1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, It's Daniel Jeremiah. Remove the sticks, and I'm 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. And this is Kyla Murray. Three six Murray 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: in the pocket, my fee workings at his most dangerous. 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: See you do last. It's a look in, touchdown, pull it, 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: pass up the seat, Mars touchdown, Lury trying to get 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: out of there. The escapability. Four complete. It's Draft week. 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: This is our final three sixty episode for the two 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen NFL Draft. And with a guy like Kyler Murray, 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: there's so many reasons why you can potentially be the 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: number one overall pick in this draft. Today, we want 11 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: to focus on three main elements of what makes the 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winning quarterback so special. Number One, he's a 13 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: winner forty three and oh at Allen High School in Texas, 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: three state championships, a hundred and eighty six to little touchdowns, 15 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: and over fourteen thousand yards for his high school. Goes 16 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: on to college, he's a Heisman winner. He's a Big 17 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: twelve champion as a one year starting quarterback at Oklahoma. 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Number two, the unique ability to be a dominant athlete 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: in two sports. Top ten pick in Major League Baseball, 20 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: and a potential number one overall pick in the NFL Draft, 21 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: number three. The dynamic of having to replace Baker Mayfield 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. How did the two All American quarterbacks compare? 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: How are they different? We're here from many people close 24 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray throughout this show, but first let's start 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: with this offensive coordinator at Alan High School in Texas, 26 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: Jeff Leaner. Alright, coach, thank you so much for spending 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: some time with us today. First question from me is 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: just when was the first time you met Kyler Murray 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: and what was your impression. I was able to meet 30 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Kyler when he was actually in middle school. Uh, Kevin, 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: his dad was trying to one of the quarterbacks we 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: at at Allen High School. Uh there in that two 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: thousand and ten, two thousand eleven years and so he 34 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: was in middle school and then his freshman year of 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: high school and got a chance to meet him a 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: couple of times at some of those training sessions, and uh, 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: you know, got to know him a little bit. But 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: for you know, you guys in the media know pretty 39 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: quickly that Kyler is not real trust him of everybody 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: right when he first meets him. So it's definitely fun 41 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: that Uh, he went ahead and came to to Allen 42 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: High School and got to build that relationship with him, 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: you know, and and in in terms of building their relationship, 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: what was it like when you finally had an opportunity 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: to work with him in practice and to see and 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: observe how he interacted with his teammates in games. Oh, 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: it was an absolute blast. I mean you you first 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: just see him that the first two three throws he 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: has just out of practice. The very first time we 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: got to see him practice, he was actually before we'd 51 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: even started our our fall practices, and he met with 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: some of our receivers and our other quarterback just to 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: throw some balls at one of the middle schools. And 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: just from the very beginning, knowing that he's just barely 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: fifteen years old and watching, you know, every thing is perfect. 56 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the the fundamentals. Hits his feet, his arm placement, 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, every single ball, whether he's playing catch from 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: a guy at ten yards away from him or throwing 59 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: a post route down the field, it's it's effortless. And uh, 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things that made it 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: really easy as a coach that you know a lot 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: of times you'd have to spend a lot of time 63 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: working on fundamentals and drops and footwork and things like that, 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: and there was so much of that with Kyler that 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: was just it was just natural or just what he 66 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: had been working on for so long with his dad. Coach. 67 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: For those that don't know, maybe from outside the country, 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: outside the state of Texas, can you kind of paint 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: the picture of just how big time high school football 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: is when when you're coaching over there at Alan High 71 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: School and and the run you guys around. I just 72 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: don't think people maybe if you live in another state, 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: you realize just how big, how important high school football is. 74 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh well, you know anybody that says, if you're gonna 75 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: be high school football coach, you know, there's no other 76 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: place to do it like Texas. You know, there's there's 77 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: stories all over the state of of coaches and Texas 78 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: that loaded up their bags and you haul and their 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: family from from New York or you know, places like 80 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: that and drove down. Didn't have a job, but just 81 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: said we're going to Texas because I want to be 82 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: a high school football coach. And you know, I think 83 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: a little look at you know, Friday Night Lights, the 84 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: movie or the show and and see some of that 85 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and think, well this, you know, some of this has 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: got to be some hyperbolee, some exaggeration for Hollywood, and uh, 87 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: maybe the good and bad of it is that it 88 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: really isn't. Um, you know, the best way to explain 89 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: Alan is when you take the the insanity that is 90 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: Texas high school football. If you want the poster child 91 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: for that, you you look at Alan High School where, um, 92 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think that the fun part of just 93 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: the city of Allen, uh is it is very much 94 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: the small town Friday night lights mentality as far as 95 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna close up shop and go to the football 96 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: game and we're gonna have all that, but on the 97 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: largest scale being the largest high school in Texas, it's 98 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: been very important to them for a long time in 99 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: that city that, uh, they wanted to always be a 100 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: one high school down. They didn't want anybody to have 101 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: to you know, wear a different color shirt or you know, 102 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: support a different team. And they've done a great job 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: in that town continuing that and thinking about the pressure 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: that comes along with being kind of like the the 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: only show in town. You guys went on a historic run. 106 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: You won three straight state titles and Cayler Murray was 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. What did you learn about Cayler Murray 108 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: doing that sustained room when you guys were able to 109 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: kind of dominate the level of competition with him at 110 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Well, you know, I mean there there was 111 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: definitely games that we went went into and we were 112 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: gonna be the better team. But I think that it 113 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: gets overshadowed sometimes is in those runs we went on 114 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: when we got into the playoffs and playing some of 115 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: the powerhouse teams, nationally ranked teams year and in year out. 116 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: I think that's where his leadership in his ability really 117 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: set us apart from everybody else, because you know, there's 118 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: not many games at the highest level in Texas where 119 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna win just because you have the best athlete 120 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: on the field. Uh, you know, you just can't. You 121 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: can't win that way when you're playing the teams like DeSoto, Ules, Trinity, 122 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: Cedar Hill, long View, You're playing you know, all of 123 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: those powerhouse teams, and that's when it has to be 124 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: more than just the talent of a guy like Kyler Murray. 125 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, his leadership is such a different 126 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: style and probably something that's been called him to a 127 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: question a lot because following a guy like Baker Mayfield 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma, everybody that's what they expected, which was, you know, 129 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: Baker was a guy that wasn't afraid to talk in 130 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: front of the microphone and be loud and and be 131 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: the passion guy, the juice guy, the guy given the 132 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: pep talk for the games and dancing and getting all 133 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: the excitement going where. You know, Kyler has always been 134 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: my descript titling assassin um and the confidence that he 135 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: brought to his team just simply on his preparation and play. 136 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: But I think there's just so many people that don't 137 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: get to see his leadership because isn't the out there 138 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: in front of you on social media and front of 139 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: the cameras we we have. I mean, just stories upon 140 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: stories from his three years as our quarterback at practices 141 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: as far as he demanded you to be at your 142 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: very best and be great on single snap and every 143 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: single rep that we took in practice or you were 144 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: gonna hear about it pretty quick. Well, Buck, I thought 145 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: it was was fascinating to listen to coach Fleiner Uh 146 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: talk about his time there with Kyler Murray and you 147 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: kind of get a sense of the seriousness and the 148 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: competitive side of Kyler. Yeah, you get a greater sense 149 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: of how competitive he is, how he held his teammates accountable, 150 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: some of the leadership questions that maybe we had about him, 151 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: he answered those. And more importantly, we get a chance 152 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: to see where he stacked up with some of the 153 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks in high school that played at Texas. The 154 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: guys like the Drew Brees Is to Andrew Lux, Patrick Mahomes, 155 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford, the list goes on and on. 156 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: Look Cala Murray has been called by some the greatest 157 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: player that ever play in the state of Texas as 158 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: a high school athlete. Speak volumes about his ability and 159 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: another person who has watched Kyler Murray closely for years 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: buck ESPN recruiting director and college football analyst Todd Lugan Bill. 161 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: He had Murray ranked as a top overall quarterback in 162 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: thirteen best prospect in the class of two thousand and fifteen. 163 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: And I had a chance to sit down and talk 164 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: with Tom Kyler Murray. Um, I don't know that there 165 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: was a more decorated high school player in terms of 166 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: the success he had there at Alan high school there 167 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: in Texas. But um, when you're evaluating him as a 168 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: high schooler, I mean, how did you how do you 169 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: look at what he's done all that, I mean the 170 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: zillion Division one players on his team, but still he 171 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,479 Speaker 1: stands out like a sore thumb. What was your evaluation 172 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: on him before he went to A and M. I 173 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: think the first thing you've got to do with Kyler 174 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: Murray is gotta just a lot of your stuff to 175 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: remove the measurables and really focused on the production, focused 176 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: on the little nuances of the position, some of the 177 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: things that you can't coach, instincts, pocket awareness, leadership, um, 178 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: a quiet swagger, he doesn't say an awful lot. And 179 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: you know I've said all along and I actually said 180 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: that's when he was coming out, because he too was 181 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: a guy that we had in the under armour game 182 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: and we had talked very very deep with with our 183 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: staff that if this guy was three inches taller, he'd 184 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: be the best quarterback prospect that we had evaluated at 185 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: that time. I think we've been at it ten years, 186 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: we're at it about thirteen fourteen now. Um, But the 187 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: reality is he was you know, five ten and some 188 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: change and you know. The one thing that I've really been, 189 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, focusing on with factcause everybody says, well, is 190 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: he tall enough? Well, it's not is he tall enough, 191 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: it's can he stay durable? Can he protect himself? Because 192 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: the game has changed, it's a shotgun based game. He'll 193 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: find lane, he can change arm angles, he can do 194 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: all those things. He's got much better arm strength, and 195 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: people think he does um and and I think it's 196 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: really important today's game. You've got to be able to 197 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: throw off balance, You've got to be able to make 198 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: throws when things aren't perfect. Those are some of the 199 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: things that he does really, really well. So what you 200 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: really become concerned about is the durability side. There's a 201 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: difference between five ten and six ft. Doesn't seem like 202 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: there is, but there is. However, with Kyler, and I 203 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: don't know if you agree with this, there's also a 204 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: difference between being short and small. No question, he's not small. 205 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: He's short, but he's got some stature to him. And 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: so all the things, you know, I look at what 207 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I call the triple a aptitude, athleticism, accuracy. I think 208 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: he checks those boxes. And then two other things mental toughness, 209 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: and competitive instincts. How difficult was it for you? Because 210 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: this is something I mean, if you'd asked me ten 211 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: years ago, UM, and said, are you actually gonna have 212 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback who at the time we thought was gonna 213 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: be five ft nine as the number one quarterback in 214 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: an NFL draft class, I was ten years ago. I said, 215 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: there's no way. Well, that's you know, I've arrived to 216 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: that point now. It helps, haven't seen you know, Russell Wilson, 217 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Baker not being the biggest guys in 218 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: world having success. But still it's you feel like early 219 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: on the process, you're putting yourself out there a little 220 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: bit to have him as a top quarterback. Was it 221 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: a challenge for you? I mean, you're putting out a 222 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: list on ESPN dot com that everybody in the country 223 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: is going to pay attention to. And are you sitting 224 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: there going, oh man, I mean, I'm gonna wait till 225 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: I get some blowback on this. I've got this five 226 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: ft ten kid rated as highly as I do. I mean, 227 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: how did you navigate those waters? Um? It was difficult? 228 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: And truth be told, when we first kind of started 229 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: charting him as a sophomore and junior, we actually put 230 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: him in our athlete category because I was so concerned 231 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: that from a stature standpoint, I mean, how do you 232 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: go on this guy? And then I had to be convinced. 233 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: I had to see him in person. I I had 234 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: to continue to watch him and see the things that 235 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: he would do and how he would affect a football team. Um, 236 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: but it wasn't It wasn't easy. And I think going 237 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: between his his junior and his senior year was when 238 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: we said, okay, let's transition him into the quarterback category. 239 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: And if if you're going to be university that's gonna 240 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: offer him a scholarship as a quarterback, you need to 241 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: tailor the offense around him. And I still feel the 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: same way now DJ at the National Football League level, 243 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: if you're gonna take him, you're not gonna put him 244 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: on the West Coast. You're not gonna put him under 245 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: center in a multiple pro style offense asking me to 246 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: throw the eighteen yard comeback. You're gonna do what Andy 247 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: Reid has done with Patrick Mahomes and what Doug Peterson 248 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: has done with Nick Foles, because if you don't, you're 249 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: gonna be putting yourself at a disadvantage. If you do, 250 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna maximize Kyler Murray's traits and nobody's 251 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: going to be talking about the fact that he's five 252 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: tending change, no doubt. We know how it ended up. 253 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,359 Speaker 1: We know the Heisman Trophy winning season there at Oklahoma 254 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: as we marched towards the draft. I mean that that's 255 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: there where everybody's focusing. Uh. Last question from me, just 256 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: real simple, what what went wrong for him at Texas 257 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: A and M that led to the transfer? I think 258 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: there are an awful lot of extenuating circumstances that probably 259 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: were more slee off the field as opposed to on 260 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: the field. Is it related to having two talented freshman quarterbacks? 261 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: UM a program where in my opinion, there didn't seem 262 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: to be a lot of locker room discipline, didn't seem 263 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: to really have a lot of direction in terms of 264 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: the leadership of the program. And I just don't think 265 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: it was a good marriage. I don't think the locker 266 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: room was the right environment. Um, it just didn't work. 267 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes it just doesn't work. And I credit the young 268 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: man because when he played, he chose to go somewhere, 269 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: sit out in red shirt wait, which is something very 270 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: hard for kids to do, especially when you're talented the 271 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: way that he is. But sometimes if you have a 272 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: little patience and you're willing to take maybe a little 273 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: bit of a different path to get to where you 274 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: want to get, those sacrifices will end up boring out 275 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: to be fruitful in the end. That's fantastic. Uh, Luke's 276 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time, man, that that 277 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: was a huge help. DJ. That was fascinating stuff from 278 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: Lugan Bill. I think the thing that stands out to 279 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: me is just, man, what would guys have rated Kyla 280 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: Murray if he had been just a little taller, if 281 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: he had kind of those prototypical physical dimensions that you 282 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: typically look for in qb ones. Uh. The fact that 283 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: he was rated as highly as he was coming out 284 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: of high school just continues to kind of semit the 285 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: case that this dude was a special player, a dynamic athlete, 286 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: a remarkable playmaker at the high school level. Now, I 287 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: think it speaks to to the timing, right if if 288 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: this is a player that had come out ten years ago, um, 289 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, without having a Russell Wilson doing what he's doing, um, 290 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: made without having Baker having that immediate success, maybe you 291 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: get a little more penalized for his size, but it 292 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: definitely is a different time, not only for us as 293 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: we look at these guys coming to the NFL, but 294 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: Tom speaking to that fact, as you're looking at high 295 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: school recruits. All right, Buck, I had a chance to 296 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: do a coach his roundtable. We're a chance to sit 297 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: down and visit with four big time college football head coaches, 298 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: including Mike Gundy, somebody that knows firsthand what it's like 299 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: to play against Kyler Murray. Guys, I want to talk 300 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: about a player. I sure if you've played against him 301 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: or you've you've definitely seen him through this process. One 302 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: of the more unique players that I've seen in my 303 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: scouting career is Kyler Murray and the and what he 304 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: presents as an athlete and just a weapon at the quarterback. 305 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: There's not really seen anything like it. Coach Coach Gunny, 306 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: I know you you played the position there first question. 307 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Just the skill set of somebody like that, and how 308 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: fun it is to be a play caller when you 309 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: have somebody Well, I certainly didn't play the position like 310 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: he played it, that's for sure. And uh, he was 311 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: a one and done guy. And and uh, I have 312 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: to say, I'm glad he's one and done. But he's 313 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: being our being in our tribal of us obviously with 314 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: a bad lamb. But but he had has had the 315 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: single greatest year in my opinion of a college quarterback 316 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: for to show up and play one year and then 317 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: move on and and to watch him play live the 318 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: guys fantastic. I mean, it is what it is, uh 319 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: watching him play and the things that he was able 320 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: to do and the success that he's had. And uh, 321 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: he just had a fantastic year in and um um 322 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: we we did not want to compete against him, you know, 323 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: but I will say this, I have a lot of 324 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: respect for him. The way he handled himself, in the 325 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: way that he competed. He was fantastic, all right. Buck 326 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: getting a chance to talk with those guys, I know 327 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: you were, you were there that day as well, got 328 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: a chance to visit with them. It's always fascinating, not 329 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: only talked to guys that have coached someone, but more 330 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: importantly those have coached against him. Yeah, because you get 331 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: their perspective. And it's unique when you standing on the 332 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: opposite sideline and you've had to be in game plan 333 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: meetings where you had to figure out, how do we 334 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: slow this guy down, what do we want to do 335 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: to contain him? Can he be contained? And then you 336 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: play it out and the guy continues to break your heart. 337 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: Unique perspective for guys that have really been on the 338 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: tough end of some losses handed at the hands of 339 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Tell everybody what we've got coming up next year? 340 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: Buck a good a good friend of the show. Also, 341 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: somebody has unique insight here on Kyler Murray well a 342 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: friend of our show and not only uh this show, 343 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: but path to the Draft. Geroe Klett a former Big 344 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: twelve starting quarterback at Colorado and was on the call 345 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: for five Oklahoma Sooner games last fall. He has something 346 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: to say about Calabari when it came to Kyler and 347 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: meeting with him. I know we've talked about before he 348 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: got the job. Did you sense, um, just from a 349 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: comfort standpoint and kind of being the lead man, is 350 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: that something and talking to the folks I talked to 351 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Oklahoma sound like that was kind of an acquired taste 352 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: for him. But having covered as many games as you did, 353 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: did you sense as you were going through the year 354 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: that Okay, he became a little more comfortable as the 355 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: front man. He's just a quiet, confident leader. I think 356 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: that their confidence is virtually the same in the in 357 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: their self belief of what they can do and what 358 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: they can provide. And so I thought that when you 359 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: when you would hear that and you're like, well, Kyler 360 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: is not the you know, he's growing into the leader, 361 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: he says. I think that's more born from their expectations 362 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: of what they just had for Baker. Because when I 363 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: talked to the teammates, they loved Kyler. They love what 364 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: he brought. Um. A quiet confidence is very different than 365 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: a boisterous confidence, but it's still confidence nonetheless. UM. And 366 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: I think as the year went on and I got 367 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: in there more and more often, from f a U 368 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: Week one all the way, you know, until the end 369 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: of the year, which what what I saw was a 370 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: team that gravitated towards his style, a calmness in particular 371 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: on offense, which they needed because their defense was so bad. 372 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: And it was kind of like he just stood up, 373 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: put his home and on It's like, all right, we're 374 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: gonna go score again. And that's kind of how they 375 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: ended up, uh playing so I thought he wasn't um 376 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: a poor leader by any stretch. He was just a 377 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: different leader than Baker. A great insight there from our 378 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: buddy Joel clad who's obviously spent a lot of time 379 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: around Kyler Murray having called all those Oklahoma games. Yeah, look, 380 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 1: he's fantastic. But look you also one of my favorites. 381 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: You and Jeffrey Chadillah were at Oklahoma Pro Day to 382 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: watch the first team All American quarterback with fifty four 383 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: total teschdowns last season. Here's a Haysman Trophy winning quarterback 384 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: Calin Murray and asking everybody around here around the program 385 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: about you for for today and even leading up to 386 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: the combine. Here a lot of the same things. Talk 387 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: about your toughness, talk about your intelligence. I hear great 388 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: things about your work ethic. Everybody says, you know you're quiet, 389 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: You're a little bit quieter. Is there an example? Can 390 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: you give me an example just where you've kind of 391 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: taken over in that in that vocal leadership. Bro, we 392 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: know you're a leader by example, but has there been 393 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: an instance here at oh you where you've got in 394 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: front of the team and shared some things. I mean, 395 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: I can't go through every you know, but it's happened. Yeah, everybody, 396 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: and everybody in the lot locker room knows. I can't 397 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: give you that side on this on the TV show, 398 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: but all my boys know, you know it's you know, 399 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: we turn this intense. It is what you know, it's 400 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: it's time to go. Uh, you know we're not playing around. 401 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: Um then that's just who I am off the field. 402 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: You know. I don't have much to say about it. 403 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: Let's get something straight your teeth. Smile Direct Club strange 404 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: your teeth for six less than embraces with invisible liners 405 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: send directly to you. Simply go online and book a 406 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: free three D scan at one of their smile shops 407 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: or or an at home impression kit. 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I feel like we've 427 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: done a nice job of painting the picture of Kyler 428 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: as a winner. That's really all he's ever done from 429 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: high school on to college. I think we've proven the 430 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: point this guy is a winner. Now the second theme 431 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: of this episode, we're focusing on the dual sports aspect 432 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray. Remember he's a ninth overall selection by 433 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: the Oakland A's in the two thousand eighteen MLB Draft, 434 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: projected as a top pick in the NFL Draft, expected 435 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: to become the first ever athlete draft in the top 436 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: ten in both baseball and football. His high school offensive 437 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: coordinator Jeff Leaner and his follower all from the beginning 438 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: and offers a unique viewpoint on Kyler Murray's dual sports status. Coach, 439 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: what kind of a baseball player was it? You get 440 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: a chance to see him there at the high school? 441 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: How was he as a baseball player? Oh? The blastoming 442 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: to watch him play baseball? And and it's it's so 443 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: funny how the two kind of went together. You know, 444 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: we used to have college coaches that would tell us 445 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: on our football film they loved getting to watch our 446 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: end zone angle of our our of our of our 447 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: film because and in fact, had a really big Division 448 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: one offensive coordinator say that if he didn't feel like 449 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: he was gonna offend the other quarterbacks in his room, 450 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: he would have shown him Kyler's high school tape on 451 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: what your lower half of your body is supposed to 452 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: look like when you're throwing balls and moving in the pocket. 453 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: The same could be said in baseball. It just amazed 454 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: me to go watch a kid like that that just 455 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: everything about his swing was effortless, and everything about his 456 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: hands and and how he just played the entire game. 457 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: It just looks so smooth and so natural, and you know, 458 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: just sitting here thinking about how much people struggle to 459 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: hit a baseball and how to swing and how to 460 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: you know, use your hips and your forearms and your 461 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: legs and your feet and you know, all of that 462 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: stuff and and he just makes it look so effortless. 463 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: But you know, the crazy thing about Kylers as you 464 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: get to know him and hear the stories and and 465 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: get to know his family's you know, he had a 466 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: guy like his dad that that from very early on 467 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: could help him with the football stuff. And then you 468 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: have his uncle, you know, Calvin Murray. Uh, that was 469 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: obviously a professional baseball player and pretty good at it, 470 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: and you know it was able to be trained. But 471 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: more than anything, Kyler was just wired in a way 472 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: that he wanted to be great. Uh. Kevin will tell 473 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: that story a lot that you know, he wasn't one 474 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: of these uh Todd Marinovich dad type of guys where 475 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: it was demanding that his kid do this and practice 476 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: this much. Uh. Kyler's just a kid that three and 477 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: four years old was constantly grabbing Dad, Hey, let's go 478 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: hit balls, let's go let's go do this, let's go 479 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: do that. And I think that's what really sets him apart, 480 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: is you wish every single young athlete had that in him. 481 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: But like I said, he's just wired differently than other people. 482 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: He wants to be great. Um. I think the the 483 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: you know, even looking at his decision to go in 484 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, you know how much of that was 485 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: just because people said he couldn't go play NFL. You know, 486 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: he's a guy that that drives on that proven people wrong. 487 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: I'm just excited that people are starting to see what 488 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: his skill set can do at the highest level. You know, 489 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: coach one thing that I wanted Many people wonder because 490 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: he was so talented and gifted into sports and baseball 491 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: in and football, what's this guy, what's the limit of 492 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: what he could become. I think that's the scariest part 493 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: for everybody is he's never done that. He's never been 494 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: a percent one or the other, and so if he's 495 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: gonna put a dred percent behind something, it's scary to 496 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: think that he could be even better than he is. Um. 497 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: I think, you know, for a guy that split his 498 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: time for so often, you know, and getting to see 499 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: him at the high school level where things are a 500 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: little bit differently as far as getting kids attention spans 501 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: to UH to be focused on what we're trying to 502 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: do win games when there's so many other things going on. UH. 503 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: Within our software that we use too for our film 504 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: we we call huddle. At the high school level, we 505 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: are able as coaches to track how much film guys want. UH. 506 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: When we log in, we can go look, you know, 507 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: as a kid only watching you know, three minutes of 508 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: video or is he watching thirty minutes of video? As 509 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: we sent this stuff out, Kyler was three and four 510 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: times higher in the amount of video he watched than 511 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: anybody else. UM. Some of my favorite memories of Kyler 512 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: were Monday mornings as the offensive coordinator. I would just 513 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: bring him in and go through the game plan of 514 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: what we've seen and what we thought. And you know, 515 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: after that first year of sophomore year, his junior and 516 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: senior year, he started coming in on Monday mornings and 517 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: almost giving me what his game plan was and what 518 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: he thought. And he could break down exactly which safety 519 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: he thought we should attack, or this corner is pretty good, 520 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: or this corner you know he bites on this, but 521 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: he loses receivers if they get on his outside hit 522 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: I mean he was coming in and saying, Hey, we 523 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: need to pick on thirty three and if and if 524 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: this guy ever comes in the game, you better call 525 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: a deep shot right now because that guy can't cover anybody. 526 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he was just so confident and you go, 527 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there thinking, man, this guy might be 528 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: watching more video than I am right now. And it 529 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: was just such a passionate thing for him. Uh, And 530 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: it was fun for me because he really didn't ever 531 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: want any part of I think we should run this 532 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: route or this combination or things like that. He was 533 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: great at where he found windows and places where he 534 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: felt like he could attack. But he was the first 535 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: one that you know, it wasn't he wanted to call 536 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the plays or he wanted to do this. He just 537 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of the process. And so 538 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: I can't say enough about the type of kid he 539 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: is as far as the work that he would put 540 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: in to be great. But he would also take your help, 541 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: take your coaching, which is hard to find, especially at 542 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: the high school level when you have very talented kids. Well, coach, 543 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: we can't thank you enough for taking some time for 544 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: us today. We do appreciate it. We wish you the 545 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: best of luck there at Mesquite High School and the 546 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: fall will be here before you know it. Thanks again 547 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,719 Speaker 1: for your time well and I really appreciate it. Thank you. 548 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: DJ is uncommon for God to be dominant into sports 549 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: and for someone to see it from the ground level. 550 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: Watching him in high school, watching him being able to 551 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: not only dominate him the grid on, but what he 552 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: was able to do on the diamond. You just don't 553 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: see those kind of athletes. You're talking about Dion Sanders, 554 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Bow Jackson caliber stuff that we're hearing about, Cala Murray, 555 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: noll Buck and got a chance to visit with a 556 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: couple of coaches at that coaches roundtable, Um and coach 557 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: Gundey and coach Holgersson talking about recruiting two sport athletes 558 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: to the college level. We're looking at Kyler Murray taking 559 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: it to the NFL level, having a chance if you 560 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: wanted to to play Major League baseball. There's something about 561 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: dual sport athletes and these coaches offer some interesting insight. 562 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: But you guys start at the ground floor recruiting these 563 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: high school kids. Coach Gundy, let's start with you on this. 564 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Just the traits, the gotta have its at that position. 565 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: In your opinion, I think now it's it's a cerebral part. 566 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: Guys that can make a decision quick with the different 567 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: things we see on defense. Um, gott to be very competitive, 568 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: gotta be tough. You know, we we talk a lot 569 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: about our quarterbacks. They're the one guys that take and 570 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: really don't deliver them. They gotta be physically tough. They 571 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: gotta make quick decisions. Mentally. You see a lot of 572 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: guys in shorts and times and seven on seven's in 573 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: the summer. Um they look really good, but they they've 574 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: got to be able to make plays in games. They've 575 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: gotta be competitive, and they've got to be a great leader. 576 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean when we were you know when you we 577 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: had weeding there when you were with us, it was 578 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: a great deal. So, yeah, Brandon was a was a 579 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: different type quarterback. You know, he was a first round 580 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: baseball pick, in the first round football pick. That's pretty 581 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: that's pretty well, that kind of like the one in 582 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: Oklahoma right now. That's that's that's coming out. There's no doubt. 583 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: I'd say the number one thing that I looked for 584 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: I got. I got a pretty soft spot for coaches 585 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: kids he's got one in his house right now. I've 586 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: got one in my house. You know, all those Texas 587 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: Tech guys that we have, they're all coaches kids. Started 588 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: with Cliff Kingsbury. Uh, you know Graham Harrold with all 589 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: the Case Keenum. All these guys are coaches kids. Will 590 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: greer as a as a coaches kid. The one that 591 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: I have at Houston right now, Derek King is a 592 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: special player and he's a coaches kid, you know. So, 593 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: Uh it goes back to the cerebral thing. These coaches kids. Uh, 594 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: they kind of absorbed a lot of the things over 595 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: the years in a in a football office, and then 596 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: they can transfer it onto the field as well. I 597 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: think Coach Gundy just I know the Brandon Whedon with 598 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: his situation he had been drafted in baseball. Uh, coming 599 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: out of high school. You actually had another player that 600 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: was with you that was drafted while you're there, Josh Fields. 601 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: When when I came in with Coach Miles was a 602 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: head coach and I was the the offense coordinator coaching 603 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks right there and and still Water at still Water 604 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: High School was Josh Fields who nobody recruited. He was 605 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: just a guy who was a six ft and a 606 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: half hundred eighty pound baseball football player. We had just 607 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: come in and got the job, so we took him 608 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: because we we had a spot and we couldn't really 609 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: accumulate recruits guys that we needed, so we take him. 610 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: He grows to maybe six one, ends up being a 611 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: hundred ninety pounds, a fantastic quarterback, played force, gets drafted 612 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: UM in the first round bus Chicago White Sox and 613 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: then comes out and and plays and played a little 614 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: bit of pro baseball and then went over to play Japan. 615 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: But the story is, you know, we talked about UM 616 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks being dull sport guys and uh and he was 617 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: a fantastic baseball player obviously, and then a really good 618 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: football player. I thought if he would have played his 619 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: senior year that he would have been a middle round 620 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: pick in football. He had gotten and developed himself that 621 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: well where he understood defenses. He was a student of 622 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: the game, very tough, very competitive, came in. We played 623 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: Oklahoma down there, we were twenty eight point underdogs, and 624 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: breaks his breaks his thumb quarterback breaks of something. He 625 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: comes in and plays finishes in a game. We beat 626 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: him down there and that showed a little bit he's 627 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: a true freshman when he did that, so kind of 628 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: that's the kind of young man we were dealing with. Wow, 629 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: that's not the Kyler Murray is not the first, he 630 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: won't be the last here having to make that decision 631 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: baseball and football. I'm thankful that he chose football. I know, 632 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: you guys at the ender thankful that he decided to 633 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: leave Oklahoma, no doubt. DJ. You know, I'm a fan 634 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: of guys that can play both sports, and I think 635 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear coaches give their take on guys 636 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: that are multi sport athletes. And so, you know, if 637 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about multi sport athletes, we're fortunate to 638 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: talk to one who was outstanding in his own right. Uh, 639 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: a guy who can relate. How about Joel Klatt, here's 640 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports lead college football analysts. Continuing on with the 641 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: baseball theme, how do you think being a standout baseball 642 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: player has impacted his ability to impact the game? And 643 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: for um, skill set wise, I don't think that there's 644 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: a lot of translation at all. Um. I think it's 645 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: all mentality. Um, what position did you play? By the way, 646 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: from Joe was drafted by the pod race man. I 647 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: guess my first scene was drafted by the current first 648 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: place podres go ahead. Uh, that's right, and um their 649 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: scouting department all got fired after that. Now, Um, I 650 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: was a third baseman and um so a position player. 651 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: And and I think that that's important because pictures and 652 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: position players are so different and what they have to 653 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: bring to the table. And one of the things that 654 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: I struggled a lot with is that I had a 655 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: football mentality playing baseball. I wanted to succeed every single time, 656 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: play with a sense of urgency. Is you know, this 657 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: is the most important had better harder's better effort, effort, effort, 658 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: And and that's the way that I wanted to approach baseball. 659 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: That is a failed approach in baseball. You cannot do that. 660 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: The guys that just allow it to come from understand 661 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: that they're regardless of what happens in this opportunity, there's 662 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna be a next opportunity. Regardless of what happens in 663 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: that opportunity, there's gonna be a next opportunity. And those 664 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: are the styles of mentality that I think are really 665 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: successful in baseball. And one of the reasons why he 666 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: had a lot of success in baseball, and then you 667 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: see that approach come to football. So the failure I 668 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: dealt with in baseball as a position player, I thought 669 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: led directly to me being a little bit more calm, 670 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: even though I'm still tightly wound, but as a quarterback. 671 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: So that helped me at Colorado more than anything was 672 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, if I through for I 673 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: was like, man, well a great day. I'm gonna get promoted. 674 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: This is a lot of success, you know. And this 675 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: is back when you know sixty was really more than 676 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: norm rather than the current day. Um, So dealing with 677 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: failure help and I think that came to fruition with 678 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: Kyler as well. That's why I think you see the 679 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: calm nature with the way that he kind of operates 680 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: on the football field and um, but that's the attribute 681 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: that I think translated the most. One of the things 682 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 1: I was thinking about just the way you describe that 683 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: to me, and you hear coaches talk like this buck 684 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: all the time, but um, focusing on the process and 685 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: not the result. It seems to be kind of a 686 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: that's the baseball mentality, you know, That's what it is 687 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: that whatever happens after the ball leaves my bat, that's 688 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: out of my control. But in terms of getting myself 689 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: prepared for that at bat, for that moment, that's my 690 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: job and I can live with whatever happens. It almost 691 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: seems like personality wise, that kind of makes sense the 692 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: way you kind of see Kyler Murray how he handles him, 693 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: no doubt, And and it's not that different from playing quarterback, 694 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: because there are things that are out of your control 695 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: as far as the result goes, you know, but if 696 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: you immerse yourself into the process, into the system. Yeah, candidly, 697 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: I think that's why Brad is so great. You know. 698 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: Now he's made himself a great thrower of the football, 699 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: and he's very accurate down the field, But what he 700 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: does best is operate the process. And and I think 701 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: from that standpoint, you know, I think that that is 702 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 1: a learned trait from baseball that Kyler can can bring 703 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: to the table. Oh. I love our buddy, Joel, and 704 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: some great insight there buck baseball football the difference between 705 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: the two. Although I got a needle Joel this a 706 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: little bit because he was in a first round pick. 707 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: I mean, what, what's the big man? You see? Kyler 708 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: Murray is is gonna be a top ten pick in 709 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: both sports. Joel just got you know, he's just found 710 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: his way into both sports professionally, and may come on, Joel, 711 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: let's let's step up your game a little bit here. Okay, 712 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: that's enough about Joel. Let's here from the man himself 713 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: at his pro day. DJ You and Jeffrey Chadia. We're 714 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: in Norman with the All American quarterback Kyla Murray. You've 715 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: been a two sports star for your entire life and 716 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: your entire career. Here now you have an entire spring 717 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: to focus on football. What's that been like for you 718 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: to not have baseball being the back of your mine? 719 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I've done in my whole life, so I 720 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: mean when people ask me, is it like do you 721 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: have to flip a switch or anything like that? No? 722 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean for me, I touched one field, I do 723 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: my thing on touch other field, and it's time to 724 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: go on that field. So um, I guess yes, now 725 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: that I'm spending all my time playing football, you know, 726 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: people I hope to you know, make a tremendous stride obviously, 727 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 1: but you know that's one day at a time. For me. 728 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: It's always been that way, so that's that's how we're 729 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna keep keep doing it. Well, I asked your coach this, 730 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: and I want you to be really honest about this, 731 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: because this time last year, you were a guy was 732 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: a top ten picking the Bajor League Baseball draft, and 733 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: people were talking about you playing football. Is if you 734 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: just wanted to do it? Because you never had a 735 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: chance to do it. When did you realize this dream 736 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: of playing in the NFL was a lot more realizable 737 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: then than it was a year ago. Uh? Since I 738 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: was a kid, you know, I always wrote it down 739 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: on my paper, you know, playing then you know the 740 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: in NFL. But um, obviously you know the past two 741 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: years I was sitting behind Baker um and all I 742 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: was doing was playing baseball. You know, the scouts obviously 743 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: gotta seen me play baseball, didn't get seen me play football. So, um, 744 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm five ten. You know, we know how everybody thinks, 745 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: you know about that, so not many of us in 746 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: the league. So with not having film and being short, 747 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: you don't know how the NFL feels about you haven't 748 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: played in two years. Uh, and that's just where it was. 749 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: So um, I feel like that's pretty understandable from the 750 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: outsider if you're looking in, um, while I was in 751 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: the situation I was in, Kyler did a nice job 752 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: of explaining the process there and where his focus is, 753 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: and you can kind of definitely, uh feel the love 754 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: for football come out when he's talking about both of 755 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: those sports. Now, Lincoln Riley somebody who has unique insight 756 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: on what took place during this process and what went 757 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: into the decision for Kyler Murray. You go back to 758 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 1: this point last year and Kyler Murray was a baseball 759 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: player who was gonna get football a one year shot. 760 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: At what point during this season did you realize he 761 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: was gonna have a tough decision to make about the NFL. Well, 762 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: I thought even before the season that if he played 763 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: the way we thought he could, that it potentially could 764 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: could be you know, could be a decision. I remember 765 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: about about the mid season, after we played a few 766 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: games not seen him live. It was the bye week. 767 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: He came in and I we talked a little bit 768 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: about it, and I just said, hey, you're you keep 769 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: playing like this, You're you realize you are gonna have 770 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: a decision to make and uh so, just just keep 771 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. And he obviously even went and 772 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: played even better the second half of the season. But 773 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm proud how he handled it. I mean, there's never 774 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: been anybody in any sport that's had to deal with 775 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: what he's had to deal with and the different offers 776 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: on the table and all the scrutiny, and he's just, uh, 777 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: he's handled it all so well and just just with 778 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: a very mature manner. It's interesting to hear Lincoln Riley 779 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: talk about Calin Murray and that decision when it comes 780 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: to playing both sports. But Lincoln Riley Steel had the 781 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: decision to make when it came to determining quarterbacks, and 782 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: he had Baker Mayfield, he had Calan Murray kind of 783 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: sitting in the on deck circle, two guys who they 784 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: eventually thought would maybe compete for the starting job. But 785 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: to have back to back Heisman Trophy winners, I think 786 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: he offers a unique insight and perspective of how to 787 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: look at both of these guys. It can be a 788 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry or running 789 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: late to find your stuff at a railway crossing waiting 790 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: for a train, and if the signals are going and 791 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: the trains not even there yet, you can feel a 792 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: bit tempted to try and sneak across the tracks. Well, 793 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: don't ever, Trains are often going a lot faster than 794 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: you expect them to be, and they can't stop. Even 795 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: if the engineer hits the brakes right away. It can 796 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: take a train over a mile to stop. By that time, 797 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: what used to be your car is just a crunched 798 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: hunk of metal, and what used to be you, well, 799 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: better not think about that. The point is you can't 800 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,439 Speaker 1: know how quickly the train will arrive. The train can't 801 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: stop even if it sees you. The result is disaster. 802 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: If the signals are on, the train is on the way, 803 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: and you just need to remember one thing, stop, Trains 804 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: can't all right, buck Well, I feel like we've made 805 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: it cleanly through the first two sections of this podcast, 806 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 1: first focusing on Kyler Murray as a winner check that box. 807 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: Second focusing on Kyler Murray as a dual sport athlete, 808 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 1: somebody potentially a top ten pick in two major sports. 809 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: And now we're gonna transition and talk about the connection 810 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield Heisman Trophy 811 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: winner first overall pick, Kyler Murray, Heisman Trophy winner, potential 812 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: first overall pick. That is a unique situation and interesting dynamic, 813 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: and that will be our focus for the remainder of 814 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: the show. DJ. On that topic, we caught up with 815 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: Big Twil defensive Laeman of the Year Texas Dan Charles, 816 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: a min who at the Senior Bowl, and asked him 817 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: about both Kyla Murray and the number one pick in 818 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen draft, Baker Mayfield. Once you put your 819 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 1: scouting hat on, here, joined two scouts here and let's 820 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: do some scouting. I want to talk about maybe the 821 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: most electric player in college football, Kyler Murray. You got 822 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: a chance to see him twice, so I want a 823 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: little evaluation on him and maybe a comparison which to 824 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: what you saw on Kyler Murray and the guy he 825 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: replaced in Baker Mayfield. So yeah, Kyla, like I mean, 826 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: best player I've ever played against in my life, hand uh, 827 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: dynamic with running the ball, and and also people might 828 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: not give him as much credit, but he can throw 829 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: that thing just because you can run man um. So yeah, 830 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: but comparing him to Baker, Baker just did the bigger 831 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: than run the ball like he did. Baker is elusive. Now, 832 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 1: so you go back and watch our game. I mean, 833 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: Baker dug some sacks me one unfortunately, where I could 834 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: have two seconds, just got one. But he's elusive to 835 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: but not to the love of College um throwing. I 836 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: think they're right there with each other. They're both very accurate, 837 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: um trust that. They both trust their arms like crazy. 838 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: But I think College is better just because he can 839 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: run the thing. Can you feel his speed? Like a 840 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: lot of times you have defensive players and they know 841 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: how fast is them? Like somebody said, can you can 842 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: you feel it? You feel his speed when you're on 843 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah. So, Um. The first time we played 844 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: them is an option play, and I had My job 845 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: was to slow play him so he would pitch it 846 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: and give time for everybody. Raley to the pitch man, 847 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: and so he would run the option. He's going the 848 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 1: sidelines kind of pretty close but not not too close, 849 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: and I'm playing them, and he seemed that you're gonna 850 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: keep it, but he was playing so slow, so he 851 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: was like while he was sleeping used to and then 852 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: going do like like lightning went by me bro And 853 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: I looked back to my my dB, I'm like, yo, 854 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: did you just see this man like he was literally 855 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: right there and then hit the sidelines so fast. But 856 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: and then he's so good at like tiptoeing and getting 857 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: a little extra rs and extending the ball because you know, 858 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: Heike carries the ball. And I was like, dude, we're 859 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 1: going to against somebody's real deal, like Mike Vickers. That's nice. 860 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's an awesome quote. I want 861 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 1: to know even more about it. Because you faced him twice. 862 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: How much did he change in the second game from 863 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: the first game? Didn't run as much. The second game 864 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: was a lot more of h They're trying to pound 865 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: the rock and we did. We did a decent job 866 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: pusus of the run. But they were trying to throw 867 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,479 Speaker 1: that ball and move the pocket a little bit there. 868 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: There are a lot more balanced than they were the 869 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 1: first game. O Black is great to hear from Charleston 870 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: Mannerhe look somebody had a little bit of success at 871 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: least splitting his games with Kyler Murray and had a 872 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: tough lost there against Baker Mayfield. But I thought the 873 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: quote there that was so interesting, as he said, Kyler 874 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: Murray the best football player he's ever played against. Buck, 875 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: You had a chance to catch up with my thirtieth 876 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: rank prospect in this year's draft, Oklahoma All American offensive 877 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: tackle Cody Ford. You got a chance to visit with 878 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: him there at the combine and UH and ask him 879 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: about the Oklahoma quarterbacks. What is it like to play 880 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: with the Heisman Trophy winner? It's exciting, you know, not 881 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: playing with just one, but back to back Heisman winners. UM. 882 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: I don't think many people who get to say that. UM. 883 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: Very honored to play with both of those guys, But 884 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: playing with Kyler is different. He's a great athlete, a 885 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: great leader, UM, and a great teammate to have on 886 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: your team, you know, and thinking about that because it 887 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: is a unique contrast to be able to have Cala 888 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: Murray the Baker Mayfield who was first overall. Having to 889 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: protect for both of those guys. What are some of 890 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: the similarities and differences between the way they play? Uh. 891 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: Some of the similarities would be they both like to 892 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: take control of the situations, UM when it's need be UH. 893 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: Another similarity is if we mess up as a line, 894 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,399 Speaker 1: they find a way to make us look good, UH 895 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: getting out of the pocket. UM. One difference I would 896 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: say was Kyler is not trash talker as much as Baker, 897 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: but that's the only difference I can come up with. Yeah, 898 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting what Cody Ford was able to 899 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 1: say about both of those guys. Uh, Cody Ford obviously 900 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: knows those guys well, have being blocked for them. I 901 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: thought his take on their leadership styles and just the 902 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: differences between Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray were unique. But 903 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the challenges that teams will 904 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: have going forward in the National Football League when you 905 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: look at the way that these two guys played the 906 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: game in their respective manners. We got a chance to 907 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: talk to somebody who lined up in front of Kyler Murray. 908 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk to somebody who lined up out wide, Marquis Brown. 909 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: He had a chance and I only play with Kyler Murray, 910 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: but obviously spent some time there with Baker may Go 911 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: as well. If I was just gonna ask you the 912 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 1: difference playing for Baker Mayfield and with Baker Mayfield and 913 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: then playing with Kyler Murray, I know you've been asked 914 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: us before, but what's the difference between the two? I 915 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: say the difference is just their their personalities, you know, 916 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: on the field. They both love to win. So the 917 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 1: differences is, you know, Kyler is more you know, just him. 918 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: He's reserved, you know, he's out there business life and 919 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: Baker is is you know, loud, He's gonna get everybody gone. 920 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: And it's just that they're just different personalities. Yeah, and 921 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: having to play with those guys back to back, and 922 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,360 Speaker 1: you talked about Kyla Murray being a little more business 923 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: like where Baker was a little more flamboyant and boristerous. 924 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: How long did it take you guys to adjust to 925 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,720 Speaker 1: Kyla Murray's leadership style. Um, I mean we knew Kyler, 926 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: so we knew there were two different guys. You know. 927 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: Of course at first it was like, you know, we 928 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: had to raise the energy levels in different ways because 929 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: ba it wasn't there. But that's something we quickly adjusted 930 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: to because how close we are at ou How much 931 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: fun was it though, knowing that with either one of 932 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,439 Speaker 1: these guys at quarterback as fast as you are, man, 933 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: it's it's tough to overrun them. I mean, they get 934 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: the ball up and they get it out, and you 935 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,280 Speaker 1: guys attacked vertically with both those quarterbacks with you getting 936 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: over the top. Yeah, man, It's just a blessing, you know. 937 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: And that's during the recruitment process. You know, Kyler was 938 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: my host, so it was like I knew I was 939 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna have, you know, some good quarterbacks and that was 940 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: the reason I came in here, you know. And and 941 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: and having that relationship because Kyla was your host. Um 942 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: did the offense change much? I knew you guys were 943 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: like tight, but you had a close relationship with Baker 944 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: Mayfield as well. How much did the offense change when 945 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: Kyler took over for Baker Mayfield? Uh? You know, it 946 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: changed a lot, you know, because Kyler can do a 947 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: lot with his legs, so you know, it came or 948 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: dynamic teams got to account for more people. So it's 949 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 1: just it's just changed a lot. And you know, he 950 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: opened up a lot of things for other people, for 951 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: those who don't know, you know, about this Oklahoma offense. Um, 952 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: I know, Baker made a very smooth transition to the NFL, 953 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: and I think some people thought, oh, this is kind 954 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 1: of that old air raid offense. But man, but what 955 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 1: they ask of you guys at the collegiate level really 956 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: helped him get prepared to play right away and be 957 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: successful at the NFL level. What is it about this 958 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: Oklahoma offense that that works so well? It gets you 959 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: guys ready for the next level. I think it's the 960 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: standard that is set here. You know, if you don't 961 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,959 Speaker 1: play at that standard, you won't play here. That goes 962 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: for blocking from you know, just doing your assignment is 963 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: to play, you know, are every play. You know, I 964 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: think our offense translates just because you know, we're not 965 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: just a past team. You know, we have like three 966 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: thou Yard Russians or something other. So it's just we 967 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: feed off each other. You know, we're balanced. You know. 968 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: I love to hear Hollywood. When I was at the 969 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: Pro day there, got a chance to chat you a 970 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: little bit, and then I chat with Kyler on the 971 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 1: air and got a chance to ask him, you guys 972 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: have been asking before. Put put your hand on the ground. 973 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: You're healthy. Your foot is totally healthy. We go ahead 974 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: and let you guys run for it. Who wins? Um? 975 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: So I'm I gonna tell you what Kyler said, but 976 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: I want to get your honest opinion. Who hits that 977 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: tape first? If you and Kyler we're doing square off 978 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: in a race, I say me, you know I've been 979 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: and with me. I grew up racing all the time, 980 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: so there isn't nothing to get out there and race. 981 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: If I lose, I lose. You know, he's been prolonged enough. 982 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 1: It's too long. So we get raise. How close would 983 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: the race b if you win? How close it's a 984 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: few feet, it's kind of right on your heels? How 985 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 1: close is the race between you and Calamari when y'all 986 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,879 Speaker 1: hit the tape and at close? All right? Yeah, kind 987 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: of got a good take off. Yeah, it's gonna be 988 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: close for ship. But anything past the forty I'm leaving 989 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 1: you start striding out, it's over. I love it, all right, Buck. 990 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: I had to ask him the question. I mean, there's 991 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: that's an age old question, right, who's faster you or 992 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: your buddy? I had no choice. I had to ask 993 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: that one. I mean, you had to ask him. I 994 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: would love to see that race play out, because, uh, 995 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: there's a perception that Kyler Murray maybe quicker than fast 996 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: and we know that Hollywood just has to gas and 997 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: so to see them in a forty yard dash, I 998 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: might pay it. I might pay a little buck. I 999 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 1: might throw some money down to go. Being a tendance 1000 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, I think I would go Hollywood on 1001 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: that one close race. Kyler's fast, but I'm gonna take Hollywood, 1002 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: uh to win that race. Back to the Coach's round table, 1003 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: Buck talking with Mike Dundee Dana Holgerson about Kyler Murray 1004 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: filling the shoes of the number one overall pick in 1005 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I haven't seen him obviously at your rival school. 1006 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: You've seen him. The guy before him was the first 1007 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: pick in the draft last year. How would you compare 1008 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 1: the two, Well, they're very similar with their ability to 1009 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 1: have success. But Baker Mayfield was so good at moving around, 1010 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: in finding a receiver downfield and just being deadly accurate 1011 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: and being in a position that you thought you had 1012 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: him multiple times and he could find a way to 1013 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: throw it downfield and make a play. Murray being the 1014 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,680 Speaker 1: opposite somewhat, and the fact that you thought you had 1015 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: him and you couldn't get your hands on him, and 1016 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 1: we played him. I tell the story. We played him, 1017 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: I think the eighth or ninth game this year, we 1018 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: played Oklahoma, and going into the game, um, he had 1019 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: only been tackled seven times, not sacked, tackled really like 1020 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: tackled to the ground seven times in in eight games 1021 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: or so. So that's the type of player he was. But, um, 1022 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: you know, we thought Baker was fantastic and then kind 1023 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: of comes along behind him and made a lot of 1024 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: good plays. So, um, they've they've they've been fortunate down 1025 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: there with transfers. So you know this, you know this 1026 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: player very well. I haven't been around that that scene. 1027 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: What's your take on? Yeah, I recommended, uh to the 1028 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: Browns people that they should probably take Baker and Mayfield 1029 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: as the number one pick because he was the best 1030 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 1: that I'd ever seen and their offense was the best 1031 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. When I was at West Virginia to 1032 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: Peton against these guys, I thought we could make a 1033 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: run at him last year. Uh. I didn't think that 1034 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: there was any way they could duplicate what they did 1035 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,479 Speaker 1: in two thousand and in seventeen. Well, they were better, 1036 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray was better. I've never 1037 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: seen anything like it. We played in Morgantown, ended up 1038 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: fifty nine and fifty six, and I don't think we 1039 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: tackled them all day. And we didn't add to that stat. 1040 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 1: I know that because he scored quite quite a bit um. 1041 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: You know, I just said there's no way they could 1042 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 1: have duplicated, and they did. So I take the job 1043 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: at the University of Houston and we opened up with 1044 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and they got another one of these transfer quarterbacks. Still, 1045 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: I can't I can't escape these guys right now because 1046 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: Jayalen so I ain't saying anything about it this year now, 1047 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 1: but because he's he hasn't. He doesn't lose too many 1048 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: games in Oklahoma, doesn't lose too many games. So Lincoln 1049 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: does a great job with those guys, and they're they're 1050 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be everybody's good next year. Unique insight for 1051 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: both coaches, even though they combined to go oh and 1052 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: eight against Baker Mayfield and Caliburia the past four years, 1053 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: but they were alone. A lot of teams took losses 1054 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: at that One of the guys who was uh in 1055 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: attendance for a bunch of those games. How about Joe Klatt? 1056 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: See what else he had to say? All right, Joel, 1057 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: first question for you on on Kyler Murray before we 1058 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,960 Speaker 1: go to the Heisman Trophy year this year, I want 1059 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: to go back to when he wasn't playing there at Oklahoma. 1060 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: I know you're around that team, what do you call 1061 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of their games each and every year. But 1062 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: what was it like, you know, what were they saying 1063 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: about him kind of behind the scenes as he was 1064 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: waiting his turn behind Baker Mayfield. Yeah, so I want 1065 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 1: to go back to the year he had to sit out. 1066 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 1: So so when he just gets there and I went 1067 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 1: in and they were actually in the midst of building 1068 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: their their new facility that we've all been in now, 1069 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: So they were in like these temporary uh facility in 1070 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 1: the Switzer building across the street, and it was all 1071 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: kind of like dark, and you know, I mean, it's 1072 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 1: just temporary. So when I go in and we were 1073 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: meeting with Lincoln and and Coach Stoops and and the 1074 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: whole gamut. We're going to talk to Baker and this 1075 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,319 Speaker 1: is his second year starting. And when we go in 1076 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: and I see Kyler there, and I had not met him, 1077 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: but obviously known a lot about him. So I went 1078 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: over and chatted with him, and then I and this 1079 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,640 Speaker 1: is when Lincoln was just the coordinator, and I was like, 1080 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: how's he doing? And he looks at me and he 1081 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: was like, Baker's got his work cut out for him 1082 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,720 Speaker 1: next year. So when Kyler's eligible then to play. It's 1083 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: a competition. He's like, it's a competition. Now, what ends 1084 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: up happening is that year is when Baker kind of 1085 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,720 Speaker 1: goes bank through the roof. Um. They ended up um Um. 1086 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 1: He was a Heisman finalist. He kind of grabs hold 1087 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: of not only the job but the team. Right. That 1088 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 1: was Baker's whole thing, is that he was kind of 1089 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,720 Speaker 1: a leader of leaders, and and so it never materialized 1090 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: the competition, But I always go back to that moment 1091 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: because Lincoln knew at that point and Bob knew at 1092 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: that point. He was like, they knew how special Kyler was, 1093 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: and they thought that he was going to regardless of 1094 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 1: what Baker did, um compete for the job. Now it 1095 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: didn't end up happening like that, but I go back 1096 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 1: to that moment because they knew how special he was. 1097 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: And and one of the things I remmember vividly about 1098 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 1: Lincoln saying is he throws it way better than everybody 1099 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: would expect him to throw it, because it was just 1100 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: at that point so athletic, so athletic, and he and 1101 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: he said, he's got all the throws, he's gonna be great. 1102 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,919 Speaker 1: And so when he then you know, stayed and backed 1103 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 1: up Baker and then became the starting quarterback. I had 1104 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: pretty high expectations for him, and they did as well. 1105 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: Last story I'll tell you about the time before he 1106 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 1: starts and before his Heisman year. I'm at Baker's pro 1107 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: day and Baker threw great. Uh, he's got the headband on, 1108 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's Baker, all of that different things stuff 1109 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: and and I remember and at the time, now I've 1110 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: had I've developed a good relationship with him because I've 1111 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: covered them so many times. And so Kyler was over 1112 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: on the sideline and I was like, all right, what 1113 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: tell me about next year, because I'm there obviously more 1114 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 1: for next year than just the draft. And he looks 1115 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: at me and he was like, oh, he could be 1116 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 1: better than me. And I was like what. And I 1117 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,799 Speaker 1: was like, you don't normally say things like that, and 1118 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: he was like, no, no, he's he's he's more gifted. 1119 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: He was like, I've had a great career, but he's 1120 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: more gifted than I am. And so those are the 1121 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: two things. And so that's that's what I was expecting 1122 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: going into this season. So I don't think I was 1123 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: all that shocked that he had a great year. So 1124 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,879 Speaker 1: that's unique in terms of hearing Baker kind of give 1125 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: someone praise because he doesn't release. That's not really I 1126 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 1: was surprised. So so now you get an opportunity because 1127 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: you uniquely you're up to in the press box able 1128 00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: to watch both of those guys play. And so how 1129 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: do you compare and contrasted too when you saw them 1130 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma? Um, that's a great question. I I immediately 1131 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: saw a difference and in the threat of what Kyler 1132 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: was providing as a runner, and it's and it wasn't. 1133 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,399 Speaker 1: So the difference came in the style of defense they 1134 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: were facing. You know, everyone was concerned about Baker, but 1135 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: they were concerned about him as a distributor and his 1136 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,280 Speaker 1: ability to read the r P O down the field 1137 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,280 Speaker 1: and and hurt them in the middle of the field 1138 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: with his arm. And he was so good as you 1139 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 1: guys know, regardless of platform and just flipping that ball 1140 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 1: out to you know, whether it was fullbacks or the 1141 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,880 Speaker 1: tight ends like Mark Andrews, or then he would wind 1142 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: up and deliver it outside the numbers. And so now 1143 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the defenses had to make a choice, 1144 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: and now was the first thing I noticed because everyone 1145 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: had defended Oklahoma, so similarly when Baker was a quarterback, 1146 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, they had to account 1147 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: for this guy that if and when he wanted to 1148 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: pull it down, it wasn't just oh man, he's gonna 1149 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: move the chains. It's like, oh my God, get him 1150 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: on the ground, please, you know, because he could take 1151 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: at the distance. Um, so it was a little bit different. 1152 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: And I think that those early games. I got him 1153 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: at F A U, I got him against U C. 1154 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: L A. And what I saw was a guy that 1155 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,720 Speaker 1: that was out there and he was lethal and taking 1156 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: advantage of defenses that were built to stop him. And 1157 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 1: he was going down the old to Hollywood Brown and 1158 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: and and he showcased what I was talking about earlier, 1159 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 1: which was his ability to throw the football. And I 1160 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: think people were a bit surprised early early in the 1161 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: year at his effectiveness down the field, in particular to 1162 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,439 Speaker 1: the guy like Hollywood Brown or even Seedee lamb Whage 1163 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: not in this draft but will be in the future 1164 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 1: and probably be one of the top two or three 1165 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers that we're talking about in the coming years. 1166 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 1: I thought he was more aggressive than Baker. Let me 1167 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: talk about going down the field and just looking at 1168 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: their styles and how they played. I thought, there's sometimes 1169 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: when I wish Kyler Murray would take a little check down, 1170 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: like you've got some you've got some little bites there, 1171 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: you have to eat the whole sandwich in one bite. 1172 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 1: I thought Baker would maybe a little more prone to say, Hey, 1173 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: that's what they're giving me, I'm gonna take it. I 1174 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: just felt like Kyler was always always reading deep to 1175 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: short and always trying to take shots. It's a great point. 1176 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is born out of 1177 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 1: the urgency of sitting for two years and knowing I 1178 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: got I got only twelve guaranteed bites at this sandwich, 1179 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, like I I gotta get going, Whereas the 1180 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: calmness of playing for three years for Baker, you know, 1181 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 1: understanding it's like, hey, you know. And so I think 1182 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 1: that that was more experience, because late in the year, 1183 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 1: I thought Kyler did a better job of that, to 1184 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 1: be honest with you, even against Alabama when they really 1185 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: needed it, I didn't feel like he was raring back 1186 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: looking for home runs all the time. I could, you know. 1187 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: I think early on in that game, he was, and 1188 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: I thought he settled down and then let's not get 1189 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: into that's a whole Yeah, trust me, get your defense 1190 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: on the field day seven days. Do you know? Hey, 1191 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: do you know defense? Let's put him out there as 1192 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: Alabama only the second best offensive college, Go get him. 1193 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: Come on, Lincoln. Well, I really appreciate the insight there 1194 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 1: from our buddy Joel. It's uh, it's unique for somebody 1195 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 1: to be in attendance at so many of those games, 1196 00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: calling those games, not only being there on game day, 1197 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: but doing all that prep work, studying the game tape 1198 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: like Joel does to get ready for those Oklahoma games. 1199 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,760 Speaker 1: So we do appreciate his contributions. Now, the man probably 1200 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: most responsible for where these two young men are right 1201 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,479 Speaker 1: now is their head coach. When you look at Lincoln Riley, 1202 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: the job he did developing Baker Mayfield, the job he 1203 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: did of launching Kyler Murray this season into a Heisman 1204 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: Trophy win as well as potentially being the first overall pick, 1205 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,919 Speaker 1: it was great to catch up with him and get 1206 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: his perspective on these two passers. Alright, coach, let's start 1207 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: with the simple stuff. I mean, you you've had the 1208 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,919 Speaker 1: second straight year you've got potential first round pick, first 1209 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: overall pick in this event, and at your pro day 1210 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 1: as a coach, how proud of you of just what 1211 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: kind of Murbery has done so far. They're really proud 1212 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: just from where he started, Uh, you know, coming in here, 1213 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: having to sit a year, and then being Baker's backup 1214 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: for a year, and then with with all the outside 1215 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: pressure on this kid from you know, all he's had 1216 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,840 Speaker 1: on him from his from his high school career, all 1217 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: the baseball. You know, just so much has been made 1218 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: of it, and he's handled it all so well. And 1219 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that he got the chance to to 1220 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: make the decision. He certainly made that decision to go 1221 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: full forward the football, and uh, he's somebody's gonna love 1222 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: coaching him at the next level. Coach, I want to 1223 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: go back to that time when Baker, when Baker moves on, 1224 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: Baker goes to the Browns, and now you're gonna give 1225 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: the keys to Kyler with this offense. What what was 1226 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,479 Speaker 1: said in that eating and did you see any change 1227 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: in Kyler from kind of sitting in the in the 1228 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 1: passenger seat and now taking over there in the driver's seat. 1229 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: The great thing about Kyler was even when he wasn't 1230 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: the starter, he was pretty aggressive. I mean that's just 1231 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: his nature, and he was always competing with Baker. I 1232 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,040 Speaker 1: think it made those two guys better throughout their time 1233 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: together here. But he certainly took the reins pretty quickly here. 1234 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 1: He was very natural and comfortable in that leadership spot. 1235 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: Um Really, I think the team really took on his personality, 1236 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: especially his competitiveness, and he he's one of those guys 1237 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: he set such a high standard for everybody around him, 1238 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: and he sets it for himself first and then expects 1239 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: them to all meet it. And us I made our 1240 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: team better and he was a certainly a tremendous leader 1241 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: for us. Baker had that smooth transition last year. Coach 1242 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,200 Speaker 1: coming out of this system. What what is it about 1243 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: this offense that you've built that makes that transition a 1244 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 1: little easier for these guys going to the next level? 1245 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 1: Well puts it puts a lot on them mentally. I mean, 1246 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: it's it's like operating out of a huddle. It's just 1247 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 1: we do it in no huddle. They communicate everything they do. 1248 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: They do protections, every kind of throw scheme, run scheme, 1249 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 1: play actions that you could imagine, you know, we challenge 1250 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: these guys that do it, and they've done it well. 1251 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: So I think they get to those situations and and 1252 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: I think they're they're feeling comfortable. They they've been able 1253 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,919 Speaker 1: to do these things before, they've had success, and they've 1254 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,320 Speaker 1: they've translated. Well. Last thing for me, Joe might get 1255 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: one more in here just selfishly in eracing practice. Hollywood 1256 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: and Kyler, how is that gone? Who wins? If it's 1257 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: a hundred, I would say, Hollywood, if it was a forty, 1258 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: you pay good money to watch it. That's a good 1259 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 1: way to put it. Thank you, coach, than DJ. How 1260 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: about that you're Lincoln Riley. In two years in as 1261 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: head coach, you have to Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks. Let's 1262 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: go back to Oklahoma where you and Jeffrey Chadilla talked 1263 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 1: with Klin Murray about replacing a legend at o U. 1264 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you were here last year when 1265 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,520 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was going through his pro day um, but 1266 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: clearly he was the first pick in the draft. He's 1267 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 1: had a really good rookie season. Have you reached out 1268 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: to him about how to handle this process and what 1269 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: kind of advice has he given you about going through 1270 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 1: this part of the process. Yeah, since the you know, 1271 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: during the season, we kind of you know, didn't really 1272 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: talk much because he was busy. I was busy. But 1273 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: you know since the Heisman, Um, you know, he talking 1274 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: me through that deal and then that so forth. Um, 1275 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,240 Speaker 1: we've been we've been in contact pretty much a lot. 1276 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: You know. So talk to him last night about Odeltre 1277 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,680 Speaker 1: that texted him. What do you say. I can't go 1278 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: into that, but I say I was a little jealous, 1279 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,919 Speaker 1: but uh, now he's he's a he's a great guy. 1280 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 1: That's my boy. So it's it's great having in my corner. 1281 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: You don't have to say it. I know you're not 1282 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: gonna say it, but is there a team you have 1283 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: in mind where you you're looking at it saying that's 1284 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: where I want to go, or you open to wherever? Uh? 1285 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not one of those guys that's like 1286 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: I want to go here, I want to go there. 1287 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I'm I'm grateful to be you know 1288 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: in this position. Uh, wherever I go. You know, this 1289 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 1: has always been a dream. I want to play in 1290 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. So, um, obviously I would love to go 1291 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, Number one in the draft. Um, but if not, 1292 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 1: you know it is what it is? All right? Last question, 1293 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 1: then we'll let you run here. I ask your your 1294 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: head coach this question because I'm curious that two fastest 1295 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: players I saw on tape this year were you and 1296 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,040 Speaker 1: your teammate in Hollywood. So if I, if we, you 1297 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna run. He's got the foot when he's healthy, 1298 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: when you're healthy, maybe it's like, remember, like Rocky and Apollo, 1299 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: nobody's in the gym, but you guys race that forty 1300 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 1: who wins? I got him to day, definitely right, But 1301 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: I'm on the record saying that fort yards I get him. 1302 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 1: All right? There you go past forty yards, he got it. 1303 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really care about that. Well, Buck, 1304 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's it. In terms of the interviews for 1305 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: this episode, man, it's uh. It's great to look at 1306 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: these three different aspects of Kyler Murray. He's a unique player, 1307 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: it's a unique situation, and it's gonna be fun to 1308 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: watch him at the next level. But it begs the question. 1309 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 1: You know, we've heard from everybody else. People want to 1310 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: know what we think here. I'll live you give you 1311 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: the floor here, Kyler Murray. How do you see him 1312 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: fitting in as a potential number one overall pick? Is 1313 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 1: that the right spot form? And how's he gonna do? 1314 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a fantastic player the next level. 1315 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,439 Speaker 1: He's unique because he's a little different. He doesn't fit 1316 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: the normal prototypes when it comes to his physical dimensions 1317 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 1: or even his style of play. However, he can play 1318 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: in a traditional offense because he is a polished pocket passer. 1319 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: He has unique trace when it comes to his arm talent, 1320 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: and then he gives you the extra which is his 1321 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: running ability. I would expect Cayler Murray to do what 1322 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 1: he has always done. In high school, he was a 1323 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,760 Speaker 1: dominant player and a winner. In college, he was a 1324 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: dominant player and a winner. I don't think it changes 1325 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: when he gets to the pros. Sure, you have to 1326 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: make some some changes, a little bit some tweaks to 1327 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 1: your offense to make sure that you fully take advantage 1328 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: of all the things that he brings to the table. 1329 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: But I expect if he goes to the right situation, 1330 01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: he's going to win. With the Arizona Cardinals, you know 1331 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and he like being able to kind of 1332 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 1: work together. I think that's a unique challenge just because 1333 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals may not have a lot around him. But 1334 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is a terrific quarterback developer. He has a 1335 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 1: track record of having success with quarterbacks. It'll be interesting 1336 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 1: to see how he plays out. But Cala Murray certainly 1337 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 1: is worthy of consideration at number one because I think 1338 01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: he's a top ten player. It's just a matter of 1339 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 1: ski team fit with the player. I think he should 1340 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: have success regardless. Well, I look at it and I say, 1341 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: this is a This is a marvelous athlete with a 1342 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: huge arm who's got a lot of twitch, and that 1343 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: to me is an underrated aspect of positions. One of 1344 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: the reasons why last year look at guys like Sam 1345 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: Donald uh and Baker Mayfield. Things you liked about him. 1346 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: Everything was sudden. You know, not have to be the 1347 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,000 Speaker 1: best athlete in world, but everything is just sudden and quick. 1348 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: See things quickly, quick release, quick feet. There's just a 1349 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: suddenness about him. And I see that with Kyler Murray, 1350 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 1: and those are things I really really like. He can 1351 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: make things happen uh quickly. Now, two challenges he's gonna 1352 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: face at the next level Number one is something that's 1353 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 1: been talked about a lot. It's just durability. Um, he's 1354 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 1: not the biggest guy in the world. He's two little 1355 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,760 Speaker 1: or two un pounds. Um, he's gonna take some shots, 1356 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 1: canny continue to get back up off the field after 1357 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 1: taking those hits. He's done a really good job of 1358 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: protecting himself, sliding, get out of bounds, giving up. You'll 1359 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: even see him roll his shoulder turn away from contact 1360 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 1: inside the pocket. But still, durability was probably at the 1361 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 1: top of the of my concerns, and then the unknown 1362 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 1: for me, Uh is playing in chaos. When you look 1363 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 1: at him, you go back to high school. He played 1364 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: with the tremendously talented high school team. They went forty 1365 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: three and o. As we've talked about here, he had 1366 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: better players on his side of the field every time 1367 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,240 Speaker 1: he got on the field at Oklahoma, almost the exact same, 1368 01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: you could argue until they got um into the playoffs. 1369 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: Every game they took took the field, he had better players. 1370 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Have four draft picks along that offensive line a fifth 1371 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: next year, so his entire offensive line NFL players did 1372 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: not have to function in the chaos, which with that 1373 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals group, But he's gonna fight himself in some 1374 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: of that chaos. How does he play? How does he 1375 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 1: function in that environment? To me, that's a little bit 1376 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: of an unknown. It isn't unknown, And I think you 1377 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:46,280 Speaker 1: bring up valid concerns because he has always been the favorite, 1378 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 1: the heavyweight. Uh He's never necessarily been the underdog when 1379 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 1: it comes to who he has with him, and so 1380 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 1: how does he handle that? How does he handle losing games? 1381 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Because he's never really been exposed to a lot of losses. 1382 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 1: And so either you're a guy who be because you 1383 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: hate losing so much that you find a way to 1384 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: will yourself and your team to victories, or it can 1385 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: kind of paralyze you a little bit because you never 1386 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: really had to deal with that kind of adversity. There 1387 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 1: are some questions that he would have to answer along 1388 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: his journey, but I'm certainly willing to bank on his 1389 01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,200 Speaker 1: ability to answer the bill and come out of it 1390 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 1: on the other side, and I end up with him 1391 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: as the as a top quarterback in this year's draft class, 1392 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 1: it does look like it will be the Arizona Cardinals. 1393 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,200 Speaker 1: If not the Arizona Cardinals, I think you start to 1394 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: look at the Raiders at pick number four, potentially a 1395 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: team like the Washington Redskins or Miami Dolphins. Uh, climbing 1396 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 1: up and get ahead of the Raiders to pick him. 1397 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 1: I can't see any scenario where he falls out of 1398 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: the top five, can you, Buck? No, I can't. I 1399 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 1: think he's just a special player, a unique talent. He's 1400 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: one that we've kind of been championing for a while, 1401 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 1: and I think the play matches up where he's going 1402 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: to be selected because I think he has an opportunity 1403 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: to be a superstar in this league. All right, Well, 1404 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. That's our three 1405 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,720 Speaker 1: sixty on Kyle or Murray. Hopefully you've enjoyed it. 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