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Speaker 1: it shakes out when they all when they all find

432
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Speaker 1: their spot.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, especially the teams that succeeded had a nice

434
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: bounce back year last year and started building those relationships

435
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail. I'm talking about David Brandon Baylor, right.

436
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to finish in the top

437
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Speaker 2: ten fifteen, but I think they're going to keep ascending

438
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail. So something to pay attention to, because, yeah,

439
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be able to capitalize that year just

440
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: because those relationships take a little while to come to fruition.

441
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Speaker 2: But no, I think you're gonna see a lot of those.

442
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Speaker 2: Either a team who's been really down and has a

443
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Speaker 2: new coach and can recruit to hey, come play early.

444
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Speaker 2: It's a new that's the dawn of a new era.

445
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: Or we're clearly good now that you've seen it on

446
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Speaker 2: the field, let's talk these next you know, one to

447
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Speaker 2: two recruiting cycles and figure out how we can get

448
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Speaker 2: you in the fold. So no, everything. I think Marcus

449
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: Freeman's gonna do a great job. I don't think they're

450
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Speaker 2: going to finish in the top three, probably, but there'll

451
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Speaker 2: be a top eight program I think on the in

452
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Speaker 2: the recruiting rankings, and that's a huge win for Notre

453
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Speaker 2: Dame to sort of stack a year over year.

454
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Speaker 1: I got to use the scroll wheel on my mouth

455
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Speaker 1: stand to get down to Oregon at thirty one.

456
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Speaker 2: What's their average rating. I just don't think they have

457
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Speaker 2: a big class yet. I think they're like a top

458
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Speaker 2: seven or eight average rating. It's in the nineties right just.

459
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Speaker 1: Just eight commitments right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, ninety point

460
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: nine five is what I'm seeing here.

461
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's I look last night when I

462
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Speaker 2: was researching, I think there's this above number four Penn State,

463
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Speaker 2: something like that. They're in a good spot.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right around they'll be.

465
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Speaker 2: I think I think Dan Lanning is going to pull

466
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Speaker 2: in a pretty monster class this year.

467
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Speaker 1: Anything else that has been forefront for you in the

468
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Speaker 1: college football news department.

469
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Speaker 2: No, not especially. We have you know, media days coming

470
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Speaker 2: up in the next few weeks for these conferences, and

471
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Speaker 2: not a terrible amount comes up, but it gives us

472
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Speaker 2: something to talk about. We have our own previews which

473
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Speaker 2: we've started researching and preparing for that we're going to

474
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Speaker 2: be doing here soon. No, but news wise, I don't.

475
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Speaker 2: I mean I remember going to the Elite eleven about

476
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Speaker 2: a decade ago. That's happening right now with top quarterbacks.

477
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Speaker 2: So they if you're interested in quarterbacks throwing into nets,

478
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Speaker 2: there's the content is out there for you quarterbacks throwing

479
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Speaker 2: into nets. It's there for you, but otherwise, no to

480
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Speaker 2: get into some of these prompts if you don't mind.

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Speaker 1: Here is something we've been doing. We talked about this

482
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Speaker 1: about two weeks ago. We've done a bunch of shows

483
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Speaker 1: throughout the month of June where we essentially crowdsourced. We

484
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Speaker 1: went out to you on social media, on Patreon, wherever,

485
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Speaker 1: and said, we want to get your input on these

486
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Speaker 1: specific topics. So Dan's been posting stuff out there. I've

487
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Speaker 1: been posting stuff out there. We've just been posing questions

488
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Speaker 1: for people, things that we find interesting. We want to

489
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Speaker 1: get your take on where you stand on some of

490
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Speaker 1: these types of topics. You've got a long list here,

491
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this right now, a long list of

492
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Speaker 1: other ones that we weren't able to include in our

493
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Speaker 1: last episode when we did for ball Er Top threes, Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: which did really well and people loved it and wanted

495
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Speaker 1: to do more of it. We had a bunch of

496
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Speaker 1: spill over from that. We also continued asking more of

497
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Speaker 1: them because we just thought it was fun. So why

498
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Speaker 1: don't you tell me where do you want to start

499
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Speaker 1: with these? Which one really jumped out to you.

500
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Speaker 2: I liked the asking people to be honest about the

501
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Speaker 2: things they're most worried about with their teams. It's sort

502
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Speaker 2: of a preview to the preview, and for some people

503
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: they didn't include their actual team, and their concerns were

504
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: surprisingly applicable to like eighty seven percent of teams. Like

505
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: I'm worried about offensive line consistency, I'm working, I'm worried

506
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: about like play calling in big situations. I'm worried about

507
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: quarterback play. I was like, Okay, I can actually click

508
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: this person's profile to see, oh, okay, they're a SO

509
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: and so fan, or I can just guess and maybe

510
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: we can guess on some of these that don't have them,

511
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Speaker 2: but there's there's a good number of them that were

512
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: very specific, like here, look, we've got a Baylor concern

513
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Speaker 2: from who do we have we have that guy Mason

514
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: Clyde Hart, offensive skill position, youth. Okay, fair concern. I

515
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: would say, you just did a little bit of Baylor studying.

516
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: We'll get into that in the coming weeks. He's got

517
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Speaker 2: returning secondary experience.

518
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Speaker 1: That's a problem for Baylor.

519
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: Jalen Petree is that the gentleman who anchored.

520
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Speaker 1: That that secondary not there anymore, so, uh.

521
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Speaker 2: Managing expectations as returning champs fair enough, that's reasonable. And

522
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Speaker 2: new quarterback who has not been a full time starter yet,

523
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Speaker 2: I think.

524
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Speaker 1: That's I think that's extremely reasonable and a lot of

525
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Speaker 1: what I've already written down for Baylor.

526
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Speaker 2: As a Buckeye fan. Matt Patel linebacker play, totally fair,

527
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Speaker 2: Totally fair in terms of like that upper echelon. Dude,

528
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Speaker 2: I think I saw. I don't know if whose messageboard geniuses,

529
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Speaker 2: but somebody copy pasted maybe with somebody eleven warriors, Ohio

530
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: State gets seventeen to five star receivers, and the reaction was, Okay,

531
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Speaker 2: we get it. Where are the linebackers? Can you imagine

532
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: being that spoiled as a camp pa? Okay, we get it.

533
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Speaker 2: Safety play and stopping the run, getting sacks, slash getting

534
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: home versus just pressure fair enough. I think all those

535
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 2: are reasonable. I think the scheme will be pretty helpful

536
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Speaker 2: for Ohio State. That sort of sir blitz a lot

537
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: Jim Knowles and the cover zero and just a lot

538
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: of pressure. I think is going to be an added

539
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: bonus for on what should be an improved defense. It's

540
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Speaker 2: just the guy thing, Ty.

541
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Speaker 1: It's a guy thing. I'm not worried about Ohio State

542
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: at all. Ohio State's probably going to be my pick

543
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: to win the national championship. Wow. I am all in

544
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Speaker 1: on their offense. I have no issues with the offense.

545
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're still figuring out some stuff along the line,

546
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Speaker 1: but the skill talent's there. We know about the skill

547
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Speaker 1: talent defensively, and I brought this point up years and

548
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: years ago about Oklahoma. I've continued bringing it up about Oklahoma.

549
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Speaker 1: I don't think we necessarily need Ohio State to have

550
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Speaker 1: a shutdown defense. Everybody wants a shutdown defense. They do

551
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Speaker 1: not need to have a shutdown defense to win the

552
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Speaker 1: Big Ten, to win a playoff game, maybe to win

553
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Speaker 1: the national championship.

554
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Speaker 2: Oh full disagree there.

555
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Speaker 1: They don't have to have a shutdown defense because I

556
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Speaker 1: think the offense will be so good they'll be able

557
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: to outscore some teams. Yeah, of course, I'm not worried

558
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Speaker 1: about the defense the way I think a lot of

559
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Speaker 1: people are. I'm just not.

560
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Speaker 2: Well. They're also a team who has recruited arguably better

561
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Speaker 2: than anybody over the last DECI Aiden won one national

562
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: championship and totally the opportunity with granted a wounded justin fields,

563
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Speaker 2: we saw a subpar defensive coordinator and slow linebackers getting

564
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Speaker 2: matched up with Devonte Smith shut down. It was not good.

565
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Speaker 2: It probably was not in the context of where it

566
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Speaker 2: should be to compete with who they are presumably building

567
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Speaker 2: classes like. So I would say, yes, they should have

568
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Speaker 2: a shutdown defense in the way that they did in

569
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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen when they came together when Darren Lee was

570
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Speaker 2: going sideline to sideline and Larry Johnson was coaching that

571
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Speaker 2: line against Oregon magnificently to win the national championship. I

572
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Speaker 2: think they do. I think it's you want to win

573
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Speaker 2: a national championship, your defense needs to have all Americans

574
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Speaker 2: and first round draft picks.

575
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's where we are. I'm not saying

576
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Speaker 1: fiftieth overall defense, Dan No, I know. But I'm also

577
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Speaker 1: not saying it has to be top fifteen. They could

578
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Speaker 1: be a top twenty five defense with that offense could

579
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Speaker 1: still win it all. They're that good on offense. I

580
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Speaker 1: don't think my take just my take.

581
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Speaker 2: I understand, I understand your take, but I'm.

582
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Speaker 1: All in on the Buckeyes this year all in.

583
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Speaker 2: I guess I guess your analog would be recently, it

584
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: would have to hit like LSU twenty nineteen heights. They

585
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: had a very good defense, but not perfect defense, but

586
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: that is that is a high high bar. That's still

587
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: an NFL defense with like top level NFL. Oh yeah, yeah, and.

588
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Speaker 1: They'll be talent on Ohio States as well, even if

589
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Speaker 1: it doesn't all come together the way folks would hope

590
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Speaker 1: in year one of a new scheme. But what really

591
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Speaker 1: strikes me about Ohio State as I've been going through

592
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Speaker 1: and starting to do the reading on the Buckeyes, I

593
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: still find it kind of appalling that CJ. Stroud to

594
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: me feels underrated. He still feels underrated. He was at

595
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Speaker 1: the Heisman ceremony in New York. First year starting quarterback

596
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Speaker 1: Bryce Young took up all the oxygen in the proverbial room.

597
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: Everybody knew about c J. Stroud had the stuff early

598
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: where they sat him out to rest his arm or

599
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: whatever the hell that was. But yeah, he came in,

600
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: completed about seventy percent of his passes, didn't throw as

601
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Speaker 1: many touchdowns or interceptions I believe as Bryce Young, but

602
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: the numbers were eye popping. He had great receivers to

603
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: have great receivers again. The backfield is better this year.

604
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Speaker 1: The line I think will be better this year. We

605
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Speaker 1: know the defense will be better this year. There's a

606
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Speaker 1: lot around him that's going to improve. So I am

607
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: really excited about Ohio State. They're gonna be my pick.

608
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Speaker 1: I haven't done the PREVW yet, but I'm telling you

609
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Speaker 1: right now, like news flash, I'm not going to play

610
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Speaker 1: the sound again. Buck Buckey's are gonna be my team.

611
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: Cod LSU one quarterback, two quality depth everywhere except wide receiver,

612
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: and three of the SEC west is hard.

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Speaker 1: Okay, those are that's very real. High hurdles, yeah, thank you,

614
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Speaker 1: thank you. High hurdles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I agree with all of that though.

616
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Speaker 2: Penn State offensive tackle, one, offensive guard, two center three

617
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: that comes to us from Brian McBride. I think that's right.

618
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Speaker 2: But they've recruited relatively well along the offensive line, and

619
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Speaker 2: it is now year two of a new scheme which

620
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: they had what three coordinators in three years last year

621
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Speaker 2: something like that, so it's going to take a second. Next,

622
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Speaker 2: we've got hitting bullpen and running errors from a Braves fan, which, look,

623
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Speaker 2: I didn't say college football. I suppose I think we

624
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: had Dan Klobocar mentioned produced basketball concerns that he has.

625
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Speaker 2: We've got a lot of offensive line. We've been an

626
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: Iowa State fan roster turnover. If you remember going into

627
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: last year, it was how many upper classmen were returning,

628
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Speaker 2: which is why everybody was so bullish on the clones

629
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Speaker 2: secondary on the defense. Then Hunter Deckers taking over for

630
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Speaker 2: such a prolonged starter in brock Purty.

631
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean Theowa State one I think is

632
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: super interesting this year Hunter Deckers. People are excited about

633
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: Hunter Deckers. He's a lefty, which is awesome, Like, we

634
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: don't get to see enough lefties out there play quarterback.

635
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: Oh I know, I just like that. There's something novel

636
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Speaker 2: about it. We're like, ooh, new wrinkle of the other shoulder.

637
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. But to his point, they returned something like

638
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: nineteen of twenty two starters last year and this year

639
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: they're they're down kind of the core of their team,

640
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: like they're down seven regulars I think on offense. But

641
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: the notable names are both the tight ends, Chase Allen,

642
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Chas Kohler, they're gone, Rock Purdy gone, Breise Hall gone,

643
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: and then Mike Rose on defense, that's like the fearsome

644
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: five some of course, that was really the heart and

645
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: soul of this team. And Joel Lanning's still gone. Yes,

646
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Joel Lanning is still gone, still gone, That is correct.

647
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: So you know, we could dive in once we get

648
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: to previews and talk about the wide receivers and line

649
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But I do think that losing

650
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: that nucleus. A lot of guys are still there, but

651
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: losing really that nucleus of those f guys is going

652
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: to have a pretty big impact on the clothes.

653
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: I think Iowa State hopefully will get back to it's

654
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: preferred I'm sort of personifying Iowa State as an object

655
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: whatever it's preferred state, which is lurking in the shadows

656
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: right expectations, you know, having the house lights on them,

657
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 2: that's different. It's a different animal when we're like we're

658
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 2: familiar with all of these players and what Matt Campbell

659
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: can do and Haykock can do running this defense. Like

660
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: the more attention Iowa State got, the more eyeballs were

661
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 2: on them. I'm not saying that's why they were losing

662
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: close games, but there is something I think built into

663
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: the DNA of teams like Iowa State who are down

664
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: forever and then make that move up, hold on to

665
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: the coach. Just lurk in the shadows a little bit.

666
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: Let Texas and quinn Ewer as an arch manning in Oklahoma,

667
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: and Dylan Gabriel and Bretfeld. Let them get all of

668
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: the attention Iowa States.

669
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: Just lurk. There is sort of an anonymous quality to

670
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: the way that Matt Campbell's run that program. I think

671
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: they prefer it that it seems like they thrive on that.

672
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: They also want to be cool, though they also want

673
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: to be in that upper trust of the Big twelve.

674
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: Everybody does. That's just the way this thing works. And

675
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: so they are at a pivotal point in twenty twenty

676
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: two because they lose so much of that nucleus and

677
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: they are kind of back to square one in a

678
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: sense with so many new starters. However, the floor has

679
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: been elevated under Matt Campbell. The recruiting has been better,

680
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: the talent from top to bottom is better. So this

681
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: is very much an exercise in who is Iowa State

682
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: as a football program, maybe not as a team. In

683
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, I am most interested in what is

684
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: this program? Where is this program at after losing all

685
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: that talent, sort.

686
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: Of mentioning the fact that it takes a year or

687
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: two after having successful seasons to see the fruits of

688
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: that winning really get picked off the recruiting vine. They

689
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: have an allegeal eleven quarterback right now, JJ Cole coming in, which,

690
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: by the way, great Iowa state quarterback name, JJ Cole Kohl,

691
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 2: by the way, So that that is something to look

692
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: forward to that perhaps at different spots, especially quarterback. You know,

693
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: Matt Matt Campbell's gonna be gonna be curving that recruiting

694
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: hat a little bit more.

695
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: It is like they closed down the coals by us.

696
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know what the status is

697
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: out there.

698
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 2: That's too bad. That's a shame.

699
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: What else do we got?

700
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: Offensive line? Edge safety? What school is he talking about? Oh,

701
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: looks like Texas Alfredo.

702
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: Hmm interesting. Interesting.

703
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: I think those are all good concerns.

704
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: The defensive line I think has enough back that they

705
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: should be better up front. The secondary on the back

706
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: half of things, they don't quite have the experience of

707
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: a year ago, but they've got options, so you know,

708
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: you would think they'd be better. They've got enough coming back.

709
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: The question is and It's one that we ask every

710
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: year when we do previews. Having a lot back, does

711
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: that make you better or worse? Right, it makes you

712
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: more experienced.

713
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, that returning production number can be deceiving.

714
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: It can't. It can be a bit of a mirage.

715
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I did see. And of course there's another

716
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: thing we see every year. I did see that. Per

717
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkesian, he made a comment that it does seem

718
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: as if finally, finally, the defensive linemen are quote buying

719
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: into the line coaches system. They're always buying in. Gotta

720
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: buy in. Yeah, so he's seeing that buy in. That

721
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: makes him encouraged.

722
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: Gotta be all in, got to be all in. Georgia

723
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: fan here Parish, long time reballer, inside linebacker, safety, and

724
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: quarterback for Georgia now obviously in a luxurious place.

725
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: A quarterback quarterback? Yeah, would you list quarterback if you

726
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: were putting a list together for Georgia?

727
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: Yes?

728
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: Really? Why?

729
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: Because they're so strong in so many places. Receiver is

730
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: an interesting one as well, given what they lost to

731
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: transfer in the NFL. They're in a good place at receiver.

732
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: They've got some unproven do UDEs who I think can

733
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 2: step up. But quarterback is interesting to me just because

734
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: I don't know in the wake of that year. I

735
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: think because of how good that defense was last year,

736
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: the offense needed to score like thirteen points a week

737
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: and they would have gone undefeated probably until you know,

738
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: getting to the SEC Championship, et cetera. I think the

739
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 2: defense is going to be really really good, really really

740
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: really really good. It's just not going to be historically

741
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: lights out, and so I just think they're going to

742
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: have to win more with offense. I think more is

743
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: going to fall to Stetson Bennetts shoulders. There's going to

744
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: be more creativity needed, more like he would bombit downfield,

745
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: he would make plays with his legs, he would get

746
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: it to brock Bauers, but that intermediate passing game, more

747
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: timing routes, like. I just think there's going to be

748
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: more expected of him, given the experience that he now

749
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: has as a winning quarterback, that there is going to

750
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: be a game that they're going to have to win

751
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: thirty five thirty one interesting.

752
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: Interesting.

753
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: I just think there's going to be more needed from

754
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: him than there was last year. When you have I

755
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: mean the Parish mentioned inside linebacker, when you have Nikobe Dean.

756
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 2: When you have guys all over the field that are

757
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: taken in the first round of the draft, you know,

758
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: I just it's going to be a different kind of

759
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: great year for Georgia in the way that you know,

760
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: the rhythm and tenor of the games that happened. I

761
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: just think more is going to have to be on

762
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: his plate. And I think that's a valid concern.

763
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: And that was a concern a year ago with Stetson Bennett.

764
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: I remember in the build up to the National Championship game,

765
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: we talked about what's going to happen if they really

766
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: have to lean on this guy's arm to get things done. Sure,

767
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: because you'll recall back in twenty twenty that didn't work

768
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: out so well, right, didn't work out so well. There

769
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: were plenty of moments when he was good. There are

770
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: also moments when he wasn't as good, and we started

771
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: to see flashes last season of him being able to

772
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: handle that workload or being able to handle some of

773
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: those higher leverage moments. I'm not worried about this at all.

774
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: I mean, they'll be different at I just think there's

775
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: no you can't expect George's twenty twenty one offense to

776
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: continue being exactly what Georgia needs to win games. Yeah, fair, fair,

777
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: that's all. I think those are all reasonable answers. Oklahoma

778
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: from Gonzo strange love, good name, very unusual budget. That's

779
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: what they wrote down on the birth certificate. Sure, the

780
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: secondary for Oklahoma the offensive line and depth at quarterback,

781
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: because even when quarterback has been a struggle. Last year,

782
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: somebody was waiting behind Spencer Rattler, who was mostly good.

783
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: They don't have that guy, an obvious guy behind Dylan Gabriel.

784
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: This year there's another illegal eleven quarterback and Brandon mentioned

785
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: Jackson Arnold l He's next year, but behind Dylan Gabriel.

786
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Fewer answers. And even before the Caleb Williams Spencer Ratler thing,

787
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: there was you know, Tanner Mordecai and was Chandler Morris

788
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: to transfer from Oklahoma. There was the whole thing with

789
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: him transferring to TCU. And then I want to say,

790
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: Austin Kendall, guys who have who have gotten run as

791
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: starters elsewhere, there's just less in the way of obvious guys.

792
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: I look, I'm pretty concerned about Oklahoma's defense in the

793
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: immediate term, not in the long term, and Yeah, offensive

794
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: line was such a strength for so long. It's not

795
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 2: this year. It's just not. I think all these these

796
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: concerns are pretty well founded.

797
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel played three games last year before he broke

798
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: his collarbone and was out the rest of the year.

799
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: Was out the rest of the year. Announced in late

800
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: November that he's going to transfer. There was some fanfare

801
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: as to where he might end up. Ultimately goes to

802
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma sort of like.

803
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: Sneaks in there before Jackson dart Can and and reunites

804
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: with Jeff Levy.

805
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: Yep. I I'm not sure how I feel about this.

806
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: I think Dylan Gabriel is very good. What concerns me, though,

807
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: is the injury in the fact that he's not that

808
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: big of a guy. It's not like a big, hulking,

809
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: brooding quarterback. And it's fine, it's college football.

810
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, neither was Kyler.

811
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but especially when you talk about it in terms

812
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: of depth. Ya'll talk about it in terms of depth,

813
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: and I think we know we've got roughly with Dylan Gabriel,

814
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: but we don't know much about the guy behind him.

815
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: To go from sort of an embarrassment of riches at

816
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: quarterback to an entirely new system, entirely new name guy

817
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: who was hurt last year. I understand why you would

818
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: list that. I do.

819
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in a pretty decent place. If the line

820
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: is okay, receiver should be decent. Even down Mario Williams

821
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: and Jaden hazel Wood. There's what Marvin Mims back, THEOIZ healthy,

822
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: some was it Drake Stoops still there. They're okay. But

823
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: in terms of star power, there's no Hollywood Brown, Nodde Westbrook,

824
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: there's no Ceedee Lamb, at least obviously right now. We'll

825
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: see how good THEOIZ is now that he's finally healthy,

826
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: so I think he's in it. He'll have better receivers

827
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: presumably than he had at UCF when healthy, and now

828
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: he has Levy, they'll be playing fast. So I'm not

829
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 2: super worried, but I think, yeah, you're right to be concerned,

830
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: along with what was it Gonzo Strange love about Oklahoma's

831
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's concerns. I have a Minnesota one oh from the

832
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: Norwegian gopher Tanner Morgan still there. I'm not crazy concerned

833
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: about Tanner Morgan. I think I'm more concerned about who

834
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: he's throwing to, or maybe who he's not throwing to

835
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: Sean Bateman is still not there, just like Joel Annings

836
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: still not still not at Iowa State state offensive line depth.

837
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: They did take hits there, and then the health of

838
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: Moebrahim obviously coming off of an injury, and they lose

839
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: running back depth. I believe because I know one guy

840
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: went to Oregon, Marquise Irving, who is a former blue

841
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: chip running back, and then I think it's Kai Thomas

842
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: who transferred to to Kansas. So I think that's all fair.

843
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: But Minnesota, I think they're just going to run the

844
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: ball and play good defense. And fully they have the

845
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: return of Kirk Shiraka if I'm not mistaken, that's right, got.

846
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: Rid of Mike Sanford junior, to bring back Kurt Sharrock.

847
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: I got to get the sound up rough I lost.

848
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: It offensive coordinator, and I don't know that's this is

849
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: their destiny, run the ball and play defense. Congratulations on

850
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: your your Big ten West membership.

851
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he mentions mo mo Ibraheim. Yeah, this

852
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: is a team that likes to run the ball, and

853
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: they lost some guys up front, so I think that's

854
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: important to look at and see how that line congeals

855
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: as we get a little bit closer to the season.

856
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm I just like the idea of offense

857
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: or excuse me, defensive coordinators. And it's also true of Oklahoma.

858
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: Like the talent, the upper end talent is not in

859
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: Norman right now. On defense, they're pretty good at linebacker,

860
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: but Minnesota has guys, but it's just not super high end.

861
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Speaker 2: I like the idea of throwing junk at teams. I

862
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: like the idea of like the oldie where it's like

863
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Speaker 2: John Haycock running the three two six to combat big

864
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: twelve offenses, or Jim Knowle's running you know, cover zero

865
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Speaker 2: and forcing quick decisions and you know, banking on the

866
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: fact that quarterbacks aren't great at always finding their hot guy. Like,

867
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Speaker 2: that's all really fun. And I think Brent Venables and

868
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: your guy Ted Ruff are eventually going to do a

869
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: very good job of that at Oklahoma. And I like

870
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: everything that they've done in Minnesota as well and getting

871
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: that defense to a really nice place. So I'm pro

872
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: these situations in the medium and long term.

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Speaker 1: All righty, Well, look Solid Verbal at gmail dot com

874
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: is the email address, don't forget. You can also reach

875
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: out anywhere on social media, we would encourage you to

876
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: send along your own top three list, things that, as

877
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: you look at your team or another team that you're

878
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: familiar with, frankly, could be anybody, what are your concerns

879
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: for that program moving forward into twenty twenty two, we'll

880
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: continue reading these. I'm sure we'll get more as we

881
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: get closer to previews. We also have a long list

882
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: of other top three lists that we're going to continue

883
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Speaker 1: to go through in our next episode, which drops next week.

884
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: Do you want to do a quick chill roommate scan

885
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: or do you want.

886
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: To say chill room explain what that means?

887
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: Which national college or I mean it could be anybody

888
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: in the country. I'd say limit it to FBS, but

889
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 2: you know, I'm open to to finding out which mascot

890
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: would make for the chillst roommate. I asked for a

891
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: top three. I don't know if you immediately at the

892
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: top of your head, so I will say, if this

893
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: mascot were a human, and some mascots already are humans,

894
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: but given their personalities, their idiosyncrasies that we know about, like,

895
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: for example, I look this up and colleagues specifically, it's

896
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: a rough collie. Is what revelly is as opposed to

897
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 2: a border collie. Right, They're pretty high maintenance, they're loyal,

898
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: they're smart, but they can be pretty high made. But

899
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 2: you said chill, Yes, well everybody wants a chill roommate,

900
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: right right?

901
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: I mean a dog is a Dog's a pretty good answer.

902
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: I think, no, I know, but I'm saying, if if

903
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: a rough collie, if the characteristics of a rough collie,

904
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: if the characteristics of the Stanford tree, if the characteristics

905
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: of an alligator and Albert, Albert whatever were a just

906
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: a human roommate, Okay, Like for examples, alligators lay pretty low. Literally, Yeah,

907
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 2: they lay pretty low. They don't make a ton of noise.

908
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: They snarl, they do snap at you. They'll snap at you.

909
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: They So you're asking what is the what is the

910
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: human counterpart there?

911
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like what if if this specific mascot like Ramses

912
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: at North Carolina, you know, a husky I don't know

913
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: enough about, you know, I think it's what is the husky?

914
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: It's a malliumate something like that. Uh, if they were

915
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: a roommate. That's all I want to know is who

916
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: which college mascot would make for the chillistomates? So you

917
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: want predictable, you want low key, not somebody who's gonna

918
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: steal your food, not somebody who's going to Like the

919
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: West Virginia Mountaineer, you're getting protection. You got musket in hand,

920
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: you can see little hairs everywhere, you got beard, you've

921
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: got the coonskin cap. Like, there's just a lot to that,

922
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: very specific clothes. It's there's there's some high maintenance there,

923
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 2: but all at the same time problem solver probably in

924
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: a mountaineer, right, somebody who's survivals of the land can

925
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: help out. Well, the mountaineer will probably help you change

926
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 2: attire stuff like that. So I think that's a solid choice.

927
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: But I don't want to limit just human mascots. So

928
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: if that mascot, like gophers are messy, let's be real,

929
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: like somebody with gopher tendencies, kind of a pack rat

930
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: dealing with dirt. I don't I wouldn't want somebody that

931
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 2: I would describe as gopher ish. So that's all I'm thinking.

932
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: What about a witch buck guy a nut?

933
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Like, what is a nut? What is a buckeye's quality

934
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: in a person? Sure, it's sort of just nothing, right,

935
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: just a big old smile. Oh, so you're talking about brutus.

936
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:23,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a roommate. Yeah, a big head. So you're

937
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: dealing with I don't know, I don't know how to

938
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Speaker 2: extrapolate brutus as a roommate. There's a lot of excitement there, right,

939
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of like happy energy, which is great

940
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: to have around, but it could get tiring. Yeah, that's

941
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: sort of wide eyed, always smiling, always on, always positive.

942
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: That's that toxic positivity tie. That's what would get old

943
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: to me a little bit, having to deal with it

944
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: all the time.

945
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: You're going to be dealing with extremes the matter. Who

946
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: you pick here, that's the problem.

947
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I mean, but it's what you're looking

948
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: for in a roommate.

949
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: You pick Sparty, it's just constantly going to be bodybuilding.

950
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: You pick the demon Deacon, it's constantly going to be

951
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: that scowl. There's really no happy medium here.

952
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: There's the the the warring history of a Spartan, right

953
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: that there, there's there's a combative nature to Sparty press conducive.

954
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, predispose to that.

955
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried. I'm a little bit worried about that.

956
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk more about this on the next show.

957
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate everyone's feedback. We do have more of these

958
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: top three lists, and we'll continue to go through those

959
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: as we drop our next episode, is it gonna be

960
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: July fourth?

961
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: Next episode will be a July fourth Independence fireworks grilling

962
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: themed episode. Absolutely. I also think about, by the way,

963
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: before I lose it, like this is like my Roberts,

964
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: a Longhorn roommate's dropping a lot of bombs, dropping a

965
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 2: lot of bombs and blowing up a lot of bathrooms.

966
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: That's not ideal. Have company over constantly having to deal

967
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: with candles and fabrill It's just a lot, That's all

968
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: On that note, for that guy over there, my good

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