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<v Speaker 1>Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Famer Tim Kirkchen. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkschen. We're

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<v Speaker 1>recording this on President's Day, So a happy President's Day

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<v Speaker 1>to you, Dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and to you Jeff. Four Team Tim today. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of our easiest team Tim's ever will have the

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<v Speaker 2>All President's team. This was not They're usually difficult. They're

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<v Speaker 2>usually a stretch, but it was pretty easy coming up

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<v Speaker 2>with a team with players whose last name of that

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<v Speaker 2>of a president. And I understand on President's Day, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>you went to the circus today with McKinley Hope. Huh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter and I we saw the Ringling Brothers at

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<v Speaker 1>Exfinity Mobile Live. I believe it is. And ironically, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>while I was at Exfinity Mobile Live formerly the Wells

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<v Speaker 1>Fargo Center in Philadelphia where the Sixers and the Flyers play,

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<v Speaker 1>the Infinity guy was fixing my internet here at my

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<v Speaker 1>house at the same exact time. So I walked in

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<v Speaker 1>there and I said, hey, listen, I'm a customer. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like access to the bathrooms early. I would like

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<v Speaker 1>frontline on all of the prizes. Dat how much money

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<v Speaker 1>do you think I spent on parking, food.

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<v Speaker 3>And gifts for my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and fifty bus tickets one hundred and fifty bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was at just over one hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>The cotton candy was eighteen dollars. Nobody told me parenting

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<v Speaker 1>would result in bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, it's so expensive today. I love the circus. I

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<v Speaker 2>took you kids to the circus a couple times when

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<v Speaker 2>you were young. I'll never forget Stephen Wright, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the great one line comedians of all times. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>have famous clown died Twenty of his clown friends went

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<v Speaker 2>to the funeral in one car.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad, I'll never forget you Remember the time we went

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<v Speaker 1>to go see Cirqua Sola, Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we were visiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Family, and all of us were wearing matching Chuck Taylor's. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you, I believe I was a teenager at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning my sister was, you know, almost twenty and Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>you told the parking attendant as we drove in, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to the circus, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were going to the she they're parking for

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<v Speaker 2>the circus. She looked at me.

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<v Speaker 1>Not even technically the circus at Surfu Alay it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit different.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>She looked at me like I was cared less.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. She didn't care, and I didn't care either.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's what I care about, Jeff. My Baseball Writer's

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<v Speaker 2>card arrived in the mail today. I started out in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty as number eight hundred and eighty on the

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball Writer's list. I was number eight eighty and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>down to number two, which means only twenty one people

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me have covered the game for longer

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<v Speaker 2>than I have. And I only bring that up because Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>I was number twenty two last year, so I'm twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two this year, which means what Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Means, you haven't had a chance to murder any of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty one in front of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody died in front of me. Is Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 2>baseball writer Joe falls on road. This is not a

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<v Speaker 2>race that you want to win. So I got my

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<v Speaker 2>card in the mail. It's as proud as I am

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<v Speaker 2>of anything that I do being a part of the

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball Writers and my card arrived. It's a means for celebration,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Very neat.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I want to let our listeners know just a

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<v Speaker 1>little note we're having a deck built in our backyard.

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<v Speaker 3>We moved to a new house. We're so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess where that deck connects to the home right behind me.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you hear any.

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<v Speaker 1>Knocking or trilling or any sorts of noise, it's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not building a birdhouse over here. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>deck being built behind me.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't I can't even get my podcast studio together.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using a different computer now because my computer won't

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<v Speaker 1>connect to the Wi Fi.

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<v Speaker 3>I sound like you. What is going on with me, Jeff?

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<v Speaker 2>When you have more technical issues than I do. We're both,

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<v Speaker 2>We're both. We're in a lot of trouble, all right, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>I really got a thrill. I'm writing a story. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to tell you what it's about because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a secret. Even though it's not basying about baseball, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball story. And Wow, consecutive days I spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Bench and Paul Molitor, which was you know again,

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<v Speaker 2>I love those guys. I've talked to him many, many,

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<v Speaker 2>many times. I'm not dropping names. I just want you

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<v Speaker 2>to know that, at age almost seventy, when I still

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<v Speaker 2>get to talk to guys like that. It's still a

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<v Speaker 2>big thrill for me because I learned so much when

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<v Speaker 2>I talk to them. So so four years ago, at

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<v Speaker 2>the Hall of Fame, Jeff, our whole family is there

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<v Speaker 2>and Jef Bench is walking by us, and I stopped

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<v Speaker 2>him and I said, Johnny, can you can you take

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<v Speaker 2>some pictures? My two brothers are here, there were both

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<v Speaker 2>great college baseball players. Can you take some pictures? So

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<v Speaker 2>he goes sure, So he pulls out his camera. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you know the story, Jeff and starts to take

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of all the Kirkchins at the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's so good at it, and I'm just so

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<v Speaker 2>honored that Johnny Bench is taking pictures of us. And finally,

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<v Speaker 2>after ten minutes, I say, Johnny, look, this was great,

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<v Speaker 2>but we want a picture with you in it with us.

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<v Speaker 2>So he says okay. So he passes his camera to

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<v Speaker 2>this other gentleman and said, can you take some pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of me with the Kirkchins. And the man he passed

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<v Speaker 2>it to was Paul Molitor. So the guy who got

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<v Speaker 2>more hits than Willie Mays took the camera and took

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of Johnny Bench with the Kirkchins, and I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to those guys on back to my days that is

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<v Speaker 2>it okay to still get a thrill by that, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's hilarious that arguably the greatest catcher

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<v Speaker 1>of all time wanted to take a picture of us. Normally,

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<v Speaker 1>Normally it's the insult when you get handed the camera

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<v Speaker 1>and you're the one that doesn't. And trust me, that

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<v Speaker 1>is happening, right. I take pictures for you all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>People are like, hey, Tim, it's great to meet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we get a picture, And I say, yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to take a picture for you, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I take it for them with you. But for Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>Bench to assume that we wanted just his camera skills,

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<v Speaker 1>which are immaculate.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Dad, I have a question kind of

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<v Speaker 3>on this line though.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about photography and baseball players?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like there's a correlation here.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Griffy Junior, great photographer, Randy Johnson, amazing photographer, Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>Bench loves to take photos. Is it, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be kitchy or stupid or funny? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>an eye thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a is it a capturing a moment, great

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<v Speaker 3>eyes kind of It's.

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<v Speaker 2>A good question, Jeff. And maybe it is. Maybe when

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<v Speaker 2>you're you know, so visible like they are, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>you know, grown up with pictures being taken of them

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<v Speaker 2>in the greatest situations ever, World Series, everything else. They

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<v Speaker 2>see what that, they understand what that means, and they

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<v Speaker 2>want to capture it themselves because their likeness has been

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<v Speaker 2>captured so many times. Very interesting question, Jeff. Al McGuire,

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<v Speaker 2>the great basketball coach used to say, this guy has

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<v Speaker 2>two hobbies, photography and taking pictures, which we always got

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<v Speaker 2>to kick out al.

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<v Speaker 3>McGuire, it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>And Dad, you know, I thought you were just about

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<v Speaker 1>a sneak us and say, darn it, Jeff, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>my story was about, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, Jeff, a shout out to Sam Ravich, our dear friend,

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<v Speaker 2>Karl Ravich's son. Sam is in the business. He's really

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<v Speaker 2>good at this. He just had a child a year

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<v Speaker 2>and a half ago or so, Jj, But he sent

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<v Speaker 2>out something about his alma mater, pepper Dine, where a

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<v Speaker 2>pitcher Colin Valentine pitched started a game the pitcher on

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<v Speaker 2>Valentine's Day and according to Sam, he's the first college

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<v Speaker 2>baseball pitcher with the name Valentine to ever start a

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<v Speaker 2>game on Valentine's Day. And he sent that to me

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<v Speaker 2>and said, he said, Tim, I thought you'd appreciate this,

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<v Speaker 2>so Sam, thank you very much. You have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>how much I appreciate your thing, way too much, but

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, Dad, that's a great little quirk chin

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<v Speaker 1>which I can't wait to get into the quark chins

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<v Speaker 1>when we start the regular season again.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to be really good. Dad. I do have

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 1>A PSA that I wanted to share with our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody who happens to be in and around the

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia area. I meant to bring this up last week,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, I guess it's never too late. We

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<v Speaker 1>have I have an event called a Tasty Talk. It's

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<v Speaker 1>coming up tomorrow February eighteenth, So Wednesday, February eighteenth at

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<v Speaker 1>Mason Lotus in Wayne, Pennsylvania, right on the main line,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're selling tickets to give back to ALS Research

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<v Speaker 1>and ALS United mid Atlantic is going to be receiving

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<v Speaker 1>the funds and we're going to do I have some

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<v Speaker 1>Phillies tickets to give away some signed merchandise to give away. Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually wanted to ask you if you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a couple of books to give away for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the silent auction that I'm going to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>for that to raise some money for als.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think I can get a book or two?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you have plenty of books still, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if you want information about how to attend

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<v Speaker 1>this event, it's open to the public, just have to

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<v Speaker 1>get a ticket in advance. You can go to Great

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<v Speaker 1>Game or what dot com. I'm going to put this

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<v Speaker 1>up on our website, just a link. There's a number

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<v Speaker 1>of seats still left. Dad, You're actually going to be

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<v Speaker 1>driving up for it, which is really awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I'm going to be given a given a

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<v Speaker 3>little speech.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm really looking forward to it. And Dad, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad that you. I was going to try to involve

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<v Speaker 1>you in the event, and then I kind of said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when does my dad just go go to

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<v Speaker 1>an event and just be able to eat and enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>instead of having to get up there and dance, monkey

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<v Speaker 1>dance and talk baseball for an hour. Instead, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk for only fifteen minutes. Mind you and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad you're gonna make it. It's gonna be really special. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing a lot of speeches lately, Jeff. As

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<v Speaker 2>in a five day period. Recently, I spoke to my

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<v Speaker 2>grandson Carson's class, age five. Then I spoke at a

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<v Speaker 2>retirement home average age I'm guessing eighty five. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a couple days later, and then I spoke at a

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<v Speaker 2>banquet for the Israeli baseball team in the WBC. Talk

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<v Speaker 2>about an eclectic group of speeches that I had to

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<v Speaker 2>make during a five day period. They all turned out

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well, I hope, and it was great. But Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>just relax on Wednesday. You'll be great and just be yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>be spontaneous, be genuine, be real, and everything will be five.

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<v Speaker 1>And the funniest part of that is the toughest crowd

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<v Speaker 1>was the four and five year olds, right by far.

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<v Speaker 2>The tough's crap six seventh jeez, they're like.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop talking about bab Ruth, talk about show. Hey all right, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that thanks for the PSA giving me that chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to great camera what dot com to get your tickets?

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<v Speaker 3>Should you jump into the takeaways? My friend?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? Jeff, Okay, last week we kind of kicked off.

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<v Speaker 2>Spring training has begun. This week's spring training games are beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's be clear about spring training games. I love

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<v Speaker 2>spring training games, but you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times that only four major leaguers are in the line

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<v Speaker 2>of Some of them play two, three, four innings and

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<v Speaker 2>then they're gone. That's just the way it works in

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<v Speaker 2>spring training. Do you have a visitor, Jeff, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have, Hope Hies. Whose house did you sleep

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<v Speaker 2>at the other night?

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<v Speaker 3>Whose house did you sleep at the other night?

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<v Speaker 2>Popop's house? Love?

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<v Speaker 3>Did pop Ups house? And did pop Up sleep with

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<v Speaker 3>you in the bed? Because you had trouble falling asleep?

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<v Speaker 2>And then she woke up and had a terrible nightmare,

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<v Speaker 2>and but she went right back to bed and she

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<v Speaker 2>was great.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, Sissy, well can you say I love you?

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<v Speaker 3>Pop up right in the microphone? Wow, popap love.

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<v Speaker 2>See you on Wednesday. Okay, see you see Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Sissy, you can you can play down here,

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<v Speaker 1>my love, but you have to you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>quiet and let Daddy work.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you can play though, you want to play down here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you can play down here. I love you, give me kiss. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you got some wipes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That one is me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you can play down here, but you gotta you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta play quietly. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the joys of being a working from home

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<v Speaker 1>father for this podcast. She and the dog just came

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<v Speaker 1>down too. Have you ever seen that news clip, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>of the guy who's doing like a live Yeah, both

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<v Speaker 1>of his kids come dancing. She just scared the living

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<v Speaker 1>heck out of me just by standing there. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize she was going to be here, So I know

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<v Speaker 1>that any moment now, Emily is going to come sprinting

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<v Speaker 1>down the stairs thinking that she is disturbed. And it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be okay. So once it comes down,

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<v Speaker 1>McKinley's going to play nice and quietly. She's got a

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<v Speaker 1>skirt on because daddy's working right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, back to the takeaways, Dad, Sorry for the great.

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<v Speaker 2>Distraction, all right, No worries, Jeff. Again, spring training games

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<v Speaker 2>have begun and there's no telling what you might see

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<v Speaker 2>at a spring training game. I'm going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>this story, Jeff. I think I've told you before, but

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<v Speaker 2>since you're in you know country music. Garth Brooks, the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Garth Brooks used to work out with the San

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<v Speaker 2>Diego Padres in spring training and Bruce Bochie, Bruce Bochie

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<v Speaker 2>put him into a game more than once, so he

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<v Speaker 2>put him in as a pinch runner. And Garth Brooks,

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<v Speaker 2>who like could hold his own believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>gets picked off in a spring training game. He's out

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<v Speaker 2>by five feet going back to first base, and Ed Montague,

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<v Speaker 2>the umpire veteran, Ed Montague calls him safe. So like

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Grace, the first basement is laughing out loud, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Garth Brooks

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<v Speaker 2>hugs Ed Montague right there on the field, hugs him

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<v Speaker 2>for still calling him safe. And Ed Montague said after

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<v Speaker 2>the game, look, I can call Barry Mands out of first,

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<v Speaker 2>I can call Mark Grace out at first, but I

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<v Speaker 2>can't call Garth Brooks out of first. My wife loves him,

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<v Speaker 2>and if I called about I couldn't go home after

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<v Speaker 2>the game. So it just shows you these are the

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful things that happen in spring training. Nobody's taking it

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<v Speaker 2>that seriously. And we can have a country music store.

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<v Speaker 2>Our pinch run in a major league game in spring training.

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<v Speaker 2>You're okay, right, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, of course that's the beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, nothing is better in my opinion. Besides, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got October baseball and spring training baseball. Listen, a summer

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<v Speaker 1>game with a cold beer is the best thing ever.

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<v Speaker 1>But spring training just it's like you're a kid at

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<v Speaker 1>that ballpark because you're so close to the players, you have.

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<v Speaker 3>So much access to them. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember when Will Ferrell got traded mid game from

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<v Speaker 1>one team to another on the same team, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's hilarious. And every year in the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>almost Jeff, we have miked up players in spring training

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<v Speaker 2>and they're just so playful, they're having so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We had Mookie bets On, Rabbi Eduardo and I did

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<v Speaker 2>a game at spring training I don't know eight years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Moki's in Boston and there's a line drive down the

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<v Speaker 2>right field line and we are having a conversation with

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<v Speaker 2>him and he's run after the ball and he goes

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<v Speaker 2>ain't getting to this one boys, the ball drops in

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<v Speaker 2>for a double, and then we've got to talking about

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<v Speaker 2>his golf swing and there he is in right field

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of an exhibition game, showing us his

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<v Speaker 2>golf swing. Again, this can only happen in spring training.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a really fun, joyful time of year, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you go there not expecting to see your

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<v Speaker 2>team win every game, your your favorite players playing nine innings,

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<v Speaker 2>and even your favorite players being great, Jeff, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not important to go there and run up big numbers. Show. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony doesn't care if he gets a hit in spring training,

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<v Speaker 2>just as long as he stays, you know, according to

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<v Speaker 2>his plan, his body holds up and everything else. And

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<v Speaker 2>to that end, Jeff, just keep in mind wins and

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<v Speaker 2>losses for teams totally irrelevant in spring training. The eighty

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<v Speaker 2>four Cubs, I remember this, went seven and twenty during

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<v Speaker 2>spring training seven and twenty and ended up winning the

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<v Speaker 2>division that year. And on the other side, the two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and two Orioles went twenty and nine in spring

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<v Speaker 2>training and lost ninety five games this year. So there

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<v Speaker 2>often is no correlation between a good spring training or

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<v Speaker 2>bad spring training record and what's going to happen in

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<v Speaker 2>the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, before our anniversary show at our radio station

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<v Speaker 1>every year, Dad, we have what's called the side stage

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<v Speaker 1>where these young up and coming artists come befom on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've had the likes of Luke Colmbs, the likes

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<v Speaker 1>of Morgan Wallen Hardy. These are like the biggest names

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<v Speaker 1>in country music right now. Dad playing on this tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little stage before the big headliner goes on the big,

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<v Speaker 1>big stage. And they're playing at like two pm. Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>the show starts at seven.

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<v Speaker 3>My point is what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Love about country music listeners and baseball fans is they

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<v Speaker 1>love investing in an artist or a player early on.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know who you're going to see in a

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<v Speaker 1>spring training game. That could be the next Mike Trout,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be the next Bryce Harper, could be the

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<v Speaker 1>next show Hey, whatever it is, because it's just magic,

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<v Speaker 1>right and you see players make connections with fans, and

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<v Speaker 1>you could say I saw him when he wore number

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<v Speaker 1>eighty two in.

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona's Cactus League. He was in nobody, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's starting as the everyday left field or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it might be.

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff, I love those stories.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why spring training is so good and so important.

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<v Speaker 2>The stuff you see there in February and March, at

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<v Speaker 2>least for me as a reporter, are still important. When

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<v Speaker 2>October rolls around because you might see a guy and

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<v Speaker 2>you say, wow, I saw him on a backfield in

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<v Speaker 2>spring training, and now here he is playing in the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series. Those things really matter. So and all sorts

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<v Speaker 2>of like I said, Jeff, all sorts of crazy things

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<v Speaker 2>happen in spring training. I did a game with the Orioles,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Stone, this is the late eighties. Got thrown out

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<v Speaker 2>at all four bases in one game. Now, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>that's not I'm sure that's been done before. It just

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<v Speaker 2>seemed a little bit odd to me. He got thrown

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<v Speaker 2>out at first, second, third, and home in the same game.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sounds pretty That sounds unique, does it not.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like he was trying to turn it on

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times with the wheels, and the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>were not spinning in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. And I'm going to use a bad word here,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll bleep it out. Jet. But Earl Williams was a

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<v Speaker 2>really good power hitting catcher for the Braves, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Orioles loved anyone that could hit the ball out of

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<v Speaker 2>the ballpark, especially at a position where you're not used

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<v Speaker 2>to getting great power. So they acquired Earl Williams, the

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<v Speaker 2>catcher from the Braves, and Earl Weaver, the manager of

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<v Speaker 2>the Orioles, told me years later that Earl Williams showed

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<v Speaker 2>up and Earl Weaver started him the first three games

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<v Speaker 2>of the exhibition season so he could get used to

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<v Speaker 2>catching the four great starting pitchers that the Orioles had.

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<v Speaker 2>But when the lineup was posted after the third straight

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<v Speaker 2>game to start the exhibition season in which Earl Earl

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<v Speaker 2>Williams is starting, he goes into Earl Weaver's office and says,

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<v Speaker 2>don't we have any other bleeping catchers on this team?

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<v Speaker 2>And Earl Weavers said, I knew right then we were

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble. Needless to say, the Earl Williams experience from

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<v Speaker 2>the Braves to the Orioles didn't turn out as well

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<v Speaker 2>as we thought it would.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're the only podcast host in the world that says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say a bad word, but we'll bleep it out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you don't say the bad word, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you just say bleep instead.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've got kids listening to the show once in

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<v Speaker 2>a while. Don't read that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I have the bleeping capability to bleeping bleep the bleep,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can bleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the first time. This is a true story,

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<v Speaker 1>honest to god. I remember the first time I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading one of your books.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it must have been is this a great game?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what?

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<v Speaker 1>It was your second book, because there were no bad

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<v Speaker 1>words in the first book, America's Game, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of like a history of the game to

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<v Speaker 1>that point. And I remember reading a four letter bad

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<v Speaker 1>word in that and immediately coming to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember this? And I said, Dad, you wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a bad word in your book, And.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, I was quoting somebody, Jeff, that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>have to do. And that was the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>had ever heard in theory, I guess, not really heard,

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<v Speaker 1>but heard you utter a curse word.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was reading your book. Sometimes for the importance

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<v Speaker 2>of the quote, you need to include all the words.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like when al Pacino uses the F word, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>uses it more powerfully and better than Albacina. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>enough of that. That's enough of the takeaways. The point is,

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<v Speaker 2>if you go to a spring training game, just sit

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<v Speaker 2>back and enjoy it, and don't expect to be entertained

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<v Speaker 2>by the best players for nine innings. Just sit back,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the sunshine. And maybe, just like you said, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll see somebody who's going to make a difference, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not this year, but maybe two years from now, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna say I was there. That guy made his

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<v Speaker 2>debut in an exhibition game in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Dad, on this date in baseball history, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you have for us?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, today is Michael Jordan's birthday. How cool is that? So,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael j Michael Jordan, of course, played one year minor

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<v Speaker 2>league baseball for the Birmingham Barons. Having all, he is

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest basketball player of all time, we're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to argue about this. This is not the reason we

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<v Speaker 2>do this show. But after three championships, he goes and

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<v Speaker 2>plays baseball for one year at Double A. And I thought, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just quickly tell the story again. I thought Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan was going to hit fifty in Double A. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a great high school baseball player. It takes

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years away from it and goes and plays at

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<v Speaker 2>Double A. He hit two oh two, He drove in

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three runs, stole thirty six bases, a miracle. He

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<v Speaker 2>willed himself to hit two hundred in DOUBLEA, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way he was hitting under two hundred. Tito Frankcona

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<v Speaker 2>was his manager, and he told me hours and hours

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<v Speaker 2>of stories about how great a teammate Michael Jordan was

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<v Speaker 2>and how he would do anything to learn how to

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<v Speaker 2>play the game properly because he recognized this is not

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<v Speaker 2>my sport. I got to listen to the experts. Does

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<v Speaker 2>any of this surprise you about Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not at all, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And after watching his documentary, I think we learned a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about him. But I loved the baseball

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<v Speaker 1>stories and I love the Terry Francona stories we got about.

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<v Speaker 2>Mj Right, well, Tito tells a bunch of them, but

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 2>one of them, one of them, he says, they come

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 2>back on a team bust, you know, the Jordan cruiser,

0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.920
<v Speaker 2>and they stop and where they park there's an outdoor

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 2>basketball court there, and everyone knows this is Jordan getting

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 2>off the bus. He's playing basketball now, So they start

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 2>chirping at him from a distance, like, come on over,

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 2>old man, come on over, baseball player, see what you

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 2>could do against us. So Jordan is now pissed that

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 2>he's being challenged here. So he grabs four of the coaches,

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:24.000
<v Speaker 2>one of them Tito Francona, and says, we're going to

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 2>play these guys and they and Tito said, no, no, no,

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm the manager here, I'm in charge of you. We're

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:33.879
<v Speaker 2>not playing them, and Jordan says, yes, we are. So

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>they go and play five on five against these guys

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 2>on this outdoor sandlot court. Okay, first time down the court,

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Tito tells me he sets a pick. He sets a

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 2>screen for Michael Jordan at the top of the key,

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 2>as if Michael Jordan needs a screen to get by

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 2>his guy and get to the rack, like it's the

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 2>most ridiculous thing ever, screams out and get out of

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:06.120
<v Speaker 2>my way. So Jordan of course took over, and one

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 2>guy was still chirping, and Jordan like dunked on the

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:12.439
<v Speaker 2>guy like bent the rim, literally bent the rim, and

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.360
<v Speaker 2>then stood over top of him and was screaming at

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 2>him as he was lying on the ground. And at

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 2>that point, Tito just called the game off, like, I

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>can't allow anything bad to happen here. Michael, you're a

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 2>baseball player. You're with us now. And Jordan of course

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 2>did what the manager said and on all those bus trides. Jeff,

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I told you this. They used to play Yachtzi for

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 2>money on every trip. So Tito told me, he said,

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm making twenty seven thousand dollars a year as the

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 2>manager of the Birmingham Barons, and Michael's on our Team's

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 2>greatest basketball player ever. He's got three rings and he's

0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 2>the richest man in America. And he said, and he's

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 2>cheating at Yatzi because he cannot bear to lose because

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>they're playing for money. This is who is how competitive

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan was. And all these years later, Jeff, he

0:26:09.960 --> 0:26:13.400
<v Speaker 2>and Michael Jordan, Tito and Michael Jordan are like best friends,

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>best friends, and it just shows you what a great

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 2>manager Tito is, but more important, what a great teammate

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan was. Where he recognized, if I'm gonna succeed

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 2>in the sport, even for one year, I have to

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 2>do and listen to the people who know the game

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 2>way better than I do. So Happy birthday to Michael Jordan.

0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, Dad, that's funny that you brought that up, because

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>for poor pop Op today, I have a quiz about famous.

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.879
<v Speaker 3>MJ's No way, isn't that insane.

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's go.

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Each one of these answers, D it's a short one

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.520
<v Speaker 1>has their initials either their first and last name or

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>their first and middle name to be MJ.

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, all right, so Dad, can you name me?

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>The famous MJ who is a renowned American fashion designer

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>celebrated for his blend of grunge nineteen seventies to nineteen

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>eighties nostalgia with cool aesthetics. He was previously the creative

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>director of Louis Vauton, but then created his own brand

0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 1>named after him, m j.

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Uh I starting with the harder ones, Jef.

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope this is the hardest one because I have

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 2>no idea.

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>It's your son in law's first name, Mark Mark Uh,

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and then another Mark Jacobs. Dad, I'm not even gonna

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>make you go down this, Okay, I'll make it.

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 3>A little easier from there.

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Ruinch, What are you crazy? How am I supposed to

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>know that he's.

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>The lead singer of the Rolling Stones and a rock

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>icon MJ.

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Bick Jagger. I'm not that stupid.

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 3>Okay, how about the King of Pop Michael Close? Come on,

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 3>the King of Pop?

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Dad?

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 3>Uh, try a different live.

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Name Jackson Michael Jackson, Okay, yeah, sorry about that.

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 3>You got Jordan on the brain, that's all right.

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 1>How about the queen of hip hop and soul, known

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>for hits like Family Affair and Be Without.

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 2>You of course, Dad an nj Uh Mary j Blige.

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 3>Good job, Dad, did I get you? Got that one right? Shockingly?

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>And that We're just gonna end the quiz there because

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I mean, I started with Mark

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Jacobs and that was that was a poor point for you.

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe you had bought a Mark Jacob's bag

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 1>in your past for mom or my sister.

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>No, sorry, sorry, a fashion not not my strong suit,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 2>among many many many other things out there. Okay, so

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>happy birthday to Michael Jordan. Also, happy birthday to Danny Patterson,

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 2>not quite as famous. Danny Patterson pitching the big leagues

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 2>for a bunch of years, Tigers and Rangers. I don't

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>know why I got such a kick out of this jet,

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 2>but I was talking to him one day. He used

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 2>to throw a split. Look at my hands on the

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>baseball jet. That's how you throw a split. I don't

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 2>know how anyone throws a split. I got really long fingers,

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I got giant hands for little guy. But the thought

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of trying to control a split with your fingers split

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 2>around the ball like that is amazing. So Danny Patterson

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>told me that he used one night the Vulcan grip.

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 2>So he put the script the baseball in between his

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>fourth and third finger. That's the Vulcan grill. And I said,

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>that's impossible. No one could control that pitch. And he's

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that's it, Jeff, And I said, how long did you

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 2>work on it? He goes, I tried it before the

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>game and then I brought it in and threw it

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>in the game that night. How about that the Vulcan grip.

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget Danny Patterson, just for that. Also on

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 2>this state, in twenty twelve, Tim Wakefield retired. The late

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Tim Wakefield. What a terrible loss for baseball. One of

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the best guys I've ever met. And again, Jeff started

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>more games than any pitcher in the history of the

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Red Sox, a pretty long history and storied history. But

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Tim Wakefield was very underrated, in part because he threw

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 2>a knuckleball. Everyone thinks that some sort of circus act.

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Hey we're going to the circus. He was a really

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 2>good pitcher, a great, great competitor, and he retired on

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 2>this date in twenty twelve, died that long ago. Terrible

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>loss for baseball so arrested peace Tim Wakefield, and on

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 2>this date, fourteen years ago he announced his retirement.

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Dad, let's jump into from Burley to Behemoth. Now, you

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>had mentioned that you are getting a little finn here,

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not.

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 3>Talking about your physique.

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about being able to name the greatest number

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>sixty two of all time.

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't think we're gonna make it from fifty

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>six to ninety nine. We may have to ditch this

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 2>at some point, but look, number sixty two. We have

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>a couple options. Jaba Chamberlain for the Yankees war number

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>sixty two and with a hind darn good pitcher. They

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 2>used to have a rule. They called it the Jaba rules,

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>so they could protect him, like if he pitched one day,

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>then he would have to take a day off before

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>pitching again. They called him the Jaba Rules. But I've

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 2>taken Jose Kintana above him. He certainly has a war

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>much higher starting pitcher one one hundred and thirteen games

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>is still pitching. Just got signed by the Rockies, So

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 2>our great number sixty two Jose Quintana.

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay with that, Dad, Listen, I'm not going to complain

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>because I'm with you. I looked up players wearing numbers

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>between sixty three and ninety nine, and I would be

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 1>okay with maybe putting this aside for the regular season

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>once we get there.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I know, I know the members of our family, our.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Listeners have had amazing ideas on what we can take

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>us through the year, and I know we have a

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of really good segments we want to plan and

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>put out for you once we're back to three days

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a week during the regular season. So we'll be there

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>for that, all right, Dad, Three cards in the bathroom?

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:35.719
<v Speaker 1>What do you have for us?

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Right? Let's make sure. Three Coins in the Fountain is

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 2>an old song from many years ago. We have a

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 2>ton of baseball cards down in the downstairs bathroom. This morning,

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>I just went in grabbed a bunch. I didn't use

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 2>the three that we're using, but I maybe picked ten

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 2>and these are three. So number one is Bailey Ober,

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 2>which I love. He's a pitcher of course for the Twins.

0:32:57.240 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 2>And a couple of years ago I did a game

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 2>in Minneapolis and He is six foot nine and he

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>is the tallest player in baseball at the time, and

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 2>he was facing Jose Altuve to start the game, and

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Jose l Tuova at the time was the shortest player

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>in baseball. So the first batter of the game featured

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>the tallest player in baseball at the time against the shortest.

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Does anyone. I just love baseball because it's open to

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 2>all shapes and sizes, And the first batter was six'

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 2>nine against against five. SIX i love.

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>That you, know every once in a while you get

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>a matchup in like of a jump ball in THE,

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>nba involving a point guard in a center it rarely,

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>happens but in baseball you get this all the, time

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>and this is what makes the game.

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Great And, DAD i know you're not big into. Gambling

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 3>neither AM i.

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Quite, FRANKLY i don't do it a lot when it

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>comes to my, sports BUT i definitely think if if

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna bet On bailey, OVER i think he got

0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>to take the over and not the.

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Under at sixth, nine you better take the. Over better

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>take the, over very very, Good jeff All. Right number

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>two Is andrew, McCutcheon one of my favorite players That

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 2>i've ever been. Around incredibly, Talented. Jeff As i've told you,

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.759
<v Speaker 2>before if we have a you, know a talent show

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 2>in the major, LEAGUES i Think Steven vote would, win

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 2>But andrew McCutcheon would be a very very strong. Second

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 2>he can do, impersonations he can, Sing he's obviously a

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 2>great baseball. Player he's hilariously funny when he wants to.

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Be And i'll never forget. This i've used this a few, Times.

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Jeff he won a batting championship in high school when

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>he was in the eighth. Grade in the eighth, grade

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>playing against twelve. Graders he told, me AND i pulled

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.399
<v Speaker 2>this out of, him that he went to he went

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to you, know he was at one of these schools

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 2>where it was you, know like kindergarten to. Twelve so

0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 2>he goes out for the team and he's going over

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 2>to THE jv field at the VARs. Coaches, no, no, no,

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 2>son you're over here with us eighth. Grader AND i

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>told you That Matt diaz who lived in the area with.

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Him Matt diaz was a professional baseball player who went

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>on to have a pretty darn good major league, career

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>but as a professional baseball, player a DOUBLE a. Player

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 2>he worked With andrew McCutcheon when he was thirteen years.

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Old So andrew's thirteen getting hitting tips from a DOUBLE

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>a baseball, player and after three, Lessons Matt diaz told, Me,

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.359
<v Speaker 2>ANDREW i can't help you. Anymore you're a better hitter

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 2>THAN i. Am and he was thirteen years. Old So andrew,

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.959
<v Speaker 2>McCutcheon let's not A hall Of, famer but he's had

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>an exceptional, career one of the Best Pittsburgh pirates.

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Ever maybe it's a humble, brag but WHEN i was

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in eighth grade At Ridgeview Middle school In, Gaithersburg, maryland Mister,

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>indovina the high school choir, teacher came to our choir

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>class and told, me you're not taking, Journalism you're taking.

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 3>CHOIR i already enrolled you in my. Class no big.

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Deal kind of the same, thing, Right and MISTER i

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 2>played nicely Nicely johnson in high, school and so did.

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 2>You and he ACKNOWLEDGED i was really good at, that

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>but you were better THAN i, Was isn't that? True?

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he did say that that role was, very very

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 1>important to, him and he was very nervous to cast.

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 3>It so after my freshman.

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Year first of, all if you think my voice is high,

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>now you should have heard me freshman year of high.

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 3>SCHOOL i went away And, dad that was.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>The famous summer where you CLAIM i went to camp

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<v Speaker 1>for two weeks AND i came back AND i didn't

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>look or sound the same at all after two weeks

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>away from my. Family and it was freshman welcome And

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<v Speaker 1>i'm a sophomore now AND i go see MISTER i

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 1>and we're singing at the freshman. Welcome it's the first

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>time he saw me after the, summer AND i, said,

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>hey mister, iye and he, goes, oh thank, GOODNESS i,

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.920
<v Speaker 1>said what he, goes you finally grew up and your

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>voice dropped a little bit because that year would have

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<v Speaker 1>been guys and, dolls and that year would have been

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<v Speaker 1>nicely Nicely.

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson so you had me in mind for the, role

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 3>but he, SAID i can't put squeaky Little Jeff gertschen up.

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<v Speaker 3>There he needed a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>More and, Listen i'm still not a, man but a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more of a man up there on.

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<v Speaker 3>Stage So i'm still really grateful to Mister.

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<v Speaker 1>Indvina sorry totally going off, here BUT i think everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has a teacher or a coach that they look back

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>on that really means a lot to, them and for

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>me that was MISTER. I the best, teacher choir, director

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>theater director did all of our shows through high school the.

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<v Speaker 3>Best so MISTER, i thank you so much for. Everything,

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<v Speaker 3>okay back to the, car.

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<v Speaker 2>Right last one Is Al bumbrie one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>people That i've ever been. Around Former oriole and a

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<v Speaker 2>really Good oriole center fielder in the. Seventies he was

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>a little, guy but really strong and really. Determined you, Know.

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:55.959
<v Speaker 2>Vietnam vett played basketball in, college was a Good Major

0:37:56.040 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>league baseball. PLAYER i should not tell you the, story

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<v Speaker 2>But i'm going. TO i just want to make sure

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 2>it's about. Him. OKAY i ended up in a gym

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 2>in the, offseason many many years, ago And i'm playing

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 2>basketball And Al bumbrae is guarding. Me i've never played

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 2>against him, before AND i took him to the bucket

0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>first time and. Scored second, time second time down the,

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 2>COURT i took him to the bucket and. Scored and

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 2>he was so angry that this dinky little sports rider

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 2>had taken him to the rack twice that he picked

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:34.440
<v Speaker 2>me up at the end line and guarded me the

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 2>rest of the night as if it Was game seven

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 2>of THE Nba. Finals so when we talk about the

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 2>competitive nature of these baseball, players it's not just in,

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 2>baseball it's in. Anything if there's a, competition they have to.

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Win and for two, possessions Al bumbrie did not, win

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 2>and that was enough for, him and he shut my

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 2>water down for the rest of the. Night it was very.

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<v Speaker 2>WELL i was always impressed with how Competitive albumbrie, is

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 2>which is and here's the competitive Nature Jet Mike flanning

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>in the Late Great Mike flanning and told me the

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<v Speaker 2>story once That Dennis eckersley Hit albumbrie with a pitch

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 2>And bumbrie was certain that he hit him on. Purpose

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>so he goes like three years without Facing Dennis eckersley,

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>again And bumbray's on base when he, scores And Dennis

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 2>eckersley is backing up home plate as the pitcher's supposed to,

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:39.720
<v Speaker 2>do and Al bumbrie crosses home plate and just steamrolls

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:45.239
<v Speaker 2>and Knocks Dennis eckersley into next, week making it look

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 2>like it was an. ACCIDENT i didn't see him. There

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 2>he was backing up the. Plate so he gets back

0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 2>to the dugout And mike flanningan goes b that was his,

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 2>NICKNAME B what was that all? About and he, said

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 2>he hit me with a pitch AND i had to

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 2>get him back And Mike flanning goes ow that was

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 2>three years. Ago Had be, SAID i don't, care it

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 2>really hurt and he had to get back out of.

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Him that's how vengeful these baseball players. Are and it's

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 2>that spirit and that competitive nature that Made, albumbrie A vietnam,

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 2>veteran a really good high school college basketball player and

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>a very Good major league baseball. Player surprised at, All, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>NO i, mean and the game has changed so much

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>you would never see that happen, today just with the

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>rules of player safety and, fights and it's a different.

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>World no one's getting beaned anymore like they used. To

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>no one's knocking out catchers like they used. To no

0:40:41.840 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>one's taking out second basement like they used. To the

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 1>game has, changed and part of, me though it's safer,

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>now part of me misses those, days.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Jeff and last thing about the word Bean we've

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 2>been over this pet. Peeve, okay if somebody gets beaned

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 2>in a, game it means he got hit Where jeff

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 2>in the. Head in the, head it's called your. Bean

0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 2>if you get hit in the foot or hit in the,

0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 2>butt you weren't, beaned you were, plunked you were hit

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call. It but anybody who got

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 2>beaned means he got hit in the. Head AM i

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.279
<v Speaker 2>being a pedantic little twit WHEN i say?

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>THIS i thought it was because Mister bean always acted

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.359
<v Speaker 1>like he had just gotten.

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 3>Hit in the.

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Head, right you were watching Mister bean WHEN i was watching,

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Baseball but he was he is was very very. Funny,

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay so that's the three cards in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bathroom all, Right, Dad let's wrap it up today with

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>A Team. Tim given that today the day of filming

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Is President's, day you have an all Presidents Team. Tim

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<v Speaker 1>NOW i want to add a little asterisk. Here we

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>understand that my dad has done A Team tim Of president's.

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Before but this is where you come, in handy members

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of the. Family if you have A Team, tim you

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>want to have red on the. Air we could use

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:57.399
<v Speaker 1>it because we're going to be doing this a lot

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.280
<v Speaker 1>more this. Season great game or what dot com? Message Ok?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Now, jeff let's also be clear. Here i'm not

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:07.479
<v Speaker 2>coming up with the greatest players at each position who

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 2>have a president's. Name i'm not doing. That i'm doing

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 2>this for the fun of the, team And i'll explain

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>that as we go. Along catcher Is Gary. Carter Reggie

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 2>jefferson is our first. Baseman Homer bush is our second.

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Baseman John, kennedy how great is? That is the third.

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 2>Baseman and he played with The senators in the early,

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 2>sixties like When John kennedy was the president and then

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>finished his career with The Red. Sox like how fitting is?

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 2>That Ron washington is the. Shortstop Louke clinton is one,

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Outfielder Trot nixon. Another Mooky. WILSON i could have gone

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 2>With Hack wilson, there But mookey is a little more

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 2>well known to our younger people. Today Craig munroe is

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:58.439
<v Speaker 2>the designated. Hitter and, Again, jeff this is Where i'm

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 2>veering to try to make a. Point instead of Having Walter,

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 2>JOHNSON i ever tell YOU i went To Walter Johnson High.

0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>School instead of Having Randy, johnson they are two of

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>the five greatest pitchers maybe of all. TIME i Picked

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Pierce johnson who's still. Active Why Jeb Pierce johnson to presidential?

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Names, okay and if you recognize and if you've heard

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>on the, show we named our daughter more or less

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:29.439
<v Speaker 1>after a. President president. McKinley McKinley kirkchen is her. Name

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>AND i always like the Name pierce because it's a, president,

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Right but unfortunately my wife dated A pierce in high,

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>school so we cannot will not be a boy Named

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:40.840
<v Speaker 1>pierce in The kirkchhen, family.

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay i'm not Picking Reggie jackson on this team

0:43:45.440 --> 0:43:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Because i'm. Pitching Picking Grant jackson as one of our. Pitchers,

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 2>again a double presidential, Name Reggie. Cleveland always loved. That

0:43:55.960 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Jermaine Van, Buren Brad, lincoln and this is our specialty.

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Guest he's not a president. Name but, uh there used

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 2>to be a little left hander who pitching the big

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>leagues in the eighties Named len White. House he's on the.

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Team i'm breaking. Tradition it's not a presidential, name but

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 2>his name Is Lenn. Whitehouse AM i allowed to put him?

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:19.759
<v Speaker 3>On you can put him.

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>On i'm just a little disappointed That Grover Cleveland alexander

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>did not make the.

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 3>List, Here, dad.

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 2>His last name Is. Alexander how many presidents are Named alexander?

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Zero, WELL i Mean Alexander hamilton Good, mention not a,

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 1>president but nonetheless a founding.

0:44:41.880 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Father Grover Cleveland. ALEXANDER i told YOU i Got Reggie

0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 2>cleveland on the. List what else do you? Want? Ah,

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>okay all, Right, LOOK i Know Grover Cleveland alexander is.

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 3>And grover what okay is What grover?

0:44:59.640 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Is?

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 3>What Grover cleveland is the? President it is versus the last.

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Name you went just with last. Names, Okay, look it's my.

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:12.080
<v Speaker 2>List if you have a problem with, it Just i'm.

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Sorry email me.

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Directly i'll get back to you in three to seven business.

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Days all, RIGHT i don't have a problem with, You,

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Dad i've never had a problem with.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 3>You you're the.

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>BEST i have to just end this, episode and you're

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:25.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna hate.

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 3>Me you're gonna hate, me But i'm gonna do it.

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Anyway you took care of my daughter this past weekend

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 1>AS i drove down To Kings, Mill virginia to celebrate

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>my best Friend Alex parker getting engaged to its, amazing

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>beautiful way better looking than him Fiance. Haley congratulations to

0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the two of. Them you spent twenty eight hours taking

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 1>care of my. Daughter you slept in a bed with

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>her because she was having trouble falling. Asleep for those

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>who don't, Know Tim kirkshin the, grandfather he's the best

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 1>grandfather you could ever ask.

0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 3>For you Know Tim kirkschen the, writer you Know Tim kirkhin.

0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Podcaster he's an amazing, grandfather an amazing, son a great,

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:04.239
<v Speaker 1>husband and a great.

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Dad so thank, You, jeff thank. You and the one

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 2>STORY i didn't tell you IS i told McKinley, HOPE i,

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Said daddy is coming home today and she said. Who

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 2>that's what she, Said come. On. No she was asking

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:22.880
<v Speaker 2>For bobby And daddy for most of the, weekend but

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 2>we got her.

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Through so all of fu, well thank you so much for,

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>listening and as, always thanks for being a partner of our.

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Family