game in a few key games can mean

1055
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: a lot, can mean the other. You know, the possession

1056
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: gets extended, you pick up a third down, you do

1057
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: whatever you score. Let's see him get a three four

1058
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: catches in this game. You don't have Stover to throw

1059
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: to Stover at four catches against the Chargers, maybe Beck

1060
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: ends up with a couple. Maybe Coultriano he can catch

1061
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: the ball. Katoriano is a pretty good receiving tight end,

1062
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: even though he's not a typical receiving tight end.

1063
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: I think you have to get some inside. As Nick

1064
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: would call it, the interior passing game. Those guys have

1065
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: to the guys you mentioned Beck with Toriano, Mix and

1066
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: Pierce if he plays the running back.

1067
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 4: Some you've gotten Dari. You got to use those.

1068
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: Guys in the passing game as an extension of your

1069
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: run game. And every time he threw the ball at

1070
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: Stover I joked about it as we were talking about it,

1071
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: that's just a I mean, that's just literally.

1072
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 4: A running a run play. Yeah, great, that's fine.

1073
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: We're running the ball by throwing it to our title

1074
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: five yards out.

1075
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: Of a running player or a short pass play, high percise. Great.

1076
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: I think this is one of those situations where you're

1077
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,280
Speaker 2: going to against the Chiefs offense. You want to control

1078
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: the ball, leave them on the sideline, let them get rusty.

1079
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: Throw the ball Jaw on the backfield. I think it's

1080
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: one of those games where CJ.

1081
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: Would throw the ball to Jaw on the backfield. I

1082
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: think he would because the profit. Take what you take,

1083
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: the profit, keep taking it and then boom, hit a

1084
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: deep shot, and he's got to think that way. You know,

1085
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: there's no tank, there's no Steph. There may not even

1086
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: be a Robert Woods. We don't know what his status

1087
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: is gonna end up being. You've got to take the profit.

1088
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 2: Metsi's got to catch every ball, is throwing the money

1089
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: inside the formation. You know, Joe's got to get the

1090
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: ball and get out away from everybody and make things

1091
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: happen out in space.

1092
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: Now.

1093
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: I think if you do that, you extend the run game.

1094
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: That way, then you're gonna get other things in the

1095
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: passing game that you want. So I do think it's

1096
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: got to be, you know, left hand, right hand, Like

1097
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 2: you said, Cinderella, Man, we can't be the same fighter.

1098
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 4: We have to be a different fighter. Now.

1099
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: We can't just all of a sudden go run and

1100
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: shoot in five wives ago. No, but we just have

1101
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: to be different than we were the first time. Have

1102
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: them going back to the sideline after the first couple

1103
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 2: series going damn, they've done this.

1104
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: This is different.

1105
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: We got to adjust and how they adjust and then

1106
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: go from there.

1107
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: Seeing it all, they see it all.

1108
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 3: They'll adjust to It's gonna be sixty minute fight, they will.

1109
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: There's no question.

1110
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: All right.

1111
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 2: I got sixteen plays more of Mahomes to watch later tonight,

1112
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: but we got an injury report to look at coming

1113
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: up next right here in Texans All Access.

1114
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: All Right, here we go.

1115
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: Welcome back to a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access

1116
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. It's time to take

1117
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: a look at the injury report, and a big one

1118
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: on day two. Now I mentioned earlier the Chiefs, they

1119
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: don't have anybody in DMP category. They have one person

1120
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: and limited. That's Miko Hardman with a knee issue. And

1121
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: everybody else's full participation, including DJ Humphries who was hurt

1122
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: for the last game against the Texans. So they could

1123
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 2: even have Jalen Watson back. Now, big news is over

1124
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: on the Texans side. Joe Mixon added to the injury

1125
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: report with an ankle. He was a limited participant in practice.

1126
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: We saw him out there during the viewing period, but

1127
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: who knows, maybe something happened later. The other good news though,

1128
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: is that the Texans did have a zi's al Shire

1129
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: practicing in a limited capacity. Shaq Mason and Juice Scruggs

1130
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: all practice today, which is very helpful for that offensive line.

1131
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: Robert Woods the only DMP today dealing with that hip issue.

1132
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 2: He was out there but didn't practice or participate. Still's

1133
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: got Thursday and then probably a walk through on Friday

1134
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 2: before we take off and travel to Kansas City, show

1135
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: whether he could be ready to go. But good getting

1136
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: a zz shack and juice at least back at practice.

1137
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 2: But that Joe Mixon ankle injury troublesome to see him

1138
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: go on there as a limited participant with that ankle injury.

1139
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: Gotta keep Joe fresh. Okay, we get back.

1140
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: It's time to go.

1141
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: Men Behind the mics, Dan Israel, Chiefs game day host

1142
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: and executive producer for their Chiefs Radio network joints Mark

1143
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: Vandermin right here in Texans All Accident. All right, we go,

1144
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: one hour down, one hour left to go. Right here

1145
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: on a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access. I'm your host,

1146
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: John Harry, football analy sideline reporter for your Houston Texans

1147
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: as we get ready for a trip to Kansas City,

1148
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: flying up Friday, playing the game Saturday, and hopefully hopefully

1149
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: coming back for the first time in eight I'm sorry,

1150
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: first time in six tries coming home with a divisional

1151
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: playoff win.

1152
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 4: Boy.

1153
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: I just just saying those words, man, Holy cal will

1154
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: be so cool. I thought about this. I said this

1155
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: to Mark kind of off the air. I don't know,

1156
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: maybe they'll say it. I think I said on in

1157
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: the lab, but you'll hear a little bit later. The

1158
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: Texans have not led in the second half of a

1159
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: divisional playoff round game.

1160
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: In the second half, have not led. Now, obviously they.

1161
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: Led famously the last time in Kansas City, but never

1162
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: led in the second half.

1163
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: That hopefully is going to change.

1164
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: And when we do get that lead in the second half,

1165
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: hopefully that's going to be the energy this team needs

1166
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: to put it over the top and get Divisional playoff win.

1167
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: Number one is send the Texans to the AFC Championship Game.

1168
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 2: Now the Chiefs, well, they've been there before, and they

1169
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: have a lot of people that have contributed to that,

1170
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people in radio that have been a

1171
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 2: big part of it from the beginning. Market a chance

1172
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: to catch up with for our men behind the MIC's

1173
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: segment with Game Day host and executive producer Dan Israel.

1174
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: He gave us some of his thoughts about how this

1175
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: era of the Chiefs got rolling, thoughts on the matchup

1176
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 2: and what about a stadium update. There's trent a lot

1177
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 2: of noise about the State of Kansas putting together a

1178
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: plan to pull the Chiefs over to Kansas away from Missouri.

1179
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: So Dan gives a thought on that as well. Let's

1180
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 2: go men behind the mics with Dan Israel of the

1181
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: Kansas City.

1182
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 3: Chiefs joining us right now Texans Radio. Dan Israel, co

1183
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: host and executive producer of the Chiefs Radio Network.

1184
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,399
Speaker 4: Dan, great to have you with us.

1185
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: So for you you, I've been through this kind of

1186
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 3: thing an awful lot. And the Texans are in the

1187
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: divisional round for the second consecutive year, and of course

1188
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 3: played the Chiefs in twenty nineteen in this round. But

1189
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 3: what is this like for you being in the postseason constantly?

1190
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting. Mark. So my career spends back

1191
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 7: to the early eighties with the Chiefs. There were a

1192
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 7: lot of years that we never even sniffed close to

1193
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 7: this game, let alone you know, a super Bowl. And

1194
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 7: so really the past six years has been this embarrassment

1195
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 7: of riches where I've gotten to know all the ins

1196
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 7: and outs of every one of the while the playoff

1197
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 7: games and the Super Bowl, I don't feel like there's

1198
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 7: any surprises there for me, which is a really odd

1199
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 7: place to be because no team should get to do

1200
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 7: it that much. That that's the case, But for the Chiefs.

1201
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 7: That's just been the fortunate ways of my role.

1202
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because Andy Reid comes in in twenty

1203
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 3: thirteen and the Texans played there, Case Keenum gets his

1204
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 3: first start. It's a close game, but the Chiefs win.

1205
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen. Yeah, the opener at NRG Stadium, Chiefs win,

1206
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 3: and the closer the playoff game, and that was the

1207
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 3: first playoff win for the Chiefs in a long time.

1208
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: Could you reflect on the early years of the Andy

1209
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 3: Reid era in Kansas City because it wasn't Super Bowls

1210
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 3: right away.

1211
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 4: It was a building process, but he was winning.

1212
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 7: It was you know, he really kind of turned the

1213
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 7: staff around. When he got here. We had just come

1214
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 7: off a two and fourteen season, which is miserable, and

1215
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 7: things began to immediately change and it got better for us.

1216
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 7: It got funner for us, but we still hadn't won anything.

1217
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 7: And then there was that Nile Davis touchdown or that

1218
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 7: return for a touchdown in Houston in the wild card game.

1219
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 7: First first playoff game, first playoff victory in my career

1220
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 7: to I think nineteen ninety three when we went with

1221
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 7: Joe Montana, so some twenty years later, you know, it

1222
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 7: was a long time man, and we just kind of

1223
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 7: felt like, you know, there was this increasing level of

1224
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 7: patience because the team was getting better then we saw

1225
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 7: in week seventeen of the twenty seventeen season, we saw

1226
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 7: them start a rookie and let Alex Smith rest because

1227
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 7: we couldn't improve our position in the seating, and we

1228
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 7: saw something out of Patrick Maholmes that none of us

1229
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 7: had recognized, and it made us realize, Wow, this kid

1230
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 7: is the future, and the future he was shortly later

1231
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 7: months just a few months later, they traded Alex Smith

1232
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 7: to the Washington Washington Redskins, and off and running was

1233
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 7: the Mahomes era and it has been a roller coaster

1234
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 7: ride with him.

1235
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, no question, and you felt like you kind

1236
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: of knew it right away with that start to cap

1237
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: the twenty seventeen season. Tell me about twenty eighteen and

1238
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: how that went.

1239
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty eighteen was full of magic because we hadn't

1240
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 7: seen all these crazy throws. You know, the batman is

1241
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 7: left handed and throwing from off his feet, things that

1242
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 7: coaches always tell quarterbacks not to do. Here he's not

1243
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 7: only doing them, but he's having success with them. And

1244
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 7: you realized very quickly that the Chiefs were morphing their

1245
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 7: game to fit this generational talent, and Mahomes was just

1246
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 7: doing what he had always done, which is go out

1247
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 7: and play football, play backyard football. And I remember one

1248
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 7: time very vividly, at the beginning of that twenty eighteen season,

1249
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 7: Travis Kelcey was pretty upset because he and Alex Smith

1250
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 7: were very close and at one time he had told me,

1251
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 7: you know, dude, that's my quarterback. They just traded away

1252
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 7: and he wasn't happy. About three or four weeks into

1253
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 7: that season, I said, how are we feeling now? And

1254
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 7: he goes, unreal. He is unreal. I never thought it

1255
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 7: could happen. I later asked him. One time I had

1256
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 7: been at practice. I had seen one of these plays

1257
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 7: and they had put on and they kind of changed it.

1258
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 7: They called an autible on the field. So I went

1259
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 7: up to Mahomes in the locker room and I said, Hey,

1260
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 7: what made you throw that left instead of to the

1261
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 7: right like you always do in this play? And he said, well,

1262
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 7: I don't know. I just kind of felt like Kelsey

1263
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 7: was going to break left instead of right. So I

1264
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 7: immediately walked to Kelsey's locker and said, hey, what made

1265
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 7: you go left instead of right because I don't know,

1266
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 7: I just felt like Mahomes was going to throw it

1267
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 7: left instead of right. It's like sparrely, only two people

1268
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 7: in the locker room that knew what was going to

1269
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 7: happen on that play. It was crazy.

1270
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 3: Dan Israel joint So as co host and executive producer

1271
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 3: of the Chiefs Radio Network, I was going to ask

1272
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: you about that because I liking it to two guys

1273
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 3: playing basketball. Almost they just look for an open area

1274
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: and find each other somehow, obviously Mahomes finding Kelsey, but

1275
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: they do seem to have that telepathic connection. And sometimes

1276
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: I feel like Kelsey's not even running a round. He's

1277
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: just running to, Oh, this is the open area, I'll

1278
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: go there. I know it's more complicated than that, but

1279
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: how do you see it?

1280
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 7: Well, no, you're not far off from that. I think

1281
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 7: the thirteen second game, the divisional round playoff against the Bills,

1282
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 7: that's exactly what he told Mahomes. Hey, I'm not going

1283
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 7: to run my route. I'm just going to go where

1284
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 7: it's up and I'm going to split these two defenders

1285
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 7: and I'm going to sit down there where it's open.

1286
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 7: And sure enough, they connected for that. I think probably

1287
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 7: to some degree that Kelsey's experience as a high school

1288
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 7: quarterback taught him how to read defenses, because he's very

1289
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 7: good at it, and you don't usually see that in

1290
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 7: players outside of the quarterback. You know, some are better

1291
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 7: than others, but usually you know, you see a player,

1292
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 7: a wide receiver that just knows how to get open.

1293
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 7: He knows how to beat his guy. He doesn't know

1294
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 7: the entire defense. And Kelsey is not that way. Kelsey's

1295
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 7: of his football IQ, despite him being a playful character,

1296
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 7: his football a qu is through the roof. And I

1297
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 7: think those two share that in common, and I think

1298
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 7: they're good enough friends where that synergy, that bond that

1299
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 7: exists between them is something special, not only off the

1300
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 7: field but on the field.

1301
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 3: How have other areas of the offense evolved? I mean,

1302
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: we got to you to see Tyreek Hill and a

1303
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 3: Chiefs offense, and I know he's long gone now and

1304
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: they've adapted adjusted, running the ball with Pacheco, whoever's available,

1305
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt obviously this year a whole lot. But tell

1306
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 3: me about the evolution aside from Mahomes in this era

1307
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 3: with the Chiefs going to so many Super Bowls and

1308
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 3: AFC Championship games.

1309
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 7: You know, I think the biggest evolution mark is the

1310
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 7: is the shift to a defensive football team with Spagnolo.

1311
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 7: Last year it was defense, we had nothing going offense,

1312
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 7: and then suddenly the playoffs, you know, he looked a

1313
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 7: little bit more like a team that was going to

1314
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 7: go to the super Bowl. But I feel like, you know,

1315
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 7: the departure of Tyreek Hill, we kind of lost that

1316
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 7: speedster and they began to just kind of accept what

1317
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 7: the defense was going to give them. In in particular,

1318
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 7: Mahomes was going to accept what the defense would give them.

1319
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 7: But I feel like we never really had the talent

1320
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 7: to re surround Mahomes with all these tools and weapons,

1321
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 7: and that's something they did go out and kind of

1322
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 7: secure this year with the addition of Hollywood Brown with

1323
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 7: the Mids, he's in acquisition of DeAndre Hopkins, but these

1324
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 7: it just was an injury riddled front half of the

1325
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 7: season that I kind of feel like Andy Reid. I

1326
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 7: know everybody expects him just to coach well, but I

1327
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 7: kind of feel like he should get some discussion and

1328
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 7: Coach of the Year because for a while there we

1329
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 7: were dropping a starter every single week, and a lot

1330
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 7: of that was offensive guys. Now they'll get a lot

1331
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 7: of those guys. They've got a lot of those guys

1332
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 7: back for Shee Rice is not one of them, but

1333
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 7: you'll have the full compliment of receivers. They get a

1334
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 7: couple of the defensive guys back and Chris Jones and

1335
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 7: Jalen Watson. But I think it's a far more complimentary

1336
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 7: football team than what we were in twenty nineteen when

1337
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 7: we played, you know, in that first Super Bowl, where

1338
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 7: we could score at will. It was just a matter

1339
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 7: of time. The longer the game went, the worse it

1340
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 7: was for you that that Houston I still count that

1341
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 7: Houston playoff game in twenty nineteen is one of the

1342
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 7: greatest games I've ever been a part of. To be

1343
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 7: down twenty four to nothing, I realized this is probably

1344
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 7: for your listeners a little painful, but to not lose

1345
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 7: the locker room when you're down like that is something special,

1346
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 7: And you know, when you see it up close, you realize, wow,

1347
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 7: this is extraordinary. And so these guys are very adept

1348
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 7: at what it takes to play in the playoffs. They

1349
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 7: have a lot of playoff experience, and I think they're

1350
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 7: playing some of their most complimentary football that they've played

1351
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 7: in the last six seven years, and that includes on

1352
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 7: the offense. I mean, you got Andy Reid running the

1353
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 7: ball way more than I know Andy Reid wants to write.

1354
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah interesting.

1355
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 3: Dan Israel joining US co host and executive producer Chiefs

1356
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 3: Radio Network.

1357
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: That twenty nineteen game.

1358
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: The thing that always struck me about that and strikes

1359
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: me retrospectively is as fast as the Texans went up

1360
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: twenty four to zering, they blew the lead that quickly

1361
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: and trailed at the break by four, which is a

1362
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: total sugar high, and then crash and it was the

1363
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: Chief's day the rest of the day. But tell me this, Dan,

1364
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 3: the game the Texans played on December twenty first at

1365
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: Arrowhead Stadium, Chiefs win the game, obviously, What were your

1366
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 3: impressions of the tech and what are your impressions now,

1367
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: If they're different at all, Well, I.

1368
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 7: Think they're different in then I think you're a little

1369
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 7: more healthy, but scary. I think the Texans are one

1370
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 7: of those teams that'll sneak up on you. I think

1371
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 7: they like playing from an underdog position, and I you know,

1372
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 7: the old Bilichick days where he would take your best

1373
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 7: player and remove it from the game. That's what he

1374
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 7: would defend against. I feel like, to some degree, when

1375
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 7: a team's strengths match up against another team's weakness, it's scary.

1376
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 7: And when you got Danil Hunter and you've got Will

1377
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 7: Anderson on those edges against what we've been struggling with

1378
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 7: all year in offensive left tackle and offensive right tackle,

1379
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 7: it scares me. I know we always say games are

1380
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 7: one and lost in the trenches, but I really feel

1381
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 7: like that's going to be the case in this playoff

1382
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 7: game that coming this Saturday, simply because of those two guys.

1383
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 7: You have a strong defensive line, our offensive line struggles,

1384
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 7: and then vice versa. Conversely, healthy Chris Jones is going

1385
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 7: to come and he's going to have to knock. You know,

1386
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 7: he's gonna have to move C. J. Stroud out of

1387
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 7: the pocket if CD Stroud gets comfortable. He's one of

1388
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 7: those guys. He's one of these up and coming quarterbacks

1389
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 7: that can do at all and the last thing you

1390
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 7: want to give that guy's confidence, you know. So I

1391
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 7: really feel like your strengths match up against our weaknesses,

1392
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 7: which I don't particularly care for. I was a little

1393
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 7: surprised the game wasn't closer at you know, earlier this year,

1394
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 7: but I expect this one to be completely different. Playoffs

1395
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 7: are just different. It's a tick up.

1396
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: Right, absolutely different kind of stage, different kind of intensity.

1397
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: Tell me something. Arrowhead is such a tremendous place to go.

1398
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,919
Speaker 3: I always tell people this is one of the real

1399
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 3: legendary places to be to watch an NFL game. But

1400
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: what is the latest on stadium renovation, a new stadium.

1401
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: What can you tell the listeners in Houston about what

1402
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are planning or working on?

1403
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 7: You know, it's a little bit strange. I think the

1404
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 7: one thing that is kind of a sured is that

1405
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 7: the Chiefs will stay in Kansas City, but Kansas is

1406
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 7: making a full on run to bring them to that

1407
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 7: side of the state. For people don't know, Kansas City, Missouri.

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01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 7: Kansas City actually sits on the border of Missouri in Kansas,

1409
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 7: so half the metro is in Kansas, half is in Missouri.

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01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 7: And for a long time, it's you know, forty to

1411
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 7: fifty sixty years, this franchise has been in Missouri and

1412
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 7: Kansas wants a shot at it. So it's interesting to

1413
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 7: see these politicians duking it out. But here's still one

1414
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 7: thing I can tell you. You know, our County commission

1415
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 7: had said, well, I just don't think it's fair that

1416
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 7: an owner, you know, not have to pay for his

1417
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 7: own stadium. Well, that's just the way of the world, man,

1418
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 7: that's not going to happen. You know. The Hunts have

1419
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 7: been a great ownership, but they're not going to pay

1420
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 7: for something to stay in Missouri. They're not gonna pay

1421
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 7: two billion dollars to stay in Missouri when Kansas has

1422
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 7: said we'll build you a down stadium for free. Uh,

1423
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 7: there's a lot to unpack here. Still. The one thing

1424
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 7: I think that from Kansas City and Standpoint is just

1425
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 7: there's saying here. It just may be a longer drive

1426
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 7: for me because I live both of the stadium.

1427
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and I was going to ask you, I mean,

1428
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 3: how far are we talking here? A half hour forty

1429
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 3: five minutes. It's still in the metro area. Like you said,

1430
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Speaker 3: it's kind of like the Eagles if they had played

1431
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: in New Jersey and the Giants and Jets already play

1432
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 3: in New Jersey.

1433
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: So would it be that type of thing?

1434
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, you can't drive more than an hour

1435
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 7: from Edge to edge in the metro areas. So I

1436
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 7: think if they moved to the Kansas side and they

1437
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 7: it's been talked to, they'll put it out by the speedway.

1438
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 7: That would be about as far as you could get it.

1439
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 7: You know, for people on my side of the town

1440
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 7: where most of the population is, it'd be a forty

1441
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 7: minute drive. And you know, as grab it as Chiefs

1442
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 7: fans are, I don't think anybody will think twice about that,

1443
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 7: especially if the facilities are you know, Arrowheads now the

1444
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 7: third oldest stadium I believe in the league. I think

1445
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 7: just Soldier Field and in Lambeau are older. So I think,

1446
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 7: you know there the amenities there could well make up

1447
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 7: for the increased drive time. But we'll see. It's definitely

1448
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 7: the fight is not over.

1449
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 3: It'd be so weird to have the Chiefs play indoors,

1450
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: just like the Bears.

1451
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 4: Indoors just doesn't feel right.

1452
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 3: But we'll see how it goes because I know that

1453
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 3: you can get other events if that's the case. Dan,

1454
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: thanks so much for the time. We appreciate it. Look

1455
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 3: forward to seeing you on Saturday.

1456
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 7: My pleasure. Yeah, we'll see you then.

1457
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 2: Man, it was some great stuff with Dan Israel game

1458
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:28,919
Speaker 2: Day host executive producer for the Chiefs Radio Network. Coming

1459
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: up next, we're going into lab. Drew and I got geeky,

1460
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: we got excited. We did our little nerdy thing. We

1461
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: got a lot of little nuggets for you coming up next,

1462
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: including our cream of the Crop players for this game.

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01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: Who does It Have to Be Mine? Is a group?

1464
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: You understand it when we get there. Next, it's in

1465
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: the lab on Texans All Access, playoff wins, playoff opportunities,

1466
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: trips to Kansas City, all these things happening in the

1467
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: last oh, I don't know, four or five days obviously,

1468
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: one upcoming with the Chiefs. Drew Doherty and I go

1469
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 2: in the lab to discuss it all.

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Speaker 8: Right here, John, it's great to be here with you,

1471
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 8: and it's great to be here with our our third

1472
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 8: wheel here, no, not a third will you're our third

1473
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 8: part of the trinity here? Well, but no, we're not

1474
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 8: getting too holy anyways. It's the three of us. We're

1475
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 8: doing this thing here, Me, you and you. And it's

1476
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 8: always good to do this in the month of January

1477
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 8: because it means you've done something really, really, really well.

1478
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 8: But let's set the stage. Let's set the stage this

1479
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 8: weekend you can go and the Texans can do something

1480
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 8: they've never done in their franchise history, get a win

1481
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 8: in the Divisional round of the playoffs and play in

1482
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,959
Speaker 8: an AFC title game the week after. It's gonna be tough,

1483
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 8: it's gonna be hard. It's gonna be an opponent that

1484
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 8: is gunning for a three peet. Everyone and everything is

1485
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 8: stacked against you, presumably, so you're playing the best quarterback

1486
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 8: in the world, a future Hall of Famer. You've got

1487
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 8: the best tight end in the land and over the

1488
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 8: last few years in Travis Kelsey. His girlfriend Taylor Swift

1489
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 8: is going to be in the ability. This is a monster, monster,

1490
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 8: monster opportunity. And I think the Texans are ready for it. John,

1491
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 8: you know they're ready for it. I'm not, I'm not

1492
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 8: guaranteeing any winters. Yeah, yeah, but they are ready for it,

1493
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 8: and they're playing their best football right now.

1494
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: I think there are their number of things. I agree

1495
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,959
Speaker 2: with you, and I think there are a couple of things.

1496
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: First of all, health, I remember last year going to

1497
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: Baltimore and I just remember, Gosh, I hope that our

1498
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: defensive line can hold up. They're so banged up, oh,

1499
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: banged up, And that was a that was a massive thing.

1500
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: And then we held in there for half and then

1501
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: just eventually lamar and and the rest of the run

1502
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 2: game just kind of, you know, wore down our defensive line.

1503
01:05:58,040 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: First of all, I think our defensive line is healthier,

1504
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: h and as healthy as it's been in a long time.

1505
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 8: And just like two left crew as nasty as they want.

1506
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: To be, that's right, And they were incredible against the Chargers.

1507
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: Now you also got the Chargers to a.

1508
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: Point where they had to abandon whatever run game they had,

1509
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 2: which wasn't much on Saturday and becomes solely worth throwing it.

1510
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: And if you get in that mode against this defense,

1511
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough.

1512
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 4: I don't care who's back there. I know that gets tougher.

1513
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: Against Mahomes than anybody else because of how he creates.

1514
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: But if you can get them one dimensional, you've got

1515
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 2: a much better opportunity to win a game than not.

1516
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: But as far as being ready and you're gonna feel ready,

1517
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna and that's the biggest thing. You're gonna feel

1518
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: ready mentally, I think they're gonna be there. Now when

1519
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: you walk back in that stadium on Saturday and you

1520
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: remember back to December. That game was mentally and physically grueling,

1521
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: probably more mental than it was physical. Tank in that

1522
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 2: game all the injuries yet Jimmy Ward got hurt, Shack

1523
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: Mason got hurt.

1524
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 4: Uh and of course.

1525
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: The one that probably left the biggest impression was Tank

1526
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: got hurt. Yeah, So you have to mentally overcome that

1527
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 2: early in the game, make something good happen early with

1528
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: stands some of the blows. And I know a lot

1529
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 2: of people that are Texas fans, oh twenty four to

1530
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 2: not then they remember all that.

1531
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: You know, it's on the team at that point. You

1532
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: who played in that game.

1533
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 8: At that point, Larmie Tunseel, Titus Howard, John Weekes, Tammy Fairburn.

1534
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: Larmie Tunseel, Tys Howard didn't play Oh yeah right, Yeas

1535
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: was hurting. Yeah, and you're two specialists, and so it

1536
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: was one player changed. It was one player. So these

1537
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: guys don't have that history, and I think that's good.

1538
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 2: They don't have that history. So you just go play.

1539
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: You play your game. You play it the way you've

1540
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: played it this year, with hopefully some more confidence that

1541
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: you earned and gained in that win over the Chargers.

1542
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: So as far as being ready, yeah, I think they're

1543
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: They're much more physically and mentally ready to tackle this challenge.

1544
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of there's so many different

1545
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: nuggets about going to the divisional playoff round, Drew, do

1546
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: you realize we have never led in the second half

1547
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 2: of a divisional playoff game. We've never led five of them.

1548
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 8: It's amazing here, You've only led what in twelve when

1549
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 8: Daniel Manning returned the kickoff and got tripped by the kicker,

1550
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 8: but that didn't get called right, got tripped shy the

1551
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 8: goal on and then you had to kick a field

1552
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 8: goal because you throw a touchdown in the end zone

1553
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 8: and gets dropped, but you kick a field That's like

1554
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 8: the only time you've led, right and twelve? Did we

1555
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 8: ever did the texts?

1556
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 4: We led in Kansas City?

1557
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 8: Oh well, you let in eleven because you kicked the

1558
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 8: field goal early too, right.

1559
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you led in Kansas City twenty four to nothing, famously,

1560
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: But in the second half you have not. I mean

1561
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: the first four games you played, it was seventeen thirteen

1562
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: and half. The fifth game you played, Oh no, I'm sorry,

1563
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 2: it was seventeen thirteen, seventy thirteen like the first three

1564
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 2: and then it was twenty eight twenty four. You trailed

1565
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: by four at every halftime, just four at every halftime.

1566
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: But then the second half turned into what it turned into.

1567
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 2: But you've never led in the second half last year.

1568
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: You're tied, you get the Steven Simms return, you tie

1569
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: it at ten, you missed the field goal, but you

1570
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: still feel pretty good, like, okay, we're tied at ten.

1571
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 4: We're good.

1572
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: And then you have a couple opportunities on that ensuing drive,

1573
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 2: the first drive of the third quarter to make a

1574
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 2: defensive play. You don't make it. Lamar has the quarterback

1575
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: draw and the way you go now, all of a sudden,

1576
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: it's just downhill. I got a feeling that you'll have

1577
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 2: a lead in the second half in this game. I

1578
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: hope you do, and then it's gonna be guts and

1579
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: grit to get to the end.

1580
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: But you can't think about that way.

1581
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: It's got to be just let's win this play, gone

1582
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: win the next play, and that's it. And I think

1583
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: about the grand aspect of doing something you've never done before.

1584
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: But I remember making a list through at the beginning

1585
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 2: of the year. So the beginning year, we had never won,

1586
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: never beaten Minnesota, and then we got to wait a

1587
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 2: few years for that. We had never won in Dallas,

1588
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 2: did that, we did that. We never won in New England,

1589
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: we did that. We had never beaten Lamar Jackson. Yeah, well,

1590
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: you know, we haven't gotten there yet, but we could

1591
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to do that. Yeah, the one that

1592
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: I never threw in there because I didn't want to, Like,

1593
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: we've never been to an AFC championship game. I e,

1594
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 2: we've never won in the divisional playoff round. So here's

1595
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: another never going back to the scene of one of

1596
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: the most I don't even know what you would call it.

1597
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 8: Cataclysmic. It's cataclysmic, there's no I.

1598
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: Mean, I was asked on I want your thoughts on this.

1599
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 4: I was asked on Wednesday morning.

1600
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 2: I did my Textags interview, which EDDI weekly, and they

1601
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: asked me about that game. And I remember my friend

1602
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 2: David Duno, as the host said, it's been you know,

1603
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 2: a short time. I'm like, yeah, if five years doesn't

1604
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: feel like a whole lot, that's because of what we

1605
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 2: all went through working exactly, and I think that's the

1606
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 2: that's the point. Yeah, And so they didn't really ask

1607
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 2: me this, But I kind of asked myself this, So

1608
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 2: I'll ask you if you knew leaving Arrowhead Stadium January

1609
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, that we could go back to Arrowhead twenty

1610
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: twenty five, not really knowing kind of anything that happens,

1611
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: or maybe knowing everything that happens. Then they tell you

1612
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 2: this is what's gonna happen over these three years. It's

1613
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: gonna be miserable. But then you get to this place

1614
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: on the other side. There's a big part of me

1615
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: that says, Okay, I'll take the pain. I could get

1616
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: through the pain, and we can get to the other side,

1617
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 2: because I know where that's going to eventually go.

1618
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 4: What do you think would you have taken that? No?

1619
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 8: I would rather would rather not now. I would have

1620
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 8: rather like gone back the very next year and beaten

1621
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 8: them in one Super Bowl, and I don't know, a

1622
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 8: different cast of characters, you know. Yeah, we're more calloused

1623
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 8: now in a good sort of way because we saw

1624
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 8: some things and went through some things and it was

1625
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 8: miserable around here for three three seasons. Yeah, if you

1626
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 8: go right back the next year, you don't have Demico Ryans,

1627
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 8: you don't have c. J. Stroud, ready all that stuff, but.

1628
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: Change the time continuum, as Martin would say.

1629
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 8: No, it just it takes me still, like bringing this

1630
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 8: up still takes me back to that day in late

1631
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 8: January early February of twenty twenty three when I hear

1632
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:42,640
Speaker 8: a roar. I'm sitting at my desk and I hear

1633
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 8: a rar on the other side of the business off side,

1634
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 8: and like, I see the tweet saying that Demiico Ryans

1635
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 8: is going to be the new head coach of the Texans.

1636
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 8: It wasn't from the inside the building. It was, you know,

1637
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 8: somebody reporting, and I'd seen the lead up to it,

1638
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 8: like I knew he's he interviewed and so on and

1639
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 8: so forth. But I was like, nine makes two much sense.

1640
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 8: And the way things have gone down around here the

1641
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 8: last three years, it's not going to happen, you know,

1642
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 8: It's just not going to happen. Makes too much sense.

1643
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,919
Speaker 8: That's too much a fairy tale. He's too perfect a candidate.

1644
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 8: And by golly, he comes around the pillar near my

1645
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 8: desk and I pop up, I see him. He's like oo,

1646
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 8: I mean yeah it. I'm glad he's here, you know,

1647
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 8: And and I'm pumped about this weekend. But yeah, I

1648
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,879
Speaker 8: wouldn't want to go through that again. I was such stucked.

1649
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: I remember that day being in I was at Sener

1650
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: Bowl and I've been to Senior Bowl for two years

1651
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:39,440
Speaker 2: prior to and I think I told the story I

1652
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: I was checking in the year before and I got

1653
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 2: my credential, and of course I had to say it

1654
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 2: was with Houston Texans all that kind of stuff.

1655
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 4: And I'm walking at Giggles and I heard.

1656
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 2: Some jackasses over there giggling about like the Texans, and

1657
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to say something, because I'm that guy I typically.

1658
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 4: Will say something. I was like, you know, I'll just

1659
01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 4: leave it.

1660
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 2: The next year, I'm down on the field and I've

1661
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 2: got guys coming up to me.

1662
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 4: And going, hey, hey, is it true? Is it true?

1663
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I mean, I've heard, you know, saying

1664
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 2: stuff you guys have. I I'm not, you know, put

1665
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: my eggs in that basket yet, but man, I hope

1666
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 2: it happens.

1667
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 4: I hope it happens.

1668
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: And literally thirty minutes later, looked down and I get

1669
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: the text and it's like it happened, and I just

1670
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: remember what they were saying. They're like, man, you guys

1671
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: need that to happen, You need that to have be like, yeah,

1672
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: I'd love for that to happen.

1673
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 4: And then it did. I was like, I.

1674
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 2: Remember sitting there, standing there at the scenerope, going do

1675
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 2: this thing just change overnight? This thing just changed. They're like, oh, okay, well,

1676
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: you know, we'll see how it goes.

1677
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 4: It did. It changed right then and there.

1678
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 8: And then they tripled down with the moves on draft night.

1679
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 8: That's right, that's right. I mean, and you know, God,

1680
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 8: you moved back up to get Will Anderson, you know.

1681
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 2: And I hear all this through, you know, as we

1682
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: you know, as we're kind of going off in a tangent.

1683
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: But still, yeah, I think it's important to realize because

1684
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: you hear all this right now, it's that time of

1685
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 2: year where, you know, you've got places like the Raiders

1686
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: they've got a GM and head coach opening. And I

1687
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 2: saw some source say, well, you know, the Raiders, you know,

1688
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: wanted to have continuity or whatever, and so they fight

1689
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: their GM. And I remember thinking, well, Nick and Dimiko

1690
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 2: didn't know each other. Yeah, they didn't know each other

1691
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: at all. And then you know, now look at them

1692
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,640
Speaker 2: and it's it's a it's a great partnership and they

1693
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: work together, and I'm like, it can't happen if you

1694
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 2: have the right people, it can't happen.

1695
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 8: Because there was an idea out there that any anyone

1696
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 8: New England associated, which Nick Cassiro has background, was with

1697
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 8: the Patriots. Oh well, not gonna work with anybody.

1698
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 4: Right side of that, exactly, exactly.

1699
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: So much for all that, Yeah, so much for all that,

1700
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: And now here we are.

1701
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 8: Now here we are, and thank goodness, thank goodness, one

1702
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 8: more thing before we get into raising the glass, before

1703
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 8: we get into cream of the crop. I love this

1704
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 8: defensive line. You've never really gone this deep into the

1705
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 8: playoffs with this high equality of defensive line.

1706
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 7: Right.

1707
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 8: You've had better players having better seasons than JJ Watt okay,

1708
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 8: but you've never had across the board this effective, this

1709
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 8: nasty a spear yep, you know, like they're the tip

1710
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 8: of the spear. So the defensive line. And then in

1711
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 8: tandem with that, you've never had an all pro corner

1712
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 8: like Stingley and I think playing at a Pro Bowl level,

1713
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 8: Kamari Lassiter.

1714
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then.

1715
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 8: The linebackers, what they're doing is he's a'll Shire and

1716
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 8: disease was not there against the Chiefs. He was serving

1717
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 8: the suspension. He was in the suspension.

1718
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: Neither fully thought of COSTI neither was fully one.

1719
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1720
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 8: So, and you sprinkle in Christian Harris, see how much

1721
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 8: he plays. But Henry Toto, who you've You've made the point.

1722
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:46,560
Speaker 8: I mean, he's been one of your top three or

1723
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 8: four defensive players all season long. He's playing at a

1724
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 8: super super high level. Only in year two. Yep, that's

1725
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 8: a delicious thing. You've never gone armed with a defense

1726
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 8: like this into a title game. I think you'd say,

1727
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 8: is that eleven bunch the Ravens. They were really good,

1728
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 8: that Texans defense that year. But I don't know that

1729
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 8: you can say the defensive line all the way across

1730
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 8: was good.

1731
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 2: But they were healthy and they're playing well together. That

1732
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: twenty eleven butch and that's where they held the Ravens

1733
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:16,719
Speaker 2: to twenty points.

1734
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 1: The twenty sixteen group.

1735
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: Was playing without what but Clowney and Merciless were playing

1736
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 2: at an incredible level, and they that night they made

1737
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: Brady's life miserable. They were dominant that night. They just

1738
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: didn't have the offensive firepower to kind of match just

1739
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 2: what the Patriots were bringing.

1740
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:49,719
Speaker 8: But having the tandem of Will and Hunter and then

1741
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 8: throwing in de Nico Autri and on top of that

1742
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 8: Thoughtocosi like you're saying Mario.

1743
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,520
Speaker 4: Edwards, he's been phenomenal.

1744
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 8: Tim Settle, I mean, that's that's a lot. I didn't

1745
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 8: even say. Derek Barnett, Dude, he scored two touchdowns this year.

1746
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 8: I mean that's yeah.

1747
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 2: And don't forget Tommy Togi. I out standing pick up man.

1748
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 2: This guy he was twenty dollars you found in your pocket. Yeah,

1749
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: I mean it's unbelievable to think about what that guy

1750
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 2: is finning.

1751
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 8: Is ready to rock too. He's been a numbers casual.

1752
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. He can get good snaps, yep.

1753
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 8: I mean you've never gone in you had great players

1754
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 8: and you've had great lines. That's how good this one is.

1755
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 4: Yep.

1756
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: Now to beat these guys and we'll get this on

1757
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: our cream and the crop players.

1758
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 4: Yes, but you have to be.

1759
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: That and then some because they got championship pedigree, So

1760
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 2: you've got to beat them in the pedigree knowing, hey,

1761
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 2: they know even if we get up big on them,

1762
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: like hey they're at fourteen nothing, so what we beat

1763
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 2: them five years ago?

1764
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: We got a lot of same guys will come right

1765
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: back on them, you know.

1766
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 2: And so this the mental and physical wherewithal you've got

1767
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: to have to.

1768
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: Beat them in their building. In the playoffs.

1769
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: It's been done twice Patriots burrow in the Bengals. Yep,

1770
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 2: that's it. Eighteen and twenty one, that's it. Other than that,

1771
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: it's been a Chiefs run through the AFC. So you're

1772
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 2: fighting all that. And they've never since Patrick Mahons to

1773
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: go over started, they've never lost a divisional playoff round.

1774
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm all for first.

1775
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 8: Let's go make some NFL history and let's raise a medela.

1776
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 8: Let's raise a glass to playing this deep into the postseason.

1777
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 8: It's a beautiful thing. Texans and the Chiefs in the

1778
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 8: divisional round round two. And yeah, you're decidedly the underdogs. Yep,

1779
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 8: but you're some underdogs with some fangs.

1780
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 4: Man, that's right. You can do such.

1781
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 8: Fun, fun things. Okay, time to bring in the third member.

1782
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 8: Excuse me, I guess will be the fourth member of

1783
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 8: this podcast, Randy Macho Man Savage. Yes, with the cream

1784
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 8: of the crop, which means, if you're new to the podcast,

1785
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 8: every time we do in the lab, we when we're

1786
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 8: in season the pinpoint a guy. If the Texans are

1787
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 8: to win this weekend, it will be because this player

1788
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 8: I choose one, and your player, you choose one. Were

1789
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 8: the cream of the crop. So I'm gonna choose this guy.

1790
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 4: You go first.

1791
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 8: He could have won Cream of the Crop last Weekendo Autrey.

1792
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 8: It's a pop like it's that extra point block which

1793
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 8: snuffed out any momentum I think from that Lab Macconkie touchdown,

1794
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 8: because they could have they could have messed with you late.

1795
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 8: You know, it could have gotten some something going, some

1796
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 8: mojo working, and he he blocked that and uh got

1797
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 8: returned for the score and he also had a sack.

1798
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with Denico Autry. He's nasty. What did

1799
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 8: we hear from Nick Casserio before the season started? Right

1800
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 8: after you sign him, He's a real pain in the ass.

1801
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 8: For Nick's words, he's mean, he's tough, he's a he's

1802
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,679
Speaker 8: a guy that you do not want to have to face.

1803
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 8: And he's You've got the easy choices in Daniel Hunter,

1804
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 8: Will Anderson Jeer. They can be your Cream of the

1805
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 8: Crop award winners every single time. Basic, I mean, easy

1806
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 8: to go with them, But now you're mixing in him

1807
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 8: with Barnett, Like we just went over this, I'm going

1808
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 8: with Denico Autry. He's heating up as the games continue

1809
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 8: to get more and more important. I like what you

1810
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 8: got with him. And he was integrated with Hunter and

1811
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 8: Anderson on plenty of sets last week and kind of

1812
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 8: playing inside a little bit right.

1813
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, and that's where he was his first rush

1814
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 2: on Jamaris Sawyer. So there's a technique called long arm,

1815
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 2: and it's pretty simple. It basically is, when you rush,

1816
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 2: you extend your inside arm with as much power as

1817
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: you possibly can.

1818
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 4: You kind of aim at the via the neck.

1819
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 2: That's kind of the aiming point, and the point is

1820
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 2: you want to kind of lift the guy up. And

1821
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 2: he not only lifted him up, he put Jamaras Sawyer

1822
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 2: on his wallet.

1823
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: That's set up his sack later. So I didn't see

1824
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: that rush.

1825
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 2: But when I went back and I watched the game

1826
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: and I saw that, I was like, oh, he was

1827
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 2: setting it up. So he set him up with a

1828
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 2: long arm, put on his wallet, didn't get a sack,

1829
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: but later he gets the sack. By now it's faking

1830
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 2: the long arm and then going over with a swim move.

1831
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 4: And what a saw you doing.

1832
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 2: He's bracing, so he kind of lunges out, makes a

1833
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 2: swim move that much easier, goes and gets a sack

1834
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 2: on Herbert.

1835
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 4: The sack, how you know, the pass.

1836
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: Rush order in some sense, setting guys up with a

1837
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 2: veteran like Denico Autry is huge, huge, And I just

1838
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 2: I love that part.

1839
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 8: Think about all the stuff these guys, the offensive linemen

1840
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 8: have to think about. Yeah, ponder and anticipate. And it's

1841
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 8: one thing to do it against a really good guy.

1842
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 8: That's hard enough. But now you're you're integrating so much somebody,

1843
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 8: I mean stars defensively yep, on that front line that

1844
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 8: you gotta you gotta, so you have so much to

1845
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 8: have to worry about. So and I wonder how much

1846
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 8: you've held back, Like you didn't you showed him stuff.

1847
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: Right before Christy. What a good point, good point.

1848
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 2: Now there there are things you probably couldn't even show

1849
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: because he didn't have to nosease, My creamy of the

1850
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 2: crop is actually gonna be kind of a crop. It

1851
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 2: is every pass catcher not named Nico Collins because obviously

1852
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: Dante Johnson no longer here. But and X makes that

1853
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 2: big catch. But Kate Stover had four catches for twenty

1854
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: eight yards the other day, and he's one and I are.

1855
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: You know, Dalton had a couple of catches. That's got

1856
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: to go up. Metchi had a couple of really tough

1857
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: moments in that game. He's got to play with a

1858
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: higher sense of urgency, catching everything yards after the catch.

1859
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: Robert Woods I thought played pretty well, had two catches

1860
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: for twenty two yards, but then he did. He didn't

1861
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: practice on Tuesday, so hopefully that gets better throughout the week.

1862
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 2: Jared Wayne is now up to the fifty three man roster.

1863
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 2: She's gotta do something, and I know that's gonna be

1864
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 2: a tough one for him because he's going back to

1865
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: where you know, he was involved.

1866
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 4: Unfortunately with that Tank Dell injury.

1867
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 2: You've got to have a pass catcher or past catchers

1868
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 2: step up beyond Nico Collins. Look, it's great if Nico

1869
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: catches seven four hundred and fifty or ten for one

1870
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 2: thirty or whatever.

1871
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 4: He's the stud.

1872
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks he is twelve for two fifty.

1873
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care what he does. But the the other.

1874
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: Guys, everybody else not named Nico, have got to step up.

1875
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 2: We've lost Tank, we've lost Steph no longer here lost

1876
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson. Now you've lost Kate Stover. There are a

1877
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 2: lot of weapons that are now gone. In fact, you're two.

1878
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: Let me look at it this way. There extinctly had

1879
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 2: two interceptions for seventy yards. Eric Murray had one interception

1880
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: for thirty eight yards. If you put them into the

1881
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: receiving category, they would have been receivers two and three

1882
01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 2: in the yardage order. Yeah, so you gotta get your

1883
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 2: wide receivers to step up and make some plays because

1884
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are gonna challenge Nico and CJ by taking

1885
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 2: away Nico. Like, look, we're not letting Nico beat us.

1886
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: You other guys are gonna have to beat us. And

1887
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: those guys are gonna have to step up and beat them.

1888
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: And if they do, got a good chance, if they're

1889
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 2: the cream of the crop that we want them to be,

1890
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 2: then we'll be fine.

1891
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 4: We'll be fine. It might mean more to Joe Mixon.

1892
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 4: I don't care.

1893
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 2: It might be more to Damian Pierce. I don't care

1894
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 2: what the past catcher is or who it is. But

1895
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: somebody else has got to step up and make plays

1896
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 2: in the passing game that's not named Nico Collins.

1897
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 8: If it's more to mixing and pierced by a fault,

1898
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 8: you're chewing clock up.

1899
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: If that's yeah, absolutely, and that's a good thing, a

1900
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: different way to run the ball. Yeah, absolutely, That's what

1901
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 2: Caige's catches were. Caid Silver's catches were just an extension

1902
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: of the run game.

1903
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 1: And I'm fine with that. I'm totally fine with that.

1904
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: But who's that Who's that guy gonna be or who

1905
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: those guys gonna be that can do that for you?

1906
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 8: On Saturday, Schultz looked solid against the Chiefs last time around.

1907
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 4: Gonna need him, need him.

1908
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: Ah got to catch everything, has to catch everything thrown

1909
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 2: his way.

1910
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 8: Can't wait. All right, Hey, let's do this again next week,

1911
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 8: because if we do, we're doing it in uncharted territory.

1912
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 2: John, Yeah, As both Drew and I are longtime residents

1913
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,759
Speaker 2: of the city of Houston, and we've been working together

1914
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 2: since twenty fourteen. I think we've dreamt of many times

1915
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 2: going to the AFC Championship Game. Many many times. We

1916
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 2: have sat in the studio, we have talked about it

1917
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 2: on air, we've talked about it off air, and just

1918
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 2: what it would feel like to go.

1919
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 1: To the AFC Championship Game.

1920
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 2: Just that game, And yeah, we've dreamt about Super Bowls

1921
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff, but it's like, get

1922
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 2: to the AFC Championship Game. Twenty nineteen was the one

1923
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: that we did for a long time because we had

1924
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 2: beaten Kansas City. We knew were going back to Kansas City,

1925
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 2: and having beaten them once, we felt like we can

1926
01:26:58,479 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: beat him again.

1927
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: The night before, we.

1928
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 2: Watched the Titans beat the Ravens in Baltimore, and we're like,

1929
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 2: the Titans would have to come to our place, We'll

1930
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: hammer them.

1931
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 4: We'll go to the super Bowl.

1932
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 2: Like we had all these kind of thoughts we talked

1933
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: about on the bus and the way of the game,

1934
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,440
Speaker 2: and of course it didn't happen for a number.

1935
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: Of reasons, but just something we've dreamt about.

1936
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 2: And I know we're not unlike many of you, dreaming

1937
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: about going to THEFC Championship Game sixty minutes away, but

1938
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: it's got to be sixty minutes of the best Texans

1939
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 2: football they have played in twenty twenty four. What happened

1940
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 2: last Saturday was important because I think it drew upon

1941
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 2: some of those things. But those aspects have got to

1942
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: come out in a big way on Saturday against Patrick

1943
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 2: Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs. Okay, the NFL is

1944
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 2: not stopping even with all this football being played, as

1945
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: it retains to GMS coaching searches. There's a name being

1946
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: thrown around for a potential opening in Dallas that is

1947
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 2: very interesting. We'll kind of go around the NFL and

1948
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 2: see what the coaching and GM carousel looks like right

1949
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Speaker 2: now on Texans All Access.

1950
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Speaker 1: All Right, here we go, final segment.

1951
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 2: On a Wednesday, they shard Texans All Access John Harris,

1952
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:18,480
Speaker 2: football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.

1953
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: Let's go around the NFL.

1954
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:24,839
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things happening that some playoff things happening,

1955
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 2: but also a lot of GM coach carousel things happening.

1956
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 2: It starts with the news we got today about an

1957
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 2: AFC South team going to Berlin. The Indianapolis Colts will

1958
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 2: go to Germany for the second straight year. Second straight year. No,

1959
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, two out of three. They went in twenty

1960
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 2: twenty three and they beat the Patriots in Germany. But

1961
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: I think that was that was not in Berlin, that

1962
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: was Frankfurt, I believe. So they're now going back in

1963
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, So that's the only thing that we

1964
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: know has been announced. Could they play the Texans. They're

1965
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 2: sure they could. I don't guess.

1966
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 1: I don't think they would, but we'll see.

1967
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five NFL Berlin game we played at

1968
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,759
Speaker 2: the Olympic Stadium. It's part of a multi year commitment

1969
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: to playing games in Berlin. NFL played five American Bowl

1970
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: games at the Olympic Stadium back in the nineties from

1971
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 2: ninety to ninety four. It was also the Berlin Thunders

1972
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,919
Speaker 2: home from two thousand and three to two thousand and seven.

1973
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: So Berlin gets his first NFL regular season game and

1974
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 2: it will see more than likely Anthony Richardson and.

1975
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: The Colts, so that happens now.

1976
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:54,480
Speaker 2: One of the teams still in the playoffs, the Washington Commanders.

1977
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: They went ahead and they auditioned three kickers today because

1978
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,839
Speaker 2: Zang Gonzalez apparently has injury, but he was practicing full today.

1979
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 2: But it is definitely something to keep an eye on.

1980
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 2: Gonzales hit the game winner against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

1981
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 2: doinking it off the co post to get the win

1982
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 2: for the Commanders. So you know, if you got the

1983
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 2: Commanders in some sort of playoff pool. Keep an eye

1984
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: on Zane Gonzalez and how healthy he is as they

1985
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 2: go up to Detroit. A big, big game for Washington's

1986
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: first time they've been in division rounds since. Boy, I

1987
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: don't remember last time they were in division round It's

1988
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: been a while, but they will go up to Detroit

1989
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 2: and take on the Detroit Lions. The Lions coming off

1990
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,679
Speaker 2: of bye. That will be the game that follows ours.

1991
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 2: Detroit's a nine and a half point favorite. Kansas City's

1992
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 2: eight and a half point favorite against US. The Philadelphia

1993
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 2: Eagles are a six point favorite at home against the

1994
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 2: Rams and on the road the night game Sunday, the

1995
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens are one point favorite. They hammered the Bills

1996
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 2: earlier this year, hammered them, but that was in Baltimore.

1997
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 2: This one in Buffalo. And one of the things to

1998
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: keep an eye with that game. Zay Flowers did not

1999
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 2: practice today. He got hurt in that game. I think

2000
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 2: it was the last one of the year against the Browns.

2001
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 2: He missed the wild card weekend. He might miss this

2002
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 2: week against the Bills. He's got it's been labeled as

2003
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 2: a sprain Let's say Flowers could be a big miss

2004
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,839
Speaker 2: for the Ravens needing every Bolton Holster for the Buffalo Bills.

2005
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: So Commanders keeping ony on zaying Gonzalez and what he's

2006
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 2: got going on. Let's do a little NFL draft. Quinn Ewers,

2007
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 2: University of Texas quarterback says twenty twenty five draft.

2008
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 4: I'm in. This will be interesting. I'm going on a

2009
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 4: record right now.

2010
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 2: I've already said it. I will not have a quarterback

2011
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 2: in a top twenty five of my Harris one hundred.

2012
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 4: She won't do it.

2013
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 2: Not gonna happen, Cam Warreh, Stuart Sanders, Queeny Wars, none

2014
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 2: of them, Nobody above twenty five. I don't even know

2015
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 2: if I'll give a first round great to a quarterback

2016
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:08,719
Speaker 2: this year.

2017
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,679
Speaker 4: That's just kind of the way that I feel.

2018
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the GM coaching carousel and the

2019
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 2: things that are happening. We already know about Mike Vrabel

2020
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:22,000
Speaker 2: being hired as head coach with the New England Patriots.

2021
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:27,799
Speaker 2: That is locked in. Ryan Coden is gonna move Calvin.

2022
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 2: Calvin Coden is going to move to the Patriots. He

2023
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: was rable with right hand man in Tennessee when he

2024
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 2: didn't get the GM job there as Vrabel wanted him to.

2025
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 2: You kind of knew Vrabel might be on shaky ground Tennessee,

2026
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 2: and that's exactly what happened. Now he goes to New

2027
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 2: England with Rabel. Now Elliott Woolf, who is the GM

2028
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 2: or I think they call him senior director and play

2029
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 2: verus Now. I don't know what his exact title is,

2030
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 2: but he's the acting GM. If you will, we'll see

2031
01:32:55,840 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 2: how that relationship goes. Now, Mike McCarthy is not going

2032
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 2: back to Dallas. He reached the twenty fourteen no I'm sorry,

2033
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 2: the January fourteenth Midnight Deadlined Cowboys like earlier that day

2034
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 2: said Nope, we're not gonna get anything done. Mike McCarthy

2035
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 2: has interviewed with the Bears, and I've seen it reported

2036
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 2: that the Bears kind of rolled off the red carpet

2037
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 2: for him. So keeping on Mike McCarthy to the Chicago Bears.

2038
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 2: He's also going to interview in New Orleans. The one

2039
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 2: in Dallas.

2040
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 4: That gets kind of interesting.

2041
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders and I've semi joked about this, especially.

2042
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: When it kind of looked like McCarthy was going to

2043
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: be out.

2044
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 2: Anyways, Hey, what about Deon Sanders to Dallas and then

2045
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,760
Speaker 2: Dallas draft Chador. I don't think Chador is gonna end

2046
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: up going to the Cowboys, but it does look like

2047
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 2: Deon Sanders could end up going to the Cowboys. He

2048
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 2: has been in communication with Jerry Jones.

2049
01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 4: Now.

2050
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:04,440
Speaker 2: Jerry is apparently running everything in Dallas, good, bad or indifferent.

2051
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 2: He's running everything now. They haven't, I apparently, reached out

2052
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:11,759
Speaker 2: for interviews with people.

2053
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Maybe Dion is the guy, and Dion.

2054
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: They still I guess they would have to, you know,

2055
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: do interviews and satisfy the Rooney rule.

2056
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: Maybe Dion's the right fit in Dallas.

2057
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: Who's to say, But Jerry is running things there in Dallas,

2058
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 2: and you know that can get all kinds of exciting.

2059
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 2: So mcarthy out Dion question mark in Dallas.

2060
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 4: That could get kind of interesting.

2061
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 2: Tennessee has been looking at general manager potential opportunities. John

2062
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 2: Eric Sullivan with the Packers was one. Ed Dodds is

2063
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 2: the assistant GM in Indianapolis. Has been Chris valad right

2064
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,759
Speaker 2: hand man there for a long time. Came from Seattle.

2065
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 2: They've they've had a relationship for a long time. Ed

2066
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: Dodds in the mix. I think he got a second interview.

2067
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 2: So Tennessee Titans moving to find their next GM, the

2068
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 2: team with Brian Callahan, So that's gonna be.

2069
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: That'll be kind of interesting, to say the least.

2070
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 2: So we'll see what the Titans end up doing, whether

2071
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: they hire a GM out of an AFC South rival

2072
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 2: in Ed Dodds, maybe go with the.

2073
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: Packers, dohn X Sulvan. We'll see what happens there.

2074
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 2: But things are spinning on the GM head coach carousel

2075
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 2: as we speak. All Right, that's gonna do it for

2076
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 2: the show. A big thanks to all of you guys

2077
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 2: for listening. Thank you so much, to Mark and to

2078
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:41,799
Speaker 2: Dan Israel, to Drew of course, to Nick Cassario, as always,

2079
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 2: to all of you for listening.

2080
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,839
Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, and as always, go Texans,