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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, hope you're doing well. On this Thursday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: we are officially one week away from the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five NFL Draft. Fired up because a week from today

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Speaker 2: we will know who the heck the Buffalo Bills are

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Speaker 2: taking at number thirty if they decide to stay there.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: I'm Adie and we've got NFL CBS Sports Draft analyst

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Speaker 2: joining us today, Chris Trapasso. Thanks for being in.

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Speaker 4: This is great.

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Speaker 5: This is the most alive that I feel the entire year,

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Speaker 5: maybe along with the start of the actual football season

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Speaker 5: in September. It's not the off season for me. And

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Speaker 5: you're right, we've been talking about this. I love talking

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Speaker 5: about this, but when the draft is finally here and

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Speaker 5: we start to see the picks come in, it's so

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Speaker 5: satisfying because there's no more speculation.

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Speaker 2: When we get a week out. Are you to the

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Speaker 2: point we love talking about it? And I totally agree,

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Speaker 2: But at this point, are you like, all right, let's

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Speaker 2: just get the show on the road.

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Speaker 3: We're ready.

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Speaker 5: I would say normally yes, but like I was telling

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Speaker 5: you when we walked in the studio today that this

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Speaker 5: is one of the earlier draft dates that we've had

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Speaker 5: April twenty fourth. There was the one year where it

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Speaker 5: was like in the first week of May. It's usually

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Speaker 5: the last weekend in April twenty ninth, thirtieth when it's

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Speaker 5: been those dates. I get to the third and fourth

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Speaker 5: week of April and I'm like, let's get here already,

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Speaker 5: so that we are getting it on April twenty fourth. No,

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is the time of the year that

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Speaker 5: I should be maybe repeating myself every once in a while,

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Speaker 5: but I've done.

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Speaker 4: Looking at my sheet right here, two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 4: three evaluations.

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Speaker 2: My god.

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Speaker 5: So I'm like meditating, and I am ready to talk

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Speaker 5: about these players, give my opinions of who I like,

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Speaker 5: who I don't like, Bill's fits, and then seven days

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Speaker 5: from now we're going to finally get those picks in.

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Speaker 3: So it's like studying for finals, feeling.

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Speaker 2: You read, you write, you take notes, You start to

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Speaker 2: fall in love with some of these guys, and then

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Speaker 2: the draft happens.

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Speaker 3: They go to their teams.

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Speaker 2: Are you somebody who's similar to test taking? Does it

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Speaker 2: go out of your brain as soon as they're drafted?

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Speaker 2: Or is it a couple of years down the road

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Speaker 2: when these guys are making plays, you're like, I remember

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Speaker 2: watching his tape in college, and this is exactly what

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Speaker 2: I thought he would do.

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Speaker 5: More of the latter, and you certainly have the I'm

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Speaker 5: surprised that this player is so good or so bad,

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Speaker 5: because you get a lot wrong being a draft analyst.

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Speaker 5: But a lot of these and even the sixth and

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Speaker 5: seventh rounders, are just in this bottomless pit in my

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Speaker 5: head where I don't use a lot of these evaluations

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Speaker 5: ultimately for the guys who don't get drafted or don't

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Speaker 5: ever make it in the NFL. But it's more of

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Speaker 5: the latter where I tend to retain a lot of

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Speaker 5: these players, and it's helped me with doing a regular

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Speaker 5: NFL analysis during the season, where I remember a lot

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Speaker 5: of these players, their strengths and weaknesses.

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Speaker 4: What is tough, though, is that it's.

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Speaker 5: Hard when I do radio spots or podcasts like the

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Speaker 5: day after or two days after, and it's with a

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Speaker 5: they're expecting me to know who the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 5: sixth round pick was. When I'm trying to synthesize everything

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Speaker 5: to remember when I see, even like a seventh rounder

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does feel good and that happens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, since we're seven days away, I'm gonna hit you

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Speaker 2: some news and notes surrounding the NFL today one week out?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing as a draft analyst in the

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Speaker 5: So a lot of these, a lot of shows, podcasts, interviews,

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Speaker 5: But what I'm doing from a draft analyst perspective behind

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Speaker 4: The Bills picked this player in the seventh round or

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Speaker 5: So that's what I'm doing beyond just my normal writing

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Speaker 5: for CBS Sports leading into it. I'll have my final

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Speaker 4: At the start of Draft week.

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Speaker 5: But it's really doing a lot of these appearances again

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Speaker 2: You said you've watched more than two hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: class as a whole. As you look at the entire class.

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Speaker 2: What are your impressions of this draft class?

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Speaker 5: The quarterback class is not great, and I think in

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Speaker 5: the media is trying to make this quarterback class better

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Speaker 5: you've probably talked a lot about on this show, Stephen

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Speaker 5: This is not a Jamar Chase Jalen Wattle type class

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Speaker 2: Five prospects, I could see Buffalo definitely picking up a

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Speaker 2: What is something that we're underreacting to right now as fans,

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Speaker 5: I think what's not being talked about enough is the

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Speaker 4: And I get it.

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Speaker 5: Most people have a surface level interest in the draft.

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Speaker 5: They pay the most attention to Round one. That's when

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Speaker 5: the ratings are going to be the best. But as

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Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison juniors at the top. I feel the same

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Speaker 5: You're not just playing safety. You are doing a million

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Speaker 5: And I think Cam Lewis I think even though he's

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Speaker 3: That's why I really like a Nick Emon Worry.

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Speaker 2: He's a big safety, but he knows how to play

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Speaker 2: multiple positions. If Buffalo decides to go to safety in

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Speaker 5: I've been surprised that. I mean, there's a few prospects

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Speaker 5: Colston Loveland from Michigan that some to me clear red flags,

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Speaker 5: lot better after the Cats than Colston Loveland. They were

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Speaker 5: And Jaday Barn from Texas, who kind of feels a

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Speaker 5: It's kind of like, hello, there's the numbers that are

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Speaker 5: saying they're good prospects, but maybe not these bona fide

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Speaker 2: Interesting, It'll be definitely we will have our eyes on

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Speaker 2: where Baron decides to go, not decides, because he's not

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Speaker 2: going to decide himself, but whatever team decides, they want

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Speaker 4: As high as five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the teams or tens. It's it's been wild.

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Speaker 2: And then sometimes you see him and Will Johnson flip

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Speaker 2: flop and who's going second after Travis Hunter. We have

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Speaker 2: got a jam packed show for you guys today. We're

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Speaker 2: show of the week. At two o'clock, we're going to

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Speaker 2: us run through some running backs. That's the one position

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Speaker 2: we have yet to talk about with Greg cost Cells.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about some Day two and

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Speaker 2: Day three running backs who could be some good fits

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Speaker 2: the fan mail bag open for you guys, so you

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Speaker 2: can tweet at us ask us any questions you have

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Speaker 2: surrounding the draft or anything else. We've got our expert

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Speaker 2: great to answer some of those questions, and you can

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Speaker 2: call us at eight oh three oh five point fifty,

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Speaker 2: happy to answer any questions that you have remaining a

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Speaker 3: But we want to.

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Speaker 2: Get to some news and notes because some things are

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Speaker 2: happening and I have to say too. At one ten,

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Speaker 5: But he played back to back seasons at full time

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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially at these mirrored positions, Like it's not like

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Speaker 5: We saw it with Miles Jack twenty nineteen draft. So

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Speaker 2: news and notes. So we've talked about this earlier this

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Speaker 2: it as bait. But I think holding three different private

443
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Speaker 2: workouts and going to those places to work out those

444
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks is too much to be smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, and that's where I think maybe ownership is involved

446
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Speaker 5: where what's weird is And I've said this repeatedly during

447
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Speaker 5: the Joe Shane and Brian Dabile era after they moved

448
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Speaker 5: on from Buffalo and got those jobs in New York

449
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Speaker 5: with the Giants. For a GM to go four drafts

450
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Speaker 5: without picking a first round quarterback is like unprecedented.

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Speaker 4: You don't see it.

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Speaker 5: They eventually and it's mostly it happens in year one.

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Speaker 5: If not in year one because you had a veteran

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Speaker 5: he played well. They had Daniel Jones played well, instantly

455
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Speaker 5: won the playoff game. It usually happens in year two.

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Speaker 5: Didn't happen with the Giants, it didn't happen last year.

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Speaker 5: It would be almost a shock if the Giants don't

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Speaker 5: use an early round pick at quarterback, because just look

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Speaker 5: at the history. A new GM, a new head coach

460
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Speaker 5: come in, they eventually want their guy at the game's

461
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Speaker 5: most vital position. They've gone from Daniel Jones to Tommy

462
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Speaker 5: DeVito and now Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston at the

463
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Speaker 5: end of their career. It feels like Joe Shane maybe

464
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Speaker 5: is even thinking himself, I don't want to not be

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Speaker 5: the GM anymore and lose my job and never had

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Speaker 5: picked a first or maybe a second round quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that makes a lot of sense, all right.

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Speaker 2: We said that free agent quarterback Aaron Rodgers was on

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Speaker 2: the Pat McAfee show.

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Speaker 3: There's been a quote that's come out.

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Speaker 2: According to Ian Rappaport, Aaron Rodgers says, quote, I'll set

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Speaker 2: it all straight from the jump. I'm in a different

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Speaker 2: phase of my life. I'm forty one years old, I'm

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Speaker 2: in a serious relationship. I have personal commitments I've made

475
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Speaker 2: and people in my inner circle battling difficult stuff. To

476
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Speaker 2: make a commitment to a team is a big thing.

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Speaker 2: End quote.

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Speaker 4: So, as of now, nothing with Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is not saying anything with the Steelers or

480
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Speaker 2: where he wants to go play football or if he

481
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Speaker 2: wants to continue his NFL career, just saying what's going

482
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Speaker 2: on in his life and why it's been difficult to

483
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Speaker 2: put his name on a different right now.

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Speaker 5: What to me is so weird about the Aaron Rodgers

485
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Speaker 5: situation is that down the stretch last year, if you

486
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Speaker 5: are taking all of the Pat McAfee and everything else

487
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Speaker 5: outside or like away from Aaron Rodgers and just watching

488
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Speaker 5: him on the field, he was not a bad quarterback

489
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Speaker 5: last season.

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Speaker 4: Late no early in the year, it was disappointing.

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Speaker 5: The Jets got off to kind of a slow start,

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Speaker 5: and ironically, that Monday night home loss to the Bills

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Speaker 5: where there was field goals clinking off the goalposts and

494
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Speaker 5: the Bills squeaked out with that victory, that's when the

495
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Speaker 5: wheels kind of fell off.

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Speaker 4: They fired Robert Sala.

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Speaker 5: A lot of things went south when we knew the

498
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Speaker 5: Jets weren't going to make the playoffs. If you look

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Speaker 5: at the statistics and just watch the games, you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: that's not Aaron Rodgers from twenty eleven. But he's still

501
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Speaker 5: a solid player. It feels like if all of the

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Speaker 5: off field media look at me, attention grabbing things weren't

503
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Speaker 5: happening with Aaron Rodgers, he would be a pencil in

504
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Speaker 5: bridge starter right now. If Daniel Jones is on the

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Speaker 5: Colts and Jamis Winston and Russell Wilson are in New

506
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Speaker 5: York with the Giants, Aaron Rodgers is not a worse

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Speaker 5: quarterback than any of those three. It's almost a shame

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Speaker 5: that for such a tremendous quarterback who's a future first

509
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Speaker 5: ballot Hall of Famer. That it's everything that he's done

510
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Speaker 5: attention wise and always trying to stay and blaming other

511
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Speaker 5: people when he should just take ownership as a veteran.

512
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Speaker 5: That is the reason why he's not a quarterback right now,

513
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Speaker 5: not because he just one hundred percent cannot play anymore,

514
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Speaker 5: at least.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion.

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Speaker 2: So another quote says, I told every single one of

517
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Speaker 2: the teams it ain't about the money. I said, I'll

518
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Speaker 2: play for ten million whatever. This is what Aaron Rodgers

519
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Speaker 2: has told Pat McAfee.

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Speaker 3: This quote's coming from Ian Rappaport.

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Speaker 2: I'm open to anything and attached to nothing. Retirement could

522
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Speaker 2: still be a possibility. Focus on personal life. So what

523
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Speaker 2: we've got is a lot of who knows what's going.

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Speaker 5: That's what I think Aaron Rodgers wants, and I think

525
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Speaker 5: what gms and coaches and owners are so miffed about

526
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Speaker 5: that he wants to constantly be the center of attention

527
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Speaker 5: and until things go wrong, and then he's blaming Mike

528
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Speaker 5: Williams for running the wrong route, or he's blaming a coordinator,

529
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Speaker 5: or he's blaming other things, where again you would feel

530
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Speaker 5: like someone that is a shoe in for the Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame that famously was and has spoken to the

532
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Speaker 5: fact that Brett Favre was not a great mentor to him,

533
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Speaker 5: and that he tried to be a good mentor for

534
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Speaker 5: Jordan Love that he would accept that mentor role this

535
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Speaker 5: late in his career, and now he kind of just

536
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Speaker 5: leaves everyone hanging again.

537
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Speaker 4: We don't really know what he ultimately wants to do.

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Speaker 5: That I think has hurt all of that has hurt

539
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Speaker 5: his reputation and his marketability in terms of like, oh,

540
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Speaker 5: you're gonna sign with us for ten million? Will take

541
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Speaker 5: you if we're the Saints or where the Steelers. He's

542
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Speaker 5: still not signed because I think everything off the field,

543
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Speaker 5: which is a shame.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers also said he's not waiting for the Vikings

545
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Speaker 2: to change their minds.

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Speaker 3: We have forgot about that was the part of the

547
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Speaker 3: mix too.

548
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Speaker 2: Or we just holding on and waiting to see what

549
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Speaker 2: happens with the Vikings and if JJ McCarthy is the

550
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Speaker 2: real deal there or if we're gonna decide to go elsewhere.

551
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Speaker 2: But he's saying he could retire also, I could definitely

552
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Speaker 2: see him just holding on and waiting for a quarterback

553
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Speaker 2: to get hurt, or waiting for training camp, or waiting

554
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Speaker 2: for the middle of the season to come about where

555
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Speaker 2: somebody gets hurt and hey, there's Aaron Rodgers and we

556
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Speaker 2: can grab him off the couch. It's been done with

557
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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco before. Aaron Rodgers would be a better quarterback

558
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Speaker 2: to do that with.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I think the Vikings are so interesting, not

561
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Speaker 5: because of how hilarious it would be if he followed

562
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Speaker 5: the exact Brett Fire career path team wise, but the

563
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Speaker 5: Vikings have made so many big moves this offseason that

564
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Speaker 5: they feel and they just won fourteen games, and then

565
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Speaker 5: their quarterback Sam Darnold imploded in the playoffs and played

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Speaker 5: a New York Jets Sam Donald type game that they

567
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Speaker 5: have Justin Jefferson in his prime, TJ Hockins in his back.

568
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Speaker 5: They traded for Jordan Mason, who was leading the league

569
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Speaker 5: in rushing before he got injured, spelling Christian McCaffrey in

570
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Speaker 5: San Francisco. Great defense, a great defensive mind in Brian

571
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Speaker 5: Flores as their defensive coordinator. Again, if Aaron Rodgers didn't

572
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Speaker 5: have all this media distraction and didn't prove to be

573
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Speaker 5: not a great locker room guy. I think the Vikings

574
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Speaker 5: would jump at the opportunity to say, we want you

575
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Speaker 5: on a one year rental. You are a obvious veteran

576
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Speaker 5: starter that we know can hit the ground running in

577
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Speaker 5: this offense, and then give some of your knowledge, impart

578
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Speaker 5: some of that knowledge on a JJ McCarthy because the

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Speaker 5: one thing that I think could really curtail the Vikings

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five season if JJ McCarthy takes time to

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Speaker 5: ultimately be good or is ultimately just doesn't have it

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Speaker 5: because the rest of the team is really good.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of us said the same thing about

585
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Speaker 2: the Sam Donald experiment and what what the heck? If

586
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Speaker 2: this doesn't work out? What are they thinking? And it

587
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 2: worked for them, And I think that says a lot

588
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Speaker 2: about the coaching staff in Minnesota and their ability to

589
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Speaker 2: regardless of who you have at quarterback, you can fit

590
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Speaker 2: something around that quarterback and make it work because you

591
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: do have good pieces on the offense and good pieces

592
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Speaker 2: on the defense. So maybe that's why they're so confident

593
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Speaker 2: in JJ McCarthy working because regardless of if he takes

594
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Speaker 2: time or not, they can fit an offense around being

595
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Speaker 2: with the personnel too. Yeah, some more news surrounding the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Something that's I think is very interesting. You don't see

597
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Speaker 2: this every season. At this point, one week before the draft,

598
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Speaker 2: every single NFL club still owns its first round pick

599
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Speaker 2: that it was assigned to. No trades yet. The twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five selection process marked the first year in the

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Speaker 2: common era that all thirty two teams own their first

602
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Speaker 2: round picks at the start of the.

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Speaker 3: New league year.

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Speaker 2: According to NFL research, it's rare that each club makes

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Speaker 2: it to the draft with their first round selection, and

606
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Speaker 2: if none of these top picks are traded before draft day,

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Speaker 2: it will be the first time since twenty fourteen that

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Speaker 2: no first round selections in the draft were moved between

609
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Speaker 2: the start of the league year and the first night

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Speaker 2: of the draft, according to NFL research, Do we think

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Speaker 2: that stands.

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Speaker 5: What's ironic is that that did happen in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 5: and it ties to the Bills again. That then in

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Speaker 5: twenty fourteen, former GM Doug Wheeley traded up traded at

615
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty or twenty fifteen excuse me pick to pick

616
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Speaker 5: Sammy Watkins. So right when the draft started, like four

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Speaker 5: picks in or five picks.

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Speaker 3: In moving around.

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Speaker 4: They there will still be those trades in the draft.

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Speaker 5: My theory on why it hasn't happened yet, and there

621
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Speaker 5: was rampant rumors about Miles S. Garrett and TJ. Watt

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Speaker 5: and Max Crosby and maybe even stil Michael Parsons. I

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Speaker 5: think it has gotten to the point and obviously with

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Speaker 5: a big trade like that, you probably need ownership to

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Speaker 5: sign off on it.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 5: And obviously these things are all moving kind of at

628
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Speaker 5: a parallel direction. But the difference in paying Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 5: who is the best edge rusher in the NFL in

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Speaker 5: my opinion, forty million dollars a year, and getting a

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Speaker 5: first round pick on a rookie deal cost controlled for

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Speaker 5: five seasons, I think the golf has gotten so big

633
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Speaker 5: there that more GMS and more ownership are like, all right, yes,

634
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Speaker 5: we would love to have Miles Garrett, but we don't

635
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Speaker 5: want to first pay him forty million dollars and then

636
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Speaker 5: lose the ability to have a first round edge rusher

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Speaker 5: who might be good for four years on a very

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Speaker 5: cheap contract, and then we even get year five on

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Speaker 5: the fifth year option where it's expensive but he's still

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Speaker 5: cost controlled relative to where that market will ultimately be.

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Speaker 5: That's my theory as a draft guy as to why

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Speaker 5: teams aren't just throwing first rounders around like they're the

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Speaker 5: La Rams.

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Speaker 4: Of a few years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll see what happens draft Night two if

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Speaker 2: any players get thrown into the mix as a part

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Speaker 2: of a trade or uh, just teams trading around picks

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Speaker 2: in the first round. That's that's what makes the first

649
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Speaker 2: round of the draft and the NFL Draft at large

650
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Speaker 2: just so dang interesting, and this year's draft so interesting.

651
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Speaker 2: As we talked about in the beginning of the show. Sure,

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Speaker 2: pencil in the first two picks, but after that, who

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Speaker 2: the heck knows what's gonna happen. It's gonna be all

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Speaker 2: eyes on our TV watching what all thirty two teams

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Speaker 2: decide to do on Night one.

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Speaker 3: So exciting. I cannot wait. Just seven days away.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break, but when we return, we're

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Speaker 2: getting to your phone calls. Give us a call at

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Speaker 2: eight O three oh five fifty if you have any

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Speaker 2: questions surrounding the NFL Draft or anything more. Also, mock

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Speaker 2: Draft Watch nine point oho or eight point zero. Eight

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Speaker 2: point zero is what it is is coming out tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about it. Some of the names that

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Speaker 2: are being mocked to the Bills in the last couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks. You don't want to miss it. Coming up

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Speaker 2: here on One Bills Live. We're presented by Clyde Health

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Speaker 2: on Buffalo Bills Radio. What's up, everybody, We're back here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live. You're going to go right to

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Speaker 2: the phone lines to a couple of callers who have

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Speaker 2: been hanging on. Let's go to Moran and Richmond. Moran,

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Speaker 2: you're joining the show right now. How are you hi?

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Speaker 6: Good Mattie and Chrissie. You're taking my call.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Question in regards to drafting a potential wide receiver, I

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Speaker 6: know that there are different text of wide receivers in general,

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Speaker 6: like you know, zone beaters or man beaters or possession

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Speaker 6: folks or fols you can take a top off the defense.

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Speaker 6: Is there any type of water receiver that you think

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Speaker 6: our roster is lacking currently? Is there any wide receiver

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Speaker 6: in the draft that can kill that? Boy?

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thanks appreciate it all right, Based on what the Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills have right now, you think about that first, and

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Speaker 2: then you think like Moron said, is there anything that

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Speaker 2: Buffalo is lacking at the wide receiver position? Chris, you

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Speaker 2: talked about the fact that this is a deeper wide

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Speaker 2: receiver class once you get into rounds at four and

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Speaker 2: five day three guys for sure, based on the guys

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Speaker 2: that you have watched, Are there any names that you

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Speaker 2: think would fit in Buffalo based on what we don't have?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll say based on my own evaluation and just

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Speaker 5: the visitors that the Bills have had at wide receiver,

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Speaker 5: they have been the outside vertical threats, and Sean.

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Speaker 4: McDermott and Brandon Bean at the.

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Speaker 5: Combine and then at the owners meetings in South Florida

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Speaker 5: spoke directly to the team's need for speed on the outside.

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Speaker 5: When you're bringing in Isaiah Bond who ran sub four four,

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Speaker 5: Arian Smith from Georgia who has a bunch of drops

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Speaker 5: on film but is electric down the field.

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Speaker 4: Even Tory Horton from.

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Speaker 5: Colorado State, who's more of a possession guy but ran

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Speaker 5: close to four to four at like six foot two,

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Speaker 5: has big time speed.

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Speaker 4: So I think that is the biggest need.

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Speaker 5: Even though they did bring in Josh Palmer, who has

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Speaker 5: been a vertical guy but only ran four or five

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Speaker 5: coming out of Tennessee. I think they want someone that,

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Speaker 5: even as a rookie, if the intricacies and the route

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Speaker 5: running that we talked about with Travis Hunter are not there,

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Speaker 5: just for defensive coordinators to see, Oh, this guy ran

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Speaker 5: four to.

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Speaker 4: Three blank or four to four flat.

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Speaker 5: We need to be aware of him and we need

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Speaker 5: to maybe let a safety drift in that direction to

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Speaker 5: help the underneath and the intermediate levels be more open.

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Speaker 5: I think that is the type. If I had to

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Speaker 5: put a betting odd on it, I would say that

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Speaker 5: is the betting favorite. That it won't be a pure

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Speaker 5: underneath slot receiver. It won't be a bigger body that

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Speaker 5: can't stretch the field vertically on the outside. It's going

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Speaker 5: to be someone that can really run and maybe even

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Speaker 5: tap into more of Josh Allen's arm strength and his

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Speaker 5: ability to not just be the point guard that he

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Speaker 5: was last season, but work the football down the field,

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Speaker 5: to threaten at all three levels of the field when

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Speaker 5: they're playing any type of defense.

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Speaker 2: Definitely something to monitor. The Bills have several wide receivers

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Speaker 2: on this roster right now with a lot of talent,

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Speaker 2: and adding maybe a down the field type of presence

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Speaker 2: could just lift stop the group as a whole. Let's

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Speaker 2: go over to Derek in Maryland. Derek, you're on with

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Speaker 2: us now? How are you doing good?

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Speaker 8: How you guys doing great? I'm actually I was calling

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Speaker 8: because I saw a recently. I saw a sort of

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Speaker 8: crazy trade proposal that I would actually get the bills

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Speaker 8: up to the three spot with the Giants for abdual Carter,

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Speaker 8: and I just kind of wanted to get your take

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Speaker 8: on it because it sounds kind of nuts to me,

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Speaker 8: but I just wanted to see what you thought about it.

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Speaker 8: So the details are, Buffalo receives the number three with

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Speaker 8: the Giants to give up the number to get the

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Speaker 8: number thirty, the fifty six, the one oh nine, the

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Speaker 8: one sixty nine, and then a first and second next year.

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Speaker 8: I think it's crazy, but again, I know that they

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Speaker 8: talk about abdual Carter being a game wrecker, and Brandon

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Speaker 8: Bean said that, you know, game wreckers aren't available at thirty,

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Speaker 8: and I just didn't know, if you know, I wanted

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Speaker 8: to hear what you guys thought about that, because it

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Speaker 8: sounds like it's a lot of picks to give up

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Speaker 8: for one guy. But you know, is it completely out

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Speaker 8: of you know, belief that could happen or something.

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Speaker 4: So no, that's a good question.

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Speaker 5: I think whenever we see any of these possibilities with

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Speaker 5: a week out, we should explore them because crazy things

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Speaker 5: happen every single year in the draft. I think it

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Speaker 5: is pretty unlikely, and I know we are all aware

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Speaker 5: of Brandon Bean's pass where he's unafraid to trade up

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Speaker 5: if the if the right deal is in place or

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Speaker 5: the right player is available, such as seismic trade, though

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Speaker 5: feels unlikely because that's giving up all this draft capital

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Speaker 5: that the Bills have really loaded up with and to

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Speaker 5: go into twenty six. I don't know if they would

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Speaker 5: necessarily do that. However, to tie in what we said

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Speaker 5: about Miles Garrett, the one positive to that would be,

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Speaker 5: all right, you're giving up what a first, second, fourth,

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Speaker 5: and then he said a first in a second next

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Speaker 5: year to get a player in Abdull Carter that is

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Speaker 5: not going to cost you forty million dollars in year one, two, three,

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Speaker 5: or four.

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Speaker 4: So we don't know what the Bills.

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Speaker 5: If the Bills offered anything to the Browns, to the Raiders,

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Speaker 5: to the Cowboys, to the Steelers or TJ. Watt, maybe

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Speaker 5: this whole time, the Bills have been like really trying

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Speaker 5: to get that game wrecking defensive end, and it would

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Speaker 5: have cost multiple first rounders to get a Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they'll ultimately do this trade to move

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Speaker 5: from thirty to three. I don't know if we've seen

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Speaker 5: since the Julio Jones trade a team moved from that

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Speaker 5: far into the from deep in Round one all the

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Speaker 5: way into the top five. But that would be the

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Speaker 5: one sliver of hope if you're really wanting Abdul Carter,

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Speaker 5: is that it wouldn't cost all the draft picks plus

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Speaker 5: a big salary early on. You would have a twenty

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Speaker 5: two year old cost control that is a very top

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Speaker 5: end prospect in Abdul Carter.

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Speaker 2: When I hear about a trade like that, my mind

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Speaker 2: goes to what builds GM. Brandon Bean has said before,

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Speaker 2: and it's that you're never one player away, and making

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Speaker 2: a move like that to trade away that much draft

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Speaker 2: capital kind of reflects and reflects you saying that you're

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Speaker 2: just one player away, and that Abdul Carter would be

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Speaker 2: that one player who would get you over the hump

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Speaker 2: and would get you to the promised land of a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I think Brandon Bean appreciates the draft picks

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Speaker 2: that he has this year and beyond, and giving up

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Speaker 2: a first and a second next year, I think would

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Speaker 2: be something that would be really difficult to do.

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Speaker 5: And then zooming out and just being the draft analyst

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Speaker 5: in me and the draft theorist, it would yes, you

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Speaker 5: would be excited as a Bills fan to say, oh

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Speaker 5: my god, we got Abdua Carter. We've seen him in

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Speaker 5: the top three for the last three months, and now

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Speaker 5: he's going to be on the Bills.

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Speaker 4: Zooming out.

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Speaker 5: I would say though, that in general, having such over

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Speaker 5: confidence that your evaluation is right, and then certainly over

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Speaker 5: confidence just assuming that that player would never get hurt

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Speaker 5: is usually not the right way to go about things,

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Speaker 5: and that we all understand.

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Speaker 4: And I understand this too. I said it at the

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Speaker 4: outset of the show.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to get so many evaluations wrong in this

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Speaker 5: draft class. The Bills understand and that even with the

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Speaker 5: analytics all the new information that we have, teams, if

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Speaker 5: they're hitting on thirty to forty percent of their picks

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Speaker 5: over this course of three to five to seven years,

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Speaker 5: they're the best drafting team in the NFL. So it

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Speaker 5: is better to have six, seven, eight, nine, ten picks

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Speaker 5: than sell the farm for one specific player. So it

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Speaker 5: goes to what you mentioned that Brandon Bean has said

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Speaker 5: that you're never one player away, and in terms of

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Speaker 5: just trying to build the team out and to have

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Speaker 5: the cost controlled, cheaper players, you want four or five

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Speaker 5: six of those guys, not just one where so much

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Speaker 5: pressure and onus is on that player to be the guy.

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Speaker 5: And then you watch the other team that traded out

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Speaker 5: have six or seven roles at the table. Just looking

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Speaker 5: at the numbers and the odds, the team that usually

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Speaker 5: trades out comes out better in those deals.

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Speaker 2: Bean has said before too that I'm not just thinking

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Speaker 2: about the Buffalo Bills of twenty twenty five. I'm also

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Speaker 2: thinking of the Buffalo Bills of twenty twenty six and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight. We've heard him

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Speaker 2: say so many times that I don't want just this

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Speaker 2: year's team to be a good team. I want every

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Speaker 2: single team that I'm a part of, and every single

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Speaker 2: year that I'm a part of to be a good

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Speaker 2: year for Buffalo. And we've seen this team find their

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Speaker 2: way to the playoffs and win AFC East title after

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Speaker 2: AFC East title several years in a row. Now that

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Speaker 2: the thought process has been from day one and twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 2: how can we create a roster that's not going to

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Speaker 2: be good for one year, but it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a playoff contender a super Bowl contender for several years.

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Speaker 2: And they've been a part of that conversation for the

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Speaker 2: last three seasons in terms of a team that can

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Speaker 2: make the super Bow.

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Speaker 5: I think a perfect parallel would be right in the

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Speaker 5: AFC that the Baltimore Ravens are a perennial playoffs slash

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Speaker 5: super Bowl contender. Really like, since they moved to Baltimore,

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Speaker 5: they have not had many losing seasons, John Harbaugh. First

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Speaker 5: it was Ozzie Newsom was the GM.

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Speaker 4: Now it's Eric Tacosta. They have always been good.

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Speaker 5: They're always in the mix, And yes they have missed

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Speaker 5: on a litany of players, they've also hit on a bunch.

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Speaker 4: And I'm tying this in.

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Speaker 5: It's not the exact same principle, but it's it's related

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Speaker 5: in that they are obsessed with compensatory picks. They let

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Speaker 5: free agents go. They usually don't sign a bunch of

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Speaker 5: free agents, and every year third fourth, fifth round. They

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Speaker 5: are loaded with picks, and that's again tying into what

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Speaker 5: I just mentioned about you want more roles at the table.

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Speaker 5: That has been key and their GM Eric Tacosta last

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Speaker 5: week or just a few days ago, did his pre

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Speaker 5: draft press conference and spoke directly to Ozzie Newsom. Taught

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Speaker 5: me the power of compensatory picks and that for as

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Speaker 5: much as we can get it enamored with specific draft

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Speaker 5: picks in round one or prospects, and that we love

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Speaker 5: this player, we need to go get him.

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Speaker 4: They usually let the draft come to them. They trade back.

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Speaker 5: They picked Haydenhurst and then traded back and then got

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Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson. They've done that multiple times. They are a

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Speaker 5: team that if you look at the amount of selections

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Speaker 5: that they've had during this stretch where they're always playoff contenders.

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Speaker 5: I don't know this for sure, but I would be

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Speaker 5: shocked if it's not the most or the top two

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Speaker 5: or top three in the league for the Bills last

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Speaker 5: year ten selections. This year, they're going in with ten selections.

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Speaker 5: That is the best way to do exactly what you

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Speaker 5: just said, Maddie. Keep the team as a playoff or

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl contender. Throughout a decade, and that's really hard

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Speaker 5: to do in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the like we always hear, and a lot

884
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Speaker 2: of us believe as long as you have Josh Allen

885
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Speaker 2: on your team, the super Bowl window is open for you.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take a break.

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Speaker 2: But when we return back to the phone lines here

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Speaker 2: on One Bills Live, we're presented by Clyde Health.

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Speaker 3: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. What's up, everybody. We're back

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Speaker 3: on One Bill's.

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Speaker 2: I've Matty glab and Chris Drapasso here today. We're talking

892
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Speaker 2: about the NFL Draft because it's just one week away.

893
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Speaker 2: It's also the fan mail bag day, so I've got

894
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Speaker 2: a question for us.

895
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Speaker 3: Tweet at us or give us a call.

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Speaker 2: At eight oh three, five point fifty, we're going back

897
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Speaker 2: to the phones to James in Boston, who joins us.

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Speaker 3: Now, Hey, James, how are you guys?

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Speaker 9: I want to say that I really agree with Christmas

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Speaker 9: points with Baltimore and drafting extra picks and value there,

901
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Speaker 9: but I do want to take a contrarian view just

902
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 9: for the fun of it, totally with the star player

903
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Speaker 9: like Travis Spunter. If the Bills could trade up with

904
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Speaker 9: like the rich feld Sharks and give up two ones

905
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Speaker 9: and two tubes to get up there. If that's even

906
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Speaker 9: enough to fill the need for star cornerback and even

907
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Speaker 9: a deep thread at wide receiver, would it be worth

908
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Speaker 9: it considering your actually filling two spots with one player,

909
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Speaker 9: thin give up that ammunition, Plus you're getting the elites,

910
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Speaker 9: the best of the best. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a great question, one that we

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Speaker 2: were just talking about in the break.

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Speaker 3: It's it's an.

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Speaker 2: Interesting conversation and we're coming at it from a thought

916
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Speaker 2: process of well, if it works out and it and

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Speaker 2: it helps get you a Super Bowl, then is it

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Speaker 2: worth it? And that's the game that you got to

919
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Speaker 2: play with things like this.

920
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Speaker 3: And I'm not a scout.

921
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Speaker 2: I'm not I don't work for an NFL scouting department.

922
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Speaker 2: In their thought process maybe way different than mine and

923
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Speaker 2: thinking so so simplifying it down to just that, because

924
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Speaker 2: there's so many more different factors that you have to

925
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Speaker 2: think about if you decide to trade up to let's say,

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Speaker 2: the second pick in the draft to go get you

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Speaker 2: a Travis Hunter who can play both ways. But something

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Speaker 2: that we've seen in the past and it wasn't trading

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Speaker 2: up to go get a pick, but it was trading

930
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Speaker 2: away your picks to go get really talented players who

931
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Speaker 2: were already in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Was the La Rams. And they prove that they can

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 2: They can trade away the picks and they can hit

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Speaker 2: on the picks in the middle and the later rounds

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Speaker 2: of the draft, and they put themselves together a super

937
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Speaker 2: Bowl roster. And after that Super Bowl, yes they were

938
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Speaker 2: not good for a year, but they are right back

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Speaker 2: on their way to being a consistent playoff contending team

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Speaker 2: with a lot of youth on their roster.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So last segment, and you know I and I guess

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Speaker 5: the last caller it was. I gave the classic draft

944
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Speaker 5: analyst viewpoint of like, trade back at as many picks

945
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Speaker 5: as possible. You watch two hundred and eighty players, you

946
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Speaker 5: like so many, so you're like, hey, get get as

947
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Speaker 5: many fourth rounders. There's so many good fourth round wide

948
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Speaker 5: receivers and corners and edge rushers. What you just laid

949
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Speaker 5: out and what the Rams did and are currently doing,

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Speaker 5: they bucked that trend and proved that there are a

951
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Speaker 5: million different ways that you can ultimately get there. I

952
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Speaker 5: don't I would say that the Rams are somewhat of

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Speaker 5: an outlier that if a bunch of other teams tried

954
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Speaker 5: the same methodology and said we're gonna trade like, we're

955
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Speaker 5: not gonna have a first round pick for like ten

956
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Speaker 5: years went from Jared Goff all the way unto last

957
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Speaker 5: season to not have a first round or I don't

958
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Speaker 5: know if it ultimately would equate to a Super Bowl

959
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Speaker 5: win like it did for the Rams, But in this

960
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Speaker 5: industry you have to be okay with being wrong and

961
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Speaker 5: understand that it's inevitable and also that there is not

962
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Speaker 5: a specific way to do it. That the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 5: drafted a running back in the first round, I would

964
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Speaker 5: never advocate that. I would say there's better value at

965
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Speaker 5: that position later in every single draft. Jamiir Gibbs has

966
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Speaker 5: been darn good and he's been an explosive player. I

967
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Speaker 5: think he's the most purely explosive running back in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: and he's been a central point to this resurgence for

969
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Speaker 5: the Lions. So for as much as I have my philosophies,

970
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Speaker 5: I'm always willing to evolve them and change them and

971
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Speaker 5: maybe something like this where it actually fits exactly what

972
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Speaker 5: the Bills need. A corner and a wide receiver, there

973
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Speaker 5: is some credence to it. What I would say to

974
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Speaker 5: kind of put a to close the door on it, though,

975
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Speaker 5: is you need the Browns to be okay with not

976
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Speaker 5: having Travis Hunter on their team. And that's usually why

977
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Speaker 5: we don't see very often those trades into the top

978
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Speaker 5: three or four in the draft, because those are the

979
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Speaker 5: blue chip players and for as much as you can

980
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 5: figure out a deal on a trade chart, you need

981
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Speaker 5: to have a interested seller and usually that's not the

982
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Speaker 5: case that early.

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Speaker 1: In the draft.

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Speaker 2: And we if we look back to what Brandon Bean

985
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Speaker 2: has done in his tenure with the Bills, while we

986
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Speaker 2: have seen movement in the first round, we haven't seen

987
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Speaker 2: anything absolutely crazy like that. And Bean has taken some

988
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Speaker 2: swings on guys, but that's been your Von Millers and

989
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: your Stefan Diggs, who are veteran players who have already

990
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: had success in the NFL. So something we haven't seen yet,

991
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: but not saying that it's not going to happen. It's

992
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Speaker 2: something that's absolutely fun to talk about because when you

993
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: think about a difference maker like Abdua Carter or Travis Hunter,

994
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 2: you get excited about what they could be on this roster,

995
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: but it would be I mean, we were talking about

996
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: moving last a few weeks ago, talking about where would

997
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: the Bills have to move up to to get Michigan's

998
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: cornerback Will Johnson, and moving up to fifteen sounded absolutely

999
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: wild for Buffalo to do. I think moving up to

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Speaker 2: number two or number three would be insane time, insane

1001
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Speaker 2: times one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And I was trying to look back now because I

1004
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Speaker 5: was kind of wrecking my own brain. The trades into

1005
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Speaker 5: the top three, we have not seen one. I can't

1006
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Speaker 5: remember the last time that it happened, Like during the

1007
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Speaker 5: draft the only time since twenty eighteen that we've seen it.

1008
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Speaker 5: Twenty eighteen, the Jets consummated a deal with the Colts

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Speaker 5: to ultimately pick Sam Darnold that was picked three, and

1010
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Speaker 5: then in twenty one the forty nine ers to get

1011
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Speaker 5: Trey Lance. Beyond that, teams are not like, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we'll move out of this second.

1013
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: Overall on quarterback.

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00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, So it's pretty I mean, and Travis Hunter

1015
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Speaker 5: is a rare dude, Like they're every team would love

1016
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Speaker 5: to have Travis Hunter on their roster. So because it

1017
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Speaker 5: would fit what the Bills need, I can understand I mean,

1018
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 5: I'm fine taking that caller. I think it's reasonable to

1019
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: talk about every possible.

1020
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Speaker 4: Scenario because you never know.

1021
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Speaker 5: But there's a reason why it normally doesn't happen, and

1022
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Speaker 5: it's because those teams at the top are not good

1023
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 5: teams and they need dynamic playmakers.

1024
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: The best or the greatest likelihood to hit on.

1025
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Speaker 5: That dynamic playmaker that can be an All Pro or

1026
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 5: maybe even a Hall of Fame caliber guy is in

1027
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 5: those first few picks in the draft.

1028
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: All right, break time for us.

1029
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: But when we return, NFL Film Senior producer Greg Cosel

1030
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Speaker 2: is joining the show. We're breaking down some running backs

1031
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: that might be available for Buffalo on Day two and

1032
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: day three. Don't want to miss it on One Bill's Live,

1033
00:50:52,120 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: represented by Cloud Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

1034
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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Calledlida Health.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to One Bill's Live, our number two

1036
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: of a Thursday show. Matti Glab alongside of CBS Sports

1037
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Speaker 2: NFL Draft analyst Chris Trapasso filling in for Steve Tasker.

1038
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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 2: We're off tomorrow, so today is the final show of

1040
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Speaker 2: the week. We've been talking about everything surrounding the NFL

1041
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: Draft because we are just seven days away, and I

1042
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: think being seven days away, you're at a point where

1043
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: you feel like you've you've talked about a lot of

1044
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: it already. So I love the phone calls we've gotten

1045
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: today because they are things that we have not talked

1046
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: about yet.

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Speaker 3: And that's moving up to number two and number three

1048
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Speaker 3: in the NFL Draft. Let's talk about it.

1049
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I told you during the break, I

1050
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 5: was not expecting about to talk about Abdull Carter potentially

1051
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Speaker 5: being on the Bills or Travis Hunter potentially being on

1052
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Speaker 5: the Bills.

1053
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 4: I did say last segment. I have to correct myself.

1054
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Speaker 5: I said that there weren't a lot of trades inside

1055
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Speaker 5: the top two or three recently happened in twenty twenty three,

1056
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 5: but it still Hammer's home, the point the Texans traded

1057
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Speaker 5: from twelve to three after picking CJ. Straut at two

1058
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 5: to pick will Anderson, and Hammer's home the point that

1059
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 5: the Cardinals probably wish they didn't make that trade and

1060
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Speaker 5: just picked will Anderson. They have a huge need at

1061
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 5: edge rusher. It has been a problem early in Jonathan

1062
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 5: Gannon and Monty Asin fort gm there in their ten years.

1063
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Speaker 5: So for as much as maybe it's happened a little

1064
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 5: bit more frequently than I first said, although that was

1065
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Speaker 5: one of the only that happened, like when they were

1066
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Speaker 5: on the clock. It feels like in general, you can't

1067
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Speaker 5: get a lot of those teams to budget. We saw

1068
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 5: with Hard Knocks how much Joe Shane tried to trade

1069
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Speaker 5: up to get Drake May. Patriots were like, we're we're

1070
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Speaker 5: not moving, Like you could offer us every draft pick

1071
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Speaker 5: for the next ten years and we're taking Drake May.

1072
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Speaker 5: So in general, the better players are available, the again

1073
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Speaker 5: strongest likelihood to be pro bowler type players are in

1074
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Speaker 5: those top three. That's why we don't see a lot

1075
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Speaker 5: of movement, especially on the clock for those top three picks.

1076
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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome in our friend, NFL's film senior

1077
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Speaker 2: producer Greg co Sell, who's also the co host of

1078
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Speaker 2: the ESPN's NFL Matchup show, to our show right now

1079
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about some running backs. Greg,

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Speaker 2: how you doing, Thanks for being on with us today.

1081
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Speaker 7: Well, you know it's funny you met if we've shot

1082
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Speaker 7: the NFL Draft Show this morning and it airs on

1083
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Speaker 7: Monday night. A couple of times in ESPN and ESPN two,

1084
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Speaker 7: So we're in good shape.

1085
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Speaker 3: I love it. I can't wait.

1086
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Speaker 2: I was asking Chris Trapasso this in the beginning of

1087
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Speaker 2: the show, since he's a draft analyst and like, you

1088
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: studying a lot of tape, but you get to a

1089
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Speaker 2: point where you're seven days out and you feel like

1090
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: a lot of.

1091
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Speaker 3: The homework is over.

1092
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Speaker 2: What are you doing seven days out from the NFL Draft?

1093
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 7: It's never over a problem because you can watch two

1094
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 7: hundred guys or you can watch five hundred guys, and

1095
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 7: because you know, because of what I do during the

1096
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Speaker 7: NFL season, I can't really start in detail till after

1097
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Speaker 7: the NFL season, and so I always feel like there's

1098
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 7: one hundred and fifty guys that.

1099
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: I won't get to see. So Maddy, for me, right now,

1100
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm just still grinding away. It hasn't ended for me

1101
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: at all.

1102
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 2: You're hammering away until Thursday night when the Tennessee Titans

1103
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 2: are on the clock. It's going to be a fun

1104
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: draft to watch. We want to talk about running backs

1105
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: with you because that's one of the old only positions

1106
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: we have yet to talk about. And first, before he

1107
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: jumped into some names based on the guys who you

1108
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,720
Speaker 2: have studied, what are your overall thoughts on this running

1109
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: back class that exists in this year's draft class.

1110
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 7: Well, you know, running back is a really interesting position

1111
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 7: now in the NFL because look, last year there were

1112
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 7: six running backs that had over three hundred carries.

1113
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, there were none.

1114
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 7: And everybody you know in recent years has talked about

1115
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 7: running backs as being what they have to be special,

1116
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 7: but special as one of those relative terms that could

1117
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 7: mean a lot or could mean nothing.

1118
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris will appreciate this, Maddie.

1119
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 7: When Kyeren Williams came out of Notre Dame, I doubt

1120
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 7: there was anybody who thought he'd be a feature back

1121
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 7: in the NFL. And he had three hundred and sixteen

1122
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 7: carries last year and did not play the last game

1123
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 7: of the season and clearly is a foundation piece of

1124
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 7: the Rams offense. So you know, I think it's always

1125
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 7: easy to say, well, this guy is not this, or

1126
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 7: this guy is not that, but I think it depends

1127
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 7: on team and scheme, and I think there's a lot

1128
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 7: of guys in this draft that, depending on team and scheme,

1129
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 7: could end up being.

1130
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: Meaningful players in the NFL.

1131
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 7: Look go back two years, I lose track Premier Gibbs.

1132
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: Okay, he was drafted twelve.

1133
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 7: I'm sure a lot of people they knew he was explosive,

1134
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 7: but I'm not sure a lot of people thought he'd

1135
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 7: be the kind of back that could get over two

1136
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 7: hundred carrits. And obviously he did because Montgomery got hurt

1137
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 7: and missed or four games David Montgomery. But it becomes

1138
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 7: two teams, seems specific, and it's so hard to know.

1139
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I'll give you an example of a back

1140
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 7: that I absolutely love.

1141
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what christicks of it.

1142
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 7: I really loved Damian Martinez at the University of Miami,

1143
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 7: and I think in the right situation he could be.

1144
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: A foundation back.

1145
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 7: I watched his tape and I thought of Josh Jacobs,

1146
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 7: you know. And you know, so it depends on what

1147
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 7: a team thinks of, you know, their offensive philosophy, how

1148
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 7: they see the back.

1149
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point.

1150
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, so about the evaluation of the running back position.

1151
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 5: And I was just looking at the list of the

1152
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 5: guys that we're going to talk about in a second here.

1153
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 5: Do you think, especially from a bill's perspective, that you

1154
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 5: can talk about elusiveness?

1155
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 8: Speed?

1156
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 5: Do you think more so for the Bills than other teams,

1157
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 5: that the ability to catch the football out of the

1158
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 5: backfield is probably held in higher regard by this team,

1159
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 5: that those are maybe the players that the Bills fans

1160
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 5: in terms of the running back position, should be more

1161
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 5: in tune about.

1162
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 4: When we get into draft weekend, I.

1163
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: Would say yes.

1164
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 7: I mean, look, I don't know what the whole situation

1165
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 7: that James Cook is. I guess they're not going to

1166
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 7: extend him now. And as well as James Cook has done,

1167
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 7: they may feel that that's not where they want to

1168
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 7: allocate their resources. That they could draft the back and

1169
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 7: the third, fourth or fifth round in their mind, could

1170
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 7: do what James Cook does, given that when Bush comes

1171
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 7: to shove, it's a Josh Allen offense. So you know,

1172
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 7: I think that the receiving element certainly does mean something

1173
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 7: to the Bills. We've seen the way they've used So yeah,

1174
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 7: I would say that's probably very fair.

1175
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 4: All right.

1176
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 5: So let's start with some of these prospects then, And

1177
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 5: I wanted to offer up one that I that I

1178
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 5: thought on film was really good as a wide receiver,

1179
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 5: SMUs Forshard Smith.

1180
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was a wide receiver.

1181
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 5: He was a wide receiver. Absolutely, So what were your

1182
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 5: thoughts on him? And then as much as you can

1183
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 5: blended into a potential fit or how you could envision

1184
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 5: him being utilized in the Bills offense.

1185
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 7: Well, it's funny, you say, because it's a fourth star recruit,

1186
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 7: had wide receiver and he signed with the University of

1187
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 7: Miami and when he played thirty five games in pre

1188
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 7: seasons and then he went to SMU where they made

1189
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 7: him a running back. You know, I kind of like

1190
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 7: Brishard Smith. I mean, you know, funny. Here's another great example.

1191
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 7: The conventional wisdom would be that he lacks the desired

1192
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 7: size to be a quote unquote primary back.

1193
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: But then you look at what Bucky Tervin did with

1194
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: the Bucks last year.

1195
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 7: We had over two hundred carries and he's one hundred

1196
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 7: ninety two pounds, you know, And obviously Smith is a

1197
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 7: very good receiver. He had close to fifty catches year ago.

1198
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 7: He ran really well. You know, he's the kind of

1199
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 7: guy who can line up in multiple locations within your

1200
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 7: formation and for a team that you know, the Bills

1201
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 7: do want to run the ball and do that, but

1202
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 7: I don't think they're running such that they need a

1203
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 7: back team to have two hundred and eighty or three

1204
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 7: d carry one back, So I really like a lot.

1205
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 7: I think he's probably an assending player. What he ultimately

1206
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 7: reached the NFL level, I think that becomes a function of.

1207
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: Team and how he's employed. But I think he's a

1208
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: really interesting prospect.

1209
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: Chris another prospect who I've had a fun time watching

1210
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: and think that he could be fun in Buffalo's offense,

1211
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: and a lot of people have talked about him as

1212
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: a running back that offers several different things. Is Tennessee's

1213
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 2: running back Dylan Sampson, who was in twenty twenty four

1214
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 2: SEC Offensive Player of the Year First Team All SEC

1215
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: had a school record twenty two rushing touchdowns. What does

1216
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: Dylan Sampson offer that other running back don't.

1217
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 7: I don't know, offers things other running backs don't. I mean,

1218
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 7: I think he's a good prospect. I mean, he's another

1219
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 7: guy that's just two hundred pounds, not overly big. You know,

1220
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 7: I think that he knows how to run. I think

1221
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 7: he had an innate feel for the patients, the discipline

1222
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 7: demand in gap scheme. They ran a ton of gap

1223
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 7: scheme runs where they pulled guards. You know, he certainly

1224
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 7: got short area burst. He's, like I said, he's not

1225
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 7: a big back. So the question is what does that

1226
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 7: mean as far as his deployment for the Bills, Maddie,

1227
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 7: he may be fine because you know, like I said,

1228
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 7: they're they're not necessarily looking to have a back with

1229
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,479
Speaker 7: three hundred carries. You know, I think that he's he's

1230
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 7: physical and competitive running inside. But there's a difference between

1231
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 7: physical and powerful. He's not powerful because he's not big

1232
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 7: enough to be powerful, but he's certainly physical and competitive.

1233
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: So you know, I think that, you know, he's a

1234
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 7: good prospect. You know, I'm not sure he's a three

1235
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 7: down back at the next level right now. I think

1236
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 7: his past protection would have to improve.

1237
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: Staying in the SEC.

1238
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 5: A new team in the SEC, Texas, Jaden Blue is

1239
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 5: a really fascinating guy to me. You mentioned it with

1240
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 5: Brashard Smith that you feel like Brishard Smith is an

1241
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 5: ascending player.

1242
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 4: Jaden Blue didn't even have the most.

1243
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 5: Carries on his Texas team last year, only one hundred

1244
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 5: and thirty four carries blazingly fast. What do you feel

1245
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 5: about his ability to maybe be that Tyron Williams type

1246
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 5: or do you think he's just going to be or

1247
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 5: could be at his ceiling like a quality running back

1248
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 5: too in the NFL.

1249
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1250
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 7: Well, the thing that will get people excited Chris about Blue,

1251
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 7: and I'm sure you've looked at him, is how explosive

1252
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 7: he is. I mean, all you have to do is

1253
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 7: look at that thirty eight yard touchdown against Clemson in

1254
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 7: the playoffs, and man, he just looked like he was

1255
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 7: playing faster than everybody on the field. And I'm sure

1256
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 7: you remember that play. Just you know, he just looks

1257
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 7: so fast. He's a really good receiver. I don't think

1258
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 7: he'd he's seen as a volume runner at this point,

1259
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 7: you know, or at the next level, certainly early in

1260
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 7: his career. You know, it's funny that we're talking about

1261
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 7: him because here's what I typed when I finished watching him.

1262
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 7: I said, Blue at this point in his development is

1263
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 7: not a volume runner at the next level, rather projecting

1264
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 7: and transitioning early in his career as part of a

1265
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 7: two back system. But it would not surprise me if

1266
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 7: with coaching and experience, he became the kind of back

1267
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 7: James Cook is for the Bills, whoa Cook is a

1268
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 7: primary back but not a foundation back in terms of

1269
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 7: number of carries, so you know, I saw him in

1270
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 7: a very similar way. But he is really really explosive,

1271
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 7: and he is a good receiver. He's a mismatch weapon

1272
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 7: in the in the passing game, he caught a wheel

1273
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 7: route for a touchdown against Ohio State.

1274
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: You know, he's that kind of back.

1275
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: I like that.

1276
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: And let's move over to Kansas where they have a

1277
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: running back in Devin Neil who had twelve over twelve

1278
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: hundred rushing yards last season, led the team sixteen rushing touchdowns.

1279
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 3: What do you like about his film?

1280
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Defaniel a lot.

1281
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 7: I watched him last summer from two thousand and three,

1282
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 7: I watched him in twenty twenty four. He's he's one

1283
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 7: of those backs that and and Chris you could jump

1284
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 7: in here. I think you have to watch a lot

1285
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 7: of them because there's not like a natural explosiveness to

1286
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 7: him when you come away going, oh my god, this

1287
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 7: guy is just unbelievable. But I think that there's a

1288
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 7: quickness to him. I think there's he knows how to run.

1289
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 7: There's a there's kind of an easy elusiveness to him,

1290
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 7: and it doesn't look like, oh my god, wow, but

1291
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 7: he's got light quick feet. He's got very smooth, efficient movement,

1292
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 7: really good balance and body control. He sort of makes

1293
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 7: sharp darting cuts as opposed to like shaking bake cuts,

1294
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 7: So but he's got he's got pretty good contact balance.

1295
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 1: They ran a lot of outside zone. He was really

1296
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: good at that.

1297
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 7: I thought he had a really good feel for reading

1298
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 7: how gaps change and how the defensive flow impacts what

1299
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 7: he's then going to do. And he's another guy that's

1300
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 7: a really good receiver. So I think think he's a

1301
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 7: really interesting prospect. There might be a lot of teams

1302
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 7: that view him as a later round pick because he

1303
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 7: ran a four or five eight, which you know is

1304
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 7: not very good obviously, but you know, I always think

1305
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 7: about that. I mean, how many sixty are touchdown ruins

1306
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 7: do you see in the NFL by backs? So he's

1307
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,959
Speaker 7: a little bigger than the other guys we spoke about.

1308
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 7: He was two thirteen at the combine. I just came

1309
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 7: away watching Neil feeling like, this guy's a good football player.

1310
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he seems like a really high floor.

1311
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 5: And I think your last point is really important to

1312
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 5: pinpoint with Devin Neil that all the other guys that

1313
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 5: we've talked about up until Neil.

1314
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 4: They're smaller. He's five eleven two thirteen.

1315
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 5: He has a classic not that you have to be

1316
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 5: that big anymore, but has the classic feature back size.

1317
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 5: I really liked his contact balance on film. I thought

1318
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 5: like there were linebackers and safeties bouncing off of him

1319
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 5: a lot. Another player that I really like, and I'm

1320
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 5: I'm very excited to hear your thoughts r J. Harvey

1321
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 5: from UCF. What are your thoughts? And do you see

1322
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 5: this is my comparison, Maybe you don't have the same one.

1323
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 5: I think he's maybe not quite as gifted athletically, but stylistically.

1324
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 4: Reminded me a lot of Bucky Irving, who you mentioned earlier.

1325
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 7: Interesting, you know, I didn't necessarily see that. Now that

1326
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 7: you've mentioned, I don't think it's bad. I really liked

1327
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 7: r J.

1328
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: Harvey.

1329
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 7: I mean he to me, he was kind of a

1330
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 7: picker and a seeker. He pressed the whole, He manipulated

1331
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 7: the defense, He looked for space.

1332
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: He was patient. You know, some think he's too patient.

1333
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 7: You know, I guess that he waits too long, but

1334
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 7: he has patience, He understands tempo.

1335
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: He had really good vision.

1336
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 7: He's another guy that read blocking schemes and defensive flow

1337
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 7: and gap fluidity really really well. And then he had

1338
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 7: tremendous short area burst. I mean I thought he had

1339
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 7: elite lateral agility and quickness. I mean he's stopped and

1340
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 7: start jump cut ability. I really liked r. J.

1341
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 1: Harvey. I mean he's five eight, he's two h five.

1342
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: He ran well, and I just thought he was a.

1343
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 7: Very controlled, calculated runner who just had really good vision.

1344
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 7: The more I watched Tim Chris, the more.

1345
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: I liked him.

1346
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: Okay, and then our last running back that we haven't

1347
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: touched yet, somebody that's down the road in Syracuse. Running

1348
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: back la Quinn Allen had over one thousand rushing yards

1349
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: last season, led the team with sixteen touchdowns as well,

1350
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: and led the FBS among running backs with sixty four receptions.

1351
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: Talk about a running back who can also add in

1352
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 2: the passing game, Well, that's Alan. What did you find

1353
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: when you watched his tape.

1354
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 7: He's a guy you gotta watch a lot of because

1355
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 7: he's not explosive. So when you watch him, you know

1356
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 7: when he gets to the second or third level, he's

1357
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 7: not running away from anyone. He's a very methodical, measured runner.

1358
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 7: He's more of an inside runner. He's not really going

1359
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 7: to bounce. But I thought he was really refined. I

1360
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 7: thought he was an accomplished controlled runner. He never looked hurried.

1361
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 7: He did have some quick cuts. I thought he had

1362
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 7: a really good sense for pressing the hole and manipulating

1363
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 7: the movement of second level defenders. And he was physically

1364
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 7: and mentally tough. Like I said, the more you watch him,

1365
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 7: I think I ended up watching seven games just because

1366
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 7: I kind of enjoyed watching him. The other thing, he

1367
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 7: did really really well, And I learned this from Merril Hodge,

1368
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 7: who I worked with for years and years, and I

1369
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 7: think this is so important.

1370
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: He was a guy that got hard yards.

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 7: So a lot of times he would be contacted at

1372
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 7: two yards and you'd look up and it would be

1373
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 7: a seven yard run. And I think that stuff you

1374
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 7: can never overlook. That to me, that is so critical,

1375
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 7: you know. And as I said, he's not necessarily an explosive,

1376
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 7: you know, second and third level runner, so that becomes

1377
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 7: even more important. And he is a very good receiver,

1378
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 7: So you know, I really like the player. You know, again,

1379
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 7: if you're looking for explosiveness, he's not your guy. But

1380
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 7: I think if you're looking for just a really solid back.

1381
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 7: Oh and by the way, he's really good in pass

1382
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 7: pro so important. I think you're just looking for kind

1383
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 7: of a complete back.

1384
01:07:57,480 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1385
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 3: And with a player like.

1386
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: It depends how you know about that.

1387
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and with a Blair like that.

1388
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean you just watch his tape and you think

1389
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 2: you have a you have a wide receiver body body.

1390
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 4: He ran wide receiver routes at Syracuse.

1391
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 5: It's not just catching screens or wheels like they had

1392
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 5: him in the slot running routes, which was really impressive.

1393
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: And then Greg and I wanted to ask you this

1394
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 2: in the league, you know, he.

1395
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 7: Kind of reminded me of I'm sorry, Maddie, No, you're good.

1396
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 7: He's a smaller, but he kind of reminded me at

1397
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 7: times of Rashad White.

1398
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see that for sure.

1399
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: Okay, we've talked about running backs. This is moving beyond

1400
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 2: running backs. But at this point, you've watched so many

1401
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: different prospects and not even having to tie this to

1402
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 2: the Bills, just out of curiosity, what are a few

1403
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: prospects that you've really fallen in love with over the

1404
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 2: process and you're really excited to watch at.

1405
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 3: The next level.

1406
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 5: Greg could go for probably two hours. You could go

1407
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 5: for a while on this.

1408
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 8: You know.

1409
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean there's probably some guys that you know.

1410
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 7: I mentioned Damian Martinez and I just as we were

1411
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 7: doing running backs. But I watched him last summer when

1412
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 7: he was at Oregon State, and I watched him of

1413
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 7: course this year at the University of Miami. I really

1414
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 7: like that kid on tape, and he's not just a

1415
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 7: big pounding back.

1416
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: He's got pretty light feet, you know.

1417
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 7: I think that the true Iowa State receivers I am

1418
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 7: really intrigued by. They're totally different players. Jalen Noel is

1419
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 7: a smaller guy who's got some explosiveness to him. I

1420
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 7: think you could line him up inside or outside. But

1421
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 7: Jayden Higgins, the other receiver at Iowa State, I don't know.

1422
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm in the minority. I don't know you're feeling. Chris.

1423
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 7: I love that kid, And when I say love, I

1424
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 7: don't mean he should be a top ten pick, But

1425
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 7: I really like his tape an awful lot, and I

1426
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 7: think that he's he to me, is a guy that

1427
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised anywhere that he's drafted. And I

1428
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 7: think given his size and his movement and you know,

1429
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,720
Speaker 7: he's got ability to separate at the top of his route.

1430
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 7: Stem He's not one of those you know, six or

1431
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 7: four guys who just is sort of plotting.

1432
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: He's not like that at all. He's actually very smooth.

1433
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 7: So those are you know, two Iowa state receivers that

1434
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 7: I really liked.

1435
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. I tell you a guy that.

1436
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 7: Intrigued me immensely, immensely, and I'm not sure what he's

1437
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 7: going to be in the league, and that's Alfred Collins,

1438
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 7: the d tackle from Texas.

1439
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: Huge.

1440
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 7: He's six six, three hundred and thirty two pounds, and

1441
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 7: when you just see him on the field with the

1442
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 7: other big guys, they look like ninth grade Pop Warners

1443
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 7: compared to him.

1444
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, but he.

1445
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 7: Does have a tendency to play a little high, but

1446
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,480
Speaker 7: his good plays, he looks ridiculous.

1447
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those where you go, oh

1448
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: my god.

1449
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 7: So you know, sometimes the guys who do have a

1450
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 7: tendency to play upright though, that's a hard thing to fix.

1451
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 7: But he's he's super intriguing, and I just I don't know,

1452
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 7: you know, I'm very curious. Maddie in response to your

1453
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 7: question to see who drafts him and what he can

1454
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 7: be in the league.

1455
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 5: All right, last one for me is not actually a question.

1456
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 5: I would hope that I can have a few seconds

1457
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 5: here to tell a story about Greg, to pay homage

1458
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 5: to how.

1459
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 4: Great of an evaluating to do it being a draft guy.

1460
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 5: This is inspirational for me, seriously. Twenty twelve draft. I

1461
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 5: am working at Bleacher Report. I'm just like covering the draft.

1462
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 5: I love college football. There was not really a lot

1463
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 5: of film available, and everyone had in what I'm sure

1464
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 5: Greg will understand is can be an echo chamber and

1465
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 5: a lot of group think and everyone, I'm telling you,

1466
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:33,879
Speaker 5: everyone had Morris Claiborne as the number one cornerback LSU

1467
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 5: got picked by the Cowboys, and yes, and I'm reading

1468
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 5: I'm trying to just get as much researched on to

1469
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 5: live blog this draft in twenty twelve. That's the RG three,

1470
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 5: Trent Richardson, Andrew Luck draft, and I come across Greg

1471
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 5: co Sell's rankings and I'm like, I need to read these,

1472
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 5: and I'm expecting to see just the exact.

1473
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,879
Speaker 4: Run of the mill rankings of every position.

1474
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 5: And there's a tie to the Bills here, obviously, Greg

1475
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 5: add Stefan Gilmore as your number one corner in that class,

1476
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 5: and for me that was like whoa, Like, he's not

1477
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 5: aligned with everyone else, and you stuck to that. And

1478
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 5: to this day, Morris Claiborne and no disrespect to him,

1479
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 5: been out of the league for years, Stefan Gilmour is

1480
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 5: still playing in the NFL one Defensive Player of the Year.

1481
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 5: So that was a light bulb moment for me where

1482
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 5: that went on, where I thought it was better and

1483
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 5: was just for your integrity to do your own evaluations

1484
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 5: and try to avoid the echo chamber that it can be.

1485
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 4: And you were to me a pioneer for that.

1486
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 7: I appreciate that, Chris, But the way I do, and

1487
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 7: believe me, I get guys wrong. Everybody does, so I

1488
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 7: you know, I appreciate what you said me too, But

1489
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 7: what I do is, Look, I don't work for a team,

1490
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 7: so I'm not doing the due diligence teams do.

1491
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm not interviewing guys. You know, I'm not doing all that.

1492
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 7: I sit and watch tape and I let the tape

1493
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 7: speak to me, and you know, to me, like if

1494
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 7: I'm done with a guy in mid February, like I

1495
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 7: was done with cam Ward in mid February. Okay, this

1496
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 7: was before the combine. I normally do the quarterbacks first

1497
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 7: because Mattie, as you know, that's all I get asked

1498
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 7: about the combine quarterbacks.

1499
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: That's the way it works, you know. And I said

1500
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: cam Ward.

1501
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 7: In mid February, I started to say, I think cam

1502
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 7: Ward is worthy of a you know, a number one

1503
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 7: type pick, that he is an elite prospect. Now again,

1504
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 7: we don't know how he's going to do in the NFL,

1505
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 7: but I'm done at that point, Like, I'm not changing

1506
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 7: my point of view, you know, just because I might see,

1507
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 7: you know, and I don't do mock drafts because that's

1508
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 7: not the best use of my time. But you know,

1509
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 7: to me, when I'm done with the tape, I'm done

1510
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 7: with the tape, you know, I move on to the

1511
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 7: next guy, you know. And sure do I see the

1512
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 7: mock drafts. Of course, I don't live under rock and

1513
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 7: a lot of these guys are friends of mine. But

1514
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 7: I you know, I don't change my opinion now, you know,

1515
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 7: I've done these guys, you know, I move on.

1516
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: To the next guy.

1517
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there just needs to be more draft

1518
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 5: evaluators like Greg out there because a lot of those

1519
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 5: opinions magically change in March and April. And I'm not

1520
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 5: trying to call out anyone specifically. I just think the

1521
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 5: industry as a whole would be better for fans and

1522
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 5: listeners if there was more legitimate evaluations. And that twenty

1523
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 5: twelve cornerback rankings, well, I will never forget that. To see,

1524
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 5: Greg was the only one on an island and was

1525
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 5: fine with it, and then now fourteen years later, he's

1526
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 5: ultimately was right on that cornerback ranking to have Stefan

1527
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 5: Gilmour ahead of Morris Claiborne.

1528
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 3: I love a story like that.

1529
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Chris bro I also thought Zach Mettenberger

1530
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: could play in the NFL. Me too.

1531
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 4: I did too. I did too.

1532
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: It's fine, you know, I mean, it's just the way

1533
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 1: it goes, you know.

1534
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: Greg, Thanks so much for taking the time to break

1535
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: down some running backs with us. So we hope the

1536
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: next week of your life is full with maybe a

1537
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 2: little bit of break here and there before the Titans

1538
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: are on the clock with the first overall pick. It's

1539
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 2: going to be an exciting draft for sure, And congrats

1540
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: on all the work you've done. With watching and studying

1541
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: all these prospects, and we hope a lot of our

1542
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: viewers and listeners go out and watch ESPN's NFL Matchup

1543
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 2: as you guys break down what's ahead in the NFL Draft.

1544
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: Hey, just one quick thing.

1545
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 7: My thirty third team stuff just came out today, So

1546
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 7: do you find it. I think there's like two hundred

1547
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 7: guys that are in that in that I can't quite

1548
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 7: do what Dan Gruglu does because I can't do it,

1549
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 7: you know, twelve months a year. But I think there's

1550
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 7: about two hundred guys that are evaluating.

1551
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 3: And it's on the thirty third team. You said, yeah, okay, perfect.

1552
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: To be out this afternoon.

1553
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 5: I think I'm going to be looking for the next

1554
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 5: is to find gilmore over Morris Claiborne.

1555
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it. Greg, we'll see on the other side.

1556
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: All right, take care?

1557
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 3: All right?

1558
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 2: That was NFL Film senior producer Greg co Sill also

1559
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: co hosts of the ESPN's NFL Matchup show. And like

1560
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: you heard Greg cost Cell say, he does his own

1561
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: form of the Beast on the thirty third team, and

1562
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: you can check that out at some point today. I

1563
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: can go and see if it's already up there and

1564
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 2: let you guys know where you can find it. But

1565
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: exciting stuff from Greg cos Sel. Cool to learn about

1566
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 2: some of those running backs there that could be available

1567
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: for Buffalo to take on Day two and Day three

1568
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: if they believe, hey, we could use some depth here

1569
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 2: or this is just too good of a class to

1570
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 2: miss out on.

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01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 5: That's so what you just said there at the end,

1572
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 5: That's how I'm thinking the Bills are going to go

1573
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 5: into it with. If you think about the running back room,

1574
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 5: there's not like, oh there's a position open, there's a

1575
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 5: job open there with James Cook, Ti Johnson, Ray Davis.

1576
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 5: You have Frank Gore junior on the practice squad. They

1577
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,520
Speaker 5: resigned Darrington Evans, who made some plays in the preseason

1578
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 5: for them. But your latter point, I think is how

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01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 5: a team like the Bills, and maybe they have more

1580
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 5: jobs available on defense this year than they've had in

1581
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 5: years past, but I think that's how they normally approach

1582
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 5: almost every round of the draft, where they could get

1583
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 5: into Round five, they have a bunch of extra picks

1584
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,799
Speaker 5: late in the draft and go all right, we didn't

1585
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 5: think we were going to pick a running back, But

1586
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 5: if they love Brischhard Smith, or they have a third

1587
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 5: round grade on Jaden Blue and he's there in round five.

1588
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 5: That's when we see some of those Oh they didn't

1589
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,480
Speaker 5: really need that, but they ultimately went best player available,

1590
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 5: and I think later in the draft going best player

1591
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:10,480
Speaker 5: available or the guys that you think are high, highly athletic,

1592
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 5: high upside players. That is where you ultimately build out

1593
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 5: the quality depth on your team. And the Bills we

1594
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 5: know Day two and Day three have absolutely crushed during

1595
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 5: the Branded.

1596
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: Being era, and that all goes back to taking the

1597
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 2: time to set up your board and once your board

1598
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 2: is set, following your board regardless.

1599
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 4: Yes, follow your follow your board.

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01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 2: You put all the work into make your board. Do

1601
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 2: not do something other than following your board. We're going

1602
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: to take a break, but when we returned back to

1603
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 2: the phone lines and we're going to talk about Mock

1604
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: Draft Watch eight point zero. It's coming out tomorrow. I'll

1605
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: update you guys on positions, numbers we've tracked, and a

1606
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: couple players that at least I have not talked about

1607
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 2: yet on the show that will dive into next. On

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01:17:53,400 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, We're presented by Clidahealth on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: What's up, guys, We're back here on one Bill's Live.

1610
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: Want to go back to the phone lines because Steve

1611
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 2: from Syracuse has been hanging on for a while. Steve,

1612
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: you're on with us?

1613
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 1: Now?

1614
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 3: How you doing?

1615
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: Oh? Per vision?

1616
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 3: Like me right here, Steve? Are you on with us? Hello?

1617
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 3: Steve going once? Nope, I think.

1618
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 5: We're getting is like maybe he put the phone down

1619
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 5: and we were getting his TV.

1620
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 4: He was like listening to a commercial there.

1621
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: That's all good, no worries, because we want to talk

1622
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 2: about the mock Draft Watch. It is coming out tomorrow,

1623
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 2: Mock Draft Watch eight point oh. We are doing ten total,

1624
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 2: so we are.

1625
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 3: Almost at the end.

1626
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 2: And once we get to this point leading up to

1627
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: the draft, I mean, there are so many mock drafts

1628
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,640
Speaker 2: coming out every single week. It's usually like ten to

1629
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: twelve a week. Now it's like twenty a week. So

1630
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: wanted to discover that with you guys before it comes out,

1631
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: and wanted to run down some of the numbers from

1632
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: the mock drafts that we have tracked so far.

1633
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 3: I have tracked one hundred and fourteen.

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01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 5: I love this, by the way, someone with a Google

1635
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 5: sheet and I love the numbers of the draft, the

1636
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,480
Speaker 5: fact that this is your big project.

1637
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 4: And you keep tracking my baby.

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01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is great this time of year. I know

1639
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 5: that this was your thing. So I want to give

1640
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 5: you the floor and tell.

1641
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 4: Us all this.

1642
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 3: Thank you. So one fourteen total.

1643
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 2: Of those one fourteen, Chris defensive tackle has been mocked

1644
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: to the Bills forty one times.

1645
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: That's a huge number.

1646
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 2: Number one on the list in terms of position groups

1647
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 2: as being favorites right now, number two on the list

1648
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 2: not far behind, and we've seen a lot of this

1649
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: position group get mocked to the Bills as of late.

1650
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: Cornerback thirty three times. A cornerback has been mocked to

1651
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 2: Buffalo and then tied for third place is edge rusher

1652
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: and wide receiver both at fourteen times each. And when

1653
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 2: you look at the players who are being mocked to

1654
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 2: Buffalo since the beginning, I want to say Kenneth Grant

1655
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 2: has been the favorite. Kenneth Grant, the defensive tackle out

1656
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 2: of Michigan, remains the favorite. He was getting mocked to

1657
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: the Bills at the end of January and he's still

1658
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: getting mocked to the Bills now as we approach the

1659
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: NFL Draft just a week out. Grant has been mocked

1660
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 2: to Buffalo twenty one times. Yes, next up has been

1661
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 2: mocked to Buffalo, less than half the amount that Kenneth

1662
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 2: Grant has been mocked.

1663
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 3: To the Bills.

1664
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: Next up is Kentucky cornerback Maxwell Harriston at ten times.

1665
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 2: He's popped up a few times over the last few weeks.

1666
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 3: Another player who I.

1667
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: Love and I don't think he's going to be around

1668
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 2: at thirty, who is the third favorite for Buffalo, and

1669
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: I've seen his name pop up to a couple times

1670
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: in the last week and a half, is the defensive

1671
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 2: tackle out of Oregon, Derek Harmon. I think he will

1672
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: go before the Bills are on the clock at number thirty.

1673
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:04,879
Speaker 2: And then tied for fourth, a defensive tackle and a safety,

1674
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 2: You've got Walter Nolan out of Ole, miss And then

1675
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: you also have the safety nick Emon worri who we

1676
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 2: spoke about earlier in the show, who's been mocked to

1677
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo seven different times. So those are the favorites, and

1678
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: nick Emon Worriy is out of South Carolina.

1679
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: And then if.

1680
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: You go to fifth, you've got the edge rusher out

1681
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: of Boston College, Donovan Ezeraku being mocked to Buffalo six times.

1682
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: And then you also have another cornerback, Trey Amos, who's

1683
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 2: been mocked to Buffalo six times as well, the cornerback

1684
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 2: out of Ole miss. So those are the favorite names

1685
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 2: right now. We've seen Trey Amos pop up a bunch

1686
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: in the last two weeks lately, so I've found that

1687
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 2: a little bit interesting. That's a mental note that I'm

1688
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 2: taking for myself is Amos and Chavon Ravel out of

1689
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: East Carolina has been also a name that's been mocked

1690
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: to Buffalo a few times over the last few weeks.

1691
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: Some of these names surprise you at this point in

1692
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 2: the draft. Any of these numbers surprise you at this

1693
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: point before the draft, So I'd.

1694
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 5: Say, yeah, nothing surprising about that list. I think Kenneth

1695
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 5: Grant ping at the top because of his size that

1696
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 5: he's three hundred and thirty plus pounds, played next to

1697
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 5: Mason Graham there at Michigan and was an instoppable force

1698
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 5: in terms of his ability against the run. Maybe not

1699
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 5: Dexter Lawrence or Vita vea pass rusher yet, but you

1700
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 5: see the flashes and he's only twenty one years old,

1701
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 5: So no surprise.

1702
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 4: Who is at the top of that mock Draft Watch.

1703
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 5: Speaking directly to the recent cornerback surge for Trey Amos,

1704
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 5: I think it's what we were kind of getting at

1705
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 5: through that rundown. He feels like he might be the

1706
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 5: most likely to be available for the Bills. That Derek

1707
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 5: Harmon and even Kenneth Grant and Nick a Man worry

1708
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 5: Derek Harmon they may not ultimately be there. And I

1709
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 5: think as we've gotten closer to the draft, tracking other

1710
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 5: mock drafts and just evaluations around the internet and any

1711
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 5: rumors that have been circulating from the insiders, it feels

1712
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 5: like a lot of those players are not gonna be there.

1713
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 4: At thirty.

1714
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 5: Trey Amos quality player across the board from the SEC

1715
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: at Ole miss tested well, didn't jump forty one inches

1716
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 5: and run four three, but ran in the low four fours.

1717
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,879
Speaker 5: The ball skills were there, made a lot of plays

1718
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 5: in zone, but then showed the ability to match up

1719
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 5: and mirror in man coverage. So I think that is

1720
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 5: why we have seen more of Trey Amos to the

1721
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 5: Bills lately, and it'll be fascinating for you to track

1722
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 5: all the way up until the draft when those final

1723
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,719
Speaker 5: mock drafts come out next week. If that becomes even

1724
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 5: more popular of a pick because the other few that

1725
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 5: I mentioned at the top maybe are going to be

1726
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 5: more of a pipe dream for the Bills at thirty.

1727
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: Overall, yeah, I agree.

1728
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 2: There's a couple names that I wanted to run down

1729
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 2: who we haven't touched on yet. Will do this quickly.

1730
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 2: This player has not been mocked to Buffalo within the

1731
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: last week, but in the last two weeks, I've seen

1732
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: his name pop up. Defensive tackle Tyleek Williams out of

1733
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: Ohio State six, three hundred and thirty four pounds ester.

1734
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 2: This guy has a high motor and at three hundred

1735
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 2: and thirty four pounds, you would think doesn't move super fast,

1736
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 2: but I believe he has quick feet, rare quickness to

1737
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: him that when you see he's chasing down quarterbacks, that

1738
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 2: quickness turns into power upon impact.

1739
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 3: Which I really like. I think he's feisty.

1740
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 2: In the way that he plays the position and can

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Speaker 2: shed blocks and clog up gaps with that frame. I

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01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: love the energy that you see with the way that

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: he plays the game.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. You nail that.

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Speaker 5: That is the lengthy scouting report, which was very good detailed.

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Speaker 5: The summary is he is the best run defending defensive

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Speaker 5: tackle in the class. And you think run defense just

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01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 5: means power and tackling ability close to the football, because

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01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 5: he is going to play nose tackle in the NFL

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01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,839
Speaker 5: at that size. But a lot of what you reference

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01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 5: that he has light on his his feet at three

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01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 5: point thirty plus helps him make plays against the run

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01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 5: on the stretch, run plays the inside and outside zone

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01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 5: where you need to get lateral and a lot of

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01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 5: three hundred and thirty pounders just can't do that. I

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01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 5: don't think that Tyleergue Williams is going to ever be

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01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 5: a fifty to sixty seventy pressure a season player six seven, eight, nine,

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01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 5: ten sacks, but he will immediately help your team's run defense.

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01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 5: The stack and shed ability is there, like you mentioned

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01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 5: power where he is just controlling not just big ten

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01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 5: interior offensive lineman, but all the way through the college

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01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 5: football playoff to the national title for Ohio State against

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01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,600
Speaker 5: Notre Dame, against some of those you know, Tennessee in

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01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 5: the in the first round, big quality offensive lineman, he

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01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 5: is stacking, shedding, making a play on the football. I

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01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 5: think that's why we're seeing some of that for the Bills,

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01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 5: maybe even at thirty, but certainly into round two because

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01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 5: they need a big body. They want to show up

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01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 5: their run defense. They would certainly get both of those

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01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 5: things if they do after Tyleerk will.

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Speaker 2: With somebody like Tyleek Williams, I like to think about

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01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 2: how he fits on Buffalo's defensive line as a whole,

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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 2: because you're not just standing out on an island on

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01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 2: your own. You're in the middle of the defense. And

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01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: what TYLERK Williams offers you, I think fits perfectly next

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01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 2: to Ed Oliver. Let Ed Oliver go and rush the quarterback.

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01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 2: Let TYLERK Williams take on those double teams. Let TYLERK

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01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: Williams be that feisty defensive tackle who's going to free

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01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 2: some things up for your beast next to him at

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01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:34,839
Speaker 2: Oliver to go make plays and go sack the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And traditionally that's what the Bills have liked, from the

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01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,560
Speaker 5: Starlet Tu the Lays to the Jordan Phillips, Quentin Jefferson's

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01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 5: day Kwon Jones, they like that complimentary group at defensive tackle.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of the.

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01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 5: Belief that they could use another pass rusher inside too.

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01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 5: Maybe that's Dwayne Carter. We didn't see a lot from

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01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 5: him in year one, but it was only his rookie season.

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01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 5: But yes, traditionally Sean McDermott has liked that huge, big body.

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01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 4: That helps at oliver.

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01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 5: But I think the other point two is helps keep

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01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 5: the linebackers clean behind them because the Bills don't have

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01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 5: hulking linebackers. That's really not the trend in today's NFL at.

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Speaker 4: Three point thirty.

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Speaker 5: To be able to play two gaps as well as

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01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 5: Tyler Williams does, Terrell Bernard, Dorian Williams, Matt Malano are

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01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 5: suddenly then free to chase down running backs and make

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01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 5: those splash plays near the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see if the Bills decide to

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01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: go with the defensive tackle at some point somewhere in

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Speaker 2: the draft, what type of defensive tackle that's going to be.

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01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:32,799
Speaker 2: Is that gonna be a space eater like a TYLERK

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01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 2: Williams or is that going to be more like a

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01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 2: pass rusher like a Derek Carmon, who we've seen can

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01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 2: do a little bit of both. We're going to take

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Speaker 2: one Bill's Live. We just had Greg co Cell on

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Speaker 2: at our two o'clock hour to discuss a bunch of

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Speaker 2: running backs and he said he's got something coming out

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Speaker 2: from the thirty third team. Well it is out. If

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Speaker 3: So go check that out.

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Speaker 2: Today as everybody is preparing for the NFL Draft just

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Speaker 2: days away. We want to go to the tweet sheets

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Speaker 2: since we haven't hit that yet, and open up.

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Speaker 2: let's go with first from Jason Spinner. Do you think

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Speaker 2: a draft weekend trade for a veteran edge rusher could happen?

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01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:54,640
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

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01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 5: I don't think anything is off the table when it

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01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 5: comes to Brandon Bean. And that is part of why

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01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 5: he's the best GM in the NFL, that he will

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01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:05,919
Speaker 5: address any needs on the roster by any means necessary.

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01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 5: Trey Hendrickson still out there, Michael Parsons doesn't have a deal,

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01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 5: even TJ Watt, so I don't think that's super likely,

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01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 5: but not out of the realm possibility.

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Speaker 2: Andrew North asks, now we know Matt Milano is an

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01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: injury prone player. Now do we wait and see and

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01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 2: hope he doesn't get an injury this season or could

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01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 2: we possibly use him as a trade candidate to move

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01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 2: up in the draft.

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts.

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Speaker 5: I think at this point in Milano's career it's unlikely

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01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 5: that he'd be able to fetch much in a trade anyway,

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01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 5: and the Bills are pretty loaded behind him with TERRYL Bernard,

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01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 5: Dorian Williams, Joe and Drees, and they have a lot

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01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 5: of other linebackers, so I don't know if they'll really

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01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 5: address anything with the linebacker spot this weekend.

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01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Matt Milano could have a great next

1847
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 2: season as he's coming off of an injury where he

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Speaker 2: has a healthy offseason. That's finally, care we want to

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Speaker 2: thank you for tuning into one Bills Live We will

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Speaker 2: see you guys on Monday from one to three