1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In occasion didn't notice, I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: decision makers. It's what he likes to do. It's what 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: he likes to share. Now it's time to hear from 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Here we come. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: for some and suscisable paycheck. Mine is helping people wake 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: their very best life. These are my passions and that's 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: what I'm going to do for you. That's why I 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: bring guests on my show so you can hear their stories. 16 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Their stories may be similar to what you're going through 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: or what you're trying to achieve, and when you listen 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: to him, you realize their peaks and their values and 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: how you overcome those values. We'll get you back up 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: to that moment you can call your peak and look 21 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: on the other side of the mountain. These are the 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: passions we want to talk about. I want you to 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: stop tripping over small challenges and prepare to rise above 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: the bigger obstacles in life. Will present to you my 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: next guest I'm happy to have on the phone. Uh. 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: He's Rashid Wallace. He's a Philadelphia Sports Hall of Famer 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: and sixteen year NBA veteran four time NBA All Store. 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: He's a phillip philanthropists, activists, high school basketball coach, and 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: co host Alexica Technical Podcasts, where just former NBA teammate 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: Bozzy Wells. Rashis is dedicated to helping this community and 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: bringing people together. He provides food and resources to underserve 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: communities and cities including Philadelphia, Charlotte, Durham, Flint, Detroit, and 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: has been a leading voice into the calling for an 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: in to gun violence, police brutality, and racial injustice. Please 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: work with to money making conversations. Rashid Wallace, Hey, Hey, 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: thanks for having had lots. Sash had nothing to do basketball, 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: just at the basketball in the beginning, but after that, man, 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: You're all about the community. Man, tell us about that 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: transition man from the NBA to be a person that 40 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: has a voice that's not tied. You know, you always 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: be known with sports, you always as part of your brand. 42 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: But you know the step out there can you six 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: ft eleven almost seven feet tall? So you're always gonna 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: make an interest in any room that you enter. But 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: but your brand of what you're trying to be known for, now, 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: what is it? Um? Just just being a good person 47 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: to sum it up, you know, I just I just 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: try to be me, do what I can do, um 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: the most highest, put me in a position where I 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: can help others. Um As you mentioned on your intro. 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: You know, different people have different different signs of success, 52 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: and it's just a majority of people based their success, 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: like you said, off the money, But I don't. I 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: don't base my success off the money because hey, just 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: as fast as they coming can go. Absolutely though, to me, 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: I I look at what what what am I going 57 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: to leave behind? What am I here for? What am 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: I doing now while I'm here? To me, that's my success. 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: You know, I could just be sitting at home and calcultator, 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, retire but I choose not to. I choose 61 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: to be out there in the streets and in the 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: midst of it all to try to get to get 63 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: life right, to get things right in our community for 64 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: our people, to make it better and know being. And 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: it's really interesting because you can't avoid who you are. 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: You're nearly seven feet tall, so no matter where you go, 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna gain attention when you come in there. You're 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: a good looking guy, you're tall, you dress right, and 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: so with that attention, you can't avoid who, what you've been, 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: or what you're trying to accomplish in life. And so 71 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: when you talk about your right, money can't go man. 72 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Two thousand and eight people found that out the stock 73 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: market crash, and that money when left right and out 74 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: of everybody's pockets. And so that was a big old signal. 75 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: And so when I see that you all over the 76 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: country caring about different locations and places of need, how 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: does that exactly work? Do you have a staff? Do 78 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: you just you're watching television, you just have an urge 79 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: to contribute? How does that work with your what your 80 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: what's your organization? Machi, It's not even the organization. It 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: was just all from the muffle um. You know, I don't. 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't have time to sit back and and get 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: proper clearance to go here and then get this permitting, 84 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: that permit, because by the time those things happen, you know, 85 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: your your cause is lost and people need these resources now, 86 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: not a couple of months from around when people downtown 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: decided to stamp it and now it's a permit. Okay, 88 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: we could do it. No they don't. They need to 89 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: help now. And that's that's always been the thing, is, 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to trying to do what I 91 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: could do. I've seen it growing up in my neighborhood. 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: I got my I guess you could say my community 93 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: love I got from my babysitter when I was a 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: young fella. My babysitter was block captain and so being 95 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: that block captain, she was responsible for how to block 96 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: look you know all of all the other homes, you know, 97 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: the front houses, and you know how everything looks. And 98 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: to me seeing that growing up was like okay, dag 99 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: mr core. She she really into, you know, into her 100 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 1: neighbors and this and that, and then it just went 101 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: on from there, you know, just showing different love and 102 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: doing and doing this and doing that, So I mean, 103 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: I get the joy out of it. Man. It's you know, 104 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: I spent my birthday up in Flint, um a couple 105 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. My birthday was on the sevent team. 106 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: I spent my birthday in Flint passing out resources to 107 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: the people that needed it. Man. And and to me, 108 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: that was my birthday present. You know when I knocked 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: on them doors, you know, me and me and the 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: other brothers and sisters that were out there, and we're 111 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: knocking on them doors and we're dropping these packages off. 112 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: And to see the smile on a lot of these 113 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: people faces like like Yo, that's that's it for me. 114 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: That's that's that's what I do it for. I don't 115 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: do it for no recognition. I can care less about 116 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: a TV camera being out there or whatever. No do 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: it for the people. Well, you know, so would you? 118 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: Would you being there? Tell us my listeners and sometimes 119 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: in some situation viewers, what what is going on in 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Flint right now? You was up there passing out care packages. 121 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: So there's still a need to be doing that. So 122 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: what exactly from from a social standpoint, political standpoint, what 123 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: are they doing for those people up there? Well? Everyone 124 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: thinks that it's settled because the state of Michigan gave 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: the residents to Flint six hundred million dollars. But that's 126 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: that's not a lot of money because breaking it down, 127 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: it's only gonna come out to something about I think, 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: like hundred per person who was affected by this. And 129 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: then you have to prove that you lived in this 130 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: community or you know, through doctors notes or whatever. I 131 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: guess that you have, uh, you know, these illnesses from 132 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: the lead being in the water. So you pretty much 133 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: got to prove it to me. I see it all. 134 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: I see, I see the kids up there, you know 135 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: when it first happened. I'm up there in the community. 136 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: And I really wish I still had the picture. I know, 137 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: my cousin Mike, but we we took samples of the water. 138 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Like man, this this water was sober. Just imagine if 139 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: you lived out in the field, right, it's a big 140 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: rainstorm and you went out there and you got some 141 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: mud from the mud hole and you put it all 142 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: in the bottle and that and that whole muddy water. 143 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: That's how this was up in Flint. And this and 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: this is a yes, this is a catastrophe, like it 145 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: wasn't allow when you saw pictures of this contaminated water 146 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: looking lime green and you know do do brown and 147 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: all that that was real. And this is what they're 148 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: trying to tell the people that you gotta bathe in, 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: you gotta drink it. You know. Just think about our 150 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: kids in elementary scores cooking, you know every day like 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: we take we take it for granted how much we 152 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: use water every day. You know, when you wake up, 153 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: what's the first thing you do. You know, you take 154 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: your shower, bright your teeth and all that. Right then, 155 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: as you just mentioned water for your cooking, you know, 156 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: your coffee or your tea, you know, every day and 157 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: these they have to stip out of of of of 158 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: with bottle waters, with gallon bottle waters, you know, and 159 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: you gotta heat this up. This is how you gotta 160 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: watch and wash up taking bird back, you know. And 161 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: it's just a certain area in Flint now. So so 162 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of tap into your emotions because 163 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: I know you always in the NBA, you huld always 164 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: show me you an emotional guy. And you're seeing this 165 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: because a lot of the stuff is out of your hands. 166 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, you can't do anything or you can go 167 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: up there, you can pass it that. But you know, 168 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: this is only lack of that. They say, a band 169 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: band aide over a gunshot. Really, that's all it is. 170 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: And so how do you how do do you walk 171 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: away from that? And and how do you maintain some 172 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: degree of not just wanted to punch somebody in the 173 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: face for being stupid because they see the same thing 174 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: you see and they have the power to correct that problem. Yeah, 175 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: in fact, and but the people that they have the 176 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: power to correct the problem are dragging their feet. Why 177 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: because them, their family and loved ones don't live in 178 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: this area right here. It is like like it's it's 179 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: one specific um area where we go to and Flint 180 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: where it's uh, it's a majority of elderly people living. 181 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: So you know, of course they can't get out there 182 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: to that grocery store. You know, no matter if they 183 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: got younger people in their family or not, you might 184 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: might not be able to get out there. Or you know, 185 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: you live, you and your husband or you and your wife. 186 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, y'all living body ourselves and takes y'all, you know, 187 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: some time to be able to go out and do things. Well, 188 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: that's why we're here, you know, and we we we 189 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: I don't have no problem with going door to door, 190 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: you know, because it's it's first of all, it's all 191 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: a peaceful matter. And if the people like the want 192 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: of the resources, boom, I'm gonna leave them on sentiments 193 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: side of the door. It's not it's no problem. You know. 194 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: I still hope you have a blessed day. So it's 195 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: it's it's all about. It's all about just just as 196 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned, to look on those people's faces when we leave, 197 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: and for us to say, like, yo, we'll be back 198 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: up in a couple of months. You know, we're gonna 199 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: get the resources together again. Like they look forward to that. 200 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: It's like almost like you know, a Christmas to some people, 201 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: because it's like through this city, through the state, they 202 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: don't care about them, but we gotta let them know. Hey, look, 203 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: y's of our brothers and sis. We care about y'all. 204 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: We care what's happening to y'all. And that's why we're 205 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: here now, you know. That's what There's the number of 206 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: cities I missed. You know, Clinton is pretty obvious. What's 207 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna flint, excuse me, pretty obviously going to I mentioned Philadelphia, Charlotte, 208 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: Dorham and Detroit as some of the cities that you 209 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: you went in and underserved communities. Can you tell us 210 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: what you're doing in Philadelphia, what you've been doing, because 211 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: I like to really the people to hear your story 212 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: because you know, man, you're all over the country, you 213 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: know and and and and participate in trying to make change. 214 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: And I know you say, hey man, I don't care 215 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: for camera out there or uh, somebody's not there take pictures, 216 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: but I wish they are. I hope they are. I've 217 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: seen you, so for me, I've seen because we need 218 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: to have this story told because you're you're living it 219 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: and it needs to be documented. And and that's one 220 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: of the reasons I wanted to bring you on the show. 221 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Hey man, I know I'm a big fan of your 222 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: NBA career, but man, what you're doing in the community 223 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: is amazing. Man. And so what what do you What 224 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: was the challenges in Philadelphia? Well, the first thing we're doing, 225 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: um coming up October sixteenth and seventeen, UM the sixteenths 226 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: myself Leonard Stewart, who's the coach at Simon Gratz High School, 227 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: and all the powers to be at Grass High school, 228 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: we're trying to put together, um, a memorial for a 229 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: former player who got killed to some senseless gun violence 230 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: and um and so we're gonna put a rally together, 231 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, to drop the guns and get some hugs 232 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: or you know, any type of slogan like that. But 233 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: the main catches it's all about peace. You know, for 234 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: us to we're always talking about all the white man 235 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: is the white man that well guess well, well, if 236 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: you help yourself out first, you know, you can't blame 237 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: them for everything. You can't blame the white man for 238 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: everything because we do a lot of it to ourselves. 239 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: So if we if we gain that knowledge, and and 240 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: one thing I'd like to say is positivity is power. 241 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: You know, even though negatively travel faster, everybody's spreading it 242 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: more and saying it more. But guess what, the power 243 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: of positivity it can travel just as fast. You. All 244 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 1: you gotta do is get that right moment with the 245 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: right people to touch other people. And what we have 246 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: going on is the drop the gun dropping. In October seventeen, 247 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: we're going up to the Lanna Young Recreation Center in 248 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: East Germantown and we were stationed there and we're gonna 249 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: do the same things that we do and Flint and 250 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: in other places where we're knocking on door to door, 251 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: pack not recently. It's hard right now for everybody out here, man, 252 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: I know it really is. It really is. And then 253 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: when you when you want to be a varce to 254 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: end gun violence, police brutality, and racial injustice, you know, 255 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: we all know we're doing the pandemic there. Uh. I 256 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: would tell people that, you know, I'm older than you, 257 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: and so I don't you know the affect that I'm 258 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: not comfortable when a police officer pulls me over, even 259 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: though I know I've got nothing wrong. That that's not fair, 260 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: that's not fair, and and and and what happened to 261 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: George Floyd kind of ignited not just black people, white 262 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: people finally kind of salt and you know, it's like 263 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: a perfect storm pandemic. They're at the house, they're getting 264 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: to watch something that everybody kind of knew, their parents 265 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: knew for sure, the young people were being shielded by 266 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: They open their eyes and go, Okay, that's why I 267 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: joyed seeing so many white people marching. I like that, 268 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: that brings up, that brings George to my heart. And 269 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: so when you're talking about battling or trying to bring 270 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: attention to it. How what what role are you playing 271 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: in all that? Rashid just just being there for the people. 272 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: Um as I mentioned, it's not about the cameras or whatever. 273 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: If I know I have some celebrity friends, you know, 274 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: ex teammates or whatever that can spare their time, sir, well, 275 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily need money. Like I 276 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: tell everybody, they're always oh man, how can I how 277 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: can I donate this? And there I say, Hey, first off, 278 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a foundation. I'm not an organization. 279 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: I do this from the muffle. So what you're gonna 280 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: have to do is, I'll let you know the story 281 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: that we're using. Like up when I was going up 282 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: to Flint, we used the Walmart that was in Detroit. 283 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: Everybody who wanted to who couldn't be there to want 284 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: to chip in, you know, to get the water and resources. Okay, 285 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: call of Walmart is purchased, and then we're putting it 286 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: on our truck, on one of the palettes on our 287 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: truck to go up there. So it's that way, you know, 288 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: you're getting it right there. It's not it's not uh 289 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: have to go through this funnel or that funnel. No, 290 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: the resources going right there. If you want to buy 291 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: uh two hundred dollars worth of baby diapers, then guess 292 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: what it will be there, two hundred illars worth a 293 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: baby diapers, you know, if and a buck about it. 294 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I don't want to become an 295 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: organization to where I have people doubting me, doubting what 296 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing and thinking that their money like, oh man, 297 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: you know that money ain't doing nothing. They just that's 298 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: a scam. No, I'm not a scam. You know. I'm 299 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: right there with it, and it can't be right. You know. 300 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: It's important that you say that because people do question you. 301 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: You know, but you're a successful person. He's just out 302 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: here temporary. That's why I like what you said. You 303 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: tell the people you come back, because people don't. They 304 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: think it's a one off and you are celebrity, your star, 305 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: and so oh he's down here just to make himself 306 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: feel good this week. But when you come back, that 307 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: validates you to the community. It really does. And I've 308 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: been in that position. I've been in a position with 309 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: I've spoken just every students that these are one step 310 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: away from going to jail if they make one more mistake. 311 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: And their biggest cry to me was, now you ain't 312 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: gonna come back? Yeah, what you're gonna get up out 313 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: of here? And you don't know that you know your 314 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: time's up. Okay, they get a little half clap. You know, 315 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: she that you and so. But but I had to 316 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: come back every week before I got them to believe 317 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: that I cared about them. And that's really hard. And 318 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: that's why you know what I'm talking to you. You 319 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. It's like, that's why I understand 320 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: why you went to high school coaching. I'm sure because 321 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: you wanted to reach these kids and show that you care. 322 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: Plus you have a your your success story in the 323 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: sport that they want to play. You went to college 324 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: and then you proceed into last an NBA for sixteen 325 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: years using All Star. So so that's really you an 326 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: example you're using in your life as an example to them. 327 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming correct, definitely, because I'm definitely not coaching for 328 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: the pay. I'll tell you that, well, you said the muzzle. 329 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: Now come over, you said the muzzle. Now you know 330 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: that that high basketball it's not I love it, you know. 331 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: It's I have sense to mold and guy these young 332 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: kids into becoming something in their lives. You might not 333 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: necessarily be a pal athlete, but you would be a professional. Uh. 334 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: This is actually the past season I had and five fingers, 335 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: So I don't I can't take credit for the three 336 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: of them for the simple fact that they were playing football, 337 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: so they already were. I was just the fact that 338 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: they're athletic and couldn't play basketball. But I had two 339 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: guys on it. We're seeing and on college and I 340 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: don't know, it wasn't a big college do whatever, but 341 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: guess what it was the college to help them advance 342 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: their life, like to get that preparation right. And that's 343 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about. That's what I love. 344 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: You know. It's a hard road, really, that's what Hey, 345 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: that's why I coach here, absolutely, you know. And like 346 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: I said, like you said, the thing that to your 347 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: mantra has always been it is not about the money. 348 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: And so I didn't expect them when I was talking 349 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: about high school. I wouldn't expect you just say they're 350 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: paying you, because we know that's not the case. We 351 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: know that you're there to change lives. And when I 352 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: look at your whole agenda, it's about changing lives. Now. 353 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: Now you have a podcast and and it's called Let's 354 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: Get Technical. Um, I'm assuming that's uh tied to some 355 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: things you you did in your career. Uh, she said, 356 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: you set the record, you know, because cause I tell 357 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: everybody about the record. You're sett in two thousand and 358 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: two thousand and one received forty technical files over a 359 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: span of eighty games, about one technical file for every 360 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: two games. What was going through your mind that season, 361 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: because she um, I had a lot of things, you know, 362 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: I ask them some family things, and you know, just 363 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: just some of the pressures of just just playing and 364 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: wanting to win, and you know, playing against great adversaries 365 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: at that time. UM, it was it was also a 366 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: fact of you know that, in my opinion, they tried 367 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: to control me, and like, I know, I'm a grown man. 368 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: You're not going to control me. I'm respectable. I'm not 369 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: gonna do nothing stupid to jeopardize my job. But but damn, 370 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: let me be me. I'm gonna do my work. And 371 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: and then you know it all it all came out 372 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: in the end, when you know, I was vindicated through 373 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: certain actions and you know it's really important, like you're 374 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: on that with as well. So I'm I'm based in 375 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: Atlanta right now, but I'm from Houston, Texas. So I 376 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: know Bondy well ball state baller, you know when he 377 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: was USTR Rockets and you ranging him up in Portland 378 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: when he was in Portland, right when he was drafted 379 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: by the Trail Players, right, So did your Bondy immediately 380 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: just a relationship they kind of like grew out and 381 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: you guys just because you know, you got traded several 382 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: times and so did he How did you guys maintain 383 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: this relationship? Well, it was the first Bondie in my 384 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: rookie you know, that's that's my guy right there. Absolutely, Um, 385 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: he was my rookie in Portland. We drafted him and 386 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: when he came like truth be told, I didn't know 387 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: nothing about Bondi because at the time, you know, the 388 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: powers to be that we're in the front office wasn't 389 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: pretty much sharing who they had ideas of drafting or 390 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: any of that. They didn't share that with us. So 391 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: what was fine with me? Hey, I had no problem 392 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: with it. But when Bondy first came in there and 393 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: the first practice that we had, you know, he was 394 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: a little timid. He was a little timid because he 395 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: didn't know quite what to expect because it was all 396 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: new for him because six months before he was just 397 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: watching this on TV and here it is. Now he's 398 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: in practice with it. So you know, that really does 399 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: affect players like that, you know, to come in and 400 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: see you guys and realize they are on the floor 401 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: with you guys. Does it really affect players like that? Oh? Yes, 402 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: it does. It does. It's it's it's everybody gets star struck, 403 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: especially if it's a player you like. Like when I 404 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: first came into the league. Man, let me tell you this. 405 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing was my guy, all right, And so I 406 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: came into the league playing against Pat. Pat bust my ass. 407 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: I'm mainly I'm mainly still in all like yo, and 408 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: I'm playing against Pat Ewing. We dunking on me. I'm 409 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: playing against Pat and he hitting the little fade away 410 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: jump shot. I'm like, man, So yeah, we get start struck. 411 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: But Bronie snapped out of it within the first week though, 412 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: and once he came around, we've seen he was a dog. 413 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, young fellow, you you're gonna be good on 414 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: this team. Come now, you know I'll be remiss to 415 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: talk about you. You got to play against Michael Jordan's 416 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't all I was just a fan 417 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: just watching the guy. And dude, give us your impression 418 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: of playing against this guy and his his abilities and 419 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: his talents on the basketball court. We're just talking about 420 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: the basketball court and Michael Jordan. Um. I would say 421 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: he's probably one of the top competitors that I've ever 422 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: seen and played again, you know, and and and literally 423 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: he wants to beat every game. It could be anything 424 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: like you guys can be playing pig or horse, or like, oh, 425 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: I bet you that I could throw this this football 426 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: further than you know you can't. He wants to be 427 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: He's that competitive where he wants to beat a free game. 428 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: And that's what that's what drove him, That's what that's 429 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: what drove him to be to the player that he 430 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: was throughout his career. Because I'm gonna be the best. 431 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: You better be ready because I'm coming I'm gonna be 432 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: the best. And playing against him, it was the same 433 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: thing I just mentioned about. Boy, I was in all 434 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: too the first time I played against Mike when I 435 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: was in Washington, you know, because again I'm I'm watching 436 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: this man, you know, up in adult contest and in 437 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: the championships and boom now here, I got a front 438 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: row seat to see his brother, so it was it 439 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: was definitely fun. But he's a hell of a competitor. Cool. Now, 440 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: now you got a hell of a contetitor, competitor on 441 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: your podcast show. Let's get technical. Now, we talked a 442 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: lot of things about the community. What is your podcast 443 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: show and what is your interview angling what is your 444 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: approach and what what is the point of view of 445 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: your podcast show. Let's get technical with Bonsy Wells Well 446 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: Bonds and I are our main thing is to get 447 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: information out there and have fun with it, to be different. 448 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of professional athletes who 449 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: have their own lane and dealing with podcasts and you know, 450 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: some YouTube stuff and all of that. But Bondsi and now, 451 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: of course we're different, two different personalities, but we're gonna 452 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: let the people know from our point of view. You know, 453 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: we're there, we're we're we're there in the community. You know, 454 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: Bondsi dust community work as well up there in Indiana 455 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: where he lives at UM our our our whole show 456 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: is just more than basketball. We're more than about even 457 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: though that's our that was our job. But you know, 458 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: we want to be known for having some insight on football, boxing, baseball. Uh, 459 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, a whole lot of social injustice that's going 460 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: on now. Um, just a lot of things. We touched 461 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: on every topic now the interesting things like now Bonds 462 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: as a as a hoot as they say, my as 463 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: my mom was. He's a hoot, he's funny, he's entertaining. 464 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: Uh you know, he's sarcastic. And so the personality is 465 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: because you know, uh, she's a little bit more edgier 466 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: than Bonds. But they're both passionate, but they have different 467 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: ways they get to the passion. And that's why I 468 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: enjoyed seeing seeing a couple of episodes. I laugh because 469 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, even in the in 470 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: the in the booth, there's a hight difference, okay, in 471 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: the and it's really cool. But I have you read 472 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: the book yet, Rushi, I have a couple of children's books. Okay, cool. 473 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: The reason I want to bring up this famous line 474 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: ball don't live first time I heard it, and and 475 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: and the reason I want to close the show talking 476 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: about that because it's more than just about basketball. When 477 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: I really broke it down and and it's about life 478 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: don't lie. It's about the effort. And I don't want 479 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: to get too far into description because I wanted to 480 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: be say it out of your boards, out of your tone, 481 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 1: out of your language, because of the fact that you 482 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: know you And when I first heard you said you know, 483 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: I was like, that's so profound. And then I did 484 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: my research, I went, wow, this is really a applies 485 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: to corporate America. This doesn't just apply. This apply to education. 486 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: This applies to what what what America is going through 487 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: right now. It doesn't lie, you know, brutality in the 488 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: COVID and ainteen, the economy, then difference between racial and 489 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: differences that we have in America, because the ball don't 490 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: lie in the end, it tells the truth. Tell us 491 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: how you come up with that phrase, ball don't lie, 492 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: And tell us if you if you ever write a 493 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: book for adults, that has to be the title of 494 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: that book. But let's go talk about ball don't lie, 495 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: because I'm just telling I know you. I know you've 496 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: talked about it, talking to have talked about it. A 497 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: lot in your life. But it's so profound man, and 498 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: and it means so much to so many different people. 499 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: When you go to flint ball don't lie it, don't 500 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: lie that a young man dying being shot. Ball don't lie, 501 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: drop these drugs. But let me say, I'm not still 502 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: in your thunder rashid tell us what ball don't lie? 503 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: How did it tell? How did it come about? And 504 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: how did you realize it was a unique phrase you 505 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: have to hold on to. Well, truthfully, I first heard 506 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: it on the schoolyards of Philly, like basketball, um, and 507 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: it was just something you know, we always said, along 508 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: with a whole lot of other you know, trash talking. Right, 509 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: So when um, it's it's like okay, say, say you 510 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: and I are playing right and boom, you try to 511 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: take me to the basket. But and you think I 512 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: fould you, but we both know I didn't foul. You 513 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: called foul because the game point and you missed the shot, 514 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: all right, and then so boom, So you get the 515 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: ball back and you missed the shot and I get 516 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: the rebound. Hey, that ball don't lie. So come on, 517 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: and now it's my turn. You know what I'm saying. 518 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: So it it just carried over to the n b A. 519 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: And you know I was mainly saying that when the 520 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: rest were called the weak cheesy fouls on me and 521 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: the guys that go to the style line, and they 522 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: missed that first Hey, balled all live. It's karma. It's 523 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: a basketball guy, right right. That's hot. Man. You know 524 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: I wanted this the first time we've spoken. Um. I 525 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: hope you keep me in your in your memories about 526 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: any opportunities if you ever want to do a documentary, 527 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: man Ball, don't lie documentary, because that's what you're doing 528 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: right now. For she one thing about my gift. Man, 529 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: I see stuff, brother, and I see it come to truth. 530 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: And you are special. Man, You're special because your story 531 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: what I need to people see your story. I want 532 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: your story on tape. I want your efforts on tape. 533 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: I want your blessings that you're sharing with America no 534 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: matter what color, on tape because you're out there doing 535 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: what you say. Man Ball, don't lie, brother, You're the truth. Man. 536 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, good brother, for sure. You know, I'm 537 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: just playing my part, doing what I'm supposed to do. 538 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: You just coming off the bench, brother, that's all coming 539 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: off the bench and doing what you gotta do, or 540 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: thank you for calling my show, man, and we're gonna 541 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: talk soon, man, And you're gonna get a call from me, man, 542 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: because I'm serious. Brother. You might not want tape on you, 543 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: but I won't put some tape on you. Okay, you 544 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: can ask anybody about Rushan mcdown. I say what I'm 545 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: gonna do. Man. You two special brother, You weren't you special? Man? 546 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: Be sitting about here talking about hey mate, muscle up. 547 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: Now we're gonn muscle up together and put you on 548 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: tape because you change this world man by what you do, 549 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: and you are a global phenomenon. Man, you know you're not. 550 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: What you're doing in Flint is worldwide. You know what 551 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: you're doing in de charters worldwide, Durham, Charlotte, Philadelphia. All 552 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,479 Speaker 1: those efforts need to be That story needs to be 553 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: told because if we don't let you tell the story, man, 554 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: then guess what we don't win. 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