1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to this week's episode of Let's Be Real. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: I love this episode so much. You have no idea 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: we have Tight mccrayon this week. She is the absolute sweetest. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: I have been a huge fan of your music for 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: so long, but not just because she's an incredible singer, 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: but because of the perspective she brings to her music 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: and how honest she is. And I knew going into 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: it we would have a really interesting conversation, but I 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: didn't expect it to be this incredible. We recorded this 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: episode a few weeks ago, right when she was preparing 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: to perform at the European Music Awards, and that's where 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: we started our conversation. Well, first of Alitate, it so 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: nice to meet you. I'm such a big fan of 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: your music, and I'm so excited that we get to 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: talk too. I know you're just rehearsing for the European 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: Music Awards. How is that going? That's amazing. I mean, 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm just really excited to perform an award show. Like fully, um, 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: I did the VMA like pre show, which was really 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: really cool, but even the fact that I'm doing the 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: real show, I'm just really excited and there's going to 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: be dancers, So it's been the rousal process has been 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: really fun. So what is that whole process like for 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: people who don't know, because you know, for a lot 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: of people they just see the performance. It's a lot 25 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: that goes into it. Yeah, there's a lot of dance rehearsals, 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: especially for this one. Like the worst part, the hardest 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: part is singing and dancing. I did not realize how 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: much cardio it was. Literally it is so hard. I've 29 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: never even more than I think about it. That just 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like I've I've done it before, but it's 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: been like easier songs to sing, and you know, I 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: just like, over the past like a couple of months, 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I've really had to figure out how to sing you 34 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: rugby first, or really emotional valid to like intense movements. 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: So it's definitely it's definitely hard. One of the reasons 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: I was so excited to have you on my podcast 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: is because I feel like we're very similar in the 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: sense that we're trying. I'm eighteen year seventeen, right, Yeah, 39 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: so you know the struggle of just like trying to 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: balance everything with a social life, of work, career at school, career, yes, 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to find tips for that. How are 42 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: you doing with all of that? It's so hard. I 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: don't think people realize how hard it is. It's so hard, 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: and I think like the hardest part is you have 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: to have a balance, otherwise you'll go mentally insane. The fact, 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: like if you don't have a social life, you'll feel 47 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: like a loner and you'll get really like I've gotten 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: into like dark places that I'm like, I am never 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: going back to that, because you know, you get so 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: focused on your work and so focused on like these 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: are my goals is what I want to do? How 52 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: am I going to shape my future? That you totally 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: forget to live in the present moment um. That happens 54 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: a lot to me, and I think I've really been trying, 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: especially over the pandemic, although I haven't been able to 56 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: see that many people just you know, enjoy the little 57 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: moments and the little things. Uh. And then again, like 58 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: balancing school is just impossible. I think time management is key. 59 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Time management and self advocacy or like the two things 60 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 1: that have saved me. Are you senior? I'm finishing, yeah, 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: grade twelve, and it's been great and candidate's great. Yeah, no, 62 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: it's I'm also terrible at time management. Like I'm like, 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: that's probably becrastinating in time management and my worst things 64 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: and organization. It's so hard. I can't I'm terrible. It's 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like I'll be in 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: my statistics class, like doing my homework, and then I'll 67 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: get like, oh wait, podcast, I have to do this, 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh wait, okay, back to statistics. It's 69 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: this trying to like compartmentalize. How do you how are 70 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: you coping with that? Well? The hardest thing too, is 71 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: like I'm sure, like you understand, you get one email 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: about your work or you get one text message, and 73 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: it's like your whole focus completely gets out of the 74 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: zone of school that you don't want to be doing exactly, 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: and you're just you get creative, you get you know, 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: you think about ideas, you start getting inspired, and you're 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: like this is a totally wrong place and time to 78 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: do this. And it's it's hard because especially like when 79 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: you're in a different moment, sometimes you're just like, oh, 80 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: I want to be with my friends, I want to 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: do this, But then sometimes you're like I want to 82 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: work on my career, like it's it's hard to find 83 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: a balance, and something that I've definitely been learning to 84 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: find is who are there for the right reasons? Who 85 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: want to hear about all of that? I know you've 86 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: written songs about it, but what is what is your 87 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: experience been like trying to find true friends, especially balancing everything. 88 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: It's definitely been a process. I feel like I struggled 89 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: a lot more with this when I was younger, and 90 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: I think it's because right now, I just I'm very 91 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: good at trusting my intuition about things and people, and 92 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: I can keep people at a distance or I can 93 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: make people come close to me. And I think it's 94 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: just a thing that I've had to deal with for 95 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: a really long time, um because I've always been dancing, 96 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: and I've always been competing, and I come back for 97 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: two days and try to hang out friends, and it 98 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: was like always a struggle for me. Um So I 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: definitely was a loner for a lot of my life. 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: And then I, you know, I I definitely had to 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: figure out who my circle was and who I actually 102 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: wanted to spend time on. And then to add on 103 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: to that, it's also to be like who's there for 104 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: the right reason. Who wants to be there to support 105 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: you as a person that you're high in your lows 106 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: and not just when you're at your high, at your success. 107 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: That's the thing. And you can usually tell like where 108 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: why are people texting me, like right after I do 109 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: this performance? Or why are people texting me after I 110 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: did this? Like there's certain things that you like, you 111 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm doing nothing, It's so obvious. It is obvious, 112 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people are oblivious to that, 113 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: but it's it is pretty obvious if you actually think 114 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: about it. I've had some sneaky experiences where people try 115 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: and like sneak in and then yeah, it's a process. 116 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: And I think it's just about you know, trusting your 117 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: gut and trusting who's there all the time, not just 118 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: part of the time, and um, you know who sticks 119 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: around and like cut out toxic people. That's the main 120 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: thing that I've learned, Like you don't need it. It's 121 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: just weighing you down. And I feel like friendship, when 122 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: friendships kind of like distance themselves or get toxic, that 123 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: can be so much worth than an actual relationship like 124 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: a breakup. That's oh my god, that's literally the thing. 125 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,119 Speaker 1: So the biggest thing about my songs is that I've 126 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: actually never gone through like a huge heartbreak. I've only 127 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: been in talking stages, which is the worst annoying just 128 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: like wat, I hate it um. And then friends friend 129 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: breakups and going through like weird drama with your friends 130 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: is probably the most emotionally draining process ever exactly, yeah, 131 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: because it's someone that you can fight, and it's in 132 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: all aspects, not just in a relationship. And I think, 133 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: but you know when it's time to let that go 134 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: and not hold on to it. I think that's that's 135 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: so important, But it's hard to find that time when 136 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: you really love them. How how is senior year been? Though? 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Have you? Are you guys online? Um? So I'm doing online. 138 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: I only have two classes left, thank god, which is 139 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: what class is only social in English. So it's pretty 140 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: chill um like right now, even though I'm trying to 141 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: get it all done before December. Um, because it's literally over. 142 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 1: The pandemic probably been the busiest time of my entire 143 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: life with work, and so I don't I don't even 144 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: know what's going on half the time. I'm just all 145 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: over the place right now, are you excited to be 146 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: done with high school. Oh my gosh, I'm so excited. 147 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait to literally focus on important things, Like 148 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm not the school is important, stay in stay in school. Um, 149 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: but I think like the biggest thing is usually a 150 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: lot of my time that I want to be spent 151 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: on creative things or focusing on, you know, things that 152 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: really get me excited about my career. You know, I 153 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: can't do because I'm like, all right, gotta gotta garding 154 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: out some schoolwork and gotta focus on things that I'm 155 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: really not passionate about whatsoever. And that's a really annoying 156 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: thing to deal with. It's really frustrating to try and 157 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: just hustle through that. But also like while trying to 158 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: learn something and turn that passion into something. Yeah, it's 159 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: a weird balance. It's all hard, for sure. Do you 160 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: know what you want to do after? Are you going 161 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: to take a gap year? You're just gonna work on 162 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: your career? You can stay in Canada? Yeah, I think so. 163 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, right right now, I'm I'm just planning on 164 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: taking I mean as soon as I get out of school. 165 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: They although, like my my managers and stuff were like 166 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: we need to get out of school so you can 167 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: just start actually doing things because I have to hold 168 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: off like writing sessions and some performances and some like 169 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things like you're gonna go full 170 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: full force, no holding back, get ready world. So I 171 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: know you've been writing for a really long time, and 172 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know finding an outlet in high school 173 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: is so key if you're in high school, find something 174 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: to express yourself with. And I know writing has been 175 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: that for you. Has there ever been moments when you're 176 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: writing that you decide not to release something because you're like, oh, 177 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: these people will know what it is, because this is 178 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: what's happening now. I mean I read a lot of 179 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: songs and I think, uh, like how many songs, Like 180 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: I probably have about fifty songs that I have not released. Wow, 181 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: like a lot. And you know, I think there's just 182 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: like the choice between like what are people going to 183 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: relate to? What's too personal? Because there's some things that 184 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: you just like sound like a crazy person. You know, 185 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: you got to get that out sometimes. But you know 186 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: there's also like the line it's therapy. Yeah, it's therapy. 187 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: It's like writing in your diary and it's I think 188 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: you don't want to expose yourself too much. But then again, 189 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: my songs are like Hella vulnerable, So I don't really 190 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: feel like I hold a law back, no, but I 191 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: mean it is knowing it's a piece of art, but 192 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: it's also like your life and I have the world 193 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,359 Speaker 1: have an opinion on that. That's also really staring vulnerable 194 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: At the same time, was that when you release your 195 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: first song and it was like your first personal song 196 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: that was just like so true to you. What was 197 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that feeling like? Did it feel like someone was reading 198 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: your diary or was it just like, Okay, here it is, 199 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: I just want you to take it and listen. Well, 200 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: so I first started my YouTube channel. I started posting 201 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: original songs every Friday, and at the time, that's so impressed. 202 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: It was to write every week. It was a hustle, 203 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: but know I think I posted every single week and 204 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: obviously all the YouTube comments were positive. But I was 205 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: still not at school at the time, and I went 206 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: to a public school, like right in the middle of that, 207 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: smack in the middle, and I remember people started talking 208 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: to me about it, and I started getting real and 209 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: secure because I was like, people know way too much 210 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: about me. And people know way too much about this 211 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: other side that I don't necessarily know if I want 212 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: them to yet, you know, I know exactly. Yeah, when 213 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: I was in eighth grade, i started I said, that's 214 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: when I started my work, and I was at a 215 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: new school, and people found all of it and so 216 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: they would repost it on which is really cool, but 217 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: it made me. It made you so self conscious because 218 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: though it's kind of like take something that you're proud of, 219 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: but then they twisted into their own totally way to 220 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: entertain themselves. And also like it's it's I'm my work 221 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: self is so different from my social self. Literally when 222 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: I when I'm writing and I'm working and I'm in 223 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: a room full of adults, it's like focused tate, you know, 224 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: like I'm completely your profess sfessional. And then when I'm 225 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: with my friends, it's like laughy tay child, like don't 226 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: don't really think about anything because it's like where I relax. 227 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: But you know, I think it's so weird because sometimes 228 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: people don't understand the two lives leave the balance, and 229 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I've had them on time that 230 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: you're just like living to different worlds. Okay, get this 231 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: week it's quick sidetrack firm. One of my college applications, 232 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: want you have to look a bunch of questions. One 233 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: of them is if you have a theme song of 234 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: your life, what would it be? And I said best 235 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: of both worlds from him, and I think that's the 236 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: best one I could have done. But it's it's you know, 237 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: it's like we said, it's that hard time going back 238 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: and forth between all of that. Have you ever been 239 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: faced with being in a room full of adults but 240 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: you also have your ideas but they don't take you 241 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: as seriously because of your age. That happened a lot 242 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: at the beginning. Um. You know, when I first started 243 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: getting into the writing sessions, I was thirteen, and you 244 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: go into this room full of like four or five 245 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: three how many people a professional writers who do this 246 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: as their job every single day for new artists, And 247 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, at first, I was like, all I've been 248 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: doing is writing original songs by myself, no help. Um. 249 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: And I remember first getting into these sessions and it 250 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: was like, uh that wait, Like I was like trying 251 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: to say something, but it would just completely ignore my 252 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: ideas because there was no relevance to like what I 253 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: was saying where even when I was thirteen, I was 254 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: a super old soul and I had a lot to 255 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: say um. And it wasn't until like I started, you know, 256 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: actually finding my people who trust in my opinion, not 257 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: only UM. And then when I started releasing more and 258 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: more songs, people obviously now have way more respect for 259 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: me um, probably just because I'm a little older. But 260 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: still it's the worst feeling ever, because it's not like 261 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: my opinion is any less valid than than yours because 262 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: of my age. It's it's hard when you want to 263 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: do so much at such a young age and you 264 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: want to make a difference, but it's it's having people 265 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: take you seriously like you're I have some thoughts that 266 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: are actually pretty smart if you actually listen to maybe, 267 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's also like there's a lot of 268 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: people that don't understand the thing, like age is just 269 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: a number because people stereotype seventeen year olds as this 270 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: type of seventeen year old, whereas like you could have 271 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: a totally different mindset and idea of your life at 272 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: a super young age and be very mature, but they 273 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: didn't actually listen to you. And then I'm sure you 274 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: can relate to this. It's hard to find people that 275 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: are your age though, that have that same type of maturity, 276 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: that like get that that aren't just doing the team stuff, 277 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: which is totally fine. That's finding your it's finding your people, 278 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: but it's hard to find that when you feel like 279 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: you're so much older than you actually are. True, I 280 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: think that sometimes I deal with that with friends a lot. 281 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: Is I feel like, I'm like, why am I having 282 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: a better conversation with the thirty five year old than 283 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: a seventeen year old? It should be the way it 284 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: should be, like we should be connecting, but I'm feeling, 285 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, no connection right here, and I think that's 286 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: just like a different mindset totally. Just to go back, 287 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: you were saying how you wrote a song a week, 288 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: which is so impressive. How long did you do that for? 289 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: Would you say, I probably do that for like a year, 290 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: a year and a half. WHOA like a long time? 291 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: I have so many songs online, so many So what 292 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: is your songwriting process? When you were doing a song 293 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: in a week? How would you would you sit down 294 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: you have a designated time or would it be something 295 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: that you would just think of throughout the week. It 296 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: would usually be. So I'd post on Fridays and usually 297 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: sit down after dance at ten pm on a Thursday, 298 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: may force myself to sit there for like four hours, 299 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: get my piano out, fine chords from a song I 300 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: liked because I've never been taught how to play piano, 301 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: so I just self taught and literally write a song 302 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: and I then post it the next day. It was 303 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: like a lot, but it was like fun for me 304 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: because at the end of the week I needed to 305 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: talk about stuff and I needed to get stuff out, 306 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: so its usually came out really fast. Wow. Yeah, I 307 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: mean that though you procrastinate, you still get it done though. 308 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: That's what they I like to remind people like I 309 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: may procrastinate, but I get it done on time. That's 310 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: the thing. I'll do my homework the last day, but 311 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: I will be good and I'll do it. I'll finish it, 312 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: don't worry, not exactly. Just because we don't do it 313 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: early in the week doesn't mean we don't do it 314 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: on exactly. That That's what I like to think. Okay, 315 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: So I was so hesitant to get TikTok just because 316 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: I was when I was that girl when I was 317 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: twelve on musically, just like on it for way too long, 318 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: trying to do those like hand things and it was bad. 319 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: So of course naturally it was very hesitant to go 320 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: down that TikTok hole. Yeah I did. I don't regret it. 321 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: But it's really interesting and I know that you've been 322 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: had such a big presence on there. Has that inspired 323 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: any music or has that just been like a really 324 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: cool outlet to release your music. I do think it's 325 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: a really smart marketing tool. I think the fact that 326 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: you can put a face to your music and people 327 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: can turn it into whatever they want and interpret it 328 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: however the humanizes you as a person. Does it totally 329 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: puts it face to your songs, And I think, um, 330 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: that was really important to me. Was like I remember 331 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: being the first person to be like, hey, I'm Tate, 332 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: this is my song, this is what I wrote. I 333 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: wrote about this blah blah go you know, and just 334 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: like putting it out there, being like, oh god, why 335 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: did I just post? And um, you know it reacting well, 336 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's just like connecting. Like I'm an 337 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: artist who was writing I'm seventeen, and I write about 338 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: things that you can probably relate to because you're going 339 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: through the same thing exactly, and that was like what 340 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to do on TikTok and it's I mean, 341 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: it's still like I do it for fun. But if 342 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, if I ever want to promo my music, 343 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: I'll do it. It's really cool that people get to 344 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: it's not that filtered side like Instagram is. Yeah, it's 345 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: like seeing someone as a real person. No, it's real. 346 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: It's like you see real things and real moments and 347 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: funny moments and like, you know, not the post filtered 348 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: you know nothingness of Instagram. Sometimes we have to take 349 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: a quick break, but when we come back, Tate, I 350 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about all things social media, 351 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: how you stayed creative during the pandemic, and your comparisons 352 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to Billie Eilish. All right, we'll be back, and we're back. 353 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: How have you dealt with having a healthy relationship with 354 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: social media? Because it is hard. It's it's such an 355 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: evan flow. Some days I love it and I won't 356 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: get off of it, and some days I delete every 357 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: single app in my phone. Um, and that's just a 358 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 1: thing of like there's so many opinions and when you 359 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: put yourself out there there's gonna be people who hate you, 360 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: and I think it's like I've always kind of been 361 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: a people pleaser when I was younger, especially, and I'm 362 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: like the total option now. I think it's just because 363 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't really care, and it's like, at the end 364 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: of the day, it's it's only your opinion that matters, 365 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: and if you like what you're doing and if you 366 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: know in your heart that you're a good person, no 367 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: one else can tell you otherwise. It's trying to find 368 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: a balance. I feel like I saw the social dilemma. Yeah, 369 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: aaked me out. I've turned off all of my notifications 370 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: on my apps just like yeah, which it's helped, but 371 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: it's so anxiety provoking for me, where I'm like, I'm 372 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: trying to find that like Okay, well I'm using this, 373 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't need it. No. I I couldn't finish that documentary. 374 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: I had an anxiety attack, and I think that was 375 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: just because like it's too real. I was literally like, 376 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: what am I doing? My whole life is on social 377 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: media and I can't like and I'm literally continuing to 378 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: put myself out there in front of who knows who, 379 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: and my life is so vulnerable. Um, and that's like 380 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: my job. And it's terrifying because literally I don't know 381 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: how it's going to get. Obviously, technology is going to 382 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: grow and grow, and I'm still a super vulnerable person 383 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: in the public eye and anyone could click on my 384 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: profile any second and make their own opinion about me exactly, 385 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: and you can. It's scary how much you can learn. 386 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: I still have the eight plus but and I don't 387 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: want to get rid of my home button. I'm like, 388 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: because I know like it's going to go of the 389 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: face I d and I've had this for four years now, 390 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: but it's like it's those things where it's like I'm 391 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: scared to where technology is going to advance too. I 392 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: think it's quite quite terrifying. Actually yeah, um So, speaking 393 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: of TikTok, he posted this TikTok just like a day 394 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: in your life, and I was like, man, this is 395 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: what people don't see. Just like it's draining to be 396 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: a student to work full time. So just like, how 397 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: are you doing mentally? Because I feel like that's a 398 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: question that's not asked enough. It's a new feeling every day. 399 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: I would say, five days ago, I mean I was 400 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: it was that type of month I mean I was 401 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: a little crazy emotional, and I had a million b 402 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: jillion things to do that day and the next couple 403 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: of days, and I was behind my school work. Um, 404 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: I needed to film and record a million things. Uh 405 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, I was. I was in the process of 406 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: editing this video and making sure that everything was perfect 407 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: and giving my notes back, and I was, oh my god, 408 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, like literally overwhelmed to the max. And 409 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like people never see that on 410 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: social media. First of all, was the fact that I 411 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: literally broke down and that was me last week. That 412 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: was literally mean less disaster. I mean now I'm great. Now, 413 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: I'm like life is awesome. But like that's how it is. 414 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: It's how it is. It changes every day, and I 415 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: feel like you can't be too hard on yourself because 416 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: you never want to get to that point otherwise it 417 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: can be quite very training. Yeah, I think it's so 418 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: interesting and just with your music, what I love about 419 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: it is it's so it's so authentic and true to 420 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: who you are. I know you've had like a lot 421 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: of like Billie Eilish comparisons, but I don't think you're 422 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: like bill Yeah, I think you're like yourself, and I 423 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: think that's the best kind of artist to be, where 424 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: you're not compared to another artist, but you are your 425 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: own artists and that's how you stand out. Um. Is 426 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: there a certain song that you've written that has had 427 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: the most feedback of leg oh my goodness, that's me 428 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: from your fans. Um. I think a lot of my 429 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: YouTube songs that because they were like really intimate. But 430 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: I do think that a lot of people related to 431 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: you broke me first, and I think like that. I 432 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: know when a song I think will relate to like 433 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: my listeners, one, I will put it on at dree 434 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: in the morning when I'm driving around and cry. You 435 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: know that's when you know when it's like stoo real. Yeah, 436 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: But then it's like that's when it's good because you 437 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: know that it's like completely raw feelings and not just 438 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: a songwriter method of getting getting a song out. And 439 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: I feel like you should know this. One of my 440 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: good friends she's going through a breakup and she found 441 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: that song and I told her I was talking to 442 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: she goes, please tell her that she knows me more 443 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: than I know my right now, because it's it's that's 444 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: what music does, which I think is so crazy that 445 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: we can all have that kind of experience. Um, do 446 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: you have that own experience with your music? Because I 447 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: know you said it's you broke me first. You've never 448 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: been through a heartbreak or is it more of just 449 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: like you relate from another aspective when you're writing, and 450 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: you relate to it but not as much. Well, I 451 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: haven't been through a huge heartbreak in a real relationship, 452 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: but I mean I've been through plenty of those talking phases, 453 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: the annoying ones we're saying it sucks, where those literally 454 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: put way more of a toll on you than anything else. 455 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: It's so draining and I'm I can't it's because it's 456 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: it's the unknown, like you don't know what there could 457 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: have been, And it's like when you're in a relationship, 458 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: you're like every this is everything that happened, and I'm 459 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: just completely like, this is what we were and if 460 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: it didn't work out, it didn't work out. But in 461 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: one of those talking phases where you never really get 462 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: to like the full dating phase, you're just like thinking 463 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,239 Speaker 1: and wondering and like there's there's never really like you 464 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: can't pinpoint what was wrong with you, And that's exactly. Yeah, 465 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: And that's where it's like plays with your mind a lot. 466 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: It really isn't. It's also when it's like there's no structure, 467 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: like I like to know things. I like commitment, I 468 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: want I like then commitment. I just want to know, 469 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: like you're in great, if you're out great, just let 470 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's it's hard, especially during 471 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: a panic. I'm sure you get this to like working, 472 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time to do that, 473 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: so it's hard to again find that balance with all 474 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: of that and then also have someone that's there for 475 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: the right reasons. It's crazy because all my songs I 476 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: think I've written about like I can't even describe where 477 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: I pulled the emotion from, but it's there. And I 478 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, I don't even know who I wrote 479 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: that about, but I know I wrote it about like 480 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: this specific event in this specific situation, and I felt 481 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: really shitty here and I blew out like a million 482 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: different things and I kind of just put it into 483 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: a song and then it feels super real. And then 484 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: if I ever come to a point in my life 485 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: where I feel that again, it hits so hard. I 486 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: think that's kind of even better, it's not like you're 487 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: getting it from one situation. You're just you're taking it 488 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: from your feelings and not from like one thing in 489 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: the moment that's making you feel this way. It's more 490 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: of this ongoing process. So when you're just when a 491 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: song releases, because I've been so fascinated by this on 492 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: like a release day of a song. Yeah, but I 493 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: don't think people realize is the days can be like 494 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: it's not like a party every day. You're still doing work, 495 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: You're still like having your day go on. What is 496 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: your general process of like when a song comes out 497 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: that day? Is it social media the entire time? Is 498 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: it work? Is it school work? Is it a party? 499 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: What is it? This is definitely not a party. Literally, 500 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: let my last release date walk downstairs, got a little 501 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 1: paddle my back for my dad as he was going 502 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: to go grab his coffee. Hey, good release date date. 503 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: I think that really sit down, homework for four hours, 504 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: workout training, do a little chat with my fans, the 505 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: video releases, and then dad'saw all night and then the 506 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: end of the day it's like a wrap up of 507 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: stats and what went wrong and what went right. I 508 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: find that so interesting because people don't talk about that. No, 509 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: it's very different than people might expect it to be. Yeah, 510 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a party for I mean, I 511 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: think some people like really partied up with like should 512 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: and stuff, but that's not me. It's literally just normal 513 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: day with extra stress. First of all, I love that. 514 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: I love lie like La to meet because it's so 515 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: just the music video's sick, thank you. When you're creating 516 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: a music video, do you come up with the choreography? 517 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: And how long does it generally take for that whole 518 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: music video to come together? So I have this one 519 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: quog for a name, Michelle Dolly. I've been working with 520 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: her since I was nine. She's like my person. I've 521 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: known her for forever. She lives in l A but 522 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: was from Calgary, so we have that connection. She's like 523 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: my sister. I love her and she choographs. Me and 524 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: her do like a collaboration for like every single video 525 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: the choographed together, and I love that. Yeah, and you 526 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: know I think, I mean I'm pretty like quick. I 527 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: usually either to like learn it on the spot or 528 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: a couple of hours before. Um, so it's just like 529 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: a one day process. That's so impressive. How often do 530 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: I know you competed for a while. How often in 531 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: do you dance now? Is it still every day? Every day? 532 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: And dance at nighttime for like three hours? Four hours? 533 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: How How sore is your body right now as we're 534 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: recording this, it's I just came back from the workout, 535 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: so it's so sore. Alright, Tate, we have to take 536 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: one more quick break. But when we come back, I 537 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about your future goals as 538 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: an artist and what's to come for We'll be back 539 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: and we're back. Congratulations again for just selling out like 540 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: your European tour in like a week. That's insane. What 541 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: are you most excited for? And what is your dream venue? 542 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: Dream venue would be like Madison Square Garden. That's manifest it. 543 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: Let's put it out on the universe Mass Square Garden. God. Um, definitely, 544 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm just excited to see people again. I think I'm getting, 545 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, so sick of being on my piano and 546 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: being in my room. The energy and a crowd when 547 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: you're performing at a concert is undescribable. It's literally the 548 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: most like so much stereotonin in your body, you're literally 549 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: just like I don't even remember it after the after 550 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: the show is done, and it's the best feeling in 551 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: the world, and I just miss it a lot. That 552 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: sounds the thought of just like having that much stereotonin 553 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: just because we've been in a pandemic for so long 554 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: sounds like so strange. You're so you're a songwriter, You're 555 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: really good with your words. If you had to like 556 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: describe just the feeling, how would you describe it? I 557 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing is you. Like I think because 558 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: I walked into my last tour, like at first, I 559 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: was like, all right, guys, why are we going on tour. 560 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: It's not gonna no one's gonna buy tickets, no one's 561 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna show up. And then no one's gonna know the words, 562 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: and it happened. It was crazy to me when the 563 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: total opposite thing happened. I literally just felt so overwhelmed 564 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: with love and support, and you know, every single person 565 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: in the crowd knew the lyrics, so it was just 566 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: like screaming at me at just so so happy, Like 567 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's kind of like a you go 568 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: through a lot of emotions as a teenager, and you're like, 569 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: I work so hard and I'm spending so many hours 570 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: for what you get on stage. You're like this, honestly, 571 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: that's so much better than going into it thinking you're 572 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: gonna get all of that and then get none of that. 573 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: So like low expectations that it saves me every time. Seriously, 574 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: I like to ask this sometimes because I get interesting answers. 575 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: Would you ever be on Broadway? See? I wanted to 576 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: be on Broadway for the longest time. When I was younger. 577 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: It always be Hey, I'm Kate and one day You're 578 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: going to see me on Broadway. That was my line. 579 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: That was literally my line. Yeah, it was. It was 580 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: my bio. I'm being serious. It was my YouTube bio 581 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: for solid five years. That's incredible. I has to change it. 582 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: Um wow. I kind of like that. I don't know, 583 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: I always wanted to be on Broadway, and then I 584 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: actually like realized that the repetition of like Broadway, I 585 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: think it's incredible, but I would just I don't think 586 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm the type of person to be stuck on one 587 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: stage for so long songs, same songs, you know. I'm like, 588 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go like super fast, super quick, like 589 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: always ready to do a new thing and super creative. 590 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: So I think I would get like a little um, 591 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: we get a little bit repetitive, But I mean some 592 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: people are rock at it and can kill it every 593 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: single night and make it look like they've never done 594 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: it before. Do you have a dream broad or like 595 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: favorite Broadway show that you've seen. I saw Hamilton's and 596 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: it was amazing. It's incredible. It's definitely my favorite show 597 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: of all time. And speaking of Hamilton's, a main theme 598 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: throughout the show is legacy. What would you want your legacy? dB? 599 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: What do you want to be known for as an artist? Honestly, 600 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure at the end of 601 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: the day that everything I said was real and everything 602 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: I said I wanted to say. I think there's so 603 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: many people who tell you what's right and what's wrong 604 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: and everything you should be doing. There's a step by 605 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: step process of how to be successful, and I think 606 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: it's all bullshit. I do. I literally think that I've 607 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: seen this TikTok's. You literally need to be your own 608 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: person and you need to be proud of yourself. At 609 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: the end of the day, if I hate a song, 610 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm always going to hate that song like it's just 611 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: a thing. If I and that's why I like writing 612 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: all my song because it's all my opinion in my ear. 613 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: But I've released songs before that I've been like, oh, 614 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: why did I have to release that? Like there was 615 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: no point in that, And I am not proud of 616 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: it anyway, and I don't love it, and I think 617 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: I just never wanna, never want to feel like that 618 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: because it's at the end of the day, like no one, 619 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: no one really cares. It's everyone has their own lives 620 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: to figure out, and everyone has their own lives to live. 621 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: You're just like a little a little spec So I 622 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: mean that's completely true. Is there is there anything coming 623 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: up that we can look forward to? Because I know 624 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: you just release a single, but is there is there 625 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: anything else you can you can talk about. I'll be 626 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: releasing hopefully a new single within the next month, and 627 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: then in the new year, have a couple of collapse, 628 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: which I'm very excited about, and then honestly just like 629 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: rolling out all that I've been writing and putting out 630 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: singles so manifesting it will be a great year. It's 631 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: not gonna be was just a rough year. We'll get 632 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: over it. It's almost done. It's almost done, and you 633 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: know what in we can maybe meet each other in 634 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: person instead of doing this virtually, we can meet more music. 635 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: I think that's what's going to happen perfect. I mean, 636 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: I'll we'll put it out into the universe, do it. 637 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: Another thing that I'm doing for my podcast is that 638 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: I feel, like many others, I've been feeling very helpless. 639 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: UM and so this year, for this season, I want 640 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: to have an artist promote charity that they're passionate about. UM. 641 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Is there any charity that you've worked with or that 642 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: you love that you want to talk about. It's funny 643 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: because I'm just doing this thing where every month I'm 644 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: doing like a new charity for YouTube. I'll sing a 645 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: whole bunch of live songs on my piano and I'll 646 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: pick a charity if there's like this live stream thing. So, 647 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still trying to figure out what I'm 648 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: gonna do for the month of November, but I think 649 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for like either mental health awareness or 650 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: cancer research. I mean, I'm like it was a big 651 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: part in my family. My mom's mom died of cancer, 652 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: so I am always always up to support cancer research 653 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: for sure. So I will have We'll find you'll send 654 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: us an organization and we can promote it and the 655 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: episodes out. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank 656 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: you amazing. All Right, you guys, thank you so much 657 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: for listening to this week's episode of the Let's Be 658 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: Real Podcast. If you haven't already, please hit subscribe, leave 659 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: a comment if you want. I'd love to hear your feedback. 660 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: And don't forget to follow me on Instagram at it 661 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: Sammy J. That's I T S S A M M 662 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Y j A y E. And don't forget to follow 663 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: Tate McRae on all of her socials Instagram, TikTok Twitter 664 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: is that tat mcgrae, And don't forget to visit my 665 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: instagram because I will have a link to the charity 666 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: that we talked about, so you can go check it out. 667 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: All right, you guys, I'll see you next week and 668 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the next episode. Bye.