Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to this week's episode of Let's Be Real.
Speaker 1: I love this episode so much. You have no idea
Speaker 1: we have Tight mccrayon this week. She is the absolute sweetest.
Speaker 1: I have been a huge fan of your music for
Speaker 1: so long, but not just because she's an incredible singer,
Speaker 1: but because of the perspective she brings to her music
Speaker 1: and how honest she is. And I knew going into
Speaker 1: it we would have a really interesting conversation, but I
Speaker 1: didn't expect it to be this incredible. We recorded this
Speaker 1: episode a few weeks ago, right when she was preparing
Speaker 1: to perform at the European Music Awards, and that's where
Speaker 1: we started our conversation. Well, first of Alitate, it so
Speaker 1: nice to meet you. I'm such a big fan of
Speaker 1: your music, and I'm so excited that we get to
Speaker 1: talk too. I know you're just rehearsing for the European
Speaker 1: Music Awards. How is that going? That's amazing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just really excited to perform an award show. Like fully, um,
Speaker 1: I did the VMA like pre show, which was really
Speaker 1: really cool, but even the fact that I'm doing the
Speaker 1: real show, I'm just really excited and there's going to
Speaker 1: be dancers, So it's been the rousal process has been
Speaker 1: really fun. So what is that whole process like for
Speaker 1: people who don't know, because you know, for a lot
Speaker 1: of people they just see the performance. It's a lot
Speaker 1: that goes into it. Yeah, there's a lot of dance rehearsals,
Speaker 1: especially for this one. Like the worst part, the hardest
Speaker 1: part is singing and dancing. I did not realize how
Speaker 1: much cardio it was. Literally it is so hard. I've
Speaker 1: never even more than I think about it. That just
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like I've I've done it before, but it's
Speaker 1: been like easier songs to sing, and you know, I
Speaker 1: just like, over the past like a couple of months,
Speaker 1: I've really had to figure out how to sing you
Speaker 1: rugby first, or really emotional valid to like intense movements.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely it's definitely hard. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: I was so excited to have you on my podcast
Speaker 1: is because I feel like we're very similar in the
Speaker 1: sense that we're trying. I'm eighteen year seventeen, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know the struggle of just like trying to
Speaker 1: balance everything with a social life, of work, career at school, career, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to find tips for that. How are
Speaker 1: you doing with all of that? It's so hard. I
Speaker 1: don't think people realize how hard it is. It's so hard,
Speaker 1: and I think like the hardest part is you have
Speaker 1: to have a balance, otherwise you'll go mentally insane. The fact,
Speaker 1: like if you don't have a social life, you'll feel
Speaker 1: like a loner and you'll get really like I've gotten
Speaker 1: into like dark places that I'm like, I am never
Speaker 1: going back to that, because you know, you get so
Speaker 1: focused on your work and so focused on like these
Speaker 1: are my goals is what I want to do? How
Speaker 1: am I going to shape my future? That you totally
Speaker 1: forget to live in the present moment um. That happens
Speaker 1: a lot to me, and I think I've really been trying,
Speaker 1: especially over the pandemic, although I haven't been able to
Speaker 1: see that many people just you know, enjoy the little
Speaker 1: moments and the little things. Uh. And then again, like
Speaker 1: balancing school is just impossible. I think time management is key.
Speaker 1: Time management and self advocacy or like the two things
Speaker 1: that have saved me. Are you senior? I'm finishing, yeah,
Speaker 1: grade twelve, and it's been great and candidate's great. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's I'm also terrible at time management. Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's probably becrastinating in time management and my worst things
Speaker 1: and organization. It's so hard. I can't I'm terrible. It's
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like I'll be in
Speaker 1: my statistics class, like doing my homework, and then I'll
Speaker 1: get like, oh wait, podcast, I have to do this,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh wait, okay, back to statistics. It's
Speaker 1: this trying to like compartmentalize. How do you how are
Speaker 1: you coping with that? Well? The hardest thing too, is
Speaker 1: like I'm sure, like you understand, you get one email
Speaker 1: about your work or you get one text message, and
Speaker 1: it's like your whole focus completely gets out of the
Speaker 1: zone of school that you don't want to be doing exactly,
Speaker 1: and you're just you get creative, you get you know,
Speaker 1: you think about ideas, you start getting inspired, and you're
Speaker 1: like this is a totally wrong place and time to
Speaker 1: do this. And it's it's hard because especially like when
Speaker 1: you're in a different moment, sometimes you're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I want to be with my friends, I want to
Speaker 1: do this, But then sometimes you're like I want to
Speaker 1: work on my career, like it's it's hard to find
Speaker 1: a balance, and something that I've definitely been learning to
Speaker 1: find is who are there for the right reasons? Who
Speaker 1: want to hear about all of that? I know you've
Speaker 1: written songs about it, but what is what is your
Speaker 1: experience been like trying to find true friends, especially balancing everything.
Speaker 1: It's definitely been a process. I feel like I struggled
Speaker 1: a lot more with this when I was younger, and
Speaker 1: I think it's because right now, I just I'm very
Speaker 1: good at trusting my intuition about things and people, and
Speaker 1: I can keep people at a distance or I can
Speaker 1: make people come close to me. And I think it's
Speaker 1: just a thing that I've had to deal with for
Speaker 1: a really long time, um because I've always been dancing,
Speaker 1: and I've always been competing, and I come back for
Speaker 1: two days and try to hang out friends, and it
Speaker 1: was like always a struggle for me. Um So I
Speaker 1: definitely was a loner for a lot of my life.
Speaker 1: And then I, you know, I I definitely had to
Speaker 1: figure out who my circle was and who I actually
Speaker 1: wanted to spend time on. And then to add on
Speaker 1: to that, it's also to be like who's there for
Speaker 1: the right reason. Who wants to be there to support
Speaker 1: you as a person that you're high in your lows
Speaker 1: and not just when you're at your high, at your success.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. And you can usually tell like where
Speaker 1: why are people texting me, like right after I do
Speaker 1: this performance? Or why are people texting me after I
Speaker 1: did this? Like there's certain things that you like, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing nothing, It's so obvious. It is obvious,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people are oblivious to that,
Speaker 1: but it's it is pretty obvious if you actually think
Speaker 1: about it. I've had some sneaky experiences where people try
Speaker 1: and like sneak in and then yeah, it's a process.
Speaker 1: And I think it's just about you know, trusting your
Speaker 1: gut and trusting who's there all the time, not just
Speaker 1: part of the time, and um, you know who sticks
Speaker 1: around and like cut out toxic people. That's the main
Speaker 1: thing that I've learned, Like you don't need it. It's
Speaker 1: just weighing you down. And I feel like friendship, when
Speaker 1: friendships kind of like distance themselves or get toxic, that
Speaker 1: can be so much worth than an actual relationship like
Speaker 1: a breakup. That's oh my god, that's literally the thing.
Speaker 1: So the biggest thing about my songs is that I've
Speaker 1: actually never gone through like a huge heartbreak. I've only
Speaker 1: been in talking stages, which is the worst annoying just
Speaker 1: like wat, I hate it um. And then friends friend
Speaker 1: breakups and going through like weird drama with your friends
Speaker 1: is probably the most emotionally draining process ever exactly, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's someone that you can fight, and it's in
Speaker 1: all aspects, not just in a relationship. And I think,
Speaker 1: but you know when it's time to let that go
Speaker 1: and not hold on to it. I think that's that's
Speaker 1: so important, But it's hard to find that time when
Speaker 1: you really love them. How how is senior year been? Though?
Speaker 1: Have you? Are you guys online? Um? So I'm doing online.
Speaker 1: I only have two classes left, thank god, which is
Speaker 1: what class is only social in English. So it's pretty
Speaker 1: chill um like right now, even though I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get it all done before December. Um, because it's literally over.
Speaker 1: The pandemic probably been the busiest time of my entire
Speaker 1: life with work, and so I don't I don't even
Speaker 1: know what's going on half the time. I'm just all
Speaker 1: over the place right now, are you excited to be
Speaker 1: done with high school. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to literally focus on important things, Like
Speaker 1: I'm not the school is important, stay in stay in school. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think like the biggest thing is usually a
Speaker 1: lot of my time that I want to be spent
Speaker 1: on creative things or focusing on, you know, things that
Speaker 1: really get me excited about my career. You know, I
Speaker 1: can't do because I'm like, all right, gotta gotta garding
Speaker 1: out some schoolwork and gotta focus on things that I'm
Speaker 1: really not passionate about whatsoever. And that's a really annoying
Speaker 1: thing to deal with. It's really frustrating to try and
Speaker 1: just hustle through that. But also like while trying to
Speaker 1: learn something and turn that passion into something. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a weird balance. It's all hard, for sure. Do you
Speaker 1: know what you want to do after? Are you going
Speaker 1: to take a gap year? You're just gonna work on
Speaker 1: your career? You can stay in Canada? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I mean, right right now, I'm I'm just planning on
Speaker 1: taking I mean as soon as I get out of school.
Speaker 1: They although, like my my managers and stuff were like
Speaker 1: we need to get out of school so you can
Speaker 1: just start actually doing things because I have to hold
Speaker 1: off like writing sessions and some performances and some like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things like you're gonna go full
Speaker 1: full force, no holding back, get ready world. So I
Speaker 1: know you've been writing for a really long time, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know finding an outlet in high school
Speaker 1: is so key if you're in high school, find something
Speaker 1: to express yourself with. And I know writing has been
Speaker 1: that for you. Has there ever been moments when you're
Speaker 1: writing that you decide not to release something because you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: these people will know what it is, because this is
Speaker 1: what's happening now. I mean I read a lot of
Speaker 1: songs and I think, uh, like how many songs, Like
Speaker 1: I probably have about fifty songs that I have not released. Wow,
Speaker 1: like a lot. And you know, I think there's just
Speaker 1: like the choice between like what are people going to
Speaker 1: relate to? What's too personal? Because there's some things that
Speaker 1: you just like sound like a crazy person. You know,
Speaker 1: you got to get that out sometimes. But you know
Speaker 1: there's also like the line it's therapy. Yeah, it's therapy.
Speaker 1: It's like writing in your diary and it's I think
Speaker 1: you don't want to expose yourself too much. But then again,
Speaker 1: my songs are like Hella vulnerable, So I don't really
Speaker 1: feel like I hold a law back, no, but I
Speaker 1: mean it is knowing it's a piece of art, but
Speaker 1: it's also like your life and I have the world
Speaker 1: have an opinion on that. That's also really staring vulnerable
Speaker 1: At the same time, was that when you release your
Speaker 1: first song and it was like your first personal song
Speaker 1: that was just like so true to you. What was
Speaker 1: that feeling like? Did it feel like someone was reading
Speaker 1: your diary or was it just like, Okay, here it is,
Speaker 1: I just want you to take it and listen. Well,
Speaker 1: so I first started my YouTube channel. I started posting
Speaker 1: original songs every Friday, and at the time, that's so impressed.
Speaker 1: It was to write every week. It was a hustle,
Speaker 1: but know I think I posted every single week and
Speaker 1: obviously all the YouTube comments were positive. But I was
Speaker 1: still not at school at the time, and I went
Speaker 1: to a public school, like right in the middle of that,
Speaker 1: smack in the middle, and I remember people started talking
Speaker 1: to me about it, and I started getting real and
Speaker 1: secure because I was like, people know way too much
Speaker 1: about me. And people know way too much about this
Speaker 1: other side that I don't necessarily know if I want
Speaker 1: them to yet, you know, I know exactly. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: I was in eighth grade, i started I said, that's
Speaker 1: when I started my work, and I was at a
Speaker 1: new school, and people found all of it and so
Speaker 1: they would repost it on which is really cool, but
Speaker 1: it made me. It made you so self conscious because
Speaker 1: though it's kind of like take something that you're proud of,
Speaker 1: but then they twisted into their own totally way to
Speaker 1: entertain themselves. And also like it's it's I'm my work
Speaker 1: self is so different from my social self. Literally when
Speaker 1: I when I'm writing and I'm working and I'm in
Speaker 1: a room full of adults, it's like focused tate, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm completely your profess sfessional. And then when I'm
Speaker 1: with my friends, it's like laughy tay child, like don't
Speaker 1: don't really think about anything because it's like where I relax.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's so weird because sometimes
Speaker 1: people don't understand the two lives leave the balance, and
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I've had them on time that
Speaker 1: you're just like living to different worlds. Okay, get this
Speaker 1: week it's quick sidetrack firm. One of my college applications,
Speaker 1: want you have to look a bunch of questions. One
Speaker 1: of them is if you have a theme song of
Speaker 1: your life, what would it be? And I said best
Speaker 1: of both worlds from him, and I think that's the
Speaker 1: best one I could have done. But it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's like we said, it's that hard time going back
Speaker 1: and forth between all of that. Have you ever been
Speaker 1: faced with being in a room full of adults but
Speaker 1: you also have your ideas but they don't take you
Speaker 1: as seriously because of your age. That happened a lot
Speaker 1: at the beginning. Um. You know, when I first started
Speaker 1: getting into the writing sessions, I was thirteen, and you
Speaker 1: go into this room full of like four or five
Speaker 1: three how many people a professional writers who do this
Speaker 1: as their job every single day for new artists, And
Speaker 1: you know, at first, I was like, all I've been
Speaker 1: doing is writing original songs by myself, no help. Um.
Speaker 1: And I remember first getting into these sessions and it
Speaker 1: was like, uh that wait, Like I was like trying
Speaker 1: to say something, but it would just completely ignore my
Speaker 1: ideas because there was no relevance to like what I
Speaker 1: was saying where even when I was thirteen, I was
Speaker 1: a super old soul and I had a lot to
Speaker 1: say um. And it wasn't until like I started, you know,
Speaker 1: actually finding my people who trust in my opinion, not
Speaker 1: only UM. And then when I started releasing more and
Speaker 1: more songs, people obviously now have way more respect for
Speaker 1: me um, probably just because I'm a little older. But
Speaker 1: still it's the worst feeling ever, because it's not like
Speaker 1: my opinion is any less valid than than yours because
Speaker 1: of my age. It's it's hard when you want to
Speaker 1: do so much at such a young age and you
Speaker 1: want to make a difference, but it's it's having people
Speaker 1: take you seriously like you're I have some thoughts that
Speaker 1: are actually pretty smart if you actually listen to maybe,
Speaker 1: And I think that's also like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that don't understand the thing, like age is just
Speaker 1: a number because people stereotype seventeen year olds as this
Speaker 1: type of seventeen year old, whereas like you could have
Speaker 1: a totally different mindset and idea of your life at
Speaker 1: a super young age and be very mature, but they
Speaker 1: didn't actually listen to you. And then I'm sure you
Speaker 1: can relate to this. It's hard to find people that
Speaker 1: are your age though, that have that same type of maturity,
Speaker 1: that like get that that aren't just doing the team stuff,
Speaker 1: which is totally fine. That's finding your it's finding your people,
Speaker 1: but it's hard to find that when you feel like
Speaker 1: you're so much older than you actually are. True, I
Speaker 1: think that sometimes I deal with that with friends a lot.
Speaker 1: Is I feel like, I'm like, why am I having
Speaker 1: a better conversation with the thirty five year old than
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old? It should be the way it
Speaker 1: should be, like we should be connecting, but I'm feeling,
Speaker 1: you know, no connection right here, and I think that's
Speaker 1: just like a different mindset totally. Just to go back,
Speaker 1: you were saying how you wrote a song a week,
Speaker 1: which is so impressive. How long did you do that for?
Speaker 1: Would you say, I probably do that for like a year,
Speaker 1: a year and a half. WHOA like a long time?
Speaker 1: I have so many songs online, so many So what
Speaker 1: is your songwriting process? When you were doing a song
Speaker 1: in a week? How would you would you sit down
Speaker 1: you have a designated time or would it be something
Speaker 1: that you would just think of throughout the week. It
Speaker 1: would usually be. So I'd post on Fridays and usually
Speaker 1: sit down after dance at ten pm on a Thursday,
Speaker 1: may force myself to sit there for like four hours,
Speaker 1: get my piano out, fine chords from a song I
Speaker 1: liked because I've never been taught how to play piano,
Speaker 1: so I just self taught and literally write a song
Speaker 1: and I then post it the next day. It was
Speaker 1: like a lot, but it was like fun for me
Speaker 1: because at the end of the week I needed to
Speaker 1: talk about stuff and I needed to get stuff out,
Speaker 1: so its usually came out really fast. Wow. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that though you procrastinate, you still get it done though.
Speaker 1: That's what they I like to remind people like I
Speaker 1: may procrastinate, but I get it done on time. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. I'll do my homework the last day, but
Speaker 1: I will be good and I'll do it. I'll finish it,
Speaker 1: don't worry, not exactly. Just because we don't do it
Speaker 1: early in the week doesn't mean we don't do it
Speaker 1: on exactly. That That's what I like to think. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I was so hesitant to get TikTok just because
Speaker 1: I was when I was that girl when I was
Speaker 1: twelve on musically, just like on it for way too long,
Speaker 1: trying to do those like hand things and it was bad.
Speaker 1: So of course naturally it was very hesitant to go
Speaker 1: down that TikTok hole. Yeah I did. I don't regret it.
Speaker 1: But it's really interesting and I know that you've been
Speaker 1: had such a big presence on there. Has that inspired
Speaker 1: any music or has that just been like a really
Speaker 1: cool outlet to release your music. I do think it's
Speaker 1: a really smart marketing tool. I think the fact that
Speaker 1: you can put a face to your music and people
Speaker 1: can turn it into whatever they want and interpret it
Speaker 1: however the humanizes you as a person. Does it totally
Speaker 1: puts it face to your songs, And I think, um,
Speaker 1: that was really important to me. Was like I remember
Speaker 1: being the first person to be like, hey, I'm Tate,
Speaker 1: this is my song, this is what I wrote. I
Speaker 1: wrote about this blah blah go you know, and just
Speaker 1: like putting it out there, being like, oh god, why
Speaker 1: did I just post? And um, you know it reacting well,
Speaker 1: And I think that's just like connecting. Like I'm an
Speaker 1: artist who was writing I'm seventeen, and I write about
Speaker 1: things that you can probably relate to because you're going
Speaker 1: through the same thing exactly, and that was like what
Speaker 1: I wanted to do on TikTok and it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's still like I do it for fun. But if
Speaker 1: you know, if I ever want to promo my music,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. It's really cool that people get to
Speaker 1: it's not that filtered side like Instagram is. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like seeing someone as a real person. No, it's real.
Speaker 1: It's like you see real things and real moments and
Speaker 1: funny moments and like, you know, not the post filtered
Speaker 1: you know nothingness of Instagram. Sometimes we have to take
Speaker 1: a quick break, but when we come back, Tate, I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about all things social media,
Speaker 1: how you stayed creative during the pandemic, and your comparisons
Speaker 1: to Billie Eilish. All right, we'll be back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: How have you dealt with having a healthy relationship with
Speaker 1: social media? Because it is hard. It's it's such an
Speaker 1: evan flow. Some days I love it and I won't
Speaker 1: get off of it, and some days I delete every
Speaker 1: single app in my phone. Um, and that's just a
Speaker 1: thing of like there's so many opinions and when you
Speaker 1: put yourself out there there's gonna be people who hate you,
Speaker 1: and I think it's like I've always kind of been
Speaker 1: a people pleaser when I was younger, especially, and I'm
Speaker 1: like the total option now. I think it's just because
Speaker 1: I don't really care, and it's like, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's it's only your opinion that matters,
Speaker 1: and if you like what you're doing and if you
Speaker 1: know in your heart that you're a good person, no
Speaker 1: one else can tell you otherwise. It's trying to find
Speaker 1: a balance. I feel like I saw the social dilemma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: aaked me out. I've turned off all of my notifications
Speaker 1: on my apps just like yeah, which it's helped, but
Speaker 1: it's so anxiety provoking for me, where I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to find that like Okay, well I'm using this,
Speaker 1: I don't need it. No. I I couldn't finish that documentary.
Speaker 1: I had an anxiety attack, and I think that was
Speaker 1: just because like it's too real. I was literally like,
Speaker 1: what am I doing? My whole life is on social
Speaker 1: media and I can't like and I'm literally continuing to
Speaker 1: put myself out there in front of who knows who,
Speaker 1: and my life is so vulnerable. Um, and that's like
Speaker 1: my job. And it's terrifying because literally I don't know
Speaker 1: how it's going to get. Obviously, technology is going to
Speaker 1: grow and grow, and I'm still a super vulnerable person
Speaker 1: in the public eye and anyone could click on my
Speaker 1: profile any second and make their own opinion about me exactly,
Speaker 1: and you can. It's scary how much you can learn.
Speaker 1: I still have the eight plus but and I don't
Speaker 1: want to get rid of my home button. I'm like,
Speaker 1: because I know like it's going to go of the
Speaker 1: face I d and I've had this for four years now,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's those things where it's like I'm
Speaker 1: scared to where technology is going to advance too. I
Speaker 1: think it's quite quite terrifying. Actually yeah, um So, speaking
Speaker 1: of TikTok, he posted this TikTok just like a day
Speaker 1: in your life, and I was like, man, this is
Speaker 1: what people don't see. Just like it's draining to be
Speaker 1: a student to work full time. So just like, how
Speaker 1: are you doing mentally? Because I feel like that's a
Speaker 1: question that's not asked enough. It's a new feeling every day.
Speaker 1: I would say, five days ago, I mean I was
Speaker 1: it was that type of month I mean I was
Speaker 1: a little crazy emotional, and I had a million b
Speaker 1: jillion things to do that day and the next couple
Speaker 1: of days, and I was behind my school work. Um,
Speaker 1: I needed to film and record a million things. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was in the process of
Speaker 1: editing this video and making sure that everything was perfect
Speaker 1: and giving my notes back, and I was, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like literally overwhelmed to the max. And
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like people never see that on
Speaker 1: social media. First of all, was the fact that I
Speaker 1: literally broke down and that was me last week. That
Speaker 1: was literally mean less disaster. I mean now I'm great. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm like life is awesome. But like that's how it is.
Speaker 1: It's how it is. It changes every day, and I
Speaker 1: feel like you can't be too hard on yourself because
Speaker 1: you never want to get to that point otherwise it
Speaker 1: can be quite very training. Yeah, I think it's so
Speaker 1: interesting and just with your music, what I love about
Speaker 1: it is it's so it's so authentic and true to
Speaker 1: who you are. I know you've had like a lot
Speaker 1: of like Billie Eilish comparisons, but I don't think you're
Speaker 1: like bill Yeah, I think you're like yourself, and I
Speaker 1: think that's the best kind of artist to be, where
Speaker 1: you're not compared to another artist, but you are your
Speaker 1: own artists and that's how you stand out. Um. Is
Speaker 1: there a certain song that you've written that has had
Speaker 1: the most feedback of leg oh my goodness, that's me
Speaker 1: from your fans. Um. I think a lot of my
Speaker 1: YouTube songs that because they were like really intimate. But
Speaker 1: I do think that a lot of people related to
Speaker 1: you broke me first, and I think like that. I
Speaker 1: know when a song I think will relate to like
Speaker 1: my listeners, one, I will put it on at dree
Speaker 1: in the morning when I'm driving around and cry. You
Speaker 1: know that's when you know when it's like stoo real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But then it's like that's when it's good because you
Speaker 1: know that it's like completely raw feelings and not just
Speaker 1: a songwriter method of getting getting a song out. And
Speaker 1: I feel like you should know this. One of my
Speaker 1: good friends she's going through a breakup and she found
Speaker 1: that song and I told her I was talking to
Speaker 1: she goes, please tell her that she knows me more
Speaker 1: than I know my right now, because it's it's that's
Speaker 1: what music does, which I think is so crazy that
Speaker 1: we can all have that kind of experience. Um, do
Speaker 1: you have that own experience with your music? Because I
Speaker 1: know you said it's you broke me first. You've never
Speaker 1: been through a heartbreak or is it more of just
Speaker 1: like you relate from another aspective when you're writing, and
Speaker 1: you relate to it but not as much. Well, I
Speaker 1: haven't been through a huge heartbreak in a real relationship,
Speaker 1: but I mean I've been through plenty of those talking phases,
Speaker 1: the annoying ones we're saying it sucks, where those literally
Speaker 1: put way more of a toll on you than anything else.
Speaker 1: It's so draining and I'm I can't it's because it's
Speaker 1: it's the unknown, like you don't know what there could
Speaker 1: have been, And it's like when you're in a relationship,
Speaker 1: you're like every this is everything that happened, and I'm
Speaker 1: just completely like, this is what we were and if
Speaker 1: it didn't work out, it didn't work out. But in
Speaker 1: one of those talking phases where you never really get
Speaker 1: to like the full dating phase, you're just like thinking
Speaker 1: and wondering and like there's there's never really like you
Speaker 1: can't pinpoint what was wrong with you, And that's exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's where it's like plays with your mind a lot.
Speaker 1: It really isn't. It's also when it's like there's no structure,
Speaker 1: like I like to know things. I like commitment, I
Speaker 1: want I like then commitment. I just want to know,
Speaker 1: like you're in great, if you're out great, just let
Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's it's hard, especially during
Speaker 1: a panic. I'm sure you get this to like working,
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time to do that,
Speaker 1: so it's hard to again find that balance with all
Speaker 1: of that and then also have someone that's there for
Speaker 1: the right reasons. It's crazy because all my songs I
Speaker 1: think I've written about like I can't even describe where
Speaker 1: I pulled the emotion from, but it's there. And I
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, I don't even know who I wrote
Speaker 1: that about, but I know I wrote it about like
Speaker 1: this specific event in this specific situation, and I felt
Speaker 1: really shitty here and I blew out like a million
Speaker 1: different things and I kind of just put it into
Speaker 1: a song and then it feels super real. And then
Speaker 1: if I ever come to a point in my life
Speaker 1: where I feel that again, it hits so hard. I
Speaker 1: think that's kind of even better, it's not like you're
Speaker 1: getting it from one situation. You're just you're taking it
Speaker 1: from your feelings and not from like one thing in
Speaker 1: the moment that's making you feel this way. It's more
Speaker 1: of this ongoing process. So when you're just when a
Speaker 1: song releases, because I've been so fascinated by this on
Speaker 1: like a release day of a song. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: don't think people realize is the days can be like
Speaker 1: it's not like a party every day. You're still doing work,
Speaker 1: You're still like having your day go on. What is
Speaker 1: your general process of like when a song comes out
Speaker 1: that day? Is it social media the entire time? Is
Speaker 1: it work? Is it school work? Is it a party?
Speaker 1: What is it? This is definitely not a party. Literally,
Speaker 1: let my last release date walk downstairs, got a little
Speaker 1: paddle my back for my dad as he was going
Speaker 1: to go grab his coffee. Hey, good release date date.
Speaker 1: I think that really sit down, homework for four hours,
Speaker 1: workout training, do a little chat with my fans, the
Speaker 1: video releases, and then dad'saw all night and then the
Speaker 1: end of the day it's like a wrap up of
Speaker 1: stats and what went wrong and what went right. I
Speaker 1: find that so interesting because people don't talk about that. No,
Speaker 1: it's very different than people might expect it to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a party for I mean, I
Speaker 1: think some people like really partied up with like should
Speaker 1: and stuff, but that's not me. It's literally just normal
Speaker 1: day with extra stress. First of all, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love lie like La to meet because it's so
Speaker 1: just the music video's sick, thank you. When you're creating
Speaker 1: a music video, do you come up with the choreography?
Speaker 1: And how long does it generally take for that whole
Speaker 1: music video to come together? So I have this one
Speaker 1: quog for a name, Michelle Dolly. I've been working with
Speaker 1: her since I was nine. She's like my person. I've
Speaker 1: known her for forever. She lives in l A but
Speaker 1: was from Calgary, so we have that connection. She's like
Speaker 1: my sister. I love her and she choographs. Me and
Speaker 1: her do like a collaboration for like every single video
Speaker 1: the choographed together, and I love that. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know I think, I mean I'm pretty like quick. I
Speaker 1: usually either to like learn it on the spot or
Speaker 1: a couple of hours before. Um, so it's just like
Speaker 1: a one day process. That's so impressive. How often do
Speaker 1: I know you competed for a while. How often in
Speaker 1: do you dance now? Is it still every day? Every day?
Speaker 1: And dance at nighttime for like three hours? Four hours?
Speaker 1: How How sore is your body right now as we're
Speaker 1: recording this, it's I just came back from the workout,
Speaker 1: so it's so sore. Alright, Tate, we have to take
Speaker 1: one more quick break. But when we come back, I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about your future goals as
Speaker 1: an artist and what's to come for We'll be back
Speaker 1: and we're back. Congratulations again for just selling out like
Speaker 1: your European tour in like a week. That's insane. What
Speaker 1: are you most excited for? And what is your dream venue?
Speaker 1: Dream venue would be like Madison Square Garden. That's manifest it.
Speaker 1: Let's put it out on the universe Mass Square Garden. God. Um, definitely,
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to see people again. I think I'm getting,
Speaker 1: you know, so sick of being on my piano and
Speaker 1: being in my room. The energy and a crowd when
Speaker 1: you're performing at a concert is undescribable. It's literally the
Speaker 1: most like so much stereotonin in your body, you're literally
Speaker 1: just like I don't even remember it after the after
Speaker 1: the show is done, and it's the best feeling in
Speaker 1: the world, and I just miss it a lot. That
Speaker 1: sounds the thought of just like having that much stereotonin
Speaker 1: just because we've been in a pandemic for so long
Speaker 1: sounds like so strange. You're so you're a songwriter, You're
Speaker 1: really good with your words. If you had to like
Speaker 1: describe just the feeling, how would you describe it? I
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is you. Like I think because
Speaker 1: I walked into my last tour, like at first, I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, guys, why are we going on tour.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna no one's gonna buy tickets, no one's
Speaker 1: gonna show up. And then no one's gonna know the words,
Speaker 1: and it happened. It was crazy to me when the
Speaker 1: total opposite thing happened. I literally just felt so overwhelmed
Speaker 1: with love and support, and you know, every single person
Speaker 1: in the crowd knew the lyrics, so it was just
Speaker 1: like screaming at me at just so so happy, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of like a you go
Speaker 1: through a lot of emotions as a teenager, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I work so hard and I'm spending so many hours
Speaker 1: for what you get on stage. You're like this, honestly,
Speaker 1: that's so much better than going into it thinking you're
Speaker 1: gonna get all of that and then get none of that.
Speaker 1: So like low expectations that it saves me every time. Seriously,
Speaker 1: I like to ask this sometimes because I get interesting answers.
Speaker 1: Would you ever be on Broadway? See? I wanted to
Speaker 1: be on Broadway for the longest time. When I was younger.
Speaker 1: It always be Hey, I'm Kate and one day You're
Speaker 1: going to see me on Broadway. That was my line.
Speaker 1: That was literally my line. Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: my bio. I'm being serious. It was my YouTube bio
Speaker 1: for solid five years. That's incredible. I has to change it.
Speaker 1: Um wow. I kind of like that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I always wanted to be on Broadway, and then I
Speaker 1: actually like realized that the repetition of like Broadway, I
Speaker 1: think it's incredible, but I would just I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm the type of person to be stuck on one
Speaker 1: stage for so long songs, same songs, you know. I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go like super fast, super quick, like
Speaker 1: always ready to do a new thing and super creative.
Speaker 1: So I think I would get like a little um,
Speaker 1: we get a little bit repetitive, But I mean some
Speaker 1: people are rock at it and can kill it every
Speaker 1: single night and make it look like they've never done
Speaker 1: it before. Do you have a dream broad or like
Speaker 1: favorite Broadway show that you've seen. I saw Hamilton's and
Speaker 1: it was amazing. It's incredible. It's definitely my favorite show
Speaker 1: of all time. And speaking of Hamilton's, a main theme
Speaker 1: throughout the show is legacy. What would you want your legacy? dB?
Speaker 1: What do you want to be known for as an artist? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure at the end of
Speaker 1: the day that everything I said was real and everything
Speaker 1: I said I wanted to say. I think there's so
Speaker 1: many people who tell you what's right and what's wrong
Speaker 1: and everything you should be doing. There's a step by
Speaker 1: step process of how to be successful, and I think
Speaker 1: it's all bullshit. I do. I literally think that I've
Speaker 1: seen this TikTok's. You literally need to be your own
Speaker 1: person and you need to be proud of yourself. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, if I hate a song,
Speaker 1: I'm always going to hate that song like it's just
Speaker 1: a thing. If I and that's why I like writing
Speaker 1: all my song because it's all my opinion in my ear.
Speaker 1: But I've released songs before that I've been like, oh,
Speaker 1: why did I have to release that? Like there was
Speaker 1: no point in that, And I am not proud of
Speaker 1: it anyway, and I don't love it, and I think
Speaker 1: I just never wanna, never want to feel like that
Speaker 1: because it's at the end of the day, like no one,
Speaker 1: no one really cares. It's everyone has their own lives
Speaker 1: to figure out, and everyone has their own lives to live.
Speaker 1: You're just like a little a little spec So I
Speaker 1: mean that's completely true. Is there is there anything coming
Speaker 1: up that we can look forward to? Because I know
Speaker 1: you just release a single, but is there is there
Speaker 1: anything else you can you can talk about. I'll be
Speaker 1: releasing hopefully a new single within the next month, and
Speaker 1: then in the new year, have a couple of collapse,
Speaker 1: which I'm very excited about, and then honestly just like
Speaker 1: rolling out all that I've been writing and putting out
Speaker 1: singles so manifesting it will be a great year. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna be was just a rough year. We'll get
Speaker 1: over it. It's almost done. It's almost done, and you
Speaker 1: know what in we can maybe meet each other in
Speaker 1: person instead of doing this virtually, we can meet more music.
Speaker 1: I think that's what's going to happen perfect. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll we'll put it out into the universe, do it.
Speaker 1: Another thing that I'm doing for my podcast is that
Speaker 1: I feel, like many others, I've been feeling very helpless.
Speaker 1: UM and so this year, for this season, I want
Speaker 1: to have an artist promote charity that they're passionate about. UM.
Speaker 1: Is there any charity that you've worked with or that
Speaker 1: you love that you want to talk about. It's funny
Speaker 1: because I'm just doing this thing where every month I'm
Speaker 1: doing like a new charity for YouTube. I'll sing a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of live songs on my piano and I'll
Speaker 1: pick a charity if there's like this live stream thing. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still trying to figure out what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do for the month of November, but I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for like either mental health awareness or
Speaker 1: cancer research. I mean, I'm like it was a big
Speaker 1: part in my family. My mom's mom died of cancer,
Speaker 1: so I am always always up to support cancer research
Speaker 1: for sure. So I will have We'll find you'll send
Speaker 1: us an organization and we can promote it and the
Speaker 1: episodes out. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank
Speaker 1: you amazing. All Right, you guys, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for listening to this week's episode of the Let's Be
Speaker 1: Real Podcast. If you haven't already, please hit subscribe, leave
Speaker 1: a comment if you want. I'd love to hear your feedback.
Speaker 1: And don't forget to follow me on Instagram at it
Speaker 1: Sammy J. That's I T S S A M M
Speaker 1: Y j A y E. And don't forget to follow
Speaker 1: Tate McRae on all of her socials Instagram, TikTok Twitter
Speaker 1: is that tat mcgrae, And don't forget to visit my
Speaker 1: instagram because I will have a link to the charity
Speaker 1: that we talked about, so you can go check it out.
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, I'll see you next week and
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the next episode. Bye.