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Speaker 1: The next high wire Act starts now with Senate Democrats

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Speaker 1: his second only formal news conference at the White House.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the fastest hour in politics, as Washington gets

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Speaker 1: back to business from the long holiday weekend and the

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Speaker 1: with Congresswoman Hailey Stephens, Democrat from Michigan, as the party

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Speaker 1: In a conversation with Eli Yolkley of Morning Consult looking

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Speaker 1: with Joe Crowley, former Congressman from New York, former member

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Speaker 1: you know, clearly this is something that the Democrats and

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Speaker 1: the last few weeks. And you know what they're doing

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Speaker 1: it for. It's really popular, by the way, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the different kinds of electoral reforms Democrats are pushing for.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of these things get six by

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're Democrats are like right on the policy

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Speaker 1: right here. It's just as you know, trying to get

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Speaker 1: this rule change through the Senate, it's just not something

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Speaker 1: a lot of bipartisans support for. What did you learn

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Speaker 1: about voting rights legislation? We're gonna probably see both of

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Speaker 1: these get votes in the same day. Yeah, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Freedom to Vote Acts is a lot of its

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Speaker 1: provisions are pretty popular, like I said, the early voting

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Speaker 1: a really good job of revving up their base against

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Speaker 1: things like access expanding access to voting by mail, or

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Speaker 1: automatic voter registration or same day voter registration. It's like

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Speaker 1: more than half Republican voters have learned that they're against that. UM.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that John Lewis Voting Rights to Dancement

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Speaker 1: support that, including a good chunk of Republicans. So why

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Speaker 1: isn't that reflected on Capitol Hill. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: part of it it's probably we have seen some republic

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Speaker 1: Can support for it from folks um like Lisa Murkowski

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Speaker 1: starting this, we have seen some Republican support, whether it

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Speaker 1: be from Senator John Doon, the republic whip, or or

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Speaker 1: Susan Collins behind changing the Electoral count Act. And this

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Speaker 1: is something that has support but over half of voters

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Speaker 1: to clarify the vice president's role when Congress is counting

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Speaker 1: the votes. This was a big issue. Of course, we've

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Speaker 1: talked about this quite a bit. Of all voters you've

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Speaker 1: every Democratic lawmaker we've had on was repulsed by the idea,

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Speaker 1: thinking that it would distract from the actual legislation that

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Speaker 1: needed to be passed. Yeah, I mean that's what that

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Speaker 1: was one of the big points. Senator shimmermates like, we'll

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Speaker 1: get to that after we get to voting rights. But

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Speaker 1: Democrats supported based on your pull Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 1: that is a great question for Senator Simmer from him

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Speaker 1: on the show. But I just think it's fascinating how

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Speaker 1: much of a difference. And and look at you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not new at this is this happens a lot,

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Speaker 1: but what a difference between the polling and the people

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Speaker 1: to Washington. Yes, uh, you know what I mean this.

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Speaker 1: There is one thing about prioritization here though. And you know,

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Speaker 1: we asked about the octual account acts, or expanding voting

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Speaker 1: access or expanding the oversight of the states, and the

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Speaker 1: biggest answer from voters was none of the above. This

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Speaker 1: it's just Democrats had not made the case to the

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Speaker 1: American people how big of a deal this was. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think we've seen polling that showed

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Speaker 1: President Biden's big speech last week broke through to a

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Speaker 1: lot of voters, for example. And so that's what has

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Speaker 1: been trying to do for the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: So far, it's not working. We'll see if a debate

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill breaks through, but I think it passes President.

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Speaker 1: Things like this don't always vote break through. It to

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Speaker 1: the American people, we should mention the survey conducted January

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Speaker 1: eight through the ninth, and I do like to get

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Speaker 1: this out there because people ask about polls. People are

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Speaker 1: pretty savvy. Two thousand registered voters uh in this survey

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Speaker 1: from Morning Consults. Eli. It's great to have Eli Oakley.

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Speaker 1: Good conversation and interesting data that we should keep in

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Speaker 1: mind as we prepare for not only the votes, but

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Speaker 1: to hear from President Biden tomorrow as he speaks to

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Speaker 1: Americans and answers questions in this news conference. And this

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Speaker 1: will likely play a big role in it many thanks

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Speaker 1: to Morning Consults. Will reassemble the panel next, Rick Davis,

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Speaker 1: Joe Crowley coming up. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. The

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Speaker 1: story from our team covering Congress Rudy Giuliani and two

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Speaker 1: other lawyers who helped former President Trump advanced baseless claims

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Speaker 1: of fraud in the twenty election have been subtoenaed by

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Speaker 1: the House Committee investigating January six. Sidney Powell is on

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Speaker 1: that list, along with Jenna Ellis part of a legal

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Speaker 1: team is Bill the House Rights that spearheaded an attempt

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Speaker 1: to overturn the election results. And this is all, of course,

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Speaker 1: comes after a wild rally a while Donald Trump rally

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, in which she I can't say, doubled

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Speaker 1: down but stuck with the election fraud story and even

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Speaker 1: suggests that a government conspiracy may have been behind the attack.

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Speaker 1: On January six, uh allah, Matt Gates and Marjorie Taylor Green.

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Speaker 1: Now that's where we rejoined the panel here with Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Politics contributor and Republican strategist Rick Davis, along with Joe Crowley,

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Speaker 1: former New York congressman former Democratic Caucus chair Rick. I

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Speaker 1: imagine everyone I just mentioned, Giuliani, Powell on down will

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Speaker 1: refuse to testify. Would they all get the criminal treatment

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Speaker 1: like Mark Meadows and Steve Bannon. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: long list. Now you're sorry, can you hear me? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And now you're you've got people like even uh Kevin McCarthy, right,

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Speaker 1: is what do you do with your other members? Uh? So,

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Speaker 1: I do think the committee is gonna probably have to

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Speaker 1: put these out and hope for the best. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine the kind of crisis that would be created if

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Speaker 1: every one of these people are held uh to um,

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Speaker 1: I'm really wondering, I mean, with the thousands of emails

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Speaker 1: these individuals to actually testify. I mean, you obviously want

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Speaker 1: them to because it's it's you know, the rule of law.

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Speaker 1: But um, at some point, I think the committee has

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Speaker 1: just got to make a decision where they're gonna what

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do with this report. Are they gonna make

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Speaker 1: referrals to the Justice Department? Um? Not cooperating maybe exposes

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Speaker 1: you to that, but it's a it's definitely waiting for

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Speaker 1: that hammered to fall. I mean every day we see

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Speaker 1: new subpoenas going out, and uh, it's a it's pretty interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a long list. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what compels some people to testify. Allah mcadini and others,

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Speaker 1: Allah Bannon, not you here, but Joe Crowley. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about these subpoenas going after Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and

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Speaker 1: others January six. If if they refuse, and maybe you

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Speaker 1: have a sense of how they'll respond to these, should

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Speaker 1: it mean criminal referrals for all of them? Or is

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Speaker 1: there is there a different is the bar set differently

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Speaker 1: for each person? Well, I think that the bar should

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Speaker 1: be equal for everyone. Quote Frankly. Uh, you know, to

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Speaker 1: hold Congress and contempt is a serious thing, and I

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Speaker 1: think the credibility of Congress itself it needs to act.

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Speaker 1: You know, these these four individuals may very well have

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Speaker 1: pertinent information. They certainly were part of promulgating the great lie,

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Speaker 1: the lie that the election was a fraud and that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump was defrauded of his of his position as president.

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Speaker 1: And they used insightful language. You know, trial by combat

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Speaker 1: is what Juliani said at that riot itself. So they're

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Speaker 1: very may very well be here information that's that is important.

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Speaker 1: I think what the important hit Joe though, is that

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Speaker 1: just over the weekend, Mitt Romney, Uh, well, I'll meet

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Speaker 1: the press really verified that this committee is doing good

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Speaker 1: work and needs to continue to teach to operate. Of course,

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Speaker 1: none of the people I just listed whatever, listen to

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Speaker 1: Mitt Romney. But I want to bring you back to

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Speaker 1: Arizona Saturday night at Donald Trump the Big rally, and

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Speaker 1: in in one SoundBite here pulling all of these stories

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Speaker 1: January six election, the whole thing into one uh, in

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Speaker 1: a way that really raised a lot of questions. I'll

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Speaker 1: ask you both what you think. Here's Donald Trump exactly

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Speaker 1: how many of those present at the Capital Complex in

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Speaker 1: January six. We're FBI confidential informants. Agents are otherwise working

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Speaker 1: directly or indirectly with an agency of the United States government.

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Speaker 1: People want to hear this. How about the one guy,

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Speaker 1: go in, go in, get in there, every body Epps,

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Speaker 1: get in there, go go go. Nothing happens to him,

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Speaker 1: What happened with him? Nothing happens. Did any of these

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Speaker 1: individuals play any role whatsoever improving or facilitating the events

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Speaker 1: at the Capitol. That's what we want to know. And

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Speaker 1: most importantly, why are they investigating November three a rigged

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Speaker 1: we will never have a fair and free democracy. Why

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Speaker 1: aren't they looking at that? Uh? Donald Trump over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: Ray Epps, by the way, you heard him talk about

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Speaker 1: Actually met informally, as I read in Politico, with the panel.

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Speaker 1: They did talk to him. It happened in November. Turns

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Speaker 1: out he had no relationship with the FBI. Rick Davis.

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Speaker 1: To hear full throated descriptions like that, it's different when

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Speaker 1: you're read it. It's different when someone else says it.

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Speaker 1: It's different when you think you know what Trump believes

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Speaker 1: or doesn't believe. But to go that far to suggest

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Speaker 1: this early stage here suggests that this is going to

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Speaker 1: if he runs again, uh for president. It it underscores

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Speaker 1: the importance of the commission, does it not. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you need to start with the premise that all Trump

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Speaker 1: rallies are truth free zones, right, and so it's whatever

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Speaker 1: real fact um. And this new uh conspiracy theory fed

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Speaker 1: FED surrection is really where they started back in the

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Speaker 1: Charlottesville riots. Um started by white supremacists. Oh it wasn't us,

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Speaker 1: It was really the FEDS who did this. And so

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Speaker 1: it's it's a confidence, it's a it's a refrain that

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Speaker 1: ties very neatly into the you know, sort of federal

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Speaker 1: government has you know, this secret client dustine group that

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Speaker 1: the crazy, you know, conspiracy theories that get tied together. Um.

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Speaker 1: The one actually that came out of the rally, which

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Speaker 1: some of the Q and on folks actually think that

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Speaker 1: JFK was in a body suit that looked just like

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and it wasn't really Donald Trump. J Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so like still if you believe that, then all

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Speaker 1: the rest of the stuff is absolutely contemplate. Joe. Probably,

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Speaker 1: at what point to members, I know we've been hearing

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Speaker 1: from some senators lately, but how about members of of

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Speaker 1: your former house to to set the records straight here?

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Speaker 1: Are we really going to do this? So there there

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Speaker 1: are going to be members of the House who are

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Speaker 1: going along with this for the next twelve months. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think whenever the president starts to mount

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Speaker 1: off on the way, which in Arizona it actually works

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Speaker 1: to the benefit of Democrats quite frankly. Um, But it

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Speaker 1: also I think sadly demonstrates to strangle hold that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump has over the GOP, the Grand Law Party, and

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Speaker 1: party system. It does not exist right now. Some would

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Speaker 1: argue it doesn't exist for Democrats, eide that it's certainly

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Speaker 1: And I think that's said for our country because if

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Speaker 1: it continues down this, he will be the nominee for president,

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Speaker 1: I think unfortunately, um, but for the GOP. But I

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Speaker 1: think for Democrats that's a good thing, is Joe right, Rick?

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Speaker 1: How do you run against that? And And isn't there

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Speaker 1: an inherent danger when millions of of people believe in

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Speaker 1: I mean they're always and conspiracy theories in in in

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Speaker 1: want Donald Trump to go full Donald Trump, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you can spend every single day for the next

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Speaker 1: even more and more bizarre conspiracy theories, at that point,

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Speaker 1: even people who support him are gonna start scratching head on. Gee,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I can get reelected doing this stuff. Um,

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Speaker 1: and so so go to it. Donald Trump, I mean,

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Speaker 1: take take the gasoline, dash yourself and then play with matches.

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Speaker 1: I mean like, because that's what he's doing with the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party. More he does it, the more likely is

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Speaker 1: we can abandon him as a leader in the party

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Speaker 1: and get on with business of government. I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you both about the big events tomorrow. The news

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Speaker 1: conference four pm Washington time. It's President Biden's only second

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Speaker 1: news conference, formal news conference at the White House. I

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Speaker 1: know he's answered questions in in other forums. I rewatched

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Speaker 1: his March news conference earlier today that that was kind

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Speaker 1: of the precedent that was set. A lot of it

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Speaker 1: some of it was actually about voting rights. We don't

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Speaker 1: both of you, though, Joe Crowley, what's the most important thing?

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Speaker 1: What's job number one for Joe Biden tomorrow? Well, I

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Speaker 1: think tomorrow it's gonna be about voting rights. Suddenly after

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Speaker 1: also an opportunity to talk about things he's got he's

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Speaker 1: he has accomplished, like the bipartisan infrastructure Billy and talk

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Speaker 1: about what they're doing to come back COVID as well

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Speaker 1: and get us out of this crisis. What are they

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Speaker 1: prepping the president on today, Rick, What does he need

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Speaker 1: to do tomorrow? What's the posture? Yeah, I think the

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Speaker 1: that's going to get him over the hump on this.

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Speaker 1: But to build back confidence with the American people, he

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Speaker 1: has to show competency. He has to have a plan

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Speaker 1: going forward. I think he does a quick round the tour,

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Speaker 1: like Joe says, of how many things he's done in

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Speaker 1: this first year, but he's got to show a plan

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Speaker 1: for the next year and years following. He needs to

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Speaker 1: get sleep tonight to Rick Davis and former Congressman Joe Crowley.

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Speaker 1: Great panel, great conversation today, and love the insights. You

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Speaker 1: know they say the State of the Union, which is

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Speaker 1: coming up, is the super Bowl of politics. But these

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Speaker 1: formal news conferences at the White House are close and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bring you the sound tomorrow. We'll have expert

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Speaker 1: analysis right here in the fastest hour in politics. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg